Question Time | 14th March 2024
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- Fiona Bruce presents an hour of topical debate from Liverpool. On the panel, from the government, Lee Rowley MP, minister in the Department for Levelling-Up, Housing and Communities; Jonathan Reynolds MP, who is Labour’s shadow Business and Trade Secretary; the Scottish National Party’s Westminster leader, Stephen Flynn MP; the broadcaster Ayesha Hazarika, who was an adviser to the Labour Party; and the commentator Melanie Phillips. Also live on iPlayer at 20:00.
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I can’t get myself to listen to any more lies about the Israel and Gaza conflcit
What lies? Hamas are muderers!
Do they think we were blind? I've seen so many videos full of evidence what happening in Gaza, People are starving to death, amputating legs hand etc without anesthesia, children crying under the rubles, children sharing they story that they've seen people blown up by bomb, limbs hands head brain everywhere. And Israhell have done this decades. Do they really think we're blind or something? It's ridiculous to heard what they say about what actually happening in Gaza when we know the truth. Shame on them.
Aye, both sides are terrible.
Ditto. Don’t normally listen to QT either. Ive long regarded it as a platform for the far right. And here we are again. I wasn’t wrong.
@@Ytnzy250Don’t both sides the situation, kids are dying from starvation in only one side right now
Put Ms Phillips on with Prof Norman Finkelstein if you dare and we will see what a brave, honest, compassionate Jewish humanitarian filled with fact and intellect sounds like, if only the bbc had the balls! Blessed are the peacemakers.
Finkelstein is a smart chap, but if you actually listen to him a great deal of his “debating success” is talking over others, high pitched moralising and strategic omission of facts.
@@jeremybiggs8413 I think quite the opposite, most times he is being shouted down by many from his own community because he is challenging their bigotry and ignorance, he is quite respectful if given the opportunity to respond without abuse but not afraid to raise his voice when appropriate. 🙏
Completely disagree. What came out of Melanie Phillips' mouth was complete and utter non-factual drivel, to the point of almost being comical. I think you could tell from the audience's reaction that they were not buying ANY of her spurious claims.
Funny thing is it was Ms Philips that coined the name "Londistan" she was very big on pushing Islamaphobia back in the day.
Imagine putting a race of people in your country, then watching those people take over your country. Would you not fight to the death for your freedom. FREE PALESTINE
Why does everyone just keep referencing October 7th!? How is everyone's memory so short? This has been going on for 75 years no?
An interesting point about oct 7th is that more combatants per civillians were killed by the terrorists in proportion to the amount of combatants the idf has killed.
Yes, Palestinians have been provoking Israel for 75 years
Its to shut down any sympathy for palestinian civilians or israels apartheid policies and occupation 🤷♂️
Exactly! Just over one week before October 7th Israel conducted at least three days of airstrikes on Palestine. Where is the outrage over that? Israel started this in 1948. Hamas is the result of *their* actions.
@@louisep428 No, it started before then. The Zionist movement existed in the 19th century. 1948 is simply when Israel was recognised as a state, but Palestine wasn't (having been told they would be).
Please do bear in mind, Britain is highly complicit in all of this, so you can be sure the truth has always been obfuscated because we want the colony there to keep the region unstable and ripe for continued exploitation.
It's foreign policy, which is about power, morals and ethics have NOTHING to do with it at all (which is wrong IMO, but my opinion doesn't change reality (unlike for people like Melanie)).
Only one person in this audience applauded Melanie. Games up BBC
It was in Liverpool what do you expect?
someone didn't watch the intro. they openly admitted they filmed in a labour area this time. but sure, conspiracy time for you
@@DanafoxyVixen Yes and they always get an audience more representing the country. You never watched qt before? They say it at the beginning of every episode.
You're so easily confused LOL
Melanie a Zionist shill
Looks like Melanie had a family member in the audience.
British people are zealots pro Zionist.
Hasbara personnel
Yes, a PROUD JEW!!!
Also wasn't hamas born out of the reaction to the Israeli occupation....?
no it was born out of islam
Actually it was clandestinely funded by Israel.
@@jamesc8709 your answer is just as correct as mine I think
i suppose so
Hamas has also been funded by Israel for years. They were handy for Bibi as they destabilised Palestine and made it less likely to be accepted as a legit country globally. Israel has been shown to funnel millions to them via Qatar
Conservative Party put Israel first before British people.
Both have, thats the thing people need to realize
That's not true, in their minds. Israel is a power colony of "the west". It does serve us by keeping the region unstable and therefore exploitable.
Imperialist/nationalistic mindset is strong in politics.
N.B. I don't like it, just telling like it is, not how I want it.
@@joaopedro-ue3xx Exactly. They spend so much time travelling to and from Israel to take instructions from thier paymasters, and too little time working for thier constituents.
Get an education will you
@@wobblybobengland werent you thr guy defending the old one literally everyone is laughing at cause she is such a partisan hack? Good reason ppl are laughing in your faces at this point rather than take you seriously.
I'm a black woman whom works incredibly hard within the NHS to serve all of my patients whateve their background, I'm not surprised about the comments nor do I care, I prefer to know who people are and how they really feel about me and my kind.
It is what it is unfortunately, people are who they are and I will continue to be who I am.
Racism is a disgusting part of human life, however lets have a discussion about where these ideas come from and hopefully evolve our ideals as human beings and learn to live amongst one another as best we can 🤷🏾♀️
I'd prefer that racists be named and made to feel ashamed for being racist.
Never normalise or accept racism.
Never suggest that non-racists and racists are on equal footing morally.
Especially from a figure who is funding a very influential political party.
@@stabishop1769yes I meant discussion your right, not discord
That women is an absolute disgrace. This conflict will just create more extremists in the long run.
She is literally never right.
She's holding back; you should see her performance on the "Anderson" podcasts.
She is the extremist. Zionism is fascism and settler colonialism.
No thank you. I regard her comments as verbal pollution. Like Particulate matter, injurious to health if absorbed. Good to know that it is being pumped out though. A sound mitigation strategy, needs to be put in place that’s all. So her supply of offensive exudate can be turned off
@@Caroline-yv5om well then 'the levant' must truly be an inhabitable place ( the pollution being do severe )
No one bloody cares about this whole extremism thing. Go away, Tories.
I do so you are wrong !
They have imported wronguns on mass . Reap what you have sewn
Stephen Flynn is very impressive, he speaks with humanity and compassion
Stephen Flynn is such an impressive speaker. Our MPs pale in comparison.
Stephen Flynn is a one trick pony . And having a leader with connections to Palestine I wonder where he gets his politics from . If you listen to Scots they are no to impressed with Hamza Yusuf and the SNP and there conduct .
No he isn’t. He couldn’t answer the question.
@@brianeke2586you obviously haven’t seen him in Parliament. He’s definitely a force to be reckoned with.
The man is a blagger and you are a sheep maybe?
@@Andyreally He won't be for long because the dreadful SNP is toast.
Melanie is embarrassing herself. Shocking!!!!
Best thing on it by miles
Why do you hate Jews?
Yes, she is a dreadful woman.
@@dwc6853 Melanie a Zionist shill.
Wdym by embarrassing herself?? She truly believe zionist lies as truths.😂😂😂 She doenst gaf aslong as she got her propagandass across the room. A zionist indeed.
The irony of an extreme Government attempting to define ‘extremism’ would be laughable if it were not so diabolical. Starmer’s PLP isn’t much better. What this show demonstrates weekly is how anodyne, inconsequential and cowardly Tory/Labour MPs are.
Yes. And the clarity of the SNP
Oh poor Melanie-the lies and gas lighting are not quite working anymore are they?
No wonder the audience was laughing at her.She once worked at the daily fail that would explain a lot To bad she didn' t mention the MPS that are taking donations from the Israeli government.She was to busy trying to discredit Stephen Flynn while still having the cheek of calling herself a journalist nobody was buying it.
Such propagandists need a new Goebbels to let them know how ensure their lies land in the age of smartphones and internet.
Although with A.I / deepfakes just about to become incredibly difficult to differentiate for reality, there's about to be a massive swing back into their favour.
They'll push out fakes as truth and claim truth to be fake (like now, but turned up to 11)
Liverpool is a gaslighted city!
Defining extremism is a meaningless exercise in labeling. Crimes are crimes, bickering over what to call them is a performative way of doing nothing at all.
If they claim they don't have a definition of racism, they can claim they can't confirm whether it is racism.
If you were brought up right, have empathy and do as you would be done by, you don’t need a definition of racism etc. You have your own moral compass. You also have the basic humanity and sense to judge each case on its merits. That is why Ms Phillips is criticized and why the Tories will be OUT.
@@Caroline-yv5om I believe and think when Christ Jesus said "Do unto others ..." He meant the laws of God (the Father) also apply to you not if you were slapped you slap back. We are called by God to love: will the good of the other as other for their own sake not to just have empathy (the ability to understand and share the feelings of another). Also, I do not believe either God the Father or God the Son said anything about creating 'your own moral compass'. Christ Jesus explicitly states that He did not come to abolish the law during the Sermon on the Mount which I believe and think is about the difference between crime (separation from society) and sin (separation from God).
Stephen Flynn hit the nail right on the head regarding the £10m and the Tories
FB didn't like the truth
But, he didn’t answer the question did he 🤷♂️
The SNP calling the Tories for dodgy money give me a break
The tories will steal as much as they can until the next election. They know they're done for
YES SNP IS NT PURE EITHER OVER 600K GONE MISSING YES NICOLA STURGEON
@chrisc3197 hardly on the same scale is it?
We can _always_ depend on the good Liverpudlians to speak frankly and call out Tory Bullshit when they smell it. Bravo
Good Liverpudlians? They are all left wing fools!
Melanie your comments were so wrong and would you mind explaining the killing of 21 Palestinian people waiting for aid. They were killed by is Israeli troops and that's a fact 😠😠😠😠😠
Blame HAMAS.
I thought death threats were a crime?
Only if against a person of the "in" group
You're thinking of stickers. They're definitely a crime.
@@baldieman64 Only if "BIll Stickers" is white .
Billionaires are above the law.
Do u honestly believe that he was threatening to kill Dianne Abbott ?
IS RA EL IS A TE RR OR IST STATE
Why aren’t they getting rid of the settlers blocking the aid
In 1946 Irgun, Jewish Paramilitary organization bomb King David hotel, killing almost hundreds of civilian (british, palestinian arab and jews). They also known for several atrocities to palestinian village. Their goal is to establish jewish state. After 1948, their members were absorbed into IDF at the start of the Arab Israeli War. The Irgun was a political predecessor to Israel's right wing Herut (or "Freedom") party, which led to today's Liqud party.
One of Irgun's notable leader is Menachem Begin, also founder of Liqud party, Israel 6th Prime Minister and mentor to Benjamin Netanyahu.
Irgun is a terrorist organization.
Very relevant debate for 1946 dont think it means much now
In 1929, Arabs murdered every single Jewish man, woman and child of the town of Hebron - which had been a Jewish town for more than 2000 years. Some of the Arabs culprits were taken down by the British and executed. These same people are held in high esteem by Palestinians in the West bank. As for the Irgun, they were only a small part of the IDF and were hated by the other Jewish groups like the Palmach and Haganah who did the real fighting during the Israeli war of independence.
George Galloway MP next week?
It's painful watching Britain rip itself to shreds
Not so painful for it's former colonial victims😊
Oh I don't know; at least it's not dull.
@@shaheempashua6924 Ancient history smiley face.
victims of all the great improvements we brought you mean?@@shaheempashua6924
Love the questions, Liverpool, very sharp, not negative, but critical, as they have to be. Well done
I am lucky enough to live in South Australia. Our premier is trying put forward a bill whereby there will be a cap on the amount of money that can be donated to any political party. That would really put the cat among the pigeons should the uk decide to do it too. But it would certainly create more transparency and be much fairer. Big business and the unions have too much clout.
Mal
Melanie Phillips says there are bad conditions and overcrowding in prisons and that this leads to problems of recidivism. Can you imagine the bad conditions and overcrowding in the south of Gaza?
She can hardly expect any better results from what is going on in Gaza than she expects from prisoners and ex-prisoners.
I think you’re mixing all the misinformation up together and not really getting the facts.
@@Uuilll3L Do you think for the children in Gaza everything will turn out fine and dandy?
Well, that is the point isn’t it. It’s disgusting how the word children is used without anybody knowing who the children are and what they’re being used for the fact is is that many of these children are of fight age and they combatants . Furthermore, if you look at the statistics that Hamas provides itself, you can see most of those who died are not children. it is disgusting that children are being killed but tell me what are the facts? Are they children or combatants? They can be both. Remember the conflict in Somalia and in Africa they used children as as soldiers.
@@Uuilll3L There is one part of your comment that stands out in contrast to everything else you said. It is, "It is disgusting that children are being killed"
Then you go and admit you don't know what you mean, because you go on to ask, "Are they children or combatants?"
You either know the answer to your own question or you don't. So, tell me why you say, "It is disgusting that children are being killed"?
Is it, or isn't it?
@@noelpucarua2843 well don’t you understand that this is a war and that in any war words are used as weapons in a war. They are use to obscure the facts. It is clear when people just want to score points of rhetoric in this verbal war when they don’t know what they are talking about and want to make things up rather than tell the truth, or agree with the academic truth or do the cautious academic thing and not comment about statistics that they don’t have. The only organization that is lying about statistics is the Hamas Health ministry.
Hope Diane Abbot watched. She deserves this support
She hates white people!
Steven Flynn was brilliant in this, intelligent, passionate and dignified in his rebuttals.
No he wasn’t. He was dire! Party political speech that didn’t answer the question.
He was hopeless. Just ranting to a left-wing audience to get applause. And his little saltire badge. What a knob. If an Englishman wore a St George badge he would call him a right-wing extremist!
I think he won a lot of fans, particularly in the audience, but, whilst his points were right, I didn't think he added too much to the conversation. Shame on Phillips for trying to play the "you're antisemitic" card on him, though, he was just stating verifiable information. She was spouting zionist propaganda
@@vordmanthere’s a huge difference between how Scottish nationalism and English nationalism have been conveyed and what they actually mean and you know it.
@@vordman 😂 These days if you say you’re English you’ll be locked up and thrown in jail!
That Phillips woman is a basket case.
Nobody talks about the occupation. Everyone seems to think the status quo was acceptable.
What occupation are you talking about? All the Jewish settlements in the Gaza Strip were dismantled in 2005, and there has not been a single Jew living there since. Governance was handed over to the Palestinian Authority, but two years later, Hamas took over and slaughtered or drove out anyone who opposed them! They rule with an iron fist. UNRWA receives vast amounts of aid from the international community (including our taxes!), but instead of spending it on schools, hospitals and other infrastructure, much of it is stolen by Hamas to build approx. 300 miles of tunnels, complete with living quarters and military operations facilities, and for purchasing arms. Oh, and Hamas leaders live in luxury in Qatar, paid for by others!
@@jennyyates8798 The occupation of the West Bank and the blockade of Gaza by Israel and Egypt. The issues can not be separated.
Until Palestinians have some hope for a better life, groups like Hamas will continue to thrive, distasteful and murderous though they are.
2023 already had the highest Palestinian death toll since 2014 even before October 7th.
Benjamin Netanyahu has been the single biggest destroyer of any hope of peace in the region, going back to his giving succour to Hamas as opposition to Arafat's PA, and his enouragement of extremist settlers that led to the murder of Yitzhak Rabin and the death of the Oslo accords. He is an arrogant fool who acts like he's king of Israel and has only ever bought pain and destruction to Israel and the Palestinians.
@@jennyyates8798 I am born and bred in England, my anccesty goes back to Yemen. My forefathers moved from Yemen to modern day Bangladesh about 800 years ago. My grandfather came to the UK in the 1950s.
Can I go and kick a Yemeni family out of their home and take it for myself because my family were there about 800 years ago? I mean thats a lot less years than 3000?
Justify why someone called David or Jacob who is as white as they come living a luxury life in the US or UK can go to the West Bank and just take a house for himself whilst collecting an AR rifle from the Israeli government on the way.
No semantics, no verbal gymnastics just simply say why is it justified.
@jennyyates8798 now tell me about the west bank
Does Melanie Philips need a refresher course on the history of Israel, it's like the Nabka never happened.
It's not Melanie Philips who needs a refresher course on the history of Israel, it's the rest of the world which needs some basic education on the subject!
Oh dear does the fact that Liverpudlians have a care for their fellow man annoy you.@@Andy78L-ft4gf
The Zionist line is they all left because Arabs are Arabs and they weren't attached to their land.
It's nonsense obviously but so is God so...
Free palestine😊
@@jennyyates8798 Tell that to my grandad who almost died in the King David Hotel bombing, while he was serving in the British Army in Palestine. You genuinely need to read the history. I don't mean that in a patronising way, but I can tell from your comment you haven't taken much time to research things like the terrorist attack I mentioned. Please do, have a lovely life.
Never have I felt so disgusted and disappointed by British politics. The conversation is dominated by racial slurs; be it 'extremist definitions' or 'Rwanda immigration policies' or 'How many Palestinians is it ok to kill? ' or 'Advocating for leaving the European Courts of Human Rights' or 'disagreeing with the European Union'.
Currently, people can't afford basic goods, the cost of living is so high, property and taxes are ridiculous, and the NHS doesn't work nor does our infrastructure...
STILL THE MAJORITY OF BRITISH PEOPLE HAVE THE HONOUR, INTEGRITY AND NOUS TO FIGHT FOR WHAT IS RIGHT. IT'S HEARTBREAKING OUR LEADERS DON'T.
13:04 Thank you to this guy for just telling it like it is instead of skipping around the subject like everyone was doing.
Labour mps did well until they couldn’t condemn Israel
They need to do better
75 year long apartheid, 16 year long blockade of Gaza and now committing genocide. Pure evil
Exactly.
The so-called Palestinians have been trying to commit genocide for nearly two centuries, starting with the massacre in Safed in 1834 and culminating in the biggest mass murder of Jews since the 1940s, which took place on 7 October last year.
The so-called Palestinians do not allow Jews to live among them and have almost completely driven the Christians out of territories controlled by them.
That is apartheid.
Tory representative is a total tool. Do they have anyone competent? Lets get tory mps to zero ofter the next ge
All the competent ones got kicked out around 2019 for questioning the unhinged ones
"I abore all forms of racism, except when it's me."
Good on Stephen Flynn & his, along with the rest of the SNP’s stance on the insanity that’s being taking place over the last 10 months in Gaza & that’s not even touching on the actions pre 2023 & the decades previous to that date. A fellow Scotsman who would get my vote in a heartbeat if he was ever standing in my constituency.
The Shemima Begum case is disgraceful.
She was 15!
Israeli propaganda
Israel is a baddie is it?
@@wobblybobengland But of course
@wobblybobengland depends if you approve of apartheid, collective punishment and the wanton murder of almost 40000 Palestinians.
duh@@wobblybobengland
Whatever Minister is in charge would get to decide who was to be designated extremist. Where’s the democracy?
If they are going to bring in these " more extreme" anti-extremist laws, then they will have to be balanced with laws that protect people from false accusations of extremism. For example, it quite clear, that being anti-Israel is now viewed by many people as being the same as anti-Jewish (anti-semitic), and this must be jumped on because the next thing that will happen is that being critical of, say, Saudi-Arabia will be seen as being an example of Islamophobia,
who that One man Army that keep clapping ? 💀💀💀
Hasbara personnel
A desperate hasbara personnel
Election please
Everybody is thinking Diane Abbot .
Tories are Toast .
Tories have a number of racist / idiots in their party. Les Anderson, Suella Braverman
You can't mention Abbot without the three R's: Race, Racism or Racist.
Forgive me if I am wrong, but wasn’t Diane Abbot censured by her own party for antisemitism? Or was it for bad maths?
Blimey, do these people even Condemn Hamas?!
Steven Flynn SNP...not interested in security in the UK...just putting forward SNP rubbish....
The amount of people in that audience that seem to support Hamas is shocking. When the Tory MP was talking about all the horrendous things Hamas had done, only one person clapped. Shame on this audience for not condemning Hamas!!!
Stephen SNP - tell Hamas to stop then 🤷♂️
Hamas weren't there to tell or im sire he would have, there was a raging zionist and a tory lackey there though 👍
@@waltflanniganzdog No you're right Hamas are in Qatar & Switzerland counting their billions.
The "commentator" Melanie Phillips is a total disgrace and should not have been given air time, and what newpaper would employ her???.
I can’t believe Fiona Bruce didn’t interrupt Philip’s in her horrible accusations against the s n ps leader in the commons!!!
She lives on another planet if she believes there is enough aid getting through to Gazza .
Don't you mean horrible truths ?
Melanie Philips didn't say say there is enough aid getting into Gaza, she said the problem is that the responsibility for facilitating it getting in lies with UNRWA who are controlled by Hamas. (Many are actually members of Hamas!) The problem is the distribution. The truth is, UNRWA/Hamas steal much of the aid, and either hoard it for themselves, or sell it to the people at exorbitant prices, instead of giving it to them as intended.
Fiona works for the state broadcaster.
They made her a star.
Others working in Israel and Gaza also state that Hamas are stealing the provisions, I'd hazard a guess they know more than you
@@jennyyates8798 More unfounded BS which ye can't prove. Might as well say the evidence is with those Iraqi weapons of mass destruction ye helped the yanks murder a million people trying to find. Sickos.
Palestineans have the right to armed struggle, they are being occupied by Israel.
You call raping women struggle?
Well, you wanted a war; now you've got it.
@@philipskalla4312 You call this a war? Only a coward would call this a war. The inept defence force can only kill civilians, journalists, aid workers, oh and Israeli hostages.
Melanie Phillips is right.
Melanie is outrageous.
The Tory dude is a creep.
The usual talking points.
The Conservatives really will blame anything on COVID
The lies by Melanie Philips! 🤬
She is actually a very intelligent Lady
@@brianeke2586on other matters, yes, but when Israel is concerned she's full blown zionist propaganda
Question time Liverpool? I didn't hear from one scouser in the audience and not one scouse panel member.
Not one of them has a purple bin. So don't tell me this is representative of my people.
A third of prisoners in the UK are foreign, that’s why we have run out of room! 28,000 foreigners the tax payer is looking after.
Oh mallanie, you are so isreali. you're not British. We do believe in fairness and protection.
The british melanie philips lives in israel but the indigenous Palestinian has to live in a desert in tents or neighbouring countries.
There isn't even a 'p' sound in their alphabet.
It's wrong that Diana Abbott is getting abused but Tbh she is a horrendous example of the life long Politician.She is not liked and talks rubbish most of the time .Having said that nobody has a right to abuse
Hamas formed in 1987.. How could they start it? This has been going on since 1948 so what was the excuse until 1987🤔
Hamas is just a gang formed from another gang that used to be part of a bigger gang of criminals and thugs so you can go back hundreds of years to see the Jew hate from this overall gangs ideology.
@@tommyrotton9468
Wasn’t Israeli formed off the back of terrorist and militia groups ?? First prime minister was a terrorist wasn’t he ??
Funded and supported by Israel. Netanyahu boasted giving loads of cash to Hamas. "Israel sent suitcases of cash into Gaza for Hamas, says NYTimes" - Jimmy Dore - TH-cam
@@sirfrozsomji3984 so that excuses what Hamas did later?
@@tommyrotton9468 guess you missed the point 🙄 no wonder Isreali government believe they can do whatever.. it’s known amongst them that western countries citizens are stupid and will believe anything that they tell their governments to tell them🤔 imagine if there wasn’t web and social media? Exactly
Putting pressure on all the wrong people and places.
Jordan and Egypt had the ability to avert a humanitarian crisis all along.
I agree but it's not in their domestic political interest to do so.
11:58: "Nazification of Israel - By brazenly resorting to Nazi style rhetoric and methods of persecution in Palestine, Israel, with the consent of the majority of its own people and unlimited support of the United States, perpetrates the kind of crimes that the Jewish state claims as the raison d' etre of its own creation in 1948" April 26th 2002. Editors pick. Frontline
I was unaware that Israeli Jews were rounding up Israeli Muslims, Christians, Bahais etc etc & putting them in gas chambers - thanks for the info.
What lies this woman spouts. The IDF are not allowing the HGVs through to Gaza. The Zs have a bouncy castle in front of them. I'm sick of the lies about Gaza from Israelis. It's disgusting.
Why does Fiona let Melanie Rant uninterrupted for so long?
Melanie Philips smashing it.
If you mean, spouting zionist lies and devaluing Palestinian lives is smashing it then yeah, you could say that, I guess
Marks out of ten:
Philips = 0
Hazarika = 1
The tory slug = -10
Reynolds = 0
Flynn = 10
Audience = 10
Bruce - 10
Bigots always flush themselves out - don't you. Suppose you are far too dim to attempt to understand the concepts of hypocrisy and self-awareness .
Flyn 0 Philip's 10, that's right
That's way too generous for Philips
The Tory minister, Lee Rowley, is an open homosexual. I wonder if he would still be preaching for the Christian values of forgiveness and love if a Labour donor made a homophobic comment...
that old crow is pure evil like the rest of her mutant clan
Which mutant clan is that?
Why would the bbc even give Melanie everything denier Phillips any airtime. TH-cam what the f???
Thanks for the share thank goodness for Steven. Xx
BBC have been doing this for 100 years time.
Thank God I am not a Zionist
loony uk . is this indicative of 100% populace?
If you mean Mel ,no. But she's not a complete outlier. Plenty of loonies in my country unfortunately. 10% sane but that's growing. 15% nutters like Mel and the rest don't care which is utterly shaming but that's true of many countries.
Pretty blood chilling that whenever “moderate” Israelis try to tell you how tolerant and civilised Israel is, they always cite “Arab” labourers from Gaza and in West Bank settlements working for Israelis
They don't stop to wonder why it's never the other way round with Isreali labourers working for Arabs. Colonialism 101.
Melanie Phillips is either deluded or a liar. Take your pick.
Liar !!! !!! !!!
Or hero.. Truth teller..
@@vincentblack7467 in your dreams, perhaps!
The Conservative MP breachEd his own party definition of extremism by repeating the SA and beheading lies
He told the truth: people were beheaded on 7 October last year.
You can see the so-called Palestinians in the process of beheading victims on the recordings they themselves took as they were doing it.
What is WRONG with Question Time? Hester (in private…in 2019) used the all-to-common expression ‘she should be shot” in response to Abbott calling out certain minorities for falsely claiming they faced discrimination. And really, what political party in the UK has EVER refused a legal donation?
What is wrong with you? Hester's comments were made before Abbott's very poorly thought out letter in the Guardian, so they can't be a response to that, and his comments didn't reference Abbott's views. If that was all he was concerned by, then why would that make him want to hate all black women? Why not just criticise Abbott's ideas, rather than specifically attacking a characteristic that has nothing to do with her views?
As for the comment asking what political party has ever returned a legal donation, for starters Labour returned a £1 million donation from Bernie Ecclestone in 1998, but even if this wasn't the case your question is irrelevant to the matters at hand. The question is SHOULD the money be returned (obviously yes), that would be the case regardless of whether or not there was precedent.
@@samhunter1205If, as it seems, Hester is a racist, I would have thought that rather than returning £15 million to him, it should be donated to some relevant charity or other good cause? And if Hester is genuinely contrite about his comments, then he should donate more to such an organisation as well. Not that money really means anything to such people, but if it can help others, why not?
@@sentlive yeah fair point, a better use for Hester's filthy money would be to donate it to anti-racism charities. What absolutely shouldn't happen is for the Conservative party to hang on to that money - all that does is given the (accurate, imo) impression that his donation is buying him a degree of political protection.
@@samhunter1205 in that case maybe Hester private words were "poorly thought out"?
@@rubinhalabi Not sure what point you think you are making, but the basic principle that one person acting like a shit does not entitlement other people to be racist to them is perfectly valid.
Dianne Abbott will love this!
Bring back the Burch
Melanie is so brainwashed
Fiona Bruce is off my Xmas list.
I thought Fiona Bruce said at the beginning that this audience was drawn from a balanced cross section of people with different political beliefs. Obviously not!
I think she said it was in a Labour stronghold.
11:58 Washington Monthly: "Have I just met the Jewish Hitler?" As Netanyahu forms a new government, pivotal power lies with Ithamar Ben Gvir, leader of the far-right Otzma Yehudit party" by Uriel Abulof
Leftie Labour Liverpool
The Arabs do not have the Israeli nationality, so nonsense..an apartheid government
They have Palestinian passports.
@@philipskalla4312 i'm talking about those living among the occupiers in a corrupt apartheid land
October is not the beginning the beginning was 75 years ago. We are not stupid and we will not accept lies. We all know exactly what is happening and who is complicit. From the river to the sea Palestine will be free 🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸
We need some kind of coalition on the left championed by G. Galloway, Corbin, Diane Abbot and Mick Lynch somewhere in the mix, to get some real opposition and working-class voices back in British politics and get rid of the charlatans in the current Labour & Tory Parties. Stephen Flynn, by the way, does a good job representing the SNP.
neither Galloway nor Abbot give a toss about the working class of any hue. Galloway courts the Muslim vote Abbot the Black & white middle class vote.
Right, wrong, left, right, up, down: you don't have to be a great moral philosopher to understand that the Earth is very large. And that the sun is many times larger than the Earth. A pragmatic question for those supporting Israel's actions: what is your limit?
Extremism, giving the tory donation back.. will Labour give back monies from Isreali lobbies and friends of Isreal. Isreal is widely outside politics considered extremist
“Defining extremism is a red herring”
Tory MP- But it’s my red herring!
One cannot be terrorist fighting on one’s own land. One cannot be aterrorist trying to escape from a concentration camp. It’s the same as trying to escape a German concentration camp during the last war. Did we blame those that tried to escape Sobibor whilst killing their oppressors ? Would one not want to fight those who had their land taken and where the outside world would do nothing except talk about it?
The people who tried to escape from Sobibor did not murder, rape, behead., mutilate or commit necrophilia on civilians.
And by coincidence, they were, like the vast majority of the victims on 7 October last year, Jewish.
Melanie should stay in Israeli
Question Time is a great program. It does not resolve problems. Rather Question Time present different sides of an argument. We have people who believe Arab refugees (some maybe displaced Palestinians and others maybe Arab people who live in Gaza) living in Gaza are being punished by the Israeli Army. We have people who claim the Arab people living in Gaza are not being punished and are receiving sufficient aid from the UN. There are people who live in different if not opposing realities. There are people living in the UK who want Britain and the rest of the world to support Arabs or Palestinians. Other people who want Britain and the rest of the world to support Israel. If we assume there is a violent conflict occurring in Gaza between the Israelis and the Arabs (or Palestinian) refugees then it is up to the Israeli Government and representatives of Arabs or Palestinians to settle their differences. If these two parties want to fight and kill each other then they will fight and kill each other regardless of happens in Britain, the US, France, ... and the rest of the world. It does seem there are British people who want to take sides in the Middle East conflict between European Jews who settle in Israel and the native Arabs.
What is truly amazing is that people actually believe there is some group called Hamas and Hezbollah, and these group are able to wage war against a well organized state like Israel who is back by the most developed countries in the world. Israel's military use some of the most powerful weapons of mass destruction from the US, Great Britain, France, Germany, ... While a bunch of displaced Arab-Palestinian refugees who have been kicked out of their homeland and are dispersed throughout the Middle East can sufficiently organize themselves to attack a modern, well-organized, and heavily armed Israeli State. How in the world can a bunch of homeless refugees kill 1,200 Israeli citizens, and kidnap-&-hold hundreds of Israeli hostages? NATO allies have supported Israel with sufficient firepower to make Israel one of the most powerful and secure states in the Middle East.
Everytime "terrorists" groups attack Israel and kill Israeli citizens it is the Israeli military who in a short period of time crush the Arab-Palestinian aggressors, drive Arab-Palestinian people out of their homes, and annex former Arab-Palestinian lands. So why would Arab-Palestinians promote and support "terrorist" groups when the Israel military always kill far more Arabs and conquer more Arab lands? This does not make any sense. It sounds like hysteria. One of the participants claims that another "Holocaust" is occurring. That is to say Israelis are being slaughtered by a Hitler-style extermination program. But it is the Arab-Palestinians who are dying in far greater numbers and being driven out of their homes. It is the Arab-Palestinians who are far less developed (backwards), dying in far greater numbers, and expelled from their homes. It seems people are using propaganda and trigger words like "Holocaust" to avoid reason, logic, and reality to frighten everyone to join their cause.
If there is a real conflict in Gaza between Israelis and Arab-Palestinians then it is up to Israelis and Arabs to settle their differences. People from other countries cannot stop Israelis and Arabs from killing each other by passing some law in Europe or North America. Great Britain cannot impose its good intentions on the Israelis or the Arab-Palestinians. The only way to enforce Britain's good intention is to send the Royal Navy, Army, and Air Force to Gaza and force the Israelis and Arabs to stop fighting. Does that make any sense? Does the mass killing of Israeli citizens by "terroists" groups called Hamas or Hezbollah make any sense? If Israel's military is so dominant it can defeat 3 neighboring Arab countries in 6-days, can a bunch of displaced Arabs refugee threaten Israeli security? If you believe that then you will believe anything.
Considering it has bias on every panel and allows a genocidal maniac to talk poison I doubt this.
Every member of the audience is a leftie, it's so unbalanced as to be untrue.
Absolutely well said, though I would like to add the vast majority of Israeli born Jews are in fact mizrahi, the progeny of the 860.000+l Jews ethnically cleansed from Levant & Magreb whose families speak both regional Arabic & Judeo-Arabic as well as Judeo-Aramaic etc & eat the same food etc & are not at all European. Thanks.
The first response on Gaza by the Labor guy, you’d never know how it all started, really helpful.
Regarding the abhorrent behaviour by the Conservative leadership regarding the grotesque statements made by their donor about Diane Abbot: What is also chilling is that I think the Conservative MP on this panel might actually be believing what he is saying!!
it is said to see people start talking about from October 7 when it all started from 1947
1947 was a long time ago.
Get over it.
It started in 1834, when the Jews were massacred in Safed.