Absolutely one of my favorite shows, ever - but they’re almost at the point of needing a Y2K episode. Losing two major characters, on top of everything else - is insurmountable. I’ve never been a Judd Hirsch fan, but it is surprising how well his stepped-up role has come off.
I love Jeff on Curb and his character is clearly missed on the show. It's tough to pivot losing an character like the "dad" on a sitcom from the 80's where a lot of the tropes they used were based on a "dad" character and his interactions. Regardless, the writers are doing their best with the current roster.
You can survive a cast change. Shelley Long leaving Cheers didn't hurt because Kirstie Alley stepped in and was great. Aunt V became a completely different person on the Fresh Prince and the show thrived even though the character change was a bit to get use to. Roseanne survived a Becky change. That 70s show lost Laurie and tried to change but it didn't work though the show continued to flourish without any Laurie. The original Laurie was great for the show though.
Why not just ‘don’t watch’? I find it so silly, when people hate on a show so much, they want to take it from everyone else. As if, everyone should adhere to YOUR tastes. I’m glad it went 10 seasons, as it will only help it stay alive in syndication. Don’t like it? Don’t watch it.
@@screwyootube1 I love how everybody says don’t watch how about this is a show that you like and you wanna see it have a nice ending and you want to see it not go stale it’s more complicated than don’t watch. Most people who say the show should’ve ended years ago are actual fans.
It's disappointing when a show you're a fan of turns crappy. You have a right, as a fan of that show, to air your frustrations. I can't do that as I was never a fan of the show. Just interested in why Garlin was let go because of being a fan of Curb Your Enthusiasm.
I can understand not 'being able to' talk about it due to the show still going and publicity and NDAs, etc.. But everyone (except whoever is in the wrong) benefits from knowing what happened. All I know is that this sitcom had an actor on it that made jokes people couldn't handle, so he got fired for it. So it sounds like he's in the right because people around him were too sensitive. Did he harass anybody? Did he touch anyone inappropriately? That's the narrative I've been given and led to believe. So if that's not the case, if that's not the truth, yes, it would be beneficial for the truth to be heard, or at least get the details from all sides. But, again, maybe that's just the business talking through her and everyone can speak freely after their corporate overlords no longer control them. This is a good start though, a nice revelation, that she is glad he was gone. Another piece of the puzzle emerges. Abuse and bad things will continue to happen because people keep quiet about it.
Everyone does not benefit from continuously talking about Jeff. As a crew member for the past 3 years on The Goldbergs, who handled Jeff's clothes, I can say first hand that there were so many incredible memories and amazing friendships made during the 10 years of filming this show. The continued focus on Jeff, and this topic going around in circles, takes away from that. And why would the victims want to come forward publicly just to be bullied even further by people on social media who were never even close to being on our set? He left precisely because people were not quiet about the abuse that was going on, so it thankfully did not continue to happen. This season has been such a happy experience, and that tone was set by Wendi's professionalism, class, and humor both on and off set.
Yeah we will never know what truly happened unless someone speaks up about it but until then I'm not taking sides until we here what really happened. Jeff seemed like he got along with everyone for a while based off behind the scenes stuff and I remember they were all on Family Feud and again it seemed like everyone got along but I guess at some point something went wrong. Who knows though. All I know is killing off Murray is what got this show got cancelled but they really should of ended the show when the real Adam left the series cause the show was never the same and the characters turned into caricatures of themselves. There was no more clips at the end and they stopped doing interviews with the real life people too. Even the real life Adam himself hasn't liked what the show has become like it's sad. Also I wonder how killing off Murray in the show effected the real Adam and his family especially since his father didn't die in real life until much later
@@larahall5910so, if you don’t mind answering, based on your apparent intimate proximity to this situation, would you say Jeff is not as good of a person that we, as fans, believe him to be? It’s hard to know morally what I should feel when I can’t confirm the truth for myself. I also know that the people who have experienced seemingly “bad behavior” might have a totally different definition of offensiveness than I do, so really there’s no way for me to know unless I was there, like you say. I suppose I just want to get an opinion from somebody behind the scenes who isn’t being guided by the media; somebody who may have a more objective view. But I understand not wanting to talk about it therefore I accept if you deny answering my question : )
Lies. No proof. Evidence shows that messiah story was stolen/reused from previous myths. No record of a Jesus Christ. Christians clumsily forged the name into accounts long after that purported time to try and make it look like that was an actual person with actual events. Even Christianity admits those were forgeries, yet still tells its followers to believe. But, please, keep on spreading this stuff, it just easily tells me who you really are. @SuperNostalgia.
@@4thdimensional_creepJeff just wrote a tell all book in his own words he said “allowed to be disrespectful and disparaging to on set bcz showrunners would turn a blind eye” and many other things so it was disrespectful and treated everyone on set very poorly. Which ultimately led to his departure
all the people talking as if they know the situation and it's that simple. a lot of situations like this are not cut and dry cases where you can get someone to nip it in the bud. it's ignorant and dismissive.
J-words always stick together. The only time one gets thrown under the bus is if they weren't loyal, or if one wants to quit a show and some publicity is needed, then they get "fired" like this guy and Roseanne, and then they go and live in massive luxury and the show gets more attention.
Lots and lots of cathartic venting here amongst the replies. And a fair bit of sniper practice too. I do agree though when Wendi says no one benefits from knowing what happened.
As far as the public knows, Garlin made jokes on set that made the cast feel uncomfortable. He may also have been too "familiar" with other cast members by giving people back rubs and such when they didn't want it. In response to the controversy Garlin basically said he's a comedian first and foremost, and that he didn't mean to hurt anyone. But that's all the public knows.
No one benefits about knowing what happened. Yeah, I say the same thing about a lot of me too stories. Ironically, this is all happening in real time and is current so people would benefit from knowing what happened unlike something that happened maybe 20 years ago that can’t be proven
In my opinion she sounds like she is trying to keep it quiet cuz he did nothing wrong. Like I get you having PTSD but if it ruins a man's career it needs to be know so that other don't hire him and he gets a chance to defend himself
The show lost it's charm a few seasons ago. And the term PTSD here? Really? Being tired of talking about a topic/situation that you had a hand in is not ptsd, you just don't want to talk about it. And "no one benefits from talking about it?" You just don't want to talk about it and how you ousted him. Not the same thing
She meant it as in there were things her and other cast members had to go through because of this man, there are things that happened that we do not know about and it had to be very serious in order for them to kill him off of the show.
@@beastiekat4562 no they hardly had to go through anything he just didn’t wanna be in the show anymore and he didn’t find it comfortable. You can see it inevitable in the scenes. He wasn’t given anything to do in the later seasons. Nine seasons is a long time for a show. He had his way of making jokes and they didn’t like it. Nobody ever had a problem with him on curb your enthusiasm and that’s been on since 2000.
I've had to work with folks who was abusive. Single mom at the time.Had to pay the bills..YOU have no idea how traumatic it can be. My boss was a complete creep. As soon as I found a great daycare with flex hours..I was out.
hearing Wendy say "finally someone is listening to us" makes it clear to me that Jeff had to go from that situation. I love Jeff and im happy he still had his role on Curb but Wendy clearly has a high bar and I accept her evaluation of that specific situation. still love Jeff, and unrelated to him getting booted from that show...The Goldbergs had already jumped the shark years before. After season 3~4 it had already worn out its welcome. after rehashing tired storylines it turned and made the characters parodies of themselves.
Funny how nobody on Curb has said anything negative about him. Sounds like the cast just couldn't handle someone who doesn't walk on eggshells in case he makes a microaggression
The knives come out, so fast, don't they?
Absolutely one of my favorite shows, ever - but they’re almost at the point of needing a Y2K episode. Losing two major characters, on top of everything else - is insurmountable. I’ve never been a Judd Hirsch fan, but it is surprising how well his stepped-up role has come off.
Paul Sorvino was excellent as pop pop but I guess he wasn't Jewish enough...
The show should’ve ended at season nine specially after they kicked off the creator of his own show on the writing team wtf.
No way, really? That's so sad 😢
No wonder why the endings are different
Hey Andy Cohen... Good interview.
lol
Wendi is so freaking funny as Bev🎉😂
He's the best character on the show. Without him, there is no show.
Exactly.
💯
I love Jeff on Curb and his character is clearly missed on the show. It's tough to pivot losing an character like the "dad" on a sitcom from the 80's where a lot of the tropes they used were based on a "dad" character and his interactions. Regardless, the writers are doing their best with the current roster.
You can survive a cast change. Shelley Long leaving Cheers didn't hurt because Kirstie Alley stepped in and was great. Aunt V became a completely different person on the Fresh Prince and the show thrived even though the character change was a bit to get use to. Roseanne survived a Becky change. That 70s show lost Laurie and tried to change but it didn't work though the show continued to flourish without any Laurie. The original Laurie was great for the show though.
Show should’ve ended two seasons ago or at least last season
I stopped watching after season 5
Why not just ‘don’t watch’?
I find it so silly, when people hate on a show so much, they want to take it from everyone else. As if, everyone should adhere to YOUR tastes.
I’m glad it went 10 seasons, as it will only help it stay alive in syndication.
Don’t like it? Don’t watch it.
@@screwyootube1 I love how everybody says don’t watch how about this is a show that you like and you wanna see it have a nice ending and you want to see it not go stale it’s more complicated than don’t watch. Most people who say the show should’ve ended years ago are actual fans.
It's disappointing when a show you're a fan of turns crappy. You have a right, as a fan of that show, to air your frustrations. I can't do that as I was never a fan of the show. Just interested in why Garlin was let go because of being a fan of Curb Your Enthusiasm.
I can understand not 'being able to' talk about it due to the show still going and publicity and NDAs, etc.. But everyone (except whoever is in the wrong) benefits from knowing what happened. All I know is that this sitcom had an actor on it that made jokes people couldn't handle, so he got fired for it. So it sounds like he's in the right because people around him were too sensitive. Did he harass anybody? Did he touch anyone inappropriately? That's the narrative I've been given and led to believe. So if that's not the case, if that's not the truth, yes, it would be beneficial for the truth to be heard, or at least get the details from all sides.
But, again, maybe that's just the business talking through her and everyone can speak freely after their corporate overlords no longer control them.
This is a good start though, a nice revelation, that she is glad he was gone. Another piece of the puzzle emerges.
Abuse and bad things will continue to happen because people keep quiet about it.
Everyone does not benefit from continuously talking about Jeff. As a crew member for the past 3 years on The Goldbergs, who handled Jeff's clothes, I can say first hand that there were so many incredible memories and amazing friendships made during the 10 years of filming this show. The continued focus on Jeff, and this topic going around in circles, takes away from that. And why would the victims want to come forward publicly just to be bullied even further by people on social media who were never even close to being on our set? He left precisely because people were not quiet about the abuse that was going on, so it thankfully did not continue to happen. This season has been such a happy experience, and that tone was set by Wendi's professionalism, class, and humor both on and off set.
Yeah we will never know what truly happened unless someone speaks up about it but until then I'm not taking sides until we here what really happened. Jeff seemed like he got along with everyone for a while based off behind the scenes stuff and I remember they were all on Family Feud and again it seemed like everyone got along but I guess at some point something went wrong. Who knows though. All I know is killing off Murray is what got this show got cancelled but they really should of ended the show when the real Adam left the series cause the show was never the same and the characters turned into caricatures of themselves. There was no more clips at the end and they stopped doing interviews with the real life people too. Even the real life Adam himself hasn't liked what the show has become like it's sad. Also I wonder how killing off Murray in the show effected the real Adam and his family especially since his father didn't die in real life until much later
@@larahall5910so, if you don’t mind answering, based on your apparent intimate proximity to this situation, would you say Jeff is not as good of a person that we, as fans, believe him to be? It’s hard to know morally what I should feel when I can’t confirm the truth for myself. I also know that the people who have experienced seemingly “bad behavior” might have a totally different definition of offensiveness than I do, so really there’s no way for me to know unless I was there, like you say.
I suppose I just want to get an opinion from somebody behind the scenes who isn’t being guided by the media; somebody who may have a more objective view. But I understand not wanting to talk about it therefore I accept if you deny answering my question : )
Lies. No proof. Evidence shows that messiah story was stolen/reused from previous myths. No record of a Jesus Christ. Christians clumsily forged the name into accounts long after that purported time to try and make it look like that was an actual person with actual events. Even Christianity admits those were forgeries, yet still tells its followers to believe.
But, please, keep on spreading this stuff, it just easily tells me who you really are. @SuperNostalgia.
@@4thdimensional_creepJeff just wrote a tell all book in his own words he said “allowed to be disrespectful and disparaging to on set bcz showrunners would turn a blind eye” and many other things so it was disrespectful and treated everyone on set very poorly. Which ultimately led to his departure
Jeff garlin made that show
all the people talking as if they know the situation and it's that simple. a lot of situations like this are not cut and dry cases where you can get someone to nip it in the bud. it's ignorant and dismissive.
Canceling that show is a long time coming.
Agreed
It was for kids mostly 😂
I would agree on that too. It was good in the earlier seasons but should've ended after the 6th or 7th season in my opinion.
The show shoulda ended after s6.
J-words always stick together. The only time one gets thrown under the bus is if they weren't loyal, or if one wants to quit a show and some publicity is needed, then they get "fired" like this guy and Roseanne, and then they go and live in massive luxury and the show gets more attention.
I have failed as a mother!!
Lots and lots of cathartic venting here amongst the replies. And a fair bit of sniper practice too. I do agree though when Wendi says no one benefits from knowing what happened.
Please spell her last name correctly.
He was the best part of the show. Her character is annoying. Toughen up. The show should've ended when they got him fired.
He got himself fired! No fault but his own. Now to get Andy Cohen fired would be awesome.
OH BULLSSH. Bev was the best. She played her perfect. Clearly you don't get the show.
Seeing Jeff Garlan in the tight undies was very disturbing
What did Garlin actually do to get kicked off the show? must have been egregiously bad. Makes a person wonder?
As far as the public knows, Garlin made jokes on set that made the cast feel uncomfortable. He may also have been too "familiar" with other cast members by giving people back rubs and such when they didn't want it. In response to the controversy Garlin basically said he's a comedian first and foremost, and that he didn't mean to hurt anyone. But that's all the public knows.
What Indian said.
Also it’s clear they don’t miss him (the actor). The show DESPERATELY misses the character.
And he was just doing it for a paycheck.
The first sign of Jeff Garlin being weird is him taking his pants off every time he came home. Especially in tighty whities. Who wanted to see that?😂
It's crazy when they take one of the pivotal characters and take them away and try to make more episodes without him. Just cancel the shit
@@orion7763it sounds like he crossed some boundaries with people
No one benefits about knowing what happened.
Yeah, I say the same thing about a lot of me too stories. Ironically, this is all happening in real time and is current so people would benefit from knowing what happened unlike something that happened maybe 20 years ago that can’t be proven
Hyde got 30 years for something that happen 20 years ago without actual physical evidence. Just words.
In my opinion she sounds like she is trying to keep it quiet cuz he did nothing wrong. Like I get you having PTSD but if it ruins a man's career it needs to be know so that other don't hire him and he gets a chance to defend himself
The show should have died along with Jeff's character, because it sucks without him.
the show did die
how old are each of you commenting?
Old enough to party.
@@MissLippy-fy6bj lol
The show lost it's charm a few seasons ago. And the term PTSD here? Really? Being tired of talking about a topic/situation that you had a hand in is not ptsd, you just don't want to talk about it. And "no one benefits from talking about it?" You just don't want to talk about it and how you ousted him. Not the same thing
She meant it as in there were things her and other cast members had to go through because of this man, there are things that happened that we do not know about and it had to be very serious in order for them to kill him off of the show.
@@beastiekat4562 no they hardly had to go through anything he just didn’t wanna be in the show anymore and he didn’t find it comfortable. You can see it inevitable in the scenes. He wasn’t given anything to do in the later seasons. Nine seasons is a long time for a show. He had his way of making jokes and they didn’t like it. Nobody ever had a problem with him on curb your enthusiasm and that’s been on since 2000.
What exactly did he do
I've had to work with folks who was abusive. Single mom at the time.Had to pay the bills..YOU have no idea how traumatic it can be. My boss was a complete creep. As soon as I found a great daycare with flex hours..I was out.
@@BigBadJerryRogershe made some jokes that most people nowadays would unfortunately find offensive
Glad the show was canceled only after one season of jeff being gone lol
There's no love lost here...
The show sucks now and the fact Wendi got Jeff fired says a lot about why. She sucks!
Garlin was the only good thing about The Goldbergs
Great show but can’t stand Andy Cohen! 🤢
Glad it ended without jeff it was boring
She had him canceled because she's not a funny or interesting person without supporting cast.
Did Jeff Garlin do something wrong??
He zigged when he should have zagged. Can't do that!
Cashing in to Hollywood feelings...get maturity lady and cast...for reals nobody needs to be BF's during work...duh
hearing Wendy say "finally someone is listening to us" makes it clear to me that Jeff had to go from that situation. I love Jeff and im happy he still had his role on Curb but Wendy clearly has a high bar and I accept her evaluation of that specific situation. still love Jeff, and unrelated to him getting booted from that show...The Goldbergs had already jumped the shark years before. After season 3~4 it had already worn out its welcome. after rehashing tired storylines it turned and made the characters parodies of themselves.
Funny how nobody on Curb has said anything negative about him. Sounds like the cast just couldn't handle someone who doesn't walk on eggshells in case he makes a microaggression
Jeff was perfect on curb because he wasn't required to be funny
He was funny on Curb.
What are you talking about he's hilarious on Curb.
She was the best character. Her timing fkr humour is outmatched on that show
show is trash without him. not worth watching now.
I agree 💯