What's up guys! Just wanted to let you know that this is no TOP 5, these are plugins that are/were very popular in the scene and also that I use ALL the time. Let me know if there's some classics I forgot. I'm always curious to try new ones :) Btw if you want to use the presets I used for this video you can find em here: Synths: www.tonepusher.com/product-page/electronic-body-music Drums: www.tonepusher.com/product-page/90-s-industrial-drum-kits
Could I ask for more plucks and sequences for your preset packs? Bells are a bad substitute for plucks and Bass is too beefy sometimes to perform a pluck sound. I'm only a composer/producer and would rather not waste time in sound design when there's too many tracks I still need to build.
haha yeah well, I'm making what people want to watch. I tried many things and that's what got the best numbers. And also happen to be something I know pretty fucking well haha
@@Mr2it3881 I love this music cuz it has all the elements I love about metal. Banging drums but with rhythm, catchy bass lines that also sound unique and USUALLY cool vocals and nothing sounds natural which I why I love old school death metal or slam core.
@@Tonepusher Please don’t stop. These vids are all bangers. For us newbies who make this music, things that would also do well is explaining how side chain compressors can work on other elements. I’ll take a recorded sound and stretch it out until I hear digital sounds similar to a bit crusher, drop the sound an octave and make it duck against the kick. I love experimenting and that’s where writing metal ended for me.
@@Tonepusher it’s a niche topic that not many music production channels go into. So thank you for doing that, I personally found a lot of useful and inspiring information here.
Ahhhh I know that feeling... I had a SansAmp GT2 (old and new versions, PL-1 FlyRig, PSA-1, PSA-1.1, PSA-2 Rocktron Piranha, JMP-1 and a Mesa Triaxis at one point! ALL the DI preamps! Only got the GT2, PSA-1 and PL-1 these days... they seem to be what I get my best tones from. Back when I was massively into Rammstein's keyboards I had 3 Ensoniq ASR-10 keyboards and an ASR-10 rack unit! Still got the rack, and I'll be keeping that till the day I die, along with my Access Virus C. Sold the Virus to my best mate/bandmate, and sadly got it back by way of inheriting it when he died a few years back. Seriously precious bits of kit!
Serum ftw!! haha I used Nexus wayyy back when it came out. It really was a popular synth at the time. Didn't try the new version yet. I think there's much more depth to it.
@@Tonepusher Nexus 4 is pretty limited to EDM styles, but they do have an awesome Cyberwave style pack that could work for some Industrial with minimal fidgeting. Serum though, Tonepusher has everything you need to make pretty much any genre you want, and even combine genres into a twisted, schizophrenic version of two unrelated genres. I love the Tonepusher presets, and have phased out pretty much all my other plugins because of them. It's all you really need and can't wait to see what you guys have for us in the future, because I just can't get enough and want them all! PS, I was not paid to write any of that.
@@Tonepusher Nexus was amazing, especially for the euro sounds. The in-built arp also was very easy to set up. The new one must be good as well, but it's on quite the pricier side considering all the expansions
@@Middlestepofficial yeah It's probably a good plugin. But ngl, 95% of the time I design my own sounds so I'm not super hyped about plugins like that. Having this said I remember using some arp stuff back then. Also sampled some of the snares I think. I always found it funny that there was like presets that were basically a full beat lol
If anyone else like me thinks almost anything can sound better with some overdrive/distortion texturing on it, ‘Camel Crusher’ is a free download, takes up limited CPU so it can be used all over the place, and is pretty dang excellent 🤘
Some great stuff there and the sound of the Ohmicide hardware module is fantastic... I still haven't jumped into euroracks yet... seems daunting to me lol
@@allanthornton6827 haha oh yeah I know his channel (and music) I've been listening to his projects for years! He definitely showcase the ''dirtier'' sides of synths haha
Hahaha, DAMN! I didn't realise the JMP-1 was available as a plugin! I'll have to check it out and see if I need to buy another JMP-1 rack... sold mine years ago because it wasn't quite as easy to get the industrial tones as my SansAmp PSA-1 (absolutely brutal for early Rammstein, Paul Landers used it live and in the studio for a decade plus, and I'm pretty sure Ministry's Rio Grande Blood album used it heavily, as I'm able to get great tones for Lies Lies Lies/Rio Grande Blood/Gangrene/Assclown/Señor Peligro). That said, there is a free PSA-1 plugin called "SoftAmp PSA", which I use endlessly on bass and throw on synths tracks all over the place. I've honestly not tried replicating any of my heavy guitar tones on it (stuff gets weird because the PSA-1 rack only sounds good when running a SUPER hot guitar into it, possibly causing some clipping/compression that I don't think works in the same way in the plugin, but I'll be experimenting a bit more). 5:35, major Die Krupps vibes!
I usually do death metal, but i definitely enjoy making some industrial stuff, so the JMP is definitely an amp plugin I need to get when I'm not poor. My favorite mic combination on cabs is an sm-57 on the cap edge and a 121 dead center
You could do that with pretty much any synth that has distortion! With Serum I'd go for 2 detuned sawtooth with distortion and maybe hyper in front of it. Then you could make it move with an LFO on the pan. However, there could be hundreds of way of remaking that sound hehe
@@Tonepusher Ooooh, you should definitely give it a go. Just pull up any instrument and flick through the presets. The beat mangling is nice, but it goes so much deeper
I always wondered if the vocal on Ministry's 'You Know What You Are' was done on a Eventide. Bill Leeb was a big fan of Eventide for his vocals in the 90's. Ohmicide is now free only problem is it randomly crashes a lot in Cubase. Still use because there is nothing else like it.
good question about Ministry's YKWYA ... hmm my guess would be that it is the H3000. But it's probably a combination of multiple things. hehe BUT you can easily remake that with a pitchshifter (heavily detuned) and distortion of course hehe (eq compression blabla haha)
I use Reason as my all in one DAW with JamVox as a recording interface and guitar processing vst. Reason has many things to offer, but recently I have installed the kilohearts essential bundle and feel a little overwhelmed. A video on it would be neat.
Hey, cool setup! yeah the Kilohearts Essentials Bundle is HUGE. I'm still surprised how many plugins there is in that bundle tbh. With that bundle+stock plugins you honestly don't need anything else hehe (not counting synths though).
Arturia's DIST Coldfire is pretty neat, although a huge CPU hog with some models (luckily easy to identify right away). That said, I'm still a big fan of good old Scream 4 stock plugin in Reason. It might not have everything you can imagine, but everything it offers has some use. And Noise Engineering stuff like Ruina can be quite harsh. And by harsh I mean nice.
The Eventide H3000 factory plugin is missing a bunch of the algorithms and therefore huge numbers of the classic presets. Absolutely not a true emulation of the hardware even though they market it that way.
Tbh, It's pretty rare that plugins can replicate perfectly analog gear (unless it's digital). In a mix nobody would hear the difference. 1 vs 1 though I agree, it's probably very different.
@@Tonepusher yeah I’m not so big on the small differences in hardware vs software, but with the H3000 it’s missing a bunch of algorithms and those combinations of algorithms amount to huge numbers of presets including many of the most classic ones. You can see what I mean by comparing the algorithms in the plugin vs those in the manual but it ends up being hundreds of missing presets including all the reverb ones such as crystal echoes, reverb factory, big snare etc.
haha yeah I heard of them, I really like what they do. The marketing is perfect haha I never tried it yet. I think I'll look into it now that you say that :)
@@Tonepusher yes absolutely! Serum definitely sounds different from Vital even when making identical patches. Vital sounds more sterile I would say which is a plus for Serum for sure. But both are great for everything.
😂 your trolling right? Ever heard WWIII by KMFDM…or actually paid attention to the lyrics by pretty much any industrial band??? Only musician voting for Trump is kid rock and some cover bands that perform in front of a confederate flag 😅
@@VuotoPneumaNN exactly :) lol and btw I said ''OR any type of metal'' because it works for industrial AND metal. And tbh it works with anything hehe it's just great all around.
What's up guys! Just wanted to let you know that this is no TOP 5, these are plugins that are/were very popular in the scene and also that I use ALL the time. Let me know if there's some classics I forgot. I'm always curious to try new ones :)
Btw if you want to use the presets I used for this video you can find em here:
Synths: www.tonepusher.com/product-page/electronic-body-music
Drums: www.tonepusher.com/product-page/90-s-industrial-drum-kits
Could I ask for more plucks and sequences for your preset packs? Bells are a bad substitute for plucks and Bass is too beefy sometimes to perform a pluck sound. I'm only a composer/producer and would rather not waste time in sound design when there's too many tracks I still need to build.
@@kiillabytez true, I don't make many plucks in my packs. I'll try to make more!!
I love the fact that you’ve been on industrial music for a while now.
haha yeah well, I'm making what people want to watch. I tried many things and that's what got the best numbers.
And also happen to be something I know pretty fucking well haha
me too, my favorite genre.
@@Mr2it3881 I love this music cuz it has all the elements I love about metal. Banging drums but with rhythm, catchy bass lines that also sound unique and USUALLY cool vocals and nothing sounds natural which I why I love old school death metal or slam core.
@@Tonepusher Please don’t stop. These vids are all bangers. For us newbies who make this music, things that would also do well is explaining how side chain compressors can work on other elements. I’ll take a recorded sound and stretch it out until I hear digital sounds similar to a bit crusher, drop the sound an octave and make it duck against the kick. I love experimenting and that’s where writing metal ended for me.
@@Tonepusher it’s a niche topic that not many music production channels go into. So thank you for doing that, I personally found a lot of useful and inspiring information here.
I would honourably mention the Soundtoys plugins. Trent Reznor loves using them and they have been around for many years. 🤘
ohh 100% I don't personably own them, but I know a lot of folks are using them! I might get them at black friday this year 👀
hehe sick i have x2 JMP 1's ( because i love it so much one was not enough). As for the Ohmicide i recently took the Eurorack version
ohh nice! haha take good care of it :)
Ahhhh I know that feeling... I had a SansAmp GT2 (old and new versions, PL-1 FlyRig, PSA-1, PSA-1.1, PSA-2 Rocktron Piranha, JMP-1 and a Mesa Triaxis at one point! ALL the DI preamps! Only got the GT2, PSA-1 and PL-1 these days... they seem to be what I get my best tones from. Back when I was massively into Rammstein's keyboards I had 3 Ensoniq ASR-10 keyboards and an ASR-10 rack unit! Still got the rack, and I'll be keeping that till the day I die, along with my Access Virus C. Sold the Virus to my best mate/bandmate, and sadly got it back by way of inheriting it when he died a few years back. Seriously precious bits of kit!
OHm plugins were my go to for industrial 20 years ago. For all eurorack ppl out there, OHmcide was released recently as a module, highly recommended.
yeah that Ohmicide eurorack is sexy haha I'm thinking about building a rack right now 🤪
Thanks!
Had a couple already but found some new stuff as well!
hey np man 🤘
Industrial Metal band here. We use Serum, Nexus and Rob Papen Blue.
Serum ftw!! haha I used Nexus wayyy back when it came out. It really was a popular synth at the time. Didn't try the new version yet. I think there's much more depth to it.
@@Tonepusher Nexus 4 is pretty limited to EDM styles, but they do have an awesome Cyberwave style pack that could work for some Industrial with minimal fidgeting.
Serum though, Tonepusher has everything you need to make pretty much any genre you want, and even combine genres into a twisted, schizophrenic version of two unrelated genres. I love the Tonepusher presets, and have phased out pretty much all my other plugins because of them. It's all you really need and can't wait to see what you guys have for us in the future, because I just can't get enough and want them all!
PS, I was not paid to write any of that.
@@kiillabytez even back then, it was very very EDM focused haha as well as the Vengeance packs hehe
@@Tonepusher Nexus was amazing, especially for the euro sounds. The in-built arp also was very easy to set up. The new one must be good as well, but it's on quite the pricier side considering all the expansions
@@Middlestepofficial yeah It's probably a good plugin. But ngl, 95% of the time I design my own sounds so I'm not super hyped about plugins like that. Having this said I remember using some arp stuff back then. Also sampled some of the snares I think.
I always found it funny that there was like presets that were basically a full beat lol
The fact that they made Ohmicide is crazy
I know right? haha I almost want to build a rack just to buy that module lol
@@Tonepusher dude, the urge is no joke haha, I’m sure the plugins free now too, so you can’t lose
Thank you for this! Great reccomends!
hey np man :) Kilohearts bundle is definitely the highlight hehe
If anyone else like me thinks almost anything can sound better with some overdrive/distortion texturing on it, ‘Camel Crusher’ is a free download, takes up limited CPU so it can be used all over the place, and is pretty dang excellent 🤘
Have they updated it? I thought the company that made that went out of business 15 years ago
Some great stuff there and the sound of the Ohmicide hardware module is fantastic... I still haven't jumped into euroracks yet... seems daunting to me lol
haha yeah man I'm REALLY thinking about building a synth (eurorack) for industrial. Ohmicide module would be part of it for suuure hehe
@@Tonepusher blush response has some of the best demos for modulars. He knows how to bring the filth out... In a good way lol
@@allanthornton6827 haha oh yeah I know his channel (and music) I've been listening to his projects for years! He definitely showcase the ''dirtier'' sides of synths haha
Hahaha, DAMN! I didn't realise the JMP-1 was available as a plugin! I'll have to check it out and see if I need to buy another JMP-1 rack... sold mine years ago because it wasn't quite as easy to get the industrial tones as my SansAmp PSA-1 (absolutely brutal for early Rammstein, Paul Landers used it live and in the studio for a decade plus, and I'm pretty sure Ministry's Rio Grande Blood album used it heavily, as I'm able to get great tones for Lies Lies Lies/Rio Grande Blood/Gangrene/Assclown/Señor Peligro). That said, there is a free PSA-1 plugin called "SoftAmp PSA", which I use endlessly on bass and throw on synths tracks all over the place. I've honestly not tried replicating any of my heavy guitar tones on it (stuff gets weird because the PSA-1 rack only sounds good when running a SUPER hot guitar into it, possibly causing some clipping/compression that I don't think works in the same way in the plugin, but I'll be experimenting a bit more).
5:35, major Die Krupps vibes!
I usually do death metal, but i definitely enjoy making some industrial stuff, so the JMP is definitely an amp plugin I need to get when I'm not poor. My favorite mic combination on cabs is an sm-57 on the cap edge and a 121 dead center
yeah haha can't go wrong with the JMP and a 57! 🤘
I hadn't heard some of these! Really really cool!
Thanks man! yeah I just wanted to share plugins I use all the time. That Kilohearts bundle is something! (not sponsored haha)
Can someone tell me how to replicate synth like in the video 2:36, similar to NFS Carbon - Hard Drivers synth sound?
You could do that with pretty much any synth that has distortion! With Serum I'd go for 2 detuned sawtooth with distortion and maybe hyper in front of it. Then you could make it move with an LFO on the pan.
However, there could be hundreds of way of remaking that sound hehe
Maybe not a classic Industrial plugin, but I've had great results with Infiltrator 2.
yeah I heard of it, but never tried it. Looks really cool, especially to make fills
@@Tonepusher Ooooh, you should definitely give it a go. Just pull up any instrument and flick through the presets. The beat mangling is nice, but it goes so much deeper
I always wondered if the vocal on Ministry's 'You Know What You Are' was done on a Eventide. Bill Leeb was a big fan of Eventide for his vocals in the 90's. Ohmicide is now free only problem is it randomly crashes a lot in Cubase. Still use because there is nothing else like it.
good question about Ministry's YKWYA ... hmm my guess would be that it is the H3000. But it's probably a combination of multiple things. hehe
BUT you can easily remake that with a pitchshifter (heavily detuned) and distortion of course hehe (eq compression blabla haha)
I use Reason as my all in one DAW with JamVox as a recording interface and guitar processing vst. Reason has many things to offer, but recently I have installed the kilohearts essential bundle and feel a little overwhelmed. A video on it would be neat.
Hey, cool setup! yeah the Kilohearts Essentials Bundle is HUGE. I'm still surprised how many plugins there is in that bundle tbh. With that bundle+stock plugins you honestly don't need anything else hehe (not counting synths though).
Ça serais cool d’avoir des tuto à la We are Magonia ou Draven
What music programs did you use to make electronic keyboard comparisons?
It's Cubase
Thanks
Keep up the Industrial shit! love it
thanks man :) I sure will! 🤘
Audio Damage : Grind and Kombinat TRI top 2
and of course Ohmicide no questions or debates
Cheers 🥂
Wow you just made me remember that I was using Kombinat a LOT back then. I just googled it and there's an updated one. haha I might buy that too!
NI Evolve muatations, Heviocity?
Arturia's DIST Coldfire is pretty neat, although a huge CPU hog with some models (luckily easy to identify right away). That said, I'm still a big fan of good old Scream 4 stock plugin in Reason. It might not have everything you can imagine, but everything it offers has some use. And Noise Engineering stuff like Ruina can be quite harsh. And by harsh I mean nice.
yeah man I love Scream 4 haha sounds really good. I still have a to try Coldfire, I LOVE Arturia's products.
predatOHM is a favorite, i have another OHM plug for lfos and filtering.
Anyone know wherebi can obtain OHMicide?
@@slagseed8986 Right here:
ohmsweet.ohmforce.com/pages/legacy-ohmicide
but be careful because it can crash projects hehe make backups!
I suggest jmo profiles for tonex
🤔⚡👍 SUGAR BYTES! Looperator, to start...
yeah I love SUGAR BYTES, I used the first Effectrix for years!
@@Tonepusher ⚡👍Their effect sequencing interface design is ultra sweet!
Nembrini JMP Pro is $27 right now for Black Friday >_>
too many deals right now tbh 😂
If you don’t use MISHBY by Freakshow Industries then you’re missing out 100%
haha Should I? I heard of it but never tried it. Love the UI though haha
I know that Gary Numan was raving about NI Massive
yeah, he used many NI softwares! also Omnisphere I think
The iconic sound for Gary Numan is done with the polymoog (Vox humana preset). I assume it has been sampled in omnisphere.
@@nicotronic242fla yeah that sound has been copied many times haha
Massive X has a great sound. I’ve heard a lot of very good presets.
Ohmicide is available in a X64 plugin!
yeah but I heard it makes projects crash, so I don't use it that much anymore. I'll get that eurorack module! haha
Wow you didn't mention trash 2 !!!
Agreed, I should've. But I never used it. haha Shame on me!
Surprised there was no mention of Izotope Trash… waveshaping FTW!
ngl I almost put it in the video, I don't use it THAT much that's why...but it's a classic for sure!
Ah … Ohmicide… we miss you
There is a eurorack module now.
RIP haha and yeah that eurorack is sexy af. Makes me want to build a whole ''industrial'' synth!
Knifonium. It can take your head off
The Eventide H3000 factory plugin is missing a bunch of the algorithms and therefore huge numbers of the classic presets. Absolutely not a true emulation of the hardware even though they market it that way.
Tbh, It's pretty rare that plugins can replicate perfectly analog gear (unless it's digital). In a mix nobody would hear the difference. 1 vs 1 though I agree, it's probably very different.
@@Tonepusher yeah I’m not so big on the small differences in hardware vs software, but with the H3000 it’s missing a bunch of algorithms and those combinations of algorithms amount to huge numbers of presets including many of the most classic ones. You can see what I mean by comparing the algorithms in the plugin vs those in the manual but it ends up being hundreds of missing presets including all the reverb ones such as crystal echoes, reverb factory, big snare etc.
I don't see MISHBY in here anywhere? It was purpose-built for industrial, even their marketing materials are a constant throwback to Throbbing Gristle
haha yeah I heard of them, I really like what they do. The marketing is perfect haha I never tried it yet. I think I'll look into it now that you say that :)
"effexes" ;-)
FXs 🤓
just use vital for literally everything
haha I can't disagree with that! Although I prefer using serum :)
@@Tonepusher yes absolutely! Serum definitely sounds different from Vital even when making identical patches. Vital sounds more sterile I would say which is a plus for Serum for sure. But both are great for everything.
I prefer Serum and Pigments 2
@@CemeterySoulsMusic Serum is the real deal for sure. Never tried pigments.
@@CemeterySoulsMusic love Pigments!
Given the plugins mentioned it seems like you made this video 4 years ago and just published it today... not that I disagree with anything here.
Well this is not really a ''2024 top plugins''. It's just the plugins I use the most right now and some classics.
Reaktor is too expensive
true, it's a bit expensive, BUT worth every penny IMO
@@Tonepusher the free player does just as much
FIRST !!!!!
third
Industrial musicians don’t wear “boys to men” necklaces, bro. 🤷♂️ like seriously what is going on here?
You know what industrial musicians wear? They wear what the fuck they want 😁 lol Are you the one selling the official industrial uniform? 😂
People can wear and do whatever they want. Who asked you actually?
KMFDM and ministry are now democrat lovers there music sucks now
😂 your trolling right? Ever heard WWIII by KMFDM…or actually paid attention to the lyrics by pretty much any industrial band???
Only musician voting for Trump is kid rock and some cover bands that perform in front of a confederate flag 😅
Minsblowing how easily they all can choke on neo-Marxism
Industrial is not a "type of metal"
what about industrial metal? 😂
@@Tonepusher That's a type of industrial. And a type of metal.
@@VuotoPneumaNN exactly :) lol and btw I said ''OR any type of metal'' because it works for industrial AND metal. And tbh it works with anything hehe it's just great all around.