I like the quote, really- I do, I don't 100% agree with that though. It depends on the definition of 'war'. Ergo: "Kill them with _kindness_ ." Imagine IF someone tries to steal your car- but you have a spare thousand dollars and offer it!? There's a possibility that otherwise thief might walk away- Well... of course if the potential thief doesn't though, I'm fine with shooting and/or calling 911 on the thief.
"Do not see the world as it should be, see it as it is." I wish I had learned and accepted that earlier in life. We tend to be idealistic in our younger years and wish that things operated in the "correct" manner. Stop looking at the world in terms of how you think it should work and work within the framework of how it IS.
@@Vaith I wouldnt say its really stupid brother. What he isnt saying we cant change things and work to do that, but its that we shouldnt act as visionaries when we are creating our next step. Its basically realism mate, and without saying its stupid you can actually learn from it and better yourself brother. Everything can be used as learning.
Well, you might not get the chance to meet him, but you should definitely research Jordan Peterson. I believe he's one of Machiavelli's "kind," if you will. Tells it as he sees it too.
Yeah he's really just telling us his observation...and based off his observation he came up with an effective guide that could help anyone dominate their field...
Lamar Lavine FreeYourselfMorowa Oh No you Don't! ("I wish I knew someone like him".) There are Plenty of them 'Out There' now. Tagged with different Labels, like Narcissist & Sociopath...15+ yrs ago, a combination of those 2 began to emerge in Headlines, & now the term 'Narcissistic Sociopath' is in the Lexicon. Think "Ted Bundy", & you'll get an fairly accurate picture of the above Labels...I'm guessing y'all are Youngling's...(My term for under 40) I'm 76, & No, not All of us are Brain Dead or Drooling. I had an Education y'all couldn't dream of, & began reading & studying Machiavelli, & most of his contemporaries (Including a Woman), as a Freshman in HS... (Oops! Hope No Victim's searching for new Wounds see THAT Word!)I'm perfectly serious when I say you all have been Robbed of a true Education, in some cases, to the point of Abuse! That & the outright Lies used to destort History I know 1st hand, has left you handicapped, & some of you may be realising it..Especially true for those 20+ & under... Bottom line, In a Culture where All Truth is Relative, the Definition for what constitutes Good & Evil are the 1st casualties, & without intervention, the ensuing Chaos will be impossible to stop without a Dictatorship & there's always one available... Be careful & Slow to call an Idea "Good" & Learn Who, will gain What, by Pushing it.
The interesting thing about Machiavelli is he preferred to use history rather than lofty ideals as some philosophers might do in his theories. History gives examples and he studied these examples to make his arguments. He proved the genuine value of history and showed how it can be used.
To infiltrate The democracy and manipulate it towards where you want is not all follow these tips and you Will be fine, one must be good at appearing good, to appar efficient and effective, but to step after step get it closer to where you want which takes patience and a Great mind
One thing we should add, is that one should never, ever, ever be hated. One can be feared, but that fear must breed respect begrudging or not. Fear prevents actions against you. However, hatred and fear breeds rebellion as the penalty for resisting you is seen as preferable to life under you. Ensure that whatever action you take, you never breed hatred. Never be arbitrary, never act overtly unjust, never take any action which can result in you being hated, and if you have to, always ensure that someone else takes the fall for it. Though act cautiously, as if anyone figures out, those who work under you, may also turn to hate you. Basically, don't act dirty just for the sake of acting dirty.
If some hates you that means you've already defeated him or her. This is written in the Japanese proverbs of ancient wisdom. But that's for you to decide. Me I could give a poop of who hates me, cause it's better that I'm the one hated rather than me hating them or whoever. When you hold hate inside you all bottled up it is so toxic inside and this turns into terrible sickness for your own health, it can make you obeast. No offence but anyone will hate you just because you exist but didn't even do anything wrong to anybody, it's just the stupid hate they have over you that your still alive and ok.😳😳😳😳😳👼👼
In turn, I think more than feared, you must yearn to be respected. Love is something for selected ones, fear is a tool to avoid being attacked, hate however is only for the ocasional 1 or 2 people who are too isolated to harm you. Respect however is something you must get as much as you can. If you stand your ground and balance compassion and ruthlessness correctly then even people who might not like you will not try to harm you either, or at least would think twice to do that.
I got a D in a test about Machiavelli in high school. the teacher was pissed with me because I kept writing MaCChiavelli with a double C instead of just one. Later I found out that Machiavelli himself wrote his name MaCChiavelli.
I could've learned from this guy. I tried to tackle inefficiency and bullying in my new management role. Boy was I wrong and while I may won the hearts of some of staff, management was surprisingly opposing even though they asked in the interview how I would resolve their issues. If I just kept to myself and pretty much did nothing, I would've made it through the ranks but I wanted to be a hero for someone. I also learned to never ever change anything when new even if the majority seems to agree with you. It's a dog world out there. The managers that knew how to lie and play the popularity game made it far......it's sad but goes along what this guy is saying: play the game that is being played even if it's wrong otherwise you won't succeed....... I recall asking my son to always share and let other kids go in front of him when they were trying to get to the front of the line. My dad told me to stop as no one else does. Play nice only if others do
In my opinion he could foresee the deceits, manipulation, controlling and wicked tactics of people. In conclusion, he taught how to be strong and not be fooled in life
The ends justify the means is a translation. It reads more think of the end. Though those who justified their actions from this quote didn't really care what he really meant.
"The Road to Hell is Paved with Good Intentions" is a contrapositive statement of "The End justifies the Means" If you get the result that you wanted, the means were correct. If you never get the result that you wanted, that proves the means were bad.
If only Italians of the age would have listen and apply Macchiavelli's ideas, we could have been a decent nation now. a better one, and much more respected.
“To be GOVERNED is to be watched, inspected, spied upon, directed, law-driven, numbered, regulated, enrolled, indoctrinated, preached at, controlled, checked, estimated, valued, censured, commanded, by creatures who have neither the right nor the wisdom nor the virtue to do so. To be GOVERNED is to be at every operation, at every transaction noted, registered, counted, taxed, stamped, measured, numbered, assessed, licensed, authorized, admonished, prevented, forbidden, reformed, corrected, punished. It is, under pretext of public utility, and in the name of the general interest, to be place under contribution, drilled, fleeced, exploited, monopolized, extorted from, squeezed, hoaxed, robbed; then, at the slightest resistance, the first word of complaint, to be repressed, fined, vilified, harassed, hunted down, abused, clubbed, disarmed, bound, choked, imprisoned, judged, condemned, shot, deported, sacrificed, sold, betrayed; and to crown all, mocked, ridiculed, derided, outraged, dishonored. That is government; that is its justice; that is its morality." ― Pierre-Joseph Proudhon
Yes, Machiavelli advised that upon conquering a principality, the victorious prince should: 1) ensure that the family of the principality's former rulers are entirely "extinct", 2) avoid changes to their traditions, customs and laws and 3) don't mess with their taxes!!!
It depends very much on what your goals are. If your goals are centered on success in the world the Machiavelli has useful advise. However, you value your soul and your eternal destiny, then much of what Machiavelli advises is unwise for "what does it profit a man if he should gain the whole world but lose his immortal soul".
Yep Machiavelli was correct “the ends always justify the means📚” it doesn’t matter how you need to get things done more time we just do what ever is effective, energy cost effective & recourse cost effective to achieve our f*cking goals. The real world isn’t Disney land you gotta be brutal when needed to make a statement, there’s a time & a place for Solomon’s philosophy on dealing with the events in the world when you come across them but more time now it calls for you to boss up completely ✅. Good breakdown on this video .
Exactly,just like how my city had a homeless problem,so we rounded all the homeless people up taught to them how to stop breathing,and stuffed the bodies in storage units. The ends always justify the means. We have fewer homeless now 😀
Machiavelli was a genius authoritarian, but only a genius in that way. He wrote his book and targeted his philosophy at kings and leaders as a way to encourage them to have greater authority, more control, and more power. This era was an era of war and colonialism and the world was governed by corruption and fear was a speciality of the bureaucracy while the masses were uneducated and uninformed. His ideas may work in war, but in everyday life or leadership or business, we should not desire to do harm and act in a manner applicable to war.
This Guy is For Those Who Are Real And are not afraid of telling people that they wanna rule the fkin World one day . I read his book (The Prince) as a 7-8 Yo n it's my dad who made me read it . This is real thing , this is reality n Matthew McConaughey said it right "The World Was never fair , it's not now and it'll never be" . After reading the book , I can't say I'm changed but coz if a book Can change you ? I don't think u've a stable personality but I changed my perspective abt certain things . Niccolò Machiavelli was too real to be in the world of hypocrites . Not to mention he was born in the era of that Italy which used to see wars all day n night. 🍺🍺
Number 1 was never said by Machiavelli, but is a popular interpretation of his advice. It would be useful to read The Prince, but better to read his book about Livy to put his advice into context and understand the extent of his realism.
I think the quote itself can have a much more positive interpretation. "If you want things to be good, you need to prepare yourself to do what must be done." Never execute innocents nor try to make an evil utopia alright, but something as simple as self-defense from a dangerous criminal might ocasionally result in taking a life. You don't advocate for vice nor go in your way to ruin lives, but you must not be soft against people who want to destroy you one way or another. Or as an old saying from someone I don't remember, well, can't remember the exact words but it goes like this: "Always talk about diplomacy while carrying a big stick."
My first try with the Prince I was 10 (late 60s). I have since read it in sections and in total at least a dozen times. Currently I am rereading sections of Machiavelli’s The Prince and Marcus Aurelius’s Meditations. Certain Knowledge, Understanding and Philosophies never go “Out of Date”.
"The Prince was an advice guide for politicians." This is a mistaken concept that has gone mainstream. The Prince was a discourse on human nature which Machiavelli understood better than anyone even modern members of the "therapeutic community."
Hate when people say "It is better to be feared than loved" presuming the caveat is "both are desirable".. it's literally the last part of the sentence which is "but NEVER HATED".
i think being loved is better then being feared not all should love you but the most because if they love you they well sacrifice for you and trust you in every step
I like Machiavelli's words, but my brother brought up a good point. "Why should we care about Machiavelli?" I responded by saying "couldn't you say the same about any intellectual or philosopher?" but certainly there must be a better answer out there.
Judge the message not the messenger. What machiavelli said is rationally sound no matter who said it. It's about game theory and maximizing your chances as a ruler. "2+2=4" doesn't suddenly become incorrect just because hitler says it.
he also made a point about how it's easier to conquer a state with an entrenched noble class, as you can sway the nobles to your side, but harder to hold onto this state, as these same nobles may turn against you. On the flip side, it's harder to conquer a state with appointed bureaucrats and regional governors, as these bureaucrats are loyal to the incumbent regime, but once you've prevailed, and appointed your own bureaucrats, it's easier to hold onto.
It is better to be feared than to be loved . I believe in this bcz the person who loves you can say anything and di anything that can maybe hury u but the person who feared you always think 100 times before say you something
Machiavelli was wise, indeed. However, the ends never justify the means. This was, in my humble opinion, the greatest flaw in, "The Prince." Much of his other recommendations were sound, if a bit nasty. Reality is a nasty business, and power is something everyone wants, but is ill prepared to handle.
@@zinzorius313 Because that's what someone like Hitler would think. So you want to win the lottery, so you cheat. You want to be alone, so you kill everyone nearby. In both easy examples, the good end were achieved by terrible means. Now that's why the ends do not justify the means.
Truth. That's why I'm here. For me, this subject further proves people do not change. Individuals can change. But in general, humans never change. Only the technology we use changes. It also proves, that I'm not fucking crazy, I should have been a fine prince but I'm just finding out about THIS PART of the GAME! Tupac should have elaborated on this shit FR 😠
“The ends justify the means.” Has been the rationale behind just about every atrocity committed throughout history. It’s smart to keep your cards close to your chest but being overly Machiavellian will almost always bite you in the ass.
Abdeladim Jay Jawad Jawad That will only bring you pain. Treat others how they deserve to be treated, ( just respect ) because your own desires, values, and morals more than likely won't match with others. I learned this the very hard way. I grew up hearing that line and tried to live by it, I want to a champion street soldier dealer fighter artist that would be there to lend a hand to everybody; in work, in battle, in celebration, in finance, ... that stupid saying contradicts life in general and I wish I never learned of it. For instance, treat others how you want to be treated. I want good health, money, stability in life, family and friends I can count on when I'm down or up. you can't treat everybody to that. That will only lead to you to be taken advantage of. Trust is earned and not given. The saying could be further from the truth, Confuscious now sounds like a bastard communist. Treat all others with extreme caution, for they can take all that you have. I want to be able to get a cash loan when I need one, should I just go give out loans to others? I want to be a man of my word, should I be believing everybody's else's word. 38 years on this earth, only to realize so much of it consist of compost !
Machiavelli doesn't think that the ends justifies the means. He doesn't justify wrong doings at all. He just simply sees it as more efficient to only concern yourself with the results and outcome rather than how you go about achieving that outcome.
Its not talking about fear necessarily ...ffear breeds rebellion and mistrust...it talls about respect. If you cant choose between live and respect,choose respect becauae its better.
I rather live by Jesus's teachings. Don't fear man who can just kill the body but fear God who can kill not only the body but can send the soul to hell.
Joe The Barean if a government decides that you were dangerous and decided to torture and kill you, you think God is scarier? Imagine being humiliated, raped, beaten, dominated, tortured, and maimed while under the power of evil people on earth. How is God scarier than that?
You’re not seeing the bigger picture. It’s the afterlife that counts the most. You can be humiliated tortured whatever but that’s just in this life , where pain only lasts to a certain degree, the one that is only for a while and not for eternity like the afterlife. That is why you give your faith to God so that you can be free for storming. @Hershey Cookie
Most comments here seem to praise Machiavelli. You need to balance that with the consideration that he was a man of his times. Power games in those days carried a lot more severe consequences if your power was undermined or taken away. You could be put to death for aligning yourself with the wrong people or belief. Machiavelli wrote his book as a kind of guide to those close to power looking to advance themselves. Nowadays there are people living towards a Machiavellian persuasion who don't even know who Machiavelli was - politicians, bankers, lawyers. These institutions are by their very nature inclusive and extremely protective of their financial activities across the globe. Todays Machiavellians are the elitists, subtly manipulating regulations to better suit themselves. As far as us ordinary folk are concerned, Machaiavellian teaching is mostly immaterial. Unless you happen to be extremely ambitious and looking to change the world.
Tbe prince was the first ever full philosophical thesis I've ever read. Before that it was utube videos, wikipedia and some news and articles. 2 years later I'm still a firm follower of machiavellian theory
Il Principe is a good read, but he let's go off all pretence in Discorso. He was a general bad guy to be fair and the Prussian King Frederich II (a few centuries later) wrote his anti-Machiavell because of it.⬅again a good read.
That's why he said if possible both because he knows in some cases love can be used as a tool. But in most cases fear gets the job done. Most people go to work out of the "fear" of losing something
This advice is pure dark psychology coated with unoffensive words. Strange, these things are clear and I can easily see through ones bullshit now that I heard it all. It would be easy to not be disrupted with a bossy person from hereon out.
In politics, you NEED to take the world as it is. And if you don't you will lose power, if not die; and if you aren't in power, than someone you can't trust is in power. In this sort of situation you need to sacrifice for the long term good, but a good ruler will use these tactics only when needed.
@@jameswalker2402 I'm glad I can help this is after he saves them from riding in the car with those idiots for the firebombing he's sitting in the back
Sun Tzu compiled similar principles in " The Art of War " and although I agree holistically with the overall gist of the strategic principles of them both, I would push back against some of them to a degree and argue that in many regards one must be pragmatic and never adopt a black or white, always this or that approach to anything meaningful or important.
Little secret: Be your self, because we all naturally have powers of a ruler in our natural state which all great men talk about. These man learned from people bring their selves. But there is alot to achieving this natural state. It just doesn't come. As a kid you were fearless would talk or approach anyone and even if you wanted something you was relentless in getting it. Maybe cried ,yelled and smashed things. As an adult you should of had the same tanciaty but achieving in more rational ways. In other words you lost your zest for life. What happened? EXPERIENCE AND WHAT PEOPLE MADE BELIEVE BEAT YOU DOWN(this at times happens to you subconsciously) To reach this state again takes some inner searching and acceptance of your reality. I'm not claiming to be a guru nor I'm a "powerful" figure. But,once you learn self mastery you might or might not become a powerful figure,but I can gauretee you will "feel" like the most powerful figure walking. This will be your subjective feeling with no fakery to it. It's super confidence with out being aroggant. This takes some work,but it's well worth it. Email me if interested.
10.) Don't rely solely on those who have no personal attachment to you 9.) Imitate the greats and those who were successful 8.) Do not help those who might intend to do you harm later 7.) Integrate, don't try to force change. 6.) pretty straight forward and applicable, no matter the times 5.) be pragmatic, not idealistic. what works, works. what doesn't work, doesn't. work with what you are given. not what you want 4.) try to align yourself with as much people as possible, but if you need to choose, ally with the most powerful (in his case, it's the common people) 3.) Do what you must, as effectively as you can, but keep the unsavory deeds secret. 2.) again also applicable no matter the time. 1.) only the goal truly matters.
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" War cannot be avoided. Only postponed to the benefit of others. "
- Niccolo Machiavelli
I like the quote, really- I do, I don't 100% agree with that though. It depends on the definition of 'war'. Ergo: "Kill them with _kindness_ ." Imagine IF someone tries to steal your car- but you have a spare thousand dollars and offer it!? There's a possibility that otherwise thief might walk away- Well... of course if the potential thief doesn't though, I'm fine with shooting and/or calling 911 on the thief.
"Do not see the world as it should be, see it as it is." I wish I had learned and accepted that earlier in life. We tend to be idealistic in our younger years and wish that things operated in the "correct" manner. Stop looking at the world in terms of how you think it should work and work within the framework of how it IS.
This comment is exceedingly underrated
Trump an should learn that lesson. He sees the world as he wants it and acts accordingly
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then how the fuck do you change things? that's just stupid...
@@Vaith I wouldnt say its really stupid brother. What he isnt saying we cant change things and work to do that, but its that we shouldnt act as visionaries when we are creating our next step. Its basically realism mate, and without saying its stupid you can actually learn from it and better yourself brother. Everything can be used as learning.
I always hear people say that this man is evil in my opinion hes not he is just a person who basically tells it like it is
MOTHAFUCKIN ROBOT this man is a very intelligent man .....his kind must be extinct by now i wish I knew someone like this😱
Mr ROBOT True the world expects u to kiss ass
Well, you might not get the chance to meet him, but you should definitely research Jordan Peterson. I believe he's one of Machiavelli's "kind," if you will. Tells it as he sees it too.
Yeah he's really just telling us his observation...and based off his observation he came up with an effective guide that could help anyone dominate their field...
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Oh No you Don't! ("I wish I knew someone like him".) There are Plenty of them 'Out There' now. Tagged with different Labels, like Narcissist & Sociopath...15+ yrs ago, a combination of those
2 began to emerge in Headlines, & now the term 'Narcissistic Sociopath' is in the Lexicon. Think "Ted Bundy", & you'll get an fairly accurate picture of the above Labels...I'm guessing y'all are Youngling's...(My term for under 40) I'm 76, & No, not All of us are Brain Dead or Drooling.
I had an Education y'all couldn't dream of, & began reading & studying Machiavelli, & most of his contemporaries (Including a Woman), as a Freshman in HS... (Oops! Hope No Victim's searching for new Wounds see THAT Word!)I'm perfectly serious when I say you all have been Robbed of a true Education, in some cases, to the point of Abuse! That & the outright Lies used to destort History I know 1st hand, has left you handicapped, & some of you may be realising it..Especially true for those 20+ & under... Bottom line, In a Culture where All Truth is Relative, the Definition for what constitutes Good & Evil are the 1st casualties, & without intervention, the ensuing Chaos will be impossible to stop without a Dictatorship & there's always one available...
Be careful & Slow to call an Idea "Good" & Learn Who, will gain What, by Pushing it.
The interesting thing about Machiavelli is he preferred to use history rather than lofty ideals as some philosophers might do in his theories. History gives examples and he studied these examples to make his arguments. He proved the genuine value of history and showed how it can be used.
You forgot about the best one, "If you aim for the king, make sure you kill him"
"You should have aimed for the head" - Thanos
Is that an Omar Little reference?
@@InitialPC the heart is more valuable than the head
thanks im ready to rule my empire now
Rise of kingdom!!
You mean you're ready to rule my Empire lol
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To infiltrate The democracy and manipulate it towards where you want is not all follow these tips and you Will be fine, one must be good at appearing good, to appar efficient and effective, but to step after step get it closer to where you want which takes patience and a Great mind
reign well my dude
One thing we should add, is that one should never, ever, ever be hated. One can be feared, but that fear must breed respect begrudging or not. Fear prevents actions against you. However, hatred and fear breeds rebellion as the penalty for resisting you is seen as preferable to life under you.
Ensure that whatever action you take, you never breed hatred. Never be arbitrary, never act overtly unjust, never take any action which can result in you being hated, and if you have to, always ensure that someone else takes the fall for it.
Though act cautiously, as if anyone figures out, those who work under you, may also turn to hate you. Basically, don't act dirty just for the sake of acting dirty.
Hal Effect He gives examples of Roman Emperors who appeared to be blood thirsty tyrants so they were deposed.
Most evil lords of fantasy and sci fi clearly skipped that part.
If some hates you that means you've already defeated him or her. This is written in the Japanese proverbs of ancient wisdom. But that's for you to decide. Me I could give a poop of who hates me, cause it's better that I'm the one hated rather than me hating them or whoever. When you hold hate inside you all bottled up it is so toxic inside and this turns into terrible sickness for your own health, it can make you obeast. No offence but anyone will hate you just because you exist but didn't even do anything wrong to anybody, it's just the stupid hate they have over you that your still alive and ok.😳😳😳😳😳👼👼
In turn, I think more than feared, you must yearn to be respected. Love is something for selected ones, fear is a tool to avoid being attacked, hate however is only for the ocasional 1 or 2 people who are too isolated to harm you.
Respect however is something you must get as much as you can. If you stand your ground and balance compassion and ruthlessness correctly then even people who might not like you will not try to harm you either, or at least would think twice to do that.
Machiavelli said avoud being despised not hated.
I got a D in a test about Machiavelli in high school. the teacher was pissed with me because I kept writing MaCChiavelli with a double C instead of just one. Later I found out that Machiavelli himself wrote his name MaCChiavelli.
Should have punked the teacher
should have shit on his desk
So MacChiavelli was actually Scottish?
Remcō Schedel no american
WeLLaLbedamneD by taking a shit on her desk
Heros see the world as they should be, villains see it the way it truly is. This is why the bad guy makes so much sense as an adult.
damn
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At least you didn't use an insulting computer voice.
midnight rider he didnt?
It wasn't sarcastic billy...
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Lool
But he did have a lobotomy :-/ so no cookie for badgerman
I came for Tupac.
Stayed for the philosophy.
Same
If tupac is still alive then he was a Machiavellian if he really got killed he's just another loud mouth nigga.
tupac loved this great italian
Same bro same
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N.M was brilliant. He saw human nature.
Mark Kuchmar definitely
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Exactly, he saw what others hardly did.
At last, someone else who understands him.
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Still so true. I love the part about balancing nobility off the people. Basically states the art of worker vs business politics in modern age.
Ain't no workers representation in modern politics though. Apart from a few big unions who don't represent the majority of workers
These advices of his were major relevant in the past and in today's world, it's still relevant.
I could've learned from this guy. I tried to tackle inefficiency and bullying in my new management role. Boy was I wrong and while I may won the hearts of some of staff, management was surprisingly opposing even though they asked in the interview how I would resolve their issues. If I just kept to myself and pretty much did nothing, I would've made it through the ranks but I wanted to be a hero for someone. I also learned to never ever change anything when new even if the majority seems to agree with you. It's a dog world out there. The managers that knew how to lie and play the popularity game made it far......it's sad but goes along what this guy is saying: play the game that is being played even if it's wrong otherwise you won't succeed.......
I recall asking my son to always share and let other kids go in front of him when they were trying to get to the front of the line. My dad told me to stop as no one else does. Play nice only if others do
I read about nicollo Machiavelli everyday. I look up to this guy. He is my role model. Rest in peace Niccolo Machiavelli.
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"Rotate your car tires every six thousand miles.".
In my opinion he could foresee the deceits, manipulation, controlling and wicked tactics of people. In conclusion, he taught how to be strong and not be fooled in life
The ends justify the means is a translation. It reads more think of the end. Though those who justified their actions from this quote didn't really care what he really meant.
Point 7
1.Make them dependent on you
2.Move your capital there
3.Annihilate them
I never said any of this! Honestly
Lo!
Your bro Niccolo did
Joseph Machiavelli YO DEADASS G??? I GOTCHU WE BOUTTA REPORT BRUH LOL
Sunzi said it actually you just added flavors plagiarist
Yo where's Niccolo?
"The Road to Hell is Paved with Good Intentions"
is a contrapositive statement of "The End justifies the Means"
If you get the result that you wanted, the means were correct.
If you never get the result that you wanted, that proves the means were bad.
Yes, only works in joke telling.
If only Italians of the age would have listen and apply Macchiavelli's ideas, we could have been a decent nation now. a better one, and much more respected.
Mussolini tried it . This philosophy is perfect for an autocrat.
@Brik Malek Berlusconi only done laws to avoid himself justice trials and also other things but his govern was bad
Machiavelli was a genius of sarcasm and knowlege.
I was him if him not born.
Bravo !
I've read this book many times.
Realistic !
Thanks for sharing
“To be GOVERNED is to be watched, inspected, spied upon, directed, law-driven, numbered, regulated, enrolled, indoctrinated, preached at, controlled, checked, estimated, valued, censured, commanded, by creatures who have neither the right nor the wisdom nor the virtue to do so. To be GOVERNED is to be at every operation, at every transaction noted, registered, counted, taxed, stamped, measured, numbered, assessed, licensed, authorized, admonished, prevented, forbidden, reformed, corrected, punished. It is, under pretext of public utility, and in the name of the general interest, to be place under contribution, drilled, fleeced, exploited, monopolized, extorted from, squeezed, hoaxed, robbed; then, at the slightest resistance, the first word of complaint, to be repressed, fined, vilified, harassed, hunted down, abused, clubbed, disarmed, bound, choked, imprisoned, judged, condemned, shot, deported, sacrificed, sold, betrayed; and to crown all, mocked, ridiculed, derided, outraged, dishonored. That is government; that is its justice; that is its morality."
― Pierre-Joseph Proudhon
Oh man , that is dope. Thanks, so true.
So true. Thank you for sharing
Truer than true
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Some people fear closet monsters while the real monsters are the people themselves...God Help us all.
Yes, Machiavelli advised that upon conquering a principality, the victorious prince should: 1) ensure that the family of the principality's former rulers are entirely "extinct", 2) avoid changes to their traditions, customs and laws and 3) don't mess with their taxes!!!
That's why Trump won't win next year
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This is why all authority should be distrusted and why all politicians are charlatans.
We hurt the people we love all the time, but we are careful not to hurt those we truly fear.
Machiavelli helped me comprehend corporate and government organization structure and internal tendencies.
2:33 opportunity misspelled.
It depends very much on what your goals are. If your goals are centered on success in the world the Machiavelli has useful advise. However, you value your soul and your eternal destiny, then much of what Machiavelli advises is unwise for "what does it profit a man if he should gain the whole world but lose his immortal soul".
Exactly. If you want friends and love, Its not efficient. :)
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Always emphasise that you couldn’t eat another bite _before_ stealing the last slice of pizza
Yep Machiavelli was correct “the ends always justify the means📚” it doesn’t matter how you need to get things done more time we just do what ever is effective, energy cost effective & recourse cost effective to achieve our f*cking goals.
The real world isn’t Disney land you gotta be brutal when needed to make a statement, there’s a time & a place for Solomon’s philosophy on dealing with the events in the world when you come across them but more time now it calls for you to boss up completely ✅.
Good breakdown on this video .
Exactly,just like how my city had a homeless problem,so we rounded all the homeless people up taught to them how to stop breathing,and stuffed the bodies in storage units. The ends always justify the means. We have fewer homeless now 😀
Stalin definitely studied well. He was a master of all those tactics
Stalin is my god
Machiavelli was a genius authoritarian, but only a genius in that way. He wrote his book and targeted his philosophy at kings and leaders as a way to encourage them to have greater authority, more control, and more power. This era was an era of war and colonialism and the world was governed by corruption and fear was a speciality of the bureaucracy while the masses were uneducated and uninformed. His ideas may work in war, but in everyday life or leadership or business, we should not desire to do harm and act in a manner applicable to war.
It was written in sarcasm. What not to do.
I’ve been called Machiavellian so many times. No, I could never compare to this genius.
This Guy is For Those Who Are Real And are not afraid of telling people that they wanna rule the fkin World one day . I read his book (The Prince) as a 7-8 Yo n it's my dad who made me read it . This is real thing , this is reality n Matthew McConaughey said it right "The World Was never fair , it's not now and it'll never be" . After reading the book , I can't say I'm changed but coz if a book Can change you ? I don't think u've a stable personality but I changed my perspective abt certain things . Niccolò Machiavelli was too real to be in the world of hypocrites . Not to mention he was born in the era of that Italy which used to see wars all day n night. 🍺🍺
Number 1 was never said by Machiavelli, but is a popular interpretation of his advice. It would be useful to read The Prince, but better to read his book about Livy to put his advice into context and understand the extent of his realism.
BigHenFor You are right. 👏. He never said it.
The end justifies the means was Karl Marx from an extrapolation from another quote from Machiavelli
I think the quote itself can have a much more positive interpretation.
"If you want things to be good, you need to prepare yourself to do what must be done."
Never execute innocents nor try to make an evil utopia alright, but something as simple as self-defense from a dangerous criminal might ocasionally result in taking a life. You don't advocate for vice nor go in your way to ruin lives, but you must not be soft against people who want to destroy you one way or another.
Or as an old saying from someone I don't remember, well, can't remember the exact words but it goes like this: "Always talk about diplomacy while carrying a big stick."
My first try with the Prince I was 10 (late 60s). I have since read it in sections and in total at least a dozen times.
Currently I am rereading sections of Machiavelli’s The Prince and Marcus Aurelius’s Meditations.
Certain Knowledge, Understanding and Philosophies never go “Out of Date”.
"The Prince was an advice guide for politicians." This is a mistaken concept that has gone mainstream. The Prince was a discourse on human nature which Machiavelli understood better than anyone even modern members of the "therapeutic community."
The True teachings of The Dark side!!
Dark side is the true light side ;)
There is no dark or light side, only the grey.
I only see Red Lights.
McGyver777ATGMAIL There’s got to be, otherwise there would be no conflicts if everyone simply stayed in the grey
Albert Ortega
Light or Dark side is a point of view. Both are self serving as both have agendas.
This applies so nicely in being a drug dealer
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Hate when people say "It is better to be feared than loved" presuming the caveat is "both are desirable".. it's literally the last part of the sentence which is "but NEVER HATED".
4 weeks ago i finished the book of prince
Great book👍
I wish I had known this man 20 years ago. My life would have been different. So many people took advantage of me for being too nice.
if u consciously searched a video like this just to one day give u the upper hand against people then we’re alike
i think being loved is better then being feared not all should love you but the most because if they love you they well
sacrifice for you and trust you in every step
He also said that it is better to be feared than lived but don't be hated.
* loved
Jah Reigns *better to be feared then loved,if not both*
@@Milesco thanks man i couldn't make out what he said
I like Machiavelli's words, but my brother brought up a good point. "Why should we care about Machiavelli?" I responded by saying "couldn't you say the same about any intellectual or philosopher?" but certainly there must be a better answer out there.
Judge the message not the messenger. What machiavelli said is rationally sound no matter who said it. It's about game theory and maximizing your chances as a ruler. "2+2=4" doesn't suddenly become incorrect just because hitler says it.
True. Question everything.
Machiavelli is my superhero pick
he also made a point about how it's easier to conquer a state with an entrenched noble class, as you can sway the nobles to your side, but harder to hold onto this state, as these same nobles may turn against you.
On the flip side, it's harder to conquer a state with appointed bureaucrats and regional governors, as these bureaucrats are loyal to the incumbent regime, but once you've prevailed, and appointed your own bureaucrats, it's easier to hold onto.
It is better to be feared than to be loved . I believe in this bcz the person who loves you can say anything and di anything that can maybe hury u but the person who feared you always think 100 times before say you something
"It's better to be feared than to be loved" Life taught me this the hard way. 😭 Makaveli was right.
This man was a political genius
Tupac amaru shakur the real makeveli !
The don lives on
Machiavelli was wise, indeed. However, the ends never justify the means. This was, in my humble opinion, the greatest flaw in, "The Prince." Much of his other recommendations were sound, if a bit nasty. Reality is a nasty business, and power is something everyone wants, but is ill prepared to handle.
Why don't you think that the ends justify the means?
@@zinzorius313 Because that's what someone like Hitler would think.
So you want to win the lottery, so you cheat.
You want to be alone, so you kill everyone nearby.
In both easy examples, the good end were achieved by terrible means.
Now that's why the ends do not justify the means.
@@macvena That's not how it works, the ends have to be better than the means, such as killing 10 people to save a 100 people.
This video is a must-watch for anyone who wants to understand the dynamics at play in the workplace or in politics. The laws of power are fascinating
Truth. That's why I'm here. For me, this subject further proves people do not change. Individuals can change. But in general, humans never change. Only the technology we use changes.
It also proves, that I'm not fucking crazy, I should have been a fine prince but I'm just finding out about THIS PART of the GAME! Tupac should have elaborated on this shit FR 😠
Good short & to the point .
“The ends justify the means.” Has been the rationale behind just about every atrocity committed throughout history. It’s smart to keep your cards close to your chest but being overly Machiavellian will almost always bite you in the ass.
great , straight to the point
The main theme of Machiavelli's The Prince: self-interest. It's not a perfect world, with people being cruel, selfish, disloyal and fickle.
Not so sure. He seemed to want unity among people it's just that he didn't seem to mind 'breaking eggs' to reach that goal.
I'm a nobody, and my advice to the world is to treat others like how you want to be treated. Be fair, and don't be evil.
Abdeladim Jay Jawad Jawad That will only bring you pain. Treat others how they deserve to be treated, ( just respect ) because your own desires, values, and morals more than likely won't match with others. I learned this the very hard way. I grew up hearing that line and tried to live by it, I want to a champion street soldier dealer fighter artist that would be there to lend a hand to everybody; in work, in battle, in celebration, in finance, ... that stupid saying contradicts life in general and I wish I never learned of it. For instance, treat others how you want to be treated. I want good health, money, stability in life, family and friends I can count on when I'm down or up. you can't treat everybody to that. That will only lead to you to be taken advantage of. Trust is earned and not given. The saying could be further from the truth, Confuscious now sounds like a bastard communist. Treat all others with extreme caution, for they can take all that you have. I want to be able to get a cash loan when I need one, should I just go give out loans to others? I want to be a man of my word, should I be believing everybody's else's word. 38 years on this earth, only to realize so much of it consist of compost !
@@johntd4885 thank you John so well-spoken I wished I'd learned this when I was 38 instead of now.
@@lynnhooley7608 Thanks Lynn, (lovely name) have a safe wonderful summer and may the heavens be on your side.
Machiavelli doesn't think that the ends justifies the means.
He doesn't justify wrong doings at all. He just simply sees it as more efficient to only concern yourself with the results and outcome rather than how you go about achieving that outcome.
Sounds like
Tupac brings me here
I AM ALIVE
Why?
Tpac talks about machuvalli?
Number two is my favorite because I tell people all the time that I would rather be feared then to be loved
Eric Farrar saying it is different than living it
Its not talking about fear necessarily ...ffear breeds rebellion and mistrust...it talls about respect.
If you cant choose between live and respect,choose respect becauae its better.
I say, iam the adult.
I rather live by Jesus's teachings. Don't fear man who can just kill the body but fear God who can kill not only the body but can send the soul to hell.
@Necro Fell Jesus changed the calender of the world if that's not proof than what is?
Joe The Barean if a government decides that you were dangerous and decided to torture and kill you, you think God is scarier?
Imagine being humiliated, raped, beaten, dominated, tortured, and maimed while under the power of evil people on earth.
How is God scarier than that?
You’re not seeing the bigger picture. It’s the afterlife that counts the most. You can be humiliated tortured whatever but that’s just in this life , where pain only lasts to a certain degree, the one that is only for a while and not for eternity like the afterlife. That is why you give your faith to God so that you can be free for storming. @Hershey Cookie
*etirnity
Most comments here seem to praise Machiavelli. You need to balance that with the consideration that he was a man of his times. Power games in those days carried a lot more severe consequences if your power was undermined or taken away. You could be put to death for aligning yourself with the wrong people or belief. Machiavelli wrote his book as a kind of guide to those close to power looking to advance themselves.
Nowadays there are people living towards a Machiavellian persuasion who don't even know who Machiavelli was - politicians, bankers, lawyers. These institutions are by their very nature inclusive and extremely protective of their financial activities across the globe. Todays Machiavellians are the elitists, subtly manipulating regulations to better suit themselves.
As far as us ordinary folk are concerned, Machaiavellian teaching is mostly immaterial. Unless you happen to be extremely ambitious and looking to change the world.
So much for sarcastic lists to still be reviewed. Same ruts !
Reminds me of little finger from Game of Thrones, lil sneaky shit.
Tbe prince was the first ever full philosophical thesis I've ever read. Before that it was utube videos, wikipedia and some news and articles. 2 years later I'm still a firm follower of machiavellian theory
*Straight Shit No BullShit.*
He never said "it is BETTER to be feared than to be loved" rather he said "it is SAFER to be feared than to be loved".
Il Principe is a good read, but he let's go off all pretence in Discorso.
He was a general bad guy to be fair and the Prussian King Frederich II (a few centuries later) wrote his anti-Machiavell because of it.⬅again a good read.
That's why he said if possible both because he knows in some cases love can be used as a tool. But in most cases fear gets the job done. Most people go to work out of the "fear" of losing something
This advice is pure dark psychology coated with unoffensive words. Strange, these things are clear and I can easily see through ones bullshit now that I heard it all. It would be easy to not be disrupted with a bossy person from hereon out.
Just curious, have you heard this theory that he wrote "The Prince" as a joke?
Pro-tip: Machiavelli was a good guy.
You can keep the power
I will take heed. Thanks.
MAKAVELI THE DON, KILLUMINNATI, 7 days theory.
The Don
Makavelli was very smart man, a head of his time.
Sonny from "A Bronx Tale" brought me here
Same 😂
I loved reading this book in my poli sci courses
Tip one
Name your child "JULIUS"
Great advices
Sounds like the U.S. Government to me
Jay 'Ontario sounds like all governments.
You could live in N. Korea or Syria or Iran
Yes, apparently a lot of politicians swear by this book.
Right 😂😂
Jay 'Ontario sounds like black lies matter
Interesting article 👍
2pac aka Makaveli the don
GothicCoochie: At last someone said it!
@GothicCoochie who the fuck are u then
Tupac is overrated and his fanboys are retards
@losing dog your racist and thats shameful that you hold views like that of your fellow man. Find some love
In politics, you NEED to take the world as it is. And if you don't you will lose power, if not die; and if you aren't in power, than someone you can't trust is in power. In this sort of situation you need to sacrifice for the long term good, but a good ruler will use these tactics only when needed.
Yes sir. Slow it down. Perhaps redoing it can be viewed as a training experience. :>)
he also made a book "discourses on livy" where he praised and emphasized the importance of republics
This number 1 tip was from The Godfather part 1 Michael hit all members of the 5 families in one day rather then let it prolong
Pretty sure that was the theme in all 3 flicks..feared or loved was also in that other gangster movie
@@jameswalker2402 A Bronx Tale Sonny used that line on C.
@@sitdowndogbreath that's the1
@@jameswalker2402 I'm glad I can help this is after he saves them from riding in the car with those idiots for the firebombing he's sitting in the back
@@sitdowndogbreath was a great movie
Sun Tzu compiled similar principles in " The Art of War " and although I agree holistically with the overall gist of the strategic principles of them both, I would push back against some of them to a degree and argue that in many regards one must be pragmatic and never adopt a black or white, always this or that approach to anything meaningful or important.
One must not be swayed or influenced by the media. Kliq Don
One must not be swayed or influenced by the media. -Vincente Rey.
Little secret: Be your self, because we all naturally have powers of a ruler in our natural state which all great men talk about. These man learned from people bring their selves. But there is alot to achieving this natural state. It just doesn't come. As a kid you were fearless would talk or approach anyone and even if you wanted something you was relentless in getting it. Maybe cried ,yelled and smashed things. As an adult you should of had the same tanciaty but achieving in more rational ways. In other words you lost your zest for life. What happened? EXPERIENCE AND WHAT PEOPLE MADE BELIEVE BEAT YOU DOWN(this at times happens to you subconsciously) To reach this state again takes some inner searching and acceptance of your reality. I'm not claiming to be a guru nor I'm a "powerful" figure. But,once you learn self mastery you might or might not become a powerful figure,but I can gauretee you will "feel" like the most powerful figure walking. This will be your subjective feeling with no fakery to it. It's super confidence with out being aroggant. This takes some work,but it's well worth it. Email me if interested.
In other words, one should strive to be a sociopath 🙄
True
You say Sociopath as if it was a BAD thing.
It pays to learn from all kinds of people in the world.
Being a sociopath is the best thing ever.. Trust me
@@NihilisticCannibal 😂🤣😂
Great lessons from Niccolo Machiavelli
So this is the lesser known version of the art of war.
Who else knows he was a great Italian philosophy, actor and a writer?
@Albert Einstein lmao
it would have helped if he used Machiavelli's tips and related it to modern everyday life
s.s cringe Only you can prevent Forrest fires🔥🦍 #Harambe
10.) Don't rely solely on those who have no personal attachment to you
9.) Imitate the greats and those who were successful
8.) Do not help those who might intend to do you harm later
7.) Integrate, don't try to force change.
6.) pretty straight forward and applicable, no matter the times
5.) be pragmatic, not idealistic. what works, works. what doesn't work, doesn't. work with what you are given. not what you want
4.) try to align yourself with as much people as possible, but if you need to choose, ally with the most powerful (in his case, it's the common people)
3.) Do what you must, as effectively as you can, but keep the unsavory deeds secret.
2.) again also applicable no matter the time.
1.) only the goal truly matters.
You can't abstract ? Lol
Dan Shilkett amen 👏
It was interesting. A great insight into sociopathy.