I'd have thought that the idea behind the laser "musket" was that it never ran out of ammunition because you charged it the way you charge the flashlight from Amnesia: The Bunker and Metro, so it wouldn't need power cells.
the Zap gun has made the raiders in my game more formidable, the zap gun will replace enemies with pipe guns, and it deals far more damage than pipe weapons
@Gyrfalcon312raiders are borderline retarded junkies who aren't functional enough to perform comparatively basic tasks. It's not plausible that they would even know to use an energy weapon effectively, let alone manufacture and maintain them. The weapon is far more fitting for the Minutemen.
My headcanon is that whatever is producing the laser may need to be connected to a motor some kind and that the motors operation is what shakes the gun.
@Ghost_Kevlar hes wrong in fallout 4 the laser weapons have a red gas that comes out the barrel when fired meaning it is gas cooled which would absolutely provide kickback when the gas is expelled from the front of the gun
@@astolbro7183 but that's just design flaw on Bethesdas part, since laser is basically just ultra hot light beam that has barely recoil. Star Wars did it better. I read somewhere it has 630k times less recoil than an M16 shooting 5.56
I've tried several of these. I think my favourite was the unique variant of the Zap Gun, though it's extremely OP since you can stun lock any enemy when you send them flying. Still, lots of fun.
That was a main reason I disregarded the Zap Gun. Not only imbalanced, but making combat a joke - which gets old fast. Tinkerer's Raygun is a good lore-friendly makeshift alternative with a pretty cool unique though.
My only issue with the zap gun is how common it is. It becomes 50% of weapon spawns and is often more powerful than other weapons of a similar tier. If I knew how or there was a patch to remove it from some leveled list or tone down it's spawn rate I would
I'd expect any weapon that has animated recoil to also kick the screen upwards when firing. And laser weapons have always had recoil in Fallout, so it's not an unreasonable expectation.
@@PancuroniumB Actually, no, Fallout 4 is the first Fallout game that implemented recoil as a feature, none of the weapons in 3 and NV have recoil, the bullet spread is supposed to be a representation of the weapon kicking your aim point around, and laser weapons have spread values so low as to be negligible, which at that point it can be justified as diffusion or weight unbalance making them hard to hold steady. Hell, if you shoot a movable object with a laser weapon in 4 it doesn't move it, so whoever programmed them was aware that they shouldn't have any mass, but it was added in as a either for balance, or because people expect a gun to have recoil.
Hello. I find your videos very soothing and relaxing, plus you go into greater detail than I would expect. A note on the AER-15 and AnotherOne's Laser RCW, and it's recoil (or lack thereof): While lasers do have recoil, it's so small you wouldn't feel it. Flashlights have "recoil" too, but you don't notice it, do you? For a reviewer who openly gives his honest opinion, I would have expected a little bit of research. I still like the rest of your video, plus your criticisms of each mod which was reviewed.
BTW the x12 has not just an underbarel grenade launcher. Depending on the type of barrel it can be a plasma rocked launcher, with and without targeting variant and also a shotgun style cluster grenade launcher.
Would love to see some Fallout: New Vegas or Skyrim content, mod battles or otherwise. Also, is there any other games you plan on making content on or will you be sticking to Bethesda titles? I'd love to see you review a game in-depth with the kind of scrutiny you review mods with.
I definitely will make Skyrim content at some point. As for non-Bethesda games, I might make some videos about Mount and Blade Warband/Bannerlord, Arma 3, Project Zomboid, or GTA 5 (once I find enough space to reinstall that massive game). I have plenty of ideas, but not enough time or adequate computer hardware.
The Wattz and Zap Gun are both permanent parts of my load order. My only complaint about the Zap is that if you reskin your fusion cores they don't show the changed skin on the gun.
Fun Fact, the LaserRCW in Anotherone's mod is from the MonkeyDepot Thompson Submachinegun mod. Which is a generally fantastic mod that not many people have tried, kept out of my load order because holy shit it adds so fucking much custom .45 ammo types to the loot tables its not even funny. Just constantly piling hundreds of rounds of ammo on almost every loot source.
The people who say laser weapons shouldn't have recoil are really getting to the modders huh! Obviously the laser weapons would actually have regular, downward recoil, as the machinery would push it down slightly, but the best advantage of laser recoil would be that it is completely vertical, and there would be zero horizontal recoil.
I've been playing FO4 since 2016 and currently have 464 mods in my load order. I dislike munitions because it adds yet another layer of tediousness on to the game. So yes, there are those of us that dislike Munitions in 2023.
Imagine using munitions. What's the point of adding a bunch of new ammunition types when, most of the time, you'll won't have more than 1 weapon installed to use it? It's a minor improvement for the headaches you might have to deal with.
7:02 laser weapons SHOULDNT have any recoil imo, its just shooting beams of light so there's nothing that would cause recoil in the gun. regular guns have recoil because there's an explosion inside of the weapon and a bunch of high pressure gass being released, laser weapons don't have that, so they're basically just concentrated high powered flashlights
Nah a real laser weapon would have some recoil, minimal but definitely some. Recoil is caused by Newton's third law, conservation of momentum, to eject anything would cause some recoil. Photons have relativistic mass aka effective mass, despite being matterless.
I think the Brotherhood can use AEP-7 pistols, but don't quote me on that. I know that the Zap Gun's LL integration makes it a very common weapon for raiders and super mutants, but I can't recall if the Brotherhood use it too.
Dude, you can recognize me by the spam of likes Im giving you You literally saved years of my time testing mods on console Maybe a bit less but that's just fine, I can't be more happy and thankful, least I can do is letting you know Also you got really good insights on game mechanics/development which have help me in turn when thinking about modding As we say in spanish when we really want to express our gratitude: te como la polla Best
This is an old video, I recognize that. Also, no mean to hate, but to anybody looking at the Winchester P94, I have to warn everybody. I have to whole-heartedly agree with the opinion that you expressed in the video. As a deeper explanation of the odd balancing and level list issues, from my personal experience over the past few days, every third BoS member carries the P94 MKII starting at around level 25; all of whom which are able to kill you in a shot or two if wearing medium combat armor. The model is nice but the sounds and polishing are abhorrent. I have to advise you to look elsewhere if you'd like a plasma caster mod.
There are patches to rebalance the dps, fix broken attachments, make the ammo plasma, and all. Not sure about the third person power armor or railway rifle sound issues though.
I like very much this kind of video and your work, but PLEASE let us hear the sound and reload of every variant available in the weapon mod you show... Or at least one shot. Because this is the only big flaw of this video. Thanks 🙏
It’s only 77mb and the weapon fits right into the game, if anything the institute laser gun stands out way more and looks out of place yet it’s somehow in the base game
I don't disagree with your criticisms of these mods, but you could be less blunt. Mods are made by hobbyists and enthusiasts for free. Being overly harsh would be like walking into an art class for kids, picking up their work, and then telling them that it's garbage and others should avoid looking at it.
I do not like the modern style laser rifle not only does it not look like it should be in fallout it has nonsensical parts on it that make you wonder why is there a magazine that looks like that on a laser rifle?
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I'd have thought that the idea behind the laser "musket" was that it never ran out of ammunition because you charged it the way you charge the flashlight from Amnesia: The Bunker and Metro, so it wouldn't need power cells.
Was supposed to be, with the option to use overcharge full charged rounds…
the Zap gun has made the raiders in my game more formidable, the zap gun will replace enemies with pipe guns, and it deals far more damage than pipe weapons
@Gyrfalcon312depend on which one is easier to make and replace
with it do it to supermutants
@Gyrfalcon312raiders are borderline retarded junkies who aren't functional enough to perform comparatively basic tasks. It's not plausible that they would even know to use an energy weapon effectively, let alone manufacture and maintain them. The weapon is far more fitting for the Minutemen.
Oh I didn't know it added them to raiders, I'll keep that in mind for my next playthrough
1:41 "I love the bounciness of the animations..."
That's pretty ironic, considering it's a laser weapon.
My headcanon is that whatever is producing the laser may need to be connected to a motor some kind and that the motors operation is what shakes the gun.
@@inwit594exactly what k thjnk
IRL laser weapons should really have absolutely no recoil since the mass of photons sent downrange is negligible.
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@@Katefisch he's right though. Using an emoji like a child won't change facts.
Which actually makes you aer-15 the most realistic laser weapon
@Ghost_Kevlar hes wrong in fallout 4 the laser weapons have a red gas that comes out the barrel when fired meaning it is gas cooled which would absolutely provide kickback when the gas is expelled from the front of the gun
@@astolbro7183 but that's just design flaw on Bethesdas part, since laser is basically just ultra hot light beam that has barely recoil. Star Wars did it better.
I read somewhere it has 630k times less recoil than an M16 shooting 5.56
I've tried several of these. I think my favourite was the unique variant of the Zap Gun, though it's extremely OP since you can stun lock any enemy when you send them flying. Still, lots of fun.
That was a main reason I disregarded the Zap Gun. Not only imbalanced, but making combat a joke - which gets old fast. Tinkerer's Raygun is a good lore-friendly makeshift alternative with a pretty cool unique though.
My only issue with the zap gun is how common it is. It becomes 50% of weapon spawns and is often more powerful than other weapons of a similar tier.
If I knew how or there was a patch to remove it from some leveled list or tone down it's spawn rate I would
Try FO4Edit, you can tweak the gun balance yourself and it's very easy to use
The Charger Pistol and Rhinemetal energy weapon along with Watzz 2000 and Zap gun are the best energy weapon mods that I've seen to date.
I really don't understand why you'd expect a laser weapon to have recoil.
I'd expect any weapon that has animated recoil to also kick the screen upwards when firing. And laser weapons have always had recoil in Fallout, so it's not an unreasonable expectation.
@@PancuroniumB
Actually, no, Fallout 4 is the first Fallout game that implemented recoil as a feature, none of the weapons in 3 and NV have recoil, the bullet spread is supposed to be a representation of the weapon kicking your aim point around, and laser weapons have spread values so low as to be negligible, which at that point it can be justified as diffusion or weight unbalance making them hard to hold steady.
Hell, if you shoot a movable object with a laser weapon in 4 it doesn't move it, so whoever programmed them was aware that they shouldn't have any mass, but it was added in as a either for balance, or because people expect a gun to have recoil.
The quality of energy weapons is much higher on the nexus.
Hello. I find your videos very soothing and relaxing, plus you go into greater detail than I would expect. A note on the AER-15 and AnotherOne's Laser RCW, and it's recoil (or lack thereof): While lasers do have recoil, it's so small you wouldn't feel it. Flashlights have "recoil" too, but you don't notice it, do you? For a reviewer who openly gives his honest opinion, I would have expected a little bit of research. I still like the rest of your video, plus your criticisms of each mod which was reviewed.
Facts with no bs filler 💪
BTW the x12 has not just an underbarel grenade launcher. Depending on the type of barrel it can be a plasma rocked launcher, with and without targeting variant and also a shotgun style cluster grenade launcher.
Seems crazy in 2024 theres still no Wattz Laser Pistol from the 1st and 2nd fallout
Or h&k L30 gatling laser. AKA a gatling laser that doesnt look like shit
How would you make it unique though? I don't get the point of adding laser guns from old fallout since they will simply be reskins of existing ones
@@tefnutofhoney2832AKA a Gatling Laser that doesn't look like shit? Dude, you are blinded by nostalgia, those ugly nerf gun barrels are horrible.
@@HeideGuy looks better than the nothingburger that is the 3 design. Its not even "gatling."
And the 4 design doesnt even look like a weapon.
Would love to see some Fallout: New Vegas or Skyrim content, mod battles or otherwise. Also, is there any other games you plan on making content on or will you be sticking to Bethesda titles? I'd love to see you review a game in-depth with the kind of scrutiny you review mods with.
I definitely will make Skyrim content at some point. As for non-Bethesda games, I might make some videos about Mount and Blade Warband/Bannerlord, Arma 3, Project Zomboid, or GTA 5 (once I find enough space to reinstall that massive game). I have plenty of ideas, but not enough time or adequate computer hardware.
Wattz is the best weapon mode I ever used.
You should try glock 86, interesting and funny weapon
The Wattz and Zap Gun are both permanent parts of my load order.
My only complaint about the Zap is that if you reskin your fusion cores they don't show the changed skin on the gun.
Just a suggestion for the future. If you are going to rank these in a list, then put them in said rank order in the video.
Well this has got me energized My recommended mod choice= Zap Gun however I use the charger pistol and the uranium rifle
Wdym the plasma caster is too blocky? Have you even played New Vegas?
You forgot the Alien blast rifle by wardaddy, Anotherone's YK42B pulse rifle, Neeher's Photon disrupter and the AKeVolt by warfighter.
Fun Fact, the LaserRCW in Anotherone's mod is from the MonkeyDepot Thompson Submachinegun mod. Which is a generally fantastic mod that not many people have tried, kept out of my load order because holy shit it adds so fucking much custom .45 ammo types to the loot tables its not even funny. Just constantly piling hundreds of rounds of ammo on almost every loot source.
Never give full auto version of AER-15 to enemies, unless you like being blinded.
The people who say laser weapons shouldn't have recoil are really getting to the modders huh! Obviously the laser weapons would actually have regular, downward recoil, as the machinery would push it down slightly, but the best advantage of laser recoil would be that it is completely vertical, and there would be zero horizontal recoil.
Why would shooting light even have recoil
About the X12 plasma caster double footstep glitch in power armor, anyone know if there is a patch for that on XB1?
Hey Pancuronium ! can you make a video compiling mods for Bullet gravity/tracer ? thanks king
Incredible idea! I might do that just next week.
do you know what the AER15 ID is with all attachments
Use the ESP Explorer mod to spawn it in and you won't need the FormID, which has a different index depending on your load order anyways.
What mod thst puts weapons on your back when you put them away i never seen an active one like that
Classic Holstered Weapons
@@PancuroniumB this available for xbox
@@HunterDarkWolf Nope, it requires F4SE.
Imagine disliking Munitions in 2023
I've been playing FO4 since 2016 and currently have 464 mods in my load order. I dislike munitions because it adds yet another layer of tediousness on to the game. So yes, there are those of us that dislike Munitions in 2023.
Imagine liking it
It crashes my game
Comparability 😢😢
Imagine using munitions. What's the point of adding a bunch of new ammunition types when, most of the time, you'll won't have more than 1 weapon installed to use it? It's a minor improvement for the headaches you might have to deal with.
this is a synth talking... super useful though :))
7:02 laser weapons SHOULDNT have any recoil imo, its just shooting beams of light so there's nothing that would cause recoil in the gun. regular guns have recoil because there's an explosion inside of the weapon and a bunch of high pressure gass being released, laser weapons don't have that, so they're basically just concentrated high powered flashlights
Nah a real laser weapon would have some recoil, minimal but definitely some.
Recoil is caused by Newton's third law, conservation of momentum, to eject anything would cause some recoil. Photons have relativistic mass aka effective mass, despite being matterless.
Now I have a variety of laser weapons for my bos character and there 2 teammates
No X12 and no EG-7
Are Any of these put in the bos leveled list? Cuz I don’t want to be the only member of the bos using one of the weapons in this video
I think the Brotherhood can use AEP-7 pistols, but don't quote me on that. I know that the Zap Gun's LL integration makes it a very common weapon for raiders and super mutants, but I can't recall if the Brotherhood use it too.
How do you know I am from planet earth?
Where in the scrap palace
I don't remember, it's been months, sorry.
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Dude, you can recognize me by the spam of likes Im giving you
You literally saved years of my time testing mods on console
Maybe a bit less but that's just fine, I can't be more happy and thankful, least I can do is letting you know
Also you got really good insights on game mechanics/development which have help me in turn when thinking about modding
As we say in spanish when we really want to express our gratitude: te como la polla
Best
This is an old video, I recognize that. Also, no mean to hate, but to anybody looking at the Winchester P94, I have to warn everybody. I have to whole-heartedly agree with the opinion that you expressed in the video. As a deeper explanation of the odd balancing and level list issues, from my personal experience over the past few days, every third BoS member carries the P94 MKII starting at around level 25; all of whom which are able to kill you in a shot or two if wearing medium combat armor. The model is nice but the sounds and polishing are abhorrent. I have to advise you to look elsewhere if you'd like a plasma caster mod.
There are patches to rebalance the dps, fix broken attachments, make the ammo plasma, and all.
Not sure about the third person power armor or railway rifle sound issues though.
I like very much this kind of video and your work, but PLEASE let us hear the sound and reload of every variant available in the weapon mod you show... Or at least one shot.
Because this is the only big flaw of this video.
Thanks 🙏
I really want a proper wattz 2000 mod. The deadpool2099 version is too high quality for my tastes.
The first time I hear someone asking for a lower quality mod haha.
What does that even mean brother?
@@caiooca5793 I'm an Xbox player,so file size is a factor in the mod,not to mention that I don't like mods that stand out.
It’s only 77mb and the weapon fits right into the game, if anything the institute laser gun stands out way more and looks out of place yet it’s somehow in the base game
I don't disagree with your criticisms of these mods, but you could be less blunt. Mods are made by hobbyists and enthusiasts for free. Being overly harsh would be like walking into an art class for kids, picking up their work, and then telling them that it's garbage and others should avoid looking at it.
I do not like the modern style laser rifle not only does it not look like it should be in fallout it has nonsensical parts on it that make you wonder why is there a magazine that looks like that on a laser rifle?