Ghost Hydra P+ - Locking race holster of USPSA Carry Optics
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 16 ก.ค. 2024
- Race holsters have long been legal in IPSC but not in USPSA. Ghost Holsters has come up with a work around that allows locking holsters to be legal in USPSA Production and Carry Optics division. The gun used in the video is a Sig Sauer P320 - I tested both the AXG and the TXG modules - both work well.
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0:00 Intro / overview
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5:22 Negatives
6:50 using a locking race holster
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I never have shot competition, but I carried a Ghost III holster on duty 8 to 16 hours a day for well over 10 years as a Texas cop until I retired. I have that model for my 1911, my EAA Witness 10mm, and my Beretta 92S. I have carried each on duty and they are the finest holsters I ever carried. I banged them on everything I walked by, getting in and out of the patrol car, while in foot pursuit, wrestling with a suspect on the ground, and a multitude of other places and times. I always knew that my weapon was safe, and protected, and that drawing it would be lightning fast no matter what I did to it. Again, I have no experience with the competition model, but this company has been producing high quality SERIOUS business police duty holsters for at least 20 years.
Thank you! Since I have not invested in a USPSA belt/holster yet, this will be a huge help.
Same
Looks great. I've been waiting on your thoughts about this. Think I'll pick one up for my S2 OR. Thanks.👍🏻
Great Review! Was looking at trying out the GX Vice holster but just ordered this instead.
I use it for my Shadow 2 Orange with an SSI Nitrofin gas pedal! Smooth as butter!!
I just got one, I love it!
Great review! I’ve been waiting for your thoughts on this. Will definitely pass on “Space Buddies”
I know this video is about a year old but since I just found it it's new to me. Thank you, I've been looking for a holster for my xd that would be worth a crap. I found one. It's not this holster in general but they do make one for it. So thank you
Thanks for another outstanding review. Now, if they only would open up their options and make this for other guns like the Canik.
Canik is now available!
First things first, Go Dawgs!
B-Dawg is your spirit animal
Yeah baby, the hydra p!!!
Thanks for the great vid. Only one on YT still for this holster. May I ask whether the P+ version had the so called inner "ledra" liner they have on other elite versions? I have a FDE finish on my pistol and I was trying to ensure no scratches on marring on my new baby😅
I want to expand and get into uspsa and this looks like something I'd eventually want, though for carry optics they don't make it for the pistol I planned on running. Curious by the way it locks up if I could get something kinda like it and have it still work. Been following a few years now and love your videos. Watched many a few times. Good job and thank you for the information and opinion,
Looks pretty warm in that room! 🤣😅✌️
I am using hydra holster fast and safe
Ordered the sp01 version for my A01, hopefully it interfaces well!
I'd be very interested if the A01LD fits.
@@joshuabaker5712 I’ll reply back when I get it in. I have the SD but will be picking up an LD as well. Holster options are one thing the platform is lacking.
@@joshuabaker5712 A01LD fits great, SD has some wobble but works.
Would you recommend this out of all the ghost holsters for the 92x performance (USPSA production and CO)? Also can I use my Boss hanger with it?
Great review - thanks!
Can you pleeeease ask Ghost to make a version for Walther PDP? Or dou you have any other alternative holster you can suggest?
I doubt the competition holster outfits are going to do PDP holsters as it's not used in many competitions.
Damn. Wish there were a way to make it light compatible. I'm gonna keep using my Safariland with a Nubmod until I settle on a CO setup. Until then, issued gear is good enough for my mediocre ass.
I’m not a competitive shooter, but the idea has crossed my mind from time to time. So - for the uninitiated - may I beg upon you to explain the purpose of that scoring overlay card you have between yourself and the pistol at 3:52 (or thereabouts). you have my curiosity piqued.
I’ll have to look through your videos list in hopes of finding an introduction to a sport shooting Kinda presentation. You make a great ambassador for the sport and I have so many questions - I’ll have to assume I’m not the first to peruse your channels offerings in hopes of finding a wee bit of guidance on how to get started in the sport…. ..or be talked out of it 😂. Good stuf daddy’O. Keep up the great work 👍🏼
round nose projectiles don't leave true bullet hole diameter holes in targets - the overlay gets closer for questionable shots - or if you have two holes stacked on each other can help determine if it's one or two bullet holes (this does happen but is rare).
I have those videos - this is specifically for USPSA - but it's similar for IDPA - th-cam.com/video/0ZcrJfJaS_k/w-d-xo.html
I'd recommend IDPA with basic gear as a way to get started and safe then maybe check out USPSA - or start with Steel challenge then dive in with the other two even.
@@TheHumbleMarksman thanks for the info Appreciate the advice!
Does this holster have adjustable retention? Like, not when it's locked, but can you adjust how much force is necessary to draw the pistol while the holster is unlocked?
“They’re horrible.”
My gosh I feel this deep in my soul. Having endured most of the “Buddies” series I understand. That said - the pinnacle of personal hell was seeing “Hotel for Dogs” at the theater.
Ewww
i still only want the manual transmission. I'd already have a new Vette if one was available.... 😜 that holster however. i want it.
What if you have a Odin folding gas pedal for Sig P320?
How does this one compare to the DAA Max Holster?
Great reviews.... Looking for something like this for my LTT Elite 92 RDO....
Hey thank you for this review. How holster are doing right now? I have decide to buy p+ version
I switched to the regular P mount but otherwise great
Didn't care about the holster, just here because it's a THM video!
you're mentioned in my next one big boy - get excited!
@@TheHumbleMarksman I don't know if I should, "woohoo!" Or "Uh-oh" !
I still don't understand why USPSA hasn't adopted the IPSC ruleset in regards to holsters and just allow race holsters.
Great video, how do you think it will work on the lynx belt? It looks it may work with an extended take down lever for a P320 like align tactical? True or false?
The clip should work - yes - but - some body types have issue with how far it places it from your body. I don’t have legality issues but some females do. The regular P attachment to the belt is better for some
@@TheHumbleMarksman Thank You!
How do you like the hydra P+ vs the double Alpha max
I recently bought a DA Max and Ghost Hydra P+ for my other gamer gun. The Max holster is nice but I had to apply so much torque and pressure to tighten the torx bolt that secures the angle, can't and camber that I kept moving the gun and holster out of position. I got frustrated and am returning the DA Max. I also found that the adjustment of the roller ball on the DA Max trigger guard was all or nothing. Either the gun was super tight or the adjustment needed to be virtually wide open/ no friction. The Ghost Hydra P+ is easier to use. I'm pretty new to all this so form your own conclusions. I even called Double Alpha and they sent another pivot joint but it also need a ton of torque to tighten the Holster in position. Even when I got it crazy tight, I could almost move the Holster out of position.
my only two issues with this holster is the "c" position and how loose your gun is even when its in the locking position.
I agree. I need to ask Ghost if there’s anything I can do to improve this. My DA race holster is solid. Does it really need to be is the question.
David, I just received this holster yesterday and noticed that the locking tab is kind of sloppy. Did you notice that as well?
Depends on the one - I have a couple now - you can wrench on the set screw on the knob and tighten it up
@@TheHumbleMarksman Just msg’d RangePanda with a video and he says it’s normal.
Am I correct that this will not accommodate a flashlight? It looks like the locking mechanism would interfere with an X300.
No light
Hey have you run into any issues with the locking lever coming loose and breaking? Mine broke mid match and I get sent home and now can't find ANY replacement springs or the little ball bearing or get in touch with them
No it hasn’t - I use something else for open - but I know some high burn dudes with no issue
I ordered the Hydra P+ Rig from Ghost USA almost 2 weeks ago and order is still processing. I'm new to ordering competition holsters, pouches belts etc. is this normal for competition equipment Ghost, DD Alpha gear etc? Don't see lead times like you do from ordering a ccw holster. Appreciate any response from those who are already in competitive shooting. Thanks
Email them. They were in the midst of doing an update to it - but this is far from typical
@TheHumbleMarksman appreciate it I have adding honestly they were rather rude and said it should ship within the week.
Mine took almost 3 weeks. But it was worth the wait. Really nice piece of kit as they say.
As a content viewer, I’m gonna need you to make more jokes about how your a legitimate media enterprise.
not sure how I missed this. Absolutely.
Would it have clearance for an Odin Armory pedal?
Probably - left side of pistol is wide open
For a shadow 2 OR would you get this or the thunder? Or which ghost in general? The hydra p shouldn’t scratch the gun much as it doesn’t have the ledra inside? but looks like it barely grips the pistol anyway. Would you get the P or the P+ for ipsc shooting
Personally - I like the Hydra better. Thunder works as well - the hydra hanger some people had it fail - new ones come with a redesigned hanger - FYI
@@TheHumbleMarksman what’s more secure or better in general. I’m new to IPSC shooting. The Hydra p or the P + clip on mount? I’d be getting the ghost belt and mag holsters too. Probably directly from them as I’m in Europe
@@TheHumbleMarksman ended up buying the Hydra P. I was wondering, can you leave the holster unlocked the whole time? it doesn't lock automatically when you holster the pistol right?
Does it work with the Lynx belt?
Noticed you weren’t using it in the video anymore.
Lynx is in a weird spot - I put on a touch of weight so I am in between links to the point where the pants I wear make it tough for the buckle to close
I totally understand. I have a love hate relationship with it. Apparently my waist size changes daily by small amounts and it’s noticed when I put it on. And it’s really finicky at the holster connection and some days wobbles like crazy.
Can you test fit a A01LD? I really want this holster but they domt list the A01LD
Don’t have one sorry
will holster work with Lockgrip flashlight ?
Nope
They don't make them for the CZ p07!
What makes this a "race holster" over a Safariland ALS or GLS holster? Isn't it the same thing aside from the position of the unlock? I've never used a race holster, but I thought the point was to not have to clear the muzzle from the holster. So when you have material that the muzzle has to clear, aren't you basically just using any other retention holster that features a single button unlock?
Or are you unlocking it before the RO says "standby"?
You unlock at make ready
@@TheHumbleMarksman Thanks. I pretty much only shoot 3 gun so I don't see very many race holsters. That's definitely not something you can do with a GLS holster
Thoughts on Hydra+P vs DAA Max?
Looking to build my first setup outside of battle belt style
if you don't want to come up the learning curve of the a locking holster - Max for sure. I personally like locking holsters so I tend to favor ones that lock. Performance wise - they're very similar.
@@TheHumbleMarksman thanks for the response!
@@TheHumbleMarksman Hey David, I had a few more questions that you may be able to answer with your expertise !
First I appreciate your time,
For the hydrap+ can you switch off the retention during make ready? So there’s no lock defeat during the draw?
Second question, is the hanger on the ghost up to par with the DAA? Or does the ghost hanger need to be replaced?
The DAA hanger is superior - to everything else but the shock bottle ball joint one or the Henning T1000. Yes you unlock the holster at make ready - you don’t start with it locked - even if you did it’s very natural to sweep off on the draw
@@TheHumbleMarksman thank you kindly for your time to reply ! Very helpful insight
Are the sight channels high enough on this to accommodate the ltt elite?
No
@@TheHumbleMarksman this is the most rereading thing Comment I’ve ever seen.
Thanks for the quick reply.
Also I need a review of bulls Glock and the mr920 comparison as well. Thanks I’m advance!!!!
Wouldn't it be nice if USPSA actually adhered to IPSC rules so that all divisions could use race holsters? CO has gotten so far out of wack from Production w/ a Dot that it's turned into an arms race.
What belt was that in the intro?
The ghost belt
Would this still be production legal?
Yes
I want one but no support for staccato
Staccato should be a available in the next month.
Love your content, my dude. But...turn up the a/c in your studio...you're sweating like Ted Striker at the end of "Airplane!". 😉 #dontcallmeshirley
yeah there's a lot of lights in there and I filmed like 4 videos at the same time - it got to me.
Is it legal for IDPA
no - it is offset too much from the body probably to be legal and pass the dowel test.
Anybody running a Rival-s with this rig? I just got mine today and it's way to tight. The slide comes outa battery just to get the gun to seat in all the way. Getting it out is next to to impossible. So bummed, next match is August 12th and I really wanted to use this rig. Anybody else have a similar experience? I've reached out to Ghost and hopefully will hear back soon.
***Update***
I was able to make some adjustments thanks to a fellow on Reddit. Match #2 here I come.
Nice review. Since my P80 (G17) has no safety, I'm also looking for an owb LOCKING holster recommendation that also is uber safe to prevent holstering ADs. Add to that a light and dot and I feel like I'm looking for a unicorn. Anyone with a pointer very welcome!
The safariland als doesn't work with optics, the gls solves this easy enough
Coupon code didn’t work. 😭
“Gearup10” didn’t work?
@@TheHumbleMarksman It did not work. Just purchased the hydra p + complete rig and at checkout the coupon code was not accepted. just an FYI. 🤷🏼♂️
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Their hangers are bad. I have just purchased another Ghost holster on a similar hanger although attachment plate to the belt is slightly different. That hanger got bent by me simply tightening the screws. The issue is not whether the gun is secure but if the hanger can withstand any impacts, like hitting ground in prone or just getting caught on something. My holster is with a third party hanger maker right now, trying to figure out how to mount it on something more solid. There are a couple of other issues. Of note, I submitted a review on Ghost's website over a week ago and it is not there. Sorry for a contrarian opinion on your channel but but I wouldn't recommend their stuff until they reinforced those hangers.
The Hanger on the new model P is as stiff as the BOSS now... for anyone contemplating them still. Pretty slick holster for a G34.
I have a Walther Q5 SF, now what...
Big dog steel makes a holster for those that locks I think
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Disappointed in this holster as mine arrived last week. To engage the lock, you have to depress lever for it to rotate. Very difficult to do one handed, at least for me and my hands. Sticking with the GX products holster for now (still a big gap in holster design)
Stick with it - the lever rotation isn’t difficult to do. Tons of open shooters do it.
@@TheHumbleMarksman I’ll take your advise and give it a bit. Very little to no drag/retention hitch with ghost holster (which I love). I know, Ryan from Big Dog Steel and he’ll be sending you his design. I much prefer it over anything else. He’s making one for my CZ shadow. Agree that there’s no difference in race holsters and bucket style holsters with performance, but an easy lock and unlock AND no drag from the draw just makes for consistency, speed is not achieved from holster design. Speed will come after consistency is achieved.
how I do it with one hand - press in on the face of the button with my thumb, use my forefinger to press down on the lever to lock it. Sometimes I have to recruit the left hand if the mechanism gets dirty or I'm just not taking the time to apply pressure straight in on the button.
I had forgotten about Ryan - last we spoke that was a while - 2-3 months ago at a minimum.
Hmmm most closed holsters have retention screws which you can tighten. If a gun falls off it's because someone is keeping them too loose. I can jump up and down and my gun doesnt fall off.
Now optimize your holster for a fast draw and shoot and train a lot
Just buy a GX products locking holster and be done.
I prefer a trigger guard lock to a muzzle lock. The mechanism is superior.