BBC Question Time 11/12/2014 Russell Brand Nigel Farage
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- Full episode. David Dimbleby presents topical debate from Canterbury in Kent. Among the panellists are Penny Mordaunt MP, Mary Creagh MP, Nigel Farage MEP, Russell Brand and Camilla Cavendish.
Amazing how Farage was right 10 years ago and Russell Brand has totally flipped from being an establishment supporter to where he is now!
Very telling to see the politicians attack Russell from time to time out of nowhere. And for what? Being popular and having money? He's very knowledgeable and actually listens and cares about the people's concerns, which is more than I can say about most politicians.
I didn't even know that was an issue. Does that happen a lot in the UK? And has Russell come out and said he doesn't give a shit or is that something you're inferring because you haven't heard him talk about it?
***** If you have politicians and police who let any group of people abduct, pimp out and commit heinous crimes against young girls and then try to cover it up and let it keep happening you have deep seeded problems of corruption that are much bigger than immigration.
*****
"Even though the so called conservatives aren't much better labour had a distinct plan to flood the country with immigrants even though the people never wanted it."
Oft trotted out hogwash, apparently the UKIP movement in swansea consists almost entirely of Somalian immigrants.
Such a heap of blab
***** pedophilia and rape are problems in the world that need to be solved but this isn't about white and Muslim, Christianity and Islam this is about people being used and accused by monsters.
The police historically have been terrible at dealing with this and helping victims. Russell Brand doesn't talk about it for a variety of reasons but I'm sure he doesn't want anyone to be raped.
TheRealAdamT
Don't listen to this fool... No, there is not some endemic situation of "islamic grooming gangs" going around kidnapping "anglo" girls. We don't even really use the word anglo to describe ourselves FFS... The only thing you should take away from here is that in the UK there really are a subset of crazy racists who think we matter far more than we do, and talk absolutely obscene shit about foreigners and 'them muslims'.
I went to a state school, with some very bright kids who could think for themselves. One kid said one day "I want to be doctor when I'm older". We were about 15 years of age. The teacher said "nobody from this school will become a doctor" and laughed it off. I had another teacher who wore a tie that beared the name of a local grammar school on it. He screamed and called us all 'thick' on a regular basis. It's as if we were programmed to think we couldn't be high flyers. Now I have a TH-cam account claiming I'm in a Justice League with a disturbing picture of somebody in a bathtub. Proof that I have been failed by the system.
underrated comment from 6 years ago that not enough people saw
@Adrien Zaid @Crhis Chance
yo pretty sus how you both joined youtube on the same day
@Adrien Zaid sure you did, you moron
Take responsibility for your own life you moaning prat
@@bensmith5288 Wow a Lott has changed in almost 7 years hasn’t it ?
Watching this 10 year on , how right nigel Farage was
It would not make a difference. If Brand did stand for parliament he wouldn't get in for the reason it's all manipulated by money And power. Everything Brand stands for would not be of any gain for the rich, they would loose billions In helping working class and making the country a better place in other words everyone would be equal. Oh and of course lets not forget honesty. When has a politician ever been honest and carried out what they say they will. At least brand is honest. Whenever he hits a nerve with what he says, (cause it's the truth) what does the fk up media do? Attack and try to belittle the person.
Amen, the fact that that bitch who was saying cock as a joke should be no where near fucking me or my potential kids
That just showed the mentality of the people who have "our best interests at heart" Trying to make light of a extremely serious subjects I think is not acceptable. I have a great sense of humor, but their is a time and a place,
Russel is a multi millionaire himself and part of the Glitterati. He does talk sense alot of the time , i agree, but he always sticks up for his corrupt greedy celeb friends.
Erin Brand IS (inexplicably) the rich - all his talk of redistribution of wealth seems to apply to others.
Disagree Zarah sultana has pretty much the same mindset and outspoken opinions Russell has and she’s a member of Parliament.
Russell mate, you're a decent guy with a big heart no doubt but you have to understand; UKIP is Britains's last hope. Stop making it about right or left because that's so trivial compared with what we're really up against. You make a HUGE MISTAKE in confusing the rich with the true powers that be. No one likes the rich and tbh I'm even getting tired of UKIP banging on a about immigration 24/7 but you have to see there is A MUCH BIGGER CONSPIRACY going on and the EU is CENTRAL it. Stop talking about bloody immigration and listen to Farage on WAR. FARAGE HATES WAR! AND THAT'S WHY THE ESTABLISHMENT HATE HIM BECAUSE WAR IS THE MOST PROFITABLE TOOL FOR THE ELITE THERE IS. !!!THE REBELS USED CHEMICAL WEAPONS!!! AND THAT ALONE IS WHY YOU SHOULD VOTE UKIP!
Barack Obama also "hated" war, and said there would be change for americas foreign policy and their racial inequality...look where that got them
Moror . . . Right on. The LibLabCon lot took us into an illegal war egged on by Tony indoors. Cost is £30,000,000,000. Be interesting to see where all the lucre went. I know some of it will have certainly gone to the middle class with pensions, via a somewhat obscure route and studiously ignored.
Prime Minister David Cameron in August insisted the government's position on Iraq is "clear" and said the UK would not deploy "boots on the ground". I did not have sex with Miss Monica Lewinski. Like Tony Blair there will be semen stains. Blair's stain was 480,000 dead non combatants with his consenting adult partner Bush.
While that was being said our SAS boys (no dishonour to them at all - NONE - they are the best) were carrying our recon, pointing lasers and assisting some ISIS crew to their ultimate end. Now I see we will have boots on the ground.
I also see big profits on the horizon for the arms dealer lot, huge bonuses for the bankers, thousands more innocent deaths and more austerity cuts for us.
Usual scene. Except for Nigel. He has a lot to live up to, but he said it, it is out there and I will bellow if he reneges.
www.express.co.uk/news/uk/546781/British-forces-Iraq-Hundreds-UK-boots-on-the-ground-return
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The Grade and when have we said we was better? we as a country are better of out off the EU with our own laws not being told what we can and cant do. having one set of laws for multiple country's doesn't work, different country's have different problems and have there own fix. we as a country don't mine immigrants but they have to have something to give back to the country not just come here because they get to live for free and everything given to them. we are not racist just fed up would you buy a house then let a stranger live in it rent free and give him money to buy furniture and money each week to live off (no and that's what we are sick of)
You can't just shout "racist" whenever someone has a valid point that maybe you don't like this is a country with freedom of speech
To hysterical open border liberals, narrative and mantra come before logic, facts and reality. Blame the blatant bias in the media and education system.
I honestly am not sure who to hate more: Russell Brand or Nigel Farage? Ideologically, I'm definitely more against Farage, but Brand comes off more unbearable in just how obnoxious he is. And you know what? Give Farage some credit, he handled himself with maturity and actually answered his questions directly. What do you guys think?
I completely agree with you there. I do love Russell as a comedian, but not as a sanctimonious political commentator. I couldn't care less about Farage, I can't stand the man's ideology.
I agree...Brand is the left-wing Farage
Magic Man - Nigel tries to listen, to have manners and to reason. He does quit well on these I think. Russell has to learn to do the first two better and the latter more calmly but I think he has his heart in the right place but has his foot in his mouth. Oddly enough I think they would probably agree with each other. Its just the path on how to get there they disagree on.
Is it the immigration you don't like about his ideology? His other big point is that of self governance. I cannot understand people who do not value the freedom to make their own decisions.
Magic man's comment is definitely part of a UKIP PR stunt, you can see the hidden agenda shine right through basically saying "I'm with you guys totally both are idiots but that nigel, well compared to russell he isn't so bad right.. right?" You ain't fooling no one mate..
Still love seeing that smug demeanour get wiped from Russell's face by the disabled chap.
I'm disabled too, and there's nothing more infuriating than having someone speak for you. Stay out of Politics forever now that you've gone Russell.
There is nothing more frustrating than watching a politician try to blame immigrants for a lack of funding when they approve tax breaks for billionaires.
Female Politicians really need to stop bring their gender into it. I'm all for more diversity of genders and races in politics but really, stop bringing it up.
***** Male Politicians talk over Male Politicians too. It's just a Politician thing, and it NEEDS to change. But it isn't based on gender.
+Richard “Firebug” Merrick Humans in general have always behaved badly, me included, from the unemployed to the executives. Reflection I feel is a better word than change. When you do something wrong, you accept responsibility. Reflection and also acknowledgement is part of accepting responsibility.
+Richard “Firebug” Merrick They can go ahead and make people's lives a misery. I can guarantee you one thing. They are human after all. Trials and tribulations. When you make promises, e.g lower taxes, creating employment, transportation, etc, the public are fed up with them, that is when I know that the trust is gone.
Exactly, people interrupt each other get over it for god sake, keep making it about your gender when actually it isn’t doesn’t help anyone.
That's right Russell, when you run out of arguments, just shout 'RACIST'
yet he was still the most intelligent person on the panel
The other people on the panel back up their arguments, all he could muster was 'but but but UKIP are racist, lets blame bankers for everything'. Don't think that makes him intelligent.
MHL83 true but if you actually paid attention to what he was saying and if you spend the time to see the his videos about certain issues affecting the UK you will see the amount that has been lost through tax invasion then you to would be blaming bankers instead of everything else that when it comes down to it hasn't been having any affect on the UK
so you may not find him intelligent but what I've seen from him shows clearly that he is one smart chap
What has he actually achieved though? Nigel Farage (love him or hate him) got us a referendum. Russell Brand appears to just shrink into the background, and occasionally pop up spouting about everything he sees is wrong with the world, offering no solutions at all. Perhaps if he put his 'intelligence' to good use people could see what you see. How he behaves with Farage in this video is just like a comedian, just using put downs to get him a laugh and applause from the audience. He never really gives a good reason he does not like Farage, just says what he knows will get the reaction he wants. This is something he definitely is good at... perhaps you are confusing this for intelligence?
You want the Comedian to be in charge?
This didnt age well for Russell. He sounds more like Nigel now
35:33 "why aren't we talking about that?" then it get's completely ignored, I'd really love to have seen what they would have said about that and how they'd fix it
Well done Nigel Farage. His points are always clear, concise, and meaningful.
21:13
Look at that guy on the left, WTF
HOLLYYY FUCKING SHIT! that shit scared the fuck out of me
HAHA what the fuck.
what the fuuuuuuck WHAT THE FUUUUUCK
*****
Well m8 I'm sorry to hear that. Please try to understand my reaction, because that was a thing that I have never seen actually happen to somebody. Realize that it those things might look weird or funny to some people, my friend for example cracks up for some handicapped people, even when he doesn't mean it to be negative. It's just a reaction that happens in peoples brains and you know that when you aren't supposed to laugh, people usually laugh the loudest. Of course there is no excuse for people who mock other people.
Tupemo
I'm the same, I know it's a shame on disabled people but I cant stop myself laughing when I see them. I try and think to myself.. that could have been me.. and the my laughter takes control.
All the politicians talk about these days is immigration. They don't see the immigrants that actually work here and pay taxes, who come here to work and then buys properties which is helping the construction industry, the ones that goes shopping and by doing that helping our high street bounce back to live, the ones that are here and employing people's thereby taking people off the dough. The uk allows more immigrants than any other countries in the EU, and the uk is the fastest growing economy in the EU following the global financial meltdown. Yes there is strain in every social amenities but instead of looking at one direction let look at the big picture. IS IT A COINCIDENCE THAT THE UK IS THE FASTEST GROWING NATION AMONGST THE OTHER EU COUNTRY?
It's not a coincidence, but I would argue it has more to do with the UK staying out of the disaster that is the Eurozone, rather than on how many immigrants we are accepting. Remember, even though they are paying tax, they are also withdrawing from the system by using public services, so it's a give-and-take situation and the precise numbers vary depending on which source one reads. For skills and services we need, its great. If it's putting a British person out of work who could be doing that job, not so much. Most immigrants fit your description, the problem is the scale. Something else I object to is that non-EU citizens are discriminated against for no other reason than where they are from. Britain needs to move towards a needs based system, based on an exchange of skills and services that we can't provide sufficiently from our own people. Move towards that, and our country can maximise its gains and minimise its losses from immigration.
Cm1032, I totally agree with you, am not in support of the mass immigration myself, what I don't support is the way the politicians are making it look like. I read the other day that farage said the reason he was late for a meeting or something, was because of immigrants. The influx is sometimes overwhelming, where I work, until the come out of the warehouse at the end of the day, you will think you are in one of the eastern European countries, they don't speak or understand English. If the government wants to cap immigration they should, regardless of where you come from.
Lloyds Eweka
I think Farage has raised a fair point even though he managed to do it in a clumsy way. Infrastructure investment within the UK has not kept pace with the level of immigration. It was partly a hangover from the Tories before Labour were elected, who made the problem even worse, spent all the money and now we're mired in debt trying to find some money to put on infrastucture. A lot of immigrants also drive cars and investment in roads has not kept pace with car ownership. Hasn't for a long time. Even the existing roads are poorly maintained, how long can we drive for without hitting a pothole? Immigration wasn't exactly the problem for Farage's delays, but the government not investing enough in infrastructure to support their immigration policies is to blame, in my opinion.
What is #whitegenocide ?
Lloyds Eweka Something made up to scare dumb The Sun readers into becoming bigoted, racist twats?
I love how English people speak so directly about all this.
My friend that is because when talking to idiots it's best to be straight because you make yourself absolutely understood and as is our world is full of idiots and liars
This is the best question time ive ever watched
Yes , a very democratic debate.
2021: One man standing.
Who?
LMao this shit's awesome. Need shows like this in the U.S
Doogie Spence We have them . . . .
Lizzy Loves No we don't.. Not like this. What's the show you fucking smart ass?
I'm not trying to be a 'smart ass'. Face the nation is like this and a few others. Again not trying to be a 'smart ass' just saying that we do. No need to get hostel.
Don't get "hostel"
Yeah no need for hostelety.
I really hope the people attacking and commenting on the people on this panel actually watched the entire video, rather than just the one segment that the Media has emphasised and advertised everywhere. Cause it looks like the bbc and newspapers find the "argument" between Nigel and Russell more important than the entire debate itself. So people will watch those 5 mins and reckon themselves educated. Everyone is avoiding answers, everyone is talking over everyone, everyone has valid points and completely wrong points - that's politics. To focus on all the negatives of one person, which is what the media likes to do (without being controversial), isn't constructive. It just divides us more! The media plays a huge part in politics, how do you think Russell got on this panel? The real discipline is to focus on the actual dilemmas rather than focusing on who you hate or who you love more. At one point I was on Nigel's side, next I'm on Russell's, then I'm agreeing with the Journalist. It's a sure sign to me that this separation in politics isn't working (duh), but if we combined the right ideals of each party and find a balance (instead of voting for one extreme or another). A lot of our issues as a nation can be solved. I'm probably stating the obvious here, but I agree with Russell when he says "give us something to vote for".
you can't barrage the farage
Barrage the cunt
@@bdash3215 so intelligent and articulate
@@eoin8019 you wanna tussle with Russell's cheesy muscle
I love the audience participation! Good healthy debate, clearly adversarial but still with decent mutual respect. Don't see that much these days
Even at 32:10? 🤣🤣
What Ukip supporters forget is that open door immigration is self-balancing.If someone comes over and can't find a job then they will leave and if British people don't take certain jobs then someone else will.
The fact that there is loads of immigration to the UK is a sign of economic prosperity not a catastrophe.The reason why there is strain on public services and infrastructure is because the tories cut money from those sectors.
***** If it is self balancing, Why are we building homes at a such fast rate? Why is there people demanding we need to build on green belt land? Why is there people renting a single room for over £300 a week in the capital? Why as London's population grown is double of the rate of the rest of the UK?
KD84Afc™ I'm glad you asked.Realistically we're not building at a fast rate at all.We're not building enough to be able to meet the needs and that's why prices are so high - high demand,low offering.Only around 10-15% of the landmass of the UK is built on.We have space.As for why London is growing...well I already answered that in my OP.We may not be happy about the way money is being spent and distributed but there is economic prosperity and that's why the population is growing.It really is as simple as that.Higher standard of living means more children per family and longer life expectancy for the seniors + more immigration.People don't like to hear this but open door immigration is better than controlled immigration,because it means that the constant traffic of people(inbound and outbound) constantly keeps markets satisfied,whether it would be by people taking up jobs or starting up new businesses.
Brand is a smart dude. He knows. He has been to that side. Listen to this guy.
He's a multi millionaire celebrity... Goes against everything you say. He obviously works on you. wrapped round his little finger :)
kerbain He works on me lol? You have far too much free time on your hand man. Go do something.
hehe, I could say the same to you. I had 30min to spare and checked out all your crazy youtube comments :D Seems you have quite a lot of time to waste. Funny stuff though. Thanks for the lols ;)
kerbain Over the last, ohh i dunno 5 years i think i made like 100 comments lol. I dont even want to get into your list of shit. So do you reallly wanna talk about who has the most time? or are you just gonna keep searching for shit i say on other videos and act like im the one with all the time on my hands?
100 amazing comments :D To be honest I don't usually do this. But I'm going to keep going until you stop replying. Which I think may be never. So we both have spare time. Amazing. :D
Australia as noted at 12:25 by Farage "has a high voter turnout". That turnout being vote or be fined lol
As it is also in Belgium.
People just turn up get their name marked off and don't actually vote on the ballet, so the voter turnout isn't even an argument that can be used
35:30 Most important question... just skipped over.
Nigel farage: "Australia is an amazing democracy with high voter turnout"
..yh...because it's legally mandated...
Having watched a few episodes of this show for the first time, I can't help but think it's one of the most aggressive and vile shows I've ever seen. Everyone just attacks, interrupts and yells at each other with no attempt to actually solve problems. No wonder politics in this country is fucked. The only admirable person here was the journalist (Camila, I think her name was).
Butnix This one was okay, all things considered, but some of the others get pretty insane.
I would class a decent conversation as people calmly hearing the other out, then presenting their side, with an open-minded attitude and preparation to accept they were wrong. Those weren't present there. And "e wuss"? Really?
Butnix Ah, fair enough. If you're interested, I think I saw one with Nick Griffin that was pretty horrible (it's a bit old now, so it might not be as bad as I remember).
A Disappointed Horse its very interesting how the point of view changes depending of the angle you are, coming from an 3rd world country i found the debate so civilized and contained that can't help to admire and be envious
Nigel Farage seems to be the only one of them with anything even resembling a working knowledge of economics.
Looks like Russel Brand is a poind shop Jimmy Savile.
I was attacked and had both sides of my jaw broken, i waited 14 hours in A and E waiting room and you know what? The end of the day they took care of me, and operated on me for free and they did a bloody good job aswell. I'm so thankfull for our NHS service.
I Dont vote for UKIP, but Nigel was the only one who either answered the questions and did it clearly whilst the rest either spent far to long explaining themselves or didn't answer the question at all and decided to attack nigel instead of answering the question
Farage studied at a public school, Dulwich College, and then went straight into the City of London as a banker/trader working for the wealthy investors. He has been surrounded by millionaires like Paul Sykes and Stuart Wheeler, who are also funding the UKIP, and by aristocratic hereditary peers (i.e. the establishment of the establishment) like William Legge and Willoughby de Broke, who are members of the UKIP.
Farage is married to a German, Kirsten Mehr, who worked as a government bond broker. His great-grandfather, Carl Schrod, himself, was born to German immigrants, who changed his name during the WWI due to the anti-European sentiment in the UK at the time.
These fundamentally ironic facts are ignored by UKIP supporters, believing that Farage represents the common public against the establishment. In reality, he is just another political opportunist selling an easy bandwagon through a deceptive language to uninformed frustrated people.
Basically, what UKIP want to do is turn the UK into a copy of the United States
The fact that Brand, is multimillionaire who constantly runs down capitalism whilst enjoying everything it has to offer is completely ignored by socialist fascist supporters. In reality, Brand, is just another hypocritical wealthy leftist who panders to the privileged middle class BBC viewers.
BruceT
You say "socialist fascist". Many socialists are anarchists, and anarchism is the antithesis of fascism.
"Why is Anarchism also called Libertarian Socialism?"
anarchism.pageabode.com/afaq/secA1.html#seca13
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anarcho-socialism
BruceT alrite darlin whatever ya say luv
Nigel made his own money. Has millionaireband ever had a proper job?
24 mins - passion in politics I haven't seen in years - it's refreshing! Russell Brand is right in my opinion - it's easier to point a finger at the newest immigrant than the bankers and politicians that need to be accountable for letting down the masses - in my opinion!
We can't we have shows like this in the US? Audience members yelling at each other, audience members calling panelists racists, everyone just freaking out? This is like Jerry Springer but with educated people. Awesome.
why was Russell even on the panel?
Great questions from some of the young ones in the audience. There is a faint glimmer of hope for the future.
This comment aged well mate…
I love how Nigel Farage successfully pees off everyone. 👌🏻😁
Yes I Think it's dodgy brand I bet you he try hide IS Money Fr tax man no money for social stuff
@John Redwell-Skinner Lol
SIR Nigel Farage only pisses off the minority.
@@stutoon2755so the monitory is 88% of thr uk okie live in your own world then😂 btw same % as a amount of shit people in the country therefore MUST be a minority 😂😂😂
Russell Brands mum at the back of the room LOL.
Russell is Jack Russell dog smoker
LOL
This is exactly why Nigel Farage should be Prime Minister
God no
"The notion of the common good is gone...." So well said.
I'm an American spectator here, and a lefty at that. My perception of the British left is not very high though in this debate. There is a lot of jabs and cries of racism, when it seems like everyone else is just talking about limits and background checks on immigration. Having a country's population increase by a 6th in 10 years is a big deal, we could easily absorb those 11 million people here in the US, but those figures do seem serious to me, and these lefties seem to not want to have a serious discussion about it. I'm not seeing the racism here, and it reeks of evasion.
*****
Well I think it's cultural. I think one of the things I admire about the UK is that there seems to be an intense national pride for tolerance that I think is born of the fact that Brits view themselves happily as an open and accepting people.
In America, we used to be like modern Britain, and even engraved on the Statue of Liberty "Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free". But the pendulum swung the other way because of the sheer scale of 20th century immigration to the US, which overwhelmed the Eastern seaboard (though Im grateful to it). My feeling is the UK is making its policy more with its heart than with its head, which is not something to ridicule, though perhaps a change is due. Yall need to close up a bit, and we need to open back up a lot.
My hope is that y'all can get a comprehensive immigration policy without feeling like you've cheated the multi-cultural British heart. It's not a race issue, but Britain can welcome its immigrants much for effectively under a regulated system.
***** I think you don't know a lot about Europe or America. I think America and Europe have strong strands of xenophobia. Of course, not all American states, and not all European countries. Texas is less tolerant than Germany. Massachusetts is more tolerant than France, and so on.
***** I don't think you know what a troll is. A troll is someone who says something they don't believe to annoy people. Here, I wrote my take on this debate, then you came in with some BS, and I state why I thought you were wrong. Add "troll" to the list of definitions you don't know.
***** Ok Michelle. I hope you get a safe job as a receptionist where you can't do any harm to anybody
+ChefMark
All UKIP has ever said is that they want LIMITED immigration and more background checks, and they have someone become viewed as being a Nazi Party. I would wager that 99% of those who are anti-UKIP would not be able to name a single one of their policies, just that they are "racist".
The Left in the UK are absolutely mental. If you don't support the EU and open door immigration, if you don't support benefits being handed out to everyone with a cold, you are a racist facist scumbag.
How can the english people support Farage? You got so much eduction and smart people, yet this is the best you got?
Hello from Canada!!
Just listening in as many of these "hot button" issues apply to my country as well.
I disagree with Nigel Farage on a number of issues, but I have to say he has made more sense than the others on this and actually answered the questions whereas the others either made it personal or completely avoided the questions.
I'm Australian... there is high voter turn out because you get a massive fine if you don't vote.
You guys should protest that or do something,that's oppression in my eyes
it's too hot though
Im also Australian,you do not have to vote you have to go to your nearest polling station and have your name ticked off the register but yo do not have to vote.
briklay Still thats pretty fucked.
You only have to vote if your on the electoral roll don't sign up don't vote
The woman in the purple is worse than Farage...now, that's bad
martinw28703 What's wrong with Farage?
+LimeFroge He's a politician.
The only difference between left and right is whichcentral bank is controlling them.
Thanks to Russell I find it interesting to see and listen how it is in U.K. Can say that the situation in my country Croatian is so the same with corrupt and not even polite politicians. Would be happy that we had someone like Russell. Lots of love from Croatia.
Oh my god, british politics are amazing. Lol
Was a bit confused when russel said he wouldnt stand as an mp in case ended up like the rest of them. How can you preach knowing that if he had power then he could be corrupt? It doesnt matter if your far left or far right. People are people and give some people power and thry will only look after their own.
1. why would a man who has such a disapproval of parliament and the way it works, choose to try and become part of it? That's like saying, I hate the way football revolves around money these days so let me go and join a team.
2. What reason does he have to feel the need to join it? The only benefit people get by joining parliament is getting a strong voice that is heard by the people at the top. He clearly already has that.
i respect uk immirgration, policy obviously its ur country and you make the rules. i came to study in scotland was the best student award, uni medal at graduation. got promotion while working in the next 2 yeARS. was working in one of the best gold resorts in il earling 22k a year. was looking a good future, the company wanted to extend my visa got screwed when david cameroon changed non eu visa rules more tough than ever. The only thing is david cameroon should have told us while we applying student visa that i was make it impossible for you regardless of talent, hard work coz i would have studied somewhere else not where i felt like s burden.
*hotel
I'm sorry that happened to you. I too, as a British citizen, am very angry at the unequal immigration policy of my government and the cowardice in going after people like you instead of addressing the issue properly. Even worse, proposals for reform that would reduce immigration numbers but at the same time move towards a system that is more equal, discriminating on basis of skills or need, and not on where you are from, are constantly shouted down as racist. The irony is unbelievable.
Unfortunately Abhishek this government keep letting in criminals and fraudsters not people that want to integrate, work and get on in life.
Nigel is a head of his time,can't believe this is almost ten years ago, look at the state of the UK now!!. Am glad gobshite Brand has finally been held to account, throw the 'wooky book' at him!
Would have liked to of confronted that loud mouth mad cow in the back row of the audience, she's the scumbag! more like.
I am not even British, but I really really enjoyed this debate. Thank you very much for posting this. Minute 35:15 and the Question asked by the lady and was not given any answers is one of the most important question that plagues not only the british nation but the whole world. Instead of focusing on side issues, why do we not all focus on why the rich do not pay taxes. If we really do not tackle this issue, the super rich will get richer, the poor will get poorer. The control will be in hands of the greedy few and George Orwell's 1984 will take full effect.
Yet again Russel Brand using emotive commentary than hard facts about reality and the real causes, what he lists are so vague that he might as well not even bring those points up.
I hope i dont sound like a bigot but farge is talking about immigration policy, he is not against immigrants, he actually talking about immigration policy and how the EU legislates it,, great isn't it, you try to talk about a serious issue like immigration and you get called a racist like the woman shouting racist at the back of the room, why can it not be talked about without people getting all the wrong idea like this?
Felt bad for Russle. He means well and loves the people but he really doesn't know how to solve the problems with out keeping everyone happy.
The politicians always say the "Understand" but they still don't do anything about it.
@35.55...talk about taxes not being paid and David changes the topic!!!
Very good points Mr. Farage about the high voting turn-out in Australia, except that turn-out is compulsory in Australia, so your point is null and void, sorry Nigel.
Why is Russell Brand there? As a desperate move to make the program entertaining since if fails miserably ad being informative.
We need Question Time in the United States.
Hillary wont come
Then she can go fuck herself.
Neither would Trump
lovervshater1234 Sure he would, he loves talking to news media. Hillary is the one who hasn't had a single press event in almost a year now. She can't stand answering questions.
Im sure he does love it he is just fucking terrible at it, and just because Trump answers questions doesn't mean his answers are good at all.
Does anybody else notice at 20:43 just after Farage is talking about controlling immigration, when the chair takes the question over to Russell, he very briefly makes a 'prayer' sign before he answers and from then on he seems very subdued, almost like he's trying to suppress emotions..?
does anybody else notice Russell says he's got a few quid ?
his net worth 15 million
His 15 million did not come from people's taxes like Nigel's does however.
gninja92 Nigel has 15 million too ?
i dont know and i really don't care, mate. arguing over who has how much money. makes me sick.
gninja92 Farage got wealthy off tax money?
"Australia has high voter turnout and their politics is the same"
Nigel of course leaves out that *not voting* in Australia is illegal, much easier to get a high turnout when not showing up will get you a fine.
Forgive me, which one's the comedian again?
Immigration isn't the issue. Infrastructure to support a population is the issue. Infrastructure that supports productivity. Infrastructure that costs money. So the issue, as per usual, is finding the money. With such economic inequity visible in the taxing of large corporations and bail-outs removing the balancing characteristics of a natural risk-return profile to investment and banking, there are plenty of ways in which the allocation of funds can be improved and tilted towards to the much needed investment in infrastructure.
TL;DR
There would be enough for everybody if the largest corporations contributed what they should.
I love Farage's response to that animal shouting abuse at him, "Russell, you've got some voters in mate, these are your voters. What lovely people they are." Brilliant Farage.
Like his voters are any better xD
@@rvmm2 We are
2023 and nothing has changed
All of those people attacking Brand, that's what the media wants. The hate campaigns directed at attacking him on a personal level to distract people from the REAL issues that he's actually talking about. The issues that politicians avoid and the media sweep under the carpet. Whether or not people like Russell Brand on a personal level is completely irrelevant. What's relevant is all of these issues that he's bringing to light, issues that we should really care about. He's not claiming to be able to solve all the world's problem. He's highlighting them when others in the spotlight won't and doing his best to empower those that struggle to be noticed by those that run this country. Good on him.
You know what I got to say about immigration?
I've never been to an English pub without curry on the menu..
I dont know what pubs you go to, but every pub ive been to does not have curry on the menu.
Curry Tuesday at weatherspoons? Yeah that microwaved processed Shite you get with a pint of fosters for £4.99 is really worthwhile
I'm voting UKIP!
Nigel farage is very hypocritical Russell brand makes a lot of sense
lloyd dixon He rents. . . . . .
lloyd dixon
How is he dodging taxes?
Wolf come out of the shadows and explain what is hypocritical about Farage. Exactly. Don't be shy or do you work better in a pack.
lloyd dixon Russel pays 76k a year to landlord that dodges taxes. Where in that sentence does that constitute Russel dodging taxes?
I find it even more amusing that you chose the sun to quote from considering Rupert Murdoch exploits every legal loophole known to man to dodge taxes. 11 years he went without paying tax in the UK, but Russel's the bad guy?
That makes sense ...
8:50 "excuse the sexist language love, I'm working on it". - Russell Brand
How topical.
Well Mary Creagh was my towns MP who went against the wishes of the town is now gone .
Russell Brand called his book "Revolution" It should really have been called "Give into the two party system and vote Labour"
Penny is an absolute waffler😂
The girl at 5:30 ...
"Yeah I'm a sheep and you can clearly see and hear my general lack of understanding about whats going on around me, the lack of knowledge of history and politcs in general, my weak education... BUT I THINK that we are going in the right direction! And I'm glad that politics is still petty because my brain wasn't equipped to handle change!"
zzzZZZZZ.....
Penny in this debate is so respectful and speaks really well if people would stop talking over her.
According to the BMA 92% of all contacts between a doctor and a patient in the UK are with a GP. What most people fail to recognise and none of the panel mentioned it here, the overwhelming majority of the UK's GPs and private contractors to the NHS and not NHS employees. The gatekeepers to most services in the HNS do not and never have been directly employed by that organisation.
Re Grammar Schools. I'm not saying the UK model now in places like Kent or in the past was the best form of selection. But overwhelmingly, those countries with the most successful education systems academically and highest levels of social mobility have some form of academic selection at high school level.
very disappointing, dwelled on pointless questions.
was really hoping that the tax evasion thing would have been discussed in more detail, especially considering russell was on the panel.
Notice dimbledey kept changing the subject
originalkitten I imagine Russell will mention how "controlled" the discussion was when he revisits the subject later.
Nigel just makes sense it's simple...
When the so called elected leaders are asking a comedian for advice, then you know you are in trouble.. *God help us all*
I'm an American and obviously the immigration issue is a very heated topic here as well. What I find curious is why no one talks about WHY so much immigration is taking place anyway? What domestic/foreign & trade policies--decided on and voted in by the most wealthy & powerful businessman/politicians of said overcrowded countries--have led to such an influx?
That man who decided to have a go at Russell Brand had no points at all. Just decided to start shouting.
Thank god for Russell Brand. The only one who talks any sense. Sticking up for ordinary people
Hahaha
Wow Russell actually added something to a show rather than just irritating the hell out of me like he normally does. he actually made this normally dull show better.
Russell added lots
What was that actually? He's a cxxt
I like Nigels point on Grammar schools :)
Brand doesn't even answer the overpopulation question, but just lays ad hominems, one after the other against Farrage. And kudos to that man who with the can who defended Nigel
The rich and corporations avoiding taxation was raised a number of times but each time is was stepped over.
Urgh, that crazy old bat at 25:00 made my skin crawl... horrid woman.
+tcpgblizzard Couldn't agree more, the two moments that I recall where she suddenly jumps in and interrupts whoever is talking were annoying. The second was especially so because she was taking what the young blonde haired woman was saying and twisting it as to suggest that she was being racist. I admire the fact that the woman who was subjected to the tirade wasn't going to take it lying down and informed the horrid, irritant how rude she was! Thankfully it was the last time that insufferable individual got to butt in and spew more of her rubbish! Whether she was thrown out or someone from the BBC QT team had given her a warning I don't know but still, thank god!
Robert McElwaine Good point. I too am glad the blonde woman defended herself and didn't let that old crone get away with her lies.
HotaruKara What a nerve! You don't even live in this country and you have the audacity to criticize us on how we think things should be run in OUR own country! And I don't blame immigrants because of our problems with immigration, I blame the government, OUR politicians as it's they who run things! Don't assume to know who we blame or don't blame you arrogant ignoramus!
Vlad The Installer
I'm neither, I'm a Romanian studying Japanese in college. And I was referring more to the discrimination Romanians and Bulgarians have to face openly. Muslims are treated with kid gloves, because they would cry out "racism". But it's okay for British people to be discriminatory and xenophobic against Romanians and Bulgarians, 'cause hey, we're all Europeans and white and there is no such thing between white people themselves, yeah right. You call us Gypsies but then you say we are white so it's not discrimination. We're not Gypsies, we are white but that still doesn't give you British people the right to insult us. Romanians and Bulgarians are treated the worst in UK while muslims are backed up by lots of groups, feminists, SJW etc. But when it comes to East Europeans, they don't give a shit. Don't worry, soon UK will have more muslims than christians and then you'll beg for us to come. Using Romanians as scapegoats when most of them are students, or have respectable jobs, like in the health sector (doctors, nurses etc). I've never been to UK and never plan to live there.
Robert McElwaine
Indeed, your stupid government is at fault, and you say "what a nerve" to me when I'm right and you actually agree with me? You're a joke.
Hey Britain, Stop spending so much money on Illegal wars, bailing out bond holders and then make big corporations pay tax. There you go. All problems discussed on this 1 hour pony show, sorted. The point of most politicians is to muddy the water and make you point fingers at the ones who really have very little power. For people saying RB is putting people off politics- the only reason I watched this shit show excuse for a debate is coz Brand was on it. Maybe he's a hypocrite because he's rich but he's the only hypocrite that actually gives a shit and is the only one with a brain that can think outside the status quo paradigm of subservience to banks and corporations.
Russell Brands TH-cam profile pic of himself in the image of Che Guevara says it all really.
Im Australian...... It's compulsory to vote here...... Thats why the turn out is so large! I paid the $50 fine and didn't vote because of our politicians being a joke! In Theory nobody won the election here in the vote before last and in the most recent one...... it elected a man that has statistically become the most hated in our history! So is that healthy............?
I literally just watch this to know how to be more persuasive when argueing !
Nigel is Spot on
Some of the most amazing doctors are from other countries, migrants provide the uk with careers, mechanics, plumbers. Who will take these jobs without them? Lets work together to help the people of our country. Immigration isn't the issue! Corruption is!
english people could do them jobs, i know crazy considering its england
***** theres not enough of them, thats why we get help from over seas
lam neth
there are over a million unemployed
what are you smoking ?
*****
yea mostly uneducated or just layabouts
lam neth
In elite high skilled professionals (eg, Doctors) there is a possibility there will always be a need for some imported skills. It should be done properly on a work permit points system.
This does not apply to middle or low skilled labour market.
*i mean really why would we have immigration if we didnt need it?*
- A policy of driving immigration to change the face of this country to rub the rights noses in diversity and render their arguments useless.
That was the exact wording of a leaked document on this country's disastrous immigration policy.
Now we have the EU empire and its crazy rules.
Only a racist can dismiss every British person unemployed as unqualified layabouts. Just accept being a racist its what you are.
21:50 - Wow, that is just brutal, Russell's attack on Farage. Heated but pretty good discussion actually. Russell does not come off too well with his histrionics and insults, but he was dead on when it came to the promotion of BREXIT and Farage's false claims it would help the NHS.
I agree totally with Russell Brand. The UK government is slowly becoming a fascist regime whereby the government represents the best interests of the corporations rather than the people it was put in place to serve and protect. A small percentile of people in this country are very rich and they are slowly looting the poorer people of this country with austerity cuts, rising fuel cost, rising transportation costs, etc. I think it is time for a major change. This country has become compromised in my opinion.
Latest update 28/07/2015, 2,000 immigrants storm euro tunnel causing delays in UK, UK losing £750,00 - £1.5 million day in trade. France sort this shit out in Calais, we need to get out of the EU.