Well, for example if you did have reliability ratings, I think that might be worth a bit more. The fact that the tundra needs a key in the ignition, I would say is less important than something like styling and practicality, which might be in between the other two.Thanks, Rufus
Why is HP counted higher than Torque? Considering the weight of the trucks plus what the intended use for towing, hauling and off-roading where torque is more important.
Im a certified tech and been for over 30 years. I work in an independent shop and work on all brands of vehichles. We have several customers with tundras and dozens of customers with f150s... The toyotas most common problems are the bushings that mount the rack and pinion. They get old and brittle and cause a bump steer issue and some movement in the steering wheel when you hit bumps. Alternators and radiators are the next most common problem I see with the tundras I maintain. F 150s most common problems are everything.... I have never had a tundra blow spark plugs out of the head, bust spark plugs off in the head, have fuel drivers fall right the fuck off the truck, have 3rd brake light water leaks from 04-2015 , have vacuum hubs that fail all the time, wires so brittle they are all broken at the door hinges to no windows open, GEM's that constently fail causing security no start problems, front end geomotry that destroy tires no matter where you set the camber ane toe, $300 battery cables that corrode inside out and fail all the time, transmission lines that need to be replaced 99% of the time you swap a radiator, oil filters you can't even get a wrench or hand on, exhaust manifold bolts that constantly break off in the heads....Every single eco boost pile of shit I work on has coolant pouring out the turbos , thats why ford puts that nice fabric skid plate ( diaper) on all there new products, it keeps the owner from realizing they bought a leaking piece of shit.... Toyota is not near as reliable as they were in the 80s-90s but they are a hell of a lot better than ford garbage. Ford does ONE thing well....They have mastered the art of selling an inferior product to brand loyal idiots who don't know what a quality product is...Do you know why the f150 is the best selling truck? Because they fail and you have to buy a new one....( and they offer huge fleet bonuses to get rid of their junk, dodge and GM don't have to ).. They fail to the point that it is not economicaly wise to repair the pile o shit much sooner than any other truck in America....
Iihs crash safety test have proven ford has what it takes to keep people safe.. so I think this is a bias opinion also the Ford you seen may have been pushed through thier limits cause more people buy ford then Toyota of course your going to see alot of ford's being serviced cause the fact It's the drivers fault of not taking care of it.. God forbid the manufacturer has something to do with it but maybe the fact you see ford in your shop more is because it does sell well cuase people trust it more then the tundra cause the tundra can't pull half as good as a ford does its why people are scared to pull either a Toyota.. I grantee if you pull about 10,000 to 12,000 with a Toyota the Toyota will not survive.. the Ford does pull that much now in the 2018 truck and can do it with no hassle, I like the tundra but I highly doubt it would survive the towing and payload challenge.
Michael Mullen crash safety rating?... That's what's important to you? I guess that's another difference between Toyota owners and Ford owners. Also the OP describes all the issues not only by volume but also by type of issues and the case in point is there are more issues with the F150.
You're going to get hate for stating the truth. Toyota is and WANT to be known for being reliable. That's why they are the biggest manufacturer who are still not putting turbos in their car (in NA at least), wait a long time to introduce android carplay / apple, that's also why they hold on to older tech for a longer time - and it does pay off. I'd rather have a 10 years old toyota than a ford/gm/dodge anyday.
OK. At the end of the day I'm going with the Tundra. I've been down the ford road and it always went to the repair shop. Resale and dependability is what you get with the Tundra.
So did I. Hands down Tundra is the most reliable truck!! hence million mile trucks they have. And HOLD their value. Fords do have more technologies than Tundra... but thats why they're always in the shop!!! Don't believe me... just take a ride to your local Ford dealership and have a look of how many they have to fix!! Then goto Toyota... yep, not many to none!!! Just performing routine maintenance. I've purchased the 1794 model.
@@alexpingo1999 my dad went through 3 f150s in 6 years all from different dealers (the first two had to to be lemon lawed). Im still driving his 08 tundra at 300k miles and it still drives better than his 2018 f150.
Dawson Field I guess it was just that truck? Idk. Each one will always be different. Just because the ONE you drive is bad doesn’t mean every single one is. Not trying to argue. I just think that’s how people get their opinions based off of
@Jeremy Byrd that dealership literally does not exist, a quick google search would tell you that too, and if your such a suck ass for your patriotism about your fords, go work for ford
And you’ll have a rusted out ugly truck but it will last longer... and it will break down. I’m so tired of hearing that garbage about they never break down.
2009 F150 FX 4. Driven with total miles of 98,000 mi. Transmission replaced at 75k and a host of other problems. A 2007 Tundra from Lafayette, LA that rolled over 1 million mi in 2016 only 1 issue that manifested at 750k mi. Toyota retrieved the truck from the owner in exchange for a brand new Tundra. Don't believe me? Google it yourself. I'm in the process of trading my F150 for a 2018 Tundra. Say what you must but the proof is in the puding.
I had a 2007 fx4. Beautiful truck. Transmission went at 100,000 km. Engine timing chain guide broke around the same time. Miss firing and the amount of money to fix it was not worth it. Junk.
Thank you for that. My father in law was telling me over and over to go with an F150 when looking for a truck. I'm buying a Tundra with all my father in law said lol now I see this comment and I'm glad I made the right choice just bought a 2018 tundra
Went with a 2016 Silverado over a 2016 Tundra 3.5 years ago, and it was a mistake. I was dazzled by the fancier truck, which is the case here with the F-150 vs the Tundra. Had transmission problems right off the bat, and I hated it so much that I traded it for another Silverado (2018) with an upgraded engine and transmission (6.2L/8Speed), which was a HUGE improvement. However, 8400 miles later the transmission started leaking all over my garage floor, ended up spending 2 weeks in the shop to get fixed. That's when I was over the fancy bullshit features these trucks have over the Tundra, and started paying attention to what really mattered most, well built and extremely RELIABLE drive trains. That's what the Tundra has over all of these other truck brands. So that's what mattered most to me this time around. Made a smart decision this time and Traded the 2018 Silverado in for a 2020 Tundra. Didn't even bother looking at Ram and F-150. The price differences between them are not justified, and this is just based on the simple fact that their drive trains are inherently INFERIOR to that of the Toyota Tundra. You can't polish a turd with glam and glitter and expect to get away with it long term. Tundra for the win!
dark matter for a very long time buddy . They are coming out with even a boxer engine in 2019 . 150s are optional for diesel now , and ford makes a 6.2, way better than the 5.7... by the way the new boxer engine will get 37 Mpg.. if you get a 150 diesel it will have 45 mpg. Just do the switch to ford, join us 😈
The engine may last, but the shit supporting the engine doesn't. I had BOTH turbos go out by 65k miles. I dont tow, and i sure as hell dont abuse my truck but nevertheless, 2 turbos. one was covered under warranty, the other cost me 5k .
@yea bouy I had the 5.0 coyote engine in a f150 as well. Strong engine for sure, but not as level as the 5.7. The 5.0' power band kicks in around 35 mph, the 5.7 is consistent throughout. The 5.0 coyote is probably fords best gas engine in 20 years.
@yea bouy you're looking at a drag race perspective. I'm saying the 5.7 is the most level powered throughout acceleration out of all of them. That 700lbs DOES make a huge difference though. Cant take that from Ford, great design. Again, the coyote 5.0 is the best engine but it absolutely has a power band you feel, where the 5.7 you cant. Its flat.
@@KevinWilliams19723 the original Tundra was not good, but the newer ones are very reliable. Meanwhile you have these ecoboosts driving around throwing timing chains and the 5.0 burning oil. Fords are overpriced as well.
Andy's Shop not meaning to bump an old thread but respectfully Toyota v8 doesn’t have enough years under its belt to be considered reliable. They do have a few years of rust. Few of recalls because of sticking gas pedals. So I don’t think you can realistically say more reliable.
Michael Mullen for towing I'd get a cummins ram 3500...we use one for work to pull our mini excavator and cat 299 skid steer (not at same time ofcourse)..it's nice..but I was talking as an everyday reliability stand point..
A good friend of mine sold her f350 powerstroke for a tundra to haul her goose horse trailer. lol she loves it and she loves that the base model looks better the ford base model
Private Number I’ve owned probably eight or nine new Fords down through the years and I have never needed a warranty repair. And back when we were poor we drove our Fords to 300,000 miles before we traded them and never had an engine or transmission give out. Only dealt with a couple of minor issues.
You’d be surprised, but some used F150s cost more than new ones with the discounts. It’s actually irritating to me personally, but it gives more inventive to buy new. Which is probably why F150s are the best selling trucks
Reliably get shit mpg(9 mpg, 6 mpg when towing lol) reliably rust into pieces in 3-4 years, reliably tow less, and reliably are the king of suck. Toyota trucks are a JOKE. Your Fords actually do real work, those Yotas are yuppy "look i'm a man that reads consumer reports" trucks. Nobody buys them to actually haul anything.
Tundra will last longer and less expense. Design is not the issue, quality and reliability is matter the most. The more they upgrade the more expense it will cost to repair.
Do your research ford transmission sucks! Toyota last forever... ive had both and ford really disappointed me i drive a tundra right now and its way better!
Tundra, Cheaper, More reliable, Lasts longer, has the most percentage of parts made in America. Ford, Expensive, Always in the shop, Isn't really American these days
Ironically enough I'm trading my 2011 F-150 for a Tundra tomorrow. I only have 80k miles on it and I'm the type of person that likes to drive em' till they drop. This Ford has been a heaping pile o' sheet. It burns oil, water collects in the passenger door every time it rains, transmission slips and now the blower on my AC is making a tapping noise, so I've had it. I'll take reliability over anything else that Ford says they offer.
For everyone here who says one truck is better then the other you have to realise it's not a luxury vehicle ! It's a truck made for working and if I'm pulling a boat on a muddy hill down to a public access I'm deffenitly choosing a v8 over a ford mustang engine in a truck that's like a skinny guy carrying a fat chick pistons going to go out for sure oil burning turbo compartments turbo oil leaks it's going to be a higher maintenance in the long term for the legendary f150 while the 5.7 tundra is straight forward with a basic v8 for me I don't have time for turbo maintenance and the expensive price to maintain a dual turbo...
Your stament is confusing. "I'm choosing a V8 over a Ford mustang engine"..... What kind of engine do you think is in the mustang gt's? And if it's not a gt, is it even a mustang?
You also have the option to drop down a couple trim levels on the F-150 to the Lariat package, which has all the essentials to include leather seats. F-150 Lariat is closer to this Tundra's price point.
It's not 12k more when comparing apples to apples. Drop down a model and choose the options that match up the best with the Tundra and you're very close in price with a vehicle that has a much more recent update. Just opting for the naturally aspirated V8 which is more comparable to the Tundra V8 will take a major chunk off the F150 price tag. I have no idea why the reviewer chose the trim levels and engine the way he did. It's almost like he was trying to give the Tundra a head start.
I would say they forgot some benefits of the tundra though. Things like the 10.5 rear end and 9.5 front diff with 4.30s in them. And yes they are both vented disc but the tundra has 13.9" brakes and the front is fixed 4 piston calipers. Also it uses a key but the tundra has bump start, you just bump the key to start it and it turns over on its own
Mike Albert yeah, I didn't get that handicap myself. Why not 1 point per $500 or 1 point per $5,000 or just 1 point period for being cheaper. Of course the Ford will be substantially more, they spend substantially more on ingenuity. 12 point handicap to keep it close I guess.
Moxon yeah 19 year's ago to prove my point, not new innovation. 19 years from now they'll say remember when Ford was the only full size truck manufacturer with aluminum bodies.
So the Tundra is a 11 year truck technology that is still ticking and only came in 3 points short of a new F150? What is there to brag about for the Ford? How about next time you compare V8 to V8. Also the 1794 Tundra comes with different interior color other than black. How can any true truck guy be happy about turbo charge in a truck? What are you doing, racing your truck on the streets?
"How can any true truck guy be happy about turbo charge in a truck?" It's called 470 ft/lbs of torque. What are you doing with your truck? Hauling groceries?
you do realize they gave them an extra 11 points for the cost right? should have been one point for a win in that category.. everything else goes to ford..
And something else no one really mentions is the tundra is very overbuilt. Sure it’s dated as fuck and is basically 10 years old going on 11 but it’s built like a 3/4 ton more than the 1/2 ton class it’s in. Parts are built to last and it can tow above the “rating” also.
PWDT4R It's a beast. Tows my 10k boat better than my 07 Cummins did and pulled a 21k 5th wheel no problem. Ford has made great strides, but it seems like a lot of unnecessary bells and whistles.
There's nothing that comes close to making it three quarter ton. It has a dismal 1600 lb payload and a motor comparable to most half tons. Engine is reliable and will run a long, long time with good maintenance but rest of truck will have disintegrated with rust by 80-100k.
Not including the Tundras reliability is a major goof. Mile for mile the Tundra (regardless of JD Powers outdated reviews) would easily give it the lead.
MP5 just wait until you trade in that Ford down the road, than you will regret buying a Ford, no full size truck has a higher resale value than a Tundra!
I disagree totally. I owned a 07 Limited and now own a 16 Ford. Yes you could feel the weight difference but sync 3 keeps disconnecting from my phone mid song. With my towing package with the v8 it is terrible compared to how the Tundra pulled. My Ford feels literally gutless. One thing she didn't mention, but if you aren't a truck person you wouldn't notice is the truck bed. The Ford yes is sprayed but it is in sections. There are 1/8" cracks between these sections like around the wheel well and dust will fill it up. I had to use caulking to fill it. Also the lift gate doesn't seal either. Its frickin awful. Now talking about the Ecoboost. My dealer said not to buy those motors because of reliability issues. You look at any "lemon" books on reliability and Tundra is top end. Resale value I can attest to as well. I purchased my 07 Tundra for 31995 Canadian in 2011 and in 2016 got 22900 for it. Resale value is also where you make money. I am 99% sure I'll be going back to Toyota even though my Ford dealer is great. I'm just hoping the new design comes out before that and they put the 5.0 V8 from the Lexus RCF in it revamped for truck use and a new tranny with more speeds.
unnervingfalcon the new ford truck has a towing capacity of 12,000 thousand and payload of 5,000 I think that's great now Btw you prolly had a bad run but in crash safety test iihs puts ford on the top of the list.
Michael Mullen I own the trailer. Not just one bad run. Plus 12,000 is only with certain configurations. That would be with the 3.73 rear end not the 3.55 with the towing package.
This is one of the best black and white reviews I have ever seen. I am a Toyota guy thru and thru but it is really good to know what the tundra doesn’t have. Toyota does really need to do some upgrading.
In the end it all comes down to who do you trust more Toyota or Ford? If you had good experience with the Ford why would you buy a Toyota? I get that. Yes, Fords have a lot more features, and bells and whistles that you cannot get on Tundra. Ford wins hands down in that category. If you value your money you will choose a Toyota. That is what I did despite acknowledging that Ford had better acceleration, better features, better looks I still bought a Toyota. I just don't trust Ford. Look at the history of recalls and you will understand what I am talking about here. If you like spending your time at the dealership while they do the next recall on your truck then by all means get a Ford.
Car confections, you screwed up the engine part, the 3.5 ecoboost in the 2018 F-150 has 470 Lb ft of torque, not 420, so it has A LOT more torque than the Tundra, plus the torque is more usable, peak torque for the 3.5 comes at 3500 rpm, which is at a lower rpm than on the tundra's V8, the ford should have gotten the point for the engine, the ecoboost is all around, a better engine.
Ford Ecoboost engine = vapor lock, limp mode. Look it up, Ford has a class action lawsuit on this issue right now since so many owners are having this major issue. Crap engine.
MrSharpshooter06 There is reason why Toyota has put a V8 in their big trucks not on their sedans. Because Trucks take more abuse than a sedan and smaller engine will crack way before the bigger V8. Ask your local mechanics about the trouble with Ecoboost engines and their turbos.
848 dislikes by the ford buyers who realized the 6 banger doesn't last as long as the tundra motor. Turbos are more expensive to maintain and they wear out the motor much faster....especially. 6 banger pushing all that weight. And lets not even discuss the transmission problems and costs to repair it vs the Tundras legendary near bullet proof transmissions. Toyota is the far better choice here. Unless you like more stuff to break.. Then go for the ford.
My f150 has had a plethora of problems and I'm only at 82k miles. Some problems were stretched timing chain, ac compressor, oil pan gasket, water pump, 1 bad turbo, head gaskets leaking and more. I will be trading it in for a tundra or 4runner as soon as i get it back from the shop.
My grandpa bought a 2018 Ford F-150 XLT with the 3.3L engine in blue jeans color for $42,000 doesn’t have the big screen or the fancy stuff but it has everything else and has tinted windows, tonnel cover, and step guards were added as dealer accessories. The truck has auto start, stop feature.
I just bought my new truck 3 days ago. I was stuck between the GMC Denali , tundra, and F150 - went with a race red 2018 F150 lariat with just about every option and love it. The F150’s technology is what ended up being the deciding factor, the front camera, 360 view, and back up camera makes navigating tight parking lots a lot easier. I love that my F150 can park itself , but I don’t see me actually utilizing that option, but I can’t wait to get my boat’s trailer programmed into the truck so I can try out the backup trailer controls 👍🏼. As far as pricing goes I picked up my F150 for $61k out the door (had a MSRP of $63k and the Toyotas I had liked would have been in the same neighborhood. Happy New Years and hope everyone has an awesome 2018 🎉
Bernie I completely agree with you man I own a tundra good drive train and all but my god the interior is shit cheap plastic, the radio shuts off all the time. It’s way outdated
Here's my list of all the things I care about in a truck. 1.) Reliable/affordable 2.) Will it haul my kayak safely 3.) Ac 4.) V-8 I don't need heated tailgates, or muffler lights just give me a reliable, affordable truck.
Ford was the first to make pickups into production and kept improving over those years. And of course you see them everywhere they're the #1 selling truck for a reason.
When I was looking for a used tundra there was dozens of semi new Ford in every dealership they where practically giving them away even with lifts and decked out...hell to the no...lol
You failed to mention that the Tundra is the only pick-up truck with 4 piston calipers on the largest front discs anywhere. You also missed the fact that the Tundra Dbl Cab with 6.5' box has a much larger back seat than the Ford given my need for a 19.5' truck to fit in my 19.6' garage. Even trying to forget the 10K difference we couldn't ignore the tiny legroom in the back seat when using the 6.5' box that we also need. I liked the luxury, quiet and great ride of the Ford and was willing to give it a try but just couldn't make it fit our needs and our garage.
thank you its a nice video I have a 2018 SR5 Toyota tundra and all I can say Iam a happy camper , its conffortable and I i love it , so i really think F-150 its good too..
08 Tundra 229,000 Replaced Battery and Alternater, Brake Rotors and Pads twice, just replaced 2 fuel ratio sensors and both O2 sensors, 2 cats . Wouldn't Own any Thing Else . One Hell of a Truck . 20 mpg highway . 13 pulling a Load . If it didn't have a speed limiter it Will Out Run Damn near all Comers .
Fair enough review. You always get more features with Fords and the new one looks really nice. Toyota's tend to be more utilitarian but reliable as an anvil and underrates their towing and carrying capacity. I have had trucks with a much higher capacity on paper but out on the highway the Tundra felt more in control and the six-speed with the thumb shifter makes the downhills steady and predictable.
Ford has aluminum body and weighs less is which why it can town more. That's also why I can rip a fender off that truck with my hands. Who makes a truck out of brittle materials
I like the F150 more but I do wish Toyota offers more updated features and powertrain. Yeah I know it's tried and true but it doesn't hurt for Toyota to sometimes take a leap forward and create something new that will leave people in awe. Like the first time Toyota introduced the second generation Tundra back in 2007. Now that was something to behold.
I have owned both the Tundra '17 and Ford F-150 EcoBust '12 the comparisons are not even close. Tundra outperforms F-150 in every way with the exception of MPGs and towing weight Bottom line Ford was always in the shop the Tundra was not.
Dustin Hart He's right, ford isn't as reliable as Toyota but they're close these days. As someone who sells cars, I would def recommend a ford, toyota or kia over a Nissan or honda.
Puff the Magic Dragon I disagree. I think Toyota, Honda, and Subaru are still the strongest in the pack. I mean Hyundai/Kia, Ford, Chevy, Etc., are strong suits but when it comes to reliability I think those 3 will take the lead. Now I can say if Honda doesn’t stop making their cars like they have been then they will decrease on my personal list.
I know several people that have had huge huge problems with ford trucks. I do not have time to type it all out and i am NOT on a side. But i have to say after seeing a friend and others go through nightmares with ford. My old employer purchased a ford truck for almost 50K Canadian. just after the warranty was up it broke down. Brought into he dealership, they had his bill at almost 10k and the truck was still not running. They gave him a deal on a new truck, he did not want to buy another ford but had no option at that point. Not to mention the break downs under warranty.
So much ignorance on the internet. Toyotas reliability is so overrated and over-hyped it ridiculous. Toyota rides a reputation. Are Toyotas generally good and reliable vehicles? Sure, but so are Fords, GM's, and most other major automakers. In fact some of the worst modern day vehicles reliability issues I've seen were from Toyotas. I've known 2 different people with the Lexus version of a Camry have their motors go out in them. Both were less than 10 years old and one was probably about 5 years old and both were sub 120K miles cars one was barely over 100K on the odometer. Then I had a boss who bought a brand new 08 Tundra 2WD truck and took it back to the dealer 3 times in the first year because it kept having wheel bearings go bad. Also I call BS on Fords reliability getting better in the last 6-7 years. If anything it's gotten worse. Not mechanically but these newer vehicles are so advanced that their is way more that can go wrong. If you take a 15-20 year old F150 or Silverado/Sierra, and you keep up with their maintenance, and don't overly abuse them then 300K miles should be easy. My modded 03 Lightning with 180K that I beat on more than most people beat on their cars runs as good today as it did at 60K. Only real issue other than basic maintenance like brakes and oil changes is the front seal on my rearend developed a slow leak but it didn't cripple the truck it just left a little gear oil on my garage floor. Easily fix in my garage in just a couple hours. I've known several 5.3L guys with over 250K that were modded and beat on hard that ran great with no real problems. The overall build quality might not be as nice as the newer truck but the reliability of the older 1/2 tons is excellent for the most part if they've been kept up with.
JROC734 I agree with your 2nd part of your comment but I kind of have to disagree with your first part. I know of many Toyotas out there that have more than 250k+ Miles on them. Most of which are 4runners. I’ve heard of a Corolla (might’ve been) that hit over 600k Miles, a 4Runner hitting 500k, but everyone doesn’t have the same luck but what I’ve heard a lot of Toyota owners have had good luck, but to each their own. If you take good care of it it’ll take good care of you.
JROC734 what are you talking about? Toyota reliability overhyped, have you owned one. My family and extended family mainly drive Toyota vehicles and all of them are far more reliable than the domestic stuff. I have a vetranerian with nearly 400k miles on a first gen tundra and it runs and drives like a new rig and has only recently needed an alternator. How's that for reliable. My 07 camry is the same way 245k and not a single problem, haven't even replaced the battery yet.
Jess Roberts exactly what I said. Overrated and overhyped. Are Toyota's generally reliable? Yes, but so are most modern vehicles and particularly full-sized trucks built during the Gen1 Tundras era are very reliable vehicles if you keep up with them. Yes a Gen1 Tundra is usually a very reliable truck and IMO one of the best vehicles Toyota has ever build. Definitely more reliable than the Gen2 Tundra and I get this from some of my old Toyota truck fanboy friends. Again I've know 2 different people with the Lexus equivalent to the Camry that had the motor shit the bed on them without much over 100K on their odometers. Is that surprising? Yes, as Camry's tend to be well built and reliable cars. I've dated umpteen girls who drove Camry's along with know other people with them and they seemed like good running cars, but what can I say it happen and having a motor with less than 130K let go is shitty. Hell I had a 95 Integra GSR lose a cylinder at 124K. Weren't Hondas supposed to be the most reliable cars is the 90's? That car was stock other than a CAI and a header. I've know several people with Foxbodies with over 200K on the factory 302, and one with over 300K on the original drive. Yes the chassis's were worn and loose being that they are build on a platform who's wheelbase has been know to shrink from years of braking but they ran fine. I knew a woman who had bought a brand new GEN3 Camaro and drove it for several years and the motor went out at 43K. I was a kid and I know it was a V8 car. Not sure is it has a 305 or a 350 but I think it was a Z/28. Anyway a car just a few years old had the motor let go at around 43K. That's crappy reliability but then come to find out she never once had the oil changed in the car and the motor lasted 43K on the original oil before the motor let go. Toyota people are like Kubota people. They think their shit is the bomb, and that everyone elses shit stinks. Kubota people act like any sub-100 hp tractor isn't on a Kubotas level. BS, I've personnally had better luck with my American cars than my Japanese cars even though my 93 Civic was a great cars that never gave me any trouble. There's not just one brand that shines all the time. They generally compete pretty well against one another. You can give me a list of issues that other manufacturers have had and I can give you a list of issues that Toyotas have had. Basically by buying Japanese cars and tractors among other things you're helping build their economy while not really helping ours. I don't give a fuck is you buy up some of OUR land in the southeast to get cheap labor and built some plant to help employ a few thousand Americans so you can claim that it's American made while the American owned companies aren't made here. They come here and build niche vehicles that sell in no other market but NA, and return most of their profits to Japan but we're not allowed to buy land in Japan and build or sell other products over there in their market because that would take away from their profits. Well fuck them. And if you look up how much our government taxes our local businesses on the dollor it's no surprise many are built in foreign countries that don't tax then nearly as hard, but the American companies still bring their profits back here for the most part.
I have an 2010 and 2014 tundra and they never let me down. They are the most reliable truck I own, my brothers on the other hand have ford and Chevrolet and I always have to repair their trucks. So if anyone looking for a good reliable truck, get a tundra. You won’t regret.
As you said right at the beginning, the Tundra is an 11 year old truck and the F-150 is 3 years old with a substantial refresh for this year . That's more than enough for me. There's a reason Ford outsells all others and trucks like Tundra barely figure in the truck battle. One other thing to consider is the Tundra model reviewed is the top offering while the F-150 model is 2nd from the top.
Great comparison, both are great trucks. I’ve owned 3 Tundras since 2007. My current truck is a 2015 TRD Pro. I get 11.9 mpg with my Nitto Trail Grappler tire upgrade. The nav system is outdated and I have to push the “tow/haul” button to get a responsive feel through the throttle. With that being said, Ford has gotten way too proud of their trucks in pricing. The reason Ford is the best selling truck in North America is due to fleet sales. Look at any big city parks and recreation or street department vehicles. All Ford trucks... Ford has chosen to pass those government and municipal discounts on by raising prices for the public.
In a nutshell: F150 is more comfy and luxurious than Tundra is. Cool! The environment where you have to spend your time waiting for the tow-truck is important. Which is pretty nice from Ford... I think.
Reliability is a no brainer. The Tundra wins that hands down. The cost to replace the Fords turbos is about $4000 PER turbo. Which they will fail if you do any, yes any towing. Those tiny little turbos are not meant to spool under load for an extended amount of time. The reason you don't hear jokes about Toyotas breaking down, is because toyotas dont. break. down.
A point was awarded for each $1k difference in price at the start. I think you should have done the same thing for towing capacity, after all a truck is supposed to tow and pull stuff first and foremost. So add 2 more to fords score. Just my opinion.
Gas would cost about the same in the ford, no? The tundra takes regular fuel, while turbo engines typically require premium, which is substantially different in price (when filling up 36 gallons). The Ford has a few things more that I like, such as the sunroof, but Toyota is simple and won’t break. I’ve had a 2003 Tacoma since it had 10 miles, and it has been my daily driver for almost 20 years. I’ll be upgrading for a tundra platinum soon :)
You can always get cheaper versions like an XLT with less gadgets and a 5.0 Coyote V8. You can keep the 10 speed. The Toyota is so outdated I'd rather get a used one and save about half the money. I'd be getting the same truck compared to the new one, LOL
The 2018 5.0 (Coyote) F150 is a monster. Over 340 rwhp stock, 400 rwhp with 93 octane tune and CAI. It makes the Toyota 5.7 feel weak, gets much better mileage, and will last as long as any Toyota V8 ever thought about like all Ford Modular engines besides the 4.6/5.4 3-valve variation. www.millionmilevan.com
Good basic side by side comparison without getting into the power, performance and drivetrain. As a buyer, this actually allowed me to narrow my vehicle search in what I want in a vehicle. Thank you.
You're ranking system is delusional. 5 years later the better truck is the Tundra. It is better in resale, reliability and build quality. Serially flawed process here.
ac c Ford has been known to make great trucks through out all the years. So has Toyota. Ford and Toyota makes the best trucks all around. And this is coming from a Mopar man.
ac c yes I agree. I have a buddy with a 2012 rock warrior, it's hands down better truck than my 2015 silverado. The only thing my silverado is slightly quieter and maybe better fuel milage. Towing and payload are the same. But my chevy has been in the shop 3 times now for repairs and his Toyota never has with 130k miles.
Show us the facts that back up this statement. Where can we see and/ or read of the facts you have stated. I need to make a decision soon regarding what I'm buying.
A person named Sam There’s other factors other than horsepower my friend. Not saying the F-150 isn’t quicker, but saying just don’t base acceleration off of pure hp.
Shaun W. its an electronic device that taps into your gas pedal and it bypasses the lag when you stomp on the gas. like all the older vehicles have a cable going from your gas pedal to your throttle body so its precise when you push on the gas the pedal commander does the same thing just in an electronic form.
Toyota dependability is subjective. I have a 1999 Landcruiser with the 4.7L V8 with 155K. Dependable yes - perfect no. It is on its third starter - which for some dumb ass reason is between the engine and the firewall which means $ 600.00 labor to get the damn thing out. So that is $900.00 there x 2. And a throttle body for a cool $1K installed. I never expected those types of repairs on a Toyota. And this was built in Japan - not Texas.
I realize this video comparison is over a year old, but just stumbled upon it and liked its presentation so much I subscribed. My personal experience is I bought a new ford 150 in 1990 and at 32,000mi the engine rear seal leaked and it went into the shop to drop the tranny to replace the engine seal. Was told they had a bad batch of seals that model year. One of the dual fuel tanks started leaking at 36,000 mi had to replace it. Took it on vacation one summer and the power steering failed, and got dinged $840 to repair it which hurt me financially and interrupted my vacation for a couple days sitting in the shop out of state. Around 50,000 mi the two tone paint started flaking off in big chunks, and was told they had a defective primer in Detroit for that model year. Truck was repainted, and was in the shop for another week. Couple years later a delivery truck rear ended it on the expressway and bent the frame totaling this F150. Best thing that could have happened! In 2008 I bought a new Tundra 4x4 double cab, SR5, TRD, 5.7L V8 for 32,000. Drove it to 109,000 mi 6yrs later got 15,000 for it in trade on a 2014 Tundra, same model. Currently have 62,000 on it now and both Tundras have only required routine oil changes, and general maintenance such as one new set of tires at 64,000mi, and one set of brake pads at 94,000 mi! I live in the north east snow country, and love that my Tundras always get the job done in all weather conditions, on road, off road, and no surprise repairs ever!
Ford hands down wins in this comparison.... As well, the new for 2017 (2018 as well) 2nd Gen ecoboost puts out 470ftlbs or torque not 420 like stated in his video....
Ford could never win. Why the Ford is 10k more and will fall apart in about three years. I know because I owned plenty of Fords. Sure the Tundra may not have all the features as the Ford does but its 10k less. When I'm paying 40 to 50k for a truck it better last me a Long time before I have to start doing repairs or replace it and thats were Ford fails miserably. Good luck with your Ford.
ANTI ANTIFA because being the supposedly "Best selling truck in America" he thought that it was from the build quality. But no, it's because the trucks keep on breaking down, and people need to keep buying new trucks.
Time2 DumpTrump the Toyota Tundra is more American than any Ford truck on the road. Idk if I want a Tundra or a F-150. Tundra has the reliability, but it’s a little outdated, and F-150 is less reliable, but more up to date. Not really worried about resale, because I’ll be keeping whatever I get for at least 10 years. That said, idk anyone that’s had an issue with the 5.0 F-150 and certainly not anyone that has had a problem with their Tundra, and I know people that have ragged the shit out of them and they still rolling, strong as ever.
I had my tundra since 08. Crazy reliability. My only problem with it . I need some that will tow at least 14 thousand pounds. I'm kinda screwed. Nothing conpears in reliability. Any suggestions?
Steve Smith I never said it was worth it he stated these two were the best the companies have to offer and he said it was missing it. I simply corrected him since others wouldnt think it wasn't an option.
Both truck are very nice truck, but I would never buy the f150. I have the 2011 tundra and not having any problems with it. People that I know drove the f150 and it give them nothing but in and out of the shop.
I just recently compared both. And I must say I am not brand loyal since I came from a Ram with issues. But you need to 1. Drive both- there is no comparison! The F-150 blows it away! 2. Shut the doors on the Tundra and it sounds like a Tin can. 3. Towing -Ford again wins. 4. Longevity- As far as longevity goes there are far...far greater number of older Ford trucks on the road then Tundras. If Ford was selling Junk no marketing in the world would be able to cover it up now that we have the internet. I chose an F-150 with the proven 5.0 V8 and I'll put that up against any Tundra. Oh and to really put this to bed the F-150 will never rust try that one Tundra! In all honesty Tundra is a great Truck but in my personal opinion, the F-150 is much better.
Tom E of course there are a lot more order Ford's out there then tundras they out sell them 80 to 1 good choice on that 5.0 much better & will way out last any ehcoboost.
the ecoboost will turn out to be the more reliable motor because when towing it doesn't have to scream at 4500 rpm.. it can cruise at a nice 2500 rpm.. low end torque is unmatched at 3000rpm the 5.0 is at 175 lbft of torque, the 3.5 ecoboost is at 415 and the little 2.7 is at 370. the ecoboost is the next best thing to a diesel for towing.. the ability to tow at lower rpms and not stress out the motor is whats going to make it last. if you aren't towing, than I guess it doesn't really matter what motor you go with..
Darin, I tow almost every day with this truck @ around 4500 pounds and the truck barely knows its there. My buddy pulled my trailer and the turbos have to kick in to move it. Yes the 3.5 engine with the EcoBoost can out tow my 5.0 by a little. But I would hate to replace those Turbos! I will take a naturally aspirated engine anyday over a boosted engine. The 5.0 engine has been around since the 1960's so it's been proven. .
Tom E. 11 vs 70 years. 70 years and Ford still can’t make a reliable vehicle. I have worked for both companies. Of course there are more F-150s on the road (or in the shop). But I’ve never seen a Ford with over 250k that drove nice or didn’t have half the truck rebuilt to get there. I saw Toyota’s with 600k+ all original on a daily basis that drove better then a band new Ford. When I worked at Ford, the entire underside of the trucks were all rust before they even made it off the delivery truck. Toyota has fixed their issues while Ford continues to ignore 90% of theirs. No brand is perfect, however Toyota is without a doubt worth every penny and will still run strong in 20 years. My 1980 Toyota pick up still passes smog and drives like new.
There are Fords still on the road going back to the 40s, millions of them! Show me those classic Yotas, yeah thought so, there arent any. Cause they rust apart before they reach 10 years of age.
Still driving my 2007 Tundra. 112k miles and zero issues. My last Ford truck was a maintenance nightmare costing me thousands out of pocket after the warranty expired. Toyota for the win!
LJOHNS123 still driving my 14 f150 5.0 with 105k. Still brand new. And mine are hard miles. What's your point? I'd sure hope your truck would be running well, since you've only put 11k a year on it. Might as well have been a golf cart.
Bought the F-150 once had to take it back 2 years later, Very PRETTY truck and has nice accessories no doubt but it is not a purse so who cares how pretty it is, the soft plastic and push to start isnt going to tow anything. Tundra to me has more of a RIGID look lifted it 8" threw a rigid industries grille looks amazing and does a hell of a job towing anything i need it to.
So after the ridiculous handicap you gave the Tundra, the F150 still came out on top. By the way, yes the 2018 haven't been tested by the IIHS or NHTSA yet, they're still structurally the same as the 2017s. The F150 is a Top Safety Pick and 5 star rated. The Tundra is neither. Know why the F150 is better? You get more features, better features, more configuration choices, more efficient engines and better safety. You complain that the F150 costs more but it's clear that you get more.
You're going to need that 5 star safety when the turbo gets vapor lock and goes into limp mode when you are driving 65 plus MPH and trying to pass another vehicle. Get informed, ford eco-boost class action lawsuit.
Tundra is strong enough to tow space shuttle. Tundra went 1 million miles on one single engine without being rebuild. Tundra seat fabric didn't even worn-out after 1 million miles. Tundra frame lasted 1 million miles. Tundra cab corners lasted one million miles. Tundra exhaust manifold bolts lasted 1 million miles. Tundra engine lasted 1 million miles without blowing spark plugs. Tundra is the only million miles gas truck without problems. To many people focus on looks and forget that looks are deceiving. To many people call reliability is outdated, and favor issues as advanced technology. I know truth hurts, but it's reality.
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CORRECTION: The Ford F-150's torque is 470 lb. ft. NOT 420 lb. ft. (stated in video). Sorry about the confusion!
Hi Rufus. Thanks for your input. Just curious, what do you think are the most important things?
Well, for example if you did have reliability ratings, I think that might be worth a bit more. The fact that the tundra needs a key in the ignition, I would say is less important than something like styling and practicality, which might be in between the other two.Thanks, Rufus
Thanks! We'll take that into consideration for future videos.
Why is HP counted higher than Torque? Considering the weight of the trucks plus what the intended use for towing, hauling and off-roading where torque is more important.
they were both the same trim level ... thats why he mentioned it...
Bought a 2019 Tundra 5.7 TRD Sport double cab. I had 2 GM 1500 trucks that failed me prior. I am very happy to be in my Toyota now.
Im a certified tech and been for over 30 years. I work in an independent shop and work on all brands of vehichles. We have several customers with tundras and dozens of customers with f150s...
The toyotas most common problems are the bushings that mount the rack and pinion. They get old and brittle and cause a bump steer issue and some movement in the steering wheel when you hit bumps. Alternators and radiators are the next most common problem I see with the tundras I maintain.
F 150s most common problems are everything.... I have never had a tundra blow spark plugs out of the head, bust spark plugs off in the head, have fuel drivers fall right the fuck off the truck, have 3rd brake light water leaks from 04-2015 , have vacuum hubs that fail all the time, wires so brittle they are all broken at the door hinges to no windows open, GEM's that constently fail causing security no start problems, front end geomotry that destroy tires no matter where you set the camber ane toe, $300 battery cables that corrode inside out and fail all the time, transmission lines that need to be replaced 99% of the time you swap a radiator, oil filters you can't even get a wrench or hand on, exhaust manifold bolts that constantly break off in the heads....Every single eco boost pile of shit I work on has coolant pouring out the turbos , thats why ford puts that nice fabric skid plate ( diaper) on all there new products, it keeps the owner from realizing they bought a leaking piece of shit....
Toyota is not near as reliable as they were in the 80s-90s but they are a hell of a lot better than ford garbage. Ford does ONE thing well....They have mastered the art of selling an inferior product to brand loyal idiots who don't know what a quality product is...Do you know why the f150 is the best selling truck? Because they fail and you have to buy a new one....( and they offer huge fleet bonuses to get rid of their junk, dodge and GM don't have to ).. They fail to the point that it is not economicaly wise to repair the pile o shit much sooner than any other truck in America....
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Iihs crash safety test have proven ford has what it takes to keep people safe.. so I think this is a bias opinion also the Ford you seen may have been pushed through thier limits cause more people buy ford then Toyota of course your going to see alot of ford's being serviced cause the fact It's the drivers fault of not taking care of it.. God forbid the manufacturer has something to do with it but maybe the fact you see ford in your shop more is because it does sell well cuase people trust it more then the tundra cause the tundra can't pull half as good as a ford does its why people are scared to pull either a Toyota.. I grantee if you pull about 10,000 to 12,000 with a Toyota the Toyota will not survive.. the Ford does pull that much now in the 2018 truck and can do it with no hassle, I like the tundra but I highly doubt it would survive the towing and payload challenge.
Michael Mullen crash safety rating?... That's what's important to you? I guess that's another difference between Toyota owners and Ford owners. Also the OP describes all the issues not only by volume but also by type of issues and the case in point is there are more issues with the F150.
You're going to get hate for stating the truth. Toyota is and WANT to be known for being reliable. That's why they are the biggest manufacturer who are still not putting turbos in their car (in NA at least), wait a long time to introduce android carplay / apple, that's also why they hold on to older tech for a longer time - and it does pay off. I'd rather have a 10 years old toyota than a ford/gm/dodge anyday.
bdd1469 couldn't of said it better but these fucking Ford guys just don't get it
OK. At the end of the day I'm going with the Tundra. I've been down the ford road and it always went to the repair shop. Resale and dependability is what you get with the Tundra.
So did I. Hands down Tundra is the most reliable truck!! hence million mile trucks they have. And HOLD their value. Fords do have more technologies than Tundra... but thats why they're always in the shop!!! Don't believe me... just take a ride to your local Ford dealership and have a look of how many they have to fix!! Then goto Toyota... yep, not many to none!!! Just performing routine maintenance. I've purchased the 1794 model.
Maybe that was just your truck. Mine is a 2006 with 260k miles. 0 problems and everything is still stock from the factory
@@alexpingo1999 my dad went through 3 f150s in 6 years all from different dealers (the first two had to to be lemon lawed). Im still driving his 08 tundra at 300k miles and it still drives better than his 2018 f150.
Dawson Field I guess it was just that truck? Idk. Each one will always be different. Just because the ONE you drive is bad doesn’t mean every single one is. Not trying to argue. I just think that’s how people get their opinions based off of
@@alexpingo1999 its a game of percentage. i'll stick to the percentage that will produce a more reliable car overall
The big diference at the end, is that the Tundra never brakes down, much much more reliable
You got that right!!
@Jeremy Byrd that dealership literally does not exist, a quick google search would tell you that too, and if your such a suck ass for your patriotism about your fords, go work for ford
Facts! 💯
And you’ll have a rusted out ugly truck but it will last longer... and it will break down. I’m so tired of hearing that garbage about they never break down.
The only thing I give to the F150 is the technology, and that’s it. Tundra will outlast any of that. Excellent video.
The tundra will outlast the ford. That's it. The f150 will out tow, better features. better mpg, more torque, and hp.
DRugfree1987 That’s why the f150 is a truck you lease. The tundra is a truck you keep.
@@Bostonharborwater I'll keep my f150 till it hits 200k then move onto new and improved tech after 8-10 years.
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DRugfree1987 tundra has better towing, it can tow 10,200 pounds!
2009 F150 FX 4. Driven with total miles of 98,000 mi. Transmission replaced at 75k and a host of other problems. A 2007 Tundra from Lafayette, LA that rolled over 1 million mi in 2016 only 1 issue that manifested at 750k mi. Toyota retrieved the truck from the owner in exchange for a brand new Tundra. Don't believe me? Google it yourself. I'm in the process of trading my F150 for a 2018 Tundra. Say what you must but the proof is in the puding.
Sold on Tundra ,Thanks..
There is also a million mile Tacoma in Raleigh, North Carolina (NC)
I had a 2007 fx4. Beautiful truck. Transmission went at 100,000 km. Engine timing chain guide broke around the same time. Miss firing and the amount of money to fix it was not worth it. Junk.
Brian T I’m from Lafayette la. Lots of yota fans out here.
Thank you for that. My father in law was telling me over and over to go with an F150 when looking for a truck. I'm buying a Tundra with all my father in law said lol now I see this comment and I'm glad I made the right choice just bought a 2018 tundra
Went with a 2016 Silverado over a 2016 Tundra 3.5 years ago, and it was a mistake. I was dazzled by the fancier truck, which is the case here with the F-150 vs the Tundra. Had transmission problems right off the bat, and I hated it so much that I traded it for another Silverado (2018) with an upgraded engine and transmission (6.2L/8Speed), which was a HUGE improvement. However, 8400 miles later the transmission started leaking all over my garage floor, ended up spending 2 weeks in the shop to get fixed. That's when I was over the fancy bullshit features these trucks have over the Tundra, and started paying attention to what really mattered most, well built and extremely RELIABLE drive trains. That's what the Tundra has over all of these other truck brands. So that's what mattered most to me this time around. Made a smart decision this time and Traded the 2018 Silverado in for a 2020 Tundra. Didn't even bother looking at Ram and F-150. The price differences between them are not justified, and this is just based on the simple fact that their drive trains are inherently INFERIOR to that of the Toyota Tundra. You can't polish a turd with glam and glitter and expect to get away with it long term. Tundra for the win!
I'll take the tundra any day plus go on vacation 4 times
ill take the 80 grand limited f-150 like i did and still go on vacation twice a year..
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F-150 KING OF TRUCKS good luck with payments for 10 years
Ya until you take it in for repairs then say good bye to your vacation.
@@RAM-KINGOFTRUCKS ....yeah your vacation will be at the Ford Dealership..while your junk truck is getting fixed
nice video, but you forgot to mention long term reliability and I believe the Tundra is much better that respect..
OBAAT it’s not a wash. The 5.0 has it’s issues. In particular the same timing issues that have plagued ford V8s for years now.
@@seabass22 it has its issues that rarely show up, and when they do its well after 200k miles
Alan Boginskey it’s a good motor for sure. I don’t know anyone that has had issues.
Let’s see how long those eco boost engines last. Ford doesn’t make a 5.7L engine? And for you guys that cry about gas mileage, get a car.
dark matter for a very long time buddy . They are coming out with even a boxer engine in 2019 . 150s are optional for diesel now , and ford makes a 6.2, way better than the 5.7... by the way the new boxer engine will get 37 Mpg.. if you get a 150 diesel it will have 45 mpg. Just do the switch to ford, join us 😈
The engine may last, but the shit supporting the engine doesn't. I had BOTH turbos go out by 65k miles. I dont tow, and i sure as hell dont abuse my truck but nevertheless, 2 turbos. one was covered under warranty, the other cost me 5k
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@yea bouy I had the 5.0 coyote engine in a f150 as well. Strong engine for sure, but not as level as the 5.7. The 5.0' power band kicks in around 35 mph, the 5.7 is consistent throughout. The 5.0 coyote is probably fords best gas engine in 20 years.
@yea bouy you're looking at a drag race perspective. I'm saying the 5.7 is the most level powered throughout acceleration out of all of them. That 700lbs DOES make a huge difference though. Cant take that from Ford, great design. Again, the coyote 5.0 is the best engine but it absolutely has a power band you feel, where the 5.7 you cant. Its flat.
@@jasonlewis995 Sounds like poor maintenance and ignorance for paying 5k for a turbo you must be special
The more electronic things you add the more expensive the maintenance will be so take that into consideration. That why the tundra is the better value
I will always take dependability over looks.
Bodyguard 56 same, the f150 may be ugly but it is way more updated and dependable then the outdated pos Toyota’
I actually think the F-150 looks better and more masculine.
Moxon I own a TRD Pro. Lol
Bodyguard 56 then for you we have the Toyota Tundra
Moxon no big deals on Ford either, you’re lucky to get a few grand off a premium F150 here in Canada and Ram and GM were offering 12,000 off or more
I would take the Tundra. You can't beat reliability.
Ford does beat them in reliability, Toyota trucks arent Toyota cars. Their trucks suck.
@@KevinWilliams19723 the original Tundra was not good, but the newer ones are very reliable. Meanwhile you have these ecoboosts driving around throwing timing chains and the 5.0 burning oil. Fords are overpriced as well.
Andy's Shop not meaning to bump an old thread but respectfully Toyota v8 doesn’t have enough years under its belt to be considered reliable. They do have a few years of rust. Few of recalls because of sticking gas pedals. So I don’t think you can realistically say more reliable.
@@addisonestes1219 that 5.7 V8 has been around longer than coyote and the eco boost fool
John Rose and still dead last in truck sales. I guess innovation outweighs timeless failures.
Tundra hands down.
iL take the reliability of the 5.7 V8
I'd take a base tundra over a loaded ford anyday
Chalay Mon but for towing capacity I'd take the Ford over the tundra any day.. What's the use of a truck if you can't tow alot.
Michael Mullen for towing I'd get a cummins ram 3500...we use one for work to pull our mini excavator and cat 299 skid steer (not at same time ofcourse)..it's nice..but I was talking as an everyday reliability stand point..
A good friend of mine sold her f350 powerstroke for a tundra to haul her goose horse trailer. lol she loves it and she loves that the base model looks better the ford base model
@@kingbeast777 why would you get an 3/4 ton truck for towing period?
Private Number I’ve owned probably eight or nine new Fords down through the years and I have never needed a warranty repair. And back when we were poor we drove our Fords to 300,000 miles before we traded them and never had an engine or transmission give out. Only dealt with a couple of minor issues.
Which one have a better resell value and which one spends less time in the shop ?
Oumer Mohammad The Ford, Tundra is just so outdated lmao
You’d be surprised, but some used F150s cost more than new ones with the discounts. It’s actually irritating to me personally, but it gives more inventive to buy new. Which is probably why F150s are the best selling trucks
Oumer Mohammad tundra best resell value and Tundra way more reliable than the turd (ford)
Those tides have turned a few years ago, Ford F-150 is now more reliable and efficient than the Tundra.
Chris M. There a tundra that has 1,000,000 miles a ford will never get there
I would take the reliability of the Toyota over than Ford any day. All of our Ford's at my job are back and forth from the dealer for recalls
Reliably get shit mpg(9 mpg, 6 mpg when towing lol) reliably rust into pieces in 3-4 years, reliably tow less, and reliably are the king of suck. Toyota trucks are a JOKE. Your Fords actually do real work, those Yotas are yuppy "look i'm a man that reads consumer reports" trucks. Nobody buys them to actually haul anything.
Kevin Williams tundra hauls way more than F150, tundra can haul 10,200 pounds.
@@KevinWilliams19723 nah, your beloved Ford makes piles of shit. We all start out as Ford lovers, give it time. You'll grow up one day 😉
@@Lordspaghett Toyota is trash
@@KevinWilliams19723 Ford is trash
Tundra will last longer and less expense. Design is not the issue, quality and reliability is matter the most. The more they upgrade the more expense it will cost to repair.
Do your research ford transmission sucks! Toyota last forever... ive had both and ford really disappointed me i drive a tundra right now and its way better!
@Tony Brown nice grammar
Tony Brown thanks
I like the F-150 looks but I love the Toyota reliability.
I think the tundra looks better and is more reliable and tougher and fast
@@gregmsnow the F-150 is way faster than the tundra you can't even compare them in speed
Tundra, Cheaper, More reliable, Lasts longer, has the most percentage of parts made in America.
Ford, Expensive, Always in the shop, Isn't really American these days
Tundra is more expensive at most more reliable more faster and more tougher
Ironically enough I'm trading my 2011 F-150 for a Tundra tomorrow. I only have 80k miles on it and I'm the type of person that likes to drive em' till they drop. This Ford has been a heaping pile o' sheet. It burns oil, water collects in the passenger door every time it rains, transmission slips and now the blower on my AC is making a tapping noise, so I've had it. I'll take reliability over anything else that Ford says they offer.
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For everyone here who says one truck is better then the other you have to realise it's not a luxury vehicle ! It's a truck made for working and if I'm pulling a boat on a muddy hill down to a public access I'm deffenitly choosing a v8 over a ford mustang engine in a truck that's like a skinny guy carrying a fat chick pistons going to go out for sure oil burning turbo compartments turbo oil leaks it's going to be a higher maintenance in the long term for the legendary f150 while the 5.7 tundra is straight forward with a basic v8 for me I don't have time for turbo maintenance and the expensive price to maintain a dual turbo...
Even then in the Mustang community, V6's are shit on
Your stament is confusing. "I'm choosing a V8 over a Ford mustang engine"..... What kind of engine do you think is in the mustang gt's? And if it's not a gt, is it even a mustang?
Look at tundra now v6 turbos😂
The F-150 being 12k more, I’d take the Tundra. It’s got everything I need.
You also have the option to drop down a couple trim levels on the F-150 to the Lariat package, which has all the essentials to include leather seats. F-150 Lariat is closer to this Tundra's price point.
It's not 12k more when comparing apples to apples. Drop down a model and choose the options that match up the best with the Tundra and you're very close in price with a vehicle that has a much more recent update. Just opting for the naturally aspirated V8 which is more comparable to the Tundra V8 will take a major chunk off the F150 price tag. I have no idea why the reviewer chose the trim levels and engine the way he did. It's almost like he was trying to give the Tundra a head start.
I would say they forgot some benefits of the tundra though. Things like the 10.5 rear end and 9.5 front diff with 4.30s in them. And yes they are both vented disc but the tundra has 13.9" brakes and the front is fixed 4 piston calipers. Also it uses a key but the tundra has bump start, you just bump the key to start it and it turns over on its own
Yeah tundra towing mpg is like 6 mpg lol
Naturally aspirated wins all. turbo charge is nothing but problem in the later years.
Cool video but none of those points justify $10+ more for the Ford. ESPECIALLY since the resale on the Tundra will be better.
john perciballi Yeah better by only 3%
the tundra gets 1 point per 1000.00 yet the Ford gets 1 point for fake leather covered plastic.
...go to any dealer or ask any car guy...Tundras retain their value far in excess of F150s...this isn't speculation, it's fact...
Yeah if the Tundra didnt rust in half, it's still a problem. Toyota trucks are a joke, any one of the Big 3's options are superior in every way.
Longevity is more important to some people than just looks . We all know who wins that one.
1 point per $1,000? So my $600 1980 F150 would beat them both with 50 points? I'm livin the dream I guess.
Mike Albert yeah, I didn't get that handicap myself. Why not 1 point per $500 or 1 point per $5,000 or just 1 point period for being cheaper. Of course the Ford will be substantially more, they spend substantially more on ingenuity. 12 point handicap to keep it close I guess.
Moxon yeah 19 year's ago to prove my point, not new innovation. 19 years from now they'll say remember when Ford was the only full size truck manufacturer with aluminum bodies.
Ford V8's have been using variable valve timing ever since they went to overhead cams back in '96 they just don't call it vvti
Indrid Cold before or after the tundras rusted out frame is replaced?
guy proulx replace frames that didn't rust and collapse under the weight of its own body...no.
Reputation is the key! Toyota=Reliability and Ford= FixOrRepairDaily
LMAO !
FreeOfRepairDamage 🙄 but seriously looking at Tundra or Tacoma
Tundra is more of a reliable truck and Quality also. QDR is the whole thing.
Lol I love how he's like, the Ford has all this nice extra stuff. As if the Ford needs anything else that can break 😂
I have a 14 F-150 with 280k miles on it. No major issues yet.
Nick Roberts what year ?
Nicholas Russell my bad bro 😅
So the Tundra is a 11 year truck technology that is still ticking and only came in 3 points short of a new F150? What is there to brag about for the Ford? How about next time you compare V8 to V8. Also the 1794 Tundra comes with different interior color other than black. How can any true truck guy be happy about turbo charge in a truck? What are you doing, racing your truck on the streets?
Adam that was only 2 years on the 5.4l motor. That's it.
Ford outlast tundra.
I didn't know the tundra mad a truck in 1794. That's impressive. Good to know.
Wow yea rear windshield? Yea you are full of knowledge.
"How can any true truck guy be happy about turbo charge in a truck?" It's called 470 ft/lbs of torque. What are you doing with your truck? Hauling groceries?
you do realize they gave them an extra 11 points for the cost right? should have been one point for a win in that category.. everything else goes to ford..
And something else no one really mentions is the tundra is very overbuilt. Sure it’s dated as fuck and is basically 10 years old going on 11 but it’s built like a 3/4 ton more than the 1/2 ton class it’s in. Parts are built to last and it can tow above the “rating” also.
PWDT4R It's a beast. Tows my 10k boat better than my 07 Cummins did and pulled a 21k 5th wheel no problem. Ford has made great strides, but it seems like a lot of unnecessary bells and whistles.
There's nothing that comes close to making it three quarter ton. It has a dismal 1600 lb payload and a motor comparable to most half tons. Engine is reliable and will run a long, long time with good maintenance but rest of truck will have disintegrated with rust by 80-100k.
hojo70 assuming your state is prone to rust..
Even if it is any vehicle can rust out at any given time
My Tundra has almost 300k miles, no rust and has never broken or let me down.
Not including the Tundras reliability is a major goof. Mile for mile the Tundra (regardless of JD Powers outdated reviews) would easily give it the lead.
I drove both and ended up with F-150. Yes, I used be a die hard Toyota fan but F-150 tops them all.
MP5 just wait until you trade in that Ford down the road, than you will regret buying a Ford, no full size truck has a higher resale value than a Tundra!
Dang... already brought one :(
I disagree totally. I owned a 07 Limited and now own a 16 Ford. Yes you could feel the weight difference but sync 3 keeps disconnecting from my phone mid song. With my towing package with the v8 it is terrible compared to how the Tundra pulled. My Ford feels literally gutless. One thing she didn't mention, but if you aren't a truck person you wouldn't notice is the truck bed. The Ford yes is sprayed but it is in sections. There are 1/8" cracks between these sections like around the wheel well and dust will fill it up. I had to use caulking to fill it. Also the lift gate doesn't seal either. Its frickin awful. Now talking about the Ecoboost. My dealer said not to buy those motors because of reliability issues. You look at any "lemon" books on reliability and Tundra is top end. Resale value I can attest to as well. I purchased my 07 Tundra for 31995 Canadian in 2011 and in 2016 got 22900 for it. Resale value is also where you make money. I am 99% sure I'll be going back to Toyota even though my Ford dealer is great. I'm just hoping the new design comes out before that and they put the 5.0 V8 from the Lexus RCF in it revamped for truck use and a new tranny with more speeds.
unnervingfalcon the new ford truck has a towing capacity of 12,000 thousand and payload of 5,000 I think that's great now Btw you prolly had a bad run but in crash safety test iihs puts ford on the top of the list.
Michael Mullen I own the trailer. Not just one bad run. Plus 12,000 is only with certain configurations. That would be with the 3.73 rear end not the 3.55 with the towing package.
This is one of the best black and white reviews I have ever seen. I am a Toyota guy thru and thru but it is really good to know what the tundra doesn’t have. Toyota does really need to do some upgrading.
In the end it all comes down to who do you trust more Toyota or Ford? If you had good experience with the Ford why would you buy a Toyota? I get that. Yes, Fords have a lot more features, and bells and whistles that you cannot get on Tundra. Ford wins hands down in that category. If you value your money you will choose a Toyota. That is what I did despite acknowledging that Ford had better acceleration, better features, better looks I still bought a Toyota. I just don't trust Ford. Look at the history of recalls and you will understand what I am talking about here. If you like spending your time at the dealership while they do the next recall on your truck then by all means get a Ford.
Tundra has plenty of recalls and that truck has been around since 2007.
Which ones holds it value better Tundra which one is rated more reliable Tundra
Car confections, you screwed up the engine part, the 3.5 ecoboost in the 2018 F-150 has 470 Lb ft of torque, not 420, so it has A LOT more torque than the Tundra, plus the torque is more usable, peak torque for the 3.5 comes at 3500 rpm, which is at a lower rpm than on the tundra's V8, the ford should have gotten the point for the engine, the ecoboost is all around, a better engine.
Ford Ecoboost engine = vapor lock, limp mode.
Look it up, Ford has a class action lawsuit on this issue right now since so many owners are having this major issue. Crap engine.
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MrSharpshooter06 There is reason why Toyota has put a V8 in their big trucks not on their sedans. Because Trucks take more abuse than a sedan and smaller engine will crack way before the bigger V8. Ask your local mechanics about the trouble with Ecoboost engines and their turbos.
I sold my 2003 tundra 4.7 V8 almost 200 thousand Miles was running great but my tow hitch rusted and had a problem. So I bought a 2014 tundra love it
In my opinion anything over 7 speed is asking for mechanical issues in the long run.
jon kenny elaborate, what leads you to believe this?
You dont have a clue.
10 speed puts less strain on everything.
Everyone in the comments: Toyota. Sometimes the comments are more helpful than the review itself lol
I would pick the Tundra over any vehicle in the world all day
848 dislikes by the ford buyers who realized the 6 banger doesn't last as long as the tundra motor. Turbos are more expensive to maintain and they wear out the motor much faster....especially. 6 banger pushing all that weight. And lets not even discuss the transmission problems and costs to repair it vs the Tundras legendary near bullet proof transmissions. Toyota is the far better choice here. Unless you like more stuff to break.. Then go for the ford.
And finally reliability...10 points for Toyota.
My f150 has had a plethora of problems and I'm only at 82k miles. Some problems were stretched timing chain, ac compressor, oil pan gasket, water pump, 1 bad turbo, head gaskets leaking and more. I will be trading it in for a tundra or 4runner as soon as i get it back from the shop.
I will always be a Tundraynian. And they will never squeak like the Fords.
My grandpa bought a 2018 Ford F-150 XLT with the 3.3L engine in blue jeans color for $42,000 doesn’t have the big screen or the fancy stuff but it has everything else and has tinted windows, tonnel cover, and step guards were added as dealer accessories. The truck has auto start, stop feature.
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I lol'd but the new Tundra redesign is 2020!
you are so wright
I just bought my new truck 3 days ago. I was stuck between the GMC Denali , tundra, and F150 - went with a race red 2018 F150 lariat with just about every option and love it. The F150’s technology is what ended up being the deciding factor, the front camera, 360 view, and back up camera makes navigating tight parking lots a lot easier. I love that my F150 can park itself , but I don’t see me actually utilizing that option, but I can’t wait to get my boat’s trailer programmed into the truck so I can try out the backup trailer controls 👍🏼. As far as pricing goes I picked up my F150 for $61k out the door (had a MSRP of $63k and the Toyotas I had liked would have been in the same neighborhood. Happy New Years and hope everyone has an awesome 2018 🎉
Yikes 60k, the deprecation is going to give you chest pains.
As much as I sorta like Toyota, the Tundra’s just a bit too outdated for everything else
And so ugly! No thanks on a Toyota!
Bernie Toyota's are high quality.
Hope they will fully redesign by 2010. Already a facelift 2018, so I dont think 2019 will change much.
Eva Valles High quality but not the interior lol
Bernie I completely agree with you man I own a tundra good drive train and all but my god the interior is shit cheap plastic, the radio shuts off all the time. It’s way outdated
Here's my list of all the things I care about in a truck.
1.) Reliable/affordable
2.) Will it haul my kayak safely
3.) Ac
4.) V-8
I don't need heated tailgates, or muffler lights just give me a reliable, affordable truck.
f150's are a dime a dozen. just look at your local classified ads there are hundreds for sale. most over rated truck ever
Ford was the first to make pickups into production and kept improving over those years. And of course you see them everywhere they're the #1 selling truck for a reason.
When I was looking for a used tundra there was dozens of semi new Ford in every dealership they where practically giving them away even with lifts and decked out...hell to the no...lol
@@alkalosMcDonals are #1 in burgers sales too and were also one of the first to sell...
You failed to mention that the Tundra is the only pick-up truck with 4 piston calipers on the largest front discs anywhere. You also missed the fact that the Tundra Dbl Cab with 6.5' box has a much larger back seat than the Ford given my need for a 19.5' truck to fit in my 19.6' garage. Even trying to forget the 10K difference we couldn't ignore the tiny legroom in the back seat when using the 6.5' box that we also need. I liked the luxury, quiet and great ride of the Ford and was willing to give it a try but just couldn't make it fit our needs and our garage.
thank you its a nice video I have a 2018 SR5 Toyota tundra and all I can say Iam a happy camper , its conffortable and I i love it , so i really think F-150 its good too..
08 Tundra 229,000 Replaced Battery and Alternater, Brake Rotors and Pads twice, just replaced 2 fuel ratio sensors and both O2 sensors, 2 cats . Wouldn't Own any Thing Else . One Hell of a Truck . 20 mpg highway . 13 pulling a Load . If it didn't have a speed limiter it Will Out Run Damn near all Comers .
Didn't mention that the ford has an aluminum body
Fair enough review. You always get more features with Fords and the new one looks really nice. Toyota's tend to be more utilitarian but reliable as an anvil and underrates their towing and carrying capacity. I have had trucks with a much higher capacity on paper but out on the highway the Tundra felt more in control and the six-speed with the thumb shifter makes the downhills steady and predictable.
Since you added a point per thousand on price, you should have added a point per thousand on towing to make it even...
Ford has aluminum body and weighs less is which why it can town more. That's also why I can rip a fender off that truck with my hands. Who makes a truck out of brittle materials
I like the F150 more but I do wish Toyota offers more updated features and powertrain. Yeah I know it's tried and true but it doesn't hurt for Toyota to sometimes take a leap forward and create something new that will leave people in awe. Like the first time Toyota introduced the second generation Tundra back in 2007. Now that was something to behold.
I have owned both the Tundra '17 and Ford F-150 EcoBust '12 the comparisons are not even close.
Tundra outperforms F-150 in every way with the exception of MPGs and towing weight
Bottom line Ford was always in the shop the Tundra was not.
The F-150 is a lot faster too
My father has a 2011 platinum f150 that has over 100k miles and its still smooth and powerful never had an issue.
Great mash up! In my opinion I like the looks of the Ford in every angle but that Toyota reliability isn’t gonna let anyone down. I’d take the Toyota.
Dustin Hart maybe you’re right, BUT, Ford has pretty much caught up to Toyota so reliability is a toss
Ian Keslar In what book? Not to be rude but take any Fusion compared to a Camry and see who wins in longevity.
Dustin Hart He's right, ford isn't as reliable as Toyota but they're close these days. As someone who sells cars, I would def recommend a ford, toyota or kia over a Nissan or honda.
Puff the Magic Dragon I disagree. I think Toyota, Honda, and Subaru are still the strongest in the pack. I mean Hyundai/Kia, Ford, Chevy, Etc., are strong suits but when it comes to reliability I think those 3 will take the lead. Now I can say if Honda doesn’t stop making their cars like they have been then they will decrease on my personal list.
Puff the Magic Dragon better get your facts straight for the out last Toyota in the rest of that garbage
I know several people that have had huge huge problems with ford trucks. I do not have time to type it all out and i am NOT on a side. But i have to say after seeing a friend and others go through nightmares with ford. My old employer purchased a ford truck for almost 50K Canadian. just after the warranty was up it broke down. Brought into he dealership, they had his bill at almost 10k and the truck was still not running. They gave him a deal on a new truck, he did not want to buy another ford but had no option at that point. Not to mention the break downs under warranty.
Ford puts in a big effort to build junk. I learned the hard way.
The two best pickups,they both win.:-)
no depreciation factor? which one holds value better over time?
The ford will 100 percent be broke down before the Toyota.
Ford Motor Co. has come a long way in the past 6-7 years in the reliability department. A lot of new tech, more efficient.
So much ignorance on the internet. Toyotas reliability is so overrated and over-hyped it ridiculous. Toyota rides a reputation. Are Toyotas generally good and reliable vehicles? Sure, but so are Fords, GM's, and most other major automakers. In fact some of the worst modern day vehicles reliability issues I've seen were from Toyotas. I've known 2 different people with the Lexus version of a Camry have their motors go out in them. Both were less than 10 years old and one was probably about 5 years old and both were sub 120K miles cars one was barely over 100K on the odometer. Then I had a boss who bought a brand new 08 Tundra 2WD truck and took it back to the dealer 3 times in the first year because it kept having wheel bearings go bad.
Also I call BS on Fords reliability getting better in the last 6-7 years. If anything it's gotten worse. Not mechanically but these newer vehicles are so advanced that their is way more that can go wrong. If you take a 15-20 year old F150 or Silverado/Sierra, and you keep up with their maintenance, and don't overly abuse them then 300K miles should be easy. My modded 03 Lightning with 180K that I beat on more than most people beat on their cars runs as good today as it did at 60K. Only real issue other than basic maintenance like brakes and oil changes is the front seal on my rearend developed a slow leak but it didn't cripple the truck it just left a little gear oil on my garage floor. Easily fix in my garage in just a couple hours. I've known several 5.3L guys with over 250K that were modded and beat on hard that ran great with no real problems. The overall build quality might not be as nice as the newer truck but the reliability of the older 1/2 tons is excellent for the most part if they've been kept up with.
JROC734 I agree with your 2nd part of your comment but I kind of have to disagree with your first part. I know of many Toyotas out there that have more than 250k+ Miles on them. Most of which are 4runners. I’ve heard of a Corolla (might’ve been) that hit over 600k Miles, a 4Runner hitting 500k, but everyone doesn’t have the same luck but what I’ve heard a lot of Toyota owners have had good luck, but to each their own. If you take good care of it it’ll take good care of you.
JROC734 what are you talking about? Toyota reliability overhyped, have you owned one. My family and extended family mainly drive Toyota vehicles and all of them are far more reliable than the domestic stuff. I have a vetranerian with nearly 400k miles on a first gen tundra and it runs and drives like a new rig and has only recently needed an alternator. How's that for reliable. My 07 camry is the same way 245k and not a single problem, haven't even replaced the battery yet.
Jess Roberts exactly what I said. Overrated and overhyped. Are Toyota's generally reliable? Yes, but so are most modern vehicles and particularly full-sized trucks built during the Gen1 Tundras era are very reliable vehicles if you keep up with them. Yes a Gen1 Tundra is usually a very reliable truck and IMO one of the best vehicles Toyota has ever build. Definitely more reliable than the Gen2 Tundra and I get this from some of my old Toyota truck fanboy friends. Again I've know 2 different people with the Lexus equivalent to the Camry that had the motor shit the bed on them without much over 100K on their odometers. Is that surprising? Yes, as Camry's tend to be well built and reliable cars. I've dated umpteen girls who drove Camry's along with know other people with them and they seemed like good running cars, but what can I say it happen and having a motor with less than 130K let go is shitty. Hell I had a 95 Integra GSR lose a cylinder at 124K. Weren't Hondas supposed to be the most reliable cars is the 90's? That car was stock other than a CAI and a header.
I've know several people with Foxbodies with over 200K on the factory 302, and one with over 300K on the original drive. Yes the chassis's were worn and loose being that they are build on a platform who's wheelbase has been know to shrink from years of braking but they ran fine. I knew a woman who had bought a brand new GEN3 Camaro and drove it for several years and the motor went out at 43K. I was a kid and I know it was a V8 car. Not sure is it has a 305 or a 350 but I think it was a Z/28. Anyway a car just a few years old had the motor let go at around 43K. That's crappy reliability but then come to find out she never once had the oil changed in the car and the motor lasted 43K on the original oil before the motor let go.
Toyota people are like Kubota people. They think their shit is the bomb, and that everyone elses shit stinks. Kubota people act like any sub-100 hp tractor isn't on a Kubotas level. BS, I've personnally had better luck with my American cars than my Japanese cars even though my 93 Civic was a great cars that never gave me any trouble. There's not just one brand that shines all the time. They generally compete pretty well against one another. You can give me a list of issues that other manufacturers have had and I can give you a list of issues that Toyotas have had.
Basically by buying Japanese cars and tractors among other things you're helping build their economy while not really helping ours. I don't give a fuck is you buy up some of OUR land in the southeast to get cheap labor and built some plant to help employ a few thousand Americans so you can claim that it's American made while the American owned companies aren't made here. They come here and build niche vehicles that sell in no other market but NA, and return most of their profits to Japan but we're not allowed to buy land in Japan and build or sell other products over there in their market because that would take away from their profits. Well fuck them. And if you look up how much our government taxes our local businesses on the dollor it's no surprise many are built in foreign countries that don't tax then nearly as hard, but the American companies still bring their profits back here for the most part.
I have an 2010 and 2014 tundra and they never let me down. They are the most reliable truck I own, my brothers on the other hand have ford and Chevrolet and I always have to repair their trucks. So if anyone looking for a good reliable truck, get a tundra. You won’t regret.
As you said right at the beginning, the Tundra is an 11 year old truck and the F-150 is 3 years old with a substantial refresh for this year . That's more than enough for me. There's a reason Ford outsells all others and trucks like Tundra barely figure in the truck battle. One other thing to consider is the Tundra model reviewed is the top offering while the F-150 model is 2nd from the top.
66skate not all police use ford you dumbass
Police, what are you even talking about?
66skate wrong person
LMAO, I was wondering the same thing.
Why fix something that isnt broken?
Great comparison, both are great trucks. I’ve owned 3 Tundras since 2007. My current truck is a 2015 TRD Pro. I get 11.9 mpg with my Nitto Trail Grappler tire upgrade. The nav system is outdated and I have to push the “tow/haul” button to get a responsive feel through the throttle.
With that being said, Ford has gotten way too proud of their trucks in pricing. The reason Ford is the best selling truck in North America is due to fleet sales. Look at any big city parks and recreation or street department vehicles. All Ford trucks... Ford has chosen to pass those government and municipal discounts on by raising prices for the public.
In a nutshell:
F150 is more comfy and luxurious than Tundra is. Cool! The environment where you have to spend your time waiting for the tow-truck is important.
Which is pretty nice from Ford... I think.
Reliability is a no brainer. The Tundra wins that hands down. The cost to replace the Fords turbos is about $4000 PER turbo. Which they will fail if you do any, yes any towing. Those tiny little turbos are not meant to spool under load for an extended amount of time. The reason you don't hear jokes about Toyotas breaking down, is because toyotas dont. break. down.
Lets do another comparison between them after 200,000 miles! .. I bet the Toyota will look no different!
A point was awarded for each $1k difference in price at the start. I think you should have done the same thing for towing capacity, after all a truck is supposed to tow and pull stuff first and foremost. So add 2 more to fords score. Just my opinion.
Gas would cost about the same in the ford, no? The tundra takes regular fuel, while turbo engines typically require premium, which is substantially different in price (when filling up 36 gallons). The Ford has a few things more that I like, such as the sunroof, but Toyota is simple and won’t break. I’ve had a 2003 Tacoma since it had 10 miles, and it has been my daily driver for almost 20 years. I’ll be upgrading for a tundra platinum soon :)
The ford just has more crap that will break. More is not better.
Yeper you are right
You can always get cheaper versions like an XLT with less gadgets and a 5.0 Coyote V8. You can keep the 10 speed.
The Toyota is so outdated I'd rather get a used one and save about half the money. I'd be getting the same truck compared to the new one, LOL
Bruno DeFrancesco your truck spends more gas than a ram and my raptor
The 2018 5.0 (Coyote) F150 is a monster. Over 340 rwhp stock, 400 rwhp with 93 octane tune and CAI.
It makes the Toyota 5.7 feel weak, gets much better mileage, and will last as long as any Toyota V8 ever thought about like all Ford Modular engines besides the 4.6/5.4 3-valve variation.
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LSandViper Killer my son has the 2015 fx4 5.0 and can't even keep up to me.
Good basic side by side comparison without getting into the power, performance and drivetrain. As a buyer, this actually allowed me to narrow my vehicle search in what I want in a vehicle. Thank you.
My tundra have starter remote 👌🏼
You're ranking system is delusional. 5 years later the better truck is the Tundra. It is better in resale, reliability and build quality. Serially flawed process here.
Toyota is better quality and are more dependable in the long run.
ac c keep dreaming
ac c Ford has been known to make great trucks through out all the years. So has Toyota. Ford and Toyota makes the best trucks all around. And this is coming from a Mopar man.
ac c yes I agree. I have a buddy with a 2012 rock warrior, it's hands down better truck than my 2015 silverado. The only thing my silverado is slightly quieter and maybe better fuel milage. Towing and payload are the same. But my chevy has been in the shop 3 times now for repairs and his Toyota never has with 130k miles.
Frame will rot in the yota in 5 years lol
Show us the facts that back up this statement. Where can we see and/ or read of the facts you have stated. I need to make a decision soon regarding what I'm buying.
Great review...the most comprehensive and complete review on TH-cam.
Thanks! We appreciate that!
if you compare acceleration the F150 destroys the Tundra
carlos muniz even the 5.0 since it has 4 extra horsepower than the 5.7
A person named Sam There’s other factors other than horsepower my friend. Not saying the F-150 isn’t quicker, but saying just don’t base acceleration off of pure hp.
carlos muniz
pedal commander will solve that tundra problem really quick i got the commander in my 2016 tacoma and yup now its a beast.
Shaun W.
its an electronic device that taps into your gas pedal and it bypasses the lag when you stomp on the gas. like all the older vehicles have a cable going from your gas pedal to your throttle body so its precise when you push on the gas the pedal commander does the same thing just in an electronic form.
Shaun W.
go to pedal commander. com it gives you more info.
Toyota dependability is subjective. I have a 1999 Landcruiser with the 4.7L V8 with 155K. Dependable yes - perfect no. It is on its third starter - which for some dumb ass reason is between the engine and the firewall which means $ 600.00 labor to get the damn thing out. So that is $900.00 there x 2. And a throttle body for a cool $1K installed. I never expected those types of repairs on a Toyota. And this was built in Japan - not Texas.
Could of saved you some time.
Tundra vs Any truck
Winner: Tundra
I realize this video comparison is over a year old, but just stumbled upon it and liked its presentation so much I subscribed. My personal experience is I bought a new ford 150 in 1990 and at 32,000mi the engine rear seal leaked and it went into the shop to drop the tranny to replace the engine seal. Was told they had a bad batch of seals that model year. One of the dual fuel tanks started leaking at 36,000 mi had to replace it. Took it on vacation one summer and the power steering failed, and got dinged $840 to repair it which hurt me financially and interrupted my vacation for a couple days sitting in the shop out of state. Around 50,000 mi the two tone paint started flaking off in big chunks, and was told they had a defective primer in Detroit for that model year. Truck was repainted, and was in the shop for another week. Couple years later a delivery truck rear ended it on the expressway and bent the frame totaling this F150. Best thing that could have happened! In 2008 I bought a new Tundra 4x4 double cab, SR5, TRD, 5.7L V8 for 32,000. Drove it to 109,000 mi 6yrs later got 15,000 for it in trade on a 2014 Tundra, same model. Currently have 62,000 on it now and both Tundras have only required routine oil changes, and general maintenance such as one new set of tires at 64,000mi, and one set of brake pads at 94,000 mi! I live in the north east snow country, and love that my Tundras always get the job done in all weather conditions, on road, off road, and no surprise repairs ever!
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Ford hands down wins in this comparison.... As well, the new for 2017 (2018 as well) 2nd Gen ecoboost puts out 470ftlbs or torque not 420 like stated in his video....
Hi there! Sorry about the confusion! We were wrong about the F-150's torque and we sincerely apologize!
No worries man.... Just throwing it out there that the ecoboosts putting out some larger numbers this year! Cheers bud!!
Ford could never win. Why the Ford is 10k more and will fall apart in about three years. I know because I owned plenty of Fords. Sure the Tundra may not have all the features as the Ford does but its 10k less. When I'm paying 40 to 50k for a truck it better last me a Long time before I have to start doing repairs or replace it and thats were Ford fails miserably. Good luck with your Ford.
ANTI ANTIFA because being the supposedly "Best selling truck in America" he thought that it was from the build quality. But no, it's because the trucks keep on breaking down, and people need to keep buying new trucks.
Time2 DumpTrump the Toyota Tundra is more American than any Ford truck on the road.
Idk if I want a Tundra or a F-150. Tundra has the reliability, but it’s a little outdated, and F-150 is less reliable, but more up to date. Not really worried about resale, because I’ll be keeping whatever I get for at least 10 years. That said, idk anyone that’s had an issue with the 5.0 F-150 and certainly not anyone that has had a problem with their Tundra, and I know people that have ragged the shit out of them and they still rolling, strong as ever.
I had my tundra since 08. Crazy reliability. My only problem with it . I need some that will tow at least 14 thousand pounds. I'm kinda screwed. Nothing conpears in reliability. Any suggestions?
People really take this stuff to heart lmao
I've owned both and I'll take the Toyota hands down !
You can get the top end tundra with a different color interior with the 1794... Also remote start is an option on the tundra
brettg949
The remote starts on toyota is not worth the 500+$ price.
Steve Smith I never said it was worth it he stated these two were the best the companies have to offer and he said it was missing it. I simply corrected him since others wouldnt think it wasn't an option.
brettg949
I understand. I was just informing of the inferior operations of the toyota unit from experience.
Optional? On a $50K + vehicle? It should come standard. Hell, the XLT trim comes with optional remote start and that’s one of the cheapest trims.
guy proulx 55k plus you think it really matters? Work trim truck probably not.
Both truck are very nice truck, but I would never buy the f150. I have the 2011 tundra and not having any problems with it. People that I know drove the f150 and it give them nothing but in and out of the shop.
I just recently compared both. And I must say I am not brand loyal since I came from a Ram with issues. But you need to 1. Drive both- there is no comparison! The F-150 blows it away! 2. Shut the doors on the Tundra and it sounds like a Tin can. 3. Towing -Ford again wins. 4. Longevity- As far as longevity goes there are far...far greater number of older Ford trucks on the road then Tundras. If Ford was selling Junk no marketing in the world would be able to cover it up now that we have the internet. I chose an F-150 with the proven 5.0 V8 and I'll put that up against any Tundra. Oh and to really put this to bed the F-150 will never rust try that one Tundra! In all honesty Tundra is a great Truck but in my personal opinion, the F-150 is much better.
Tom E of course there are a lot more order Ford's out there then tundras they out sell them 80 to 1 good choice on that 5.0 much better & will way out last any ehcoboost.
the ecoboost will turn out to be the more reliable motor because when towing it doesn't have to scream at 4500 rpm.. it can cruise at a nice 2500 rpm.. low end torque is unmatched at 3000rpm the 5.0 is at 175 lbft of torque, the 3.5 ecoboost is at 415 and the little 2.7 is at 370. the ecoboost is the next best thing to a diesel for towing.. the ability to tow at lower rpms and not stress out the motor is whats going to make it last. if you aren't towing, than I guess it doesn't really matter what motor you go with..
Darin, I tow almost every day with this truck @ around 4500 pounds and the truck barely knows its there.
My buddy pulled my trailer and the turbos have to kick in to move it. Yes the 3.5 engine with the EcoBoost can out tow my 5.0 by a little. But I would hate to replace those Turbos! I will take a naturally aspirated engine anyday over a boosted engine. The 5.0 engine has been around since the 1960's so it's been proven.
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Tom E. 11 vs 70 years. 70 years and Ford still can’t make a reliable vehicle. I have worked for both companies. Of course there are more F-150s on the road (or in the shop). But I’ve never seen a Ford with over 250k that drove nice or didn’t have half the truck rebuilt to get there. I saw Toyota’s with 600k+ all original on a daily basis that drove better then a band new Ford. When I worked at Ford, the entire underside of the trucks were all rust before they even made it off the delivery truck. Toyota has fixed their issues while Ford continues to ignore 90% of theirs. No brand is perfect, however Toyota is without a doubt worth every penny and will still run strong in 20 years. My 1980 Toyota pick up still passes smog and drives like new.
There are Fords still on the road going back to the 40s, millions of them! Show me those classic Yotas, yeah thought so, there arent any. Cause they rust apart before they reach 10 years of age.
Still driving my 2007 Tundra. 112k miles and zero issues. My last Ford truck was a maintenance nightmare costing me thousands out of pocket after the warranty expired. Toyota for the win!
LJOHNS123 still driving my 14 f150 5.0 with 105k. Still brand new. And mine are hard miles. What's your point? I'd sure hope your truck would be running well, since you've only put 11k a year on it. Might as well have been a golf cart.
1 point for every thousand lol. You should put 1 point on the Ford for every year the tundra stayed the same
Aaron G then 1 point for every year the Toyota outlasts the ford after it breaks down
Bought the F-150 once had to take it back 2 years later, Very PRETTY truck and has nice accessories no doubt but it is not a purse so who cares how pretty it is, the soft plastic and push to start isnt going to tow anything. Tundra to me has more of a RIGID look lifted it 8" threw a rigid industries grille looks amazing and does a hell of a job towing anything i need it to.
So after the ridiculous handicap you gave the Tundra, the F150 still came out on top. By the way, yes the 2018 haven't been tested by the IIHS or NHTSA yet, they're still structurally the same as the 2017s. The F150 is a Top Safety Pick and 5 star rated. The Tundra is neither. Know why the F150 is better? You get more features, better features, more configuration choices, more efficient engines and better safety. You complain that the F150 costs more but it's clear that you get more.
You're going to need that 5 star safety when the turbo gets vapor lock and goes into limp mode when you are driving 65 plus MPH and trying to pass another vehicle.
Get informed, ford eco-boost class action lawsuit.
King Daniel But can it take the abuse of a work truck is the qn.
Tundra is strong enough to tow space shuttle. Tundra went 1 million miles on one single engine without being rebuild. Tundra seat fabric didn't even worn-out after 1 million miles. Tundra frame lasted 1 million miles. Tundra cab corners lasted one million miles. Tundra exhaust manifold bolts lasted 1 million miles. Tundra engine lasted 1 million miles without blowing spark plugs. Tundra is the only million miles gas truck without problems. To many people focus on looks and forget that looks are deceiving. To many people call reliability is outdated, and favor issues as advanced technology. I know truth hurts, but it's reality.
Ford makes nice trucks but they use cheap components and motor which makes them unreliable the Toyota is much more reliable with all their parts