Bela Bartok - String Quartet no 4

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  • I. Allegro [0:00]
    II. Prestissimo, con sordino [6:02]
    III. Non troppo lento [8:50]
    IV. Allegretto pizzicato [14:15]
    V. Allegro molto [16:54]

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  • @watsonwrote
    @watsonwrote 4 ปีที่แล้ว +380

    This piece feels like a 20 minute panic attack and I love it

  • @RiceStranger
    @RiceStranger ปีที่แล้ว +36

    So my father heard me listening to Shostakovich and recommended listening to Bartok's strings. I think I found a gold mine to check

    • @vojkofau
      @vojkofau 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      are ya winning son?

    • @DyleriousT
      @DyleriousT 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      As an enjoyer of both, i can see why

    • @robertlewis6797
      @robertlewis6797 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Yeah I immediately thought of Shostakovich when listening to this piece

  • @a.a.dehulster7567
    @a.a.dehulster7567 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Incredible that the human mind can invent such complex strange but beautifull music. Even his most simple melodies in Mikrokosmos are jewels. Bartok must have been a happy man gifted with such geniality…

  • @a.s.vanhoose1545
    @a.s.vanhoose1545 2 ปีที่แล้ว +226

    “Trust me, I’m not an alien” -Bartok 1928

    • @sirpixel7945
      @sirpixel7945 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      "That sounds like something an alien would say!" -Guy Speaking To Bartók 1928

    • @yu-hengwang8338
      @yu-hengwang8338 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      LMAO this is the comment I was looking for 😂

    • @LautMalereiLyrik
      @LautMalereiLyrik 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yeahh ....i´m just a Zombie.

    • @dubravkanovak3244
      @dubravkanovak3244 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Frank Zappa was fan .!

  • @edgunther8136
    @edgunther8136 4 ปีที่แล้ว +316

    9:56 is the lick

    • @wolfsilver6304
      @wolfsilver6304 4 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      NO WAY HOW DID YOU EVEN NOTICE THIS?!?

    • @GeodesicBruh
      @GeodesicBruh 4 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      OH FUCK

    • @reginaldmolethrasher437
      @reginaldmolethrasher437 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      What does this mean - "This is the luck"?

    • @seek__on
      @seek__on 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@reginaldmolethrasher437 look up "the lick." it's a meme originating from jazz music, from Adam Neely's youtube channel

    • @b.walter6646
      @b.walter6646 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @NinjaSnail1080 But not before Cam Neely.

  • @williamtaylor9440
    @williamtaylor9440 3 ปีที่แล้ว +113

    One of those rare pieces that feels absolutely perfect, in my opinion.

    • @Iumine
      @Iumine ปีที่แล้ว

      ginastera string quartet no 2

  • @sevenlayer8780
    @sevenlayer8780 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    One of the towering achievements of Western art. Forget for a moment that it contains some of the most expertly and artfully constructed feats of motivic development and thematic organization; if your pulse doesn't quicken in the last movement, you're not alive. Like, literally, you're probably dead. This performance is utterly perfect.

  • @ADumbMidget
    @ADumbMidget หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Is it modern enough?-Bartók to one of his colleagues after fearing he wasn’t modern enough

  • @njofraii2003
    @njofraii2003 4 ปีที่แล้ว +165

    The fifth movement is some of the most adrenaline pumping music I've ever heard.

    • @moshebarnoach3070
      @moshebarnoach3070 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Here is something that may have been inspired by this Bartok piece... th-cam.com/video/jX0caf1HvNs/w-d-xo.html

    • @weirdbeard2244
      @weirdbeard2244 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      I think he wrote the opening to it shortly after discovering that his car had been stolen.

    • @ahhhbalalalallaalalalla
      @ahhhbalalalallaalalalla 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sounds like a gorilla chasing something

    • @MrMusicker
      @MrMusicker 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Will never forget the first time I heard it live (Chilingirian Quartet, back in the 1970s)! Mind-blowing, and still fabulous to hear almost half a century later.

    • @Ana-ut8oe
      @Ana-ut8oe 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      that used to be my alarm sound for quite some time lol

  • @BlindObedienceBrutal
    @BlindObedienceBrutal 2 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    An excellent performance, with an almost perfect sound for Bartók: big, crisp, confident, no-nonsense. The end of the first movement still gives me shivers. It’s been over 90 years since this piece was written, and 40 since I first heard it. I was a teenager. I felt suddenly that I knew what music really could be. Exciting times.

    • @yukas1ngas
      @yukas1ngas ปีที่แล้ว

      Hm. IDK. For me it sounds a bit softer than should be

  • @sssnacksss
    @sssnacksss ปีที่แล้ว +23

    all time great quartet here. very listenable yet strange and reveals new things years later w/repeat listens.

  • @iggyseffects
    @iggyseffects ปีที่แล้ว +48

    I'm not the biggest fan of this harmony yet, but parts of this piece are truly orchestral sounding. Bartok's ability to draw out textures here is incredible.
    Edit: The 4th movement is currently one of my favorite works for string quartet. It's so edgy with its rhythms and harmony, it's hypnotic in a way.

  • @sylvainpenard9354
    @sylvainpenard9354 2 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    00:00 : Allegro - forme sonate
    06:02 : Prestissimo con sordino - Scherzo
    06:52 : Passage faisant penser au Sacre du Printemps de Stravinski
    08:50 : Non troppo lento - forme rhapsodique
    14:15 : Allegretto pizzicato - Scherzo
    14:22 : gamme Bartok
    14:57 : Pizz Bartok
    16:54 : Allegro molto - forme sonate

  • @slateflash
    @slateflash 2 ปีที่แล้ว +48

    I hate myself for saying this but... if you play the last movement at 1.5x speed you can really appreciate the folk rhythms and they're very similar to his later Mikrokosmos pieces (also similar to certain kinds of prog rock if you like that comparison)

  • @BlindObedienceBrutal
    @BlindObedienceBrutal 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    I think that 12:03 to 12:14 has a truly spectacular, stangely unforgettable modulation, if we can even call it that.

  • @albertol.4048
    @albertol.4048 4 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    The 3rd movement is so beautiful

  • @justinrubin2533
    @justinrubin2533 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    So great! I've loved these quartets since my teens (3rd is still my favorite).

    • @richtrophicherbs
      @richtrophicherbs ปีที่แล้ว +1

      me too!

    • @Berliozboy
      @Berliozboy ปีที่แล้ว +2

      third was the first too grab me too. As a young person just getting to know classical music, it totally baffled me. Actually sounded random to me at the town and totally chaotic...but something kept drawing me back, and I'm glad it did cause its so rewarding. Been listening to it for 20 years

    • @richtrophicherbs
      @richtrophicherbs ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Berliozboy if I had a favourite it would be the third. The first is not quite up to the standard of the others but not far behind. My mother said they sounded like a bunch of beginners who had no idea what they were doing. She unfortunately never grew out of this view.

    • @Berliozboy
      @Berliozboy ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@richtrophicherbs Yes, I actually love the first one quite a bit. There's a moment towards the end of the first movement that is one of my favorite moments in all of the quartets. 3, 4, and 5 are the ones I listen to most, but all 6 are incredible

  • @princianorvz
    @princianorvz ปีที่แล้ว +6

    16:55 My head really swings left and right because of that chord!!!! Genie belly dance music!!!

  • @ThaSchwab
    @ThaSchwab ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I don't know have much knowledge of specific recordings of string quartets, nor do I like to rank any classical recordings as being the "best ever"...but hearing this...it *has* to be considered one of the best ever, right? Surely of a 20th-century piece. I mean, the playing, technically at least, is ridiculous.

  • @orb3796
    @orb3796 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    The fifth movement is absolutely to my tastes holy fuck

  • @TeddyOn
    @TeddyOn 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Wow! I'm such Impressed with this masterpiece!

  • @paolovallejo5500
    @paolovallejo5500 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The Allegretto pizzicato is very pleasing

  • @petarlazarevic2521
    @petarlazarevic2521 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    ONE OF MOST INTENSE PIECES I HAVE EVER HEARD. SORRY FOR BIG LETTERS MY BROTHER ACCIDENTALY LIFT THEM AND I DONT KNOW HOT TO PUT THEM DOWN.

    • @kannabedo
      @kannabedo 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      bro was way too hyped😭

  • @stulewis6651
    @stulewis6651 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Videos like this are a great study aid. Incidentally, the pizzicato movement was used with great dramatic effect in Woody Allen's "Melinda and Melinda."

    • @a.s.vanhoose1545
      @a.s.vanhoose1545 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Study aid? I would break my pen on the paper every three minutes 😂

    • @litigatedparadox8946
      @litigatedparadox8946 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@a.s.vanhoose1545 I know this is a somewhat older comment but I think they mean “study aid” as in studying the music itself, how the different parts work, the chords they outline, stuff like that.

  • @gnothyself
    @gnothyself 4 ปีที่แล้ว +56

    Along with Liszt, considered one of Hungary's greatest composers, 1928
    Modernistic, atonal, chromatic, makes use of unconventional playing methods (string slapping, glissando, sempre pizz), complex structures from simple folkloric melodies

    • @michalhoransky1214
      @michalhoransky1214 4 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      He protecc
      He attacc
      But most importantly
      He bulgarian-rhytmically dancc

    • @slateflash
      @slateflash 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      This isn't atonal

    • @gnothyself
      @gnothyself 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@slateflash Fair enough. I remember when I was writing these comments (on like 40 different pieces across several centuries), I was just spitballing and typing them up very quickly because I had an exam I was studying for.
      I realized I wasn't being 100% accurate. Just needed to make notes for my personal use.

    • @samuelmincarelli5051
      @samuelmincarelli5051 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Bartok is twice the composer Liszt could ever be.

    • @zacharybell9925
      @zacharybell9925 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Samuel Mincarelli Why

  • @willfrost8580
    @willfrost8580 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    lmao the lick in the cello part at 9:50 (rehearsal mark 15)

  • @davidfranklin272
    @davidfranklin272 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Absolutely excellent complex music. Very good clear performance.

  • @szwag1er
    @szwag1er 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I love Bartok's string quartets above all his music, and the 4th is my absolute favourite.

  • @oliverdanver7141
    @oliverdanver7141 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    16:15 oh my this is so wow amazing it's like I'm in the video game😱

  • @axlh.1827
    @axlh.1827 4 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    17:04 this is literally heavy metal before heavy metal... genius

    • @timothybrittain4161
      @timothybrittain4161 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      This is so far beyond anything "heavy metal" bands could conceive of (let a lone play) that the comparison is silly. It's just your not understanding what's going on that makes you think of a pop mode.

    • @axlh.1827
      @axlh.1827 4 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      Timothy Brittain classic. You’re probably another person who thinks metal is just “noise”. Progressive metal, neoclassical metal, tech-death are among some of the most musically complex genres ever, and are on the same level as classical music and jazz, only a musician would know

    • @drakem4816
      @drakem4816 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Axl H. Sorry man, I’m a musician too. I used to love metal, but this is harmonically much more complex then 99% of metal music. The similarity exists rhythmically, but metal doesn’t come close to use dense voicings and harmony like this.

    • @axlh.1827
      @axlh.1827 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Drake M I can agree with that, orchestra and pianos can do more voices at once

    • @raulperez2308
      @raulperez2308 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@timothybrittain4161 i mean the complexity aspect of this i will say there's barely any musician in popular music able to make such music, but if you really think metal players can't play this you really underestimate a huge chunk of them. specially when a lot of classically trained musicians love the style

  • @conw_y
    @conw_y ปีที่แล้ว +3

    3:15 Surely inspired Bernard Hermann!

  • @superpizza8515
    @superpizza8515 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    La mejor pieza musical que he disfrutado sin lugar a duda

  • @NationalRise574
    @NationalRise574 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    16:54
    I get 1800’s chasing music vibes from this

  • @RedFighterGT
    @RedFighterGT 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    16:55 sounds like a video game like final fantasy or pokemon when there's an enemy

  • @troensspring2650
    @troensspring2650 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    badass...

  • @jnnfrsptrs
    @jnnfrsptrs 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    “Hey guys. I think we should count this out loud while playing.”

  • @sneddypie
    @sneddypie 4 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    i really like the sound of the second violin's violin

  • @jamesaydelotte6269
    @jamesaydelotte6269 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    listen at twice the speed absolute madness.

  • @danielaguilera474
    @danielaguilera474 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I used to have trouble with the third movement but I can't get those cluster chords out of my head. They sound vibrant now instead of dissonant somehow.

  • @juneaino5805
    @juneaino5805 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    8:50 the beginning of the third movement of catches me off-guard, such a beautiful and sweet underpinning for the cello solo

  • @russellwest8767
    @russellwest8767 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The best one

  • @raphinoj3848
    @raphinoj3848 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The licc at 9:56 !

    • @Dylonely42
      @Dylonely42 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Haha

  • @Cosmicprog2012
    @Cosmicprog2012 หลายเดือนก่อน

    PERFECTION

  • @Lucraetio
    @Lucraetio ปีที่แล้ว

    Fantástico!!!!!!!!

  • @bearnemo777
    @bearnemo777 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    音樂史必聽 ~

  • @jayphurs-stuff
    @jayphurs-stuff 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    i like this.

  • @rorycraig
    @rorycraig 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    9:57 I never would've thought I'd hear "the licc" in a piece by Bartók.

    • @emilianoturazzi
      @emilianoturazzi 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I would never had expected to find such useless comments about Bartok - it's the second time I read someone pointing it out.

    • @rorycraig
      @rorycraig 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@emilianoturazzi Ok, lmao? Settle down, Mary. Jeez...

    • @segmentsAndCurves
      @segmentsAndCurves ปีที่แล้ว

      @@emilianoturazzi It's useless, yes. But people have some laugh out of that. No need to be annoyed by 2 useless comments, jeez

  • @ld_blue4348
    @ld_blue4348 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Before listening to the 4th part of this (namely this) quartet, I did not like Bartok's music. After listening to it, I understood and loved everything.
    No wonder that Shostakovich said that each new Bartok's quartet is better than the previous one

  • @francescodifilippo613
    @francescodifilippo613 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Hi, first of all congratulations for this fantastic channel. Bartok is my favourite composer but sometimes is quite difficult for me to understand his works. for example in these days i'm studying the SECOND STRING QUARTET(1917), and i have found chords like this: a triad C - Bb - E, followed by Db - F - A with Ab in the bass! I really don't know how to classify those chords! Can you help me?

    • @rogthefrog
      @rogthefrog 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      C Bb E could be C7. Db F A with Ab is a Db major 2nd inversion with a dim 6.

    • @olivermelo333
      @olivermelo333 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@rogthefrog I'd say an aug 5, since it is an A natural. Strange chord definitely, 2 different 5ths

    • @yrockerboy
      @yrockerboy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Second chord seem sus

  • @petertoth2307
    @petertoth2307 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Caused PTSD before anything happened.

  • @viki2133
    @viki2133 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    20:40 Rite of spring?

    • @nickdavis965
      @nickdavis965 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      DEFINITELY an influence! I love when composer sneakily quote great works, always seem to do so in chamber music.

  • @flaminsky53
    @flaminsky53 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    8:32 ~ 8:46
    The Study of Orchestration 2-14 (2nd edition)

  • @shin-i-chikozima
    @shin-i-chikozima 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Bartok is abstract

  • @Matthew-nv2wy
    @Matthew-nv2wy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    2:45 What was that note? Did the cello play that? Because I feel like I heard an A♭1, which is too low for the cello.

  • @brkahn
    @brkahn 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    An outstanding interpretation... By whom, by the way?

  • @timothybrittain4161
    @timothybrittain4161 วันที่ผ่านมา

    But WHO IS PLAYING IT? How absurd not to tell that!

  • @HUGO-ux5dl
    @HUGO-ux5dl 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    14:24
    *Red was not the impostor*

    • @familiayoutuber4769
      @familiayoutuber4769 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Your pfp is making me subconcsiously ask questions I do not want the answer to

    • @user-wx2ek3uv1i
      @user-wx2ek3uv1i 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I hate you

  • @perseapina
    @perseapina ปีที่แล้ว +2

    brutal af

  • @raynarks
    @raynarks 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This reminds me of the movie, Waking Life.

  • @olivermelo333
    @olivermelo333 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Listen to the 2nd mvt in 2x please, you will not regret it

  • @yggdrasil9039
    @yggdrasil9039 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Sit back in my armchair, spark up a blunt, and take in some Bartok.

  • @skelltenfredrick5183
    @skelltenfredrick5183 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Lowkey this is terrifying ngl
    kinda bangs tho

  • @kuang-licheng402
    @kuang-licheng402 ปีที่แล้ว

    GOOD

  • @excuseyou7198
    @excuseyou7198 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Omg the second movement is so chaotic

  • @choiyatlam2552
    @choiyatlam2552 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    6:58 Am I the only one thinking the timbre of the 2nd violin kinda sound like a bassoon playing in high register similar to the rite of spring solo?

  • @carterbryanpiano
    @carterbryanpiano 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    9:57 the lick is played

  • @leonbernsdorf2548
    @leonbernsdorf2548 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Who are the performers?

  • @ShanevsDCsniperr
    @ShanevsDCsniperr 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    based bartok

  • @seniorskateboarder5958
    @seniorskateboarder5958 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I cannot think of Bartok without remembering a production i once saw of Bluebeards Castle. One of the musically horrifying pieces i have ever heard.

  • @zaphyra-
    @zaphyra- 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    His string quartets kinda make me sick to my stomach. I like it.

  • @luizjohngamer3674
    @luizjohngamer3674 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Who else got here because of their modules?

  • @amasirat
    @amasirat 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    My study of orchestration by Samuel Adler brought me here.

  • @minjutheminju
    @minjutheminju ปีที่แล้ว

    지훈이 유튜브 스타네...

  • @trannongoble7722
    @trannongoble7722 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    PSYCHO! Bernard Herrmann was clearly influenced by this piece. Especially the finale (IV) and (V).

  • @vannigio6234
    @vannigio6234 ปีที่แล้ว

    uah!... 🌜✨🌛 🐻👍

  • @ShanevsDCsniperr
    @ShanevsDCsniperr 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    first movement is taken a bit slow for my taste, really nice emotive phrasing in the third movement and fourth though. this is probably favorite of his quartets.

  • @ferrosole
    @ferrosole 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Дарк соулс два лучшая игра серии

  • @bio6588
    @bio6588 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    9:57 LMAOOO

  • @thebones
    @thebones 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Transcendent, spectacular, unfathomable, raucous, noisy, funny.......add your own adjectives.

  • @Irembarann
    @Irembarann ปีที่แล้ว

    00:00-0:14

  • @SaccidanandaSadasiva
    @SaccidanandaSadasiva 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Μπράβο στους ναύτες της Κρονστάνδης

  • @xavierlemblun8446
    @xavierlemblun8446 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Je n arrive pas a acceder a cette musique trop intellectuelle pour moi.

  • @SherwinArnilla
    @SherwinArnilla 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What kind of musical style is this?

    • @williamstephens9945
      @williamstephens9945 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      20th century classical music. Bartok was also very influenced by folk music.

    • @robotkarel
      @robotkarel 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Bartokian music

    • @Biag95
      @Biag95 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Hungarian hip hop

    • @excuseyou7198
      @excuseyou7198 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Idk, it’s kind of a mix between semi tonal music (idk if that’s the correct term) and folk music.

    • @user-wx2ek3uv1i
      @user-wx2ek3uv1i 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Experimental metal

  • @barramute
    @barramute ปีที่แล้ว

    Sounds like i'm in a horror movie.

  • @musickingsoon
    @musickingsoon 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    1. 8:31~8:48
    2. 15:21~15:33

  • @Irembarann
    @Irembarann ปีที่แล้ว

    3:09

  • @Irembarann
    @Irembarann ปีที่แล้ว

    12:50

  • @SeeYouNextT
    @SeeYouNextT ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Who’s here from Last Song Standing?

  • @vergelanime9145
    @vergelanime9145 ปีที่แล้ว

    9:56

  • @Dylonely42
    @Dylonely42 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ok

  • @lorenzopepe5556
    @lorenzopepe5556 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ciao belli

  • @Canimals4Life
    @Canimals4Life 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    16:54 Shostakovich/SCH (TwoSet Anime Nickname): 👁️👄👁️

  • @thesupremenecroticdakimakura
    @thesupremenecroticdakimakura 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    help is this alt rock music

  • @moshrom3473
    @moshrom3473 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I like the 5th movement a lot but as far as the rest goes I think that you have to be a full fledged musician in order to "get it".

  • @jacksonkou5435
    @jacksonkou5435 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Bartok was already in the jazz community before it existed 9:56

  • @Scriabinfan593
    @Scriabinfan593 ปีที่แล้ว

    As cool as that last movement is, I feel bad for the musicians that had to learn it.

    • @danielaguilera474
      @danielaguilera474 ปีที่แล้ว

      Lol. I know. But I'm sure they knew what they were getting into. It's like torture and ecstacy at the same time

  • @jonathanlohn4376
    @jonathanlohn4376 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    This beautiful music still sounds modern, especially compared to the reactionary drivel that seems now to pass as classical music.

    • @Sam-zj6mw
      @Sam-zj6mw 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      And yet that’s what many would have said of Bartok’s music at the time.

    • @johnpaullabno
      @johnpaullabno 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      such as

    • @jonathanlohn4376
      @jonathanlohn4376 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Sam-zj6mw It's not quite the same thing. Comentators would have thought Bartok drivel because it stretched their understandinding, whereas neo-minimalist 'modern' music is drivel because it relinquishes constant invention of form, harmony, counterpoit and melody which distinguishes the great western muisc. It is hubris that made people reject the former because they fail to understand it, and the same hubris that leads them to set great store set by the latter because it's easy for them to understand.

    • @jonathanlohn4376
      @jonathanlohn4376 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@johnpaullabno I wonder if you can infer what I am talking about.

    • @johnpaullabno
      @johnpaullabno 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@jonathanlohn4376 I could guess that -what- you hate all modern compsers? I could certainly guess, but it wouldn't have the clarity and precision of you owning up and criticizing specific composers. If you aren't talking about specific composers, but are just slinging mud and a vague era of music that you aren't actually that familiar with, then perhaps you should hold your tongue until you do some research.

  • @hankworx
    @hankworx ปีที่แล้ว

    *bangs head*

  • @drazlet
    @drazlet 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    .....Jesus Christ.

  • @ethanhill9460
    @ethanhill9460 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I am a modernist by birth. Beethoven lulled me to sleep as a youth. Attempted to replicate on piano what I know now was "avant garde" John Coltrane.
    This is pretty yet vigorous music. What's ugly or eviserated here?
    I was reared in NYC so my ear isn't born to the quietude of German farmland -- or "city" -- circa 1818.
    Hail the modernist.