The Blue Box Conspiracy

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  • @VoidBurgerGaming
    @VoidBurgerGaming 3 ปีที่แล้ว +54

    AHH I SAID SILENT HILL 1's THEME SONG BUT MEANT TO SAY SILENT HILL 2'S THEME SONG. BOB WE HAVE TO RERECORD THIS ONE

    • @Jaspertine
      @Jaspertine 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      unsubscribed!

    • @wozzen3
      @wozzen3 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Oh no! You have so much Silent Hill in your Brain Meats that they're all starting to blend together!

    • @Amitlu
      @Amitlu 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Harry is disappointed in you! Also he's dead.

    • @PanAndScanBuddy
      @PanAndScanBuddy 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm not an expert but I think those are similar?
      Like the guitar under the banjo of 1's theme is the same as the guitar in Promise.

  • @Lowfork
    @Lowfork 3 ปีที่แล้ว +119

    When Void went ''Why are we here?'' the fact that was expecting her to follow up with ''Just to suffer?'' makes me feel really silly.

    • @specknacken6507
      @specknacken6507 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Hey look another Kojimbo reference. It must mean something and by that i mean anything and by that i mean nothing.
      I feel silly too. :(

  • @civiridian7540
    @civiridian7540 3 ปีที่แล้ว +140

    Bob's framing makes me feel like he's in my personal space.

  • @Feasco
    @Feasco 3 ปีที่แล้ว +55

    the strips where Garfield experiences loneliness and existential despair is the closest thing to silent hill Jim Davis has ever done

    • @PanAndScanBuddy
      @PanAndScanBuddy 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I mean, the way it flips from warm memories to a terrible hell would work perfectly for that.

  • @westingtyler1
    @westingtyler1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    34:00 Kojima said that on twitter. That he dumbed down the graphics for PT. Here's his tweet: "P.T. were meant to look indies title w/ less graphic, sound quality & control functionality. It's even 30fps.
    ”"

    • @MothersOfMars
      @MothersOfMars 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Here’s the interview that he mentioned dropping the quality a bit. th-cam.com/video/pESm9zPmysM/w-d-xo.html
      Starts at 8:18

  • @pennywisethedancingclown775
    @pennywisethedancingclown775 3 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    Bruh why are people mad? They’re not being mean, they’re being sane and honest. Yes I want the theories to be true but they’re looney, I think they do a good job of bringing us back onto ground and think more clearly.

  • @Klarden
    @Klarden 3 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    John Romero's fifth Doom episode is named Sigil :)

    • @ToadPacShakur
      @ToadPacShakur 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Like, I thought Bob was being tongue-in-cheek.. but no, I guess he really didn't know that😅

  • @Feasco
    @Feasco 3 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    the shop page thing reminds of everyone going wild about changes to the after credits scene of Wandavision with something weird in the background that someone points out is very obviously an editing error

    • @MoolbniBrie
      @MoolbniBrie 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Its a twin peaks reference. Season 2 will focus almost exclusively on it and then in season 3 half the time wanda is on camera she plays mr bean.

    • @TheHalloweenSpirit
      @TheHalloweenSpirit 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      And probably they will change it again with the final version after the end of the post-production of Sam Raimi's Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness (where the Scarlet Witch story will continue)

  • @TheColorUrple
    @TheColorUrple 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    I've been waiting for this nearly as much as Silent Hills itself.

  • @WarMonkLaurent
    @WarMonkLaurent 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Enjoyed this - love when you put these things in chronological order. Always enjoy how you two bounce off each other.
    Conspiracy theories can be fun to engage in and be a part of, as long as people know they’re just in it for giggles to see what they can connect to what. It it goes as far as harassment, harming people or legitimately trying to dupe people for monetary game that’s not fun any more. I think there’s a mix of both here and you presented it in a fair way.

  • @sh3mcode747
    @sh3mcode747 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I really appreciate when you guys do these long form videos. I'd like for you guys to keep doing them. New videos from the channel are some of the only few that I get excited to watch nowadays. Much appreciated and I hope you guys are doing well.

  • @natecarr4484
    @natecarr4484 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    The fact that there wasn't any sort of legal or civil ramifications to Konami following Kojima's departure and the reports of poor employee treatment is insane to me. That company is the epitomy of greed and needs to dissolve

  • @hystarukal
    @hystarukal 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I absolutely love this semi-informative podcast format, you two have a great dorky chemistry and I can listen to it for background audio while I work for hours. Literally binged this entire channel in a day because it scratched that itch I didnt know I had. Always great to see something new uploaded to this quality gem of a channel.

  • @Alex_Logan22
    @Alex_Logan22 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    “Ah shit, here we go again.”

  • @Jaspertine
    @Jaspertine 3 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    About the tree covering the letters... maybe you get to this later in the video, but... I mean PT has been so thoroughly copied and fangamed and memefied at this point that it genuinely wouldn't surprise me if someone knows PT through reputation without knowing the history behind it, and could actually be referencing PT without realizing the connection to Kojima and Silent Hills. We kind of take this stuff for granted cause were fangeeks, but these things can happen. For a long time, I only knew Persona by reputation, and didn't realize it was connected to SMT. It's weird but it happens.
    Still, coincidence is by far the most likely possibility, but I just wanted to throw that out there.

    • @Jaspertine
      @Jaspertine 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@clockworkNate Sorry, but I'm not sure I entirely understand the point you're making here.
      Is it impossible for someone to both be a game dev and also not know who Hideo Kojima is?

    • @idglet9565
      @idglet9565 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Jaspertine That's like a filmmaker not knowing Tarantino or Scorsese.

  • @hairy_cornflake
    @hairy_cornflake 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    In the end, it all backfired in the face of that studio.

  • @NeedlessNick
    @NeedlessNick 3 ปีที่แล้ว +41

    My eyes lit up so damn much seeing this suggested, these are the people who are best to talk about this

    • @michaelangst6078
      @michaelangst6078 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I disagree, I would say there is more chance that this is a Kojima silent hill than it not being one, and I would take an even money bet for up to $2000 If I could

    • @NeedlessNick
      @NeedlessNick 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@michaelangst6078 kojima has come out with a deal with xbox, if this was a silent hill game it wouldn't make sense that blue box would be working exclusively with playstation

  • @LarryJ602
    @LarryJ602 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    It's nothing but a bunch of incompetent devs with some rich A-hole backing them playing up the Kojima angle for attention.

  • @Abby-Dinnerandamovie
    @Abby-Dinnerandamovie 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    This is the only account that I get notifications for and I’m there immediately.
    …And I’ve never even played a Silent Hill game.

    • @Jaspertine
      @Jaspertine 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I've played a little bit, but never got very far on my own. Almost everything I know about the series comes second-hand from watching playthroughs by people like VoidBurger and SuperGreatFriend.

  • @pnutdraws
    @pnutdraws 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    what i feel is the fans are being blamed instead of Blue box , i know they apologized for the "starts with S ends with L" tweet but it feels like they did this as a marketing strategy to get more eyes on the game

    • @Feasco
      @Feasco 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      The guy took advantage of fan speculation to garner publicity for his own game which got out of hand and fans blew it out of proportion, both things can be true

    • @maxrevive592
      @maxrevive592 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Feasco no they really can’t. Hasan is to blame.

  • @Dialgadude
    @Dialgadude 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I can't believe the guy who played Sam from Death Stranding made a special guest appearance at 27:27 to make a strongly-worded announcement for people to not read too much into things on the internet! Wow!

  • @Arrrthritis
    @Arrrthritis 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I think a good question to ask right now is "Why do we want a new Silent Hill game?" Would a new horror game be improved if we saw Heather Mason being scared again or Pyramid Head being menacing? Does a game need to be set in a spooky town specifically called "Silent Hill" for it to be good? What does being a part of that franchise add to the quality of a new horror game?

  • @enzo991_
    @enzo991_ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    As a big fan of the series, I don't understand the obsession with having Kojima make a new SH game. When Silent Hills got announced, my greatest fear was that the series was about to be taken over by Kojima and his crazy fans as there was no way Kojima was going to make a SH game faithful to the original titles. Seeing the franchise get entangled in Kojima's BS anyway even after Silent Hills was canned is frustrating. Frankly, I'd rather wait and hope for a revival of the series rather than hand it over to Kojima.

    • @derfette7148
      @derfette7148 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      yeah I don't see it either, it's not his style? his style is too wacky. but maybe he could tone it down.

    • @westingtyler1
      @westingtyler1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@radekseky4571 yeah that's how I'd respond. If you doubt Kojima would do a good Silent Hill, PT should put those fears to rest. I'd also like to see Elijah Wood's take on Nightmare on Elm Street, which he's talked about several times. When someone like this who you don't expect seems really interested in doing something in a franchise, someone known for quality, usually it's because they have a cool vision and are passionate about it.

    • @fma478
      @fma478 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@westingtyler1 P.T. was amazing but it also wasn't a full game, truth is we don't know how the story would've been executed. It's like when the Phantom Pain's trailer came out and looked amazing but a lot of people found the actual game to be disappointing story-wise. I like Kojima's writing but Team Silent's storytelling was very different from his, it was more subtle and didn't feel the need to overexplain things. I would love to see a full horror Kojima game but it doesn't need to be tied down Silent Hill.

  • @blakestimac
    @blakestimac 3 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    I was waiting for this!!

  • @sebastian.victor7461
    @sebastian.victor7461 3 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    Its bad advertising seeing how hasan delayed his project by two months.

    • @DinaricUbermensch
      @DinaricUbermensch 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      Kojima said players solved P.T. too fast, this time it will be longer

    • @mercurymachines4311
      @mercurymachines4311 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      If you believe that the app delay is real, you’ll believe anything…

    • @imgeorgelucas320
      @imgeorgelucas320 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mercurymachines4311 well it was stated by Blue Box themselves...

    • @mercurymachines4311
      @mercurymachines4311 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@imgeorgelucas320 and you believe them, you believe anything. They aren’t a real Studio.

    • @imgeorgelucas320
      @imgeorgelucas320 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@mercurymachines4311 How arnt they a real studio? I’m kinda mixed on this but there’s pretty solid evidence showing that they’re real

  • @ezepoliyu
    @ezepoliyu 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    I LAUGHED SO HARD WHEN HE EXPLAINED HIS THEORY FOR A NAME

  • @cassp13
    @cassp13 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    as some people pointed out there is at least one game called Sigil, it's a Doom mod from 2019 made by John Romero himself, it's pretty great!

  • @enigmaticvaran6597
    @enigmaticvaran6597 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Aw man, after nearly a year we are still in the dark.

  • @theallaroundnerd9889
    @theallaroundnerd9889 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Wait...you guys were talking about this whole conspiracy and didn't talk about the REALLY weird shit?
    Like how Hassan is the only person at Blue Box we know actually exists or is ever shown? The old website of theirs always said they were a team of 10, but when talking about employees they never gave any names and all their pictures were stock images from Google?
    Or how they said they were seemingly working on this game since 2017 and only threw together a shitty trailer with pre-bought assets?
    Or how they had a kickstarter for their game, made $200 off it before a private investor paid the rest of the thousands of dollars they were asking for?
    Or their other game which was in production in like 2016, but was canceled and given to another team which does exist, but the team is apparently a department store that like sells electronics or some shit and most definitely never had any game developers?
    The only games Hassan has officially published have been asset flipped iOS games that he made in like 2013.
    There is A LOT to delve into on this situation, and, not just for the conspiracy theory, but also just for the entertainment and intrigue of it all.
    Seriously, would love to see a follow up where you guys just deep-dive into the whole thing. It gets fucky.

    • @westingtyler1
      @westingtyler1 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      yeah, there's a LOT to this. Night Mind's video about the blue box conspiracy is cool.

    • @theallaroundnerd9889
      @theallaroundnerd9889 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@westingtyler1 At first I was like "ha ha, can't wait for this to get shot down in a week"
      Then I started looking into it and this shit is TOO weird. Like, if not Silent Hill, it has to be something.

    • @47fortyseven47
      @47fortyseven47 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It feels like such a lazy video. Really disappointing. Its like they researched it for 5 minutes and were done.

    • @zacharyantle7940
      @zacharyantle7940 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hey did you see theor response to this in their podcast episode? They got so mad at most of what you said 😂

    • @theallaroundnerd9889
      @theallaroundnerd9889 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@zacharyantle7940 No, do you have a link and time stamp?

  • @Drakonak
    @Drakonak 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This is really fun coming back to years later

  • @ElFregadero4
    @ElFregadero4 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    waiting for ages for a video from this channel, thank you

  • @spikedwallman
    @spikedwallman 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    One more nail in the google translate screenshot's coffin btw, it clearly says it's translating "eiyuu" (meaning hero) from japanese to turkish, *using english letters*. If you use the japanese spelling of kojima's name "秀夫", it just comes out as Hideo. Odds are the word processor got mixed up when the brainlet tried to translate an english word as japanese.

  • @yeetleslaw8529
    @yeetleslaw8529 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    I just watched the teaser trailer. I could tell about the quality of the voice talent, this wasn't a Kojima productions. The teaser feels amateurish. But I can see how it misleads some people. Kojima is known for being secretive and loves tricking their fans.

    • @TheCommanderFluffy
      @TheCommanderFluffy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Wouldn't that be the ultimate ruse, though? The whole idea is that you should feel as though it is an indie title. One of the biggest give aways for The Phantom Pain trailer and PT was the VA. If I were Kojima, I would deliberately use amateur voice work to keep people from ultimately concluding it IS a Kojima IP.
      Even making this look like a over enthusiastic indie dev making a mistake makes it harder to tell if Kojima did THIS on purpose. Obviously it's really hard to tell at this point and the biggest flaw with conspiricism is that lack of evidence always feels like evidence of a cover up.
      The coincidences feel very Kojima so it makes for a difficult puzzle IF it is one. But, it looks like it's not. If so, shame on Blue Box for being so cryptic.

    • @KinnetMontana
      @KinnetMontana 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Not like they have gone out of their way before to make their product look indie and cheap to keep the mystery...

  • @angabuntu
    @angabuntu 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Yeah, a new video! I knew you would do one about that... confusing stuff. I love your videos so much :)

  • @6inTruder
    @6inTruder 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Kojima employee using a pencil with "pyramid" printed on the side? SWITCH PRO CONFIRMED!!!!

  • @hardbody2072
    @hardbody2072 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Hasans just a typical bullshitter. It was a great marketing strategy at first but he lost control of the reigns. When Konami kicked in it looked a little weird though especially with there Silent Hill pyramid head merch that looked like it was missing an s for silent hill(s) you guys are right though a new silent hill game would be tough, expectations are so high, they should just remake the original 4 in the same style as the remaster of Resident Evil 1

  • @LochNessAnthony
    @LochNessAnthony 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Glad to see the channel back. Love the format!!

  • @KLind
    @KLind 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Bloober Team's take on Garfield is set to really surprise us all.

  • @ThatPazuzu
    @ThatPazuzu 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I don't think Blue Box are intentionally trying to get Silent Hill clout. I feel like they would have been *more* obvious, you know.

  • @gabrielmcconnor4493
    @gabrielmcconnor4493 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I was literally just binging your videos for the 8th time yesterday. I’m so excited.

  • @JackChristmas
    @JackChristmas 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    You ever notice how BV (bobvids) is VB (VoidBurger) backwards? Coincidence?! I think not!

  • @tonythetony8438
    @tonythetony8438 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The 5th episode for classic DOOM made by John Romero, one of the series co-creators is called Sigil

  • @UnitingMilk
    @UnitingMilk 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    P.T's hidden meaning is up there with my favorite youtube videos because it was just so interesting, its such a cool, engaging, and well thought out reading of P.T that is just so awesome to think about. If some kind of information came out that disproved the theories of that video I would still love that video lol.

  • @Mine18x
    @Mine18x 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    If the Silent Hill fandom is desperate for a new Silent Hill game, why don't they make one themselves?
    ...oh wait...
    *LOST IN VIVO*

    • @westingtyler1
      @westingtyler1 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      is Lost in Vivo good, and Silent Hill ish? I have it but have not been excited to play it yet.

    • @Mine18x
      @Mine18x 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@westingtyler1 I haven't played the game (or Silent Hill), but from what I've heard/read it seems similar to SH1/2 and is reviewed well on Steam.

    • @jorgecaimanque6951
      @jorgecaimanque6951 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      We cant make one ourselves because we can't agree on what Silent Hill should be like. Interpretations differ so much that if you put together a team of talented devs, creative differences are bound to happen, and not the kind that can be easily handwaved. And if you get a group of people that agree in their views about the franchise, good luck having two of them to have experience in development.

    • @Mine18x
      @Mine18x 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@jorgecaimanque6951 Fair enough. That could happen with any fan project and the more "odd" the source material is, the harder for it to be replicated "authentically" (As in mimic the feel of the original). As an outsider looking in, it just seems like Silent Hill is about missing loved ones and trying to find them through any means necessary, to risk everything just to save them. Lost In Vivo is about finding your Dog by going through the sewers and encountering some monsters, so by my logic it fits the criteria, but what I described would be a simplified description and it may not be what makes people like the franchise in the first place.

  • @pordord
    @pordord 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    If it isn’t Kojima kinda dissapointing but the conspiracy was very entertaining.

    • @Feasco
      @Feasco 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Disappointment was always going to be the only outcome

  • @BrenoGF144
    @BrenoGF144 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Just got into the channel, binge watching all your videos since the 1st podcast! Was waiting for this, and will watch it after the others

  • @Red-ks8fk
    @Red-ks8fk 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Always happy to see another video from you guys!

  • @bellzebub9863
    @bellzebub9863 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Im so happy he yells boondock saints in the end because I was 😂 "ITS FUKING BOONDOCKS SAINTS!!!!!!" made my ending

  • @galesdove
    @galesdove 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    i do love this format, but i would love to see some stuff on the older games! i think you mentioned really early on in the channel about discussing some things about the older games, and i miss your older format a lot. your style of editing is something i really adore!!

  • @specknacken6507
    @specknacken6507 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Yeah at this point the rumors and conspiracies have reached Qanon levels of bullshit. It's not fun anymore. I can imagine at some point every rumor is just gonna be actual self aware "haha look how pathetic we are" memery so everything becomes even more nihilistic and depressing. Also i think we're better off with no SH game at all than ANY possibility these rumors can lead to. Play SH1-4, appreciate that it was possible to make these games, let it go and move on. That's all i can say.

    • @westingtyler1
      @westingtyler1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      check out Night Mind's videos about ARGs and Unfiction. ARG's can get pretty Q-Anon ish, but it's all in good fun.

  • @hafizo_kurosaki
    @hafizo_kurosaki 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Look, I don't care if it's Silent Hills revival or not, I just want Kojima to make horror games. He absolutely has the potential knowing the success of PT. I am tired of his Sci-Fi games, I just want him to make something different

  • @Zehn317
    @Zehn317 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This format is really enjoyable, I watch a lot of "chill chat" sort of youtube videos, so this works great for me. Keep up the good work y'all

  • @astoriasky
    @astoriasky 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Team Real and Team Fake thing originated from the Phantom Pain fiasco with Kojima and that fake studio head who had an interview with Geoff Keighley. There were people who believed that the guy was CG and they used the Fox Engine to create him…so it was kind of a joking callback to that.

  • @papadong8100
    @papadong8100 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think I know what the application will be! "The haunted black water creek" is the game they made. It has two ghost hunters and in game "chat" that will help the ghost hunters.
    I am guessing the application will be us helping the ghost hunters as they walk in real time and we interact with them with the "in game chat" in the game engine.
    It would be interesting, but then it just proves that maybe it's not Silent Hill.
    Maybe this application will be able to be used so your friends can chat while you play, that be interesting.

  • @tendenza.
    @tendenza. 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Bob really looks like videogamedunkey

  • @DementedView
    @DementedView 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Finally I feel validated for owning a mannequin head for all these years.

    • @RichoRosai
      @RichoRosai 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I found mine discarded outside of a barber college and gave it a good home. Doing drugs and stroking its hair is surprisingly soothing.

  • @Vezii-DJake
    @Vezii-DJake 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    2:35 people mean the "quality" as in it looks bad just like how Kojima explained how they had to make the graphics for PT look worse so people wouldn't automatically believe it's a triple AAA game

    • @westingtyler1
      @westingtyler1 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      yeah. Kojima said that on twitter. That he dumbed down the graphics for PT. Here's his tweet: "P.T. were meant to look indies title w/ less graphic, sound quality & control functionality. It's even 30fps. That the Grate Debate hosts don't find this believable is strange to me. Of COURSE Kojima would up the ante if he did another ARG.

  • @onewontdo
    @onewontdo 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    This whole fiasco is probably the worst marketing I have ever seen in video games.

  • @westingtyler1
    @westingtyler1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    they didn't really debunk the conspiracy. they just spent an hour saying they didn't buy it - that each piece of evidence was a stretch, which is fine, but not really a "debunk" as said at the end. I think based on Kojima's past, it's entirely feasible he'd do all this. Any other dev, i'd say it's crazy to believe, but Kojima loves ARG stuff and would definitely up the ante if he did it again.

    • @47fortyseven47
      @47fortyseven47 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      exactly, they skipped over so many points and acted as if this is far fetched when they got people to yell "JARITH" into their microphone in PT lmao

    • @tussletoes
      @tussletoes 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@47fortyseven47 this is q anon for gamers lmao get over yourselves

  • @Alex_Logan22
    @Alex_Logan22 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    KojiPro’s February 2020 tweet definitely was teasing a SH, what else could it had been? Nothing ever got announced a week later, and months later Kojima talked in an interview about a project falling through that he was sad about, so yea it adds up. Just because it didn’t happen doesn’t mean he wasn’t working on it, tons of games get canceled all the time before they’re revealed. Part of the Kojima/Konami breakup had to do with Kojima revealing SH before he was even done with MGSV, way too soon, so it adds up that he wanted to reveal it again perhaps a little too soon.

  • @adamnorton4756
    @adamnorton4756 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thought of you both immediately when I heard about this.

  • @SosaStarlight
    @SosaStarlight 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I'm not a silent hill fan but I used to have a couple dozen Styrofoam heads. My mom made and sold toques.

  • @theMoporter
    @theMoporter 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Twitter really turned on Jason Schreier like he was personally responsible for everything. Guess it's easier to pretend it's one guy's fault rather than a fault of a thousand faceless Redditors. There are hoards of people who acted like he'd given up on serious journalism, which was pretty funny in retrospect of his book about labour rights that came out like a week later.

  • @wozzen3
    @wozzen3 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    ...I had no idea Bob was such a handsome devil!

  • @TheTrueAegonTargaryen
    @TheTrueAegonTargaryen 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    In one of the comments on the tweet that said First letter s last letter l, someone commented So it's "survival" than and BlueBox replied with No. So that's why I think it's Silent Hill

    • @theMoporter
      @theMoporter 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I don't think it's Silent Hill, but it was unreasonable to think they could tweet that out without people thinking of one of the biggest survival horror series of all time.

  • @LadyDeSelby
    @LadyDeSelby 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    "People who think the eastern-developed games are the only real ones"
    I mean, it's not that they were eastern-developed, it's that they were made by one specific team (with, granted, rotating staff), who actually did have a specific plan for a Silent Hill 5 before they were forcibly split up by Konami. I think it's very reasonable to only be interested in the work of those actual creators and not Silent Hill the Brand Name, which I couldn't care less about. But it might be different for people who grew up in fandom spaces while all those other SH stuff was coming out.

    • @westingtyler1
      @westingtyler1 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      yeah, as far as i'm concerned, it would be great to see a Silent Hill 5. I'm surprised the hosts in this vid didn't also consider the Pachinko machine, if the brand is all it takes for it to be a numbered entry. If it was called Silent Hill 5 and included a great team like Kojima, Junji Ito, del Torro, that WOULD be worth getting excited about.

  • @Peringon
    @Peringon 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    'Sup I'm from the future, I have some bad news for people who believed in this nonsense conspiracy ✨

    • @Akiba_Ch
      @Akiba_Ch 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Well Im waitin

  • @mrbri6463
    @mrbri6463 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Oh now that they have an asset flip character with an eyepatch and the font is the Metal Gears Solid one, it’s now Metal Gears Solid 6.

  • @lenOwOo
    @lenOwOo ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Where is the game today

  • @JCOdrjones
    @JCOdrjones 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Here's a lesson for future SH developers on what to do when it comes to SH
    The virgin SH 2 (copycat)
    The Chad SH 1, 3, (and sorta 4) impossible to properly copy sensibly cult stories

  • @Cristian.Cortez
    @Cristian.Cortez 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is a super unpopular opinion, and I'm not really what it is about them, but I've never really been a fan of Kojima games, so when Kojima wasn't able to work on silent hill anymore I wasn't really all that torn up about it, cause no matter how objectively good the have may have turned out to be, I know it would have been super different to all of the past games

    • @westingtyler1
      @westingtyler1 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      would you have liked a Silent Hill game that felt like PT? I thought it would be a fresh and serious take on the franchise.

  • @userxv
    @userxv 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This can only end in 2 ways: 1) Silent Hill(s) is real and people will lose their shit over it (even if the game is not up to the hype, people will say "you just don't understand the hidden meaning and finesse of this game's writing. But I digress) 2) Bluebox is a tiny studio with nothing to show for, nobody will pay a cent for that game after finding out all of this was just a big trolling campaign, and they kept faking their way up to unmanageable levels they couldn't even fathom would happen. They will be burned to the ground in social media.

  • @ImpendingRiot83
    @ImpendingRiot83 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Early internet user: We’re truly entering the future we always dreamed of with this technology
    Modern internet user: GUYS, FOR THE LAST TIME, I AM _NOT_ SECRETLY HIDEO KOJIMA, *PLEASE LEAVE ME ALONE.*

  • @ojnib
    @ojnib 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I don’t think it’s silent hill(s). But I do believe we’re going to get that Kojima horror game that was going to be silent hills. More like that TGS trailer and less like a traditional SH game.

  • @maxthescarecrow4038
    @maxthescarecrow4038 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Honestly at this point I would be fine with three things:
    The first one would be a good Silent Hill game that juat follows the spirit if the franchise to it's best abilities, the second would be a mind-blowing experience thet once again becomes a hallmark of the industry and raises the standard once more and the final one is keeping the franchise buried.
    I am fine with Downpour being the final one. It's an alright game, it did som interesting things and had probably the best story since The Room. I don't mind the series being dead. It's legacy is complicated and ranges from awful to the greatest experience video game horror has seen. And I am content with that.
    A good game that follows what franchise has done should not be too hard. Vatra managed to do an alright job in my eyes, I liked Shattered Memories for what it was (I liked how it did something different with the established lore) so I don't think that a solid psychological horror that can invest us is impossible. But why settle the franchise with mediocrity once more?
    Which leads me to the final one - the mind-blowing experience. How likely is it? Maybe if Konami gave someone else the rights. Maybe if some amazing dev team realised where to take it and how to bring us the true next generation of horror. But even if Kojima SOMEHOW picked it up and wanted to do the project, he is put on too high of a pedestal. I love him. Man is quirky and crazy, but for one he is a different person than he was 7 years ago. And that's fine, people change but we wouldn't be getting his original vision for Silent Hills that he had back then and two, he can veer of into stupidtown pretty easily. MGS V was perhaps unfinished but it was him. His vision only incomplete. Metal Gear Solid 4: Train to Stupidtown WAS TOTALLY him. And Death Stranding had quite a ton of stupid within itself.
    The sad thing is I don't think we will ever get Silent Hill 2 of this generation. Not under the Silent Hill IP. And that makes me sad but I will rather let it go than hang onto it and accept...whatever Bloober Team might be cooking up. I don't want another bad or mediocre Silent Hill game. Origins and Homecoming were quite enough, thank you.
    EDIT #1: 55:37 They are not divorced. Dad killed mom and children, remember? "But one day he goes and kills us all". Dad fucked up. No more Christmas together.
    EDIT #2: Yeah I like this format. I love your content, wish there was more of it but you can only talk so much about it before it becomes grating (heh) for those who talk about it so I get it.
    And Boondock Saits was the best highschool student imitation of Quentin Tarantino.
    Blade 2 is legitimately awesome.

  • @viktorgrossfeldt2950
    @viktorgrossfeldt2950 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    There is Sigil by Romero it is Doom unreleased level. Konami announced collab with Bloober Team. They made Medium and worked with Akira Yamaoka. After tweet bomb Konami started to promote SH stuff. Abandoned is connected with SH. Too much coincidences.

  • @Mirintala
    @Mirintala 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Yes I sat here till the last second to see if you would shout Boondock Saints.

  • @VannTheDawn
    @VannTheDawn 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think Hasan needs to show the real game as soon as possible and not drag this out til August, If he fans the flames of the hype train and this turns out to not be Silent Hill, his game is gonna bomb.
    There are a lot of unanswered questions in regards to his company, the game and who he is exactly. How did he get the funding? Blue Box is supposed to be an indie dev, but he’s outsourcing to multiple companies like a AAA game studio. I think this is a AAA game studio in disguise, maybe not Kojima Productions, but some other big name company.

  • @tommyliddell8794
    @tommyliddell8794 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think it is somewhat important to mention that Hasan Kahraman stated on Twitter that the 'Abandoned' teaser has nothing to do with the game; it was apparently just something Blue Box Game Studios hastily threw together in order to be able to show something.

    • @canstermeat8171
      @canstermeat8171 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Yet BB Game Studios states there are 7 outsourcing studios working with them on "Abandoned"

    • @tommyliddell8794
      @tommyliddell8794 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@canstermeat8171 it is absolutely bizarre.

    • @canstermeat8171
      @canstermeat8171 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@tommyliddell8794 Also delaying the app the day it was supposed to come out? You can get sued for a bunch of zeroes for this, or else. Even not considering that it should've been uploaded to servers at that point to get poped right away. Farce. My take on this is they would tease it as Silent Hill, then provide a decent point it isn't to break everyone's hopes, and then go full 360 non scope to make a surprise anouncement of the Silent Hill.

    • @westingtyler1
      @westingtyler1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      yeah. either this is all a Kojima game or this indie dev is a giant scammer. the fact the trailer was just an asset flip, yet we're supposed to be getting a demo soon, and yet 7 studios are supposedly working on this.... in other words, this is vaporware. there is NO evidence this game even exists except hype and bs. I could not imagine, if I had a game even in an alpha state, that i'd just bullshit together a totally unrelated trailer with assets not in the game ESPECIALLY if I was an honest indie dev trying to show my work. I actually am an indie dev, and my first teaser trailer, you can bet it will actually show footage of real places in the game, at LEAST. If this was all reported on in a Jim Sterling video instead of being a SH Kojima conspiracy, I'd say this dev has no game and is full of shit.

  • @adelelalem1477
    @adelelalem1477 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The channel is back 🙏👏

  • @chrissysky01
    @chrissysky01 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This format is great! Loved the video.

  • @endoplasmicreticulum8357
    @endoplasmicreticulum8357 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I was waiting for this 😅

  • @Theking02201
    @Theking02201 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I immediately thought of you guys when this conspiracy broke out xD. Also it's a shame I never found out that Bobvids covered the RE7 demo easter egg hunt also when that was huge since it wasn't featured on this channel darn it.

  • @chrisbj5251
    @chrisbj5251 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I was expecting this vid from you guys. In the end we're all played.

  • @coverandoacasa
    @coverandoacasa 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    cannot wait for the video about this scam when everything finally unfolds.

  • @logangomesdasilva
    @logangomesdasilva 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I loved the new format guys, you two are so cute and beautiful, it's a sight to look at you while watching lol wow here in the Brazilian community of SH every day someone appears with a new rumor, it's amazing the ability that people have to delude yourself with Konami who only sees mobile games, Pachinko and money, sad

  • @GuntherSchmidl
    @GuntherSchmidl 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The heads say Manual because they're not Automatic, of course.

  • @Feasco
    @Feasco 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    LET PYRAMID HEAD DO KICKFLIP

  • @murcielago7247
    @murcielago7247 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    It's funny to hear far deep the rabbit hole has gone

  • @LunaVeau
    @LunaVeau 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I could listen to you guys nerd out for hours!

  • @trueshinchan
    @trueshinchan 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Why is Kojima following Konami and vice versa?

  • @joh3628
    @joh3628 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Can't wait to see the ''We Were Wrong'' video😁

  • @keithmarcus8638
    @keithmarcus8638 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I mean, I'm just excited for a Kojima new game, doesn't have to be Silent Hill. I still feel like anything's on the table. Remember people saying Snyder Cut will never happen?

  • @endigopink
    @endigopink 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Love the video and love all your P.T related content BUT that whole thing about Google Translate being wrong is... misleading at best. "Hideo" -does- in fact translate to "kahraman", and shooting down this fact for the sake of argument is factually wrong. True the kanji used are different from the ones Hideo Kojima uses in his name, but the word is "hideo" none the less.

    • @Armadillo999
      @Armadillo999 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Thanks for this, I noticed the exact same thing. It’s one thing to disagree with the rumor going around, but they constantly dismiss stuff here just because that’s their side now. That one in particular caught my attention. I’m not even a believer that this game is silent hills, but they seem like their insulting the fans talking about all this theory

    • @47fortyseven47
      @47fortyseven47 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Not just that but they missed over literally 90% of the points that are the reason people think it's Kojima, just feels like a really lazy video.

    • @pjwaring
      @pjwaring 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      So, when you type the Romanji "Hideo" into google translate the kanji that pops up is 英雄, which means "hero" and is usually pronounced "eiyuu". What you have to understand about Japanese names is the kanji they use and the way they are pronounced are completely divorced from each other. You can take a bunch of kanji that mean one thing and it's pronounced entirely differently. Often times they pick some auspicious kanji like "hero" and pronounce it differently. It'd be like if you could legally name your kid "SweetMonsterTruck" but have it pronounced "Jeff".
      Kojima spells "Hideo" with this kanji 秀夫. Copy and paste that into the Japanese to Turkish Google translator. Notice how it says "Hideo"?
      You are basing this on translating Japanese to English then back to japanese and then to Turkish. It's a stupid coincidence.

    • @frosty6845
      @frosty6845 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That's not how Japanese works

  • @tomhaswell6283
    @tomhaswell6283 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I am a simple dude. I see a new video by Grate Debate got uploaded. I click.

  • @Alex_Logan22
    @Alex_Logan22 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    On the point of working with Konami, any game being PS5 exclusive is what makes the rumor/theory more believable, because that would mean Sony pitched a deal and is funding the game to whoever they wish, whether it’s Bluepoint for an MGS Remake or Kojima for a Silent Hill. The people making these games wouldn’t have to interact with Konami themselves, and Konami wouldn’t say no cause they’re not funding anything, it’s free money. This already happened with Zone of the Enders 2, it’s how we got an awesome VR port for it. We can still get awesome Konami games as long as Konami’s not making/funding them. The MGS movie is in production too, with Kojima as a consultant, it’s not like Konami’s gonna sabotage that.

  • @RalphNaderInc
    @RalphNaderInc 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    oh, it's just a podcast thing, i thought it would be more like the PT video

  • @Ghosthound_X
    @Ghosthound_X 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    At last they have returned!

  • @erikmontoya7079
    @erikmontoya7079 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Shit, when we were waiting for Elden Ring gameplay we would speculate any event coming up to have Elden Ring.

  • @Achromasloth
    @Achromasloth 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hideo Kojima is not real, it was your parents all along.