I bet someone already has. Some boutique smithy - selling for 400 bucks. I mean, in a world where people buy (and enjoy very much) a pedal like Chase Bliss Lossy there's a decent possibility about basically anything.
This is basically my workflow: Synths > (Crappy) Mixer > Camera Side effect is it saves on having to synchronize audio and video in post. Just trim the ends off and go!
Loved watching your dumb video! It’s amazing how many of us are in the exact same boat looking for a sound that we think is perfect looking for a process that we think can be streamlined, but turns out to be more complicated. Frustration complication, social media. What a wonderful time to be alive.
@@boundatthewrists thanks so much for watching this crap! It’s wild how important getting good quality audio into your phone has become. I never thought I’d be chasing down the best way to do that but I’m glad it’s figured out and I can focus on the music part.
Attempting Jamuary for the first time... let's see if I can keep it up all month! I totally get what you're saying about having the studio set up so that it's a joy to use - I'm not quite there yet (lots of layout and wiring annoyances/obstacles) but you've given me inspiration to do it properly.
Inspiration is all I'm hoping to achieve with these types of videos so that's great to hear. Unfortunately a lot of the stuff I talk about here requires a little financial investment but once you're ready to do it, it makes music making so much more enjoyable.
I also tried to figure out recording to my phone but settled on using obs to combine my video and audio feeds. With the export of obs going to dropbox i have instant access on my devices.
that's more of a software based method? I used to just sync both files in Final Cut but it got too time consuming and loaded my hard drive up real quick.
@BounceChord ya thats irritating doing post production. With OBS it bounces to one file , you just need a plug in for your interface if you're using ASIO audio on your computer. I prefer this method because I can use multiple/different cams and it saves space on my phone
This is awesome. I'm a big fan of the simplified setup as well. I have a little mixer just like your Mackie, the outputs go straight into a handheld Zoom R4 digital multitrack recorder and I'm good to go. That tiny recorder does pretty much unlimited stereo overdubs and bounces, so I can jam, overdub if I want, and never have to touch a laptop or DAW. I'm definitely going to have to try overdriving the preamps in my mixer. Cool idea. Happy New Year!
It's great that direct-to-stereo has made a comeback. It will also make life easier for anyone who also does multitrack because they'll be used to committing to a sound before hitting Record - none of that "you gotta record clean" blx.
@@unclemick-synths yes! Commitment to a sound is great and needs to be normalized. Sending everything in completely dry has gotten so repetitive and boring.
I have gone minimal with my set up now. One synth for sub, one for bass or mid bass, one for lead, two drum machines and two desk top synths for percussion. Btw way, people who say dawless sound like what vegan sound like when the lecturer people about why they don't eat meat. We call it playing old school because there was a time before the DAW. Personally I prefer using my DAW because its my midi clock
@@b00ts4ndc4ts yeah once the hybrid setup is in there, “dawless” isn’t even an option. But you’re right; people were doing this long before DAWs were even a thing.
In the beginning God said let there be synth, and there were lots of synths but man/woman couldn't play them all so sent down his sequencers. His people were happy now they could arrange all these sounds and made beautiful things but then man/woman realise count in multiples of 2,4,8,16 and 32. The the DAW was born and the hippies and rockers thought this was evil, even some people from the electronic music scene realised it wasn't for them either. The broke off preaching how good and righteous it is ........ The called themselves the DAW-LESS. Many others decided that the enjoyed having automation, many tracks, FX loops and all the other options a DAW gave them. The story continues..........
I actually shelled out for one of those I rigs just to find it collapsed into mono anyway, had to spend $80+ to get stereo, until I learned my interface and phone WERE compatible in stereo already over usb I just needed a different dongle.
I'm finally going to attempt JAMuary this year. I'm usually so busy with work and kids that I don't have the time, but I'm going to give a shot. We shall see! Good luck!!
@@therealmattmann work and kids don’t mesh well with Jamuary. I had a second one this year so it’ll be a little difficult to get in the stu each day. We’ll see!
@ You replaced it with the new interface, right? It’s why you wanted a different recorder or interface that I am wondering about. (Desk space could be an answer.)
@ desk space was part of it. I sorta decided to just use the Tascam line mixer for anything dawless that would just end up being for social media or whatever, and then the Motu for when I’m working on a track i’ll eventually release.
I got the Rode micro DAC to do stereo in to anything with usb-c. Having a headphone port with direct monitoring makes it good for recording jams. Not that anyone is going to see them, but that should not be the main point of jamming anyhow 🤷♂️
@@infdesu yeah the iRig has a headphone out too. I don’t usually need it but I’m glad it’s there. I do love sharing stuff with the masses but there’s something very nice about just jamming for jamming’s sake.
I'll run Jamuary too and I liked your video about it a lot! Always struggled to record and editing jams in an easy way, I've solved the problem thank to a Zoom usb connected to my phone and I'm so happy with this solution! It saves me a lot of time cause before I recorded separated video (phone) and audio (laptop) and it was such a pain in the a** Can't wait to hear your Jamuary! See you there buddy! 👍
@@hellf.o yeah the syncing of audio and video isn’t the worst thing in the world but I’d rather avoid it if I can. I’m strangely excited for Jamuary this year!
Multitracking, using a daw at all, couldn’t be less appealing to me Everything goes into the Allen and Heath r16 mixer, into octatrack, the. Art pro vla 2 compressor and i record the resulting stereo mix via the interface I even have every individual mixer channel routed to my pc via adat from mixer to evo 16 (and back, if I want), but I much prefer the sound and easy intuitive organic nature of an analog “live” mix Sounds so much better to my ears Sometimes slapping a Weiss limiter on the stereo recording sounds good too but not necessary
@@christdolphin69 yeah there’s definitely something to be said about the sound of a dawless mix. Everything’s raw, nothing over compressed. I almost bought that Allen and Heath. Still might if this Tascam fails me.
@@MrMargaretScratcher I tried one just before this and couldn’t figure it out. No fault of the equipment though. I’m a ding dong and I don’t like manuals.
@@BounceChord Aha! To be fair, although mine used to work flawlessly out of the box with my Galaxy Note 8, with my Note 20 I have to do a bit of a dance with going into Pro mode in the camera, then some sort of combination of disabling and then re-enabling USB as a source, or maybe disconnecting and re-connecting. Also I can't get it to work with the Audio Evolution USB drivers, whereas it did before :(
@@MrMargaretScratcher oof! Yeah I didn’t even make it far enough with that thing to troubleshoot. Just boxed it up and sent it back to the corporate overlords. But I also got annoyed with the irig until I realized it has to be plugged into a phone to work at all……maybe I should read manuals.
Not a dumb video at all, but also iPhone problems 😝 I'm thinking about to get mackie since I need a mixer upgrade. Their preamps are legendary for that reason you are talking about. Not into gabber, but I do like some distorted kicks here and there
Thanks for the vid and taking me through that journey! Headed into Jamuary myself and we’ll see how it goes. Something about having a fast interface workflow is so good! I have an older irig that’s mono. Would be sweet to get something proper like the stream. I tried to do a call a while back using the irig and it was rough, mono and had to mix levels and had to wear two headphones. I’ll add it to my wishlist. Anyhow, hoping not to buy anything more music wise for jamuary and just get into what gear I have. Goodluck on your jamuary! I’ll check it out!
@@turbotambourine thanks for the wonderful comment! Once I got the irig setup it felt like the extra money I had to shell out was paying for convenience. Money well spent in this case. It’s weird to care so much for a mix that 99.9% of people won’t even hear the stereo spread of, but it’s important to me still. I gotta find you on IG so I can peep those jammy jams.
@ Oh I get it for sure! So many jams have kinda fallen apart when my pingpong delay just became some low end moosh. I have bought so many small things like that, clamps or an led light and every time I sweat the purchase but then the abilities it allows for are so much more than the price tag. Might be worth selling my irig and getting that one. Makes so much sense to be able to do what I want to do. Love being able to have calls with people too to show stuff or talk about patching. The irig stream would make that so much more convenient. I have jams on youtube and some videos too. I’ll be posting Jamuary stuff here every week I think as a recap. If I get to it, I’ll post dailies to Insta. Might be a simple snippet though and full jams on yourtube. Haven’t really decided.
@@hissquiet hey dude!! Patch bay is wonderful. It always seemed like something boring that would just confuse me but it makes everything so much smoother.
Behringer uca222 is a good budget option over the irig thing 20£ probably sounds just as good been using it for years with all iOS devices through camera connection kit
@@hollownation I actually tried one of those between the dongle and the irig and couldn’t figure it out somehow. I’m sure I was just not understanding it somehow.
Haha, after I went into that rabbit hole, I discovered that I enjoy laying cables and organizing sh!t more than making music. Which is OK ... until I watch a video of somebody who actually still does music and feel the GUILT. I'll try to finish a few things for Jamuary 25, promised 😂
@@g3cd there is something therapeutic about organizing a studio huh? The problem is if I post about music, it gets seen by thousands of people. If I post making music, it gets seen by….maybe 80.
Got a dumb subscriber here great video made me think about a few things might purchase one of those dongles you speak of or that other thing sounds interesting going to save this video and watch it again later as I am driving right now but must fulfill my gas
@@Bleeeaaoop thanks for the sub!! The dongle worked great for me for so long. It’s called a Headset Buddy if you want to check it out. Probably should’ve included links.
I was wondering how I missed your Jamuaries last time --- you only post them to Instagram? I feel that Instagram has done a great disservice to those of us who have been creating content on TH-cam for well over a decade. So if you only post to Instagram ... have fun I guess, but you won't be hearing from me.
@@HazeAnderson I posted them last year to my IG and here as Shorts. I’ve since deleted a lot of them though. I feel like they didn’t do too well as Shorts. It’ll be interesting to see what kind of engagement I get from IG this year since it’s even worse now.
@@BounceChord Might I recommend, when the month is over ... combine all your IG jams into one video and upload to TH-cam? I have seen others do such things in the past as a way to include both audiences. Cheers!
I tried doing hash tag jam you hairy back in 2023 got nine days in still mentally scarred so I shouldn't really be watching this, even though I do indeed record "live jams" but not "dawless" I mean, don't want to have to buy more stuff just to go "dawless" no dongles necessary
Overdriving the mackie has been a staple in electronic music production forever now I love that you stumbled upon it by chance.
@@hrvstmusic it feels like a cool secret weapon. Someone should make a pedal out of it.
I bet someone already has. Some boutique smithy - selling for 400 bucks. I mean, in a world where people buy (and enjoy very much) a pedal like Chase Bliss Lossy there's a decent possibility about basically anything.
@ I’m sure the circuit is very simple and probably similar to something an EQD Special Cranker.
@@BounceChord mid-fi demo tape fuzz... yer welcome :)
@ oh yeah that looks awesome. There’s also that one from Templo
nice insights, helpful tips 💪 cool hearing from your first hand experience
@@Reconsiderate hey thanks a lot! I’m glad this info found some people.
Totally doing JAMuary. :) have fun!
Patch panel is clutch; totally changed the game for me.
@@qbqbqdbq it really saved me a lot of headache. Wish I’d had one my whole career as a musician.
This is basically my workflow: Synths > (Crappy) Mixer > Camera
Side effect is it saves on having to synchronize audio and video in post. Just trim the ends off and go!
this is the way. I'll take any extra free time I can get.
Loved watching your dumb video! It’s amazing how many of us are in the exact same boat looking for a sound that we think is perfect looking for a process that we think can be streamlined, but turns out to be more complicated. Frustration complication, social media. What a wonderful time to be alive.
@@boundatthewrists thanks so much for watching this crap! It’s wild how important getting good quality audio into your phone has become. I never thought I’d be chasing down the best way to do that but I’m glad it’s figured out and I can focus on the music part.
Attempting Jamuary for the first time... let's see if I can keep it up all month!
I totally get what you're saying about having the studio set up so that it's a joy to use - I'm not quite there yet (lots of layout and wiring annoyances/obstacles) but you've given me inspiration to do it properly.
Inspiration is all I'm hoping to achieve with these types of videos so that's great to hear. Unfortunately a lot of the stuff I talk about here requires a little financial investment but once you're ready to do it, it makes music making so much more enjoyable.
I also tried to figure out recording to my phone but settled on using obs to combine my video and audio feeds. With the export of obs going to dropbox i have instant access on my devices.
that's more of a software based method? I used to just sync both files in Final Cut but it got too time consuming and loaded my hard drive up real quick.
@BounceChord ya thats irritating doing post production. With OBS it bounces to one file , you just need a plug in for your interface if you're using ASIO audio on your computer. I prefer this method because I can use multiple/different cams and it saves space on my phone
This is awesome. I'm a big fan of the simplified setup as well. I have a little mixer just like your Mackie, the outputs go straight into a handheld Zoom R4 digital multitrack recorder and I'm good to go. That tiny recorder does pretty much unlimited stereo overdubs and bounces, so I can jam, overdub if I want, and never have to touch a laptop or DAW. I'm definitely going to have to try overdriving the preamps in my mixer. Cool idea. Happy New Year!
@@synthsoniq that sounds amazing. I really need to looking into the Zoom multi track stuff. I wanna check out that L6. Thanks for watching!
It's great that direct-to-stereo has made a comeback. It will also make life easier for anyone who also does multitrack because they'll be used to committing to a sound before hitting Record - none of that "you gotta record clean" blx.
@@unclemick-synths yes! Commitment to a sound is great and needs to be normalized. Sending everything in completely dry has gotten so repetitive and boring.
Just won a 2002 U.S made Mackie 1642 VLZ Pro for peanuts on Ebay for exactly the same reason. Fingers crossed it's not completely ragged.
@@markderv very nice. This one’s probably not quite that old but close and everything still functions perfectly.
Love your videos man
@@m-baka thanks so much for watching. Tell your friends!
I have gone minimal with my set up now. One synth for sub, one for bass or mid bass, one for lead, two drum machines and two desk top synths for percussion.
Btw way, people who say dawless sound like what vegan sound like when the lecturer people about why they don't eat meat.
We call it playing old school because there was a time before the DAW.
Personally I prefer using my DAW because its my midi clock
@@b00ts4ndc4ts yeah once the hybrid setup is in there, “dawless” isn’t even an option. But you’re right; people were doing this long before DAWs were even a thing.
In the beginning God said let there be synth, and there were lots of synths but man/woman couldn't play them all so sent down his sequencers.
His people were happy now they could arrange all these sounds and made beautiful things but then man/woman realise count in multiples of 2,4,8,16 and 32.
The the DAW was born and the hippies and rockers thought this was evil, even some people from the electronic music scene realised it wasn't for them either.
The broke off preaching how good and righteous it is ........
The called themselves the DAW-LESS.
Many others decided that the enjoyed having automation, many tracks, FX loops and all the other options a DAW gave them.
The story continues..........
I actually shelled out for one of those I rigs just to find it collapsed into mono anyway, had to spend $80+ to get stereo, until I learned my interface and phone WERE compatible in stereo already over usb I just needed a different dongle.
@@Fred_pimpstone-II it’s so annoying how difficult phones have made it to record audio and video.
I'm finally going to attempt JAMuary this year. I'm usually so busy with work and kids that I don't have the time, but I'm going to give a shot. We shall see! Good luck!!
@@therealmattmann work and kids don’t mesh well with Jamuary. I had a second one this year so it’ll be a little difficult to get in the stu each day. We’ll see!
I’m surprised that the Model 12 didn’t work fine, placed downstream from your character mixers.
@@tracyharms3548 it was totally fine. I just needed some bite that I couldn’t get from the Model 12.
@ You replaced it with the new interface, right? It’s why you wanted a different recorder or interface that I am wondering about. (Desk space could be an answer.)
@ desk space was part of it. I sorta decided to just use the Tascam line mixer for anything dawless that would just end up being for social media or whatever, and then the Motu for when I’m working on a track i’ll eventually release.
I got the Rode micro DAC to do stereo in to anything with usb-c. Having a headphone port with direct monitoring makes it good for recording jams.
Not that anyone is going to see them, but that should not be the main point of jamming anyhow 🤷♂️
@@infdesu yeah the iRig has a headphone out too. I don’t usually need it but I’m glad it’s there. I do love sharing stuff with the masses but there’s something very nice about just jamming for jamming’s sake.
I'll run Jamuary too and I liked your video about it a lot!
Always struggled to record and editing jams in an easy way, I've solved the problem thank to a Zoom usb connected to my phone and I'm so happy with this solution!
It saves me a lot of time cause before I recorded separated video (phone) and audio (laptop) and it was such a pain in the a**
Can't wait to hear your Jamuary!
See you there buddy! 👍
@@hellf.o yeah the syncing of audio and video isn’t the worst thing in the world but I’d rather avoid it if I can. I’m strangely excited for Jamuary this year!
Multitracking, using a daw at all, couldn’t be less appealing to me
Everything goes into the Allen and Heath r16 mixer, into octatrack, the. Art pro vla 2 compressor and i record the resulting stereo mix via the interface
I even have every individual mixer channel routed to my pc via adat from mixer to evo 16 (and back, if I want), but I much prefer the sound and easy intuitive organic nature of an analog “live” mix
Sounds so much better to my ears
Sometimes slapping a Weiss limiter on the stereo recording sounds good too but not necessary
@@christdolphin69 yeah there’s definitely something to be said about the sound of a dawless mix. Everything’s raw, nothing over compressed. I almost bought that Allen and Heath. Still might if this Tascam fails me.
Behringer UCA202 is a slightly cheaper solution to getting audio into your phone.
@@MrMargaretScratcher I tried one just before this and couldn’t figure it out. No fault of the equipment though. I’m a ding dong and I don’t like manuals.
@@BounceChord Aha! To be fair, although mine used to work flawlessly out of the box with my Galaxy Note 8, with my Note 20 I have to do a bit of a dance with going into Pro mode in the camera, then some sort of combination of disabling and then re-enabling USB as a source, or maybe disconnecting and re-connecting. Also I can't get it to work with the Audio Evolution USB drivers, whereas it did before :(
@@MrMargaretScratcher oof! Yeah I didn’t even make it far enough with that thing to troubleshoot. Just boxed it up and sent it back to the corporate overlords.
But I also got annoyed with the irig until I realized it has to be plugged into a phone to work at all……maybe I should read manuals.
This is exactly what I use and it's made life so much easier!
Great dumb video! 😃
I can't wait to see your jams in Jamuary. Happy New Year!
@@KevinPlaysGuitar thanks dude! I’m excited to jam them!
Not a dumb video at all, but also iPhone problems 😝 I'm thinking about to get mackie since I need a mixer upgrade. Their preamps are legendary for that reason you are talking about. Not into gabber, but I do like some distorted kicks here and there
@@Medniex kicks love a Mackie mixer. I wonder how the new ones with the Onyx pres compare these older ones.
Sick content, man 👍🏾
@@xammai9679 thanks so much!!
Thanks for the vid and taking me through that journey! Headed into Jamuary myself and we’ll see how it goes. Something about having a fast interface workflow is so good! I have an older irig that’s mono. Would be sweet to get something proper like the stream. I tried to do a call a while back using the irig and it was rough, mono and had to mix levels and had to wear two headphones. I’ll add it to my wishlist. Anyhow, hoping not to buy anything more music wise for jamuary and just get into what gear I have. Goodluck on your jamuary! I’ll check it out!
@@turbotambourine thanks for the wonderful comment! Once I got the irig setup it felt like the extra money I had to shell out was paying for convenience. Money well spent in this case. It’s weird to care so much for a mix that 99.9% of people won’t even hear the stereo spread of, but it’s important to me still.
I gotta find you on IG so I can peep those jammy jams.
@ Oh I get it for sure! So many jams have kinda fallen apart when my pingpong delay just became some low end moosh. I have bought so many small things like that, clamps or an led light and every time I sweat the purchase but then the abilities it allows for are so much more than the price tag. Might be worth selling my irig and getting that one. Makes so much sense to be able to do what I want to do. Love being able to have calls with people too to show stuff or talk about patching. The irig stream would make that so much more convenient.
I have jams on youtube and some videos too. I’ll be posting Jamuary stuff here every week I think as a recap. If I get to it, I’ll post dailies to Insta. Might be a simple snippet though and full jams on yourtube. Haven’t really decided.
My dawless TH-cam hero: Ehsan Gelsi
JAMUARYYY! I've gotta get a patchbay one of these days. I've been loving my Roland Go:Mixer Pro for direct to phone/camera jam videos
@@hissquiet hey dude!! Patch bay is wonderful. It always seemed like something boring that would just confuse me but it makes everything so much smoother.
Clipping is the best drive. No need for a pedal if you have a half decent analog mixer.
@@l1fef0rm yeah but now I want to own a big pile of little cheap mixers.
u can use ANY device as a preamp...any vcr, tape deck etc...can build tgem. can buy them for less than 2$
@@Sim-q9t I actually just got a VCR for free recently. I’m gonna shred a fat guitar solo through one.
Are you me? My studio is a mess.... I have two patchbays and three or more interfaces now... ffs. FK Jamuary anyway. Good content. 🤘
@@mikenoface I am you.
@@BounceChord I thought so. Gonna get these patchbays sorted.
Behringer uca222 is a good budget option over the irig thing 20£ probably sounds just as good been using it for years with all iOS devices through camera connection kit
@@hollownation I actually tried one of those between the dongle and the irig and couldn’t figure it out somehow. I’m sure I was just not understanding it somehow.
Subbed. Great vid.
@@Rustik1722 thank you so much!!
BRAVO!!! 👏👏.... #714.
@@jtrace-444 hey thanks a lot! Thanks for hanging around.
Jamuary is so stressful lol
And it shouldn’t be
@@mwhitelow9312 haha it is
Haha, after I went into that rabbit hole, I discovered that I enjoy laying cables and organizing sh!t more than making music. Which is OK ... until I watch a video of somebody who actually still does music and feel the GUILT. I'll try to finish a few things for Jamuary 25, promised 😂
@@g3cd there is something therapeutic about organizing a studio huh? The problem is if I post about music, it gets seen by thousands of people. If I post making music, it gets seen by….maybe 80.
@ For that reason, I'm starting a new niche channel just for music to appease the algorithm gods in '25. Let's see how it goes 🫤
@@g3cd asmr but it’s just the sounds of wrapping cables and shoving stuff to the back of drawers.
Got a dumb subscriber here great video made me think about a few things might purchase one of those dongles you speak of or that other thing sounds interesting going to save this video and watch it again later as I am driving right now but must fulfill my gas
@@Bleeeaaoop thanks for the sub!! The dongle worked great for me for so long. It’s called a Headset Buddy if you want to check it out. Probably should’ve included links.
Jamurai sword
@@StevenLopez-o9n yesssssss!!!
I was wondering how I missed your Jamuaries last time --- you only post them to Instagram? I feel that Instagram has done a great disservice to those of us who have been creating content on TH-cam for well over a decade. So if you only post to Instagram ... have fun I guess, but you won't be hearing from me.
@@HazeAnderson I posted them last year to my IG and here as Shorts. I’ve since deleted a lot of them though. I feel like they didn’t do too well as Shorts. It’ll be interesting to see what kind of engagement I get from IG this year since it’s even worse now.
@@BounceChord subbed either way! I look forward to your creations this month! 🙂
@@HazeAnderson much appreciated! I subbed yours too. Excited to see more jamming since my TH-cam feed has been a lot of corporate shillery lately.
@@BounceChord Might I recommend, when the month is over ... combine all your IG jams into one video and upload to TH-cam? I have seen others do such things in the past as a way to include both audiences. Cheers!
@ yes, great idea! They are all vertically formatted so should I annotate on the side or do commentary or something?
This is not a mixer … lol …
I tried doing hash tag jam you hairy back in 2023
got nine days in
still mentally scarred
so I shouldn't really be watching this, even though I do indeed record "live jams"
but not "dawless"
I mean, don't want to have to buy more stuff just to go "dawless"
no dongles necessary
Jamuary: flooding internet servers with a whole lotta boring🤭
P.s. new subscriber here
I don't know what Jamuary is and I don't care about instagram.
ignorance is bliss
@@kgreggbruce1552 Especially when it comes to anything involving Mark Zuckerburg ;)
@@whatilearnttoday5295 I could’ve easily explained it in two sentences I guess.
@@BounceChord "jamuary" is pretty self-explanatory.