Correction: It is a spit in the FACE of Silent Hill fans. They not only deliberately stole massive elements, story beats, themes and ideas from Silent Hill, BUT THEY PATENTED SOME OF THEM SO THAT OTHER COMPANIES CAN'T USE THEM. Such as the idea of an "other world". You know, that thing Silent Hill games are notoriously well known for? Bloober Team fucking put a copy right on that and gleefully told everyone "Other companies won't be able to use these ideas". And the thing is, their ENTIRE library of games is LITERALLY based around copy pasting ideas from other companies. Everything before Layers of Fear was a copy paste of something else. Layers of Fear was a copy paste of P.T. Observer is JUST Bladerunner. And The Medium? Fucking hell. I don't believe in divinity, but I am praying to god right now that this all does just turn out to be rumors. It would be like the directors of those cheap, shitty Disney movie knockoffs getting the actual rights to the movies they are plagiarising.
@@owouwu2587 Does that mean this rumor is probably false? Because there's no way in Hell anyone who thought collaborating with GUN Media was a good idea is getting my money. Not after the F13 travesty.
Same. Read that Supermassive was passed up. Honestly wouldve taken a Supermassive super cinematic choice based Silent Hill over a mediocre failed story Silent Hill that Bloober could make. Bloober just has nothing unique to their style. They consistently drop the ball on depictions of mental illness or a good story in general.
But also theres hope because the rumors were that TWO Silent Hill games are in the works and one is handled by Sony which started in 2019. This Bloober stuff wouldve been Konami in 2018.
Bloober Team's game are rather on better side. I hope they are the one making it because The Layers Of Fear franchise is one of the best horror-thriller I played.
@@yoji287 Well problem here is I am a huge fan of the first 4 Silent Hill games and I have historically HATED Layers of Fear for being a pretentious thrill ride rather than an actual game. Simply put, Blooper Games makes embellished walking simulators, not Survival Horror Games.
@@Impalingthorn Agreed with you 100%, I had no faith in Bloober since their entire career was just making poor walking simulators trying to rip off Silent Hill 2. As a fan of the original since childhood who had no hope all the way up to release, I saw some of the cutscenes and picked it up day one. It’s phenomenal. Bloober Team actually pulled it off somehow. I’m floored by how well they did, and well they managed to capture that true Silent Hill atmosphere on modern hardware with modern graphics-I didn’t think it would even be possible. It doesn’t replace the original and has a somewhat different tone-less ethereal and mystical, more naturalistic and dramatic, but I think that was the right call since they never could have evoked the same magic/feeling of the original how it was in 2001. Give it a chance, friend. This is the first time I’ve felt any hope for the series since PT.
Bloober Team should work on applying for retail positions, I cant imagine how obnoxious a SH game by them would be UPDATE: okay they did an alright job coloring in the lines, games fine
I haven’t heard such an entertaining, well researched, and engaging group of gaming personalities since the Let’s Fight A Boss podcast gang. Seriously, after watching y’alls respective channels today for their streams and video essays I’m really wishing y’all had your own podcast. Not complaining though! I’m already a fan of what y’all do! Please keep making dope shit, you two👌🏽👌🏽
Glad to see you all back. I still haven't forgotten the tragedy of the to be master piece PT. Hopefully a new Silent Hill will be interesting but idk if it'll ever live up to what PT was going to be.
I can also understand hesitation about Bloober team trying to create a new Silent Hill game based on where they currently seem to be experience-wise. This will end up being the first time they've attempted a game with combat, and I can't imagine that going too well..... Having seen how they've treated the in-game third-person perspective and their level of animation regarding human faces and forms in cut scenes, they still seem a bit amateur in those categories... Yeeeeah....... I could see this team going hardcore edgy with the storyline and then also providing very clunky gameplay topped with faulty and buggy combat... and also some not great cut scenes in terms of animation... This is a team that seems like it still has a lot more maturing to do before it can tackle a behemoth franchise like Silent Hill...
I don't want another silent hill made by a western company after what happened to 7th gen games i prefer that konami just let die the franchise already
Man, the Medium was rough; I watched SuperGreatFriend's playthrough and at one point, he organically solved one of the puzzles, then went back to solve it, only to get no response because he hadn't interacted with each clue, in order, so that the protagonist could solve the puzzle out before they could progress. Regardless, nice to see some more video from you two. Keep up the great work.
I really hope this isn’t true, man everyone keeps screaming for Kojima to save the franchise, and I don’t doubt he wouldn’t make a good game, but I’d prefer to see the old Team Silent reunite to make a game if they ever tried to revive the series. At this point though it feels like it’s too late.
The Medium's a horror game in name only. Sure, there's some freaky looking environments I guess, but almost nothing can hurt you so why should you be afraid? Even SH: Shattered Memories had a greater sense of tension and urgency than The Medium.
@@vfxninja5503 And apparently that boring pile of shit received overwhelming positive reviews on Steam? Seems like you're the minority here. Though maybe you have a point, what horror game that you think is good? Just for comparison.
I'm only a few mins in, but really hope this isn't true. I've been wildly disappointed by Bloober Team. PT was an incredible masterpiece and Silent Hills was going to be created by true masters of their crafts. To give it to Bloober Team would be such a waste. They make the most tepid, mediocre horror ever. Layers of Fear has such a fantastic premise, but it's so generic and boring. Also, yes, it does rip off P.T. in super blatant and uncool ways, plus the patent bullshit. Bob's video about it is great. Observer was one of the dullest games I've ever played. It's nothing but wandering halls, standing in front of doors motionless listening to people talk, and the scanning is super frustrating.I haven't played The Medium but from the comments, it sounds like it's par for the course for Bloober. i think they're good at coming up with interesting concepts, but garbage at execution, tension and fear. Seriously, give it to Red Candle!!
@@TheKnuckmin As disappointing as the recent Amnesia game is, I think Frictional would be a million times better than Bloober Team. Even a flawed Frictional game still managed to at least retain some genuine scares and body horror, along with some solid atmosphere.
This is so true. People nowadays are happy for any SH rumor but they forget it has to be done by the right team. If we are going to get another trash entry in the series I would be much happier if they let it RIP.
You shouldn't be saying that they're creating Silent Hills whent that game will never get made unless Kojima and Konami work something out. But yeah, I think Bloober Team is certainly not the best choice.
If this theory is correct then I think Masahiro Ito might change their mind. He'll definitely take part in helping with story for that game. He was a core member of Team Silent, I think he himself mentioned on Twitter that their whole team was discussing the plot and making new ideas. If he'd share that experience and his understanding of what Silent Hill is with Bloober Team then I think they might nail it!
Still quite the mountain for Bloober though, they'll have to get comfortable with being uncomfortable and stressing over game development. They've been making games on easy mode this whole time and if they're doing that, they'd suddenly be jumping into hard mode.
Hey there, great debate (shoot me), but as native Pole I feel I need to add some some context to what have you said. The "religious-right" part about us is half-correct. While it holds true for older generations of polish citizens, most of younger demographics is unbelieving. Church has been been holding strong position here since the end of World War II, expecially after communists took over, but due to some recent political and cultural events its position of power is weakening and its decline is currently biggest in Europe. Blooper Team, which consist of younger people, have even put some anty-religious and anty-government (current government in Poland proclaims to be very religious) messages in Medium. Also there is no "glorification" of mental illness in our culture. TL;DR - It's not a cultural thing, it's just writers being hacks.
As someone who is polish and lives in Poland and is a lifelong Silent Hill fan and faces some mental issues since childhood (anxiety and depression) I feel like I tick all the boxes to comment on statements made about my home country :) I feel like there is still some stigma in polish society when it comes to mental health, but I see it mostly in smaller towns and countryside's. In bigger metropolitan areas, like Wroclaw where I live we have around 200 or so mental healthcare professionals that you can see if you need therapy. So I wouldn't say that we live in mental dark ages where people who struggle with depression are burned on the stake. I would say that taking our history into account, trauma and suffering is something that some people see as "badge of honor". But that outdated view is slowly being eradicated. And that whole.....far right thing. Poland comes from 50 years of living under USSR, so some people have not so good view of any socially left leaning ideas. But that shows how differently we view these things in Europe, because we still have free healthcare and our currently ruling right wing party came into power by just giving money to poor people.....Which I know will be an alien idea to any american who reads this :P Right wing party that comes to power by buying votes from poorest people :D So I would say that we are ruled by ideological right wing party, who is all about God, patriotism and all that stuff. But approval polls show that polish society is split down the middle when it comes to the ruling party. Sadly last year they pushed through a law that bans abortion. This created a gigantic wave of protests, fights with police. They started to antagonize LGBTQ community. Another wave of protests. So I would say that we are not a far right country. We're just split between right and left and right is in power. For now at least.
YEH! @voidburger you're using your profile pic I drew for other stuff. Made my day to see that gritty little beef sandwich on a TGD video! Gosh, I really wish the Bloober team could bring in folks like you two to advise on the game... Like if they don't want SH fans to shit on it, they need to bring in fans with credibility to consult on stuff like the story. (I realize how naive this sounds... and I'm okay with that)
I don’t get the “they make gorgeous games” comment because the three games of there’s I’ve played-Observer, Blair Witch, and The Medium-look really crusty and not always on purpose.
Their clunky attempts at scares and stealth have a real unity horror game feel to them. They're like a slightly better polished shovel ware game that thinks it's really a masterpiece of storytelling.
Completely hard disagree on that one. That's probably the only thing they do relatively well. The medium is gorgeous and they nailed the old silent hill camera style and atmosphere in the medium. Layers of fear was actually really beautiful imo with the way the room warps. The same goes for Observers vibe and art direction. Blair witch... That one I'll give you. I still wouldn't call it crusty. Just generic.
@@Hambo325 I think they have can have a strong sense of direction. But fidelity-wise the games don't look all that great. There is always something off about them.
I'm really happy to see you guy's upload a new video! And a long one at that! I've rewatched them all many times so it was exciting to get this notification!
I’ve been following this channel since Senior Year of high school. I’ve graduated from college and still hopeful as you all are for the next Silent Hill to be great.
Recently played Layers of Fear and got nothing but PT flashbacks. The controls are practically the same. I will say this though, they can take they’re time and bring in the scares slowly. It’s not all in your face jumpscares. So I guess I am looking forward to this for that reason.
@Anteros Auditore It's not, it's an objectively bad game with "gameplay" being "look at thing, look at more things, have dialogues get spoken at you, not to you, AT you, repeat". If you meant it was a good story? Yeah, I can why in an age of Marvel films made for literal dumb babies, that are enjoyed by adults in their 30's with extreme arrested development, the story might sound good. It isn't. At all. But I can see it ;)
@@rebornkusabi7264 Okay wait how on earth can it be objectively bad? For the most part it seems to have good reviews, I haven’t played it so I can’t say if it’s good or not. But you assume your opinion is objective even though it really isn’t. Anteros likes it so you can’t really go and say it’s objectively bad lol comes off as pretentious, man.
Your point at 58:15 onward really strikes a nerve with me. That's part of why I don't play games anywhere NEAR as much as I used to. I miss games that were done when you got it.
I spent a good amount on Final Fantasy 15's deluxe edition only for it to be re-released a year later as the Royal Edition, and half the online events like the Assassins Creed festival I didn't even know about until it was over. Squeenix kinda lost my respect that day. I'm getting tired of half-done games being released just so you can pile DLC and limited time stuff.
@@necroarcanistxiii Personally, I skipped 13-15, but mostly because those were released when the DLC era was starting to take hold, and I lost interest in gaming more or less. I bet I played through more games in 2004 than I did from 2007-2020. That said I did pick up FF15 Royal Edition last month I think it was, for $10, physical copy at that. I figure at that price I certainly can't be upset, and now that I finally have time for gaming during the winters... Also, would it change your opinion of SE if they told you up front, "hey, this game is gonna take a while for us to finish, here's what we have for now." as is the case with FF7R? I feel it's more honest, and I can respect that. The dlc for that game (can't speak for the Yuffie bits, because they'd have to release the PS5 first, haha), was mostly pointless, and I'm ok with pointless dlc. I certainly don't feel I missed anything by not using Carbuncle as a summon.
@@spoogie35 I border on the hardcore completionist side, so not being able to access any part of anything due to being locked behind DLC, alternate editions, outdated versions, or even multiplayer-exclusive content (Like FF Tactics' ultimate weapons) is something that really grinds some gears.
@@necroarcanistxiii Ahh, I could see that being a problem then. I just don't game nearly as much as I once did, so by the time I get around to buying a "new" game, it's often a few years old and includes all the dlc. Shame it ever had to come to that, but it's the best approach for me. And since when is FF Tactics a multiplayer game? I played it on PS1, have (but haven't played yet) the PSP version, but I don't recall there ever being multiplayer?
@@spoogie35 The War of the Lions remake has 2 multiplayer modes, a head-to-head Melee and co-op Rendevous. (I kinda misremembered which version I was referring to when I mentioned the multiplayer content :p) But yeah, a lot of the Ultimate Weapons in WotL are exclusive to the Multiplayer modes as random rewards. However, in the iOS version of the remake, the weapons can be bought from a Poacher's Den after beating the main game. Honestly, if I was a developer, I would've done that from the beginning. It doesn't help either that finding someone to play a PSP game these days is hard enough. It hasn't received any new games since 2016 to keep it relevant, even the online store having been shut down in July this year. (Tho apparently you can still download PSP titles on PS3 and Vita)
13:00 Person from Poland speaking. NO, we don't think like that in general. It's a country with many problems, sure, but common people are perfectly normal and generally kind folks with decent empathy levels. Personally, I don't know even one person who would demonize a mentally ill person, and there are many, many people who are affected by mental issues in one way or another, just like anywhere else. It's also not some sort of cult country that will ostracize others for mental problems. Not that there is anything wrong with being a religious country (although I really wouldn't say that about Poland - maybe grandparents' generation, but not at all nowadays?), but everyone tries to think for themselves, just like in most (if not all) other places. Once again, though, I'm purposefully speaking of common, everyday folks that are just trying to live their lives in peace and be kind to others. Any disgusting people who yell loudly and are the most visible in media or elsewhere, sharing toxicity and discriminating against others are NOT what common people here are actually like. So while I haven't any of Bloober's games yet, I don't think many Polish people would be happy about the Medium's narrative... (Edit: And sorry if this sounded a bit emotional, but it's hurtful when people tend to think Poland is just some mentally-stuck country with no empathy... While I would risk saying that people here are actually too empathethic, at times, always hurt because of the care and heart they show to others (and get kicked in the teeth afterwards as thanks). We might be poor, we might be kicked in our asses way too many times, we might have a lot of toxic people in media, but regular people are really sweet and awfully miserable because of that on a regular basis. Eh...).
I kinda feel like if they do make this Silent Hill game, it’ll fully just be like watered down Resident Evil 7, cause that’s what’s popular and that’ll sell
@@brabiz67 That’s true I shouldn’t have been as pessimistic, I personally would love a Silent Hill game that had the same kind of quality and gameplay as RE7, I would play the shit out of that haha
A quick review of Bloober Team's games: -Layers of Fear: bad -Layers of Fear 2: really bad -Observer: okay-ish -Blair Witch: generic -The Medium: a huge disappointment So... I hope they're NOT making a new Silent Hill game!
Oh fuck no. If after all these years Bloober is the one in charge of reviving the franchise im going to kill Konami. Bloober has yet to make a good game, The Medium, Layers of Fear and Observer are all average at best, and Blair Witch is straight up bad. The Medium, which is the closest thing to Silent Hill they've made is a mess of a game that forgets that its supposed to be a horror game (It has one fucking jumpscare and thats literally it). The Medium is the proof that they couldnt handle a bigger IP like Silent Hill. We've had several mid Silent Hill games but the game that revives the franchise should be something outstanding and that pushes forward what the series stated. Bloober Team can't do that.
I first played silent hill in 2018. I’ve played almost every games since. I am lucky enough to own a PS4 with pt but I want to know what it feels like to look forward to a new silent hill. Maybe one day I’ll get the chance be be excited over something that actually exists.
On the subject of trigger warnings. They do not help people who suffer from traumatic mental injury. Findings in Cognitive Behavioral Therapy have shown that the only way for people to recover is by allowing the individual to process triggering events as they occur. Providing warnings for potential triggers only encourages stressful rumination and avoidance behavior.
counterpoint: most game devs are not competent enough to portray traumatic issues properly and even people who do not suffer from trauma should be warned of content that includes this kind of horseshit
i meaannnn, aesthetics is one of the most important parts to make something scary. Junji Ito's stories are the most famous horror mangas in japan and his mangas are focused on how something looks.
Personally, I didn’t think that there were thoroughly discussed reasons for Bloober Teams failure to provid a good story, but I can say that after playing Blair Witch, the only thing that disturbed me was how carelessly they handled telling a story about PTSD and how bored I was. I’m glad I heard that other people felt as unmoved by such a poorly executed story. As for a dream team for a Silent Hill game, I’d encourage a team of devoted indie devs, like Akuma Kira.
It would never happen for MANY reasons, but I'd be interested in a smaller-scale Silent Hill game from a micro-indie developer like Kitty Horroshow, Modus Interactive, or whoever made LUCAH: Born of a Dream.
I just found this channel a few days ago and assumed it was abandoned due to the last upload being almost a year and a half ago. Glad to see I was wrong
@@Blackgriffonphoenixg It fucking sucks it had such great names attached to it. Could've been such a great game. There was rumors about a silent hills revival and the dude is still saying that its real but I highly doubt it. Tho if it does happen i'll lose my shit
So like... what can we all actually do to help ensure that the story of a Bloober team Silent Hill isn't bland, insulting, offensive and is instead creepy, thought-provoking, lasting, and respectful to the intelligence of the player. Like what did Sonic fans do to force a studio to totally rework a movie's CGI? I guess they had fuel in that everyone online was memeing on the look of the movie that wasn't just Sonic fans. All I can think of is would be once its official they're working on it (or even before) just pinging their marketing/PR team with pleas of getting feedback from fans on what the story needs to have or bringing in people to properly consult on what won't work with what they're writing. It all feels hopeless though. They'll just do what they're going to do because there is no sign their product won't sell based on what they've accomplished so far. But is it so hard to ask that they focus a good amount of their resources on making a good story or at least a competent story that nails the tone of SH2? Why can't we have nice things?
Final comment. And I'm not pointlessly hating either- they DO have a game of theirs I legitimately liked: Observer. Which at first seems like a Blade Runner homage but radically becomes its own thing after the hour mark. On top of that, while the writing isn't anything to write home about, Rutger Hauer's acting pretty much elevates it enough to be engaging throughout with a sense of solemn gravitas their games normally miss. On top of that, I felt the setting it went with actually worked to the companies strengths, ie crazy visuals being a by-product of crazy neuromancy.
I'm a relatively new Silent Hill fan (I first played through the first three about three years ago and 4 one year ago) so the idea of a new Silent Hill game, no matter how good or bad it turns out, really excited me. Then I played through and finished Homecoming yesterday and now I think the series should stay dead. That feeling could change, I'm still feeling raw about Homecoming and there's a chance that Shattered Memories and Downpour could change my mind, but I don't trust Konami at all to choose the right team for the project. That said, I would love it if Red Candle games got a hold of the series.
Dear Konami. Realize this is a mistake and cancel it. The problem is not that Bloober Team had a few rough patches, it's that they are inherently nonchalant about what they do, or too immature on a literary level, to see that what they're creating isn't good art. It started with Layers of Fear copying PT and filling it with B-movie tropes with no thematic core, but it kept going from there with mediocre concepts and mediocre execution. The ideas just aren't there, but they keep pushing ahead with them because they THINK these are good ideas. This is a B-tier developer. Competent technically speaking, but creatively they're completely unimpressive, to put it mildly, for anyone that know what a good novel or a good story is, or what a great narrative game experience is.
Bloomber Tean should remake SH1 since everything is already in place for them so it would be harder to mess up, then leave a mainline title up to someone else like this other Japanese Studio or something.
If this is true, I'm not optimistic in any way for what will come out of this. I'm WAY more interested in the new horror game Keichiro Toyama, the grand daddy of Silent Hill 1 and the Siren series is making! Look up "Bokeh Game Studio" on TH-cam and check out the concept art. It's way more Silent Hill than anything Bloober would be able to put out
Capcom or Kojima Productions is who I'd pick for Silent Hill. Preferably Kojima since he was already working on Silent Hills. And they need to bring Junji Ito back!
Maybe they were going with a Pyramid Head thing by having the whole monster on display? But the difference is that Pyramid Head has unknown motives for most of the game.
Never played any bloober game so maybe I'm not grasping how bad of a situation this is in comparison to everyone else, but I imagine this is like when we were about to get a really good Ghostbusters 3 but some higher up made sure it didn't happen and now it can never happen, and the aftermath of this is that we did get a new Ghostbusters, but it wasn't very good, and I think that's what this is gonna be like.
This is something I’ve been fearing for a while now. Now that I know other people also saw these signs is making me more worried. Also I really don’t think the west portrays trauma and mental illness any better than Poland. The Canadian game Dead by Daylight just revealed TODAY that one of their characters, the Nurse, is a eugenicist.
To be fair, the Nurse is a Killer, an Antagonist - she's not supposed to be relatable and her actions are meant to be horrible. If you're appaled by her reasoning why she kills, the Devs achieved what they wanted to. You could argue that it may not be done in a tasteful way (I haven't seen the Archive), but if I remember her backstory correctly, it pretty much fits for her that she would suffer some kind of mental break that results in her thinking that the Pembroke Patients are better off dead. As I've said, I haven't seen the archive so I can't say how tonedeaf it is, but an Antagonist is, after all, meant to hold views the regular person would never support. I mean, otherwise it's like claiming, anyone who plays Freddy Krüger or likes the Nightmare on Elm Street-Movies supports pedophilia.
Sorry to dig this up again, but I've just seen what the Nurse-Tome was really about and I have to revise my comment a bit, so people that agreed with my initial statement might see where I was wrong. I still stand by the argument, that a villain should be allowed to have absolutely abhorrent views. No change there. Where I was wrong was in assuming, that the Tome displayed how Sally reached the mental break - that was mentioned in her original background - and basically "snapped" after 20 years of witnessing every horror and vile thing done to the patients. (and potential abuse by her colleague) Which would result in the massacre, where she killed the patients as a misguided act of mercy, maybe somehow justifying it by seeing the patients as sick dogs, that are better off being put down. (where then the eugenics-accusations would come from) As I've said, that was what I was assuming. And I really should stop assuming things. I didn't anticipate that the Tome would portray Sally as an actual, full on eugenicist, who despises her patients solely based on a pseudo-science and false sense of superiority. Which doesn't make much sense for her original character, as her backstory paints her as an emotional character that just couldn't take the mental toll of working in the asylum anymore - not some wannabe-scientist, that justifies her murders because she wants to "cleanse the genepool". Also a supposed leak of the full story seems to indicate that the Nurse's story was meant as a criticism of eugenics and the way patients were treated in the 1920s. So if someone writes a story that is meant as a criticism of something but instead make it seem like they endorse it, I would pretty much say it's tonedeaf and/or made in poor taste.
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Sharing this with a lot of people now that they announced the remake today.
Back again, never forget the tragedy that is P.T.
Amen
Greetings from the future. We didnt.
it not a tragedy. it a master piece, a puzzle and future
@@darthceasar3690 But it is a tragedy that it got canceled.
can't wait for Troy Baker to come back and ham it up as Pyramid Head 2
Trauma Boogaloo?
@Dman Sneed [Formerly Chuck’s] "looked at meee, I'm Troy Baker!"
- Troy Baker
I like how "The Medium is released" is on the list of "suspicious events"
I'm still not convinced it's a real game.
@@jjjjasonnnn it’s not. It’s an 8 hour tech demo
@@nathanielhaven3453 It's a get-rich-quick scam on Silent Hill fans.
Correction:
It is a spit in the FACE of Silent Hill fans.
They not only deliberately stole massive elements, story beats, themes and ideas from Silent Hill, BUT THEY PATENTED SOME OF THEM SO THAT OTHER COMPANIES CAN'T USE THEM.
Such as the idea of an "other world". You know, that thing Silent Hill games are notoriously well known for? Bloober Team fucking put a copy right on that and gleefully told everyone "Other companies won't be able to use these ideas". And the thing is, their ENTIRE library of games is LITERALLY based around copy pasting ideas from other companies. Everything before Layers of Fear was a copy paste of something else. Layers of Fear was a copy paste of P.T. Observer is JUST Bladerunner. And The Medium? Fucking hell.
I don't believe in divinity, but I am praying to god right now that this all does just turn out to be rumors.
It would be like the directors of those cheap, shitty Disney movie knockoffs getting the actual rights to the movies they are plagiarising.
@@Impalingthorn Well, how do you feel now? curious.
At first I was 'Ooo, Silent Hill', but then I remembered who Bloober is.
They'd probably have GUN publish it as the cherry on the shit sundae.
Chill my dude, they are looking for a combat programmer so this time it won't be a walking simulator!
@@owouwu2587 Does that mean this rumor is probably false? Because there's no way in Hell anyone who thought collaborating with GUN Media was a good idea is getting my money. Not after the F13 travesty.
@@owouwu2587 they addressed in the video that walking simulators aren't bad I'd done right.....
@@owouwu2587 :( sooo scaryyy
"Oh boy! I sure hope Silent Hill comes back one day!"
*Money's paw curls*
Seeing a video from you guys in my notification box was a pleasant surprise this morning
Like watching a family member come back for Christmas
Indeed
yep certainly
If they give Bloober Silent Hill, I'm unironically gonna be heartbroken.
Edit: 💔
i never played a silent hill game (well i did the room but really not for much) and i would fn hate if they were the developers
@@arijan-itanmuratovic7495 same i actually got into it through P.T. so not seeing hideo on this is going to throw me off
Same. Read that Supermassive was passed up. Honestly wouldve taken a Supermassive super cinematic choice based Silent Hill over a mediocre failed story Silent Hill that Bloober could make. Bloober just has nothing unique to their style. They consistently drop the ball on depictions of mental illness or a good story in general.
But also theres hope because the rumors were that TWO Silent Hill games are in the works and one is handled by Sony which started in 2019. This Bloober stuff wouldve been Konami in 2018.
How do we tell them?
Seeing the title kills most of the hope I had for the game.
Bloober Team's game are rather on better side. I hope they are the one making it because The Layers Of Fear franchise is one of the best horror-thriller I played.
@@yoji287 Well problem here is I am a huge fan of the first 4 Silent Hill games and I have historically HATED Layers of Fear for being a pretentious thrill ride rather than an actual game. Simply put, Blooper Games makes embellished walking simulators, not Survival Horror Games.
@@Impalingthorn Agreed with you 100%, I had no faith in Bloober since their entire career was just making poor walking simulators trying to rip off Silent Hill 2.
As a fan of the original since childhood who had no hope all the way up to release, I saw some of the cutscenes and picked it up day one.
It’s phenomenal.
Bloober Team actually pulled it off somehow. I’m floored by how well they did, and well they managed to capture that true Silent Hill atmosphere on modern hardware with modern graphics-I didn’t think it would even be possible. It doesn’t replace the original and has a somewhat different tone-less ethereal and mystical, more naturalistic and dramatic, but I think that was the right call since they never could have evoked the same magic/feeling of the original how it was in 2001. Give it a chance, friend. This is the first time I’ve felt any hope for the series since PT.
Seeing the title
„Huh, who‘s Bloober Team?“
0:36 - 0:42
„oh nooooooo“
Layers of Fear is the posterchild for bad P.T ripoffs. Why would anyone pick those guys to work on the genuine article?
@@magnificmango336 they're the best of the bad ripoffs
I didn't think I'd get the joke even after clicking the timestamp.
I do. :(
@@magnificmango336 Because Konami doen't care about its IPs. They only want money and Bloober can givem that.
Oh God. I wish I lived in the timeline where Kojima made this game.
This is basically how I've felt about every DCCU movie: I want to enjoy it, bit it really seems like it's gonna be bad...
James Gunn Suicide Squad, Joker, you at least get fed a few gems here and there.
Bloober Team should work on applying for retail positions, I cant imagine how obnoxious a SH game by them would be
UPDATE: okay they did an alright job coloring in the lines, games fine
Hackneyed writing, lousy pacing, and little game play, and that's the good parts!
The medium was amazing
You definitely never played a silent hill game if you think that there are no obnoxious part in those games lol
Are you sure?
me, a fool, distracted: let me swipe this notification away im busy rn-WAIT WAS THAT GRATE DEBATE
I haven’t heard such an entertaining, well researched, and engaging group of gaming personalities since the Let’s Fight A Boss podcast gang. Seriously, after watching y’alls respective channels today for their streams and video essays I’m really wishing y’all had your own podcast. Not complaining though! I’m already a fan of what y’all do! Please keep making dope shit, you two👌🏽👌🏽
Silent Hill is already dead. Konami is just letting Bloober screw its corpse.
You thought 😁
Glad to see you all back. I still haven't forgotten the tragedy of the to be master piece PT. Hopefully a new Silent Hill will be interesting but idk if it'll ever live up to what PT was going to be.
This video is all I could think of when the recent announcement came. Saw their logo and did a big old sigh
This aged well
Like fine wine 😂
Oh really? Did it?
I can also understand hesitation about Bloober team trying to create a new Silent Hill game based on where they currently seem to be experience-wise. This will end up being the first time they've attempted a game with combat, and I can't imagine that going too well..... Having seen how they've treated the in-game third-person perspective and their level of animation regarding human faces and forms in cut scenes, they still seem a bit amateur in those categories...
Yeeeeah....... I could see this team going hardcore edgy with the storyline and then also providing very clunky gameplay topped with faulty and buggy combat... and also some not great cut scenes in terms of animation...
This is a team that seems like it still has a lot more maturing to do before it can tackle a behemoth franchise like Silent Hill...
I don't want another silent hill made by a western company after what happened to 7th gen games i prefer that konami just let die the franchise already
I hope some of ur fears have been lifted lol
I just want a game to make me sad and scared at the same time again
And if they fuck up Silent Hill, then the franchise is probably dead for good.
Man, the Medium was rough; I watched SuperGreatFriend's playthrough and at one point, he organically solved one of the puzzles, then went back to solve it, only to get no response because he hadn't interacted with each clue, in order, so that the protagonist could solve the puzzle out before they could progress.
Regardless, nice to see some more video from you two. Keep up the great work.
Two minutes in and I'm already angry.
Woah Ebeeto you came back! I remember your Hitman videos! How you doing Ebeeto? Also are you back for real????
Also, no I am not going to ask about the Hitman Walkthrough again cause youre still working on it yes?
@@grill6411 as I said, its an old joke that I know wouldnt get referred these days, so.........yeah.
Y’all called it 💯👍🏾 had comeback show respect the trailer just dropped
I really hope this isn’t true, man everyone keeps screaming for Kojima to save the franchise, and I don’t doubt he wouldn’t make a good game, but I’d prefer to see the old Team Silent reunite to make a game if they ever tried to revive the series. At this point though it feels like it’s too late.
Well, this video aged beautifully.
I never thought I’d see this in my notifications again... thank you for the great content once again, even after all this time.
Ohohoho. What a shitty day. Alternating sadness and anger right now. Good luck guys.
Another western haunted-house game about psychology... not a psychological horror.
The Medium's a horror game in name only. Sure, there's some freaky looking environments I guess, but almost nothing can hurt you so why should you be afraid? Even SH: Shattered Memories had a greater sense of tension and urgency than The Medium.
@@vfxninja5503 And apparently that boring pile of shit received overwhelming positive reviews on Steam? Seems like you're the minority here.
Though maybe you have a point, what horror game that you think is good? Just for comparison.
@@vfxninja5503 "I hate you"
Oh, boy, did you pick a weird reason to hate someone.
Sorry he understands and appreciates art?
@@vfxninja5503 saying 4 was good? CUT take your ass seriously anymore 🤣
@@vfxninja5503 You hate someone for...... enjoying a supposedly bad game.
I didn't like Soma or The Medium either, but damn. You're a grown man?
I'm only a few mins in, but really hope this isn't true. I've been wildly disappointed by Bloober Team. PT was an incredible masterpiece and Silent Hills was going to be created by true masters of their crafts. To give it to Bloober Team would be such a waste. They make the most tepid, mediocre horror ever. Layers of Fear has such a fantastic premise, but it's so generic and boring. Also, yes, it does rip off P.T. in super blatant and uncool ways, plus the patent bullshit. Bob's video about it is great. Observer was one of the dullest games I've ever played. It's nothing but wandering halls, standing in front of doors motionless listening to people talk, and the scanning is super frustrating.I haven't played The Medium but from the comments, it sounds like it's par for the course for Bloober. i think they're good at coming up with interesting concepts, but garbage at execution, tension and fear. Seriously, give it to Red Candle!!
couldn't of said it better myself, Blooper Team really isn't a good fit for a silent hill project.
@@TheKnuckmin As disappointing as the recent Amnesia game is, I think Frictional would be a million times better than Bloober Team. Even a flawed Frictional game still managed to at least retain some genuine scares and body horror, along with some solid atmosphere.
This is so true. People nowadays are happy for any SH rumor but they forget it has to be done by the right team. If we are going to get another trash entry in the series I would be much happier if they let it RIP.
You shouldn't be saying that they're creating Silent Hills whent that game will never get made unless Kojima and Konami work something out. But yeah, I think Bloober Team is certainly not the best choice.
@@bluemooninthedaylight8073 And make it a hide and seek game no thanks
If this theory is correct then I think Masahiro Ito might change their mind. He'll definitely take part in helping with story for that game. He was a core member of Team Silent, I think he himself mentioned on Twitter that their whole team was discussing the plot and making new ideas. If he'd share that experience and his understanding of what Silent Hill is with Bloober Team then I think they might nail it!
Still quite the mountain for Bloober though, they'll have to get comfortable with being uncomfortable and stressing over game development. They've been making games on easy mode this whole time and if they're doing that, they'd suddenly be jumping into hard mode.
*"Konami Digital Entertainment and Bloober Team have signed a strategic cooperation agreement."*
Rejoice folks! Worst timeline incoming!
Incoming?
**Gestures at 2020**
It's already here, bud.
To be fair to this combat designer- the bar for combat in a Silent Hill game is EXTREMELY low. Shouldn’t be hard to just make a passable system.
Hey there, great debate (shoot me), but as native Pole I feel I need to add some some context to what have you said.
The "religious-right" part about us is half-correct. While it holds true for older generations of polish citizens, most of younger demographics is unbelieving. Church has been been holding strong position here since the end of World War II, expecially after communists took over, but due to some recent political and cultural events its position of power is weakening and its decline is currently biggest in Europe.
Blooper Team, which consist of younger people, have even put some anty-religious and anty-government (current government in Poland proclaims to be very religious) messages in Medium.
Also there is no "glorification" of mental illness in our culture.
TL;DR - It's not a cultural thing, it's just writers being hacks.
As someone who is polish and lives in Poland and is a lifelong Silent Hill fan and faces some mental issues since childhood (anxiety and depression) I feel like I tick all the boxes to comment on statements made about my home country :)
I feel like there is still some stigma in polish society when it comes to mental health, but I see it mostly in smaller towns and countryside's. In bigger metropolitan areas, like Wroclaw where I live we have around 200 or so mental healthcare professionals that you can see if you need therapy. So I wouldn't say that we live in mental dark ages where people who struggle with depression are burned on the stake.
I would say that taking our history into account, trauma and suffering is something that some people see as "badge of honor". But that outdated view is slowly being eradicated.
And that whole.....far right thing. Poland comes from 50 years of living under USSR, so some people have not so good view of any socially left leaning ideas. But that shows how differently we view these things in Europe, because we still have free healthcare and our currently ruling right wing party came into power by just giving money to poor people.....Which I know will be an alien idea to any american who reads this :P Right wing party that comes to power by buying votes from poorest people :D
So I would say that we are ruled by ideological right wing party, who is all about God, patriotism and all that stuff. But approval polls show that polish society is split down the middle when it comes to the ruling party. Sadly last year they pushed through a law that bans abortion. This created a gigantic wave of protests, fights with police. They started to antagonize LGBTQ community. Another wave of protests.
So I would say that we are not a far right country. We're just split between right and left and right is in power. For now at least.
So, not lost to older times, but still finding their place in today's.
YEH! @voidburger you're using your profile pic I drew for other stuff. Made my day to see that gritty little beef sandwich on a TGD video!
Gosh, I really wish the Bloober team could bring in folks like you two to advise on the game... Like if they don't want SH fans to shit on it, they need to bring in fans with credibility to consult on stuff like the story. (I realize how naive this sounds... and I'm okay with that)
Thanks for such a thorough conversation! You two have such a fantastic rapport with each other, it's wonderful to listen to.
I don’t get the “they make gorgeous games” comment because the three games of there’s I’ve played-Observer, Blair Witch, and The Medium-look really crusty and not always on purpose.
Their clunky attempts at scares and stealth have a real unity horror game feel to them. They're like a slightly better polished shovel ware game that thinks it's really a masterpiece of storytelling.
Yeah Blair Witch looked really visually fucked and not in a good aesthetic way
Completely hard disagree on that one. That's probably the only thing they do relatively well. The medium is gorgeous and they nailed the old silent hill camera style and atmosphere in the medium. Layers of fear was actually really beautiful imo with the way the room warps. The same goes for Observers vibe and art direction. Blair witch... That one I'll give you. I still wouldn't call it crusty. Just generic.
@@Hambo325 people forget that they're PC could be the crusty mess chugging along to newer games
@@Hambo325 I think they have can have a strong sense of direction. But fidelity-wise the games don't look all that great. There is always something off about them.
I'm really happy to see you guy's upload a new video! And a long one at that! I've rewatched them all many times so it was exciting to get this notification!
The moment I heard "Layers of Fear" all my excitement turned to dejection
I KNOW THAT PFP
tf why everyone here against layers of fear, that's one of my favourite horror games. 2 was absolute ass though
This is a blessing, i saw the whole P.T. Trilogy. Now this? Awesome!
you guys are too good at your work
I’ve been following this channel since Senior Year of high school. I’ve graduated from college and still hopeful as you all are for the next Silent Hill to be great.
Giving Bloober Silent Hill is like throwing pearls before swine.
"Pay to grin"
Bob, how long were you sitting on THAT one??
Recently played Layers of Fear and got nothing but PT flashbacks. The controls are practically the same. I will say this though, they can take they’re time and bring in the scares slowly. It’s not all in your face jumpscares. So I guess I am looking forward to this for that reason.
The deal was " show me that you can make a profit " ? How about "Show me that you can make a good game"
Well its a great game
@Anteros Auditore It's not, it's an objectively bad game with "gameplay" being "look at thing, look at more things, have dialogues get spoken at you, not to you, AT you, repeat". If you meant it was a good story? Yeah, I can why in an age of Marvel films made for literal dumb babies, that are enjoyed by adults in their 30's with extreme arrested development, the story might sound good. It isn't. At all. But I can see it ;)
@@rebornkusabi7264 Okay wait how on earth can it be objectively bad? For the most part it seems to have good reviews, I haven’t played it so I can’t say if it’s good or not.
But you assume your opinion is objective even though it really isn’t. Anteros likes it so you can’t really go and say it’s objectively bad lol comes off as pretentious, man.
This aged like a fine wine. As always great work, TheGrateDebate!
The worst case scenario is actually happening
and I oop
Your point at 58:15 onward really strikes a nerve with me. That's part of why I don't play games anywhere NEAR as much as I used to. I miss games that were done when you got it.
I spent a good amount on Final Fantasy 15's deluxe edition only for it to be re-released a year later as the Royal Edition, and half the online events like the Assassins Creed festival I didn't even know about until it was over. Squeenix kinda lost my respect that day. I'm getting tired of half-done games being released just so you can pile DLC and limited time stuff.
@@necroarcanistxiii Personally, I skipped 13-15, but mostly because those were released when the DLC era was starting to take hold, and I lost interest in gaming more or less. I bet I played through more games in 2004 than I did from 2007-2020.
That said I did pick up FF15 Royal Edition last month I think it was, for $10, physical copy at that. I figure at that price I certainly can't be upset, and now that I finally have time for gaming during the winters...
Also, would it change your opinion of SE if they told you up front, "hey, this game is gonna take a while for us to finish, here's what we have for now." as is the case with FF7R? I feel it's more honest, and I can respect that. The dlc for that game (can't speak for the Yuffie bits, because they'd have to release the PS5 first, haha), was mostly pointless, and I'm ok with pointless dlc. I certainly don't feel I missed anything by not using Carbuncle as a summon.
@@spoogie35 I border on the hardcore completionist side, so not being able to access any part of anything due to being locked behind DLC, alternate editions, outdated versions, or even multiplayer-exclusive content (Like FF Tactics' ultimate weapons) is something that really grinds some gears.
@@necroarcanistxiii Ahh, I could see that being a problem then. I just don't game nearly as much as I once did, so by the time I get around to buying a "new" game, it's often a few years old and includes all the dlc. Shame it ever had to come to that, but it's the best approach for me.
And since when is FF Tactics a multiplayer game? I played it on PS1, have (but haven't played yet) the PSP version, but I don't recall there ever being multiplayer?
@@spoogie35 The War of the Lions remake has 2 multiplayer modes, a head-to-head Melee and co-op Rendevous. (I kinda misremembered which version I was referring to when I mentioned the multiplayer content :p)
But yeah, a lot of the Ultimate Weapons in WotL are exclusive to the Multiplayer modes as random rewards. However, in the iOS version of the remake, the weapons can be bought from a Poacher's Den after beating the main game. Honestly, if I was a developer, I would've done that from the beginning.
It doesn't help either that finding someone to play a PSP game these days is hard enough. It hasn't received any new games since 2016 to keep it relevant, even the online store having been shut down in July this year. (Tho apparently you can still download PSP titles on PS3 and Vita)
13:00 Person from Poland speaking. NO, we don't think like that in general. It's a country with many problems, sure, but common people are perfectly normal and generally kind folks with decent empathy levels. Personally, I don't know even one person who would demonize a mentally ill person, and there are many, many people who are affected by mental issues in one way or another, just like anywhere else. It's also not some sort of cult country that will ostracize others for mental problems. Not that there is anything wrong with being a religious country (although I really wouldn't say that about Poland - maybe grandparents' generation, but not at all nowadays?), but everyone tries to think for themselves, just like in most (if not all) other places.
Once again, though, I'm purposefully speaking of common, everyday folks that are just trying to live their lives in peace and be kind to others. Any disgusting people who yell loudly and are the most visible in media or elsewhere, sharing toxicity and discriminating against others are NOT what common people here are actually like.
So while I haven't any of Bloober's games yet, I don't think many Polish people would be happy about the Medium's narrative...
(Edit: And sorry if this sounded a bit emotional, but it's hurtful when people tend to think Poland is just some mentally-stuck country with no empathy... While I would risk saying that people here are actually too empathethic, at times, always hurt because of the care and heart they show to others (and get kicked in the teeth afterwards as thanks). We might be poor, we might be kicked in our asses way too many times, we might have a lot of toxic people in media, but regular people are really sweet and awfully miserable because of that on a regular basis. Eh...).
And one more thing - we are NOT an Eastern Europe country! :P
@@JotoheKian seriously?
I wanna make a parody game of the medium to call them out on that patent
I have to say a big well done to you on this. It seems like you were spot on with this prediction!
YOU'VE DOOMED US ALL.
🤡
I kinda feel like if they do make this Silent Hill game, it’ll fully just be like watered down Resident Evil 7, cause that’s what’s popular and that’ll sell
Or it’ll be on par with it, which would be cool. I’m going to save my hype and disdain once there’s more info.
@@brabiz67 That’s true I shouldn’t have been as pessimistic, I personally would love a Silent Hill game that had the same kind of quality and gameplay as RE7, I would play the shit out of that haha
A quick review of Bloober Team's games:
-Layers of Fear: bad
-Layers of Fear 2: really bad
-Observer: okay-ish
-Blair Witch: generic
-The Medium: a huge disappointment
So... I hope they're NOT making a new Silent Hill game!
Oh fuck no. If after all these years Bloober is the one in charge of reviving the franchise im going to kill Konami. Bloober has yet to make a good game, The Medium, Layers of Fear and Observer are all average at best, and Blair Witch is straight up bad. The Medium, which is the closest thing to Silent Hill they've made is a mess of a game that forgets that its supposed to be a horror game (It has one fucking jumpscare and thats literally it). The Medium is the proof that they couldnt handle a bigger IP like Silent Hill. We've had several mid Silent Hill games but the game that revives the franchise should be something outstanding and that pushes forward what the series stated. Bloober Team can't do that.
Oh god Bob's gonna explode
I first played silent hill in 2018. I’ve played almost every games since. I am lucky enough to own a PS4 with pt but I want to know what it feels like to look forward to a new silent hill. Maybe one day I’ll get the chance be be excited over something that actually exists.
On the subject of trigger warnings. They do not help people who suffer from traumatic mental injury. Findings in Cognitive Behavioral Therapy have shown that the only way for people to recover is by allowing the individual to process triggering events as they occur. Providing warnings for potential triggers only encourages stressful rumination and avoidance behavior.
counterpoint: most game devs are not competent enough to portray traumatic issues properly and even people who do not suffer from trauma should be warned of content that includes this kind of horseshit
Also, I really don’t any of our artistic decisions to be governed by CBT, that’s weird as heck.
i meaannnn, aesthetics is one of the most important parts to make something scary. Junji Ito's stories are the most famous horror mangas in japan and his mangas are focused on how something looks.
:/ Despite the bad graphics I still get spooked by PS1 horror games. The most important thing in horror is building suspense.
Ambiance and overall art direction.
Personally, I didn’t think that there were thoroughly discussed reasons for Bloober Teams failure to provid a good story, but I can say that after playing Blair Witch, the only thing that disturbed me was how carelessly they handled telling a story about PTSD and how bored I was. I’m glad I heard that other people felt as unmoved by such a poorly executed story.
As for a dream team for a Silent Hill game, I’d encourage a team of devoted indie devs, like Akuma Kira.
This will be exploding all over the internet any second now LOL 🤣
It would never happen for MANY reasons, but I'd be interested in a smaller-scale Silent Hill game from a micro-indie developer like Kitty Horroshow, Modus Interactive, or whoever made LUCAH: Born of a Dream.
R.I.P. P.T. Silent Hills never forgotten but those “others” at KONAMI just had to pull the plug.
I just found this channel a few days ago and assumed it was abandoned due to the last upload being almost a year and a half ago. Glad to see I was wrong
Just saw you guys uploaded and ran around my house finding blankets, food and a warm drink. Alright i'm ready
Omg- I’ve been waiting for this. I love your analysis on PT
My dream Silent Hill dev team is Kojima Productions
All of us is.
Mine is reunited Team Silent
they even planned on having JUNJI FUCKING ITO do monster design.
fr bro they cancel that and instead are giving us a game by bloober team
@@Blackgriffonphoenixg It fucking sucks it had such great names attached to it. Could've been such a great game. There was rumors about a silent hills revival and the dude is still saying that its real but I highly doubt it. Tho if it does happen i'll lose my shit
I think I'd honestly prefer Vatra Games over Bloober team.... lets hope they hire a ton of better designers and writers for this!
Sioent Hill Downpour isnt a scary Silent Hill game but boy its scarier than anything Bloober has put out.
So like... what can we all actually do to help ensure that the story of a Bloober team Silent Hill isn't bland, insulting, offensive and is instead creepy, thought-provoking, lasting, and respectful to the intelligence of the player.
Like what did Sonic fans do to force a studio to totally rework a movie's CGI? I guess they had fuel in that everyone online was memeing on the look of the movie that wasn't just Sonic fans.
All I can think of is would be once its official they're working on it (or even before) just pinging their marketing/PR team with pleas of getting feedback from fans on what the story needs to have or bringing in people to properly consult on what won't work with what they're writing.
It all feels hopeless though. They'll just do what they're going to do because there is no sign their product won't sell based on what they've accomplished so far. But is it so hard to ask that they focus a good amount of their resources on making a good story or at least a competent story that nails the tone of SH2? Why can't we have nice things?
Final comment.
And I'm not pointlessly hating either- they DO have a game of theirs I legitimately liked: Observer. Which at first seems like a Blade Runner homage but radically becomes its own thing after the hour mark. On top of that, while the writing isn't anything to write home about, Rutger Hauer's acting pretty much elevates it enough to be engaging throughout with a sense of solemn gravitas their games normally miss. On top of that, I felt the setting it went with actually worked to the companies strengths, ie crazy visuals being a by-product of crazy neuromancy.
Loved your videos on PT and subscribed, great to see you uploading again after so long!
I sincerely appreciate the TW right at the front.
It's helpful to know what I'm in for...
I'm a relatively new Silent Hill fan (I first played through the first three about three years ago and 4 one year ago) so the idea of a new Silent Hill game, no matter how good or bad it turns out, really excited me. Then I played through and finished Homecoming yesterday and now I think the series should stay dead. That feeling could change, I'm still feeling raw about Homecoming and there's a chance that Shattered Memories and Downpour could change my mind, but I don't trust Konami at all to choose the right team for the project.
That said, I would love it if Red Candle games got a hold of the series.
Downpour was done dirty by big K. The team understood more about the theming of a Silent Hill game only to get it dealt a kick in the balls.
Not gatekeepy at all, Bloober makes shite games
Dear Konami. Realize this is a mistake and cancel it.
The problem is not that Bloober Team had a few rough patches, it's that they are inherently nonchalant about what they do, or too immature on a literary level, to see that what they're creating isn't good art. It started with Layers of Fear copying PT and filling it with B-movie tropes with no thematic core, but it kept going from there with mediocre concepts and mediocre execution. The ideas just aren't there, but they keep pushing ahead with them because they THINK these are good ideas. This is a B-tier developer. Competent technically speaking, but creatively they're completely unimpressive, to put it mildly, for anyone that know what a good novel or a good story is, or what a great narrative game experience is.
Bloomber Tean should remake SH1 since everything is already in place for them so it would be harder to mess up, then leave a mainline title up to someone else like this other Japanese Studio or something.
always great to see a new video from you guys :)
If this is true, I'm not optimistic in any way for what will come out of this. I'm WAY more interested in the new horror game Keichiro Toyama, the grand daddy of Silent Hill 1 and the Siren series is making! Look up "Bokeh Game Studio" on TH-cam and check out the concept art. It's way more Silent Hill than anything Bloober would be able to put out
You guys were the first people to have the best breakdowns of PT...congrats on that
Thank you! Its been awhile and this was a fun listen.
No way, I was just watching all of the videos on this channel again, crazy
massive pog for thegratedebate notification
Watched your last video yesterday, then you post for this first time in so long. Crazy
No one remembers the great shitshow that was "The Sadness"? Cause I do.
LOL Layers of my ass... it's that team. How can Ito even agree to being seen with them?
Never clicked so fast in my life.
same ! lol
i hadn't seen pics of Itoh recently but dang that hair is fabulous
Capcom or Kojima Productions is who I'd pick for Silent Hill. Preferably Kojima since he was already working on Silent Hills. And they need to bring Junji Ito back!
Only way that would happen is if Konami let go of the franchise
Maybe they were going with a Pyramid Head thing by having the whole monster on display? But the difference is that Pyramid Head has unknown motives for most of the game.
Did VB say that Silent Hill did trigger warnings first??? I thought that was Resident Evil in 1996.
Never played any bloober game so maybe I'm not grasping how bad of a situation this is in comparison to everyone else, but I imagine this is like when we were about to get a really good Ghostbusters 3 but some higher up made sure it didn't happen and now it can never happen, and the aftermath of this is that we did get a new Ghostbusters, but it wasn't very good, and I think that's what this is gonna be like.
This is something I’ve been fearing for a while now. Now that I know other people also saw these signs is making me more worried.
Also I really don’t think the west portrays trauma and mental illness any better than Poland. The Canadian game Dead by Daylight just revealed TODAY that one of their characters, the Nurse, is a eugenicist.
To be fair, the Nurse is a Killer, an Antagonist - she's not supposed to be relatable and her actions are meant to be horrible. If you're appaled by her reasoning why she kills, the Devs achieved what they wanted to.
You could argue that it may not be done in a tasteful way (I haven't seen the Archive), but if I remember her backstory correctly, it pretty much fits for her that she would suffer some kind of mental break that results in her thinking that the Pembroke Patients are better off dead.
As I've said, I haven't seen the archive so I can't say how tonedeaf it is, but an Antagonist is, after all, meant to hold views the regular person would never support. I mean, otherwise it's like claiming, anyone who plays Freddy Krüger or likes the Nightmare on Elm Street-Movies supports pedophilia.
Sorry to dig this up again, but I've just seen what the Nurse-Tome was really about and I have to revise my comment a bit, so people that agreed with my initial statement might see where I was wrong.
I still stand by the argument, that a villain should be allowed to have absolutely abhorrent views. No change there.
Where I was wrong was in assuming, that the Tome displayed how Sally reached the mental break - that was mentioned in her original background - and basically "snapped" after 20 years of witnessing every horror and vile thing done to the patients. (and potential abuse by her colleague) Which would result in the massacre, where she killed the patients as a misguided act of mercy, maybe somehow justifying it by seeing the patients as sick dogs, that are better off being put down. (where then the eugenics-accusations would come from)
As I've said, that was what I was assuming. And I really should stop assuming things.
I didn't anticipate that the Tome would portray Sally as an actual, full on eugenicist, who despises her patients solely based on a pseudo-science and false sense of superiority. Which doesn't make much sense for her original character, as her backstory paints her as an emotional character that just couldn't take the mental toll of working in the asylum anymore - not some wannabe-scientist, that justifies her murders because she wants to "cleanse the genepool".
Also a supposed leak of the full story seems to indicate that the Nurse's story was meant as a criticism of eugenics and the way patients were treated in the 1920s. So if someone writes a story that is meant as a criticism of something but instead make it seem like they endorse it, I would pretty much say it's tonedeaf and/or made in poor taste.
Bloober doesn't have any experience with combat?! Uh, did you forget parrying the tentacles?
I'm only 21 but I remember cheat codes 😭 I'm not that much of a baby, I still have my notebook that has all my ps2 cheats in it
Yea its an overplayed joke, even some modern games like Ghost has unlockable outfits and what not.
When they mentioned Jordan Peele at the end, I physically yelled "YEAH!!!"
I had a heart attack when I saw that you guys uploaded a new video. Good to see you didn't forget this channel.
I've player small on scale Indie games that handled Mental Illness and psychological horror better than every single Bloober team game..