Thanks Tom, I know I had asked you for a video like this a few months ago. Thanks to Sweetwater for getting a Zoom PodTrak P8 out to you. Good luck to everyone in the giveaway! I'll be sticking to the Rodecaster Pro so I'm not entering :)
Great review! One thing to consider with the P8 is purchasing 90 degree adapters for the inputs. This really helps and helps route cables out the back of the unit.
Fantastic work! Well done! Specially because I am on a very low income these days (I do Uber & Lyft). However, I am really interested in finding another way to bring cash. That way, I can be more at home, thus near my 7 years old.
Ironically, at the very beginning, I started looking into mixers more because of wanting to bring more fun interaction between my son and I, during our English daily interactions. He still lives in Brazil with his mom, so we do everything through the internet. We started this since he was at the age of 3, when I left my country because the petroleum industry was very much affected by corruption scandals back then. All of a sudden, there were no more jobs there. Thank God, now things are much better and my son is already become good at English. Hopefully, another year or so, we all are going to live together.
I also want to add that your thoughtful decision on helping others by giving the Zoom PodTrak P8 is very, very honnerable. Take care!
Tom, every single time I view one of your videos, I am so jealous of what equipment you work with...this P8 would be a perfect first piece of equipment to launch a podcast curiousity and exciting move to start with. Well done review sir. Nice to see competition for the Rode.
Ahhh... to you point on portability if all the ins on top your can put it in case and have easier access to the ins and outs. @zoom should hire me for PR. 🤣
Could you make a Video abaut the dbx 286s or somthing like that. I see many pepole using it withe the SM7b and a Focusrite scarlett 2i2, but i dont konow what it does
I'm not sure if you mean computer monitor or audio monitor, but either way, I use a curved LG 34" ultrawide (their cheapest one) for my computer and I usually just use my headphones for audio. They're Meze 99Neos 👍
That's not something I was able to test while I had the unit, but maybe someone else will see this and be able to offer some info. I would hope there's no latency.
Are both of these products useable as a recording mixer for some band jam sessions? Having dedicated XLR inputs and headphone outputs and recording capabilities seems like a pretty useful option for bands.
I woudn‘t say so as it does not have line level inputs (for guitars, keyboards, etc). You can make it work with a 1/4“ to XLR cable AND a DI box for each line level input - but if band recording is the purpose the Zoom Liverrak L-8 is a way better option IMHO.
@@PodcastMeister Great advice. I'm in the market for a podcasting station like this and was hoping it could pull double duty. I've got all the DI's and stuff so I was very curious. The UI here seems really user-friendly.
@@AthanCondax it is indeed, but it is not geared towards musicians. The compressor is for instance fine to have but you‘ll potentially miss detailed eq and some effects, that you‘d never use for podcasting but are more important for recording music. Actually the Zoom L-8 hits two birds with one stone as you get the built-in mix minus for phones - sadly not for the USB-input though. And no UI whatsoever...
I talk about a lot of equipment, but I don't have a surplus of extra stuff unfortunately. In cases like this, Sweetwater helped me get something that could be used for a giveaway.
I could literally watch you review and compare drinking water and I would still be glued to the screen🤣. The way you shoot and edit your videos are so engaging. This review is soooooo good🔥🔥🔥... Also bro, thanks for jumping on last night, I appreciate you and Heather. 🙌🏾❤
Thanks man! I had a great time on the stream yesterday. I love that, even when a guest couldn't make it, you just rolled with it and made it work. That's awesome.
Nice one Tom! One thing I would have liked to see you talk about was the Noise Gate vs Noise Reduction between the rode and zoom. Also, are you concerned about the 16 bit 44.1khz limitation? Other than that you checked all the boxes!
That’s true. The 44.1 limit could be an issue for me since I often use it for video, which likes 48. If only there were another in-depth comparison people could watch 🤔😉
@@tombuck main reason why I went with the L-8. Might be more technical or intimidating for some but there will always be some upside an downside. I remember Curtis Judd talking about how he felt they stripped the P8 down where it didn’t need to be; I think he was referencing not having 48 but here’s hoping they help out those who’ll buy the P8. I’m going to be running my last test on the L-8 and see if I don’t end up going with the RCP but I’m mixing so many different mics and as always... combo jacks 😅 I also imagine the headphone inputs are about as noisey as the RCP. Thanks for the comparison video Tom. Edit: I referred to the wrong the device but have updated it a bit.
I have both of these. I run a podcast studio. Really wanted the rodecaster pro experience but with more mics as one of my studio has 4 mics and the other has 6 mic. So happy with the P8 pick up. Even used it with batteries when I went remote one time. I love both of these so much.
The fact that you talked about the headphone amp is amazing, it is so hard to find info on that for these guys. I think I'll go with the Zoom - the headphone amp & better mic preamp pretty much seal the deal for me, but there were a few other features that I liked better on it as well. Though I agree - I wish it had the inputs on the back, and bigger sliders.
An advantage of not having the P8's ports come out of the back is that it can slide right up to a wall and take up less tabletop space for those who have configurations like that.
I have been waiting to see this review for a few weeks and once again didn’t disappoint. Now I’m more pumped to start my sports podcast, and it would be amazing to own a great machine like the Zoom P8. I am ready to inspire others like you have inspired me to step out of my comfort zone. Thanks Tom
Great video as usual!! I know you’re incredibly busy but have you thought about doing a video on the Zoom Podtrak P4? Seems like a great low budget option, but I’d love to hear your thoughts.
Tom I noticed you really push the Rodecaster a lot in your videos. I know you did 1-2 on the Tascam Mixcast 4 but didn’t favorite much. However B&H Photo was blowing them out a couple weeks ago for $299 and on all honesty at that price the Mixcast 4 is the MUCH BETTER deal! Yeah I know not everyone may have gotten the Mixcast 4 at that price…I did and I feel MUCH BETTER knowing I didn’t spend $700 on the Rodecaster Pro 2!!! The Rodecaster doesn’t have THAT many more features than the Mixcast 4
299 is a really good deal on the Mixcast! The RCP2 is definitely more fully featured, but the Mixcast is the only one I found that was on par with the original RCP (and stronger in a few areas). I hope you enjoy it!
Hey Tom 👋🏽 great review, quick question I'm a mobile DJ. Can I use my Powered Speakers & add I continue a CD controller to this units ??? Thanks a million 😁... I would like use one of these, instead of a Mackie Pro FX10v3 mixer
I would definitely look into the RCPII which has better output functionality. You might need to run it through a DI before going to a bigger sound system, but it can get the job done.
1980s Casio dog barking for the win. 🐩. 😆. But in all seriousness this was an enjoyable and informative video. Thank you. Going to share your rodecaster pro playlist to a friend of mine who has one as is planning on using it for a podcast and is currently using it to record a modern radio-play. Thanks again for this chuckle. Stay safe and stay awesome. Gerry 🙃✌️
I unfollowed you after you said you went with the Corolla … hahahah I’m JK ! Bro thanks so much for the videos.. was really thinking which one to go with 🙏🏾
Hi, I use zoom h6 with the build-in mic recently I hear a humming sound when I set the gain between 3dh to 7 dB since you mentioned earlier that u used zoom products I wonder if you have any idea about that problem? thanks
A humming sound could be electrical interference. If you’re running on power from an outlet, or using it connected to a computer, double check or swap out the cables and see if that helps.
Hey Tom, not sure if you'd see this on an 8 month old video but I'd love to see you review the GoXLR and/or GoXLR mini by TC Helicon. Tons of streamers have them. I was highly considering the Rodecaster Pro but it's a bit out of my price range while the GoXLR is on sale for $400. Would like to hear your take
Has it been 8 months already?! I’ve never used the GoXLR myself, but I’ve heard great things. I love the on board recording features that both of these offer.
Hey Tom - love your channel! I did a review comparing an RME interface vs the Rode Caster Pro. Would love any feedback you have to offer on how to improve the content!!
Even with all the Dial-in packed on the Rodecaster pro channel strip, the zoom p8 sounds much more fuller with the on and off dial-in. Zoom P8 Sound really good but just don't like its plastic and Zoom should have rolled out an update to fix all the little flaws customer complain about, like numbering the level but it seems zoom really not good in fixing their flaws.
The Rodecaster Pro II is absolutely the best and definitely worth the price. That being said, sometimes the P8 or Mixcast 4 go on sale for really low prices, and they are super great too.
The p8 records lower quality files than the road caster which makes the road aster the winner. I love the p8 though, wish they didn’t skimp on the file types.
well I have other Zoom products so for you to diss the plastic the Rodcaster is also plastic and these are mostly to be left in one place in your studio, not a big deal, if you would strip away your little nags about stuff like that , maybe the Zoom is actually better than your Rode
It all depends. The RCP is objectively built better than the Zoom- there's a lot more metal and the plastic parts are of a higher quality. If they're sitting in a studio where that doesn't matter, then the Zoom definitely has some strengths. The added gain, while not being super quiet, is the biggest benefit. I love that! And more XLR inputs are great too. I do think the Tascam Mixcast 4 is a better overall unit that the Zoom, but in my own personal opinion, the RCP is still the best overall unit.
Almost everyone in my subbox: DJI Mavic Air 2S Tom: here is episode 18 on the Rodecaster Pro Me: Clicking on the Rodecaster Pro video, although I don‘t have any intention to do any podcast in the future, but I always enjoy these videos, because it truly shows your passion for the Rodecaster. Never seen someone on YT, who made so many videos on just one device. Btw, also awesome podcast episode about online courses 👍! The experience Heather shared is gold!
When they zig you zag, right? I thought I was done with Rodecaster videos, but then they did a firmware update and Sweetwater helped me do this giveaway, so I'm right back in it!
I'm a DJ from Trinidad and Tobago and would love to win this. I do have an address in the US that it can be shipped to if I'm chosen. Need this to upgrade the overall things I do on TH-cam, podcast productions and some live events. Love your videos and I've been checking your channel for this comparison. Thanks Tom
I will never buy a Broadcaster Pro again. I had two of them. The first one broke down two weeks after the purchase. Rode did not recognize the factory defect for five months. Replaced with a new one. A month later, on the second Broadcaster Pro, the touch display began to blink and a strong noise appeared in the first channel. Then there was a noise in the third channel. I live in Russia and we didn't have any spare parts to repair the Broadcaster Pro. Five months later, the spare parts arrived and it was repaired. After working for four months, there was a buzz on Channel 2. The Broadcaster Pro is the most unreliable audio mixer I've had in the last 30 years.
Love your videos, you inspire people to want to podcast! I am starting my podcast “The Shenanigan Show” next month and this would definitely take it to the next level... so 🤞🏻🤞🏻 lol
I don't think I would every travel with the P8. Unless it was local. I have the H6. I can't imagine a travel situation where the H6 wouldn't get the job done. Ive wanted the Rodecaster since it dropped for the studio. But the P8 is sure making its case.
@@tombuck it's an incredibly versatile machine! I've used it for everything from podcasts to short films. But with BNH recently having the P8 on sale plus just finding out my parent corporation has an employee discount with them...I just pulled the trigger on the P8! I'm sure I'll have all the same qualms as you. But, they all seem easy enough work around. Cable management, dont throw it against a wall, etc. :p
Tom, Here’s, IMO, where the language gets confusing for some viewers: When commenting that the Shure SM7B is ‘quiet’ after speaking about the ‘noise’ (noise floor). Ref. Given the same gain setting, the ‘noise’ emitted from the Shure SM7B is considerably louder than the Electro-Voice RE20. Why do I mention this?... My Question: Although the Zoom PodTrak P8 has 70dB of gain, I’m noticing that when the combined Compressor / De-essser (IMO they should not have combined these effects) is engaged, it adds a considerable amount of ‘noise.’ So, I’m curious to know (as I’ve never had the opportunity to use one), would/does a ‘mic activator’ used in conjunction with the Zoom PodTrak P8 lower the gain enough to compensate for the added ‘noise?’ Thanks, yYM
Very interested point. If I'm reading right, you're kind of saying "not all gain is created equal." That could be the benefit of still using a dedicated booster- loads of _clean_ gain.
@@tombuck Tom, Thanks for the reply. Yes. So, for example, we understand what ‘EIN’ is. But while the two units, the PodTrak P8 and TASCAM Mixcast 4, list their EIN at −124 dBu or less (+70dB/150Ω termination, LEVEL at max.) and −125 dBu or less (+66.5 dB/150Ω termination, LEVEL at max.) respectively, it might not necessarily be the case the TASCAM has better preamps / less EIN. Anyway… I was just curious if a mic activator might help clam the noise floor / compressor demons in the Zoom. On a side note: The TASCAM Mixcast 4 has become available for purchase. I created an account at TASCAM and downloaded the software for both the iPad and Mac (which is mandatory if you wish to do anything, including exporting multitrack WAV files. I.e., the unit does not export files except to the proprietary software). So although you might not have the unit to review, you can look at the software. Thanks, yYM
I think the P8 _can_ be used as an interface, but I had a tough time getting it to work reliably. The Rodecaster is simple plug and play and works great.
Hello Tom, can you tell me please if SM7B sound more quality on P8 or Rodecaster ? I use Rodecaster with SM7B and i need some extra high frequency. I think P8 can give me that option. Thank you 🙏 PS: I use those for broadcasting live.
The sound quality without any EQ will be pretty much the same. The difference will be in gain since you'll need a Cloudlifter with the Rodecaster for the SM7B, but you don't need one with the P8.
I think the P4 has to make some compromises because of its size. They likely had to use different components, but that small form factor is super cool.
Very nice alternative. Love my Rode though. I will not do the giveaway to give others in need a better chance. Pre grats to the winner. Welcome to the podcast world.
I find it unbelievable that after years of watching your content I have to disagree with you once! I cannot believe you chose a Toyota over a Honda!!! 😜
Honestly, my favourite car ever was my first car too: a ‘92 Honda Civic. That thing took my wife and me from one end of Europe to the other and back again... when it was 20 years old. One month later, a crash right next to our home killed it. It drove half way around the world, basically, only to die right there at home. A poetic gentleman, to the end.
Nicely done, sir! That 70dB of gain is sweeeeet. Quiet headphone monitoring is juicy. Top-mounted headphone and mic inputs is poopy. It's like the manufactures learn lessons from each other, but not everything they need to learn to create the one magic unicorn device to rule them all. *sigh* Having said that, I would be super delighted to be the lucky recipient of this awesome Zoom P8 :)
Just enter by Saturday! We're up to almost 200 people so far, so the odds aren't too bad really. "Juicy or Poopy" is a great tagline to put on a review thumbnail.
Hi there! If the P8 is plugget to a computer via the USB cable and if I've connected all 4 headphones, do all user hear the sound from the computer via the headphones? Cheers. 😀
As soon as this was announced, I was more interested in the p8 simply because it had the 2 extra XLR inputs and headphone inputs. I ended up going with a behringer 1820 interface and headphone rack mount solution (both were on sale. Saved over $100 each) but the form factor of the p8 makes it more interesting again.
6 inputs is awesome, and I know I said it a bunch in the video, but the amount of gain is incredible. It really does make a difference knowing you can use just about any mic with this thing.
@@tombuck that’s the main selling point honestly. I use an SM7B and the podmic. (As well as the re320) and the more gain the better. And this thing has a ton of it!
Hey TOM, great job on your channels... I got the rodecaster pro thanks to all of your tutorials and recommendations. I have a question about it though... I got mine a week and a half ago and it came with firmware version 2.1.1. I have kept on watching videos and tutorials from several other creators and noticed that version 2.1.0 beta had reverb as one of the processing effects but my rodecaster pro doesn't have that effect in it... did they remove it from version 2.1.1? is there any option i have to change for it to show up? and if it was removed...do you know if it is in the 2.1.2 beta version? I've been searching for those anwers but have failed to find them. Can you please enlighten me? Thanks in advance.
Hey! Congrats on the new gear! For some reason they did remove the reverb after the beta and it hasn’t been back since. It was an awesome effect and I’m hoping we’ll see it again. Rode is pretty responsive to the community, so I always encourage people to send in their feedback for things like this 👍
@@tombuck thank you Tom... I'll contact them and mention how much we want that feature. Hey keep the great job... I'm sure your channel will be huge... I see it above the million followers in the near future. That's how Good your content is! By the way... Have you have heard anything about the possibility of a parametric eq added in the future?
At 24:00 in I realized something. It seems to me they built the P8 to live in some type of Pelican case. Slap in batteries and a card, drop in a hard case, off you go. All cables are easy access up top. Hmmm.
I have the PodTrak P4 and I absolutely love it!! I would definitely enjoy having the P8 to expand my capabilities and options. I entered to win and look forward to congratulating the winner…even if it’s me. Love your channel. Great content and excellent quality
I have the rodecast and I love it, but when I bought it there was no other option for an all in one solution. I think if I were to buy now it would be a very long thought over process trying decide between these two but would probably have gone with the P8 due to the cost savings of not having to pick up the cloud lifter for my SM7B's
That's a _huge_ benefit. They're both great, but I really do love the Rodecaster. I think the firmware updates are huge too, and I have a feeling that Zoom won't be as active with theirs as Rode. The rodecaster has been reinvented several times since release, and that's awesome.
@@tombuck I loved the small things you picked apart i.e. soft push buttons, cords over the top. You made my choice for these small things covered :) Thanks!
I tried connecting my zoom podtrak to my atem mini pro. However the Blackmagic software is not recognizing the connection? Any advice on how i can get my gear connected.
Tom, I find myself consistently shaking my head at every one of your puns. I think it's because I find myself walking right into them only to chuckle in appreciation of their simplistic brilliance. Keep it up.
I would love either of these however I won't buy one due to the lack of Xlr-1/4" combo. I do way too much with music and musicians to purchase an interface that requires converters. The stress on inputs from the lack of cord relief kills its shelf life (one reason I dig the top input over rear connection). Both of these are awesome, but why not just throw on the instrument input. I'd buy one tomorrow.
I LOVE those combo inputs. And it’s funny you bring that up because Zoom has used them a lot in the past. I wonder is the Livetrak L8 has them since it’s geared more towards music?
@@tombuck there just be something in the engineering/electrical I don't understand because Zoom had combo inputs on everything. It would be a one-up on the Rodecaster if it had combo inputs. Focusrite should come out with Rodecaster competitor, they would murder it.
@@tombuck LOL Tom you know me... again why I went with the L-8. Versatility: I have some of the same gripes with the product though. Having to track my clicks and no beautiful screen like the P-8 and RCP. Cheers!
Yeah, sorry you didn't find it sooner! Now that more time has passed, I would definitely recommend checking out the Rodecaster Pro 2 if you don't need 6 XLR inputs.
I wish road would make a smaller version of the road castle one that can compete with the zoom h8 but with only two XLR ports I just want something to replace my zoom H5 and when it comes to being a portable production but still have a like all of the solid features of the road and come from the build quality of the road done that maybe they'll listen to you and it will make a portable version of the broadcaster
we have the podtrak, my wife runs the board on a table in front of the interview table. so the cords run under that table and over to her's, so none of the cables are in the way of the board, also with your mics being right there next to the board, the clicky button sounds may be picked up where as our mic's are a good three feet away. we use a cord for the phone calls, we don't want to rely on the blutooth possibly dropping a call. I did notice that with the shure mic you have much more bass in your voice through the podtrak as opposed to the rode mic that sounds kinda thin. We're just starting but some day would love to have that mic. We bought our podtrak from amazon, they offered us their credit card and as a bonus to having it they gave us another 100 dollars off the podtrak, so it only cost us 399.00. Really enjoyed your video and learned a lot. Subscribed. Thanks.
Course comes out the first week of May! It’s all finished and the group of people who preordered it are beta testing at the moment before its public release 👍 I’m really proud of it.
Great review! Best one I've found on youtube. So I've been podcasting with the Zoom for a couple months now and I gotta say I'm so glad I got the Zoom over the rodecaster! I don't think the Zoom is inherently better than the Rode, just a more Professional device overall... The biggest thing I like is how everything can be adjusted on the device itself no need for software. From what ive heard from Professional audio guys for live events, the size of Faders doesn't totally matter, what matters more is the inputs for headphones and mic inputs are clearly visible on the top of the board, that way you have a clear visual of what's connected and what's not (most audio boards are built like this for that reason). Overall I think the Rode is not bad but focused more on aesthetics instead of making the best professional board available. I think it's a complete mistake/miss that they don't have at least 70db of gain to power most pro condenser microphones. I mean more mic inputs, better filing system, power options, CHEAPER. I'd rather skip aesthetics for a better long-term investment. Again great content!
The US only comment broke my heart ❤️:(... great show! Toms minutes are the fastest minutes on the whole web! Really really really good honest and fair comparison video. Well planned, great value of information, to the point, The content in the frame is eye candy, the audio = ear candy...Very entertaining and as always very funny!
I actually like plugging into different channels on top of the mixer instead of the back. Puts me into mad-scientist mode. Especially when recording live. Ha.
Tom, you made me feel better about the open box Zoom P8 I just ordered for $279. Minimal investment for dipping my toe in this arena. Once again, you provided another great review. Thank you!
Chapter Markers:
0:00 - A Wild Competitor Appears
0:50 - Disclosures
2:00 - Zoom P8 Unboxing
2:28 - My Experience with Zoom
3:16 - Clicky Buttons
3:48 - Basic Feature Comparison
5:25 - Color Coded Simplicity
6:54 - Zoom P8 Initial Sound Test
7:45 - Touch Screen Interface
9:30 - Transferring Files to Computer
10:10 - P8 Sound Pads
12:23 - USB Sources & Mix Minus
13:11 - The Insane Gain of the P8
14:20 - PodMic Gain Level Test
15:06 - SM7B Gain Level Test (Incredible!)
18:08 - Zoom P8 Battery Test
20:39 - Pros & Cons of Each Device
22:32 - Firmware Updates
23:00 - The P8’s Biggest Weakness
24:14 - My P8 Impressions
26:55 - More About the Rodecaster
Thanks Tom, I know I had asked you for a video like this a few months ago. Thanks to Sweetwater for getting a Zoom PodTrak P8 out to you. Good luck to everyone in the giveaway! I'll be sticking to the Rodecaster Pro so I'm not entering :)
Hey Tom just write it in the description for proper chapters. Cheers mate.
@Tom Buck did "da Winnah" make a Thank You Tom video!?!?!?
What an amazing video! Can we just celebrate the time and effort Tom puts into these videos? *slow clap* 👏.👏.👏. Great stuff!
Thank you! You’re too kind!
Great review! One thing to consider with the P8 is purchasing 90 degree adapters for the inputs. This really helps and helps route cables out the back of the unit.
That’s a GREAT idea. 👍
Fantastic work! Well done! Specially because I am on a very low income these days (I do Uber & Lyft). However, I am really interested in finding another way to bring cash. That way, I can be more at home, thus near my 7 years old.
Ironically, at the very beginning, I started looking into mixers more because of wanting to bring more fun interaction between my son and I, during our English daily interactions. He still lives in Brazil with his mom, so we do everything through the internet. We started this since he was at the age of 3, when I left my country because the petroleum industry was very much affected by corruption scandals back then. All of a sudden, there were no more jobs there. Thank God, now things are much better and my son is already become good at English. Hopefully, another year or so, we all are going to live together.
I also want to add that your thoughtful decision on helping others by giving the Zoom PodTrak P8 is very, very honnerable. Take care!
Literally ordered the Rodecaster 1h ago thanks to your countless number of videos about it. Never been this scared to see a TH-cam review before....
Haha, don't worry, I don't plan on making an "I'm Switching" video any time soon. You'll love your Rodecaster!
Tom, every single time I view one of your videos, I am so jealous of what equipment you work with...this P8 would be a perfect first piece of equipment to launch a podcast curiousity and exciting move to start with. Well done review sir. Nice to see competition for the Rode.
Thank you! And I agree, competition like this is good for everyone.
No issue with headphone preamps here on my Rodecaster.
Ahhh... to you point on portability if all the ins on top your can put it in case and have easier access to the ins and outs. @zoom should hire me for PR. 🤣
Oooh, very true!
Could you make a Video abaut the dbx 286s or somthing like that. I see many pepole using it withe the SM7b and a Focusrite scarlett 2i2, but i dont konow what it does
I don't have one, but the DBX is a mic preamp, basically a bigger, beefier version of a Cloudlifter to boost the mic's signal. 👍
Great video Tom! I was wondering what monitor you used in this video and what monitor do you usually use? Thanks :)
I'm not sure if you mean computer monitor or audio monitor, but either way, I use a curved LG 34" ultrawide (their cheapest one) for my computer and I usually just use my headphones for audio. They're Meze 99Neos 👍
@@tombuck hahahah sorry, I meant the computer monitor 😊
Are there any latency issues with a quality headphone using a Blueto adapter unit on the zoom podtrak??
That's not something I was able to test while I had the unit, but maybe someone else will see this and be able to offer some info. I would hope there's no latency.
Hey tom thanks for the amazing review. But I would like to ask if it works for obs?
Yep! Both of them do.
@@tombuck Thanks Tom!
Are both of these products useable as a recording mixer for some band jam sessions? Having dedicated XLR inputs and headphone outputs and recording capabilities seems like a pretty useful option for bands.
I woudn‘t say so as it does not have line level inputs (for guitars, keyboards, etc). You can make it work with a 1/4“ to XLR cable AND a DI box for each line level input - but if band recording is the purpose the Zoom Liverrak L-8 is a way better option IMHO.
@@PodcastMeister Great advice. I'm in the market for a podcasting station like this and was hoping it could pull double duty. I've got all the DI's and stuff so I was very curious. The UI here seems really user-friendly.
This is great advice!
@@AthanCondax it is indeed, but it is not geared towards musicians. The compressor is for instance fine to have but you‘ll potentially miss detailed eq and some effects, that you‘d never use for podcasting but are more important for recording music. Actually the Zoom L-8 hits two birds with one stone as you get the built-in mix minus for phones - sadly not for the USB-input though. And no UI whatsoever...
So can you donate some of the stuff you don’t use to my church as we embark on our podcast for our church? Hey I’m just asking🤷🏾♂️🤷🏾♂️
I talk about a lot of equipment, but I don't have a surplus of extra stuff unfortunately. In cases like this, Sweetwater helped me get something that could be used for a giveaway.
The Audio Quality sounds fuller and richer on the Zoom.
I liked it, it definitely has a great sound.
I could literally watch you review and compare drinking water and I would still be glued to the screen🤣. The way you shoot and edit your videos are so engaging. This review is soooooo good🔥🔥🔥... Also bro, thanks for jumping on last night, I appreciate you and Heather. 🙌🏾❤
Thanks man! I had a great time on the stream yesterday. I love that, even when a guest couldn't make it, you just rolled with it and made it work. That's awesome.
Dude, the opening introductions are getting really poetic!! LOL 😂🤣
They’re taking more and more work, haha 😁
I agree! the intro was great!
Just watching this video makes me want to start a podcast!
You should! It’s super rewarding and absolutely worth it.
What if I want both? :)
You can connect one to the other and gain super powers!
@@tombuck Yeah! You forgot, "Affiliate linkS below!" :)
Oh yeah! By two from each link!
Nice one Tom! One thing I would have liked to see you talk about was the Noise Gate vs Noise Reduction between the rode and zoom. Also, are you concerned about the 16 bit 44.1khz limitation? Other than that you checked all the boxes!
That’s true. The 44.1 limit could be an issue for me since I often use it for video, which likes 48.
If only there were another in-depth comparison people could watch 🤔😉
@@tombuck main reason why I went with the L-8.
Might be more technical or intimidating for some but there will always be some upside an downside. I remember Curtis Judd talking about how he felt they stripped the P8 down where it didn’t need to be; I think he was referencing not having 48 but here’s hoping they help out those who’ll buy the P8.
I’m going to be running my last test on the L-8 and see if I don’t end up going with the RCP but I’m mixing so many different mics and as always... combo jacks 😅 I also imagine the headphone inputs are about as noisey as the RCP.
Thanks for the comparison video Tom.
Edit: I referred to the wrong the device but have updated it a bit.
This is good to hear- I’ve been wondering about the differences between the P8 and the L8.
I have both of these. I run a podcast studio. Really wanted the rodecaster pro experience but with more mics as one of my studio has 4 mics and the other has 6 mic. So happy with the P8 pick up. Even used it with batteries when I went remote one time. I love both of these so much.
That’s cool to hear! Sounds like it was definitely the right choice 👍
The fact that you talked about the headphone amp is amazing, it is so hard to find info on that for these guys.
I think I'll go with the Zoom - the headphone amp & better mic preamp pretty much seal the deal for me, but there were a few other features that I liked better on it as well.
Though I agree - I wish it had the inputs on the back, and bigger sliders.
The clean headphone amps are super nice and a big improvement over the Rodecaster.
An advantage of not having the P8's ports come out of the back is that it can slide right up to a wall and take up less tabletop space for those who have configurations like that.
Loads of puns within the first 20 secs, amazing! Very good comparizon Tom!
Gotta set up the "hook" with these intros, you know.
Yuuuup. Had me at the gains pun 👊🏼
Enjoyed!!
I have been waiting to see this review for a few weeks and once again didn’t disappoint. Now I’m more pumped to start my sports podcast, and it would be amazing to own a great machine like the Zoom P8. I am ready to inspire others like you have inspired me to step out of my comfort zone. Thanks Tom
Good luck with your show! It's realyl fun and rewarding to have a podcast.
sm7b sounds so much better on your vocals in my opinion - thanks for the video bro!
Great video as usual!! I know you’re incredibly busy but have you thought about doing a video on the Zoom Podtrak P4? Seems like a great low budget option, but I’d love to hear your thoughts.
It seems awesome! I actually did preorder one when it first came out, but cancelled the order since I didn’t really NEED it.
I completely understand, thanks for the reply!
Tom I noticed you really push the Rodecaster a lot in your videos. I know you did 1-2 on the Tascam Mixcast 4 but didn’t favorite much. However B&H Photo was blowing them out a couple weeks ago for $299 and on all honesty at that price the Mixcast 4 is the MUCH BETTER deal! Yeah I know not everyone may have gotten the Mixcast 4 at that price…I did and I feel MUCH BETTER knowing I didn’t spend $700 on the Rodecaster Pro 2!!! The Rodecaster doesn’t have THAT many more features than the Mixcast 4
299 is a really good deal on the Mixcast! The RCP2 is definitely more fully featured, but the Mixcast is the only one I found that was on par with the original RCP (and stronger in a few areas). I hope you enjoy it!
Tying my brain in knots again with the puns and alliteration
You're welcome and/or I'm sorry.
Hey Tom 👋🏽 great review, quick question
I'm a mobile DJ. Can I use my Powered Speakers & add I continue a CD controller to this units ??? Thanks a million 😁...
I would like use one of these, instead of a Mackie Pro FX10v3 mixer
I would definitely look into the RCPII which has better output functionality. You might need to run it through a DI before going to a bigger sound system, but it can get the job done.
1980s Casio dog barking for the win. 🐩. 😆. But in all seriousness this was an enjoyable and informative video. Thank you. Going to share your rodecaster pro playlist to a friend of mine who has one as is planning on using it for a podcast and is currently using it to record a modern radio-play. Thanks again for this chuckle. Stay safe and stay awesome. Gerry 🙃✌️
Thanks Gerry! Can't get enough of the Casio!
Dude, I'm cracking up and I'm only :38 in.
Now that's what I like to hear.
It may be ridiculous, but the clicky buttons tips it in favour of the Rodecaster for me.
I don't think that's ridiculous at all! It would bother me every time I clicked them.
I unfollowed you after you said you went with the Corolla … hahahah I’m JK ! Bro thanks so much for the videos.. was really thinking which one to go with 🙏🏾
Haha, hey I've gotten 200K Corolla miles over the years! But now I've got a super fancy RAV4. I know I know, try to contain your excitement.
Hi, I use zoom h6 with the build-in mic recently I hear a humming sound when I set the gain between 3dh to 7 dB since you mentioned earlier that u used zoom products I wonder if you have any idea about that problem? thanks
A humming sound could be electrical interference. If you’re running on power from an outlet, or using it connected to a computer, double check or swap out the cables and see if that helps.
Hey Tom, not sure if you'd see this on an 8 month old video but I'd love to see you review the GoXLR and/or GoXLR mini by TC Helicon. Tons of streamers have them. I was highly considering the Rodecaster Pro but it's a bit out of my price range while the GoXLR is on sale for $400. Would like to hear your take
Has it been 8 months already?! I’ve never used the GoXLR myself, but I’ve heard great things. I love the on board recording features that both of these offer.
The deal breaker for me is the huge gain in the podtrak p8.... the cleaner the signal the better...
Yep, all gain is not created equal.
Hey Tom - love your channel! I did a review comparing an RME interface vs the Rode Caster Pro. Would love any feedback you have to offer on how to improve the content!!
Hey Michael! Your channel is really great- have you only been at it for a month or so? The videos are so great. I love the audio-centric ones. 🙌
@@tombuck Thank you Tom! Yes - only a month. I have more videos coming soon on additional mic's and gear. Thank you sooo much for the feedback!
Voice quality was better with the P8 regardless of microphone. I'm glad I saw this video, I'm going to purchase the p8.
I hope you enjoy it! It's a super nice mixer.
Even with all the Dial-in packed on the Rodecaster pro channel strip, the zoom p8 sounds much more fuller with the on and off dial-in. Zoom P8 Sound really good but just don't like its plastic and Zoom should have rolled out an update to fix all the little flaws customer complain about, like numbering the level but it seems zoom really not good in fixing their flaws.
Do you think is more better than rodecaster pro..bucouse I don't know for podcast which one is better for the good sound 🔉.. . Thanks
The Rodecaster Pro II is absolutely the best and definitely worth the price.
That being said, sometimes the P8 or Mixcast 4 go on sale for really low prices, and they are super great too.
@@tombuck thanks alot
The p8 records lower quality files than the road caster which makes the road aster the winner. I love the p8 though, wish they didn’t skimp on the file types.
I love the RCP. I wish Zoom would update the P8 with some firmware, but I'm not holding my breath for that to happen.
Isnt 44.1khz a issue if i plan to use it as an audio interface for live video streaming? Video will be coming from an Atem Mini Pro
Yes, great point! It's not the end of the world, but not ideal for video work.
Tom, I loved your showdown video! I recently purchased the Podtrak P8 as well as the P4.
Nice! Hope you're enjoying both of them!
Can you believe such a vast India doesn't have access to P8 here....only Rodecaster ...in your language..all Road leads to Rode ..bro
Haha, at least it's not a bad road to be on! 😁
Need this, ImDealingWith podcast.....If not me, then congrats to the prospective winner in advanced...best wishes to all
well I have other Zoom products so for you to diss the plastic the Rodcaster is also plastic and these are mostly to be left in one place in your studio, not a big deal, if you would strip away your little nags about stuff like that , maybe the Zoom is actually better than your Rode
It all depends. The RCP is objectively built better than the Zoom- there's a lot more metal and the plastic parts are of a higher quality.
If they're sitting in a studio where that doesn't matter, then the Zoom definitely has some strengths. The added gain, while not being super quiet, is the biggest benefit. I love that! And more XLR inputs are great too. I do think the Tascam Mixcast 4 is a better overall unit that the Zoom, but in my own personal opinion, the RCP is still the best overall unit.
Almost everyone in my subbox: DJI Mavic Air 2S
Tom: here is episode 18 on the Rodecaster Pro
Me: Clicking on the Rodecaster Pro video, although I don‘t have any intention to do any podcast in the future, but I always enjoy these videos, because it truly shows your passion for the Rodecaster. Never seen someone on YT, who made so many videos on just one device.
Btw, also awesome podcast episode about online courses 👍! The experience Heather shared is gold!
When they zig you zag, right? I thought I was done with Rodecaster videos, but then they did a firmware update and Sweetwater helped me do this giveaway, so I'm right back in it!
Great comparison. Zoom p8 only support 16- bit recording. This is definitely a downside.
Very true! The Rodecaster offers more versatility there.
I'm a DJ from Trinidad and Tobago and would love to win this. I do have an address in the US that it can be shipped to if I'm chosen. Need this to upgrade the overall things I do on TH-cam, podcast productions and some live events. Love your videos and I've been checking your channel for this comparison. Thanks Tom
Be sure to enter by Saturday! Good luck!
I will never buy a Broadcaster Pro again. I had two of them. The first one broke down two weeks after the purchase. Rode did not recognize the factory defect for five months. Replaced with a new one. A month later, on the second Broadcaster Pro, the touch display began to blink and a strong noise appeared in the first channel. Then there was a noise in the third channel. I live in Russia and we didn't have any spare parts to repair the Broadcaster Pro. Five months later, the spare parts arrived and it was repaired. After working for four months, there was a buzz on Channel 2. The Broadcaster Pro is the most unreliable audio mixer I've had in the last 30 years.
I'm sorry to hear you had such a crummy experience
Love your videos, you inspire people to want to podcast! I am starting my podcast “The Shenanigan Show” next month and this would definitely take it to the next level... so 🤞🏻🤞🏻 lol
If the Rodecaster had slightly better preamps and a full sized SD card, it would be unbeatable.
I would love both of those things. 🤤
hate to be picky but the xlr connector on the face of the unit. Deal breaker
Nothing wrong with being picky when it comes to selecting the tools you need to use 👍
I don't think I would every travel with the P8. Unless it was local. I have the H6. I can't imagine a travel situation where the H6 wouldn't get the job done. Ive wanted the Rodecaster since it dropped for the studio. But the P8 is sure making its case.
The H6 really is an awesome little recorder. They knocked it out of the park with that one.
@@tombuck it's an incredibly versatile machine! I've used it for everything from podcasts to short films. But with BNH recently having the P8 on sale plus just finding out my parent corporation has an employee discount with them...I just pulled the trigger on the P8! I'm sure I'll have all the same qualms as you. But, they all seem easy enough work around. Cable management, dont throw it against a wall, etc. :p
Tom,
Here’s, IMO, where the language gets confusing for some viewers: When commenting that the Shure SM7B is ‘quiet’ after speaking about the ‘noise’ (noise floor). Ref. Given the same gain setting, the ‘noise’ emitted from the Shure SM7B is considerably louder than the Electro-Voice RE20. Why do I mention this?...
My Question:
Although the Zoom PodTrak P8 has 70dB of gain, I’m noticing that when the combined Compressor / De-essser (IMO they should not have combined these effects) is engaged, it adds a considerable amount of ‘noise.’ So, I’m curious to know (as I’ve never had the opportunity to use one), would/does a ‘mic activator’ used in conjunction with the Zoom PodTrak P8 lower the gain enough to compensate for the added ‘noise?’
Thanks,
yYM
Very interested point. If I'm reading right, you're kind of saying "not all gain is created equal." That could be the benefit of still using a dedicated booster- loads of _clean_ gain.
@@tombuck Tom,
Thanks for the reply. Yes.
So, for example, we understand what ‘EIN’ is. But while the two units, the PodTrak P8 and TASCAM Mixcast 4, list their EIN at −124 dBu or less (+70dB/150Ω termination, LEVEL at max.) and −125 dBu or less (+66.5 dB/150Ω termination, LEVEL at max.) respectively, it might not necessarily be the case the TASCAM has better preamps / less EIN. Anyway…
I was just curious if a mic activator might help clam the noise floor / compressor demons in the Zoom.
On a side note: The TASCAM Mixcast 4 has become available for purchase. I created an account at TASCAM and downloaded the software for both the iPad and Mac (which is mandatory if you wish to do anything, including exporting multitrack WAV files. I.e., the unit does not export files except to the proprietary software). So although you might not have the unit to review, you can look at the software.
Thanks,
yYM
Can this be used as a actual audio interface? Will it playback while recording on another track?
I think the P8 _can_ be used as an interface, but I had a tough time getting it to work reliably. The Rodecaster is simple plug and play and works great.
I came for the product comparison, but I stayed for the Aquabats poster
All is going according to plan.
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26:24 I live in germany. Mist..
I wish I could ship international! If I get to do another giveaway in the future, I'll find a way to make it possible.
Hello Tom, can you tell me please if SM7B sound more quality on P8 or Rodecaster ? I use Rodecaster with SM7B and i need some extra high frequency. I think P8 can give me that option. Thank you 🙏 PS: I use those for broadcasting live.
The sound quality without any EQ will be pretty much the same. The difference will be in gain since you'll need a Cloudlifter with the Rodecaster for the SM7B, but you don't need one with the P8.
@@tombuck So, if u put Cloudlifter on Rodecaster will be more quality on my SM7B ? Thank you !
It’s a very quiet mic that needs a lot of gain to sound it’s best.
@@tombuck Thank you for answer. So, Rodecaster Pro is not enough for give me a good gain for SM7B ?
Hi My name is Nebyou from Ethiopia, so what's new about zoom P8?
Nothing has changed since I made this video, so everything you see here about the Zoom is still up to date 👍
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interesting vid! it seems the headphone amps on the p8 are great opposed to the p4. I have the p4 and they are noisyyyyyyyyy
I think the P4 has to make some compromises because of its size. They likely had to use different components, but that small form factor is super cool.
Very nice alternative. Love my Rode though. I will not do the giveaway to give others in need a better chance. Pre grats to the winner. Welcome to the podcast world.
Good man
You're too kind! Hopefully the winner really puts it to good use.
Which product out there would combine the best of both worlds if you get your ways?
If I could take the 75db of gain and super clean headphone preamps of the P8 and put those in the Rodecaster, it'd basically be the perfect device.
I find it unbelievable that after years of watching your content I have to disagree with you once! I cannot believe you chose a Toyota over a Honda!!! 😜
Haha, my first car was a Toyota, so I'm biased. I've actually only ever had Toyotas 😬
Pfff. You and I are officially over.
Honestly, my favourite car ever was my first car too: a ‘92 Honda Civic. That thing took my wife and me from one end of Europe to the other and back again... when it was 20 years old. One month later, a crash right next to our home killed it.
It drove half way around the world, basically, only to die right there at home. A poetic gentleman, to the end.
Great review. This made my purchasing decision less stressful after having your impartial professional insight.
Im glad to hear that! Hopefully you get what works for you 👍
Nicely done, sir! That 70dB of gain is sweeeeet. Quiet headphone monitoring is juicy. Top-mounted headphone and mic inputs is poopy. It's like the manufactures learn lessons from each other, but not everything they need to learn to create the one magic unicorn device to rule them all. *sigh* Having said that, I would be super delighted to be the lucky recipient of this awesome Zoom P8 :)
Just enter by Saturday! We're up to almost 200 people so far, so the odds aren't too bad really. "Juicy or Poopy" is a great tagline to put on a review thumbnail.
@@tombuck Already entered! I think I'll stick to my doughnut rating system for my reviews ;)
Hi there!
If the P8 is plugget to a computer via the USB cable and if I've connected all 4 headphones, do all user hear the sound from the computer via the headphones?
Cheers. 😀
Yes they should if you have your computer's audio running into the USB channel. 👍
@@tombuck okey, sounds neat. Thank you so much. :)
As soon as this was announced, I was more interested in the p8 simply because it had the 2 extra XLR inputs and headphone inputs. I ended up going with a behringer 1820 interface and headphone rack mount solution (both were on sale. Saved over $100 each) but the form factor of the p8 makes it more interesting again.
6 inputs is awesome, and I know I said it a bunch in the video, but the amount of gain is incredible. It really does make a difference knowing you can use just about any mic with this thing.
@@tombuck that’s the main selling point honestly. I use an SM7B and the podmic. (As well as the re320) and the more gain the better. And this thing has a ton of it!
Sweetwater is the best. They pack my orders with candy!
Right?! They're awesome.
Naw fa real.. I got that lil pack of candy and was like I like this place.. ill definitely order from them just because lol
@@seanjohnthesneakerdon5068 LOL!
I should become an American citizen, just for the giveaways. Canada keeps getting shafted lol
I know, I wish I could ship international, but I’ve done it a few times in the last year and it’s been a nightmare everytime 🤦🏻♂️
@@tombuck I don't blame you at all. I'm all set, I have the rodecaster pro already.
Hey TOM, great job on your channels... I got the rodecaster pro thanks to all of your tutorials and recommendations. I have a question about it though... I got mine a week and a half ago and it came with firmware version 2.1.1.
I have kept on watching videos and tutorials from several other creators and noticed that version 2.1.0 beta had reverb as one of the processing effects but my rodecaster pro doesn't have that effect in it... did they remove it from version 2.1.1? is there any option i have to change for it to show up? and if it was removed...do you know if it is in the 2.1.2 beta version? I've been searching for those anwers but have failed to find them. Can you please enlighten me? Thanks in advance.
Hey! Congrats on the new gear! For some reason they did remove the reverb after the beta and it hasn’t been back since. It was an awesome effect and I’m hoping we’ll see it again. Rode is pretty responsive to the community, so I always encourage people to send in their feedback for things like this 👍
@@tombuck thank you Tom... I'll contact them and mention how much we want that feature. Hey keep the great job... I'm sure your channel will be huge... I see it above the million followers in the near future. That's how Good your content is! By the way... Have you have heard anything about the possibility of a parametric eq added in the future?
I haven’t heard about that, but it’d be very nice to have. Thank you for the kind words!
At 24:00 in I realized something. It seems to me they built the P8 to live in some type of Pelican case.
Slap in batteries and a card, drop in a hard case, off you go. All cables are easy access up top.
Hmmm.
That would make a lot of sense and would keep it protected. I still would've liked to see better build quality though!
@@tombuck yup, agreed.. Prolly how they cut that $100 off the Rodecaster.
I have the PodTrak P4 and I absolutely love it!! I would definitely enjoy having the P8 to expand my capabilities and options. I entered to win and look forward to congratulating the winner…even if it’s me. Love your channel. Great content and excellent quality
Thank you and good luck! I’ll select the winner tomorrow morning 👍
cloudlifter killer. Yeah Baby. Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeaaah. This is what we all need.
It really is a huge feature-they should promote it more!
I like your review. Sho Yaa Rite
I got the zoom. SO HAPPY WITH IT. 2 extra inputs is a HUGE deal
I'm so glad to hear it! It's great to know that's it's working out from someone who's been working with it for a while.
Wow, extensive overview! Very nice!
Also the fact that you hit the wrong key around the 10:17 mark and it was THAT sound is just amazing lol
Totally serendipitous.
Thank you I've been waiting for you to review and compare these
I have the rodecast and I love it, but when I bought it there was no other option for an all in one solution. I think if I were to buy now it would be a very long thought over process trying decide between these two but would probably have gone with the P8 due to the cost savings of not having to pick up the cloud lifter for my SM7B's
That's a _huge_ benefit. They're both great, but I really do love the Rodecaster. I think the firmware updates are huge too, and I have a feeling that Zoom won't be as active with theirs as Rode. The rodecaster has been reinvented several times since release, and that's awesome.
hello Tom, where do you buy your xrl elbow on the podmic at 1:54 please ?
I just searched up "90 degree XLR adapter on Amazon and these popped up in a 2 pack.
Tom, great job as always! May you please review the Zoom P4? 🙏🏽
I've never used the P4 myself yet, but from what I know it's pretty awesome Curtis Judd has an excellent video on it that I definitely recommend.
That moment when you want to enter a contest but find it’s 9 months too late. 😖
Was just starting to look at both of these devices for podcasting.
Yeah, that's always the bummer about doing any sort of giveaway! Hopefully the person who got it is still enjoying it though!
@@tombuck I loved the small things you picked apart i.e. soft push buttons, cords over the top. You made my choice for these small things covered :)
Thanks!
I tried connecting my zoom podtrak to my atem mini pro. However the Blackmagic software is not recognizing the connection? Any advice on how i can get my gear connected.
Tom, I find myself consistently shaking my head at every one of your puns. I think it's because I find myself walking right into them only to chuckle in appreciation of their simplistic brilliance. Keep it up.
Each pun is it's own journey 😁
I would love either of these however I won't buy one due to the lack of Xlr-1/4" combo. I do way too much with music and musicians to purchase an interface that requires converters. The stress on inputs from the lack of cord relief kills its shelf life (one reason I dig the top input over rear connection). Both of these are awesome, but why not just throw on the instrument input. I'd buy one tomorrow.
I LOVE those combo inputs. And it’s funny you bring that up because Zoom has used them a lot in the past. I wonder is the Livetrak L8 has them since it’s geared more towards music?
@@tombuck there just be something in the engineering/electrical I don't understand because Zoom had combo inputs on everything. It would be a one-up on the Rodecaster if it had combo inputs. Focusrite should come out with Rodecaster competitor, they would murder it.
That would be crazy if they entered the market! Zoom always makes some baffling decisions and I’ll never understand it.
@@tombuck LOL Tom you know me... again why I went with the L-8. Versatility: I have some of the same gripes with the product though. Having to track my clicks and no beautiful screen like the P-8 and RCP.
Cheers!
Damn he said giving away I look up how long this video was and it was a year ago 🥲 thinking about getting the P8
Yeah, sorry you didn't find it sooner! Now that more time has passed, I would definitely recommend checking out the Rodecaster Pro 2 if you don't need 6 XLR inputs.
@@tombuck great thanks man we just purchased the podtrak p4 we r barely starting up so just trying to figure my way around 🤣🙌🏽
You should look at the Klark Teknik CT1 mic booster. It is as good if not better than the Cloudlifter, at only $25!
I ordered one, but I'm on a waitlist! I'd love to find an inexpensive option because then it makes things much more accessible.
@@tombuck Here in Norway they are readily available. :)
@@tombuck Agreed, there is no reason why this simple circuitry should be so expensive.
I wish road would make a smaller version of the road castle one that can compete with the zoom h8 but with only two XLR ports I just want something to replace my zoom H5 and when it comes to being a portable production but still have a like all of the solid features of the road and come from the build quality of the road done that maybe they'll listen to you and it will make a portable version of the broadcaster
I've heard this same request from a lot of people. I wonder if they have any interest in making something like that?
Did the clicky buttons make a difference?
I'm not a fan, but they're probably not going to drive your audience crazy.
we have the podtrak, my wife runs the board on a table in front of the interview table. so the cords run under that table and over to her's, so none of the cables are in the way of the board, also with your mics being right there next to the board, the clicky button sounds may be picked up where as our mic's are a good three feet away. we use a cord for the phone calls, we don't want to rely on the blutooth possibly dropping a call. I did notice that with the shure mic you have much more bass in your voice through the podtrak as opposed to the rode mic that sounds kinda thin. We're just starting but some day would love to have that mic. We bought our podtrak from amazon, they offered us their credit card and as a bonus to having it they gave us another 100 dollars off the podtrak, so it only cost us 399.00. Really enjoyed your video and learned a lot. Subscribed. Thanks.
That's a great deal! Thanks for sharing some experience after using it in the "real world" for a chunk of time. That's always helpful!
Hi Tom, can you make a video about the RodecasterPro as video switcher ? New firm function. Thanks ! John Pieters form Amsterdam Holland Europe
I made that video last week as soon as they announced the firmware 😁
@@tombuck
Yes, I saw that video. But it is not clear to me how the cameras are installed on the buttons of the Rodecaster Pro.
That intro was AWESOME!! :D And any rough update on when u think ur course might be ready?? or when ur hoping it will be ready :)
Course comes out the first week of May! It’s all finished and the group of people who preordered it are beta testing at the moment before its public release 👍
I’m really proud of it.
Great review! Best one I've found on youtube. So I've been podcasting with the Zoom for a couple months now and I gotta say I'm so glad I got the Zoom over the rodecaster!
I don't think the Zoom is inherently better than the Rode, just a more Professional device overall... The biggest thing I like is how everything can be adjusted on the device itself no need for software. From what ive heard from Professional audio guys for live events, the size of Faders doesn't totally matter, what matters more is the inputs for headphones and mic inputs are clearly visible on the top of the board, that way you have a clear visual of what's connected and what's not (most audio boards are built like this for that reason). Overall I think the Rode is not bad but focused more on aesthetics instead of making the best professional board available. I think it's a complete mistake/miss that they don't have at least 70db of gain to power most pro condenser microphones. I mean more mic inputs, better filing system, power options, CHEAPER. I'd rather skip aesthetics for a better long-term investment. Again great content!
Thank you! I really do wish the Rodecaster had the gain of the Zoom 🤤
The US only comment broke my heart ❤️:(...
great show! Toms minutes are the fastest minutes on the whole web!
Really really really good honest and fair comparison video. Well planned, great value of information, to the point, The content in the frame is eye candy, the audio = ear candy...Very entertaining and as always very funny!
I really appreciate that Patrick!! Don't worry, if I'm able to do a giveaway again in the future, I'll find a way to open up beyond the US. 👍
@@tombuck it’s the thaught that counts. God bless you more!
Has anyone won that yet? i wanna try to win. lol but seriously
I shipped it out to the winner this morning 👍
I actually like plugging into different channels on top of the mixer instead of the back. Puts me into mad-scientist mode. Especially when recording live. Ha.
Tom, you made me feel better about the open box Zoom P8 I just ordered for $279. Minimal investment for dipping my toe in this arena. Once again, you provided another great review. Thank you!
Oh my gosh that’s a total steal. You’ll love it and I’m sure it’ll help make some great sounding work! 👍
@@tombuck it was open box, but I'm still super excited! Arriving today. Thanks again!
what headphones are you using?
They’re Meze 99Neos and I love them.