Without reading all of the comments below...I dont believe gravel was the cause of this. You entered into a curve at 80MPH without preparing to lean. You hesitated, then hit the brakes. Before you know it, you crossed the street and THEN hit some gravel as your tried to turn. Never brake when you enter a turn....you should have just let off the throttle and rode through it. Lastly....like Beagle Power said...Look where you want to go!
I read some comments about how & what you should have done.../whatever. To post this takes some courage. Not forgetting the expected slights to the ego from the world+dog who always know better about everything. You probably thought about this a million times already so this is really for the benefit of others. All things considered it's actually pretty enlightened to post this. Thank you and ride safe.
Glad you are ok. Hop back on and learn from your mistakes! Never ever stop looking at where you want to go. Next time you see some gravel, keep cool and adjust your line to avoid it (search youtube for videos about countersteering) or go over the gravel and hope for the best, but keep looking at where you want to go. Panicking braking in a corner is rarely the best solution. Oh, and keep looking at where you want to go :)
Survival Response no.1 and no.2. If you don't know what that is, go and find out. (Superbike school). Although quite a deceptive corner IMHO. Wide open sides and road giving a deception of speed safe, corner tightening over a brow, a small brow but making it blind none the less, and a bit of adverse camber. Easy to do. And we have all done it. I assume you had not ridden that road before. Dangerous because of possible oncoming traffic. It may not feel that way - but you were lucky. Training helps and it is fun. Thanks for posting. Lessons for all of us.
Many kind comments here,its nice to see.You bottled it.Plain and simple.That is not a slur on you're riding ability,manhood,penis size or any other childish nonsense.You just fooked the corner up like most of us reading this and was unlucky enough to have caused damage.Kudos for posting this and a lesson to us all.
Thank you for posting this. I'm a new rider and it's so easy to get carried away, especially after watching so many fast skilled riders on TH-cam all winter. This is a good reminder of what can happen in an instant.
I learned a great tip to get out of "comfort breaking" or even panic braking. Drop a gear (yes even mid corner) and further counter steer if you need too. Helps a lot if you realize your lines are off.
If we haven't all done already, we probably will, at some stage. Glad you're ok. I did the same thing on my Hayabusa. Just too fast to get round ( got slowed down from 150 mph to 75. Just a moment of "Red Mist" as we call it. Broken shoulder, rib and hand. Wasn't as bad as it sounds lol. Got new plastics for £550 from a drag racing outfit. Cheap fix considering. Funny, it didn't hurt that much at the time..but took the shoulder months. All fine now and a VFR 800 F1 which I take easy on now. Lesson learnt lol.
You made a mistake you get up, learn and move on. You should have been less worried about the gravel and more worried about that fence. Don't blame the gravel or your mistake was dodging the gravel and running into something else. STICK THE FUCKING CORNER, FUCK EVERYTHING ELSE.
If you fast forward to the 3:26 mark and drop it to .25 speed....look above the brake master cylinder and look at the road. You can see the Gravel he was trying to avoid. While I agree with other that it's not the main cause of the crash I can see the gravel on the road in the vid. It's there.
If you'd have hit gravel, your right cheek would have hit the Asphalt long before you left the road (like hitting diesel). You saw the gravel... panicked and changed your control inputs, thus standing the bike up and causing target fixation and you to plough on and into the ditch. Lesson learned.. nothing to be ashamed of we've all been there.. pick yourself up, dust yourself off and move on. If you can find another 800 (non V-Tec) great!! if not get a 750... you won't be disappointed. Happy motoring and thanks for sharing!
You nailed it-the "gravel" was only peripherally responsible for this wreck. This was rider-error, and totally avoidable. A dab of brake, counter steer and lean, and we'd have been on our merry way. Thank the god of your choice that there was no opposing traffic at the wrong time......
I suffered an exact same accident some years ago for being over the safe speed limit, it was a very twisty road with sharp corners, it was my first time there and was crusing at 80km/h when safe speed was less than 60km/h. Being on a HD FXST of course you don't have the fastest reaction time, it didn't brake fast enough (was downhill), I missed the corner, comitted target fixation on the other side of the road and ended and hit a sand wall slow enough to not hurt me. Ape hanger was bent. At least the rider here was not totaled.
We have all done it. I spooned my old R1 into the side of a JCB 8 years ago and count myself very lucky to have walked away from that. We have all opened up the throttle on an unfamiliar road and anyone on here that says they haven't is a liar Anyone on here being insulting will more than likely come a cropper too because we are human which means we cant see the future and we all panic to some degree. Keep riding just do it like I do and try to keep it shiny side up as best as possible. Cheers.
Find your nearest track and get as much training as possible! Not only is it a blast and you'll meet great people but it will drastically improve your riding in general, even on the street.
i think the crest of the slight hill prevented the comitment to the hard turn knowing the result would have probably been a tank slapper ending in a high side, its bad luck, but everytime you speed on a bike you know this could happen, thats why they have track days so you can get your balls content at the track, where it's safer... i hate to see this dude that bike sounded so good, it's a shame you went down, i hope everything turned out ok...
It hurts to wreck for sure. I just got bumps and bruises, had all my gear on and didn't hit anything solid. The bike unfortunately was totaled. I wish I had the camera on my helmet but i was wearing my winter helmet so i had the camera on the tank with a suction cup mount. the camera still works but the glass display broke so it's stuck on 1080 at 30fps. thanks for the nice comments and i enjoy your vids
being a fairly novice rider myself(about 8 months and 1500 miles under my belt) looks like you made a rookie mistake there, you slammed on the brakes going into a corner to fast. If you would of leaned in you probably had a good chance of making it through. Made that same mistake 2nd day riding I was out with a bunch of friends and wanted to keep up, slammed on my brakes going into a corner and came within inches of the gravel shoulder. don't listen to these guys calling you a bad rider though, we've all made mistakes riding its just part of the experience. ride safe friend I hope your back out there on the roads having fun!
gravel???? where???? you just failed to commit to the corner .... u hit the break and stood the bike right back up, and it wouldnt lean.. blame it on gravel.. hahaha
ouch! i would never want to see anyone drop the bikes its like hurting a precious friend.... but anyway thanks for entertaining us even if it was a bit painful for ya!
they did make a abs version of this bike, i just didn't have it. i would have wrecked anyway, i was riding like an idiot that day. thanks for watching and commenting
ABS and stability control is for people that can't ride... it's for beginners that might freak out in situations, so that way u don't lock up the brakes, or spin out. And veteran driver will tell u that without ABS is so much better and can actually work better if you know how to drive it. You think those Moto GP race bikes have that crap? NO! they don't and we all wish we could ride half as good as those people. Sometimes wrecks just happen, it's no biggie.. you live and learn...
So good in the car, and fell ((( Very stings ((( What kind of injuries he received? What kind of injuries received a motorcycle? What kind of video camera filmed? Крепил on the surface of the tank?
Well done for posting this and taking crap from the 'experts' with nothing better to do than criticize others... Any off you walk away from is a good one in my opinion!
Didn't read all the comments below but personally I'm not that convinced gravel is the root cause of such a road behavior on a Honda with DCBS (and ABS?). I mean I hit wet carvings, gravel, sand, dust,... all the time and the bike has no issue with that even in corners (OIL is a different story) Could it be you pulled the front brake inside the corner therefor straigthening the bike?
I was looking at buying a VFR. Have to say I dont like the sound. I have a 4 cyl 900. The sound of the engine is deceptive in that you were going fairly hot into that bend but the engine didn't sound that hot. Hope you are fully recovered now and still riding.
You dont like the sound of honda V4. Does not compute ! :D It is generally knows as one of the best sounding modern 4 cylinder engine. I cant think of any in line 4 that sounds just half as good as the V4.
MissMan666 Actually I think my VTEC sounds the worst even with the Yoshimura open exhausts without db-killer. My CB600 with BOSS open exhaust had a more intense howling kind of sound and my Honda SP1 with circuit exhaust made the local Harley cafe go nuts...
And you got back up, and bought a KLR and still riding. Now that says something there... Most people who wreck bikes like that, never pick it up again. Don't let these people and their comments get you down, they just wanna pick on you to filter out their own mistakes. We have all been there, done that!
This crash had nothing to do with gravel. Road position was utterly shocking, no concept of counter steering and not focusing on tne vanishing point. The rider could have swept through those slight corners in top quite easily. Waste of a bike.
Target fixation? Couldn't tell where you were looking. Usually if I'm going to be a little stupid, I'll ride the road one time through at the speed limit to make sure there's no weird shit] like trees branches, oil, gravel, road kill, etc. Glad to see you're ok!
The vfr would be in between the 600 and 650 I believe. I would recommend the 650 or vfr. All would be fun though. More accessories for the vfr available
At 100KM (64 miles) per hour you are traveling at 29 Meters per second.... That means a 3 meter stretch of gravel in your path will be in contact with your tyres for.... Roughly one tenth of a second.... If you ever come across gravel maintain power, look where you want to go and ride it out. Sorry about the VFR bro - they're a magnificent bike and it sucks to lose one like that.
looks like too much speed, not enough lean, or any lean at all. then you musta hit the break or something to compensate. hitting the breaks while turning lifts the bike which causes you to do basically what happened.
As it's easy with a cold rear end on a seat to comment, that corner could have ben taken even faster then the entry speed. The bike is capable of that. On the other hand, the rider was not! Sadly! Sorry for your nasty experience man, sorry for the bike too, a beautiful bike! Go to the track some time, it will teach you a lot about you and your bike, in case you're still riding. I think I would have taken chances with a bit of gravel on the road, then going off road... good thing there was no incoming traffic! Take care mate!
i think that crash was aviodable... eather take the road on the inside, yes it would slide a bit but it would grip back on as you would have alot of road before accualy running off it ... vfrs usualy do grip back, riding it for quite some time now.. second save option was to straighten it up when you saw the gravel and brake, than corner right before you would run out of the road. the lucky think was that noone came toward you on other side. that would make a mess. but yea i feel sorry for ya mate. happens even to the best riders. keep in mind for next situations.. always better to hold on the road as long as possible and turn .. if you slide on pavement its still beter than running off the road. and when it will happen to you you will be surprised how controlable the slide can be on vfr, especcialy if you are not exessing in speeds and you didnt now. good luck
Def avoidable, hard luck. You need to learn about limit points, they were static and told me to slow down but you didn't. There is a brow to the hill and you can't see any road until you are upon it. You need to be able to stop in the distance you can see on your side of the road. Your approach should have been further to the left and a lot slower. Use a slow in fast out approach. Go on a bike safe course and then consider joining your local IAM or better still ROSPA. Will make you a safer rider but faster too. Good luck mate.
I should have taken this road at a slower pace to check for debris first. I did panic a bit when I saw the gravel in the corner. I may have made the corner if I stayed committed and looked though it. bottom line is I was driving like an idiot not knowing the road condition and paid a price for it. May the viffer rest in peace.
Gutted :( - I have a VFR and would be devo'd if I come off it. Although there was gravel on the inside I still think you could of got it round the corner, would of took some lean!
bummer....and for all the cheesedick experts out there with an Opinion.....your time to topple will come even the most talented riders have offs ,it unfortunately happens.....glad you're ok friend
Thanks for the nice comments. I still love riding, haven't stopped I ride year round as long as there is no snow or ice on the ground. I need to post a new video with the new bike.
the guy who "totaled" it must have never seen a sports bike before. any true motorcyclist knows that when you crash a sportbike the ferrings shatter in to a million bits and it looks like the bike is totally FUBAR but then when you actually rip the ferrings off its pretty good unless the frame or forks are totally screwed im no mechanic (can barely do carbs without someone holding my hand and a hole punched in the wall) and i probably could have had that thing running how it should in a few afternoons
a cruiser could of leaned further over than that. you had target fixation i believe. braking while turning will straighten out the bike. And you were going too fast for braking... it would of been safest to let off the throttle and steer to its maximum capabilities or ride the brakes ever so slightly while turning. also your reaction time was not on point. get out and get some practice or take an advanced motorcycle riding course.
I mean, not turning when the road turns is kinda day 1 stuff. I'll bet money the gravel wouldn't have caused you to wreck. At the very least, your odds are pretty high with the gravel, and exactly 0% with panicking and driving wide off the other wide of the road. Also, do that into a car and you will be either very dead or very convicted and sued. Never good to see a crash, but this one was about as easily preventable and incompetent rider-induced as they come. Randall, if you're going to keep riding, read some Keith Code books or something, and get to a track day to figure out what you're doing.
joshduke I wouldn't bet money that gravel won't make you go down. It will. We've all gone into corners a little too hot and that's what it seemed like here. The main thing is the rider is ok and was able to share this video with us.
Oh no doubt at all that gravel can make you crash...I'm just saying that there didn't appear to be much gravel here, and more importantly, he wasn't going that fast. If he'd stayed in the throttle and leaned it over, I'm pretty confident he would have made it easily. Standing it up and panicking, running it wide straight off the outside of the curve, it all-but guaranteed to end the way that it did here. If you screw up and go in too hot (which he didn't here, but that was his perception), let the wreck be because your exhaust dragged the ground and lifted the back tire up (i.e., you legitimately squeezed all the bike had to give, and it wasn't enough), not because you stood it up and had it under complete control...right until you went off the road and wrecked. What I'm saying is that this wasn't caused by gravel, or even going in too hot. This wreck was caused by panic and inexperience. I'm not saying that to deride anyone. I'm just calling it what it is, and that's important. Maybe some people will read this and not make this common inexperienced rider mistake.
Sorry dude, it can happen. I ride in lagos nigeria and I can tell you its one of the harshest places to do it. The same rules apply however....break into riding just like when u start driving ......easy. ride your own ride bro.
i didnt see no gravel at all :) what i did see was a vtec engine above 7000 rpm (nice sound) and a road that goes up- therefor loosing tracktion- and a misleading corner.. pls be careful next time . :)
sorry for the crash... You should remove the comment "GRAVEL" people know you are full of it! I dont see the gravel being an issue since you were on the road and it was off. Gravel that you had pointed out was not even close to where you pointed the bike. Next ride try trusting the bike and lean and make the turn. The bike certainly could have. I have done a million turns like that at 59 mph. Sorry for crash but hope you are not riding anymore.
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Without reading all of the comments below...I dont believe gravel was the cause of this. You entered into a curve at 80MPH without preparing to lean. You hesitated, then hit the brakes. Before you know it, you crossed the street and THEN hit some gravel as your tried to turn. Never brake when you enter a turn....you should have just let off the throttle and rode through it. Lastly....like Beagle Power said...Look where you want to go!
good advice, thank you
Randall Compton insurance? Did u replace?
I read some comments about how & what you should have done.../whatever.
To post this takes some courage. Not forgetting the expected slights to the ego from the world+dog who always know better about everything.
You probably thought about this a million times already so this is really for the benefit of others. All things considered it's actually pretty enlightened to post this.
Thank you and ride safe.
Glad you are ok. Hop back on and learn from your mistakes! Never ever stop looking at where you want to go. Next time you see some gravel, keep cool and adjust your line to avoid it (search youtube for videos about countersteering) or go over the gravel and hope for the best, but keep looking at where you want to go. Panicking braking in a corner is rarely the best solution. Oh, and keep looking at where you want to go :)
Survival Response no.1 and no.2. If you don't know what that is, go and find out. (Superbike school). Although quite a deceptive corner IMHO. Wide open sides and road giving a deception of speed safe, corner tightening over a brow, a small brow but making it blind none the less, and a bit of adverse camber. Easy to do. And we have all done it. I assume you had not ridden that road before. Dangerous because of possible oncoming traffic. It may not feel that way - but you were lucky. Training helps and it is fun. Thanks for posting. Lessons for all of us.
Had all my gear on, just bumps and bruises. Thank you.
Many kind comments here,its nice to see.You bottled it.Plain and simple.That is not a slur on you're riding ability,manhood,penis size or any other childish nonsense.You just fooked the corner up like most of us reading this and was unlucky enough to have caused damage.Kudos for posting this and a lesson to us all.
It's a horrible feeling when you know you're failing to commit to a corner. Thanks for posting.
Just bought a vfr. 2nd Day I started noticing a wining noise in 2nd and 3rd. But after watching this video i hear it seems normal.
great vid
The "whining" noise you can hear is generally other bikers wishing they'd bought a VFR
Thank you for posting this. I'm a new rider and it's so easy to get carried away, especially after watching so many fast skilled riders on TH-cam all winter. This is a good reminder of what can happen in an instant.
thanks for your kind words.
I learned a great tip to get out of "comfort breaking" or even panic braking. Drop a gear (yes even mid corner) and further counter steer if you need too. Helps a lot if you realize your lines are off.
Thanks for the tip, I'll try it.
Dude, I'm so sorry. I have an '06 myself and this was really spooky to watch. Glad your ok.
Thank you.
If we haven't all done already, we probably will, at some stage. Glad you're ok. I did the same thing on my Hayabusa. Just too fast to get round ( got slowed down from 150 mph to 75. Just a moment of "Red Mist" as we call it. Broken shoulder, rib and hand. Wasn't as bad as it sounds lol. Got new plastics for £550 from a drag racing outfit. Cheap fix considering. Funny, it didn't hurt that much at the time..but took the shoulder months. All fine now and a VFR 800 F1 which I take easy on now. Lesson learnt lol.
Hurt me watching the ending. Glad your back up and riding again. Stay safe and Keep the rubber down mate.
Good idea to avoid the bit of gravel on the road which would’ve done nothing but decided to hit the entire road on the shoulder made of gravel
You made a mistake you get up, learn and move on. You should have been less worried about the gravel and more worried about that fence. Don't blame the gravel or your mistake was dodging the gravel and running into something else. STICK THE FUCKING CORNER, FUCK EVERYTHING ELSE.
never look off road when you get scared!!! the bike will follow your eyes remember that
If you fast forward to the 3:26 mark and drop it to .25 speed....look above the brake master cylinder and look at the road. You can see the Gravel he was trying to avoid.
While I agree with other that it's not the main cause of the crash I can see the gravel on the road in the vid. It's there.
Hey bro, glad your ok! Bikes are replaceable lives are not!
Hello mate, may I feature it in my next moto video? Credited of course
Absolutely, would be a good “what not to do” video.
@@grysnlvfr Thanks a lot!
Yes, I'm riding the KLR now that the VFR is totaled. One of these days I'll get a tour bike to go along with the Klr. Thanks for the sub.
Glad you ok, I'm your defence it's hard to judge a bend you can't see on a small crest! Happy biking!!
congrats on the new bike, one of the best bikes ever!
If you'd have hit gravel, your right cheek would have hit the Asphalt long before you left the road (like hitting diesel). You saw the gravel... panicked and changed your control inputs, thus standing the bike up and causing target fixation and you to plough on and into the ditch. Lesson learned.. nothing to be ashamed of we've all been there.. pick yourself up, dust yourself off and move on. If you can find another 800 (non V-Tec) great!! if not get a 750... you won't be disappointed. Happy motoring and thanks for sharing!
Thanks, you are right.
You nailed it-the "gravel" was only peripherally responsible for this wreck. This was rider-error, and totally avoidable. A dab of brake, counter steer and lean, and we'd have been on our merry way. Thank the god of your choice that there was no opposing traffic at the wrong time......
I suffered an exact same accident some years ago for being over the safe speed limit, it was a very twisty road with sharp corners, it was my first time there and was crusing at 80km/h when safe speed was less than 60km/h. Being on a HD FXST of course you don't have the fastest reaction time, it didn't brake fast enough (was downhill), I missed the corner, comitted target fixation on the other side of the road and ended and hit a sand wall slow enough to not hurt me. Ape hanger was bent. At least the rider here was not totaled.
very glad to hear your ok
"LQQK where you want to go" Glad you're ok
That is excellent advice.
Oh SHIT!
Thanks for sharing... hope you're OK and still riding.
We have all done it. I spooned my old R1 into the side of a JCB 8 years ago and count myself very lucky to have walked away from that. We have all opened up the throttle on an unfamiliar road and anyone on here that says they haven't is a liar Anyone on here being insulting will more than likely come a cropper too because we are human which means we cant see the future and we all panic to some degree. Keep riding just do it like I do and try to keep it shiny side up as best as possible. Cheers.
Thank you
Find your nearest track and get as much training as possible! Not only is it a blast and you'll meet great people but it will drastically improve your riding in general, even on the street.
Oh yeah never use your rear brake unless you're freakin racing.
i think the crest of the slight hill prevented the comitment to the hard turn knowing the result would have probably been a tank slapper ending in a high side, its bad luck, but everytime you speed on a bike you know this could happen, thats why they have track days so you can get your balls content at the track, where it's safer... i hate to see this dude that bike sounded so good, it's a shame you went down, i hope everything turned out ok...
Hey Randall, would it be alright if I featured this video in my next moto compilation? Your channel will be credited of course. Thanks, MP.
as Michael Jackson said in his song.."dont blame it on the gravel........blame it on the boogie"..
It hurts to wreck for sure. I just got bumps and bruises, had all my gear on and didn't hit anything solid. The bike unfortunately was totaled. I wish I had the camera on my helmet but i was wearing my winter helmet so i had the camera on the tank with a suction cup mount. the camera still works but the glass display broke so it's stuck on 1080 at 30fps. thanks for the nice comments and i enjoy your vids
being a fairly novice rider myself(about 8 months and 1500 miles under my belt) looks like you made a rookie mistake there, you slammed on the brakes going into a corner to fast. If you would of leaned in you probably had a good chance of making it through. Made that same mistake 2nd day riding I was out with a bunch of friends and wanted to keep up, slammed on my brakes going into a corner and came within inches of the gravel shoulder. don't listen to these guys calling you a bad rider though, we've all made mistakes riding its just part of the experience. ride safe friend I hope your back out there on the roads having fun!
gravel???? where???? you just failed to commit to the corner .... u hit the break and stood the bike right back up, and it wouldnt lean.. blame it on gravel.. hahaha
Uh...thanks for comment
ouch! i would never want to see anyone drop the bikes its like hurting a precious friend.... but anyway thanks for entertaining us even if it was a bit painful for ya!
This is why racing schools are so Beneficial, highly recommended...
I agree, I need to do one.
Well said brother! Thank you.
You speak the truth brother. Thanks for watching.
Damn. When you go around a patch of gravel, you really go around it! Hell of a way to justify a new bike.
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These are fantastic bikes but really deserve ABS and stability control. I pretty much did the same thing on my GS500F first week of riding.
they did make a abs version of this bike, i just didn't have it. i would have wrecked anyway, i was riding like an idiot that day. thanks for watching and commenting
I did the same thing on my ninja 500, 200 miles after I got it.
ABS and stability control is for people that can't ride... it's for beginners that might freak out in situations, so that way u don't lock up the brakes, or spin out. And veteran driver will tell u that without ABS is so much better and can actually work better if you know how to drive it. You think those Moto GP race bikes have that crap? NO! they don't and we all wish we could ride half as good as those people. Sometimes wrecks just happen, it's no biggie.. you live and learn...
locomojo0485 you speak the truth!
Heathicus Maximus sorry to hear that, hope you and the bike are ok and you are still riding
I am so happy you missed that gate there! Awesome you had the GoPro on during that. Were you okay, any injuries?
Oh yeah, got a new bike already. I'll post some new video soon. Thanks for nice comment.
Wow, sorry bro. You seem like you had it under control! I'm glad your fine, I hope you continue to ride
So good in the car, and fell ((( Very stings ((( What kind of injuries he received? What kind of injuries received a motorcycle? What kind of video camera filmed? Крепил on the surface of the tank?
It was a drift ghost hd, good camera.
What's the thingy with the red flashing lights strapped to the clutch reservoir?
Well done for posting this and taking crap from the 'experts' with nothing better to do than criticize others... Any off you walk away from is a good one in my opinion!
I agree, thanks for the nice comment
true bro!
Didn't read all the comments below but personally I'm not that convinced gravel is the root cause of such a road behavior on a Honda with DCBS (and ABS?). I mean I hit wet carvings, gravel, sand, dust,... all the time and the bike has no issue with that even in corners (OIL is a different story)
Could it be you pulled the front brake inside the corner therefor straigthening the bike?
Thank you for your kind sounding words
I was looking at buying a VFR. Have to say I dont like the sound. I have a 4 cyl 900. The sound of the engine is deceptive in that you were going fairly hot into that bend but the engine didn't sound that hot.
Hope you are fully recovered now and still riding.
It is a unique sounding machine. I loved it.
You dont like the sound of honda V4. Does not compute ! :D It is generally knows as one of the best sounding modern
4 cylinder engine. I cant think of any in line 4 that sounds just half as good as the V4.
MissMan666 I agree. One of the best ever!
MissMan666
Actually I think my VTEC sounds the worst even with the Yoshimura open exhausts without db-killer.
My CB600 with BOSS open exhaust had a more intense howling kind of sound
and my Honda SP1 with circuit exhaust made the local Harley cafe go nuts...
The turn has oposite incline..... Happy that you r ok....
I did a similar thing once and rode through a hedge! Hope you are okay.
I'm doing great, thanks for asking. Hope your ok too.
Good advice. Thanks
And you got back up, and bought a KLR and still riding. Now that says something there... Most people who wreck bikes like that, never pick it up again. Don't let these people and their comments get you down, they just wanna pick on you to filter out their own mistakes. We have all been there, done that!
Thanks for the nice comments
Ouch!! Hope you are OK man? I think I would have taken my chances with the gravel on the road rather than that gate.
that would have been the smart thing to do for sure!
This crash had nothing to do with gravel. Road position was utterly shocking, no concept of counter steering and not focusing on tne vanishing point. The rider could have swept through those slight corners in top quite easily. Waste of a bike.
How sad that a fairly slow dump on soft ground can total such a lovely bike.
Do you think if you slid off on the gravel the bike mighta survived?
I wonder that pretty often myself, if I would have stayed committed to the turn and road it out if I would have wrecked at all.
Shouldn't 'what if ' too much.... it's good it's just the bike that's dead.
True dat!!!
Target fixation? Couldn't tell where you were looking. Usually if I'm going to be a little stupid, I'll ride the road one time through at the speed limit to make sure there's no weird shit] like trees branches, oil, gravel, road kill, etc. Glad to see you're ok!
Yes, definitely should have done a pass at slow speed first. Thats some good advise.
Good thing he replaced it with a KLR isn't it? You can drop a KLR at that speed without totalling it for sure.
Gravel, or coming into the corner a tad too hot?
Mostly too hot.
Im 6"1 400 would the 800 be a better fit the a cbr 600 or a 650
The vfr would be in between the 600 and 650 I believe. I would recommend the 650 or vfr. All would be fun though. More accessories for the vfr available
If youre really 6'1" 400, I dint think youll fit on anything that isnt a reclined seating position.
At 100KM (64 miles) per hour you are traveling at 29 Meters per second.... That means a 3 meter stretch of gravel in your path will be in contact with your tyres for.... Roughly one tenth of a second.... If you ever come across gravel maintain power, look where you want to go and ride it out. Sorry about the VFR bro - they're a magnificent bike and it sucks to lose one like that.
Thanks for the kind words.
looks like too much speed, not enough lean, or any lean at all. then you musta hit the break or something to compensate. hitting the breaks while turning lifts the bike which causes you to do basically what happened.
Thank you
What kind of mount did you have on the drift?
I was using the suction cup mount on the tank, it worked pretty good. I was using the drift ghost hd
thanks for the reply...you replace the vfr with another?
scoleman73 I replaced it with a KLR 650, I would like to buy a kawasaki ninja 1000 with hard bags next.
As it's easy with a cold rear end on a seat to comment, that corner could have ben taken even faster then the entry speed. The bike is capable of that. On the other hand, the rider was not! Sadly! Sorry for your nasty experience man, sorry for the bike too, a beautiful bike! Go to the track some time, it will teach you a lot about you and your bike, in case you're still riding. I think I would have taken chances with a bit of gravel on the road, then going off road... good thing there was no incoming traffic! Take care mate!
amen
i think that crash was aviodable... eather take the road on the inside, yes it would slide a bit but it would grip back on as you would have alot of road before accualy running off it ... vfrs usualy do grip back, riding it for quite some time now.. second save option was to straighten it up when you saw the gravel and brake, than corner right before you would run out of the road. the lucky think was that noone came toward you on other side. that would make a mess. but yea i feel sorry for ya mate. happens even to the best riders. keep in mind for next situations.. always better to hold on the road as long as possible and turn .. if you slide on pavement its still beter than running off the road. and when it will happen to you you will be surprised how controlable the slide can be on vfr, especcialy if you are not exessing in speeds and you didnt now. good luck
Yup, I should have went with option 1.
Def avoidable, hard luck. You need to learn about limit points, they were static and told me to slow down but you didn't. There is a brow to the hill and you can't see any road until you are upon it. You need to be able to stop in the distance you can see on your side of the road. Your approach should have been further to the left and a lot slower. Use a slow in fast out approach. Go on a bike safe course and then consider joining your local IAM or better still ROSPA. Will make you a safer rider but faster too. Good luck mate.
Good advise thanks
I should have taken this road at a slower pace to check for debris first. I did panic a bit when I saw the gravel in the corner. I may have made the corner if I stayed committed and looked though it. bottom line is I was driving like an idiot not knowing the road condition and paid a price for it. May the viffer rest in peace.
And a car in the opposing lane = dead as well!
Gutted :( - I have a VFR and would be devo'd if I come off it. Although there was gravel on the inside I still think you could of got it round the corner, would of took some lean!
Yep, I wish I would have stayed with it through the corner.
bummer....and for all the cheesedick experts out there with an Opinion.....your time to topple will come even the most talented riders have offs ,it unfortunately happens.....glad you're ok friend
Thanks for the nice comments. I still love riding, haven't stopped I ride year round as long as there is no snow or ice on the ground. I need to post a new video with the new bike.
doesnt look totaled to me, it was going 31 when it actually went over, looks like maybe a bent handle bar, shattered ferring, and a broken mirror
yes, your probably right. Insurance made the call, should have bought it from insurance after they totaled it. VFRs are great bikes
the guy who "totaled" it must have never seen a sports bike before. any true motorcyclist knows that when you crash a sportbike the ferrings shatter in to a million bits and it looks like the bike is totally FUBAR but then when you actually rip the ferrings off its pretty good unless the frame or forks are totally screwed im no mechanic (can barely do carbs without someone holding my hand and a hole punched in the wall)
and i probably could have had that thing running how it should in a few afternoons
+Randall Compton wow, you didnt even buy your bike back? you should drive a car instead ha
Shouldn't be totalled, just scuffed in!
I like that. Definitely scuffed in. :)
a cruiser could of leaned further over than that. you had target fixation i believe. braking while turning will straighten out the bike. And you were going too fast for braking... it would of been safest to let off the throttle and steer to its maximum capabilities or ride the brakes ever so slightly while turning. also your reaction time was not on point. get out and get some practice or take an advanced motorcycle riding course.
Even the best in the world crash and youtube keyboarders will point out all the mistakes that were made...
true dat!
I mean, not turning when the road turns is kinda day 1 stuff. I'll bet money the gravel wouldn't have caused you to wreck. At the very least, your odds are pretty high with the gravel, and exactly 0% with panicking and driving wide off the other wide of the road. Also, do that into a car and you will be either very dead or very convicted and sued.
Never good to see a crash, but this one was about as easily preventable and incompetent rider-induced as they come.
Randall, if you're going to keep riding, read some Keith Code books or something, and get to a track day to figure out what you're doing.
joshduke I wouldn't bet money that gravel won't make you go down. It will. We've all gone into corners a little too hot and that's what it seemed like here. The main thing is the rider is ok and was able to share this video with us.
Oh no doubt at all that gravel can make you crash...I'm just saying that there didn't appear to be much gravel here, and more importantly, he wasn't going that fast. If he'd stayed in the throttle and leaned it over, I'm pretty confident he would have made it easily. Standing it up and panicking, running it wide straight off the outside of the curve, it all-but guaranteed to end the way that it did here. If you screw up and go in too hot (which he didn't here, but that was his perception), let the wreck be because your exhaust dragged the ground and lifted the back tire up (i.e., you legitimately squeezed all the bike had to give, and it wasn't enough), not because you stood it up and had it under complete control...right until you went off the road and wrecked.
What I'm saying is that this wasn't caused by gravel, or even going in too hot. This wreck was caused by panic and inexperience. I'm not saying that to deride anyone. I'm just calling it what it is, and that's important. Maybe some people will read this and not make this common inexperienced rider mistake.
Your probably right.
Gravel LOL you hesitated and then went down.
Sorry dude, it can happen. I ride in lagos nigeria and I can tell you its one of the harshest places to do it. The same rules apply however....break into riding just like when u start driving ......easy. ride your own ride bro.
I agree, thanks
I only like the video because you're ok! Stop going so fast! You scare me!
glad you are ok
Thank you
i didnt see no gravel at all :) what i did see was a vtec engine above 7000 rpm (nice sound) and a road that goes up- therefor loosing tracktion- and a misleading corner..
pls be careful next time . :)
Those VFR's do sound sweet
lolol lol there was no traction loss you just don't know how to counter steer to lean the bike.. squidish
i seen your reflection you should have been looking through the corner for sure! gravel my ass lol atleast your ok lesson learned
"Gravel"
Shame to see, but based on the comments it seems your ok. VFRs are a gift from God and can be returned. He will provide new ones.
Amen brother!
A great video in how not to ride
I'm glad your ok, but I'd stick to a car mate
Thanks for watching.
It isn't nice coming off, but it's only a bike.
As long as you aren't hurt the sun is still shining Bruv
Loonboy123 thats right, still riding and lovin it!
I very nearly went for a vfr800, I ended up with a gsxr600 after I stumbled across one that was too nice to walk away from
Great bike the vfr though
sorry for the crash... You should remove the comment "GRAVEL" people know you are full of it! I dont see the gravel being an issue since you were on the road and it was off. Gravel that you had pointed out was not even close to where you pointed the bike. Next ride try trusting the bike and lean and make the turn. The bike certainly could have. I have done a million turns like that at 59 mph. Sorry for crash but hope you are not riding anymore.
sorry brutha, I'm still riding. love riding, can't stop! thanks for the encouragement! !!
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next time I see gravel... I'm going to shoot over the yellow line and lay it down on the other side of the road... (sorry I couldn't resist)
Oh man that shit sucks sorry bout your bike bro I just bought a vfr800fi
Sacrilege!!!!! (and it appears you didn't know the road!)
...yes! ;)
Target fixation
n1tmtu37 yes indeed
dat vtec tho
sweet music for sure
yeeeees
GoPro remote
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uh....gravel huh!?.....lol (pay attention another youTube dousche!!!
Wow. I hate seeing these videos. Bikes are replaceable.