Intl Jazz Day 2014: Wayne Shorter: Philosophy of Life Through Jazz
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- This discussion features legendary saxophonist and composer Wayne Shorter. Organized by UNESCO and the Thelonious Monk Institute of Jazz, the 2014 International Jazz Day Daytime Educational Program took place at the Osaka School of Music in Osaka, Japan.
She asks what he likes to read, and he starts improvising just the way he plays. Thoughtfully, seriously, with many shifts, hesitations, bursts of beauty fading into unfinished exclamations, introvert giggles before colorful gems of vibrant expression, having fun just flowing with philosophical ideas as he is flowing with musical themes, emerging out of...well, his mind. What a beautiful mind.
+Hiram Amir except I've never heard him take a solo as long as he is talking here!
No kidding! What a thoughtful and intelligent guy, but man that was a lot less focused than his music.
And your perception and understanding of his flow is no less beautiful Hiram.
Miles’ late musical philosophy was governed by the theme of not seeking resolution to musical questions. This created the foundation of openness , thus, allowing one to find his solutions to the problems and creating a vessel of categorizing life experiences. Once realized, this happenstance teaches one what one does not know. Wayne understood this principle very well.
@@ulyssesgarner328 indeed. Herbie quoted Miles telling him: "never finish anything".
I am so appreciative of the opportunity to be able to hear this. I got here by listening to a herbie hancock interview where he mentioned Mr. Shorter and Buddhism. Also, it's so great the host and the audience show great reverence and respect in the way they listen.
I appreciate the wisdom of the moderator's silence. She realizes she's in the presence of genius...and the best way to draw wisdom is to resist the urge to talk and keep silent, and let it come forth naturally. That's VERY rare now-a-days...
You have flown, I've flown listening to your fine music since I was 17 - and I'm 75 now. I appreciate your life so much, my Buddha Buddy! See you in the flying time.
I love that he is Wayne shorter. His Wayne Shorterness is off the charts. RIP legend ❤
RIP Wayne Shorter, couldn't stop listening to this🙏
Just love this man, one of the greatest composers, bandleaders and soloists of the past 60 years. Also love his multidirectional and multidimensional thinking, which reflects his musical approach (and/or vice versa).
Agreed! We were so lucky to get this "inside look" at Wayne Shorter's thought process.
Couldn't be missing W. S. more had I met this saxophone 🎷 extraordinaire/composer/legend. May his FOOTPRINTS walk and may his music continue to SPEAK NO EVIL some place better now!!!!
Ask Wayne a question and just let him go!!!
We listened to Weather Report in the 70's and took LSD. What a revelation. Just sailing through the inner universe ✨..
The Shorter Santana group was wonderful also. His solo recordings are outstanding.
Thanks Wayne.
Life is improvisation. Spontaneously living moment to moment. Awareness, not the mind.
It's rare that I have the patience to listen someone talk for an hour and especially on TH-cam, but I couldn't stop listening to Wayne Shorter even if I wanted to. I was practically in tears just from his amazing presence and ability to be in the moment and the way he connected everything throughout the talk totally blew me away.
Having been a MASSIVE Weather Report fan from pretty-much the beginning it was only when I saw my first interview with Wayne that I REALLY saw where he was coming from. To play music as uniquely as he does, you really need to be seeing the world through a unique pair of glasses. Wayne does this 24/7. It frankly astounds me how his mind works, but it so clearly illustrates WHY he plays the way he does. I sometimes have a fantasy that I would be a TV talk show host, and who would I want to interview the most. Top of the list would have been Robin Williams. And then the fear of god comes over me at the thought of interviewing Wayne - you would have NO idea where it would go. What a beautiful soul this legend has..
Totally agreed-this conversation ended up being quite the inside look on Wayne's thought process for music and life!
„Fear nothing” :)
'This book is not a best seller, it is too good, nobody is reading it because there is too much information' Right here we have a man who understands, he appreciates the concealed nature of the universe, most of us tread water on the surface, afraid to look around and beneath us - here was a singular man, someone who is not afraid to think and look a little more beyond the given.
He is so formidable on stage, but he is like a child who finds everything interesting.
That's the key to ever lasting creativity: to approach everything with the curiosity and lack of prejudice of a child. Picasso would say that it took him a lifetime to learn how to paint like a child.
How do you rehearse the unexpected? This will be my mantra for my abstract paintings. RIP Wayne Shorter.
Wow!!! So that's what is meant by present moment creativity, infinite potential energy, improvisation at its finest!
I love the silence, the audience is really taken.
We are Lucky to have this kind of artist.
"Life is the ultimate trip once you learn to experience it, because in the end, experience is the best teacher." Gary Byrd
Wayne is an inspiring person and the most interesting saxophone player IMO
I am so glad they just let him talk. No questions. No cheers, no interruptions.
"The eternal ballroom, you have to learn to dance in that ballroom."
YES!!!
not if you`re hanging on a rope by your neck or being burned alive though
what a beautiful mind not to mention musician
love this, what an exceptionally pure human being
I don’t know how to express how much I admire him. Mr. Weird, my hero.
Glad you enjoyed, Jeff!
Best interviewer ever!
What a nice comment! We agree 😁
"Jazz means I dare you. Jazz means I dare you to create."
I so wish it were that simple
@@truthlivingetc88 it is
When in doubt - listen to Wayne Shorter; Dazed and Confused? Listen to Wayne Shorter. Don’t know where to turn in this insane world? Just listen to Wayne Shorter. No need to Sit for Nine Years Facing a Wall - practice Shikan-Wayne!
That Miles impression was straight channeling. Nice to have him back for a second. Wayne shares the depth of his mind as wholesome, real and practical. I always had a hunch that he kept his wonder of all things with him. When he talked emphatically of life’s surprises i knew as many of us who knew his loss what he was talking about. If such a thing happens to me I’d want my loved ones to have that gleam and smile in their eyes when they thought of me. This is very personal. My mom left the building and took off for new regions a bit upset that it interrupted her plans. But she knew the story didn’t end here and she made sure I knew she knew. She was a fan, as am I. She’d seen Miles and Wayne play in 66 and Miles smiled a big smile right at her. Late that year Miles Smiles hit the shelves. Thank you ma ❤️🎶
Dear Mr. Wayne Shorter, There are no endings, only new beginnings.
Thank you for your artistry of colors you gave all of us in your music of embracing the unknown. You tapped in cosmic consciousness. Keep tapping. 🙏♥️🌅🌄🌈🌌🌠🎶
Yoooo. As a person that loves jazz, astronomy and astrophysics this is a amazing. The line about it takes resistance for a for a plane ti get in the sky messed me up. Like damn this is amazing
one of the most influential musician of our times!
Wayne Shorter is a Universal Treasure. A Beautiful Mind.
My fellow Newarker and Arts High alum, forever love, thank you Maestro Wayne Shorter!!!💗💗💗💗💗
rise well musician -:The word ‘jazz’ means to me, ‘I dare you.
Let’s jump into the unknown!"
- Wayne Shorter, 1933 ~ 2023 R.I.P.
I wish he would talk about Milton Nasimiento and or how motto grosso feio came about we love wayne he got us through hi-school SHORTNINBREAD FOREVER!! GRACIAS!!
Lovely talking to musicians, who who understand there craft. First time rehearsing you know they say a language and language that tells you how the stuff is going to go. I took a master class of with Wayne shorter. In my opinions, like one of the most unique jazz saxophone composers that I enjoyed
A gem of a human being
A rather profound cat... ha; and a true ambassador for the immediacy of the moment, I would say.
Oh yeah, I always love Wayne's elastic thinking of music
wise man with an open heart, and also happens to be one of the most compelling musicians of the 20th century.
"TheRoadLessTravelled"
🙏
One of the last lions of the golden age along with Sonny Rollins and Ron Charter. Keep on blowing!
Don't forget Roy Haynes, who's even older and still swinging hard.
I absolutly Love Wayne Shorter !! ❤️❤️❤️❤️
Thank you
RIP you one of a kind gem
The Japanese lady who made the only question, might have been thinking.. "Well, one question is enough for this man, don't give him more.."...
- Did you have enough of me?
After 40 minutes...
"we can listen to you forever Wayne..
inspiring and thought provoking. I keep watching this, I wish he could have done more
God Bless u Mr. Shorter . Peace
a historical 55 minutes response to a question about his creative influences and philosphy of creation without rehearsals, from fairy tales to Victor Hugo, to Stephen Hawking, to black holes to UFOs to Miles Davis and no rehearsals, just daring to create
Brilliant Mind,Man,Musician
RIP Legend
I love this man.
Us too!
Thanks a lot for sharing this video..He is a genius and it always good to listen him talking..
What a gem. Thank you for the wisdom Wayne!
amazing!!! thank you Wayne!!!
I'm really interested to hear more about their (jazz musicians) conversation with astrophysicists and other scientists.
🙏 NAM MYOHO RENGE KYO!!!
GRATITUDE!!!
Outstanding! Thanks for share it!
Just a question: If you were just casually walking down the street,and a random person just stopped you and said the exact same things that Wayne Shorter was saying,would you have the same consideration and regard for them,or would you just dismiss them as the ramblings of a somewhat crazy person?This is not whatsoever a condemnation of what Mr.Shorter is saying.My point is that we all hold biases and prejudices, often based on whether the person is famous,or at least familiar ,or if the words are coming from an unexpected source.But they are the same words.In my view,Wayne's words and thoughts are as insightful and entertaining as his music has been all these years. Plus,he is a great mimic.I love him!
I mean the fact that he is an oustanding musician with a great life career only gives his speech a true meaning, it becomes inspiring because the man behind is respectable
the quintet she talks about at 0:53 is actually a quartet.
Yes, Wayne so graciously let it go.
Wayne Shorter's ideas and concepts are amazing
Wayne has some good thoughts- he's worth hearing. Little tummy creeping up. That will slow down your quest.
This is awesome I always heard he had a unique approach to philosophy and language
What a genuinely fascinating guy: "maybe the fairy-tale is the reality, and the reality they are selling us is the fairy tale". Awesome! Good to hear Mr. Shorter is into fiction - never knew that until now. Thanks for posting!
fiction. his spirituality is a bit of a fiction. in my opinion. doubtless you will agree heartily.
why do you think so?
I am merely venting my own petty frustration with Wayne`s way of expressing his spirituality in words.Probably because he expresses it so powerfully in his music. So my expectations are high. But I am bitter.I went into psychiatric meltdown in 1999 after having worshipped Weather Report since 1978 .I also had some terrible experiences with Nichiren Daishonin Buddhists (Wayne practices this form of Buddhism) whom I experienced bullying one of their members : a young single mum who clearly had mental health problems. This was a couple of years ago. They tried to turn on me when I questioned their beliefs and it was not fun. And it was not open minded. Also . Japan has a very chequered history when it comes to Buddhism. Zen priests eagerly assisted Japanese troops in the torture of prisoners in various conflicts of the last century. None if this is meant to imply that I believe that Wayne is culpable. Or anything less than profound both spiritually and verbally.I am just working through my own mental and aesthetic problems and probably putting Wayne (whom I used to believe was a spiritual oracle in both word and music) in the firing line in order to vent. Nowadays he still resonates as a really major musical sage. But no longer as a verbal one. This is my present view. But I am always changing my mind on these things. I still consider Wayne amongst the greatest of weaver of dreams on the saxophone. Dewey Redman was another favourite. Thanks for your question. It was rather unexpected as I rarely get responses on comments in relation to music. Any of your thoughts are welcome.
Yeah, I had similar experiences with yoga. I was really interested in it for years, but got disillusioned with the whole thing because of the way one specific yoga teacher behaved. Now, as I seem to have unintentionally got back into it (about ten years later) I've been thinking that was a bit silly really: I sort of tarred everyone with the same brush because I thought one person was a phoney, and behaved badly. Of course, there is a lot we can criticise about the way yoga is taught, both in the West, and for sure, in Asia, but it's a bit daft to throw away an interest in something simply because some of the people involved in it have various issues.
Not sure if you had a similar experience with Buddhism - that you sort of raised it on a pedestal, then got disillusioned because some people, or groups, did not live up to your expectations?
Enjoyed your talk so much Mr. Shorter....anxious to hear your thoughts again along with your great music....You always GIVE! Thank you!
100% Incredible.
Glad you enjoyed, Andy!
Yes yes yes
very nice
Nam you're holding me going on nam-myoho-renge-kyo nam-myoho-renge-kyo
Oh god. She actually said 'The Weather Report' Jesus christ
Yeah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Thank you Wayne
Please, could you add french subtitles ?
People used to take Rick Perlstein seriously as a historian before they saw his crazy Twitter feed. So I guess we have to thank Twitter for that.
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YES . . .
AND . . .
So . . .
Why do you 'believe' the Story about a 'beginning' to 'TheUniverse'?
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33:00?
GHOSTBUSTERS
lol can you silly people not see that this is the one and only actual almighty god here speaking right at you?
I love you
Put your hands over your head!
I feel like I just listened to a Joe Rogan podcast
NO SPACE BETWEEN ATOMIC PARTICLES BUT PLENTY OF RESONANCE IF YOU LISTEN
NonDual CauseEffect
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somebody needs to explain this man to me. he comes off like a chauncey (from being there)- " Yes. In the garden, growth has it seasons. First comes spring and summer, but then we have fall and winter. And then we get spring and summer again.
Throck Morton There is no explaining, either you have a place in your being of resonance or you don't...
Throck Morton No one *needs* to explain jack shit to you.
Mr. Enigma it was a rhetorical question, you colossal fucktard . . . wayne shorter is an idiot savant and should stick to jazz, not pseudo intellectual bullshit.
Shorter is awesome. But notice the host, she says nothing! Thanks.
I think she noticed that Wayne wanted to expand the talk himself into something big, and he had so much to talk about, that she preferred to respect and stay silent.
Wayne is my favourite musician of all time. Up there with Dinu Lipati and Ravel. But his verbal spiritual communication is lamentable in places. Human being is not the ultimate adventure. Suicide counts precisely because it is a new beginning. Failiure is sacred too. Stop hiding behind your Nichiren inspired dogma Wayne. I love you . But you are talking hogg.
I like him too but he speaks like a schizophrenic. Its definitely on a different level of understanding.
@@livinnlovin1743 Hi there I met some great people here arguing about Wayne. I have had some crazy visions about Wayne and now realize that he is way more a genius than I realized when I wrote that comment.
Yes. What do you see or hear in him then ?
A great musician indeed, but as a "philosopher" he is ridiculous; like a kid...
"What is kept from the wise and the prudent, shall revealed to the baby and the suckling".
I love Wayne, he is a great Artist and my Number 1 Musician, but sad to see that he does not know god, instead is getting lost in Philosophy.
I quote the Bible
1Ko 1:18 For the word of the cross is to them that perish foolishness, but to us that are saved it is God's power.
1Ko 1:19 For it is written, I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, and set aside the understanding of the understanding ones.
1Ko 1:20 Where is the wise? where scribe? where disputer of this world? has not God made foolish the wisdom of the world?
1Ko 1:21 For since, in the wisdom of God, the world by wisdom has not known God, God has been pleased by the foolishness of the preaching to save those that believe.
Pray for him so he will see what matters after Death
What makes you think you're right and he's wrong?
This makes me know he i s wrong ( i love Wayne and his Music , just care for his eternal soul )
Joh 14:6 Jesus says to him, I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father unless by me.
1Ko 1:18 For the word of the cross is to them that perish foolishness, but to us that are saved it is God's power.
1Ko 1:19 For it is written, I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, and set aside the understanding of the understanding ones.
1Ko 1:20 Where is the wise? where scribe? where disputer of this world? has not God made foolish the wisdom of the world?
1Ko 1:21 For since, in the wisdom of God, the world by wisdom has not known God, God has been pleased by the foolishness of the preaching to save those that believe.
NOSPYCHIPSRFID Give me a break! That's is why i left Catholicism... people like you. Religion brings separation of people, it doesn't accept or bring people together. I am a proud Buddhist now. I'm a better human being now. I'm sane. I grew up "knowing" God....but didn't help me get through the obstacles in life. To enjoy them and to learn from them. To cherish every moment. If you look at the news, ....nothing but violence and death because of Relgion....Christian, Catholic (pope lives in a palace while there is so much poverty in the world), Islam beheading people, etc.... ALL buddhist want is PEACE, love, compassion!!!!!! what is wrong with that concept?!!!!
***** Wayne Shorter is a wise and talented man who is spreading his knowledge with others! I am proud of people like him. He has made so much money because of his talent but he finds the time to give people ideas, motivation to do more in their lives. To give people hope. He is amazing. Coming from the ghetto and becoming something MORE in life! That's is inspiration!!!!! He is an amazing HUMAN BEING. I am all for the religion of HUMANISM!!!!
NOSPYCHIPSRFID typical religious ignoramus... YOU are the one lacking here.... that book you call the bible, is more babble than anything else... Here is a giant of a being, and you have to relate all that he says to this stupid book that is no more than a fairy tale... Does not surprise me though... you and your ilk or the most ignorant, barren of spirit and life that I have ever seen.
A piece from a new book titled: Saved by the Light of the Buddha Within...
Myoho-Renge-Kyo represents the identity of what some scientists are now referring to as the unified field of consciousnesses. In other words, it’s the essence of all existence and non-existence - the ultimate creative force behind planets, stars, nebulae, people, animals, trees, fish, birds, and all phenomena, manifest or latent. All matter and intelligence are simply waves or ripples manifesting to and from this core source. Consciousness (enlightenment) is itself the actual creator of everything that exists now, ever existed in the past, or will exist in the future - right down to the minutest particles of dust - each being an individual ripple or wave. The big difference between chanting Nam-Myoho-Renge-Kyo and most other conventional prayers is that instead of depending on a ‘middleman’ to connect us to our state of inner enlightenment, we’re able to do it ourselves. That’s because chanting Nam-Myoho-Renge-Kyo allows us to tap directly into our enlightened state by way of this self-produced sound vibration. ‘Who or What Is God?’ If we compare the concept of God being a separate entity that is forever watching down on us, to the teachings of Nichiren, it makes more sense to me that the true omnipotence, omniscience and omnipresence of what most people perceive to be God, is the fantastic state of enlightenment that exists within each of us. Some say that God is an entity that’s beyond physical matter - I think that the vast amount of information continuously being conveyed via electromagnetic waves in today’s world gives us proof of how an invisible state of God could indeed exist. For example, it’s now widely known that specific data relayed by way of electromagnetic waves has the potential to help bring about extraordinary and powerful effects - including an instant global awareness of something or a mass emotional reaction. It’s also common knowledge that these invisible waves can easily be used to detonate a bomb or to enable NASA to control the movements of a robot as far away as the Moon or Mars - none of which is possible without a receiver to decode the information that’s being transmitted. Without the receiver, the data would remain impotent. In a very similar way, we need to have our own ‘receiver’ switched on so that we can activate a clear and precise understanding of our own life, all other life and what everything else in existence is. Chanting Nam-Myoho-Renge-Kyo each day helps us to achieve this because it allows us to reach the core of our enlightenment and keep it switched on. That’s because Myoho-Renge-Kyo represents the identity of what scientists now refer to as the unified field of consciousnesses. To break it down - Myoho represents the Law of manifestation and latency (Nature) and consists of two alternating states. For example, the state of Myo is where everything in life that’s not obvious to us exists - including our stored memories when we’re not thinking about them - our hidden potential and inner emotions whenever they’re dormant - our desires, our fears, our wisdom, happiness, karma - and more importantly, our enlightenment. The other state, ho, is where everything in Life exists whenever it becomes evident to us, such as when a thought pops up from within our memory - whenever we experience or express our emotions - or whenever a good or bad cause manifests as an effect from our karma. When anything becomes apparent, it merely means that it’s come out of the state of Myo (dormancy/latency) and into a state of ho (manifestation). It’s the difference between consciousness and unconsciousness, being awake or asleep, or knowing and not knowing. The second law - Renge - Ren meaning cause and ge meaning effect, governs and controls the functions of Myoho - these two laws of Myoho and Renge, not only function together simultaneously but also underlie all spiritual and physical existence. The final and third part of the tri-combination - Kyo, is the Law that allows Myoho to integrate with Renge - or vice versa. It’s the great, invisible thread of energy that fuses and connects all Life and matter - as well as the past, present and future. It’s also sometimes termed the Universal Law of Communication - perhaps it could even be compared with the string theory that many scientists now suspect exists. Just as the cells in our body, our thoughts, feelings and everything else is continually fluctuating within us - all that exists in the world around us and beyond is also in a constant state of flux - constantly controlled by these three fundamental laws. In fact, more things are going back and forth between the two states of Myo and ho in a single moment than it would ever be possible to calculate or describe. And it doesn’t matter how big or small, famous or trivial anything or anyone may appear to be, everything that’s ever existed in the past, exists now or will exist in the future, exists only because of the workings of the Laws ‘Myoho-Renge-Kyo’ - the basis of the four fundamental forces, and if they didn’t function, neither we nor anything else could go on existing. That’s because all forms of existence, including the seasons, day, night, birth, death and so on, are moving forward in an ongoing flow of continuation - rhythmically reverting back and forth between the two fundamental states of Myo and ho in absolute accordance with Renge - and by way of Kyo. Even stars are dying and being reborn under the workings of what the combination ‘Myoho-Renge-Kyo’ represents. Nam, or Namu - which mean the same thing, are vibrational passwords or keys that allow us to reach deep into our life and fuse with or become one with ‘Myoho-Renge-Kyo’. On a more personal level, nothing ever happens by chance or coincidence, it’s the causes that we’ve made in our past, or are presently making, that determine how these laws function uniquely in each of our lives - as well as the environment from moment to moment. By facing east, in harmony with the direction that the Earth is spinning, and chanting Nam-Myoho-Renge-Kyo for a minimum of, let’s say, ten minutes daily to start with, any of us can experience actual proof of its positive effects in our lives - even if it only makes us feel good on the inside, there will be a definite positive effect. That’s because we’re able to pierce through the thickest layers of our karma and activate our inherent Buddha Nature (our enlightened state). By so doing, we’re then able to bring forth the wisdom and good fortune that we need to challenge, overcome and change our adverse circumstances - turn them into positive ones - or manifest and gain even greater fulfilment in our daily lives from our accumulated good karma. This also allows us to bring forth the wisdom that can free us from the ignorance and stupidity that’s preventing us from accepting and being proud of the person that we indeed are - regardless of our race, colour, gender or sexuality. We’re also able to see and understand our circumstances and the environment far more clearly, as well as attract and connect with any needed external beneficial forces and situations. As I’ve already mentioned, everything is subject to the law of Cause and Effect - the ‘actual-proof-strength’ resulting from chanting Nam-Myoho-Renge-Kyo always depends on our determination, sincerity and dedication. For example, the levels of difference could be compared to making a sound on a piano, creating a melody, producing a great song, and so on. Something else that’s very important to always respect and acknowledge is that the Law (or if you prefer God) is in everyone and everything. NB: There are frightening and disturbing sounds, and there are tranquil and relaxing sounds. It’s the emotional result of any noise or sound that can trigger off a mood or even instantly change one. When chanting Nam-Myoho-Renge-Kyo each day, we are producing a sound vibration that’s the password to our true inner-self - this soon becomes apparent when you start reassessing your views on various things - such as your fears and desires etc. The best way to get the desired result when chanting is not to view things conventionally - rather than reaching out to an external source, we need to reach into our own lives and bring our needs and desires to fruition from within - including the good fortune and strength to achieve any help that we may need. Chanting Nam-Myoho-Renge-Kyo also reaches out externally and draws us towards, or draws towards us, what we need to make us happy from our environment. For example, it helps us to be in the right place at the right time - to make better choices and decisions and so forth. We need to think of it as a seed within us that we’re watering and bringing sunshine to for it to grow, blossom and bring forth fruit or flowers. It’s also important to understand that everything we need in life, including the answer to every question and the potential to achieve every dream, already exists within us. To understand the meaning of Nam-Myoho-Renge-Kyo even more, I sincerely recommend that you read Tina Turner's new book: Happiness Becomes You.th-cam.com/video/NR5DdqjMxgA/w-d-xo.html Let go, and let God - Olivia Newton-John Nam Myoho Renge Kyo Let go, and let God - Olivia Newton-John Nam Myoho Renge Kyo www.youtube.com
Please, could you add french subtitles ?
haha I need English subtitles for a french video I want to watch...
Marion, I love your injection of cold reality. Subtitles help, and so does listening to the silences between the words@@ColmRooney