Short on time? - quick links for today's video: 00:00 "It's like death by 1000 paper cuts!" 00:11 Intro 06:54 Pre Universal Audio 17:14 UAD Plugins 21:53 Luna's Cumulative Effect 28:46 Why Luna’s Different 37:14 Sound City Studios 46:56 Vintage v/s AI 50:18 What's next for Luna? Thanks so much for watching! Matt Additional Links: Is UAD LUNA the BEST DAW for you? th-cam.com/video/cljLNeaFf40/w-d-xo.htmlsi=nxy0Q7mVbo1c3Btk MIDI Drums: Underwhelming or Unbelievable? | Superior Drummer 3 #UADluna th-cam.com/video/gvOImSJu4E8/w-d-xo.htmlsi=3xWWbqTh03-OGX64 McCartney 3,2,1 - Trailer (Official) • A Hulu Original th-cam.com/video/KAkqy5QntGQ/w-d-xo.htmlsi=VKWjlSeTozgHSU3h MTV $2 Bill 2003 (Full Broadcast) [4K] Detroit, Michigan | MTV Japan | Linkin Park th-cam.com/video/ETVfML-UGLo/w-d-xo.htmlsi=22G2-nmNmU2MznLP Johnny Marr - Bigmouth Strikes Again (Glastonbury 2019) th-cam.com/video/9L9o4gug1Zc/w-d-xo.htmlsi=BHbTrSdpcDocLUGo
This might be a weird request, but can you tell me how to open it? I had it open the other day, loving it as much as you do, even though i had just started getting into it, not sure why i have not been digging through it daily, anyway, my laptop crashed and now i had to backup as much as i could and so it wasn't in the "open recent" tab of the preview anymore and now when i click on the file it opens in hundreds of windows with thousands of tabs and just looks so weird compared to the compact, great looking manual it was before. I am sorry to bother you with this, i am still a stoneage ooga ooga man when it comes to computers, haha, truly awful, if it were up to me i'd have a console, tape machine and some sweet outboard, but here i am, broke with a broken laptop, hehe, i would really appreciate me if you could show me in the right direction, so i can enjoy that brilliant manual again in the future, thank you!
Hi, thanks so much for watching and those lovely words for Universal audio I know they will be greatly appreciated 👍 It’s great to hear how much you’re enjoying Luna, the extensions and plug-ins for your music. Thanks again so much for watching and taking the time to comment.. All the best, and have a fantastic day! Matt
Lots of questions thank you guys for the informative video. I think LUNA should not change from it's base because as a person who discovered Luna recently I believe the wheel shouldn't be re-invented but instead the system of the right way to approach music production since it would definitely be unwise to not take into fruition the workings of our fore fathers in audio that already made the tools for the challenges, problems or solutions we set out to quantify each day. On a side note, Oxide Tape on my vocal track has been the age old answer to reducing that high end frequency that riddled me for years 🎧
Yes! That's what I thought 28:30, the analog summing emulation in Luna is more than just plugins. A UAD representative wrote somewhere that the op-amps in the summing circuits have been simulated in Luna. I don't know if it's still digital linear addition in the final summing in Luna but at least not just plugins.
Hey @musicman3000 - thanks so much for watching and taking the time to comment - I really appreciate it. Yep, I 100% agree, you can move fast and the sonic's are incredible. Have a great weekend and thanks again, Matt
Good morning guys, hello Matt and Drew, what a lovely surprise with your interview this morning. Have a lovely day😀. Best wishes from BREGN, Denmark🇩🇰
Hey @begn - thanks so much, you're very welcome! I just listened to your track Wind - what a beautiful song. Anyone reading this - check out this track: th-cam.com/video/CICPeIXxEqw/w-d-xo.htmlsi=vxPWVaiqZ8psJeea Thanks again for watching man, have a great weekend! Matt
I just did my first full song on Luna and filmed it. Working on editing. It will be on my channel. The process was so fun and I really love the sound. The summing is fantastic and I have the ATR tape emulation and that really helped smooth it out. Luna is the future. It just needs a few more features in order for it replace pro tools for me.
Hey Jack, thanks so much for watching and taking the time to leave a comment -I really appreciate it. Yes, the summing and tape extensions really do make an impact on how you mix don’t they. I’ll look forward to checking out the video when you’ve uploaded the track on your TH-cam channel 👍 Have a great day, and thanks again for watching! Matt
Hey - thanks so much for watching and taking the time to comment -I really do appreciate it! That sounds like a workflow that is working really well for you! In many ways, it’s similar to how records used to be made when they were tracked in a studio space then often send to a different studio, with a different console etc. to be mixed. Very cool, using what works best for you! Great stuff 👍 Have a great weekend, Matt
Thanks so much for your kind words, that’s really made my day! I always write a script for each video and try my best to explain things both visually and with language that will be easily understood and try my best to avoid jargon that is of no use to anyone! Interestingly, I named my Studio after the crowded house song Distant Sun, written by Neil Finn. But I see what you did there never occurred to me what a good fit it is with Luna! Have a great weekend and all the best! Matt
@@kevinlentz7604 thanks so much! That’s really great to hear! I don’t know if you have come across my website, but all the videos are on there and you can easily filter by category to find what you want. Have a great weekend and thanks again! Matt www.distantsunstudios.uk
I agree with the philosophy of function and sonics. I use Studio One 6 Pro and have already started using LUNA on Windows. Whilst it is slow in opening a session and does crash time to time, I am looking past these knowing they will be addressed because I can see how advanced and brilliant it is.
Hi, thanks so much for watching and leaving me a comment, it’s great to hear from you! That’s really interesting and something that I can’t escape either. There is definitely a reason why some of my favourite records of all time were recorded and then produced in what is essentially the analog version of Lunas workflow. Luna isn’t the finished article by any means, wow, what an incredible start. 👍 Thanks again again and take care Matt
@@DistantSunStudios Thanks for your reply Matt. It is appreciated. I'm already into a number of days using LUNA. I simply love it thus far. That too is an understatement. I have no doubt that LUNA can easily become the forerunner in the near future. Please continue working on its Windows version with full confidence. Making records in the present day with LUNA will certainly preserve the analogue philosophy. But it will also ignite an interest in the younger and newer gen of musicmakers to be instrumental in its preservation in the realisation that great records have a very distinct sound. Therefore LUNA. All the best.
I thjnk Luna is the most exciting DAW to come out in a long time and has a ton of potential. There are still things that need to be added such as hardware support, better MIDI funtionally etc, but I love Luna. It seems like UA has not spent a lot of time focuing on LUNA as their YT videos and live streams stopped a year ago and U?A has gone silent. Hope they continue to develop Luna.
Hi Dave, thanks so much for watching and taking the time to leave a comment below, I really appreciate it! Yes as you’ve probably gathered, I love Luna and completely agree - it has the potential to be outstanding. I’ve enjoyed many of your videos, keep up the hard work, it’s a fantastic channel 👍 thanks again and have a great day. Matt
I’ve been a UA Arrow/Apollo user for around 5 years now. I started with an Arrow and now I’ve gone a bit nuts: x8p, x8 and x4. I love the way everything sounds through this set-up. Live drums, live amps etc all sound superb tracking through the Apollos into Luna. I just wish Neve and SSL were built-in in the same way as API is.
Rack Apollo user since year one (FireWire model), day one Luna user. I LOVE the fact Luna doesn’t hundreds of features. It’s incredible for drum tracking, editing and exporting (drum sessions).
Hi, thanks so much for watching and taking the time to leave a comment I really appreciate it! It’s great to talk to a fellow FireWire, Apollo, User, and day one, Luna adopter! I have a real soft spot for mixing drums, and I totally agree, Luna is absolutely fantastic. So pleased that you enjoyed the video. Thanks again for watching and have a great weekend! Matt
Matt, you REALLY deserve a million more SUBS & views for what you are giving us all..... A Massive THANK YOU & Hats off for the ways you've are putting things thru... Subbed immediately & wish you the best in the Utube world of things... Cheers... Rezi "}
Hi, thanks so much for watching. I’m so pleased you enjoyed the video! Yes, the manuals are really fantastic aren’t they 👍 Thanks so much for taking the time to leave a comment. I really appreciate it. All the best, Matt.
Hi, thanks so much for watching I’m so pleased you enjoyed the interview. As you can probably tell, I really enjoyed making the video, Drew was incredibly generous with his time and very insightful throughout the conversation. Thanks again and have a great day 👍 All the best Matt
@@DistantSunStudios It was a very insightful interview, I've been in the UA ecosystem forever, have most of their plugins and a few interfaces and satellites Thanks again!
I love Luna so much, I jumped on it the second it came out, and was looking into getting an Apollo at the same time, I did and bought another one, I loved that it was only Mac, I love that it's AU and everything about it that it was for people like me ha. And that finally we have a great DAW that actually gives you an old school workflow and sonic signature
GOTTA FIX THE RENDER ISSUE!!! That meter maxes out extremely quick which causes the audio not to play properly. NO other DAW had this issue. Why is it using so much GPU?
Hi, thanks so much for watching and taking a time to comment. I really appreciate it 👍 I had the same issue with the render on a mix a few months back - where I was constantly in the red… However, following a recent update, I loaded the same session back in - and the render was absolutely fine now. I’m not sure if that will help, but thanks again for watching. All the best Matt
@@DistantSunStudios probably not. I have the most recent update already and I check every other day awaiting a new one. I’m on M2 Max, 96GB Ram. Should be very capable of running many channels of audio in LUNA.
@@blvkqmusicgroup I'm sorry to hear that. That's certainly a great Mac you've got there. One other thing I looked into a while ago with Render, was to adjust the resolution settings for my monitor (in the displays setting on your Mac system preferences). From memory, I think adjusting the scaling in the resolution did affect the render performance? At the time I did setup a support ticket with UA, and have to say. they were really helpful and talked me through it. Anyway, I hope that's some help and have a great week. All the best! Matt
I got it when I bought an Apollo 2 years ago.tried Luna and could not believe the sound from it. It was just so natural like it went through a desk. I moved all My projects the next day and haven’t really used logic since. It still needs some things but the sound outweighs all of that. Love it so much, I spent a small Fortune on the tape and summing But well worth it overall
Haha! It’s sounds like it’s coming 😊 thanks so much for watching and leaving the comment. It made me laugh and I really appreciate you taking the time to join the conversation! Thanks again, Matt
Tried it. Seemed really neat at first. I found out that I was unable to select multiple faders, and immediately stopped using it. If it doesn’t have a good workflow built in, it’s not a serious daw, it’s a gimmick.
i changed computers from the i 7 to 2 Mac Studio Ultra and I have the 6x Heritage and the uad2 quad i bought from Sweetwater. I have been a fan since 2011 I bought the Firewire quad about 2011 in switching over I am missing the plugins I had over 42 of them WOW Magic I know we will get it resolved but thank you I am 62 and did work at The Power Station in NY Studios even worked with Mimi Vice b philp Mikel Thomas his studio than Frank Tolins the first flying faders 48 track Neve board and all of the analog gear. then I worked at Frank Tolin Place Lime lite Studios the largest production center under one roof now it is Telemundo TV, which cost millions in the 1980s, To a home computer that can do it all( Amazing,) Thank you all at U A D ,Keep up the Great Work. Amazing I am a ghostwriter and it is nice to not have to relearn the tricks that made so many great albums
i'm working in ableton live but i'm searching for a new daw for recording, mixing and mastering....luna looks very interesting, especially the summing feature but i'm concerned that it lacks some features i need for mixing edm and hip hop
Hi, thanks so much for watching and leaving me a comment. I really appreciate it man. The two main features that Luna lacks at the moment hardware inserts (with delay compensation) and multi outputs for VST instruments. If these are not deal breakers for you, then I think Luna would actually be a great fit for your style of music. The extension integration and summing would really add incredible character to your tracks. When driven the Neve swimming in particular really add weight and punch the Max in a way that I’ve been unable to re-create in any other d.a.w. It’s free and I’m pretty sure you can trial all the extensions for 30 days. Give it a go hardly to know how you get on. 👍 Matt
@@DistantSunStudios please try this out in luna and another daw take some multitracks (i took the multitracks from a sample on splice) load up the multitracks in luna set every track -12db on the single channel fader (you can gainstage like you want, but in my case i had to put it -12db to not clip on the master) now put studer on every single tape channel and just change ips to 30 on mastertape put ampex and choose preset “classic 250 smooth mastering” activate neve summing sounds pretty good to me now open another daw (ableton in my case) load up the multitracks and do the same gain staging as in luna on master put softube tape, change it to type B and put crosstalk to 99% does it sound pretty similar or am i crazy and near deaf? please let me know!
@@snubdawg1386 thanks so much for coming back to me - I’m sure you’re not going deaf! It’s the culmination effect of the extensions across all the tracks, and the effortless integration that I like in Luna. I’m also a big fan of softtube, and have their console one MK3. I was mixing on it only this morning and absolutely love it. However, if I’m entirely reliant on using the drive and tape on individual tracks - although in solo things can sound great, the overall mix usually ends up slightly muddy, and I have to go back to clean things up. This is why Luna is different for me, it reminds me of when I used to mix through a console to tape. The extensions are built into the software and have been modelled on a console as a unit if that makes sense?. You can just switch them on and it just works. Everyone will have their own preference for working, and I’m certainly not saying that I’m right! Definitely use whatever works well for you and gets you there quickly. Also, most importantly, use whatever you really enjoy working on, after all, that’s what it’s all about! Take care and thanks again 👍 Matt
I'm here to see what makes Luna special. I'm curious about the rave of using it to mix. The free version is free, but you need the Pro version to get the real sound of Luna, from what I'm seeing. So yeah, I'm onboard so far. I'm impressed so far.
Hi, thanks so much for watching and leaving a comment. I really appreciate it. It makes a real difference to my channel. I think you’re absolutely right, although the free version is fantastic (and it’s free!), to fully appreciate the sonics that the tape console and summing ads to a mix- the pro bundle is definitely the way to go. I believe you can have a free 30 day trial and also download existing sessions from Drew and other high-end producers so you can get in the mix and see exactly what the extensions are doing. Thanks again for watching. Have a great evening. 👍 Matt
And by the way, because of this interview and a few of your other videos on Luna, I went on ahead and purchased Luna Pro. Thank you for sharing the info.@@DistantSunStudios
Thanks so much for watching and letting me know. I’m so pleased that you found my videos helpful. Enjoy the pro bundle I still get excited now, 4 years in every time I sit down to create a new mix in Luna! All the best, Matt
Luna for windows is trying to become a combination of Harrison's Mixbus GUI with Apple's Logic Pro features and functions. But still I prefer Logic Pro for Music Production & Audio Pre-production and Mixbus for Audio Post-production. I do use UAD plugins during Audio Production that I have purchased. But I am not using Luna because it lacks many features that Logic Pro and Mixbus have and the ease of working with it (not user friendly as compared to Logic Pro and Mixbus). I tried Luna to produce my music but it need to include more features and functions to attract more Windows users.
Hi Steve, thanks so much for watching! Yes, Luna really does sound fantastic doesn’t it 😉 It’s no surprise that so many incredible records were made using this workflow but in the analog world. Like you, if I have to use something different as the features I need aren’t in LUNA yet, it’s no big deal. I then just export the audio and mix back in from there. Thanks again and I’m so pleased you’re enjoying Luna as much as I am. Matt.
Nope. The only Neve LUNA Extension is the summing. The only channel strip extension os the Api. We are all waiting for another console extension - which could be Api or SSL.
excellent daw but I would like to be able to manage my external hardware by compensating the latency as I do in studio one with pipeline... when it happens I'll buy it
Hey - thanks so much for watching and taking the time to comment. I really appreciate it! Yes, hardware inserts with delay compensation are still to come, but Drew did mention at the end of the interview that they are one of the most requested features along with multi outs for VI’s.👍 I think you may have guessed the other company 😉 Thanks again for watching and have a great weekend! Matt
The internal channel routing could be better... there are simple things that are impossible to do... the good thing is that LUNA doesn't need to reinvent the wheel!
Yep - absolutely. I think that’s why its UI is so clean and implemented so well. Better to build on solid foundations, than trying to fix a poor initial design. When they update, it only adds to an already great experience. 👍 Thanks so much for watching! Matt
I was excited about the sound of Luna but I can't use a DAW that's giving unrecognizable names to my files in the audio files folder. I need to be able to go in there and find what I want if I need to. That was enough for me to go back to my other DAW.
Hi, thanks so much for watching and taking the time to comment. Great to hear that you enjoyed trying out Luna and liked the sound that it creates. A real shame that the naming of the audio files in the backend if Luna is a dealbreaker for you. I’m not a software developer at all, so I don’t know if this could be changed with regard to the infrastructure of the software? Thanks again so much for watching and all the best 👍 Matt
Luna Pro is fantastic for that API analogue workflow and looks amazing on 5K displays. It’s simple and powerful and not bloated which is refreshing. Sure it lacks Logic and Cubase features but don’t use it exclusively Summing and mixing is the best in LUNA
Hi, thanks so much for watching it’s great to hear from you! Yes, I 100% agree The workflow and Luna is fantastic and the recreation of the API console sounds incredible. The only problem I have now is that you’ve mentioned a 5K monitor, which sounds brilliant so I may have to look into that 🤦😂 Thanks again, and have a great day! Matt
I am a recent Luna convert and now I just can't mix without it, I am currently only using it for stem mixing to get that particular sound and Luna does that, though I honestly think that you have to redesign the GUI, it is quite all over the place and unecessary, very cluttered and I believe this is what is keeping people from using it, otherwise soundwise it's just something that has been missing in the DAW world. Sound: 🙏 GUI: 🤯
Please add 32 Bit Floating point recording in Luna. I work in 32 Bit with all other DAW’s. That’s one of the things that’s holding me back from using it. Let’s make it happen in the next update UAD.
Is there any difference? I work at 96/24. I did a project for someone at 96/32 in Luna, basically exporting the wav files at 32 bit and it crushed my computer and took an age to upload them for the guy to download. I could not hear any difference between the 24 and 32 bit audio.
Hi - thanks so much for watching and leaving a comment - I say it all the time, but I really do appreciate it! I don’t know what features will be added to Luna, and when, you know as much as me 😊 However, if you were using Luna, I would advise you to request this using the feedback button as I know Connor at Universal audio reads all the feedback. I’m sure the request would reach him if you sent a message via the forum or the Support page on their website. I hope that it’s implemented soon for you, Luna is a fantastic program to work in. Thanks again for watching and have a great weekend 👍 Matt
Hello again! I’m so pleased that you found the captions useful, and very grateful that you have taken the time to let me know. Once I have finished editing one of my videos, I do then use a professional caption company called rev to create accurate captions for me. I then use a translation feature in TH-cam studio to create captions for 12 different languages - where I know that I have an audience. Thanks again for getting in touch and all the best 👍 Matt
ive been using uad since 2016 love the qualitu of the plugins and my apollo twin mk2 i like the LUNA extensions like the neve summing but i would say i do prefer tracking my vocals with pro tools, some things on luna are a bit off for me like no clip gain. it seems like a good daw but still having to learn its ins and outs is a bit annoying
Hi, thanks so much for watching and taking the time to leave a comment - I really appreciate it! Yes, when you engage the extensions in Luna, it really is magical and to mix through, makes such a difference to the cohesion of the track. I don’t know about yourself, but I also find that I no longer use so many plug-ins as the tape console and summing have done so much of the work already. Thanks again for watching and have a great day! Matt
Indeed, tracks require less processing as the extension do a lot of the heavy lifting. I have to say I’m not yet 100% into the Luna workflow but I force myself to use it every now and then. It’s a great DAW.
47:35 is like when I got the iZotope RX Essentials. I put it first on the main bus, then on a checking bus and fed it several channels to figure out what was causing an overdrive style humming. At then end I didn't use RX because the result sounded muffled. I used API Summing and Gain to handle it in the end. But without RX it would have taken me a lot longer to figure out what to do.
I’m a LUNA user since ver 1. I prefer LUNA for all the reasons you mentioned. What I don’t like is the lack of a ”save as” option where you can save your session as files in a folder like you can in most other DAWs.
Hi, thanks so much for watching and taking the time to comment. 👍 It’s great to hear that like myself, you an early adopter of Luna! Yes, the auto save in Luna is different to other DAW’s. If I want to save a particular stage of a recording or mix - then I tend to use the bookmark function. However, if I want to create an alternative mix, then I’ll save a new version. It is different to other, but you can also in the settings decide where you would like the session folder to be saved. In a roundabout way you get there! Thanks again, so much for watching and have a great day! Matt
I want a way to isolate console from Luna and use console the same way I do in other DAWs. I run an audient asp800 adat into an apollo twin and have console set up a very specific way that allows me to have all my keyboards, amps etc. plugged in and ready to go to either monitor or record. But LUNA wants to take over console not matter what I do, and I have tried EVERYTHING people have recommended on the forums, and what UAD talks about in terms of isolating channels and console tracking mode. I think LUNA is good for someone who has a very simple set-up.
Hi, thanks so much for watching and taking the time to comment. I really do appreciate it! I totally understand where you’re coming from. It’s great to have everything all set and ready to go for either recording or monitoring. I’m not the best place to help you with different interfaces as I just use UAD Apollo’s. It would certainly be worth while reaching out to Drew At UAD on Facebook. He’s incredibly knowledgeable and if anyone knows the answer - it will be him! Thanks again for watching and have a great day 👍 Matt
Hi, thanks so much for watching I really appreciate it! I haven’t tried Genome - but hopefully someone else in the comments will be able to help🤞 Have a great day, and thanks again for watching 👍 Matt
I use it for summing. What I want is for UA to partner with a console maker (API or Neve or SSL or whoever) and create a control surface that is essentially a full sized console that runs on LUNA / UAD on the back end. The idea of a “generic” control surface where you have to map generic physical knobs to virtual knobs seems so boring to me. The software is there. Now marry it to the hardware and take all of our money.
Hi Nick, thanks so much for watching. Great to hear from you! That’s a fantastic idea - I’d personally love that👍 I suppose with any hardware, there needs to be the demand in the marketplace for it to become a reality, but it is interesting to see that SSL are launching a plug-in to open up the UC1 controller with any third-party plug-ins. Additionally, I read recently a post that Softube are working on making VST and AU plug-ins accessible through their console one controller. Exciting times ahead! Thanks again for watching, all the best 👍 Matt
I’m interested in what’s happening here but I have to say: using good quality console emulators on every single track, with neve pre’s using tape sat on every track etc… has done just fine to create these things these fellows are talking about. One of these days I’m gonna have to try to bump a mix over to Luna just to give it a try and see what kind of major difference I’m hearing
LUNA is a very nice DAW. Just wish the midi editor was a little more ... (fill in the blank). A large amount of my writing; hobby; getting music together for church - is midi based. The editor in LUNA has a lot of opportunity for growth. With that said - the quality of the audio is fantastic!
Everyone in here saying Luna isn’t a “serious daw” needs to shut up lol. Not every DAW needs to do the same thing. Real ones know using multiple DAWs is the best way to go. Production in Logic, Editing and setting levels in Pro Tools then Mixing in Luna
Hi, thanks so much for watching and taking the time to leave a comment! Funny enough, you’re not the only oerson to mention to me that they would like to see Luna on the windows platform! 😉 In fairness to Drew, he did give the best answer that he can regarding support for windows at the end of the interview - so I’m sure it will be coming - it’s just a matter of when?! Thanks again so much for watching All the best Matt
The part about sound city v ocean way represents UAD right now. Part native part DSP.Uad need to take everything native as it’s a little half way house right now. I prefer sound city not because it’s better but because it’s in the box. Personally i think for the home recordist minimalism is awesome as it allows me a portable option without the need for external dsp. If we are going native i want to sell my satellite dsp before it’s worthless. PS I’m a fan. And uad has really allowed me to create great sonic recording on a poor mans budget. And luna is wicked.
PLEASE let us: Make folders (And folders within folders), and change shorctuts, to be able to transision from other DAWS, for now, it looks beautiful but it's 100% unusable, unless it's your first DAW and you don't mind looking at ALL your tracks at once. (Yes, I already sent feedback through the app many times)
I'm not sold yet. LUNA has promise. But lags on so many features compared to other DAWS. The plugins are good but not outdone by competitors. I would easily put Softube above UAD. Pulsar? Massive and MU are superior emulations of Manley. Lindell's API console is equally good. And then there's the UAD download that slams your computer with over 650 demo plugins. I nearly screamed my head off. I purchased the Sound City Studio emulation which is awesome. But I really didn't need 16 gigs of a demo dump. And for that stunt? I'm not buying anything for a while, if ever again.
One can remove the plugins that one doesn't need. Having said that, I think a lot of UA's plug-ins are some of the best around! I do us many other though. I don't use Luna, though.
That sounds wack ! UAconnect should not automatically dump every plugin on your system. The user has to physically press download then install for the install process to start and works on an individual basis. As dope as it may be Sound city is a cpu hog, 2 instances of the room algo munching over 25%. Softube manager is not perfect either, it will install vst 2/3 and aax formats and don't allow the user to choose a format at the cost of redundant disk space.. I do love their plugins and that they are well optimised for CPU efficiency.
I like LUNA, but it's not all bragging rights. Luna promised at the beginning that no file would ever be lost, even after the crash. Unfortunately, that is not the case today. Many times Luna crashes for no reason and I lose hours of work. My client, who just recorded the best guitar solo of his life, went to hit me. No auditioned unlimited undo works in these cases. Luna doesn't even have basic functionality like ARA or hardware insert after all these years. Often the sound is digitized for no reason. I have problems with delay compression for the CUE bus click in a full project Signal routing when multiple Apollo cards are involved is unnecessarily complicated. When reamping I have to switch the monitoring from the main 16x Apollo card to the silver Apollo if I want it to work. I still like LUNA but please work more precisely.
luna has a ton of issues just load bettermaker bus compressor or the new cenozoix compressor and your undo redo button refuses to work. the limit of 8 inserts, no real simple ability to put hardware inserts and alot of other usability and user friendly features that are missing or implemented wrong. to say all of that its free so really i cant complain i still used it for the last 2 and half years over all other daws until recent headaches sent me running back to studio one. what it does well it does VERY WELL elite even recording and mixing in luna is better then any daw out there until all the issues rear their ugly heads. if universal audio fixes alot of issues and add some of the great stuff other daws have plus please give me more inserts lol they will run the recording mixing daw world. its just not ready for the big leagues yet
A ton of issues? It really hasn't. I've been using it for a few years and never had a bug or hang/crash. It isn't a midi beast like Cubase, Logic or Ableton Live, but it's outstanding with audio.
Hi, thanks so much for watching and taking the time to comment - I really appreciate it! I can see that you have used Luna for 2 1/2 years - and clearly enjoyed the software, although it’s a shame that its limitations for you have led you back to studio one. However, Studio one is a fantastic piece of software. 👍 Thanks again for watching, and I do hope a later version of Luna may entice you back! All the best Matt
Hi Chris, I’m like you and don’t use a great deal midi, however, like you said Luna is outstanding for audio. I genuinely feel like I’m getting a glimpse into what it would be like to produce at Abbie Road! Have a great evening , all the best Matt
@@ChrisWhittenMusic I’m sorry sir it does have a ton of issues I’m using it as well for 2 and a half years! Again I stated one issue with using certain compressors Again put the better maker bus compressor or Cenozoix on any track and the undo redo function becomes broken to say there are no issues might be true for yourself but I can point you to forums where people are having similar issues of many different kinds! Which is the reason and I give universal audio credit they are constantly updating LUNA and if you have paid attention to your UPDATES you will see they are constantly fixing issues that break Luna! Luna it self crashes every time you turn your monitor (computer screen) off that’s been a long standing issue that a ton of people have had. It’s been that way for the whole 2 and 1/2 years.
@@malakiy8688 Some people will always have some issues. I'm on the UAD forum and obviously see the issues that come up and they are often a conflict between 3rd party software and Luna. No, Luna never crashes on me, let alone when the monitor is turned off. Yes, I update Luna constantly but have never experienced any of the 'bugs; that they have 'fixed'. All software updates include big fixes, even Pro Tools, Logic, Softube etc, that doesn't mean most of the users are suffering crashes and freezes.
They're good but not at another level. When you test and compare its not like mind blowing difference.. Great guy though and very very talented.. 2 years on a plugin and really not a huge difference and some others sound better. In a mix it's hard to tell what anyone is using but to each his own. Record great tracks and everything is a lot easier..
Very disappointed and dissatisfied with Luna. Was hoping to switch from Logic but came across issues when their “native plugins” required UA hardware, which I don’t need. And also found you can’t use external hardware within Luna is disappointing. So I passed and went back to Logic.
Hi, thanks so much for watching and taking the time to comment. It really helps my channel and it’s great to hear from you. Yes, hardware inserts with delay compensation are still a feature that Luna doesn’t currently have. I know that it’s no help today, but as I understand it hardware inserts are one of the most highly requested features for Luna . Unfortunately - if you rely on them in your workflow- then Luna probably isn’t for you yet. It’s great to hear that you’ve given it a try though. Thanks again for watching and have a great day 👍 Matt
Luna is kind of an odd endeavour full of contradictions. It won't let you use VST3 but they obviously could if they wanted to. After all, Softube Console One works perfectly well in Luna as VST3 as do all the SSL channel strips. You can't purchase the Neve summing strip to go with the API one unless you have an UAD audio interface, however in the trial version of Luna Pro, the Neve summing works just fine without an Apollo interface. WTF are they on? And lastly, to claim how far they have come in a comparatively short time compared to other daws is just bullcrap. Luna is riding on the backs of every other daw that paved the way for the last 30 odd years.
Of course Luna is hype. It's a daw ...and not even an especially good daw because it lacks too many features that have been standard on other daws for years. I think the original intent, when Luna was prematurely released early in the pandemic, was to catch Luna up quickly because UA saw the development of proprietary plugins for Luna as a new revenue stream. But along come those M1 Macs with their ridiculous amounts of processing power and suddenly UA's DSP scheme (which was a wonderful thing for many users with computers too underpowered for their projects) is looking very long in the tooth almost instantly. So the people who were going to work on catching Luna up with the industry, now have to work to move plugins over to native processing because UA loses too many customers. And years later, UA hasn't done either thing very well. Luna is still lagging behind just about every other daw and UA's native rollout is, at best, like a faucet with a slow drip. That neither move has produced desired revenues is evident as UA is now reneging on a statement they made in response to a pissed off customer base when they first started rolling out native versions of plugins. They told customers that if you owned a dsp version of a native plugin, the native plugin would be free. And that was true... for a while. They would roll out a native plugin and the license would be added to your account if you owned the dsp version. That has now changed. As it sits today, the customer has to use a coupon placed in their cart to add the license to their system. And if you don't do it within 30 days, you'll have to pay $3 for it. They're opening the door to charging us twice for the very thing they said they would not charge us for. A quick glance at the UA forum, as well as threads on various music forums and within Facebook groups, makes it clear no small number of customers are unhappy with this move. But these are problems of UA's own making. That sat on their reputation for far too long. It's true that they once sat atop the plugin mountain, clearly the best of the lot and by some distance. However, the competition has caught up and there are great plugin alternatives to UA. In addition, the dsp chips UA uses are no more powerful today than they were more than fifteen years ago when UAD-2 was first introduced. In tech time, fifteen years is an eternity.
Tried Luna for Windows, since im fed up with Apples money grabbing policy and moved to PC. It cant hold a candle to Pro Tools or any other pro DAW in an unforeseeable future. It keeps crashing on even the most basic setup with UADs own hardware (x8) and defaults to ASIO. It has problems running above 48kHz and crashes consistently. It keeps crashing when using 3rd party virtual Instrument plugins like East West and cannot separate Virtual instruments in sub-tracks, something that is a dealbreaker when using orchestra and drums. Its a banana product at this stage and a vehicle to sell UADs plugin and totally unworthy of a pros time and effort. If I am to participate in software development then dear Universal Audio pay me or do a better job!
Hi Scooby Doo! Thanks so much for watching and taking the time to comment. Yes, I’m sure there is a lot to do before the beta version becomes stable and it officially released for Windows. Some of the features that you’ve mentioned, I’ve been highly requested and I’m sure will come to Luna in time. Until then, it will need to be more established DAW for you but it’s great that you’ve given Luna a try.👍 Thanks again for watching, all the best, Matt
Did drew really call UA marketing “top notch”? I love UA and my UA gear but their marketing is a dumpster fire, to the point I unsubbed from their emails. You get coupons you dont have, they give away plugins and take them back and this is all within the last couple years. Again, they make great products but their own marketing department shoots the whole company in the foot. That and their ADD style product releases. 400 dollar guitar pedals coming out left and right while their DAW, plugins and hardware needs attention. Leave pedals to BOSS, keep innovating great studio gear.
Hi, thanks so much for leaving a comment. I totally understand your frustration that Luna isn’t currently available for PC uses. At the end of the interview, I did ask Drew if Windows support will be coming and he answered the question as well as he can at this moment in time. As UA’s marketing policy is not to announce any products or future updates before they are released (so that you can download or buy them on that day), I had, in fairness, put him in an impossible position! We did discuss other areas away from Luna if you’re interested, I’ve included chapter markers, so you can jump to the different parts of the interview. Thanks again for taking the time to comment, I do really appreciate it 👍 All the best Matt
Luna for Windows? What for? Windows will NEVER EVER have a big user community within the professional music production world and that is due to the fact that Windows itself is not stable not reliable and not flexible and fast enough for music production. I’d propose a iPad LUNA would make much more sense as iOS is coming fast - it is the most modern and lean operating system today. Also, I would integrate MIDI MPE as fast as possible into Luna.
Luna is different than other DAWs indeed, it doesn't have any functions many people need on a daily basis that other DAWs do have. At this point you're better off with Garageband.
Short on time? - quick links for today's video:
00:00 "It's like death by 1000 paper cuts!"
00:11 Intro
06:54 Pre Universal Audio
17:14 UAD Plugins
21:53 Luna's Cumulative Effect
28:46 Why Luna’s Different
37:14 Sound City Studios
46:56 Vintage v/s AI
50:18 What's next for Luna?
Thanks so much for watching!
Matt
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Reading the UAD plugins manual is one of my favorite things about them. So much background info into the gear being modeled. Very enlightening.
I’m going to have to read up on the manual as well
This might be a weird request, but can you tell me how to open it? I had it open the other day, loving it as much as you do, even though i had just started getting into it, not sure why i have not been digging through it daily, anyway, my laptop crashed and now i had to backup as much as i could and so it wasn't in the "open recent" tab of the preview anymore and now when i click on the file it opens in hundreds of windows with thousands of tabs and just looks so weird compared to the compact, great looking manual it was before.
I am sorry to bother you with this, i am still a stoneage ooga ooga man when it comes to computers, haha, truly awful, if it were up to me i'd have a console, tape machine and some sweet outboard, but here i am, broke with a broken laptop, hehe, i would really appreciate me if you could show me in the right direction, so i can enjoy that brilliant manual again in the future, thank you!
Huge props for UAD for making plugins native to mac users. I was blown away by LUNA and extensions and plugins. Now I’m your client, that’s for sure 👍
Hi, thanks so much for watching and those lovely words for Universal audio I know they will be greatly appreciated 👍
It’s great to hear how much you’re enjoying Luna, the extensions and plug-ins for your music.
Thanks again so much for watching and taking the time to comment..
All the best, and have a fantastic day!
Matt
Same.
Lots of questions thank you guys for the informative video. I think LUNA should not change from it's base because as a person who discovered Luna recently I believe the wheel shouldn't be re-invented but instead the system of the right way to approach music production since it would definitely be unwise to not take into fruition the workings of our fore fathers in audio that already made the tools for the challenges, problems or solutions we set out to quantify each day. On a side note, Oxide Tape on my vocal track has been the age old answer to reducing that high end frequency that riddled me for years 🎧
UA needs to build its own DAW Controller.
OR, adopt Eucon!
Softube already did.
Yes! That's what I thought 28:30, the analog summing emulation in Luna is more than just plugins. A UAD representative wrote somewhere that the op-amps in the summing circuits have been simulated in Luna. I don't know if it's still digital linear addition in the final summing in Luna but at least not just plugins.
Drew is pretty damn awesome for doing an interview with a small channel...much respect!
Luna it's great, and Drew the best UA guru!
LUNA rocks! Drew rocks too! Don't forget that LUNA is a DREW, Digital Recording and Editing Workstation ! 😆! Cheers, Chris Mataran @Riffs&Tones Café
Drew from Baltimore??? Dude!! My first big project was at a studio of yours in Parkville! LOVED It!
Hi Jerry - it’s a small world!
Great to hear from you, and thanks so much for watching.
All the best 👍
Matt
Luna+summing+api console and all UA plugins has put me in another realm of producing..
Hey @musicman3000 - thanks so much for watching and taking the time to comment - I really appreciate it. Yep, I 100% agree, you can move fast and the sonic's are incredible. Have a great weekend and thanks again, Matt
Good morning guys, hello Matt and Drew, what a lovely surprise with your interview this morning. Have a lovely day😀. Best wishes from BREGN, Denmark🇩🇰
Hey @begn - thanks so much, you're very welcome! I just listened to your track Wind - what a beautiful song. Anyone reading this - check out this track: th-cam.com/video/CICPeIXxEqw/w-d-xo.htmlsi=vxPWVaiqZ8psJeea Thanks again for watching man, have a great weekend! Matt
@@DistantSunStudios Thank you so so much Matt. Your feedback warms my heart😀
@@bregn you’re very welcome. I really enjoyed the song and hope many people get to hear it - it’s a beautiful track. Fantastic work 😊
I just did my first full song on Luna and filmed it. Working on editing. It will be on my channel. The process was so fun and I really love the sound. The summing is fantastic and I have the ATR tape emulation and that really helped smooth it out. Luna is the future. It just needs a few more features in order for it replace pro tools for me.
Hey Jack, thanks so much for watching and taking the time to leave a comment -I really appreciate it.
Yes, the summing and tape extensions really do make an impact on how you mix don’t they.
I’ll look forward to checking out the video when you’ve uploaded the track on your TH-cam channel 👍
Have a great day, and thanks again for watching!
Matt
Great experience using Luna on my last mixing project. I started using Logic for tracking then Luna for mixing.
Exactly what I do. Logic for producing and then mixing in Luna
"It would be great for LUNA to have the same features as Logic or Pro Tools integrated, so we can record and mix seamlessly." 😅
Hey - thanks so much for watching and taking the time to comment -I really do appreciate it!
That sounds like a workflow that is working really well for you! In many ways, it’s similar to how records used to be made when they were tracked in a studio space then often send to a different studio, with a different console etc. to be mixed.
Very cool, using what works best for you! Great stuff 👍
Have a great weekend,
Matt
same here!
Sincere and with passion!
I really like how well you explain everything,Distant Sun,in Luna❤
Thanks so much for your kind words, that’s really made my day! I always write a script for each video and try my best to explain things both visually and with language that will be easily understood and try my best to avoid jargon that is of no use to anyone!
Interestingly, I named my Studio after the crowded house song Distant Sun, written by Neil Finn. But I see what you did there never occurred to me what a good fit it is with Luna!
Have a great weekend and all the best!
Matt
@@DistantSunStudios actually I can really understand how well you teach things , I will be binging your videos shortly
@@kevinlentz7604 thanks so much! That’s really great to hear! I don’t know if you have come across my website, but all the videos are on there and you can easily filter by category to find what you want.
Have a great weekend and thanks again!
Matt
www.distantsunstudios.uk
I agree with the philosophy of function and sonics. I use Studio One 6 Pro and have already started using LUNA on Windows. Whilst it is slow in opening a session and does crash time to time, I am looking past these knowing they will be addressed because I can see how advanced and brilliant it is.
Hi, thanks so much for watching and leaving me a comment, it’s great to hear from you! That’s really interesting and something that I can’t escape either.
There is definitely a reason why some of my favourite records of all time were recorded and then produced in what is essentially the analog version of Lunas workflow.
Luna isn’t the finished article by any means, wow, what an incredible start. 👍
Thanks again again and take care
Matt
@@DistantSunStudios Thanks for your reply Matt. It is appreciated. I'm already into a number of days using LUNA. I simply love it thus far. That too is an understatement. I have no doubt that LUNA can easily become the forerunner in the near future. Please continue working on its Windows version with full confidence. Making records in the present day with LUNA will certainly preserve the analogue philosophy. But it will also ignite an interest in the younger and newer gen of musicmakers to be instrumental in its preservation in the realisation that great records have a very distinct sound. Therefore LUNA. All the best.
I thjnk Luna is the most exciting DAW to come out in a long time and has a ton of potential. There are still things that need to be added such as hardware support, better MIDI funtionally etc, but I love Luna. It seems like UA has not spent a lot of time focuing on LUNA as their YT videos and live streams stopped a year ago and U?A has gone silent. Hope they continue to develop Luna.
Hi Dave, thanks so much for watching and taking the time to leave a comment below, I really appreciate it!
Yes as you’ve probably gathered, I love Luna and completely agree - it has the potential to be outstanding.
I’ve enjoyed many of your videos, keep up the hard work, it’s a fantastic channel 👍
thanks again and have a great day.
Matt
I’ve been a UA Arrow/Apollo user for around 5 years now. I started with an Arrow and now I’ve gone a bit nuts: x8p, x8 and x4. I love the way everything sounds through this set-up. Live drums, live amps etc all sound superb tracking through the Apollos into Luna.
I just wish Neve and SSL were built-in in the same way as API is.
Rack Apollo user since year one (FireWire model), day one Luna user. I LOVE the fact Luna doesn’t hundreds of features. It’s incredible for drum tracking, editing and exporting (drum sessions).
Hi, thanks so much for watching and taking the time to leave a comment I really appreciate it!
It’s great to talk to a fellow FireWire, Apollo, User, and day one, Luna adopter! I
have a real soft spot for mixing drums, and I totally agree, Luna is absolutely fantastic.
So pleased that you enjoyed the video.
Thanks again for watching and have a great weekend!
Matt
Matt, you REALLY deserve a million more SUBS & views for what you are giving us all..... A Massive THANK YOU & Hats off for the ways you've are putting things thru...
Subbed immediately & wish you the best in the Utube world of things... Cheers... Rezi "}
Drew at UA is amazing!
I’ve been using Luna for the last 6-7 months. I’m loving Luna so far it’s my favorite! I have SO,Cubase,Logic and pro tools lol.
better then pro tools?
@@manykzdj792 they’re both great but for me I think it’s better. Luna is very young with a very bright future!
@@manykzdj792not far behind pro tools. Luna feels like a modern version of pro tools if that make’s sense.
Tthe UA manuals are a mini-course all to themselves. Great video! Thank you guys.
Hi, thanks so much for watching. I’m so pleased you enjoyed the video! Yes, the manuals are really fantastic aren’t they 👍 Thanks so much for taking the time to leave a comment. I really appreciate it. All the best, Matt.
Drew is a great resource for the UA user community
Hi Steve, yes Drew sure is and he’s a really cool dude as well! 👍
Great interview ❤
Thanks for this interview, I just found your channel. Good to see and hear Mr. Mazurek, He's been very helpful to me at UA Forum.
Hi, thanks so much for watching I’m so pleased you enjoyed the interview.
As you can probably tell, I really enjoyed making the video, Drew was incredibly generous with his time and very insightful throughout the conversation.
Thanks again and have a great day 👍
All the best
Matt
@@DistantSunStudios It was a very insightful interview, I've been in the UA ecosystem forever, have most of their plugins and a few interfaces and satellites Thanks again!
Thanks again so much, it sounds like we’re very like-minded souls!
Have a great evening and all the best 👍
Matt
I love Luna so much, I jumped on it the second it came out, and was looking into getting an Apollo at the same time, I did and bought another one, I loved that it was only Mac, I love that it's AU and everything about it that it was for people like me ha. And that finally we have a great DAW that actually gives you an old school workflow and sonic signature
GOTTA FIX THE RENDER ISSUE!!! That meter maxes out extremely quick which causes the audio not to play properly. NO other DAW had this issue. Why is it using so much GPU?
Hi, thanks so much for watching and taking a time to comment. I really appreciate it 👍
I had the same issue with the render on a mix a few months back - where I was constantly in the red…
However, following a recent update, I loaded the same session back in - and the render was absolutely fine now.
I’m not sure if that will help, but thanks again for watching.
All the best
Matt
@@DistantSunStudios probably not. I have the most recent update already and I check every other day awaiting a new one.
I’m on M2 Max, 96GB Ram. Should be very capable of running many channels of audio in LUNA.
@@blvkqmusicgroup I'm sorry to hear that. That's certainly a great Mac you've got there. One other thing I looked into a while ago with Render, was to adjust the resolution settings for my monitor (in the displays setting on your Mac system preferences). From memory, I think adjusting the scaling in the resolution did affect the render performance? At the time I did setup a support ticket with UA, and have to say. they were really helpful and talked me through it. Anyway, I hope that's some help and have a great week. All the best! Matt
I got it when I bought an Apollo 2 years ago.tried Luna and could not believe the sound from it. It was just so natural like it went through a desk. I moved all
My projects the next day and haven’t really used logic since. It still needs some things but the sound outweighs all of that.
Love it so much, I spent a small
Fortune on the tape and summing
But well worth it overall
He's right. Superior Drummer through tape and Neve summing is just perfect.
Multi-out! Multi-out! Multi-out! Multi-out! Multi-out! Multi-out! Multi-out! Multi-out! Multi-out! Multi-out!
Haha! It’s sounds like it’s coming 😊 thanks so much for watching and leaving the comment. It made me laugh and I really appreciate you taking the time to join the conversation! Thanks again, Matt
Tried it. Seemed really neat at first. I found out that I was unable to select multiple faders, and immediately stopped using it. If it doesn’t have a good workflow built in, it’s not a serious daw, it’s a gimmick.
You can select multiple faders.
You did something wrong then. And then you just gave up. 🤦♂️
Yah LUNA is insane good, I played with it in my friends studio and I want it
i changed computers from the i 7 to 2 Mac Studio Ultra and I have the 6x Heritage and the uad2 quad i bought from Sweetwater. I have been a fan since 2011 I bought the Firewire quad about 2011 in switching over I am missing the plugins I had over 42 of them WOW Magic I know we will get it resolved but thank you I am 62 and did work at The Power Station in NY Studios even worked with Mimi Vice b philp Mikel Thomas his studio than Frank Tolins the first flying faders 48 track Neve board and all of the analog gear. then I worked at Frank Tolin Place Lime lite Studios the largest production center under one roof now it is Telemundo TV, which cost millions in the 1980s, To a home computer that can do it all( Amazing,) Thank you all at U A D ,Keep up the Great Work. Amazing I am a ghostwriter and it is nice to not have to relearn the tricks that made so many great albums
Great video. Drew for sure is knowledgeable. UA buy him a new web cam.
we all love this new UAD DAW!
Hey man, great to hear from you and thanks so much for leaving a comment.
Yeah, 💯 - I love working in Luna!
All the best
Matt
i'm working in ableton live but i'm searching for a new daw for recording, mixing and mastering....luna looks very interesting, especially the summing feature but i'm concerned that it lacks some features i need for mixing edm and hip hop
Hi, thanks so much for watching and leaving me a comment. I really appreciate it man.
The two main features that Luna lacks at the moment hardware inserts (with delay compensation) and multi outputs for VST instruments.
If these are not deal breakers for you, then I think Luna would actually be a great fit for your style of music.
The extension integration and summing would really add incredible character to your tracks. When driven the Neve swimming in particular really add weight and punch the Max in a way that I’ve been unable to re-create in any other d.a.w. It’s free and I’m pretty sure you can trial all the extensions for 30 days. Give it a go hardly to know how you get on. 👍
Matt
@@DistantSunStudios please try this out in luna and another daw
take some multitracks (i took the multitracks from a sample on splice)
load up the multitracks in luna
set every track -12db on the single channel fader (you can gainstage like you want, but in my case i had to put it -12db to not clip on the master)
now put studer on every single tape channel and just change ips to 30
on mastertape put ampex and choose preset “classic 250 smooth mastering”
activate neve summing
sounds pretty good to me
now open another daw (ableton in my case)
load up the multitracks and do the same gain staging as in luna
on master put softube tape, change it to type B and put crosstalk to 99%
does it sound pretty similar or am i crazy and near deaf?
please let me know!
@@snubdawg1386 thanks so much for coming back to me - I’m sure you’re not going deaf!
It’s the culmination effect of the extensions across all the tracks, and the effortless integration that I like in Luna.
I’m also a big fan of softtube, and have their console one MK3.
I was mixing on it only this morning and absolutely love it. However, if I’m entirely reliant on using the drive and tape on individual tracks - although in solo things can sound great, the overall mix usually ends up slightly muddy, and I have to go back to clean things up.
This is why Luna is different for me, it reminds me of when I used to mix through a console to tape.
The extensions are built into the software and have been modelled on a console as a unit if that makes sense?. You can just switch them on and it just works.
Everyone will have their own preference for working, and I’m certainly not saying that I’m right!
Definitely use whatever works well for you and gets you there quickly.
Also, most importantly, use whatever you really enjoy working on, after all, that’s what it’s all about!
Take care and thanks again 👍
Matt
I'm here to see what makes Luna special. I'm curious about the rave of using it to mix. The free version is free, but you need the Pro version to get the real sound of Luna, from what I'm seeing. So yeah, I'm onboard so far. I'm impressed so far.
Hi, thanks so much for watching and leaving a comment. I really appreciate it. It makes a real difference to my channel.
I think you’re absolutely right, although the free version is fantastic (and it’s free!), to fully appreciate the sonics that the tape console and summing ads to a mix- the pro bundle is definitely the way to go.
I believe you can have a free 30 day trial and also download existing sessions from Drew and other high-end producers so you can get in the mix and see exactly what the extensions are doing.
Thanks again for watching. Have a great evening. 👍
Matt
And by the way, because of this interview and a few of your other videos on Luna, I went on ahead and purchased Luna Pro. Thank you for sharing the info.@@DistantSunStudios
Thanks so much for watching and letting me know. I’m so pleased that you found my videos helpful. Enjoy the pro bundle I still get excited now, 4 years in every time I sit down to create a new mix in Luna! All the best, Matt
Thank you and I'm glad I subscribed!!!!@@DistantSunStudios
@@SouthernEmperor Thanks again man - it's great to have you following the channel! 👍
Luna for windows is trying to become a combination of Harrison's Mixbus GUI with Apple's Logic Pro features and functions. But still I prefer Logic Pro for Music Production & Audio Pre-production and Mixbus for Audio Post-production. I do use UAD plugins during Audio Production that I have purchased. But I am not using Luna because it lacks many features that Logic Pro and Mixbus have and the ease of working with it (not user friendly as compared to Logic Pro and Mixbus). I tried Luna to produce my music but it need to include more features and functions to attract more Windows users.
LUNA simply sounds great and feels natural to use. It lacks certain features so I use LUNA when I can and others when I have too
Hi Steve, thanks so much for watching! Yes, Luna really does sound fantastic doesn’t it 😉 It’s no surprise that so many incredible records were made using this workflow but in the analog world. Like you, if I have to use something different as the features I need aren’t in LUNA yet, it’s no big deal. I then just export the audio and mix back in from there. Thanks again and I’m so pleased you’re enjoying Luna as much as I am. Matt.
So the only difference between the Luna Neve extension and putting a UAD neve pre on each channel in a different daw is gang controls?
Gang controls? Do you mean gain controls?
Nope. The only Neve LUNA Extension is the summing. The only channel strip extension os the Api. We are all waiting for another console extension - which could be Api or SSL.
excellent daw but I would like to be able to manage my external hardware by compensating the latency as I do in studio one with pipeline... when it happens I'll buy it
But you still can’t use hardware inserts inside of Luna like you can in other DAWS.
The other company is Waves.
Hey - thanks so much for watching and taking the time to comment. I really appreciate it! Yes, hardware inserts with delay compensation are still to come, but Drew did mention at the end of the interview that they are one of the most requested features along with multi outs for VI’s.👍
I think you may have guessed the other company 😉
Thanks again for watching and have a great weekend!
Matt
The internal channel routing could be better... there are simple things that are impossible to do... the good thing is that LUNA doesn't need to reinvent the wheel!
Yep - absolutely. I think that’s why its UI is so clean and implemented so well. Better to build on solid foundations, than trying to fix a poor initial design.
When they update, it only adds to an already great experience. 👍
Thanks so much for watching!
Matt
I have been using Luna since 2019. It keeps improving but if only would they remove unnecessary guess on users. Then it will be great
Can LUNA compensate for hardware insert latency now?
I was excited about the sound of Luna but I can't use a DAW that's giving unrecognizable names to my files in the audio files folder. I need to be able to go in there and find what I want if I need to. That was enough for me to go back to my other DAW.
Hi, thanks so much for watching and taking the time to comment.
Great to hear that you enjoyed trying out Luna and liked the sound that it creates.
A real shame that the naming of the audio files in the backend if Luna is a dealbreaker for you.
I’m not a software developer at all, so I don’t know if this could be changed with regard to the infrastructure of the software?
Thanks again so much for watching and all the best 👍
Matt
Luna Pro is fantastic for that API analogue workflow and looks amazing on 5K displays. It’s simple and powerful and not bloated which is refreshing. Sure it lacks Logic and Cubase features but don’t use it exclusively
Summing and mixing is the best in LUNA
Hi, thanks so much for watching it’s great to hear from you!
Yes, I 100% agree The workflow and Luna is fantastic and the recreation of the API console sounds incredible.
The only problem I have now is that you’ve mentioned a 5K monitor, which sounds brilliant so I may have to look into that 🤦😂
Thanks again, and have a great day!
Matt
Thanks! Best/Mathias
Hi, thanks so much for watching and getting in touch - you’re very welcome!
So pleased that you enjoyed the video.
All the best,
Matt
I am a recent Luna convert and now I just can't mix without it, I am currently only using it for stem mixing to get that particular sound and Luna does that, though I honestly think that you have to redesign the GUI, it is quite all over the place and unecessary, very cluttered and I believe this is what is keeping people from using it, otherwise soundwise it's just something that has been missing in the DAW world. Sound: 🙏 GUI: 🤯
Please add 32 Bit Floating point recording in Luna. I work in 32 Bit with all other DAW’s. That’s one of the things that’s holding me back from using it. Let’s make it happen in the next update UAD.
Good to know Lunar not 32bits ready…. Thanks
Is there any difference? I work at 96/24. I did a project for someone at 96/32 in Luna, basically exporting the wav files at 32 bit and it crushed my computer and took an age to upload them for the guy to download. I could not hear any difference between the 24 and 32 bit audio.
Hi - thanks so much for watching and leaving a comment - I say it all the time, but I really do appreciate it!
I don’t know what features will be added to Luna, and when, you know as much as me 😊
However, if you were using Luna, I would advise you to request this using the feedback button as I know Connor at Universal audio reads all the feedback.
I’m sure the request would reach him if you sent a message via the forum or the Support page on their website.
I hope that it’s implemented soon for you, Luna is a fantastic program to work in.
Thanks again for watching and have a great weekend 👍
Matt
obrigado caption pt br foi perfeito , obrigado ua por tudo , luna seja bem vinda , estou amando
Hello again! I’m so pleased that you found the captions useful, and very grateful that you have taken the time to let me know.
Once I have finished editing one of my videos, I do then use a professional caption company called rev to create accurate captions for me.
I then use a translation feature in TH-cam studio to create captions for 12 different languages - where I know that I have an audience.
Thanks again for getting in touch and all the best 👍
Matt
Lançam a Daw para windows mas não aceita outras interface,qual o sentido disso?!?, não consigo conectar minha Focus rite
Luna Needs a media browser like studio one that can warp/sync and import loops samples etc
ive been using uad since 2016 love the qualitu of the plugins and my apollo twin mk2 i like the LUNA extensions like the neve summing but i would say i do prefer tracking my vocals with pro tools, some things on luna are a bit off for me like no clip gain. it seems like a good daw but still having to learn its ins and outs is a bit annoying
Luna has clip gain.
I ve not used culture vulture. You guys like it?
Luna just sounds better than other DAWs for some reason. I tend to produce in Ableton and mix or master in Luna.
Hi, thanks so much for watching and taking the time to leave a comment - I really appreciate it!
Yes, when you engage the extensions in Luna, it really is magical and to mix through, makes such a difference to the cohesion of the track. I don’t know about yourself, but I also find that I no longer use so many plug-ins as the tape console and summing have done so much of the work already.
Thanks again for watching and have a great day!
Matt
Indeed, tracks require less processing as the extension do a lot of the heavy lifting. I have to say I’m not yet 100% into the Luna workflow but I force myself to use it every now and then. It’s a great DAW.
If it's not too much to ask, can you please make Luna for windows please and thank you good day
Done!
Luna is 🔥🔥🔥🔥
47:35 is like when I got the iZotope RX Essentials. I put it first on the main bus, then on a checking bus and fed it several channels to figure out what was causing an overdrive style humming. At then end I didn't use RX because the result sounded muffled. I used API Summing and Gain to handle it in the end. But without RX it would have taken me a lot longer to figure out what to do.
I’m a LUNA user since ver 1. I prefer LUNA for all the reasons you mentioned. What I don’t like is the lack of a ”save as” option where you can save your session as files in a folder like you can in most other DAWs.
Hi, thanks so much for watching and taking the time to comment. 👍
It’s great to hear that like myself, you an early adopter of Luna!
Yes, the auto save in Luna is different to other DAW’s. If I want to save a particular stage of a recording or mix - then I tend to use the bookmark function.
However, if I want to create an alternative mix, then I’ll save a new version.
It is different to other, but you can also in the settings decide where you would like the session folder to be saved.
In a roundabout way you get there!
Thanks again, so much for watching and have a great day!
Matt
I want a way to isolate console from Luna and use console the same way I do in other DAWs. I run an audient asp800 adat into an apollo twin and have console set up a very specific way that allows me to have all my keyboards, amps etc. plugged in and ready to go to either monitor or record. But LUNA wants to take over console not matter what I do, and I have tried EVERYTHING people have recommended on the forums, and what UAD talks about in terms of isolating channels and console tracking mode. I think LUNA is good for someone who has a very simple set-up.
Hi, thanks so much for watching and taking the time to comment. I really do appreciate it!
I totally understand where you’re coming from. It’s great to have everything all set and ready to go for either recording or monitoring.
I’m not the best place to help you with different interfaces as I just use UAD Apollo’s.
It would certainly be worth while reaching out to Drew At UAD on Facebook. He’s incredibly knowledgeable and if anyone knows the answer - it will be him!
Thanks again for watching and have a great day 👍
Matt
Can’t get Two Notes Genome to appear in Luna but Torpedo is there. Anyone have any suggestions?
Hi, thanks so much for watching I really appreciate it! I haven’t tried Genome - but hopefully someone else in the comments will be able to help🤞
Have a great day, and thanks again for watching 👍
Matt
I use it for summing.
What I want is for UA to partner with a console maker (API or Neve or SSL or whoever) and create a control surface that is essentially a full sized console that runs on LUNA / UAD on the back end.
The idea of a “generic” control surface where you have to map generic physical knobs to virtual knobs seems so boring to me.
The software is there. Now marry it to the hardware and take all of our money.
Hi Nick, thanks so much for watching. Great to hear from you!
That’s a fantastic idea - I’d personally love that👍
I suppose with any hardware, there needs to be the demand in the marketplace for it to become a reality, but it is interesting to see that SSL are launching a plug-in to open up the UC1 controller with any third-party plug-ins.
Additionally, I read recently a post that Softube are working on making VST and AU plug-ins accessible through their console one controller.
Exciting times ahead!
Thanks again for watching, all the best 👍
Matt
I’m interested in what’s happening here but I have to say: using good quality console emulators on every single track, with neve pre’s using tape sat on every track etc… has done just fine to create these things these fellows are talking about.
One of these days I’m gonna have to try to bump a mix over to Luna just to give it a try and see what kind of major difference I’m hearing
LUNA is a very nice DAW. Just wish the midi editor was a little more ... (fill in the blank). A large amount of my writing; hobby; getting music together for church - is midi based. The editor in LUNA has a lot of opportunity for growth. With that said - the quality of the audio is fantastic!
Wont run my pc….every other daw I’ve tried runs fine.
Everyone in here saying Luna isn’t a “serious daw” needs to shut up lol. Not every DAW needs to do the same thing. Real ones know using multiple DAWs is the best way to go. Production in Logic, Editing and setting levels in Pro Tools then Mixing in Luna
I'd love to give Luna a try, but alas, its Mac only 😢
Hi, thanks so much for watching and taking the time to leave a comment!
Funny enough, you’re not the only oerson to mention to me that they would like to see Luna on the windows platform! 😉
In fairness to Drew, he did give the best answer that he can regarding support for windows at the end of the interview - so I’m sure it will be coming - it’s just a matter of when?!
Thanks again so much for watching
All the best
Matt
When is LUNA coming to windows? I would like to use it but I'm definitely not going to a Mac.
Now!
Rick Rubin... ;-) yeey!
Haha! You’re good at this game 😂 Have a great day, Matt
The part about sound city v ocean way represents UAD right now. Part native part DSP.Uad need to take everything native as it’s a little half way house right now. I prefer sound city not because it’s better but because it’s in the box. Personally i think for the home recordist minimalism is awesome as it allows me a portable option without the need for external dsp. If we are going native i want to sell my satellite dsp before it’s worthless. PS I’m a fan. And uad has really allowed me to create great sonic recording on a poor mans budget. And luna is wicked.
Hello! The music in the intro is way too loud.
As bad as I want to learn this musical stuff, it just seems so technical to me right now…😢
PLEASE let us: Make folders (And folders within folders), and change shorctuts, to be able to transision from other DAWS, for now, it looks beautiful but it's 100% unusable, unless it's your first DAW and you don't mind looking at ALL your tracks at once. (Yes, I already sent feedback through the app many times)
It starts with an L?
I'm not sold yet. LUNA has promise. But lags on so many features compared to other DAWS. The plugins are good but not outdone by competitors. I would easily put Softube above UAD. Pulsar? Massive and MU are superior emulations of Manley. Lindell's API console is equally good. And then there's the UAD download that slams your computer with over 650 demo plugins. I nearly screamed my head off. I purchased the Sound City Studio emulation which is awesome. But I really didn't need 16 gigs of a demo dump. And for that stunt? I'm not buying anything for a while, if ever again.
It’s only the fourth or fifth year of this daw. It’s going to grow.
One can remove the plugins that one doesn't need. Having said that, I think a lot of UA's plug-ins are some of the best around! I do us many other though.
I don't use Luna, though.
That sounds wack ! UAconnect should not automatically dump every plugin on your system. The user has to physically press download then install for the install process to start and works on an individual basis. As dope as it may be Sound city is a cpu hog, 2 instances of the room algo munching over 25%.
Softube manager is not perfect either, it will install vst 2/3 and aax formats and don't allow the user to choose a format at the cost of redundant disk space.. I do love their plugins and that they are well optimised for CPU efficiency.
I like LUNA, but it's not all bragging rights. Luna promised at the beginning that no file would ever be lost, even after the crash. Unfortunately, that is not the case today. Many times Luna crashes for no reason and I lose hours of work. My client, who just recorded the best guitar solo of his life, went to hit me. No auditioned unlimited undo works in these cases.
Luna doesn't even have basic functionality like ARA or hardware insert after all these years.
Often the sound is digitized for no reason.
I have problems with delay compression for the CUE bus click in a full project
Signal routing when multiple Apollo cards are involved is unnecessarily complicated. When reamping I have to switch the monitoring from the main 16x Apollo card to the silver Apollo if I want it to work.
I still like LUNA but please work more precisely.
luna has a ton of issues just load bettermaker bus compressor or the new cenozoix compressor and your undo redo button refuses to work.
the limit of 8 inserts, no real simple ability to put hardware inserts and alot of other usability and user friendly features that are missing or implemented wrong.
to say all of that its free so really i cant complain i still used it for the last 2 and half years over all other daws until recent headaches sent me running back to studio one.
what it does well it does VERY WELL elite even recording and mixing in luna is better then any daw out there until all the issues rear their ugly heads.
if universal audio fixes alot of issues and add some of the great stuff other daws have plus please give me more inserts lol they will run the recording mixing daw world.
its just not ready for the big leagues yet
A ton of issues? It really hasn't. I've been using it for a few years and never had a bug or hang/crash. It isn't a midi beast like Cubase, Logic or Ableton Live, but it's outstanding with audio.
Hi, thanks so much for watching and taking the time to comment - I really appreciate it!
I can see that you have used Luna for 2 1/2 years - and clearly enjoyed the software, although it’s a shame that its limitations for you have led you back to studio one.
However, Studio one is a fantastic piece of software. 👍
Thanks again for watching, and I do hope a later version of Luna may entice you back!
All the best
Matt
Hi Chris, I’m like you and don’t use a great deal midi, however, like you said Luna is outstanding for audio. I genuinely feel like I’m getting a glimpse into what it would be like to produce at Abbie Road!
Have a great evening , all the best
Matt
@@ChrisWhittenMusic I’m sorry sir it does have a ton of issues I’m using it as well for 2 and a half years!
Again I stated one issue with using certain compressors
Again put the better maker bus compressor or Cenozoix on any track and the undo redo function becomes broken
to say there are no issues might be true for yourself but I can point you to forums where people are having similar issues of many different kinds!
Which is the reason and I give universal audio credit they are constantly updating LUNA and if you have paid attention to your UPDATES you will see
they are constantly fixing issues that break Luna!
Luna it self crashes every time you turn your monitor (computer screen) off that’s been a long standing issue that a ton of people have had. It’s been that way for the whole 2 and 1/2 years.
@@malakiy8688 Some people will always have some issues. I'm on the UAD forum and obviously see the issues that come up and they are often a conflict between 3rd party software and Luna.
No, Luna never crashes on me, let alone when the monitor is turned off. Yes, I update Luna constantly but have never experienced any of the 'bugs; that they have 'fixed'. All software updates include big fixes, even Pro Tools, Logic, Softube etc, that doesn't mean most of the users are suffering crashes and freezes.
Dans quelle résoltion travaille Luna 16 , 24 ou 32flottant bites
I love this:However, UA, you're a professional company please get Drew a better camera.. anything but that potato he's using. Thanks
They're good but not at another level. When you test and compare its not like mind blowing difference.. Great guy though and very very talented.. 2 years on a plugin and really not a huge difference and some others sound better. In a mix it's hard to tell what anyone is using but to each his own. Record great tracks and everything is a lot easier..
Very disappointed and dissatisfied with Luna. Was hoping to switch from Logic but came across issues when their “native plugins” required UA hardware, which I don’t need. And also found you can’t use external hardware within Luna is disappointing. So I passed and went back to Logic.
Only Neve summing and 1073 otherwise no hardware required
Hi, thanks so much for watching and taking the time to comment. It really helps my channel and it’s great to hear from you.
Yes, hardware inserts with delay compensation are still a feature that Luna doesn’t currently have.
I know that it’s no help today, but as I understand it hardware inserts are one of the most highly requested features for Luna .
Unfortunately - if you rely on them in your workflow- then Luna probably isn’t for you yet.
It’s great to hear that you’ve given it a try though.
Thanks again for watching and have a great day 👍
Matt
Luna is kind of an odd endeavour full of contradictions. It won't let you use VST3 but they obviously could if they wanted to. After all, Softube Console One works perfectly well in Luna as VST3 as do all the SSL channel strips. You can't purchase the Neve summing strip to go with the API one unless you have an UAD audio interface, however in the trial version of Luna Pro, the Neve summing works just fine without an Apollo interface. WTF are they on? And lastly, to claim how far they have come in a comparatively short time compared to other daws is just bullcrap. Luna is riding on the backs of every other daw that paved the way for the last 30 odd years.
Make luna's mixer work of a chip ,not the computer
Of course Luna is hype. It's a daw ...and not even an especially good daw because it lacks too many features that have been standard on other daws for years. I think the original intent, when Luna was prematurely released early in the pandemic, was to catch Luna up quickly because UA saw the development of proprietary plugins for Luna as a new revenue stream. But along come those M1 Macs with their ridiculous amounts of processing power and suddenly UA's DSP scheme (which was a wonderful thing for many users with computers too underpowered for their projects) is looking very long in the tooth almost instantly.
So the people who were going to work on catching Luna up with the industry, now have to work to move plugins over to native processing because UA loses too many customers. And years later, UA hasn't done either thing very well. Luna is still lagging behind just about every other daw and UA's native rollout is, at best, like a faucet with a slow drip.
That neither move has produced desired revenues is evident as UA is now reneging on a statement they made in response to a pissed off customer base when they first started rolling out native versions of plugins. They told customers that if you owned a dsp version of a native plugin, the native plugin would be free. And that was true... for a while. They would roll out a native plugin and the license would be added to your account if you owned the dsp version. That has now changed. As it sits today, the customer has to use a coupon placed in their cart to add the license to their system. And if you don't do it within 30 days, you'll have to pay $3 for it. They're opening the door to charging us twice for the very thing they said they would not charge us for.
A quick glance at the UA forum, as well as threads on various music forums and within Facebook groups, makes it clear no small number of customers are unhappy with this move. But these are problems of UA's own making. That sat on their reputation for far too long. It's true that they once sat atop the plugin mountain, clearly the best of the lot and by some distance. However, the competition has caught up and there are great plugin alternatives to UA. In addition, the dsp chips UA uses are no more powerful today than they were more than fifteen years ago when UAD-2 was first introduced. In tech time, fifteen years is an eternity.
Tried Luna for Windows, since im fed up with Apples money grabbing policy and moved to PC. It cant hold a candle to Pro Tools or any other pro DAW in an unforeseeable future. It keeps crashing on even the most basic setup with UADs own hardware (x8) and defaults to ASIO. It has problems running above 48kHz and crashes consistently. It keeps crashing when using 3rd party virtual Instrument plugins like East West and cannot separate Virtual instruments in sub-tracks, something that is a dealbreaker when using orchestra and drums. Its a banana product at this stage and a vehicle to sell UADs plugin and totally unworthy of a pros time and effort. If I am to participate in software development then dear Universal Audio pay me or do a better job!
Hi Scooby Doo! Thanks so much for watching and taking the time to comment. Yes, I’m sure there is a lot to do before the beta version becomes stable and it officially released for Windows. Some of the features that you’ve mentioned, I’ve been highly requested and I’m sure will come to Luna in time.
Until then, it will need to be more established DAW for you but it’s great that you’ve given Luna a try.👍
Thanks again for watching, all the best, Matt
Did drew really call UA marketing “top notch”? I love UA and my UA gear but their marketing is a dumpster fire, to the point I unsubbed from their emails. You get coupons you dont have, they give away plugins and take them back and this is all within the last couple years. Again, they make great products but their own marketing department shoots the whole company in the foot. That and their ADD style product releases. 400 dollar guitar pedals coming out left and right while their DAW, plugins and hardware needs attention. Leave pedals to BOSS, keep innovating great studio gear.
I'd actually bother watching this video if UAD actually made Luna available for free for PC....
Hi, thanks so much for leaving a comment.
I totally understand your frustration that Luna isn’t currently available for PC uses.
At the end of the interview, I did ask Drew if Windows support will be coming and he answered the question as well as he can at this moment in time.
As UA’s marketing policy is not to announce any products or future updates before they are released (so that you can download or buy them on that day), I had, in fairness, put him in an impossible position!
We did discuss other areas away from Luna if you’re interested, I’ve included chapter markers, so you can jump to the different parts of the interview.
Thanks again for taking the time to comment, I do really appreciate it 👍
All the best
Matt
@@DistantSunStudios Thank you
For now it’s really not a professional DAW. It’s lacking too many features to mention.
Luna for Windows? What for? Windows will NEVER EVER have a big user community within the professional music production world and that is due to the fact that Windows itself is not stable not reliable and not flexible and fast enough for music production. I’d propose a iPad LUNA would make much more sense as iOS is coming fast - it is the most modern and lean operating system today. Also, I would integrate MIDI MPE as fast as possible into Luna.
Luna is different than other DAWs indeed, it doesn't have any functions many people need on a daily basis that other DAWs do have. At this point you're better off with Garageband.