Why You Should NOT Switch to LUNA...Yet | Top Issues with UA Luna Recording System
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Universal Audio recently debuted its new software, the Luna Recording System. While there are some amazing features like super low latency monitoring, Neve Summing, and built-in tape emulation, there are some features that we use every day that have been left out. I analyze what Luna is missing in comparison to other DAWs like Pro Tools, Studio One, and Logic Pro X.
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I absolutely love your energy!! The world smiles more with you in it! :) I’ve been mainly using LUNA for putting strings & MOOG on my songs with the free trials 🤓 There’s some things I dig about LUNA but way more that I can’t stand! It also crashes soooooo much on me and I have a super powerful computer. 🤦🏻♂️ Had me really stressed for a couple nights. Then I remembered I could be crippled or blind and I chilled out. ❤️
Great Points - I thought I was going crazy looking for all the basic EQs, Compressors & Tap Delays - besides BIP which i use all day in logic we need the right couch “slow down@ feature inside the fade zone - that is a MUST! ... but in the bright side my first Luna Mix sounds 🔥 THANKS WAVY
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Just watched this with my roommate because he was telling me about Rick Beato's channel. Had to show him all the knowledge you drop. Great video.
nope. the authorization being tied to the login, ilok, and UA hardward is three strikes and out. thanks for letting us know.
"Dark side of the Luna" for the win.
but not the win-dows
For a v1, it's amazing. Right now I'm just tracking, AAF to Logic for editing, then AAF back to Luna for mixing. So far, I've finished 3 projects and it's been great.
Beau Stephenson Music Channel yeah I’m producing in Ableton and exporting to Luna for Mixing. I love it!!
That was a really fun excursion on Luna. Thanks for warning me. I’ll stay in Logic and just keep using my UAD PCI cards and TB3 Lynx Aurora interface. Rock solid.
This is one of the best videos I've ever seen on many levels! Thumbs up! And every success!
Man, that was an instant subscribe... never reached that button more quickly! XD you're really funny and clearly know your stuff (without being pretentious, a big plus for me!).
Great video! Thanks for the insight I’m starting off in production and this really helped in what daw I will be using thanks man! Your awesome!
Dude, thank you for putting this out there. I’ve been with Studio One since 2009 but for a moment, I was considering Luna with all the hype.
Great video Wavy! Been using Luna as well and have been running into the same issues. Awesome DAW but definitely needs more work. I am looking forward to the future updates.
Just started using Luna for voice work coming from adobe audition. The no stock effects etc had me confused. Any suggestion on plug ins for echo/delay/compression etc?
People bad mouthing LUNA so far are not seeing the true potential of this software. I don't think this will overtake PRO TOOLS in tracking, or LOGIC and FRUITY LOOPS in production, but it's going to have its place in mixing. This DAW has probably the best overall sound I've heard from a DAW.
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Now this is the definition of constructive criticism. Honest and fair!
how to export wav in luna
I can’t get my waves plugins to show up. Is there something specific that I need to do?
Great content, keep pushing, have been watching your content for a few months I always forgot to sub 😁. I subbed today, keep up the good work...😎😎😎
How do you print your effects? we don't all have ample dsp Wayne. I've had to record to an audio track everytime, unlike pro tools where you can commit. Thoughts?
Yo wavy im working on sonar x3 and been working on it for years. What do you think about it if you have heard of it or not. Its made by cakewalk
That's a pretty good list to start with. Thanks for covering this. I too had some issues trying to get it installed with passwords and ilok. To be honest, I almost said to hell with it right at the start. Also, I was pretty shocked when I found out that you have to buy a lot of the plugins that were demo'd as if they were included. No-one ever mentioned that at the NAMM rollout.
I love the feel and sound of LUNA, but for me i need, continuous scrolling, freeze tracks for plugins, VCA's, import session data, Bounce in place and a separate MIDI window
Very helpful, and thanks for keeping it positive! You rock, brother!
Super Super cool brother. Just getting into the UAT, LUNA, and Apollo world. Thanks for the up beat training and insight. Was completely helpful!
Great Video especially the stuff you hit on been definitely shooting them feedback hope they fix in next update
Love this. Helped in my decision to stay w/LPX -- and you're just darn likable!
Can you save channel strip settings as you can in logic? Pro tools don't let you save channel strip settings.
Thanks for this review! Love dat Wavy Wayne!
I have UAD hardware, but like the DAWS i use are awesome so why switch now? I'll hold position and see what happens.
yoo @Wayne.wav is that a faderport 16? How u got it workin with protools, cause Im getting ready to send mine back?? I just picked up a Softube console 1 FADER, but Im not too impressed with That neither. I would love to find a reason to keep my faderport, so if u got yours workin smoooooth and buttery lmk ,so I know its my dumbass causin a user error and ill worker for a solution
Helpful and informative! Thanks Subbed
Appreciate this... Brutal Honesty!
You nailed the big ones. But you acknowledged that they are still working on it, which is fair. My take, it's not ready for prime-time because ALL other DAWs are light years ahead in all sorts of ways. Once they start to catch up, and if they listen to the feedback, it will improve. Great vid. I hit thumbs up in the first 15 seconds!
What version of protools are you all using that doesn't require an ILok?
thanks bro, you helped me out a lot!
what about the Bus sends ? do I have to buy the 299$ neveexpansion ? no regular sends ?
I wonder if upon purchase we can request the prior software to Luna ?
Doesn't Pro Tools need to be connected to the iLok cloud/ internet to run as well?
Good stuff Wavy! I love your insight. I've been reviewing Luna as well, and it certainly needs a bit more to work for everybody. But it's a great start. Thanks for keeping it real.
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And there is also the fact that UAD deletes all negative comments on their website ... this is offensive
They deleted the reviews about people bitching about the fact the Neve Summing wasn't free, if those very people took their heads out of their asses they would of known from the start it wasn't free. So i totally understand why UA deleted these reviews :)
Jamie Dockerty sound like a fanboy, pussy
REVEN6E just stating facts dumbass.
@@reven6e531 You sound like a Cajun.
@@louderthanlove4 still no reason to delete them, let them demonstrate their own stupidity in that case, i am sure that they've also deleted good criticism
Newcomer here on your channel. I’m mostly a live music guy, but I have nothing against any type of music.
Man, great insight. Great sense of humor. Helpful video. Thank you!
Luna needs 10.13 im still on Yosemite ..afraid my plugins not working with the up grade ...can u help u me with this.......
I agree with everythign in this video as I was upset myself with expreienxijg these limitations first hand, but I guess this is why UAD restrain themselves from calling this a daw and consider the platform to be a recording system. Essentially, this is console 5.0 or something lol, because I feel as it just be beneficial to track with LUNA, and mix elsewhere; hence, why there is no mp3 bounce setting. Great video and I want to see the program progress with future updates!
Wait! No plugins??? What about the ones that come free with your UA interface??? You can’t use those??? I’m confused.
Hi I have only a satalite uad device and was going to get an Apollo twin but on the uad site I can not access the quad core of my satalite to use alongside the Apollo twin which I was going to purchase that’s one kick in the teeth so why sell the satalites in the first place I had no idea jockers I can’t get my head around it so all the unison technology I can only use with the dsp of the twin if I buy one all the plugins I bought joke
great video,, i would agree that there is no free plugins that come with the daw,,, I'm hoping they will make that change since ua plugins are uber expensive (quality vs quantity)... Can you use templates i previously purchased from u in Luna now???? Also is there a list of all the plug ins you use for your templates in Luna, Pro tools, or Logic before i purchase more templates???? Thx bro
I can’t even export files as an aaf 😑 does Luna just not let you export projects to aaf or I’m missing something.
Thanks for the info...
Thank you so much for your videos!!! Which microphone is that one you are using in your studio? It sounds incredible and seems very easy to use. Thank you!
Great insightful review. Thanks
Thanks Wavy! You rock!
there is a render button at the bottom left which seems like buffer speed which constantly goes into the red for me even though I am not running many plugins. This causes serious glitching issues which makes it impossible for me to mix or even playback.
can you change the global tuning? 432hz sounds better than 441hz
I haven't been able to even get the track window to scroll with the track so if you have a long file you can't follow it while zoomed in? really annoying
U can record with 4 uad plugins in arm mode. U just have to put the uad plugins in the insert section and not in record input.
Fkn propoganda from Wayne on that one. All he had to do was watch luna office episode #1. I expect better from the man smh.
4th S&S he made 1 mistake chill lol
Great vid, Wayne. I think Luna's target audience is those of us already using UA interfaces, and that assumes we probably already have some of the (not inexpensive) plugins. We may already have a Mac. We are used to the hardware tether. And if you can move the license from the iLok Cloud to our key, which we also probably have for other plugins, there's not much of a heavy lift. Now, yes, the external hardware (fader controller) support would be really nice. But along with the AAF export (super-simple bouncing of stems!), I think the door is left open for us to track in Luna with very low latency, then move from Luna to mix on another platform where controller compatibility varies. Also, there's a mix down function for AAC which is great.
I just started using Luna and it's quirky, but remember Pro Tools 1? Neither do I - I'm not that old. As far as FREE DAWs go, it could definitely be worse.
i just download Luna this afternoon, than my pro tools didn't work at all....ilink can not connect too, that is an very bad experience bro ,i just got lots of project to do, and now i can do nothing about it....so despair!!!!
No plugins included?? Doesn’t it come with the analog classics bundle for free?
my biggest problem is i cant process plugins to a selected audio clip like in pro tools
Apollo can with free software didn’t it? 😊 pro tools had us tied to hardware for years so we got through it and I know UA is going to update we are at V1......
Great video Wayne. Thanks.
Awesome video really enjoy it. First problem I encounter is punching in MIDI in between measures. It clears out the whole measure instead of just punching in only at the spot where I punch in. Second is exporting separated tracks with insert effects on but pre-faded. This is very necessary to send your track for mixing because most time you don't want to render that fader level. And of course Freezing tracks. But lets give it time because I feel I have a lot of faith in this software. It looks so beautiful and smooth just not usable for me now.
I love these videos! I do agree about the basic suite of plugins thing. I was just thinking how there were no basic plugins that came with the DAW. there are tons of free AU plugins online that you can get for now, its not an excuse but its a temporary fix. Not only it being V1 its also a V1 that was released 6-8 weeks early. so a lot of stuff that seems like a no brainer might have been included. Its definitely not ready for a complete switch over. but its good to learn the program from start so when its ready it won't be so difficult to learn
Thanks for this review.
thanks for the update
what the name of the Control surface with faders that you use
Well I’m not experiencing any issues with Logic. 😂😂😂😂
If it ain't broke don't fix it... fuck. hahah
Logic is a beast. Too fye.
Logic is the best. No other DAW has the feature set and depth.
I love logic except for drum editing. It’s a pain in the ass in logic to edit drums. I usually export to pro tools to do drum edits then import back to logic to mix. This is the only issue I have with logic. I feel like for anyone starting out it’s absolutely the best bang for the buck. The stock instrument library and stock plugins are very good.
@@dominicsinicrope2795 It might just be the case for EDM producers, but Logic doesn't really have a good Drum Machine. It has Ultrabeat which is an outdated ugly synth and a layout for that in the newer versions called Drum Machine Designer. Also if you want to automate a parameter you have to scroll through them unlike in Ableton or Studio One.
I noticed duplicate track is very glitchy. Hardly ever works correctly for me
@wavywayne I am a new Apollo user about 2mo. & I have seen several red flags with UA & it is not gonna be cost effective for me. It will have it's place in my tool box but I will not be relying on it 100%. I will keep using my fl studio where I can use all 3rd party plug-ins & have my beat & vocals all in one project.
This is the old pro tools closed format system that they abandoned all over again.how many years b4 they open it up....bad look..
Thanks for the insight. No included plug ins is a deal breaker for me. I get that the interface comes with free plugins, BUT that is not nearly enough. PT comes with a good array of plugins to get you up and running out of the box. I can mix plenty of sessions with stock plugins alone with PT because most of my bases would be covered. I'll have to hold out and wait for it to develop a little more.
What type of control surface do you have ?
Uww, just got an Apollo twin X and was excited about Luna and running the application bit after watching your video i dont know if it will work for me or not.. I am just trying to get some vocals on my MacBook so not really sure if the effects and compressors are truelly necessary at this point but i definitely hear you out! Not sure about the templates but i might buy some too, from Wavyway.com or is it wavywayne?.com Either way, i'll find out.
So is the apollo pointless if u don't even use the luna??
Can you look into warping issues and talk about that. Seems like some audio tracks I import have jumpy issues with the warping polyphonic settings. From what I can tell, there is no way to disable warping. That’s the only frustrating issue I have with it at this moment.
Just found your channel and hung around for a while. Love your energy man!
My dark side is that there’s currently no way to get rid of imported/recorded audio. It stays in the project regardless if it’s used or not. It’s also copied if you ”save as” making it impossible to make a ”clean” template based on the settings you’ve made that don’t contain x gb of garbage audio files.
But!! I really like LUNA and the features implemeted so far are great. I totally agree with your MVP-thinking though and miss a whoooole lot of stuff from my go to DAW (cubase). In time it will be... a great fullblown DAW, or... a great way to track old-school-style. We’ll see 😀 At the moment, to mee, it’s a semi-great way to track stuff.
Btw, UAD encourage to use the feedback within LUNA. It helps ’em prioritize what the users request (very MVP-style). I feedback a lot as I go along. For example I requested functionality for templates. I miss that too 😊
Great video, agree on pretty much all you have to say!
Love this presentation 👍
'Dark side of the luna' got you an automatic subscriber! Crafty!
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There is no way to do sidechaining, or am I wrong?
How is Luna today compared to pro tools after all new updates?
I was about to mix our next record using Luna instead of Logic, but after watching this video, that would be a bit premature. Thanks for the heads-up. The last record came out great in Logic so this one will be fine...but the next next one, maybe that's a good time to track with Luna and see how it goes. Maybe track in Luna, mix stems and effects and print them in Logic, and do final mixes back in Luna to capture the tape and Neve summing?
Man, Wavy, I bet you would be crazy successful in the comedic world... You just have a great personality and the "gift of gab." Just flappin my jaw... You rock.
Yep the whole Ilok-UA hardware- UA login is ridiculous. For me hardware attached is fine- why do I need the rest? Great job on the run down!
This by itself is already a big no-go
So it’s just a DAW in development... I’m only interested in getting an Apollo Twin DUO, if it comes free with the damn thing then whatever. I’ll still be using my preferred DAW.
Funny, great style and more importantly you can tell you know your stuff as your intro music and voice sound well mixed and all.
I had to subscribe, but mainly because of the dark side of the luna thing 🌑
I was definitely looking to upgrade my system to grab it but I’ll definitely wait on that for now. Hopefully they’ll fix some of those things! Thanks again for another dope video!
I appreciate your honesty
not only are your vids dope but the clarity and picture quality is dope. what are you recording your audio with? I have studio one professional, logic x and luna but I have never done a video
Thank you for the very clear and honest review! Really terrible that Luna has what It seems to be concept issues, like dongles, bureaucratic mobility and login, no mp3, no templates, no bundled basic plugins. Very disappointing. I was willing to try something newer and “better” but I will keep using Pro Tools.
Thanks... I have an Apollo twin & Run logic X. Was thinking about downloading luna because you have to run everything thru console. Im gonna wait & I don't like Iloks either. thanks again, very informative
wowee LUNA is just fabulous over here!!! thanks man
color grading and camera work is on point. wish i knew what light you use for filming in the dark studio!!!
If your interface breaks or you sell it, all your work is gone?
I'm sticking with the industry standard, been with it from LE8 with my digi002 & still have my mbox 2 for portable, now at HD PT 10 (Hybrid, love the console) and 11 & 12 on iLok. I tried the Apollo Twin MKII, used it fir a month and sold it. PT Dope! London, UK .
reaper comes with a massive amount of effects, the excellent ReaPlugs and then a slew of JS plugins.
also for a current work around To bounce within the session put the midi track out as one of the virtual channels and then create an audio track with those as the input. there is latency and you will have to line it back up but with the Tab to transient feature but its quick and easy
Thanks my guy💯
Wow, Great video. You didn't sound like you were ranting, rather, you sound like you were just pointing out the issues that are "currently" lacking. Thank you for that. Seems that everybody in this world is ANGRY right now and ranting about even the most trivial things.
Okay, so my issue is this: After I'm done tracking (using the Apollo interface, and Cubase), I do all of my editing downstairs on my laptop where I have an Octo Satellite hooked up next to my couch, and naturally, the UAD plugins function properly; but I can't even OPEN Luna with my Octo! If I track in Luna with the Apollo Quad, then, when I'm done, I don't need inputs anymore, because that part's done, and now I'm just editing. All I should need is the Octo "horsepower" for the UAD plugins, but, the app will not open without the Audio interface. Too bad, but I think, like with most great things, they're just having "growing pains", as this is their first DAW. As long as folks like you keep doing videos like this, and not ranting, I believe they will be receptive to the areas lacking. I rarely watch a video like this in its entirity. Normally, I scroll ahead to get past the "too long, wordy intros", or the "rant sections", But it was cool to watch this whole video. Again, nice job.