I’m going down memory lane listening to this, I performed this for my senior recital as a piano major. When learning this piece my arms muscle got strong, that was 45 years ago.
@@blushhhhmusic Sorry for taking a bit long to answer your comment. I was trying to find my score of the piece which I couldn't find. To play the piece faster, I suggest slow practice as well as faster practice to secure the piece technically. I believe that it would be better to play it fast cleanly than to play a faster mess. As you might know, there are several tempo indications in the score, so I think personally that even though the title of the piece suggests that it be played wildly, there is a need to emphasize musical expression which goes contrary to supreme rapidity of tempo. I invite you to see the video of my senior recital on my channel in which I play the piece at the end. Good luck on your auditions!
The late great virtuoso Keith Emerson did a fantastic piano arrangement of this with Emerson Lake and Palmer. I think it was on their first album, but all their albums were terrific, especially 'Trilogy' , with incredible piano.
What I would have like to have heard is Keith doing this piece and Pictures at an Exhibition as piano solos in their original versions. Any recording out there?
I see so many comments that refer to the Emerson, Lake and Palmer version which was their first piece on their first album. I already loved Bartok's original version in 1971 and while visiting my friend he pulls out ELP's first record and puts it on the turn table. I objected having only known of the band from the annoyingly ubiquitous "Lucky Man" which I did not like at all. My friend puts on side one and I was both surprised and amazed that a rock band would open with an instrumental, and by Bartok, no less! I was an instant fan. Side two was also powerful with some pipe organ "The Three Fates" and later on "Tank", after an incredible drum solo, enter in multi-tracked Moog Modular Synthesizer! Only the very skilled Walter/Wendy Carlos could play one of those beasts. Holy crap, what a band! By the way, the European version I bought about 5 years later did credit Bartok on the record sleeve. And yes, I was a bit ticked off that Bartok was not credited on the American version, but Emerson had a good excuse, that it could hurt sales in America. Emerson (R.I.P.) changed my life because I changed from playing guitar to playing keyboards. My Dad had a Hammond B3 organ. Bartok blew my mind that same year when I heard his 4th String Quartet, my favorite movement is the last, Allegro Molto, that was really Prog Rock in the 1920's! Fripp of King Crimson was influenced by it.
@@hernanbusso1609 I think knife edge was lifted from something too but I'm not sure. Emerson, Lake and Powell did a version of mars bringer of war by Holst also.
Keith Emerson used classical pieces in Rock versions which educated and opened up young people's minds to classical composers (and helped these composer's record sales) such as Bartok's Allegro Barbaro (note all the comments below that point this out), Mussorgsky's "Pictures at an Exhibition", Aaron Copeland's "Hoedown" and "Fanfare for the Common Man", Ginastera's "Toccata", and "Jerusalem" (Unofficial Anthem of England) with words by William Blake is way more powerful and moving in ELP's version. Frank Zappa was also instrumental in educating young listeners through his interviews, most notably Stravinsky.
@@cadencooper1828 well its certainly progressive rock. Interestingly its their first song off their first album so if listeners put on this album prior to hearing lucky man (which was released as a single and received extensive airplay) this is the first sounds they would have heard
We are playing a band transcribed version of this song for concert season... I expected it to sound way different on a piano but it really sounds very similar, I'm very surprised
Toute la "folie" du Sacre du Printemps ( Stravinsky ) résumée en 2'40" ! Bartok , Stravinsky ...les deux faces d' une même médaille ... désormais plus rien ne sera comme avant ...
이 곡의 리듬은 8분음표의 역동적 진행이 특징이고 쉼없이 계속되는 8분음표의 진행은 강한 다이나믹과 불협화적 화성과 함께 힘을 발산한다. 화성적인 측면에서 이 곡은 자유로운 진행을 보인다. 피아노가 화음을 연주할 ㄷ때 어떤 음을 연주하는가에는 관심을 갖지않는다 . 피아노가 타악기처럼 취급 되면서 새로운 피아노 양식을 보인다.
At 2:19 it sounds like he's playing the notes an octave lower than they should be played. But I don't blame him. I can't even play those notes in tempo at a slow speed...
That’s the point. It hits the correct notes… just an octave lower. In this type of music, it takes what you except from it and twists it. The satisfaction of the notes being played is not lost but the technicality increases. Giving it a more technically refined feel so it doesn’t get boring.
I thought that this was very well done - this piece is a BEAST when done at full tempo, and a few slips on a live recording honestly make it seem like an actual human is playing it. The only thing that I disliked was near the end - there were a few octave leaps in the right hand that didn't happen. Otherwise - lovely.
the marching band I am in used this in the show we did this year. north Augusta Jacket regiment suspicious minds. the show used a piece of Mozart, Elvis's suspicious minds, and allegro barbaro in one of the biggest bands nation wide
Arghh! I have to play this in 3 weeks! This is really good! The only thing I would say is to watch the poco rit sections... apparently that's supposed to be a joke, and is meant to be humorous... but omg amazinggg!
Try some heat gel? Is your posture correct? You may need a tight bandage around it. I'm not a doctor/physio however, best to see one if you can. Best of luck!!!
There were tenuto marks over those quarter notes in the beginning! The pianist totally ignored a lot of markings like those throughout his intepretation, but otherwise good.
I neither liked nor understood classical music until I was introduced to King Crimson and ELP. Not Yes or Genesis but KC and ELP - maybe because they were more blatant in their theft. Lol
@@blukimbo3450 well, early live recordings (1969 Live At The Marquee) had them playing "Nola" by Felix Arndt and "Etude no.7" by Matteo Carcassi. They also played Mars (during live) and made their own studio version with it (though with a few alterations). some live shows from the '72-'74 lineup had at least one improv they would play that are influenced by "Easter European classical music" and "European Free Improvisation" and if I recall, the heavy metal riff in Larks' Tongues Part One originated from one of Béla Bartók's String Quartet pieces... to which Robert Fripp was also influenced by his works as well
For those of you posting negative comments - if you could play it better, please, post a video so we can see. Even if this person made some mistakes, they had the courage to post it on youtube. Did you? I didn't think so.
A lot of the enharmonics don’t make sense to me. Why use and f double sharp when it would make more sense with a g? Also, a lot of the time a b sharp was written, it would’ve made more sense as a c. I guess Béla Bartók just does strange things like that. Also, the piece was wonderfully played.
If you look at the measures where there is f double sharp, in the other hand there is usually a g sharp, same with c double sharp and d sharp. This way you don't mix up the accidentals. Believe it or not, there is a method to the madness!
So true! I should have noticed that. I guess the reason it appeared sort of strange to me at first is because the first version of this piece I ever knew of was Tom Wallace’s arrangement of it. Wallace’s arrangement is in D minor while the original is in F# minor. What are B-sharps, E-sharps and F-double-sharps here would be G-sharps, C-sharps, and D-sharps, respectively, in Wllace’s arrangement. But instead, Wallace wrote them as A-flats, D-flats, and E-flats. A-flats, D-flats and E-flats made perfect sense to me, since I was only aware of the melody (I play clarinet). I saw Bartók’s original after Wallace’s arrangement. I did not focus on the bass part that much but more on the melody. So I was confused by the B-sharps, E-sharps, and F-double-sharps because I expected C-naturals, F-naturals, and G-naturals. I did not even consider the bass part.
Lmao, wait ‘til you discover “panic chords”. Someday you’ll come to find that complicated notes/chords that go together are largely not played in classical, but in in other genres. This Day Is Black by Man Must Die is a great example. Us Metalheads call it Technical-Melodic-Death Metal. Give it a listen. You might like it.
For all of you who complain about a wrong note here and there. "Murray Perahia's Bronx tones chastising all those who claim to hear errors in Horowitz's TH-cam performance of the Ballade. "There are all these idiots writing in, 'Oh there are so many mistakes.' I really don't hear them … As far as I'm concerned it's a perfect performance. I don't hear those wrong notes that everybody hears … All these nuts, you know, they write in to TH-cam, they say, 'I can play better than that.' So I say, 'Well, post it then, let's hear it.'""
I played it at 0.5 speed and I could hear only one "ping" between the G on the other bar and the A on that bar. Try slowing it down to 0.5 and telling me what you hear as well.
I despise this way of thinking. Just because I'm not able to do better, I am not banned from criticizing someone. I can't cook at all, but if someone serves me horseshit, I can say that I dislike the taste. Food critiques don't have to be master chefs. Movie reviewers don't have to be world famous directors. Music critiques don't have to be top of the food chain musicians.
Food critiques suck too. It's one thing to dislike a certain food. It's another to be snobby about it. There's no such comparison with music critics. If you can't play the piece perfectly, but you just plain don't care for the piece, fine. If you want to get all arrogant snobby and pick apart some performance, and you can't play it 100% perfect, shut the ruddy hex up. Put up or shut up. Can't handle getting told off? Don't be a freaking music critic.
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Word on the street is that some critics called Bartók's music "barbaric". So he then came out with this and named it as such.
so it’s a diss track
I’m going down memory lane listening to this, I performed this for my senior recital as a piano major. When learning this piece my arms muscle got strong, that was 45 years ago.
Me too, in 1987.
@@danielgol5907 I’m doing this piece for my college auditions, any tips for picking up the speed?
@@blushhhhmusic Sorry for taking a bit long to answer your comment. I was trying to find my score of the piece which I couldn't find. To play the piece faster, I suggest slow practice as well as faster practice to secure the piece technically. I believe that it would be better to play it fast cleanly than to play a faster mess. As you might know, there are several tempo indications in the score, so I think personally that even though the title of the piece suggests that it be played wildly, there is a need to emphasize musical expression which goes contrary to supreme rapidity of tempo. I invite you to see the video of my senior recital on my channel in which I play the piece at the end. Good luck on your auditions!
It's easy to see why Keith Emerson pick this particular song in its sheer aggressiveness it fits perfectly for ELP😮
Anyone from music class?
Maj Seketin yeah
Yeah. I have to make a choreografy to this
@@playswith_squirrels Well, Good Luck :')
ameb certificate of performance........
No, ELP.
Heavier than some metal bands out there today.
such as ELP.....
The late great virtuoso Keith Emerson did a fantastic piano arrangement of this with Emerson Lake and Palmer. I think it was on their first album, but all their albums were terrific, especially 'Trilogy' , with incredible piano.
First song, first album, the eponymous Emerson, Lake, and Palmer.
th-cam.com/video/JwmSS_64IN4/w-d-xo.html
@@danielmocsny5066 That's an amazing coincidence haha
What I would have like to have heard is Keith doing this piece and Pictures at an Exhibition as piano solos in their original versions. Any recording out there?
I see so many comments that refer to the Emerson, Lake and Palmer version which was their first piece on their first album. I already loved Bartok's original version in 1971 and while visiting my friend he pulls out ELP's first record and puts it on the turn table. I objected having only known of the band from the annoyingly ubiquitous "Lucky Man" which I did not like at all. My friend puts on side one and I was both surprised and amazed that a rock band would open with an instrumental, and by Bartok, no less! I was an instant fan. Side two was also powerful with some pipe organ "The Three Fates" and later on "Tank", after an incredible drum solo, enter in multi-tracked Moog Modular Synthesizer! Only the very skilled Walter/Wendy Carlos could play one of those beasts. Holy crap, what a band! By the way, the European version I bought about 5 years later did credit Bartok on the record sleeve. And yes, I was a bit ticked off that Bartok was not credited on the American version, but Emerson had a good excuse, that it could hurt sales in America. Emerson (R.I.P.) changed my life because I changed from playing guitar to playing keyboards. My Dad had a Hammond B3 organ. Bartok blew my mind that same year when I heard his 4th String Quartet, my favorite movement is the last, Allegro Molto, that was really Prog Rock in the 1920's! Fripp of King Crimson was influenced by it.
Emerson Lake and Palmer: The Barbarian. It was the first song on their first album.
YES
Yes... and they forget to mention the name of the componist on the first publication.
@@gyarmatizmus how convenient 💀
@@gyarmatizmus this kind of stuff was common practice in the music industry in those times
@@antocool100 Practice recently. Beyonce also did not mention the name of the Hungarian singer Mónika Miczura in the song "Drunk in Love".
Bartok is beyond description , and immeasurable and unfathomable
From
Tokyo of the Land of the Rising Sun 🇯🇵
Just give credit where credit is due. ELP definitely rocked the Bartok!
ELP as in Emerson lake and palmer??? which albuns and songs do they play bartók?
@@barbiefairytopia2803 it’d be The Barbarian off their self titled album!
@@barbiefairytopia2803 They only adapted this piece from Bartok, but they made adaptations of other composers like Copland, Ginastera, etc.
Yep. I'm here after seeing it mentioned on the ELP wikipedia page.
@@hernanbusso1609 I think knife edge was lifted from something too but I'm not sure. Emerson, Lake and Powell did a version of mars bringer of war by Holst also.
Now that I've played Alkan's Allegro Barbaro, I need to learn Bartok's!!
OrangeSodaKing You can play Alkan's allegro barbaro? you have some real skill my friend.
Bartok was inspired by Alkan?
Bartok's seems easier than Alkan's.
Emerson, Lake & Palmer brought me here.
Me too !
Same
Absolutely
Well,it has only taken me 50 years to hear the inspiration for ELP's track 😏. Wonderful,and wonderful too with bass and drums 👍
Keith Emerson used classical pieces in Rock versions which educated and opened up young people's minds to classical composers (and helped these composer's record sales) such as Bartok's Allegro Barbaro (note all the comments below that point this out), Mussorgsky's "Pictures at an Exhibition", Aaron Copeland's "Hoedown" and "Fanfare for the Common Man", Ginastera's "Toccata", and "Jerusalem" (Unofficial Anthem of England) with words by William Blake is way more powerful and moving in ELP's version. Frank Zappa was also instrumental in educating young listeners through his interviews, most notably Stravinsky.
Emerson Lake & Palmer did a rock rendition of this in the 70s simply titled "The Barbarian"
Can you really call it rock?
@@cadencooper1828 well its certainly progressive rock. Interestingly its their first song off their first album so if listeners put on this album prior to hearing lucky man (which was released as a single and received extensive airplay) this is the first sounds they would have heard
@@cadencooper1828 It's a fusion of rock, jazz and classical. It's hard to define.
I'm learing this peice..its so awesome :)
I'm learning this piece now and it's sooooooo hard... But I like the piece and I think it is developing my technical ability
KE knew Bartok. He studied him!
So beautiful !
716 - bellissima canzone - ciao da VALERIO !!!!!!!!! ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
건반 하나하나를 타악기
적으로 여기며
작곡된 기발한 바르톡만의
독특한 음악언어
그러나 그의 음악은 현대적
이면서도 결코 커다란
전통안에 있씁니다
ah yes
performing this on the 14th. what a great piece
Brâncuși brought me here ❤
We are playing a band transcribed version of this song for concert season... I expected it to sound way different on a piano but it really sounds very similar, I'm very surprised
Toute la "folie" du Sacre du Printemps ( Stravinsky ) résumée en 2'40" ! Bartok , Stravinsky ...les deux faces d' une même médaille ... désormais plus rien ne sera comme avant ...
Magnifique commentaire.
Mais non! The essence of Stravinksky's piece are constant change of metrics as well as polyrhyhms, which is not the case with Bartok's piece
There’s a recording of Bartok playing this here on uTube.
he plays it fast, but not wildly.
This, comming from the nicest man.
이 곡의 리듬은 8분음표의 역동적 진행이 특징이고 쉼없이 계속되는 8분음표의 진행은 강한 다이나믹과 불협화적 화성과 함께 힘을 발산한다. 화성적인 측면에서 이 곡은 자유로운 진행을 보인다. 피아노가 화음을 연주할 ㄷ때 어떤 음을 연주하는가에는 관심을 갖지않는다 . 피아노가 타악기처럼 취급 되면서 새로운 피아노 양식을 보인다.
At 2:19 it sounds like he's playing the notes an octave lower than they should be played.
But I don't blame him. I can't even play those notes in tempo at a slow speed...
No he plays it correct
:)
That’s the point. It hits the correct notes… just an octave lower. In this type of music, it takes what you except from it and twists it. The satisfaction of the notes being played is not lost but the technicality increases. Giving it a more technically refined feel so it doesn’t get boring.
0:08
I thought that this was very well done - this piece is a BEAST when done at full tempo, and a few slips on a live recording honestly make it seem like an actual human is playing it. The only thing that I disliked was near the end - there were a few octave leaps in the right hand that didn't happen. Otherwise - lovely.
Great performance!
Yay! Good for you. :)
too good
Good Job!
Imma try to learn this
the marching band I am in used this in the show we did this year. north Augusta Jacket regiment suspicious minds. the show used a piece of Mozart, Elvis's suspicious minds, and allegro barbaro in one of the biggest bands nation wide
yes Maj dis song iz realy goodddd
Mr Friedhelm Flamme is a very nice guy
Can anyone give me a some reaction paper from this work
ELP's Barbarian is a copy of this.... But I still love ELP! :)
cover or arrange, not copy
Divine musique !
Pas étonnant que Emerson Lake and Palmer l”aient utilisée dans leurs morceau avec entre autre des morceaux de Janacek
Beau Soir : Retrouvaille Magnifique ! ! !
Me gusta.
Was going to make an ELP comment. But, alas, far too late. Keith did a great job of arranging this. I'll say that much.
Arghh! I have to play this in 3 weeks! This is really good! The only thing I would say is to watch the poco rit sections... apparently that's supposed to be a joke, and is meant to be humorous... but omg amazinggg!
RIP Keith Emerson brought me here
Shout out kay Miss. Napaka husay na guro, kung makapag bigay ng activity akala mo armalite. Pero partida, hindi manlang magturo
I identified some excerpts from Croatian Rhapsody, by Maksim Mrvica.
Nice
I tried this, and now I think I've sprained my pinky. Help! I have a piano exam in two weeks, too.
Try some heat gel? Is your posture correct? You may need a tight bandage around it. I'm not a doctor/physio however, best to see one if you can. Best of luck!!!
Hehe I know. It's a killer.
Hello arat online class:>
Sana ol magaling sa mapeh
Music class in Germany hello there
Haha Ich finde deine Kommentare immer unter Videos die wir anschauen müssen
Is Bartok's Allegro Barbaro as hard as Prokofiev's Suggestion Diabolique??
I think the Prokofiev is harder.
@@Chachboon1
Why??
BBC radio 3? what is that?
Hatalmas!!!! Bartók Béla!!!!!!!!!! In Hungarian author!!!!!!!!!
Cool
There were tenuto marks over those quarter notes in the beginning! The pianist totally ignored a lot of markings like those throughout his intepretation, but otherwise good.
Who cares?
I had to learn this for piano lessons and this is supposed to be medium level
Medium level??? 😮😮😮 impossible that only medium. It is very hard to learn to play it if you don't have the perfect pitch in my opinion
this one or the alkan one, can't choose lol
Awesome piece. I would like the perfomance to be less staccato /leggiero, heavier.
Yea
I neither liked nor understood classical music until I was introduced to King Crimson and ELP. Not Yes or Genesis but KC and ELP - maybe because they were more blatant in their theft. Lol
I understand ELP, but what have King Crimson stolen from any classical music?
@@blukimbo3450 well, early live recordings (1969 Live At The Marquee) had them playing "Nola" by Felix Arndt and "Etude no.7" by Matteo Carcassi. They also played Mars (during live) and made their own studio version with it (though with a few alterations).
some live shows from the '72-'74 lineup had at least one improv they would play that are influenced by "Easter European classical music" and "European Free Improvisation"
and if I recall, the heavy metal riff in Larks' Tongues Part One originated from one of Béla Bartók's String Quartet pieces... to which Robert Fripp was also influenced by his works as well
+Paulsego brought me here
+leapingmutton Wow, what a individual situation!
Lehyithkeath Yirayth excuse me did you just call me a matnee
THE TWATS TACO_MUNCHER_666 Yes, because I could watch you during the entire afternoon.
***** *SNORT*
a year later, he brought me here too!
1:20 1:40
Anyone from Paul's Highedology stream?
playing this on mello
Nodame cantabile brought me here
me too
ELP
Barbaro esad bum barbarians is coming
BARBAROOOOOO BARBARRR CLASH OF CLANSTAKİ BARBARLAR H.R WELLS BAO BAO BARBARO
amk
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Arrigo Barnabé
0:09
1:13
For those of you posting negative comments - if you could play it better, please, post a video so we can see. Even if this person made some mistakes, they had the courage to post it on youtube. Did you? I didn't think so.
Poulencはこの作品を手本にした
0:10
바르톡,
kinana atuy nga module.
Anyone grade 10? Ph
Ako hahaha
Penge nmn reaction paper dto pakopya ako hehe
@@EdrianS.I halaaaa hahahhahahahaha
Ako pre
Suena como si lo estuviera estudiando en casa! :(
sounds a bit like Alkan's Allegro Barbaro :P .
A lot of the enharmonics don’t make sense to me. Why use and f double sharp when it would make more sense with a g? Also, a lot of the time a b sharp was written, it would’ve made more sense as a c. I guess Béla Bartók just does strange things like that. Also, the piece was wonderfully played.
If you look at the measures where there is f double sharp, in the other hand there is usually a g sharp, same with c double sharp and d sharp. This way you don't mix up the accidentals. Believe it or not, there is a method to the madness!
So true! I should have noticed that. I guess the reason it appeared sort of strange to me at first is because the first version of this piece I ever knew of was Tom Wallace’s arrangement of it. Wallace’s arrangement is in D minor while the original is in F# minor. What are B-sharps, E-sharps and F-double-sharps here would be G-sharps, C-sharps, and D-sharps, respectively, in Wllace’s arrangement. But instead, Wallace wrote them as A-flats, D-flats, and E-flats. A-flats, D-flats and E-flats made perfect sense to me, since I was only aware of the melody (I play clarinet). I saw Bartók’s original after Wallace’s arrangement. I did not focus on the bass part that much but more on the melody. So I was confused by the B-sharps, E-sharps, and F-double-sharps because I expected C-naturals, F-naturals, and G-naturals. I did not even consider the bass part.
Frau Urban
0:09
What a disgusting song?...I love it.
Lmao, wait ‘til you discover “panic chords”.
Someday you’ll come to find that complicated notes/chords that go together are largely not played in classical, but in in other genres.
This Day Is Black by Man Must Die is a great example. Us Metalheads call it Technical-Melodic-Death Metal. Give it a listen. You might like it.
Its so similar to 3rd prokofiev sarcasm
Imma go ahead and not believe the second part.But good job?
0:27 little mistake there
That wasn't a mistake, this piece was from an era when music would have random accented beats like that
+Alexis Turbs Listen carefully. He plays D F Fx D instead of D E Fx E
For all of you who complain about a wrong note here and there. "Murray Perahia's Bronx tones chastising all those who claim to hear errors in Horowitz's TH-cam performance of the Ballade. "There are all these idiots writing in, 'Oh there are so many mistakes.' I really don't hear them … As far as I'm concerned it's a perfect performance. I don't hear those wrong notes that everybody hears … All these nuts, you know, they write in to TH-cam, they say, 'I can play better than that.' So I say, 'Well, post it then, let's hear it.'""
D:
this song sounds like the barbarian from emerson, lake and palmer
Sergio Cordero that's because Keith Emerson was inspired by this piece to make The Barbarian .
It was a little more than "inspiration." ELP basically lifted the piece from Bartok--and got sued for copyright infringement.
2:06 Why do you play the notes in the acciaccaturas D-F-A not simultaneously but instead as an arpeggio? This sounds very computer-like...
I played it at 0.5 speed and I could hear only one "ping" between the G on the other bar and the A on that bar. Try slowing it down to 0.5 and telling me what you hear as well.
Anyone else hear the kid talking in the background? (at 2:06)
HOZALNUKESQUE
시벌 내일 수행이야
annoying background talking
baka apec to
ampogi mo naman 2ll. emir
yikes 2ll
Nice feel, but not enough tempo fluctnation in certain places and too many wrong notes for it to really be called a great performance.
I think this pianist hasn't read the full score...forgot the articulation...
Paulsego as well
I despise this way of thinking. Just because I'm not able to do better, I am not banned from criticizing someone. I can't cook at all, but if someone serves me horseshit, I can say that I dislike the taste. Food critiques don't have to be master chefs. Movie reviewers don't have to be world famous directors. Music critiques don't have to be top of the food chain musicians.
Food critiques suck too. It's one thing to dislike a certain food. It's another to be snobby about it. There's no such comparison with music critics. If you can't play the piece perfectly, but you just plain don't care for the piece, fine. If you want to get all arrogant snobby and pick apart some performance, and you can't play it 100% perfect, shut the ruddy hex up. Put up or shut up. Can't handle getting told off? Don't be a freaking music critic.
...no commercial potential.?...