Yuta won’t make a BINDING VOW to recreate gojos absolutely broken ability used during the 1st Gojo x Sukuna fight. If you don’t remember, Gojo creates a remote hollow purple bomb which is effectively a mine. He created orbs of red and blue that when clashed together create a purple explosion. It completely obliterates anything in a certain radius. Sukuna was able to sacrifice his world cutting slashes ease of use in order to have a one use unnoticeable slash that killed Gojo. Gojo could’ve at anytime before Sukuna learned what he needed from mahoraga. Done a binding vow that would allow him to surround Sukuna in a minefield of hollow purples thus returning Sukuna to nothingness. Yuta has the all the memories of watching the fight, mei mei crows, plus Gojos memories to absolutely know all of this. Yuta for some reason won’t just sacrifice something to obliterate Sukuna into oblivion and it’s an absolute joke. This fight should’ve been over as soon as Gojo’s overpowered abilities got a second chance. Apparently this prodigy Yuta was willing to sacrifice everything but for some reason won’t do a binding vow lmao. It’s boring writing at this point. There were many ways to make this story interesting even with Gojo being overpowered. If you want to know any possible plot line that would’ve been cool. Feel free to ask.
no, Gojo was trying to defeat Sukuna without harming Megumi. If Gojo wasn't trying to keep Megumi safe, Sukuna would've been dead before the first adaptation. He is a fraud
@@greasycheese8095 gojo fans can look at the story spoonfeeding and telling them that gojo went all out (characters wondering if gojo forgot about megumi, gojo saying he’ll worry about megumi after the fight, gojo saying sukuna didn’t even go all out implying that gojo did)
@@greasycheese8095Gojo LITERALLY crushed Sukuna’s heart, and was going to crush his lungs too. Gojo was ABSOLUTELY going for the kill, you Gojo meatriders are just on some serious copium
Gojo was improvising at the moment to kill Sukuna as fast as possible while Sukuna was planning from the start to improve his kit with multiple backups
nah, Sukuna would have lost even with world cutting slash, if it was used normally since even maki can dodge it, but Sukuna pulled a binding vow at the last min to catch gojo off-guard, if I have to say gojo has pretty good improvising skills, but goddamn can Sukuna outperform him using binding vows on the spot.
@@Wayvyobi wdym automatically? there will be a spark right before a big attack and the world slash will definitely have it, gojo wouldn't mistake such an attack and take it head-on because of his infinity. All I'm saying is Even Sukuna would have lost if he is bad at improvising in mid-battle (which he isn't)
I think in Sukuna’s case, he does do SOME improvising, but he’s clearly more of a character that quickly analyzes that makes a strategy in response. This is often shown through his analysis and reaction to each of the cursed techniques and abilities he comes across throughout the series. Even in the heat of battle, he’ll formulate strategies on the fly when new variables enter the equation
Sukuna dominates the two categories !Sukuna used a makeshift domain with one hand and a half scrambed brain on the fly☠️,he also uses shikigamis power without summoning them ,he came up with passing off the burden of maho adaptation to others,he came up with using DA to reduce enemy attack output,domain amplification and domain simultaneously,Coming up with the strategy of turning off his domain sure hit entirely and touching his Gojo to not get hit by UV on the flyetc. Gojo on the other hand only has unlimited hollow purple and changing his barrier conditions which sukuna can also by the way.
And even then that's the meguna form, he speed blitzed blue, gojo/yutas reaction, and bypassed infinity with just domain amp, while being extremely nerfed Gege showed this on the newest chapter and the narrative been showing how different hein vs meguna is It's not even is no letting gojo get anything, it's geges narrative that just tells it how it is @@Weebgamer236
Good analysis. Although I think the main reason why Sukuna is able to land World Cutting Slash is because Gojo simply couldn't anticipate it harming him. Infinity works automatically after all. Gojo likely saw that Sukuna was gonna launch a dismantle. What he couldn't foresee is Sukuna being able to not only replicate Mahoraga's technique that easily but also seemingly does it without any drawbacks (it's revealed in later chapters how it was done).
He can launch dismantle without moving, which is an insane level of subtraction. Kusakabe couldn't even see it coming (I don't think he even saw the spark?) And he used the binding vow to send WCS in a similar manner once. This likely caught Gojo off guard bc the only other dismantle sukuna sent, he used a finger gun. A very nice feint by Sukuna
Gojo didn’t send that 200% hollow purple to end the fight, he’s a flashy type of dude and just did that to start the fight, he never actually thought that attack would kill sukuna especially from that distance. It’s kinda like getting a feel for how strong he is.
I have to disagree, no one & nothing has ever survived a normal hollow purple , as far as Gojo is concerned a 200% Hollow purple will either kill Sukuna or seriously damage him & he’ll have to use a sh*t ton of CE for RCT plus he gets to gauge how strong Sukuna is so that he can mentally register that he can’t afford to not give it his all. Gojo is the flashy type like you said but I don’t think he’s doing it here. But I could be wrong.
@@InvedianI have to ask, if he was scared don’t you think teleporting to Sukuna’s blind spot before Sukuna realised Gojo has pulled up & using infinite void immediately would stand a chance of ending the fight the quickest? You didn’t factor in that Gojo has a superiority complex.
People miss how much Megumi helped sukuna in the domain clash. From the moment the domain clashes began sukuna had megumi soul adapt to UV. If sukuna had to do it himself he wouldn't be able to use Domain Amplification inside his Domain without affecting the adaption. It wasnt a 3v1 it was a 4v1
The problem with this is because you are implying that Sukuna needed Megumi. He had his body fresh and available, so of course he would take advantage of his elite CT and soul. However even in the vid he says if Sukuna hadn’t risked taking damage from UV, he would have won win Gojo exhausted himself. This indicates that in his Heian form for example, he would win as he wouldn’t have megumi and thus wouldn’t take the risk which basically forced him to learn the World cutter
@@dripg0djv280 people keep saying that, but we have yet to see a technique Sukuna could do (completely devoid of Mahoraga’s adaptation) that could end Gojo lol. The whole point of world cutter was that it was derived from Mahoragas adaptation, which only could have happened with Sukuna using Megumis soul as a dummy
@@josemariantoniofajardo2941 malevolent shrine did a number on Gojo lol. He needed RCT to survive. A Gojo prior to any black flashes to refresh his RCT + Heian era form applying pressure plus potentially Fuga is enough to kill Gojo without his DE
@@dhwanishah8222 Kenjaku taught Sakuna techniques like converting things into curse objects. that's how he got Megumi body. Safe to say they work similarly, thats how Sakuna could just fight on when yuji lost consciousness. Sakuna knew everything and hence gojo stood no chance.
It's not like Gojo was Megumi's surrogate father. I'd bet Megumi knew just about as much of Gojo as Yuji did. And I doubt Gojo shared any weaknesses with him, as if there were any. The only things besides Mahoraga that could bypass Gojo's limitless were cursed tools that Gojo had already destroyed.
@@jase276 I think it's more likely he does. Megumi has known Gojo for 10 years, there's flashbacks shown of Gojo just hanging out with Megumi on his off time, when Megumi was a child. I think it's improbable that he wouldn't know more than Yuji does or wouldn't have a thorough understanding about the limitless technique. After all, in order for Megumi to surpass Satoru like Gojo demands, he'd need to be able to quantify how strong he is.
@@jase276 megumi knew better about the limitless definitely...afterall gojo told that megumi had the potential to defeat him due to his techniques...so its safe to say that gojo told him about his techniques...and it def was gojo who helped him grasp the basics of the 10 shadow
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@@CertainlyCynicalyet he still admitted Sukuna might of won without ten shadows and he said this knowing Sukuna was holding back and not knowing about heian😭
Gojo was fighting a losing battle from the start because Sukuna more or less knew all of Gojo’s abilities before the fight while Gojo knew next to nothing.
The main reason Gojo lost was because he lacked information in comparison to Sukuna. Sukuna knew exactly how Gojo's entire kit worked, down to the fact that touching Gojo exempts you from his domain. Gojo knew the basics of the 10S, and possibly that his domain was open, along with the fact that Sukuna has slashing attacks. Gojo couldn't have known that Mahoraga could adapt via someone else taking the hits for it, or that it could adapt via Megumi's soul while Sukuna had his own domain open. Gojo had the better BIQ, H2H skill, technique, and an equally strong domain, he just lacked the information.
Even with that I still think that the Ten shadows, mainly mahoraga was Sukuna's best resource, without it he would've died plenty of times during the fight.
@enenra6417 nah, you can't ignore gojos regeneration feats during sukunas domain expansion. Legit all sukuna needs to be is 0.1 seconds late and bros cooked 😂
If he hadn’t been hit by unlimited void, there is nothing that indicates he wouldnt be able to open Shrine 2 or three more times, as he used the ct brain burnout less than Gojo. As stated in the vid, after Gojo couldnt open his domain, the battle was extended because Sukuna risked getting hit by UV by utilizing his adaptation strategy. This also made him unable to use any ct inside the de clashes, which also contributed. Sukuna in his Heian form wouldn’t have risked this and cooked Gojo
@@sagarrawat4121 how is that black flash even plot lol. Im guessing you dont even know what plot means. His tactic to hit red at his back and then hit him with blue was not plot however being with almost no cursed technique 1 arm and barely standing using enough output to offscreen gojo with black flash that is just gege not knowing how to defeat gojo (plot)
@@pathogermic3662 i think you didn't understand what actually happened there sukuna use binding vow to send last slash and there is no confirmation about slash does gojo able to see slash or not regardless of 6 eyes, and if black is not plot armor then how binding vow was??? I only said BF is plot because some gojo fan consider binding vow as a plot but not black flash, why?? Black flash literally use as a plot(with there additional buff)in manga whether it is for sukuna or gojo, Atlast if you consider binding vow is plot then you should also consider black flash as plot device and if not then neither one of them. And for sukuna condition he has is transformation which he can use to transform into heian form and send that slash without binding vow.
Fantastic analysis. Now I realize that if Gojo simply had more info on the 10 shadows technique he probably couldve won or at least make it to heian era sukuna but, of course, info like that would be impossible for him to obtain because not a single ten shadows user had defeated mahoraga and the only one still alive was posessed by sukuna himself.
one possible theory about open domains could be that Sukuna was the original creator of an open domain, and since whoever he would use it against would die, then information about it would not be common, however someone like kenjaku finding out about, and then proceeding to learn the technique makes a lot of sense considering the type of character that he is
i think it's the opposite, Kenjaku seems to be really ancient, like way before the haien era from some ofthe participants in the Culling games so as a master of barrier techniques himself it's likely either him or tengen was the original inventor of open DE. I think Sukuna might have witnessed him use it and copied it like he did with Gojo's rerouting method.
Nope, we already know Open Domain is a result of BINDING VOW, basically trading the Barrier (to prevent enemies from escaping) for GREATER AREA OF EFFECT of the domain (which will also result in greater amount of Debris to fuel the Furnace)
@@fg009letyrds8 That’s not the case at all. Open domains are literally described as an artist making a painting in thin air rather on a canvas (normal domains) But they explained Sukuna utilized a binding vow in addition to extend his range since open domains give the opponent a chance to escape. Thats why Sukuna’s domain is so broken. Dude made a superior form of domain and then used its one downside as a condition in order to activate massive range as a trade off. Essentially Sukuna cheated the system. And continues to do so to this day because he’s apparently a god at abusing binding vows.
@@zorro8027this is actually a weakness people don't seem to realize gojo could've taken advantage of under the right circumstances during his domain battle with sukuna. if gojo ever left and went for the smart option of attacking sukuna outside the range of his domain until he could catch him in IV and sukuna somehow survived and decided to close off his domain the next time, he would lose the innate advantage his domain has over gojo's since he would be violating the binding vow he made for more range by allowing the opponent an opportunity to escape. basically gojo was probably the only person in the verse who had an answer for sukuna's domain and instead gaygay chose to have him do the sorcerer equivalent of bashing his head into a brick wall over and over again.
@@venotti86 like what ? Aside from IV + doesn't gojo have every single knowledge about 10 shadöws+ bro literally has six eyes , so who was at disadvantage 🤡
i like how the binding vow part was out of the topic since that was the only way he could've ever done anything against gojo while being badly injured and it was clearly out of desperation
It wasn't just a binding vow. Ya boy couldn't do it on his own and had to take over another body to kill him. Lmao. Sukuna was definitely stronger in the end... Butttt gojo couldn't kill him(to save megumi), and sukuna needed someone else's strength and technique. @@windygrass9807
He could've easily just transformed to heal himself but that would mean there'd be no need for the wcs binding vow to nerf the ability and all the students will be dead. Sorry but gojo never stood a chance
22:36 so the reason the world slash hit GoJo was Cause sakuna made a binding vow that allowed the slash to be instant meaning there was no spark and basically no way to react to it from GoJo that’s why it hit him
I think it may also be the fact that gojo may have sensed it, but like what was the dismantle gonna do with infinity on? So he probably thought infinity would stop the so called slash. Maybe he couldn't react fast enough or maybe he didn't detect it as a threat
@@ExplosiveGrapein a later chapter where it’s explained what the conditions for the world slash are. I forget the number, but it’s after Yuta’s domain goes down.
Nobody ever talks about Gojo's mental health in that fight. Even if you ignore his whole character up until shibuya , once he got sealed. The prison realm had been mentioned to destroy a person's mind , or at least mess with them. Once he came out of the prison realm gojo had no crazy reaction , which many fans were mad at gege for as they excpected Gojo would have some mebtal problems when he came out. Maybe Gojo simply pretended to be mentaly alright for his student's?
@@Lukas-py4dr as i said that is also ignoring all his character up until shibuya , it was pretty damn clear he always suffered from lonelyness till geto came along , and like everybody else geto eventually geto saw Gojo for his strength alone. His character is incredibly deep and most people still only see him for just begin "the strongest"
So basically... Sukuna = Prep Gojo = Adaptation (No Pun) Gojo has the edge in battle IQ and overall physical stats. Sukuna however was the better prepper and devilishly put the full potential of the 10 Shadows tech into full throttle. Gojo does things on the fly. Sukuna did his homework. Because let's be real even if Sukuna could figure out a way past Infinity/Limitless, it would of been too late since Gojo's innovative/adaptive prowess would of blitzed and overtaken Sukuna. He legitimately needed Mahoraga to end it quicky before Gojo continued to a more brutal execution or finishing blow. Overall this fight was very much a 50/50. And both took a high risk high reward mentality. Only one was going to come out alive, Gojo knew his win would decide the future of the world, Sukuna knew so long as Gojo Satoro lived his thousand year plan would crumble. Megumi really was that game changer.
Sukuna had no more prep than Gojo, he didn't take Megumi's body to get past limitless, he took it because he was interested in the Ten Shadows. That's shown because Sukuna was interested before he knew about Infinity. He just had a plan, just like Gojo had a plan for him. If Sukuna wanted to kill Gojo without using Mahoraga, he would have just stuck to the domain clashes and kept Domain Amplification on when fighting, meaning that Gojo wouldn't be able to stop Shrine before his DE get's destroyed, and eventually run out of Domains to use. However, Sukuna rather just take those cards away from Gojo instead, and while he's at it get Mahoraga to show him how to get past infinity without a domain. Either way, Sukuna has a plan. >Sukuna knew so long as Gojo Satoro lived his thousand year plans would crumble You might be confusing him for Kenjaku, Sukuna doesn't care for any thousand year plan beyond entertainment. Sukuna just wanted to "eat" interesting or strong people until he dies.
@@kilokilo7254Actually he knew that Mahoraga existed but he didnt know what he actually was until Shibuya, when Megumi was raising his cursed energy to summon him THAT is when Sukuna got interesting in seeing the 10 Shadows full capability. As he said himself, Megumi didn't understand just how much potential his own technique was.
@@kidkatanatv He never knew that Mahoraga existed, nor did he know what the 10 shadows was. Sukuna saw the potential in Megumi and his technique during their first fight, but had no knowledge of it prior to what he saw. It makes sense because the 10 Shadows didn't exist in the Heian Era. Either way, Sukuna did not want Megumi for Mahoraga and Infinity, Sukuna wanted Megumi because his potential was enough to surpass him. Given that, he didn't take Megumi to prep for Gojo
I think it would be cool if you made one of these combat IQ videos for the baki series or the kengan Omega series. Since characters in both of those series mostly have to rely on their martial arts skill.
Basically without the combination of Yuji, Megumi, 10 shadows, and Mahoraga…… Gojo would’ve won, killed, or draw! Bc he wouldn’t have had the time to figure out how to kill Gojo. Yes, Sukuna still is a beast on his own but without full knowledge of Gojo’s capabilities. Ppl don’t even realize that Sukuna was already kind of familiar with Gojo. Bc of being with Yuji having access to his mind. Forgetting that Gojo explained some of his capabilities in the fight with Jogo. So think to Sukuna fight with Mahoraga now. It took time for him to figure out where as with Gojo who is leagues stronger off rip than Maho. That time would mean nite nite for Sukuna. Sukuna’s real advantage was Yuji and prep time bc he had a vendetta (basically).
1 month preparation. Just to get 0 Information about Sukuna Barrierless Domain Expansion. That was awful from everyone. Gojo had to put a lot of effort and adapt.
Gege trying to convince everyone they had all these back ups totally planned but no one bothered to tell gojo about sukuna's open domain or try testing out how higuruma's domain interacts with cursed tools.
@@AhmadKazan-wk7eiand btw except yuji that doesn’t even have that much knowledge of high level jujutsu how do you expect anyone to talk about sukuna’s domain?
@@WayvyobiThey didn't know about his cursed tool...Higaruma's domain confiscating it instead of Shrine was not part of the plan at all. They realized that the amount of control they had over the crime Sukuna would be put on trial for and the subsequent punishment was limited so they used Sukuna's connection to Yuji to force confiscation + death penalty to be penalty applied if Sukuna was found guilty. They didn't know Kamutoke existed and it getting taken instead of Shrine wasn't planned.
I personally think we can't come to a conclusion on who is more intelligent than the other due to their circumstances. They both had different resources, so it can't even be measured in the forst place.
I think it is actually possible, they fight differently on a fundamental scale, Gojo is the master of improvisation while Sukuna is the master of strategy. As Sukuna prepared for the fight since chapter 1 basically. Sukuna had a massive advantage against Gojo just because of that, Sukuna knew almost everything about Gojo, but Gojo didnt know almost anything about Sukuna and that was deliberate.
@@MonkeyDEneru The most important factor of the fight was Mahoragas adaptation, there were also questions with Fuga, though I guess Gojo didnt know about that at all, so techincally it didnt affect the fight.
I think it's possible to measure their intelligence, I mean I'm not saying that Gojo is stupid but Sukuna has way more experience than Gojo but Gojo is still a GREAT character in the story of JJK
Even worse , how did sukuna after taking an unlimited hollow to the face that killed mahoraga was still manage to pull out world cutting slash (that Maki can dodge but Gojo with 6 eyes after landing black flashes couldn't) ?
@@michael5319 That was explained later Sukuna as we now know is a binding vow merchant lol. He made a vow that if it hit Gojo he could fire with one hand on some sneak shit. The tradeoff, is NOW from that point on he had to aim the slash, and use chants, so opponents know when it's coming. He basically cheated on some villainy stuff to take Gojo out🤣
As you said, Gojo was defeated by the Class student Mahoraga, and the guy copying Mahoraga. Without Mahoraga, infinity would've remained unbreached. With his infinity unbreached, it would've been a complete roflstomp. For the story, Sukuna needed to win, and the way it came about seems fine to me.
LOL , Domain Amplification can literally pass through Infinity, Sukuna literally bypassed Infinity with Malevolent Shrine. What are you smoking? :)), Gojo literally admitted Sukuna wouldve still won even without Mahoraga and also admitted that Sukuna didn't even go all out :), Stop sucking gojo's dck
Nah. Domain expansion breaches infinity. Gojo would have died had sukuna not used mahoraga, there'd be no need to stall for mahoraga and sukuna would've never been hit . He'd close the domain on the third and Gojo drops dead like the ordinary person he is.
@@Owen-sx4jj "Gojo drops dead like the ordinary person he is". Why don't you even try to act like your not biased. If that's the case why wasn't Gojo already dead after the fourth domain clash. Gojo was surviving the domain clashes but Sukuna just had the better plan.
@@mattk_p gojo didn't. The only reason he "survived was because of two things. One, sukuna was stalling for mahoraga and went around doing unecessary things like attacking the outside of the domain or not using any other techniques just so mahoraga could adapt as much as possible so in order to do this he would extend the clashes. His priority wasn't simply to outlast gojo in a clash and he paid the price for it since he got hit with UV because of this. Without mahoraga gojo would not last in MV Secondly, gojo was given domain shrink tech and the ridiculous "I can now healy burnout CE " never seen before in the series. My bias is warranted, gojo is ordinary and isn't on the same level as someone like sukuna...
@@Owen-sx4jj I’m not interested in arguing about who’s stronger. You can’t change my mind same way I can’t change yours. But saying Gojo is ordinary and saying ur bias is warranted is just a more complicated way of saying ur still biased.
sukuna is approaching battle with the mindset of “devouring the strongest” whereas gojo already believes he is the strongest. this dichotomy is what framed the entire battle between them. there’s a big difference between wanting to devour the strongest (sukuna) and believing you are the strongest (gojo). Sukuna is a unique villain because his philosophy isn’t framed after being the strongest, he doesn’t care. his goal is to do what he wants and devour whoever he wants. thus why his disposition is expressed as a “chef” in a kitchen. he see’s gojo as a savory delicacy in hopes that it will satisfy his endless appetite to devour everything. remember: demons don’t have rest, and they can’t ever experience satisfaction. they themselves are tormented by a everlasting restlessness. that’s why they endlessly seek pleasures.
Gojo's brain damage was from destroying & rebuilding his prefrontal cortex, no? Presumably flubbing that final attempt. (Maybe he damaged the wrong part, healed the wrong part, or healed too slowly because his RCT was getting weaker?) Exhaustion from spamming his Domain might have caused the fuck-up, though.
Great video! Something people don’t take into account is that Sukuna went into this fight knowing all of Gojo’s abilities and how his domain works so he had a plan. On top of that he has tons of battle experience from the Heian era whereas the only time Gojo’s ever had to struggle in a fight was against Toji. For a 20 something year old with barely any REAL battle experience to fight somebody with tons and tons of experience who also had 2 curse techniques (one of which is a direct counter to limitless), he did a great job fr
@@SWEEN_PRODUCTIONZ he didn’t know he had an open barrier domain, he didn’t know he could domain amplify while inside his own domain, he didn’t know exactly how mahoraga’s adaptation worked, so where are you getting this info from?
Gojo’s death was a plot armor in the execution. Sukuna is stronger yes. However the world cutting slash connecting makes no sense. Chapter 236 tainted gojo’s character A LOT.
@@opsoo2229 so that alone is enough to completely kill a foe who was almost as strong as sukuna himself? And you dare call that fair? Sukuna kills one of the strongest sorcerers of all time and in exchange he has to use two extra arms to use a technique that oh by the way he couldn’t even use before? Oh and it just so happens that his original form has 4 arms too? You still dare call that fair…
@@DKing-du6xrBro it’s been shown WAY prior to 237 that sukuna’s true form has 4 arms. Even in the beginning of the manga we see sukuna’s real form has 4 arms. Implying that it was coincidental that sukuna’s form has 4 arms is just dumb. Sukuna’s binding vow was he has to use 2 arms to form the hand sign for the slash, he has the use a 3rd arm to point in the direction he wants the slash to go, and he has to use chants. What doesn’t make sense about the slash?
@@slayed9602 you’re clearly the dumb one here because if you read what I wrote, you’d understand i’m not criticizing the binding vow itself. The effects far outweigh the cost, which makes it a plot device simply to make the story progress. I have the right to not be ok with that. Here, I’ll make w binding vow. I vow to always have to wake up at 4 am instead of 6 for as long as I am at my current work place and to never say another curse word at said work place and in exchange my boss will go senile and I will get his position. And there is nothing he can do about it since he doesn’t even know such fatality is coming his way. That’s pretty much what sukuna did. He made a binding vow with himself, which targets a whole other sentient being (one of the strongest at that), and erased him from existence without him being able to do anything about it. BS doesn’t even begin to describe what that was.
@@DKing-du6xr Hope you realize binding vows dont scale with the user. Needing to point while also creating a handsign and chanting as a binding vow just to fire it instantly is an almost insane pay off because no one has more than 2 arms 💀. the fact sukuna used it to his advantage that he has 4 arms in his true form is proof of his IQ and isnt anything but him being better than gojo.
13:01 what u said is not at all what happened what happened was due to Gojo constantly repairing his burnt out ct after all the domain clashes it pushed his body/ brain to limit which caused him not to be able to due his domain anymore , which Gege drew a imagine showing how badly GoJo Brain was at that time which is why so much boood poured out . Its the same similar reason to why sakuan could do da anymore but It was not only cause he restored his ct through rct to the brain but was cause he got hit with uv that fried his brain As long as the user lets his ct cool down they both can do domain infinite times but they forced it by recover there burnt out rct if that makes sense
The manga sites where the 2 fought have the funnies comment section ever. The 2 sides are screaming at each other using terms like 'Fraudkuna' 'Go/Jo' and 'Goatjo'
I think a correction has to be made about Sukuna being able to win via his domain. I think Sukuna understood that his pure domain battle wasnt enough to beat Gojo, which is why he opted to use the Mahoraga strategy. The truth is Gojo's pride refused to take the safe approach and just teleport out of Sukuna's domain effect area as he constantly wastes his CE. Sukuna understood this so he used strat B, then misplaced and ended up at a disadvantage where he had to wait for Mahoraga's adapt to teach him to bypass infinity, which was a gamble and took a serious binding vow to pull off
Gojo can't teleport any time he wants, Kusakabe explained that. This is why Sukuna was in Gojo's face during the domain battles, even tho he could just let his domain do the work. Sukuna gives Gojo 10 seconds to breathe, and he loses.
@@Aki...544 He could do it after the first domain clash! Kusababe said he couldnt because of his burnt out curse energy after a domain is used which is why Gojo couldnt teleport out and why sukuna pressured him from getting away physically
Yuji was strong because he was born with one of Sukuna fingers, Sukuna swapping bodies doesnt nerf him physically because he transfers every finger to Megumi. Sukuna fighting with his CT and not trying to adapt doesnt give him the win in the earlier domain battles. Sukunas arsenal is not enough to put Gojo down and it was stated that he was never capable of using the fire arrow throughout the entire fight. That would include the first domain. I think you are giving Sukuna too much credit saying he didnt want to think too hard in finding a way to kill Gojo implying he could create some kind of new ability he never had before to bypass infinity and win the fight on his own. Saying Gojo is thinking that Sukuna is healing himself is speculation and has no proof at all. Its pretty obvious when someone is healing themselves because of the tell tell signs. Gojo hadnt seen a single base attack from Sukuna bypass infinity, Maharaga was dead and that was the only other way other than DA and DE to bypass infinity that Gojo knew about. Sukuna was also in no state to do anything that could harm Gojo in such a serious way. It is also the first time Sukuna uses the world slash. Combination of all these things leads up to Sukuna using a sneak attack by using a binding vow permanently nerfing himself to ensure Go/jo wouldnt be able to react and end the fight. We also never learn fully what Sukuna needed to do to use WCS before he nerfed himself. Seeing how he states it was practically impossible to learn and CT have prerequisite that need to be omitted it is more accurate to assume that sukuna would still need both hand sign and incantations before nerfing himself. Which would explain why he would rather nerf himself instead of using his Heian form with the unnerfed WCS because gojo would be able react to it then.
@@GabrielV65 "Guys can you break me out of prison? The honored one is an idiot and cant use plot armor this time. Please help me guys I cant do it on my own"
I think when Gojo thought he would win, is exactly when he lost. He simply thought he was so powerful that he would outskill and outstat sukuna, while sukuna was planning before and after the fight. Gojo did outstandingly well for how bad his mindset was though.
Man this video was greatly needed, haha this fight still has me for twist, this was a phenomenal breakdown and honestly im gonna have to watch it two or three more times to exactly understand every calculated move, their motivations and innovations these two performed on the fly. You definitely have a new subscriber now and i hope you breakdown more of these jjk battles especially explaining sukuna amping up his domain before yuta in gojos body shows up 🎊🎊🎊🎊🎊 cheers
Gojo's battle IQ is capped by the IQ of the mangaka. He could have pulled himself out of the domain with blue, he could have teleported when he wasn't using RCE(or someone else could have done that), could have engaged him in ranged combat, could have opted for comboing with literally anyone that has compatible CT. The hidden wheel and overadaptation were just both complete hacks that shouldn't have been there. Having "you lose" as an ability is a very poor writing. And the eyes got nerfed, it was supposed to have an ability.
mfs saying gojo wasnt trying to kill sukuna when the first thing he does is throw a 200% hollow purple at sukuna which sukuna can barely even react to in time
I think the reason why sukuna won despite having a lower combat IQ than gojo sukuna seemed to have gojo beat in certain other aspects of intelligence. As well as having arguably better resources than gojo had.
@@sugurugeto34 gojo's ego did NOT bring him down 😭😭the end attack practically spawned on top of infinity and was instant, unlike killing sukuna while weakened which would take at least another 10-30 seconds
@@sugurugeto34nah if that was the case the story would have pointed it out that gojos ego got the better of him, but that wasn't the case in the world of jjk ego is what takes you to the top like you stated.
What makes you think he had lower IQ ? Everything planned out how he wanted, he's older by at least a couple centuries, and fought more and stronger era opponents This is just a head cannon based on how well people think gojo did
This made me realise that Gege has explaining to do, Sukuna was able to use MS, 10S and domain amp at the same point during the domain clashes, he explained how he could use domain amp domain clashes but that should have stopped the adaptation process aswell, hpwever it was stated it adapted using the five UV opened
The thing is Sukuna had Megumi’s soul carry the adaptation process, which allowed him to proceed however he pleased. That and the fact that gojo didn’t know about his open barrier technique pretty guaranteed sukuna’s success.
@DKing-du6xr I understand this but the only issue is, Sukuna is in Megumis body and so for that to be possible 10S has to be active and in use. Unless you're saying it's not active. Unless you're saying he did what Higuruma did and didn't dispel 10S completely but had it active just a little bit enough to still use domain amp but that would explain then how he used his technique too and opened MS
@@abelanteson9196 sukuna only used domain amp on the 2nd domain clash , sukuna doesn't use it during 3rd, 4th and 5th clash as u can see gojo pulling along sukuna using blue during the 4th clash. Sukuna holds off gojo for 3min without domain amp.
1. STRATEGY: Sukuna knew EVERYTHING about Gojo, and planned the fight for the better part of 6 months. Gojo only knew about Cleave and Dismantle. I won't draw a conclusion 2. DOMAIN EXPANSION CLASH - Sukuna's mastery here is better than Gojo's - Gojo is faster at casting - Gojo DID use blue to "teleport" within Sukuna's domain, so no, he could teleport out if he wanted. He stayed in to discover more about Sukuna's technique - Sukuna loses his ability to expand his domain because of too much damage from Gojo - Gojo loses his ability to expand his domain I think this is a draw 3. HAND-TO-HAND COMBAT Gojo beat the crap out of Sukuna, even while going 1 vs 3 or with 1 arm. Even knocked him out Gojo wins 4. BLACK FLASH Yuji shrugged off Sukuna's Black Flash, and Maki somehow survived it twice, too. Gojo's Black Flash knocked Sukuna out clean Another win for Gojo OVERALL Overall, Sukuna ends up winning the fight, but I think the author seriously downplayed the fact that the fight was a many vs 1, where Gojo was willingly risking his life to see Sukuna's limits. I don't think Sukuna logically stands any chance if Gojo knows about his Curse Technique While Sukuna and Gojo are clearly much better than everyone else, I don't think enough people realise that Gojo is also significantly better than Sukuna at almost everything
Nope sukuna is a better jujustu scorcerer than gojo, he always find ways to improve his technique, for him being stronger was the only goal that's why he is called the fallen while gojo thinks about others and wanted to power up himself for saving other people that's a weakness, we was never meant to win
@@RsES-NR gojo wants to power up ??? don't make me laugh bro . gojo didn't even train hard to improve himself . and 1 month training was all about making other soccerer stronger . gojo is already lonely enough and if he become much stronger then there will be none to catch him . on the other hand sukuna is always trying to take revenge ( latest chap) . that's why he was planning to kill gojo using mahoraga from the start . a man trying to take revenge vs a man who just wants to end his loneliness .
Sukuna beat gojo with a technique that he only had for a month plus. The ten shadows is not stronger than the six eyes + limitless sukuna is just that skilled And everyone saying it's a 3v1 like sukuna had the advantage gojo literally has the ultimate defense skill. Sukuna can only hit him if he sacrifices all of his other skills
sukuna was trying to grow as a sorcerer being REALLY risky as said by gojo himself after his death and during the fight during his monologue, while gojo was just tryna kill sukuna. if sukuna genuinely just wanted to kill gojo, he wouldve used his true form giving him an advantage in a domain clash due to the extra set of hands and the extra mouth, he appeared bulkier and overrall physically stronger which would help him in hand to hand plus his cursed tool. if sukuna just wanted to go for the kill it wouldve been over the first time gojo lost a domain clash and im firmly a believer in that
The glaze is crazy. Miguel proved physical strength is useless against Gojo because he is stronger than Gojo physically. Gojo still hits harder cause his attacks are amped by blue. And you act like Sukuna wasn't trying to kill Gojo the entire time, he just couldn't. At the end he only succeeded due to a binding vow.
@@nanayawagyen-kokuro5069 that is under the impression sukuna is normal and would take gojos punches. He will have domain amplification on with his four arms. Then gojos advantage is negated. Sukuna with his extra hand can easily outlast gojo in a clash of domains.
sukuna knew how to win against him from ep 1 he felt the infinity there and set his goals on megumi from there as soon he got the megumis CT it was already over for gojo
I think Gojo’s freestyle improvisation during battle with martial art techniques like Wing Chun is interesting to compare with Sukuna’s premeditated long-term planning with his beast-like animal style fighting shows that whoever has the edge in just a split second can win. The methodology of both Sukuna and Gojo complement each other, with one would be more forceful and modernized (Gojo), the other methodical and primal (Sukuna). Great analysis!
I’m not here for debate but I want to make one thing clear. Gojo saying sukuna was holding back and was stronger than him is NOT against his character. Gojo has admitted that people Yuji, Megumi, and Yuta (maybe Hakari but I’m not totally sure) could all surpass him one day. Someone that can’t admit when someone’s stronger than them would not be able to do admit that someone has to potential to be either, especially with the lack of hesitation and ease that Gojo does. It’s been over half a year. Sukuna is the strongest, stop coping.
My take is Gojo didn't knew about World Cutting Slash, so when Sukuna did that, Gojo just thought he had more than I didn't knew. That is why he said, he was holding back. Also Gojo got humbled.
I do think that Sukuna "cheating" with the Ten Shadows is both perfectly fitting for his character and for the fact that he couldn't afford to use his Heian awakening until a last resort, as he's getting jumped right after winning. If he didn't have Ten Shadows I'm guessing he would've planned to use his Heian Form way earlier as a way to gain the upper hand in domain clashes and in general battle; having two free hands and an extra mouth when fighting is probably insanely useful when it comes to domain clashes, being able to maintain the Domain hand sign and possibly even use incantations to maintain it further aswell, all the while being able to fight. The downside of being Heian from the getgo is that if it doesn't work out and the battle extends and Sukuna takes damage, even if he ends up winning, he doesn't have a way to refresh himself for the sheer jumping that's about to take place.
the point is that it's not cheating, I don't think there was a rule that said "you can only use your innate technique in this fight" and Gojo knew that Sukuna could use the 10 shadows but he was still sure of winning...
@@Nandomo00literally how do people not get this , sukuna had no choice but to use megumi as a new vessle he was obviously gonna use his CT regardless and if people make this scenario of sukuna without 10s do they realize gojo without prison realm experience has to happen to for the fight to still be equal
@@AventSir well both gojo and sukuna have same level biq But the difference is sukuna plays long and risky games but gojo plays safe and short games. But what makes sukuna slightly better is that That he not only uses his own technique effectively but also can use others technique more effectively then thier original users + he can learn new techniques+ improving it + master it at really fast rate He literally learned , improved and master the technique by just watching in like few seconds Cause maharoga was take out right after he cutt gojo hand And both of them were in different situations cause sukuna not only had to deal with gojo but also to deal with rest of the cast but for gojo he only had to deal with sukuna Cause Others like yuta, yuji , maki etc can deal with kenjaku and they did And cause of that he had to relied on 10 shadows cause if he didn't relied on 10 shadows then he would have to use all of his techniques + true form
Watching this made me realise 2 things 1 Sukuna would won even without Mahoraga since Gojo got brain damaged from overuse but Sukuna got it form Unlimited Void 2 I when i read the chapter i was a little angerd but it was not that Gojo had losed not even that it was offscreen no its because this amazing fight ended
If Sukuna didn't have Mahoraga, Gojo could just spam Purple and win. Mahoraga literally made it possible for Sukuna to bypass limitless. Y'all don't think.
@@GOJOANDSUKUNAFAN it doesn’t make sense because he saying sukuna would have won without mahoraga because they both gojo and sukuna got brain damage which makes no sense
It's not about outsmarting, if you have a fire ability and I have water I just directly counter you, mahoraga is the same way to a lot of gojo's attacks bc he didn't know most of what sukuna could do and sukuna knew everything gojo could do by being in itadoris body Not only did sukuna need full info advantage to win but also a technique that isn't his as he couldn't have won without 10 shadows, and it was still a close fight even tho sukuna had every advantage
You clearly never seen a chess game between two greats. Sure, technically the other one will have an "inferior battle IQ" but that is also a misrepresentation. If the IQ difference is by 1 point then is the gap really that far to warrant calling the other guy's IQ inferior? Also, luck plays a huge huge role in fights. This was no Sukuna vs. Yoruzo where the gap is so big. Gojo stomps Sukuna in hand to hand but Sukuna stomps in amount of curse technique and energy. They both have talent and anybody who says Sukuna is about hard work and Gojo is not has a very inferior IQ next to a snail. They both probably worked as hard (we don't know yet about Sukuna's background as a human or non-human before he became king of curses). Clearly, Sukuna was not born a king of curses (if he did then all the allegations of him as a fraud was true because he was just the better version of Gojo who still has to train). A fight between greats just needs a small window of opportunity to end the fight. Real fights between two great samurai warrior ends in just 1 swing/slash. One just has to be faster by a microsecond. So yeah, it aint that simple. If you really think it was just that, well, too bad this kind of complex writing is not for you. Watch dragon ball fights instead.
At least, I commend your effort in creating this video, but there are several errors and ommissions that have ultimately brought you to the wrong conclusion. At 9:45, Sukuna's domain was not damaged directly. When Gojo used the small domain strategy, it was sturdy enough to buy Gojo enough time (3 minutes) to inflict damage on directly Sukuna which caused Sukuna to be unable to maintain his domain. As Gojo was directly damaging Sukuna from hand to hand combat, Sukuna was damaging Gojo's barrier with his open barrier, and both barriers happened to fall at the same time. They weren't on a time limit, it was more of a race to bring down each others barrier. At 10:08, yes Sukuna was playing it risky but there was a serious reason why. Sukuna could have taken the faster route but he wanted to get rid of unlimited void. However, at the time, he didn't even know Gojo was going to break his own brain by repeatedly healing CT burnout. Prior to this fight Sukuna did not even know you could refresh cursed technique burnout, so you can imagine his plan didnt account for it and he was more focused on weakening/exhausting Gojo by repeatedly breaking his domain and exhausting his CE. At 11:00, a domain expansion fight is like a tug of war. Several things like refinement, preciseness and your physical condition will affect whether you win that tug of war. The damage Gojo inflicted on Sukuna meant that Sukuna had to heal before he could expand again which resulted in delay. That slight delay gave the tug of war advantage to Gojo and resulted in Gojo damaging Sukuna faster than Sukuna could break Gojo's barrier. Once Sukuna's domain collapsed, there was nothing cancelling unlimited void, so Sukuna took a direct hit. At 12:17, using reverse cursed technique does not prevent you from using your cursed technique. Yuji showed this and likewise purple would be impossible if you couldn't use both at the same time. Like I said earlier, Sukuna lost precision because he needed to heal himself first before he could expand his domain. Simple as that. It seems that immediately Sukuna copied how to refresh cursed technique burnout, he knew that Gojo would hit a limit and so adjusted his plan. (I dare say Sukuna lied about Mahoraga's adaptation, it takes less amount of spins to adapt to limitless than he admitted but this is still something I am piecing together). At 12:26, Gojo hit a limit specifically because of refreshing CT burnout too many times, not because he was expanding his domain too much. With their level of efficiency, Sukuna and especially Gojo can expand their domains almost indefinitely. At 14:28, normally using domain amplification or any other technique would dispel the 10 shadows but Sukuna and later Higuruma are skillful enough to only cause their technique to be paused instead of dispelled. You can't use 2 cursed techniques at the same time unless you are Yuta. This also makes me thing that Kenjaku's body hopping technique is not a continuous use technique otherwise it should have been impossible to use anti gravity technique while body hopping is active. At 17:16, adaptation is not affected or slowed by Sukuna using other Shikigami. At 22:08, it has been shown that Sukuna can instantly activate his technique without showing that initial spark. Furthermore, he used a binding vow to forego all requirements for the world cutting slash. If you also consider that after that 2nd purple, Sukuna had only domain amplification left to fight with, Gojo and everyone else were not expecting any surprises but isn't deception the true nature of a sorcerer? Sukuna was better at deception. Something you also failed to consider is that the win conditions for Gojo and Sukuna are different. Gojo only needed to beat Sukuna, while Sukuna has to throw down with the whole cast after Gojo, he needed to have more assurances plus he wanted a permanent solution to limitless. Sukuna was the better fighter overall.
I mean can we blame sukuna or gojo? Gojo hardly had any info on sukunas CT or abilities even the open domain was still a rumor jujutsu high didnt fully believe in. While sukuna had kenjaku and itadoris POV giving sukuna many counterpoints he can try and when he saw mahoraga he just saw the killing blow. Gojo was out there improvising not because he couldnt outsmart sukuna but more so cause he simply didnt have enough information to actually try anything.
My only question is why in the whole series is sukuna the only one to abuse binding vows when everyone knows they exist? It kind of feels like an easy cop out because only during the shinjuku fight do we see “oh I didn’t die because I used a binding vow to do this or that and I used another binding vow to do this and that” but none of the JJK students or Gojo get to use binding vows when they’re in trouble like sukuna?
Matter of experience. Binding vows can be used by everyone but Sukuna knows how to use them properly in battle due he living through Heian Era which was like continuous battle Era, that is why Sukuna can change its function to make it suitable for opponent. If Gojo, Yuta were from Heian Era, they could have been same like Sukuna in binding vows.
For me i believe that it is in fact not close as Sukuna is not stupid, he knows for sure that after he defeated Gojo he would still have to deal with the other sorcerers and the chapters have showed us rightfully so, Uraume is kept at bay by Hakari, and Sukuna is attempting to scower through the many “backup plans” that they have come up with, and now he is facing characters who could very well rival so much as 10 fingers of his strength. If he did not have 10 shadows, Gojo dies quicker, and Sukuna gets taken down quicker as well
It makes no sense for Sukuna to be worried about ANYBODY after defeating Gojo. Literally everyone else, Yuuta included, are fodder to him. The only reason the fight is still going on is because of Gojo's damage but even that is wearing off. Yuji hit him with like 10 black flashes in a row and it's doing literally nothing, Sukuna swatted him away like a fly once he got bored. The only person who could MAYBE do something is Hikari because he's immortal but he's playing footsies with Sukuna's caddie.
Sukuna won fair and square, but he had a crutch of 10 shadows. Gojo wins against if it was the Hein Era Sukuna since he doesnt have 10 showed simple. End of the debate. Both are GOATS and the strongest. My only complain is how gege showed gojo accepting his defeat in the after life. Saying "he didnt go all out", that was a major bummer for me. We all knew gojo would die so the rest of the cast will have something to do, but the way he 'gave up' his strongest title was clearly Gege's last dig at Gojo since he has hated him from the start.
The whole afterlife thing with Gojo makes me question if anything other than Mahoraga’s adaption could’ve beaten Gojo. Cause with Heian Era Sukuna and his Flame Arrow I kinda feel like there are ways around them. We saw that Flame Arrow it takes a long time to charge up giving time for Ui Ui to teleport some people out of its range so I don’t why Gojo couldn’t either if he had time to. I personally would’ve loved to see a clash between Sukuna’s Flame Arrow vs. Gojo’s Hollow Purple. And with Sukuna’s Heian Era form while it does give Sukuna better H2H, being the perfect body for a sorcerer it gives up Sukuna’s main crux in his plan against Gojo that being the Ten Shadows. So like while Gojo might be disappointed Sukuna didn’t unleash everything he had it certainly wouldn’t have been easy on any front for Sukuna. The only sure fire way to beat Gojo was his Domain Expansion and Gojo after being in the prison realm found his way out of that mess, don’t see why he couldn’t do it again.
He said he felt satisfied having gone all out and had a great battle, and knew Sukuna was just that strong. What was he gonna say "aw man he cheated! :c" on some loser shit. Was graceful in defeat. And him not accepting it makes him look like a bitch/like he'll come back and win the next round (which is super cringe)
@@THED3ADLY7 It's not that difficult, dude. Gojo's limitless can literally make NOTHING touch him. Sukuna's fire arrow would've done NOTHING, which is why he didn't bother use it in the fight. So, no, nothing other than Mahoraga would've beaten Gojo. Which is why Sukuna showed such interest in Megumi the entire manga. That being said, it would've been interesting to see Sukuna actually pull out hidden Heian tech against Gojo.
Enjoying the video thus far. I believe Gojo vs Sukuna was one of the best fights in shonen canon, but it was one ultimately while enjoyed fans largely misunderstood. First, with the framing. It’s a fight where objectively the strongest in history fights the strongest in current time, but Akutami framed it in a way Gojo could seem superior. This is done visually with him coming in yoked, and Sukuna seeming very slim. However, Gojo’s dress paying homage to Toji evokes the similar symbolism of an underdog facing the heights of jujutsu. Jujutsu is an art of subtraction, and thus - the worlds greatest sorceror is unsurprisingly a man who is constantly subtracting elements to his arsenal, which he uses for various aims-- Strategy, personal pleasure and so forth. An interesting addition this fight has was, it’s dialogue is almost as important as what happens on screen, and you can’t really understand the fight without listening to the analyses by guys like Kusakabe. Without it, you can’t realize how Akutami sets up the finale and the eventual twists. There’s also a minor overlooked aspect: Gojo can’t really see dismantle, he can see the other aspects-- which is highlighted by Sukuna mentioning Maki. This is controversial, but it has been restated that the true benefit of 6Eyes is largely its efficiency and ability to maximize Limitless. It’s visual acuity is more like an ambient infrared, and it’s use is actually taxing.
Sukuna clearly had the better strategy. that 200% hollow purple was not a good way to start the battle. We know Gojo can pop a domain in 0.2 seconds. He could have teleported in with blue and popped unlimited void and ended the fight right there.
@christiandior9835 yeah,he was too slow to pop up a domain or make any binding vows to use one arm.He was cooked there and gojo simply didn't expand his domain.
@@Mugen_AA SMH I didn't say it'd be entertaining from a fan perspective. I'm talking about a hypothetical if they were to fight without entertaining the audience.
@@Sukuna1983 That’s not what’s funny. What’s funny is that you believe this would work and the fight would be done with it as simple as that. 0.2 domain might be fast from our perspective but Sukuna can react to such speeds and pop his domain as well. Like how someone comes up with such bs is beyond me. Even Mahito could replicate the 0.2 domain.
Nah. Sukuna could've killed him easy if Maho wasn't there in the Domains, he had to take a Risker approach which maho was.. gojo was therefore not hit sukuna by 0.01. Seconds and dies in the next clash, the end
If we're being honest here, this argument doesn't mean the fight wasn't close, if anything it means that it was extremely close. Sukuna got backed up into a corner multiple times more than Gojo, and was forced to retreat and use Mahoraga as a bodyguard while he healed with RCT. Say what you will about it, call it cope, but I still think world slash was still a major asspull. I get it, Gojo isn't the protagonist of this story, and he was never meant to kill Sukuna, but Jesus an offscreen like that was criminal and undeserved.
People really have no idea about Sukuna's slash and six eyes. I'll say it again for the 1000th time that Gojo can't see sukunas slashes. Chapter 224 , Page 12 and 13th:- sukuna sends a normal dismantle towards Gojo but his infinity protects him and he sees back to figure what happened. I also know the explanation. His six eyes helps him figure out about the technique when it is used once but he needs to see the technique getting used with his normal eyes and Slashes are invisible, so gojo just can't see the slash , the info he gets about slash is likely nothing or invisible. Maki can because of her HR Miguel can because of his technique to feel the curses (CE) Kusakabe knew because sukuna announced that he was about to do the world slash ("You know what's next")
This take is innately wrong. 1.the dismantle never hit gojos infinity, gojos infinity divides the space between himself and whatever is infront of him until it comes to a complete stop, if the dismantle hit gojos infinity its literally physically impossible for it to have hit the building behind him, it would have come to a complete stop. Sukuna intentionally aimed at the building behind Gojo as gojo states in the second To last page of chapter 228, "inside the domain, he can't use architectural structure to attack me like before", confirming that sukuna had intentionally aimed at the building to take advantage of its architectural structure. 2.We quite clearly see that Gojo actively knew something was coming towards him as his facial expression changes right after sukuna fired the dismantle and reverts to normal after it hits the building behind him. As I will elaborate on further Gojo looked back because though he can see a dismantle coming towards him(the six eyes can see the flow of cursed energy) he can't accurately figure out the scale or effect of the attack will be. 3.It makes literally no sense and would be a living plothole for the six eyes not to be able to see dismantle to a degree, this has nothing to do with the six eyes being able to tell someone's curse technique, its the fact the six eyes can canonically see the FLOW OF CURSED ENERGY in 1600px quality to the point it can even see the invisible man toji fushigiro who has NO cursed energy purely on the fact he's an anomoly in the flow. So the eyes that can see the flow of cursed energy can't tell that cursed energy with a crazy high output is flowing towards him at unbelivibly high speeds compared to the cursed energy literally everywhere else in the environment. Theirs literally no way to reason that out when even kusakabe said he could see the cursed energy occurance caused by sukunas dismantle confirming they do emit cursed energy. Gojo might not be able to see dismantle in all its glory but theirs no reason for him to not be able to see highly concentrated cursed energy flowing to him at an unbelivibly high speed, until their is more undeniably HARD evidence(more than gojo looking back at a building after dismantle is launched) their should be no reason to accept a NONE-CANON theory that would be a living plot hole and severely contradict CANON information we have on the six eyes.
@@coolguy2058 well thats a good counter and i somewhat believe it but still doesn't change the fact that Gojo can't see the slashes at least that's what I think from his reaction
@@coolguy2058 I like to think that Gojo with six eyes is definitely capable of seeing dismantle. But just because he can see it doesn't mean he can block it in time. Dismantle is hard to block even for Mahoraga. It's just THAT fast to the point that Kashimo who by statement already surpassed human limit was still caught.
@@milesrieger7449 yes he could’ve man that’s why he was disappointed when gojo was gonna die cause he didn’t live up to the title of strongest that he’s been hearing so much
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question : can gojo use a binding vow🤔?
@@BerzerkerHercules777everyone can it’s basics of jujutsu
@@BerzerkerHercules777 I mean still cheating thats like saying everyone can acsess hacks or cheat codes
@@Wayvyobi I mean still cheating thats like saying everyone can acsess hacks or cheat codes
Yuta won’t make a BINDING VOW to recreate gojos absolutely broken ability used during the 1st Gojo x Sukuna fight.
If you don’t remember, Gojo creates a remote hollow purple bomb which is effectively a mine. He created orbs of red and blue that when clashed together create a purple explosion. It completely obliterates anything in a certain radius.
Sukuna was able to sacrifice his world cutting slashes ease of use in order to have a one use unnoticeable slash that killed Gojo.
Gojo could’ve at anytime before Sukuna learned what he needed from mahoraga. Done a binding vow that would allow him to surround Sukuna in a minefield of hollow purples thus returning Sukuna to nothingness.
Yuta has the all the memories of watching the fight, mei mei crows, plus Gojos memories to absolutely know all of this.
Yuta for some reason won’t just sacrifice something to obliterate Sukuna into oblivion and it’s an absolute joke.
This fight should’ve been over as soon as Gojo’s overpowered abilities got a second chance.
Apparently this prodigy Yuta was willing to sacrifice everything but for some reason won’t do a binding vow lmao.
It’s boring writing at this point. There were many ways to make this story interesting even with Gojo being overpowered. If you want to know any possible plot line that would’ve been cool. Feel free to ask.
The whole fight was Gojo throwing things at a wall hoping it would stick and Sukuna trying to replicate a TH-cam video he saw
good god best description till date
no, Gojo was trying to defeat Sukuna without harming Megumi. If Gojo wasn't trying to keep Megumi safe, Sukuna would've been dead before the first adaptation. He is a fraud
@@greasycheese8095 gojo fans can look at the story spoonfeeding and telling them that gojo went all out
(characters wondering if gojo forgot about megumi, gojo saying he’ll worry about megumi after the fight, gojo saying sukuna didn’t even go all out implying that gojo did)
@greasycheese8095 cope is a real thing huh?
@@greasycheese8095Gojo LITERALLY crushed Sukuna’s heart, and was going to crush his lungs too. Gojo was ABSOLUTELY going for the kill, you Gojo meatriders are just on some serious copium
Gojo was improvising at the moment to kill Sukuna as fast as possible while Sukuna was planning from the start to improve his kit with multiple backups
nah, Sukuna would have lost even with world cutting slash, if it was used normally since even maki can dodge it, but Sukuna pulled a binding vow at the last min to catch gojo off-guard, if I have to say gojo has pretty good improvising skills, but goddamn can Sukuna outperform him using binding vows on the spot.
@@msp1925literally killed yuta with it just because you can dodge it doesn’t mean he automatically wins tf?
you all dumb that was not world cutter slash that is just boosted dismatle you read with eyes close I see
@@Wayvyobi wdym automatically?
there will be a spark right before a big attack and the world slash will definitely have it, gojo wouldn't mistake such an attack and take it head-on because of his infinity. All I'm saying is Even Sukuna would have lost if he is bad at improvising in mid-battle (which he isn't)
I think in Sukuna’s case, he does do SOME improvising, but he’s clearly more of a character that quickly analyzes that makes a strategy in response. This is often shown through his analysis and reaction to each of the cursed techniques and abilities he comes across throughout the series. Even in the heat of battle, he’ll formulate strategies on the fly when new variables enter the equation
I believe that when it comes to actual strategy, Sukuna has the leg up, but when it comes to improvisation, it's Gojo's game.
Indeed.
Sukuna dominates the two categories !Sukuna used a makeshift domain with one hand and a half scrambed brain on the fly☠️,he also uses shikigamis power without summoning them ,he came up with passing off the burden of maho adaptation to others,he came up with using DA to reduce enemy attack output,domain amplification and domain simultaneously,Coming up with the strategy of turning off his domain sure hit entirely and touching his Gojo to not get hit by UV on the flyetc.
Gojo on the other hand only has unlimited hollow purple and changing his barrier conditions which sukuna can also by the way.
@@Weebgamer236 let Gojo get something bro gaddam sukuna will be fine relax
@@effortless4588 gojo has better iq,hands,speed, AP and hax
And even then that's the meguna form, he speed blitzed blue, gojo/yutas reaction, and bypassed infinity with just domain amp, while being extremely nerfed
Gege showed this on the newest chapter and the narrative been showing how different hein vs meguna is
It's not even is no letting gojo get anything, it's geges narrative that just tells it how it is @@Weebgamer236
we triggering the whole community with this one
Nah I’m a Sukuna fan and respect this opinion
@@InvedianI mean… u can like both 😂
@@Invedian its quite easy to respect something when it is correct no?
Good, we need gojo fans to wake up and stop huffing the copium 😂
@@Pizza-m5t not really Sukuna should still win but I see why now a days specifically people favor Gojo
Good analysis. Although I think the main reason why Sukuna is able to land World Cutting Slash is because Gojo simply couldn't anticipate it harming him. Infinity works automatically after all. Gojo likely saw that Sukuna was gonna launch a dismantle. What he couldn't foresee is Sukuna being able to not only replicate Mahoraga's technique that easily but also seemingly does it without any drawbacks (it's revealed in later chapters how it was done).
sukuna just used binding vow that made it instant
Also the binding vow lol
He can launch dismantle without moving, which is an insane level of subtraction. Kusakabe couldn't even see it coming (I don't think he even saw the spark?) And he used the binding vow to send WCS in a similar manner once. This likely caught Gojo off guard bc the only other dismantle sukuna sent, he used a finger gun. A very nice feint by Sukuna
@@deionn4 he made a binding vow, literally stated as to why he was able to kill gojo
That shows that gojo battle iq is lower
Gojo didn’t send that 200% hollow purple to end the fight, he’s a flashy type of dude and just did that to start the fight, he never actually thought that attack would kill sukuna especially from that distance. It’s kinda like getting a feel for how strong he is.
Indeed. In ch. 223. 200% hollow purple atrack.
Sukunq said it himself the distance and the buildings caught on the 200% hollow purple made it way way way weaker than a normal one if hit directly
There’s so many different interpretations of this fight it’s amazing I personally thought it showed Gojo was scared if not to fight Sukuna then to die
I have to disagree, no one & nothing has ever survived a normal hollow purple , as far as Gojo is concerned a 200% Hollow purple will either kill Sukuna or seriously damage him & he’ll have to use a sh*t ton of CE for RCT plus he gets to gauge how strong Sukuna is so that he can mentally register that he can’t afford to not give it his all. Gojo is the flashy type like you said but I don’t think he’s doing it here. But I could be wrong.
@@InvedianI have to ask, if he was scared don’t you think teleporting to Sukuna’s blind spot before Sukuna realised Gojo has pulled up & using infinite void immediately would stand a chance of ending the fight the quickest? You didn’t factor in that Gojo has a superiority complex.
People miss how much Megumi helped sukuna in the domain clash. From the moment the domain clashes began sukuna had megumi soul adapt to UV. If sukuna had to do it himself he wouldn't be able to use Domain Amplification inside his Domain without affecting the adaption. It wasnt a 3v1 it was a 4v1
Exactly, why is no one mentioning this?
The problem with this is because you are implying that Sukuna needed Megumi. He had his body fresh and available, so of course he would take advantage of his elite CT and soul. However even in the vid he says if Sukuna hadn’t risked taking damage from UV, he would have won win Gojo exhausted himself. This indicates that in his Heian form for example, he would win as he wouldn’t have megumi and thus wouldn’t take the risk which basically forced him to learn the World cutter
@@dripg0djv280 people keep saying that, but we have yet to see a technique Sukuna could do (completely devoid of Mahoraga’s adaptation) that could end Gojo lol. The whole point of world cutter was that it was derived from Mahoragas adaptation, which only could have happened with Sukuna using Megumis soul as a dummy
@@josemariantoniofajardo2941 malevolent shrine did a number on Gojo lol. He needed RCT to survive. A Gojo prior to any black flashes to refresh his RCT + Heian era form applying pressure plus potentially Fuga is enough to kill Gojo without his DE
@@dripg0djv280 yep, did such a number on him that Sukuna couldn’t even land a single punch on him hand to hand lol within his own domain lmao 🤣
Doesn't Sukuna have all of Megumi's memories too? Sukuna has the memories of the 1 kid who knew the most about Gojo lol
I don't think so. Getting memories is kenjaku thing, that to after death.
@@dhwanishah8222 Kenjaku taught Sakuna techniques like converting things into curse objects. that's how he got Megumi body. Safe to say they work similarly, thats how Sakuna could just fight on when yuji lost consciousness. Sakuna knew everything and hence gojo stood no chance.
It's not like Gojo was Megumi's surrogate father. I'd bet Megumi knew just about as much of Gojo as Yuji did. And I doubt Gojo shared any weaknesses with him, as if there were any. The only things besides Mahoraga that could bypass Gojo's limitless were cursed tools that Gojo had already destroyed.
@@jase276 I think it's more likely he does. Megumi has known Gojo for 10 years, there's flashbacks shown of Gojo just hanging out with Megumi on his off time, when Megumi was a child. I think it's improbable that he wouldn't know more than Yuji does or wouldn't have a thorough understanding about the limitless technique. After all, in order for Megumi to surpass Satoru like Gojo demands, he'd need to be able to quantify how strong he is.
@@jase276 megumi knew better about the limitless definitely...afterall gojo told that megumi had the potential to defeat him due to his techniques...so its safe to say that gojo told him about his techniques...and it def was gojo who helped him grasp the basics of the 10 shadow
Thumbnail is enough to tell me that I'm about to watch a masterclass breakdown
Damn so you b watching jjk content too then?
Bro went from making the content to watching it🥶🥶🥶😊
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Gege pulling the most complex chess game with 2 of the most sexiest characters in recent manga history and it's working beautifully. Truly a piece of media I would recommend to anyone
If you think Sukuna with four eyes and two mouths is sexy, you got problems 💀💀💀
@@sageoverheavenLet a weeb dream, crodie.
Nah man jawline has is immaculate 🤌🏻@@sageoverheaven
@@sageoverheaventhey so delusional acting like sukuna isnt ugly as shit in his true form😭😭
Gojo is Hikaru Nakamura and Sukuna is Carlsen Magnus
gojo called sukuna as handy as he is when he improvised the piercing blood attack
When I hear it again now, that's sound kinda arrogant.
@@windygrass9807gojo self proclaimed he was the honored one, he’s arrogant asf
@@CertainlyCynicalyet he still admitted Sukuna might of won without ten shadows and he said this knowing Sukuna was holding back and not knowing about heian😭
@@king_chungusheian era sukuna gets smoked
@savanacheetah2562 cope
Gojo was fighting a losing battle from the start because Sukuna more or less knew all of Gojo’s abilities before the fight while Gojo knew next to nothing.
One month of prep time and the students didn’t tell him anything 😀😀
@@jovanidivine5606 astonishing right?? first instance wasthe domain battle
@@khotunkhan3950it was gojo fault for showing sukuna his domain and even with knowledge he couldn't do shit about open barrier in the first domain
@@GOJOANDSUKUNAFAN says who??
@@GOJOANDSUKUNAFAN what you are saying doesn't even negate my point lmao
The main reason Gojo lost was because he lacked information in comparison to Sukuna.
Sukuna knew exactly how Gojo's entire kit worked, down to the fact that touching Gojo exempts you from his domain.
Gojo knew the basics of the 10S, and possibly that his domain was open, along with the fact that Sukuna has slashing attacks.
Gojo couldn't have known that Mahoraga could adapt via someone else taking the hits for it, or that it could adapt via Megumi's soul while Sukuna had his own domain open.
Gojo had the better BIQ, H2H skill, technique, and an equally strong domain, he just lacked the information.
Even with that I still think that the Ten shadows, mainly mahoraga was Sukuna's best resource, without it he would've died plenty of times during the fight.
@@chrono2208And without Mahoraga Sukuna wouldn't have gotten hit by UV and would've torn Gojo to pieces
@enenra6417 nah, you can't ignore gojos regeneration feats during sukunas domain expansion. Legit all sukuna needs to be is 0.1 seconds late and bros cooked 😂
@@kevinosiebo6032 either that or gojo doing a black flash and knocking him out.
If he hadn’t been hit by unlimited void, there is nothing that indicates he wouldnt be able to open Shrine 2 or three more times, as he used the ct brain burnout less than Gojo. As stated in the vid, after Gojo couldnt open his domain, the battle was extended because Sukuna risked getting hit by UV by utilizing his adaptation strategy. This also made him unable to use any ct inside the de clashes, which also contributed. Sukuna in his Heian form wouldn’t have risked this and cooked Gojo
Didn’t know Avent was chill enough to drop a Gojo vs Sukuna video 🥶
For real, this Tuesday. 😮
"To remedy this, Sukuna made another Biding Vow..."
Plot vow LMAOAO
@@liam9285 hold that for me real quick
And gojo hit black/plot flash where sukuna didn't
@@sagarrawat4121 how is that black flash even plot lol. Im guessing you dont even know what plot means. His tactic to hit red at his back and then hit him with blue was not plot however being with almost no cursed technique 1 arm and barely standing using enough output to offscreen gojo with black flash that is just gege not knowing how to defeat gojo (plot)
@@pathogermic3662 i think you didn't understand what actually happened there sukuna use binding vow to send last slash and there is no confirmation about slash does gojo able to see slash or not regardless of 6 eyes, and if black is not plot armor then how binding vow was??? I only said BF is plot because some gojo fan consider binding vow as a plot but not black flash, why?? Black flash literally use as a plot(with there additional buff)in manga whether it is for sukuna or gojo,
Atlast if you consider binding vow is plot then you should also consider black flash as plot device and if not then neither one of them.
And for sukuna condition he has is transformation which he can use to transform into heian form and send that slash without binding vow.
The way they utilize each specific cursed techniques from different sorcerers and curses truly reminds me how NEN was utilized in Hunter x Hunter.
Yeah. Without Ten Shadows though Sukuna would've put up the same kind of fight Netero did against Meruem though
I also remembered that "Binding Vows" are basically "Conditional Nen".
@@Zoapmangege is a hxh fan afterall
@@boozadosur smoking crack. he wouldve won the 3 minute domain
i can't agree more i just forgot how much i loved the power system in HxH !
Fantastic analysis. Now I realize that if Gojo simply had more info on the 10 shadows technique he probably couldve won or at least make it to heian era sukuna but, of course, info like that would be impossible for him to obtain because not a single ten shadows user had defeated mahoraga and the only one still alive was posessed by sukuna himself.
one possible theory about open domains could be that Sukuna was the original creator of an open domain, and since whoever he would use it against would die, then information about it would not be common, however someone like kenjaku finding out about, and then proceeding to learn the technique makes a lot of sense considering the type of character that he is
i think it's the opposite, Kenjaku seems to be really ancient, like way before the haien era from some ofthe participants in the Culling games so as a master of barrier techniques himself it's likely either him or tengen was the original inventor of open DE. I think Sukuna might have witnessed him use it and copied it like he did with Gojo's rerouting method.
Nope, we already know Open Domain is a result of BINDING VOW, basically trading the Barrier (to prevent enemies from escaping) for GREATER AREA OF EFFECT of the domain (which will also result in greater amount of Debris to fuel the Furnace)
@@fg009letyrds8
That’s not the case at all. Open domains are literally described as an artist making a painting in thin air rather on a canvas (normal domains)
But they explained Sukuna utilized a binding vow in addition to extend his range since open domains give the opponent a chance to escape.
Thats why Sukuna’s domain is so broken. Dude made a superior form of domain and then used its one downside as a condition in order to activate massive range as a trade off. Essentially Sukuna cheated the system. And continues to do so to this day because he’s apparently a god at abusing binding vows.
Realistically kenjaku was probably the one who made that
@@zorro8027this is actually a weakness people don't seem to realize gojo could've taken advantage of under the right circumstances during his domain battle with sukuna. if gojo ever left and went for the smart option of attacking sukuna outside the range of his domain until he could catch him in IV and sukuna somehow survived and decided to close off his domain the next time, he would lose the innate advantage his domain has over gojo's since he would be violating the binding vow he made for more range by allowing the opponent an opportunity to escape. basically gojo was probably the only person in the verse who had an answer for sukuna's domain and instead gaygay chose to have him do the sorcerer equivalent of bashing his head into a brick wall over and over again.
Knowledge is power, and sukuna had knowledge on all of gojos abilities. Thats why he won. Besides thematic reasoning
Sukuna only knew about IV + Gojo literally has six eyes and has every knowledge about 10 shadows
@@Raphael-slayssukuna knows about gojo’s abilities lmao he’s literally seen everything
@@venotti86 like what ? Aside from IV + doesn't gojo have every single knowledge about 10 shadöws+ bro literally has six eyes , so who was at disadvantage 🤡
@@Raphael-slaysman literally fought a 3v1 against a dude who knew everything he could do. I’d say yea Sukuna had the bigger advantage.
Nobody even told Gojo that Sukuna has an open domain or what Mahoraga can do and you want us to believe he had more info in the fight???
16:50 idk if you have noticed but there are times such as these where you repeat the same line twice
Yes they recorded the video in one take and didn’t edit it
@@weloveyourobby5028 i love the dedication to the craft
I was hoping someone mentioned this, I thought I was hearing things 😂
He repeats the line if he stutters
its cuz he stole this whole video from a reddit post lol
i like how the binding vow part was out of the topic since that was the only way he could've ever done anything against gojo while being badly injured
and it was clearly out of desperation
yes it was out of desperation. there was no other way that would work on Gojo. also do we think gojo cant use binding vows? lol
Heh, cry harder. Apparently no one is resourceful or creative enough to make binding vow.
It wasn't just a binding vow. Ya boy couldn't do it on his own and had to take over another body to kill him. Lmao. Sukuna was definitely stronger in the end... Butttt gojo couldn't kill him(to save megumi), and sukuna needed someone else's strength and technique. @@windygrass9807
He could've easily just transformed to heal himself but that would mean there'd be no need for the wcs binding vow to nerf the ability and all the students will be dead. Sorry but gojo never stood a chance
3 comments that are already headcanon, just proves my point that sukuna was just that desperate and it doesn't justify his dominance over gojo.
22:36 so the reason the world slash hit GoJo was
Cause sakuna made a binding vow that allowed the slash to be instant meaning there was no spark and basically no way to react to it from GoJo that’s why it hit him
Where is that stated btw? I’m just curious?
I think it may also be the fact that gojo may have sensed it, but like what was the dismantle gonna do with infinity on? So he probably thought infinity would stop the so called slash. Maybe he couldn't react fast enough or maybe he didn't detect it as a threat
Yeah and in return he would have to use hand signs and incantations next time
@@ExplosiveGrapein a later chapter where it’s explained what the conditions for the world slash are. I forget the number, but it’s after Yuta’s domain goes down.
So an ass pull then. If Sukuna could throw such a strong attack why wouldn't Gojo be able to get some crazy RCT through a vow?
Nobody ever talks about Gojo's mental health in that fight.
Even if you ignore his whole character up until shibuya , once he got sealed.
The prison realm had been mentioned to destroy a person's mind , or at least mess with them.
Once he came out of the prison realm gojo had no crazy reaction , which many fans were mad at gege for as they excpected Gojo would have some mebtal problems when he came out.
Maybe Gojo simply pretended to be mentaly alright for his student's?
He was also only in there for a week sooo
@@Lukas-py4dr as i said that is also ignoring all his character up until shibuya , it was pretty damn clear he always suffered from lonelyness till geto came along , and like everybody else geto eventually geto saw Gojo for his strength alone.
His character is incredibly deep and most people still only see him for just begin "the strongest"
@@Lukas-py4dr YEAH for them for gojo he was way longer in it
@@Morebluethanblueeverycouldbe funny how gojo says otherwise. The cast was just speculating before releasing him.
@@Lukas-py4dr i was looking and we both were wrong 2 weeks
Im not gonna lie you gave me great knowledge of this fight. And give me great respect to both fighters.
i agree. both are such great characters and i wish people could just accept that instead of having a war
So basically...
Sukuna = Prep
Gojo = Adaptation (No Pun)
Gojo has the edge in battle IQ and overall physical stats. Sukuna however was the better prepper and devilishly put the full potential of the 10 Shadows tech into full throttle.
Gojo does things on the fly. Sukuna did his homework. Because let's be real even if Sukuna could figure out a way past Infinity/Limitless, it would of been too late since Gojo's innovative/adaptive prowess would of blitzed and overtaken Sukuna. He legitimately needed Mahoraga to end it quicky before Gojo continued to a more brutal execution or finishing blow.
Overall this fight was very much a 50/50. And both took a high risk high reward mentality. Only one was going to come out alive, Gojo knew his win would decide the future of the world, Sukuna knew so long as Gojo Satoro lived his thousand year plan would crumble. Megumi really was that game changer.
Sukuna had no more prep than Gojo, he didn't take Megumi's body to get past limitless, he took it because he was interested in the Ten Shadows. That's shown because Sukuna was interested before he knew about Infinity. He just had a plan, just like Gojo had a plan for him.
If Sukuna wanted to kill Gojo without using Mahoraga, he would have just stuck to the domain clashes and kept Domain Amplification on when fighting, meaning that Gojo wouldn't be able to stop Shrine before his DE get's destroyed, and eventually run out of Domains to use. However, Sukuna rather just take those cards away from Gojo instead, and while he's at it get Mahoraga to show him how to get past infinity without a domain. Either way, Sukuna has a plan.
>Sukuna knew so long as Gojo Satoro lived his thousand year plans would crumble
You might be confusing him for Kenjaku, Sukuna doesn't care for any thousand year plan beyond entertainment. Sukuna just wanted to "eat" interesting or strong people until he dies.
@@kilokilo7254wrong sukuna specifically took 10 shadows for mahoraga cut it out
@@skybattle1184 He straight up wanted the 10 shadows before he knew Mahoraga or Infinity existed. Reread
@@kilokilo7254Actually he knew that Mahoraga existed but he didnt know what he actually was until Shibuya, when Megumi was raising his cursed energy to summon him THAT is when Sukuna got interesting in seeing the 10 Shadows full capability. As he said himself, Megumi didn't understand just how much potential his own technique was.
@@kidkatanatv He never knew that Mahoraga existed, nor did he know what the 10 shadows was. Sukuna saw the potential in Megumi and his technique during their first fight, but had no knowledge of it prior to what he saw. It makes sense because the 10 Shadows didn't exist in the Heian Era.
Either way, Sukuna did not want Megumi for Mahoraga and Infinity, Sukuna wanted Megumi because his potential was enough to surpass him. Given that, he didn't take Megumi to prep for Gojo
I think it would be cool if you made one of these combat IQ videos for the baki series or the kengan Omega series. Since characters in both of those series mostly have to rely on their martial arts skill.
"Since he did not wanted to think about too hard" is a pretty strong statement, its more like couldnt
It’s not like he couldn’t it like that idea wouldn’t even pop up as none even knew how to do world cutting slash
Basically without the combination of Yuji, Megumi, 10 shadows, and Mahoraga…… Gojo would’ve won, killed, or draw! Bc he wouldn’t have had the time to figure out how to kill Gojo.
Yes, Sukuna still is a beast on his own but without full knowledge of Gojo’s capabilities.
Ppl don’t even realize that Sukuna was already kind of familiar with Gojo. Bc of being with Yuji having access to his mind. Forgetting that Gojo explained some of his capabilities in the fight with Jogo.
So think to Sukuna fight with Mahoraga now. It took time for him to figure out where as with Gojo who is leagues stronger off rip than Maho. That time would mean nite nite for Sukuna.
Sukuna’s real advantage was Yuji and prep time bc he had a vendetta (basically).
1 month preparation.
Just to get 0 Information about Sukuna Barrierless Domain Expansion.
That was awful from everyone.
Gojo had to put a lot of effort and adapt.
Gege trying to convince everyone they had all these back ups totally planned but no one bothered to tell gojo about sukuna's open domain or try testing out how higuruma's domain interacts with cursed tools.
@@AhmadKazan-wk7eihow do you think higuruma or everybody else knew about sukuna’s curse tool?
@@AhmadKazan-wk7eiand btw except yuji that doesn’t even have that much knowledge of high level jujutsu how do you expect anyone to talk about sukuna’s domain?
@@WayvyobiThey didn't know about his cursed tool...Higaruma's domain confiscating it instead of Shrine was not part of the plan at all. They realized that the amount of control they had over the crime Sukuna would be put on trial for and the subsequent punishment was limited so they used Sukuna's connection to Yuji to force confiscation + death penalty to be penalty applied if Sukuna was found guilty. They didn't know Kamutoke existed and it getting taken instead of Shrine wasn't planned.
@@Wayvyobilike open a history book and see a fucking ILLUSTRATION OF A MOST FAMOUS SORCERER OF ALL TIME holding them?
Or just ask Angel idk
I personally think we can't come to a conclusion on who is more intelligent than the other due to their circumstances. They both had different resources, so it can't even be measured in the forst place.
I think it is actually possible, they fight differently on a fundamental scale, Gojo is the master of improvisation while Sukuna is the master of strategy. As Sukuna prepared for the fight since chapter 1 basically.
Sukuna had a massive advantage against Gojo just because of that, Sukuna knew almost everything about Gojo, but Gojo didnt know almost anything about Sukuna and that was deliberate.
@@Camazotzer the only thing gojo needed to know was sukuna's open domain. Everything else was standard.
@@MonkeyDEneru The most important factor of the fight was Mahoragas adaptation, there were also questions with Fuga, though I guess Gojo didnt know about that at all, so techincally it didnt affect the fight.
@@Camazotzerbut then it still doesn’t conclude that sukuna is a better strategist if Gojo had no info to go on.
I think it's possible to measure their intelligence, I mean I'm not saying that Gojo is stupid but Sukuna has way more experience than Gojo but Gojo is still a GREAT character in the story of JJK
Why did nobody tell Gojo about the open domain?????
That was on Gege awful plothole unfortunately
@@jamaicaqueens22 i dont think the sorcerers even considered about it and only talked about it during the fight
Even worse , how did sukuna after taking an unlimited hollow to the face that killed mahoraga was still manage to pull out world cutting slash (that Maki can dodge but Gojo with 6 eyes after landing black flashes couldn't) ?
@@michael5319 That was explained later Sukuna as we now know is a binding vow merchant lol. He made a vow that if it hit Gojo he could fire with one hand on some sneak shit. The tradeoff, is NOW from that point on he had to aim the slash, and use chants, so opponents know when it's coming. He basically cheated on some villainy stuff to take Gojo out🤣
Nobody knew. The only person who'd ever seen Sukuna pop a domain was Yuji, and I doubt he'd have been able to tell what was going on.
As you said, Gojo was defeated by the Class student Mahoraga, and the guy copying Mahoraga.
Without Mahoraga, infinity would've remained unbreached. With his infinity unbreached, it would've been a complete roflstomp. For the story, Sukuna needed to win, and the way it came about seems fine to me.
LOL , Domain Amplification can literally pass through Infinity, Sukuna literally bypassed Infinity with Malevolent Shrine. What are you smoking? :)), Gojo literally admitted Sukuna wouldve still won even without Mahoraga and also admitted that Sukuna didn't even go all out :), Stop sucking gojo's dck
Nah. Domain expansion breaches infinity. Gojo would have died had sukuna not used mahoraga, there'd be no need to stall for mahoraga and sukuna would've never been hit . He'd close the domain on the third and Gojo drops dead like the ordinary person he is.
@@Owen-sx4jj "Gojo drops dead like the ordinary person he is". Why don't you even try to act like your not biased. If that's the case why wasn't Gojo already dead after the fourth domain clash. Gojo was surviving the domain clashes but Sukuna just had the better plan.
@@mattk_p gojo didn't. The only reason he "survived was because of two things. One, sukuna was stalling for mahoraga and went around doing unecessary things like attacking the outside of the domain or not using any other techniques just so mahoraga could adapt as much as possible so in order to do this he would extend the clashes. His priority wasn't simply to outlast gojo in a clash and he paid the price for it since he got hit with UV because of this. Without mahoraga gojo would not last in MV
Secondly, gojo was given domain shrink tech and the ridiculous "I can now healy burnout CE " never seen before in the series. My bias is warranted, gojo is ordinary and isn't on the same level as someone like sukuna...
@@Owen-sx4jj I’m not interested in arguing about who’s stronger. You can’t change my mind same way I can’t change yours. But saying Gojo is ordinary and saying ur bias is warranted is just a more complicated way of saying ur still biased.
sukuna is approaching battle with the mindset of “devouring the strongest” whereas gojo already believes he is the strongest. this dichotomy is what framed the entire battle between them. there’s a big difference between wanting to devour the strongest (sukuna) and believing you are the strongest (gojo). Sukuna is a unique villain because his philosophy isn’t framed after being the strongest, he doesn’t care. his goal is to do what he wants and devour whoever he wants. thus why his disposition is expressed as a “chef” in a kitchen. he see’s gojo as a savory delicacy in hopes that it will satisfy his endless appetite to devour everything.
remember: demons don’t have rest, and they can’t ever experience satisfaction. they themselves are tormented by a everlasting restlessness. that’s why they endlessly seek pleasures.
Gojo's brain damage was from destroying & rebuilding his prefrontal cortex, no? Presumably flubbing that final attempt. (Maybe he damaged the wrong part, healed the wrong part, or healed too slowly because his RCT was getting weaker?)
Exhaustion from spamming his Domain might have caused the fuck-up, though.
"This isn't Dragon ball" comment had me wild lmao
I mean in gt goku did get bullied for how long Kamehameha takes to fire,on multiple occasions
@@kamuix9932 GT isn’t canon (sadly)
@@Vorcupine same with z it’s just rarer
Great video! Something people don’t take into account is that Sukuna went into this fight knowing all of Gojo’s abilities and how his domain works so he had a plan. On top of that he has tons of battle experience from the Heian era whereas the only time Gojo’s ever had to struggle in a fight was against Toji. For a 20 something year old with barely any REAL battle experience to fight somebody with tons and tons of experience who also had 2 curse techniques (one of which is a direct counter to limitless), he did a great job fr
gojo also had the same amount of prep and knowledge, sukuna is famous and his abilties are known. Furthermore gojo knows all about 10s.
Sukuna won because he had Mahoraga, it's as simple as that.
@@SWEEN_PRODUCTIONZ he didn’t know he had an open barrier domain, he didn’t know he could domain amplify while inside his own domain, he didn’t know exactly how mahoraga’s adaptation worked, so where are you getting this info from?
@@DeadlyCreatorYTin the heian era, a measly time, where plumbers and Sukuna reigned divine
@@DeadlyCreatorYT doesnt matter cause he knew mahoraga's weakness
The fact that anyone can cut through infinity would baffle any scientist...
Gojo’s death was a plot armor in the execution. Sukuna is stronger yes. However the world cutting slash connecting makes no sense. Chapter 236 tainted gojo’s character A LOT.
Yes it does. How does it not? Sukuna make a binding vow to weaken it and use handsigns for it everytime he used it after.
@@opsoo2229 so that alone is enough to completely kill a foe who was almost as strong as sukuna himself? And you dare call that fair? Sukuna kills one of the strongest sorcerers of all time and in exchange he has to use two extra arms to use a technique that oh by the way he couldn’t even use before? Oh and it just so happens that his original form has 4 arms too? You still dare call that fair…
@@DKing-du6xrBro it’s been shown WAY prior to 237 that sukuna’s true form has 4 arms. Even in the beginning of the manga we see sukuna’s real form has 4 arms. Implying that it was coincidental that sukuna’s form has 4 arms is just dumb.
Sukuna’s binding vow was he has to use 2 arms to form the hand sign for the slash, he has the use a 3rd arm to point in the direction he wants the slash to go, and he has to use chants. What doesn’t make sense about the slash?
@@slayed9602 you’re clearly the dumb one here because if you read what I wrote, you’d understand i’m not criticizing the binding vow itself. The effects far outweigh the cost, which makes it a plot device simply to make the story progress. I have the right to not be ok with that. Here, I’ll make w binding vow. I vow to always have to wake up at 4 am instead of 6 for as long as I am at my current work place and to never say another curse word at said work place and in exchange my boss will go senile and I will get his position. And there is nothing he can do about it since he doesn’t even know such fatality is coming his way. That’s pretty much what sukuna did. He made a binding vow with himself, which targets a whole other sentient being (one of the strongest at that), and erased him from existence without him being able to do anything about it. BS doesn’t even begin to describe what that was.
@@DKing-du6xr Hope you realize binding vows dont scale with the user. Needing to point while also creating a handsign and chanting as a binding vow just to fire it instantly is an almost insane pay off because no one has more than 2 arms 💀. the fact sukuna used it to his advantage that he has 4 arms in his true form is proof of his IQ and isnt anything but him being better than gojo.
13:01 what u said is not at all what happened what happened was due to Gojo constantly repairing his burnt out ct after all the domain clashes it pushed his body/ brain to limit which caused him not to be able to due his domain anymore , which Gege drew a imagine showing how badly GoJo Brain was at that time which is why so much boood poured out .
Its the same similar reason to why sakuan could do da anymore but
It was not only cause he restored his ct through rct to the brain but was cause he got hit with uv that fried his brain
As long as the user lets his ct cool down they both can do domain infinite times but they forced it by recover there burnt out rct if that makes sense
Gojo vs Sukuna was just the Sukuna vs Yorozu fight with extra steps
the video was so cold i could feel it from here
The manga sites where the 2 fought have the funnies comment section ever. The 2 sides are screaming at each other using terms like 'Fraudkuna' 'Go/Jo' and 'Goatjo'
Everyone communicates in memes and nothing else
it's Gojover
@@ggMwaniki 💀💀💀💀
“You just triggered my trap card, BINDING VOW!”
It was super effective😂😂😂
I think a correction has to be made about Sukuna being able to win via his domain. I think Sukuna understood that his pure domain battle wasnt enough to beat Gojo, which is why he opted to use the Mahoraga strategy. The truth is Gojo's pride refused to take the safe approach and just teleport out of Sukuna's domain effect area as he constantly wastes his CE. Sukuna understood this so he used strat B, then misplaced and ended up at a disadvantage where he had to wait for Mahoraga's adapt to teach him to bypass infinity, which was a gamble and took a serious binding vow to pull off
Gojo can't teleport any time he wants, Kusakabe explained that. This is why Sukuna was in Gojo's face during the domain battles, even tho he could just let his domain do the work. Sukuna gives Gojo 10 seconds to breathe, and he loses.
@@Aki...544 He could do it after the first domain clash! Kusababe said he couldnt because of his burnt out curse energy after a domain is used which is why Gojo couldnt teleport out and why sukuna pressured him from getting away physically
Yuji was strong because he was born with one of Sukuna fingers, Sukuna swapping bodies doesnt nerf him physically because he transfers every finger to Megumi. Sukuna fighting with his CT and not trying to adapt doesnt give him the win in the earlier domain battles. Sukunas arsenal is not enough to put Gojo down and it was stated that he was never capable of using the fire arrow throughout the entire fight. That would include the first domain. I think you are giving Sukuna too much credit saying he didnt want to think too hard in finding a way to kill Gojo implying he could create some kind of new ability he never had before to bypass infinity and win the fight on his own. Saying Gojo is thinking that Sukuna is healing himself is speculation and has no proof at all. Its pretty obvious when someone is healing themselves because of the tell tell signs. Gojo hadnt seen a single base attack from Sukuna bypass infinity, Maharaga was dead and that was the only other way other than DA and DE to bypass infinity that Gojo knew about. Sukuna was also in no state to do anything that could harm Gojo in such a serious way. It is also the first time Sukuna uses the world slash. Combination of all these things leads up to Sukuna using a sneak attack by using a binding vow permanently nerfing himself to ensure Go/jo wouldnt be able to react and end the fight. We also never learn fully what Sukuna needed to do to use WCS before he nerfed himself. Seeing how he states it was practically impossible to learn and CT have prerequisite that need to be omitted it is more accurate to assume that sukuna would still need both hand sign and incantations before nerfing himself. Which would explain why he would rather nerf himself instead of using his Heian form with the unnerfed WCS because gojo would be able react to it then.
U earned a sub...very good analysis..!!! Time to look at ya catalog
@@gabe2829 thanks king
Gojo was fighting for his life, Sakuna was improving his moveset
"Mahoraga! Mahoraga! Help! Help me!"
@@GabrielV65 "Guys can you break me out of prison? The honored one is an idiot and cant use plot armor this time. Please help me guys I cant do it on my own"
@@neos.4587 both had many asspulls , sukuna had binding vows while gojo breaking rules of jujutsu.
@@neos.4587”Gege can you please let me tank Jacob’s ladder 3 times daddy please 🥺 “
Sukuna was getting clapped wtf are u talking about
Bro really cooked with this one! Excellent analysis
It's still crazy to me that the only reason their fight dragged on for so long was because of a 0.01 second difference
I think when Gojo thought he would win, is exactly when he lost. He simply thought he was so powerful that he would outskill and outstat sukuna, while sukuna was planning before and after the fight. Gojo did outstandingly well for how bad his mindset was though.
Man this video was greatly needed, haha this fight still has me for twist, this was a phenomenal breakdown and honestly im gonna have to watch it two or three more times to exactly understand every calculated move, their motivations and innovations these two performed on the fly.
You definitely have a new subscriber now and i hope you breakdown more of these jjk battles especially explaining sukuna amping up his domain before yuta in gojos body shows up 🎊🎊🎊🎊🎊 cheers
Gojo's battle IQ is capped by the IQ of the mangaka. He could have pulled himself out of the domain with blue, he could have teleported when he wasn't using RCE(or someone else could have done that), could have engaged him in ranged combat, could have opted for comboing with literally anyone that has compatible CT. The hidden wheel and overadaptation were just both complete hacks that shouldn't have been there. Having "you lose" as an ability is a very poor writing. And the eyes got nerfed, it was supposed to have an ability.
mfs saying gojo wasnt trying to kill sukuna when the first thing he does is throw a 200% hollow purple at sukuna which sukuna can barely even react to in time
0:31 he does have a motive. He just never found anyone to meet that motive until Gojo.
I think the reason why sukuna won despite having a lower combat IQ than gojo sukuna seemed to have gojo beat in certain other aspects of intelligence. As well as having arguably better resources than gojo had.
On the other hand, there's an argument that gojos ego brought him down... but without his ego, he wouldn't have gotten this far either..
@@sugurugeto34 gojo's ego did NOT bring him down 😭😭the end attack practically spawned on top of infinity and was instant, unlike killing sukuna while weakened which would take at least another 10-30 seconds
@@sugurugeto34nah if that was the case the story would have pointed it out that gojos ego got the better of him, but that wasn't the case in the world of jjk ego is what takes you to the top like you stated.
Nah, sukuna praying for asspuls
What makes you think he had lower IQ ? Everything planned out how he wanted, he's older by at least a couple centuries, and fought more and stronger era opponents
This is just a head cannon based on how well people think gojo did
This made me realise that Gege has explaining to do, Sukuna was able to use MS, 10S and domain amp at the same point during the domain clashes, he explained how he could use domain amp domain clashes but that should have stopped the adaptation process aswell, hpwever it was stated it adapted using the five UV opened
The thing is Sukuna had Megumi’s soul carry the adaptation process, which allowed him to proceed however he pleased. That and the fact that gojo didn’t know about his open barrier technique pretty guaranteed sukuna’s success.
@DKing-du6xr I understand this but the only issue is, Sukuna is in Megumis body and so for that to be possible 10S has to be active and in use. Unless you're saying it's not active. Unless you're saying he did what Higuruma did and didn't dispel 10S completely but had it active just a little bit enough to still use domain amp but that would explain then how he used his technique too and opened MS
@@abelanteson9196 sukuna only used domain amp on the 2nd domain clash , sukuna doesn't use it during 3rd, 4th and 5th clash as u can see gojo pulling along sukuna using blue during the 4th clash. Sukuna holds off gojo for 3min without domain amp.
@silverhand717 not possible as in order to touch Gojo and fight him, he needs domain amp within the domain clashes
@@abelanteson9196 which he only did in the 2nd clash .
1. STRATEGY:
Sukuna knew EVERYTHING about Gojo, and planned the fight for the better part of 6 months. Gojo only knew about Cleave and Dismantle. I won't draw a conclusion
2. DOMAIN EXPANSION CLASH
- Sukuna's mastery here is better than Gojo's
- Gojo is faster at casting
- Gojo DID use blue to "teleport" within Sukuna's domain, so no, he could teleport out if he wanted. He stayed in to discover more about Sukuna's technique
- Sukuna loses his ability to expand his domain because of too much damage from Gojo
- Gojo loses his ability to expand his domain
I think this is a draw
3. HAND-TO-HAND COMBAT
Gojo beat the crap out of Sukuna, even while going 1 vs 3 or with 1 arm. Even knocked him out
Gojo wins
4. BLACK FLASH
Yuji shrugged off Sukuna's Black Flash, and Maki somehow survived it twice, too. Gojo's Black Flash knocked Sukuna out clean
Another win for Gojo
OVERALL
Overall, Sukuna ends up winning the fight, but I think the author seriously downplayed the fact that the fight was a many vs 1, where Gojo was willingly risking his life to see Sukuna's limits. I don't think Sukuna logically stands any chance if Gojo knows about his Curse Technique
While Sukuna and Gojo are clearly much better than everyone else, I don't think enough people realise that Gojo is also significantly better than Sukuna at almost everything
Nope sukuna is a better jujustu scorcerer than gojo, he always find ways to improve his technique, for him being stronger was the only goal that's why he is called the fallen while gojo thinks about others and wanted to power up himself for saving other people that's a weakness, we was never meant to win
@@RsES-NR gojo wants to power up ??? don't make me laugh bro . gojo didn't even train hard to improve himself . and 1 month training was all about making other soccerer stronger . gojo is already lonely enough and if he become much stronger then there will be none to catch him . on the other hand sukuna is always trying to take revenge ( latest chap) . that's why he was planning to kill gojo using mahoraga from the start . a man trying to take revenge vs a man who just wants to end his loneliness .
I still don't get why couldn't gojo just use a binding vow for his hollow purple to kill sukuna , or why he didnt go for his head in chapter 229 .
@@florentdbz9873 plot .
Sukuna beat gojo with a technique that he only had for a month plus.
The ten shadows is not stronger than the six eyes + limitless sukuna is just that skilled
And everyone saying it's a 3v1 like sukuna had the advantage gojo literally has the ultimate defense skill. Sukuna can only hit him if he sacrifices all of his other skills
the fight was peak in general, no debate on that part
u are doing gods work thank you
sukuna was trying to grow as a sorcerer being REALLY risky as said by gojo himself after his death and during the fight during his monologue, while gojo was just tryna kill sukuna.
if sukuna genuinely just wanted to kill gojo, he wouldve used his true form giving him an advantage in a domain clash due to the extra set of hands and the extra mouth, he appeared bulkier and overrall physically stronger which would help him in hand to hand plus his cursed tool. if sukuna just wanted to go for the kill it wouldve been over the first time gojo lost a domain clash and im firmly a believer in that
The glaze is crazy. Miguel proved physical strength is useless against Gojo because he is stronger than Gojo physically. Gojo still hits harder cause his attacks are amped by blue. And you act like Sukuna wasn't trying to kill Gojo the entire time, he just couldn't. At the end he only succeeded due to a binding vow.
@@nanayawagyen-kokuro5069 that is under the impression sukuna is normal and would take gojos punches. He will have domain amplification on with his four arms. Then gojos advantage is negated. Sukuna with his extra hand can easily outlast gojo in a clash of domains.
sukuna knew how to win against him from ep 1 he felt the infinity there and set his goals on megumi from there as soon he got the megumis CT it was already over for gojo
bro finally som1 who knows how to read
i love you luka keep up the great videos and being yourself every video gets better and better.
I think Gojo’s freestyle improvisation during battle with martial art techniques like Wing Chun is interesting to compare with Sukuna’s premeditated long-term planning with his beast-like animal style fighting shows that whoever has the edge in just a split second can win. The methodology of both Sukuna and Gojo complement each other, with one would be more forceful and modernized (Gojo), the other methodical and primal (Sukuna). Great analysis!
Back to back videos from Avent! Let’s see what other anime are explored on the channel. 👍
I’m not here for debate but I want to make one thing clear. Gojo saying sukuna was holding back and was stronger than him is NOT against his character. Gojo has admitted that people Yuji, Megumi, and Yuta (maybe Hakari but I’m not totally sure) could all surpass him one day. Someone that can’t admit when someone’s stronger than them would not be able to do admit that someone has to potential to be either, especially with the lack of hesitation and ease that Gojo does. It’s been over half a year. Sukuna is the strongest, stop coping.
cry
Gojo is the strongest
PERIOD
@@Dio_Brando414 Gojo rejects your type, he wants humble fans 💀
My take is Gojo didn't knew about World Cutting Slash, so when Sukuna did that, Gojo just thought he had more than I didn't knew.
That is why he said, he was holding back.
Also Gojo got humbled.
A lot of mfs crying cause Big G lost, it was always going to happen. Yuji was the MC, not Gojo.
Idc what anyone says gojo had the coldest line opening the fight "make no mistake you're the challenger here" 😂😂😂
my opinions always unironically match with you 😭.W explanation and detailing
two videos in 2 days?
I do think that Sukuna "cheating" with the Ten Shadows is both perfectly fitting for his character and for the fact that he couldn't afford to use his Heian awakening until a last resort, as he's getting jumped right after winning.
If he didn't have Ten Shadows I'm guessing he would've planned to use his Heian Form way earlier as a way to gain the upper hand in domain clashes and in general battle; having two free hands and an extra mouth when fighting is probably insanely useful when it comes to domain clashes, being able to maintain the Domain hand sign and possibly even use incantations to maintain it further aswell, all the while being able to fight.
The downside of being Heian from the getgo is that if it doesn't work out and the battle extends and Sukuna takes damage, even if he ends up winning, he doesn't have a way to refresh himself for the sheer jumping that's about to take place.
the point is that it's not cheating, I don't think there was a rule that said "you can only use your innate technique in this fight" and Gojo knew that Sukuna could use the 10 shadows but he was still sure of winning...
@@Nandomo00literally how do people not get this , sukuna had no choice but to use megumi as a new vessle he was obviously gonna use his CT regardless and if people make this scenario of sukuna without 10s do they realize gojo without prison realm experience has to happen to for the fight to still be equal
Is it cheating when Sukuna was the only person to ever master the 10 shadows and tame Mahoraga?
@@chromtastic2092 jjk fans do get it, its the gojo fans (abt 50% of jjk fans) that dont get it ngl
facts
Avent tryna become top 3 anitubers(its working)
@@malpricetv889 W
@@AventSir well both gojo and sukuna have same level biq
But the difference is sukuna plays long and risky games but gojo plays safe and short games. But what makes sukuna slightly better is that
That he not only uses his own technique effectively but also can use others technique more effectively then thier original users + he can learn new techniques+ improving it + master it at really fast rate
He literally learned , improved and master the technique by just watching in like few seconds
Cause maharoga was take out right after he cutt gojo hand
And both of them were in different situations cause sukuna not only had to deal with gojo but also to deal with rest of the cast but for gojo he only had to deal with sukuna Cause
Others like yuta, yuji , maki etc can deal with kenjaku and they did
And cause of that he had to relied on 10 shadows cause if he didn't relied on 10 shadows then he would have to use all of his techniques + true form
19:44 - Max elephant pissing blood... yeah, I can't unhear it
When you realise Sukuna is the older generation Gojo wants the youth to overcome.
Watching this made me realise 2 things
1 Sukuna would won even without Mahoraga since Gojo got brain damaged from overuse but Sukuna got it form Unlimited Void
2 I when i read the chapter i was a little angerd but it was not that Gojo had losed not even that it was offscreen no its because this amazing fight ended
Your first point does not make sense
@@iosboicool4178 it does when you realise Hein sukuna or no fuck that meguna would just uv from inside
If Sukuna didn't have Mahoraga, Gojo could just spam Purple and win. Mahoraga literally made it possible for Sukuna to bypass limitless. Y'all don't think.
@@jase276 😭 wtf
@@GOJOANDSUKUNAFAN it doesn’t make sense because he saying sukuna would have won without mahoraga because they both gojo and sukuna got brain damage which makes no sense
Sorry when someone outsmart you and you die. You're battle IQ is inferior. You're glazing.
It's not about outsmarting, if you have a fire ability and I have water I just directly counter you, mahoraga is the same way to a lot of gojo's attacks bc he didn't know most of what sukuna could do and sukuna knew everything gojo could do by being in itadoris body
Not only did sukuna need full info advantage to win but also a technique that isn't his as he couldn't have won without 10 shadows, and it was still a close fight even tho sukuna had every advantage
You clearly never seen a chess game between two greats. Sure, technically the other one will have an "inferior battle IQ" but that is also a misrepresentation. If the IQ difference is by 1 point then is the gap really that far to warrant calling the other guy's IQ inferior? Also, luck plays a huge huge role in fights. This was no Sukuna vs. Yoruzo where the gap is so big. Gojo stomps Sukuna in hand to hand but Sukuna stomps in amount of curse technique and energy. They both have talent and anybody who says Sukuna is about hard work and Gojo is not has a very inferior IQ next to a snail. They both probably worked as hard (we don't know yet about Sukuna's background as a human or non-human before he became king of curses). Clearly, Sukuna was not born a king of curses (if he did then all the allegations of him as a fraud was true because he was just the better version of Gojo who still has to train). A fight between greats just needs a small window of opportunity to end the fight. Real fights between two great samurai warrior ends in just 1 swing/slash. One just has to be faster by a microsecond. So yeah, it aint that simple. If you really think it was just that, well, too bad this kind of complex writing is not for you. Watch dragon ball fights instead.
@@angrymeowngi keep watching chess.
You really need to watch your videos before releasing them. You repeated lines like 5 times
At least, I commend your effort in creating this video, but there are several errors and ommissions that have ultimately brought you to the wrong conclusion.
At 9:45, Sukuna's domain was not damaged directly. When Gojo used the small domain strategy, it was sturdy enough to buy Gojo enough time (3 minutes) to inflict damage on directly Sukuna which caused Sukuna to be unable to maintain his domain. As Gojo was directly damaging Sukuna from hand to hand combat, Sukuna was damaging Gojo's barrier with his open barrier, and both barriers happened to fall at the same time. They weren't on a time limit, it was more of a race to bring down each others barrier.
At 10:08, yes Sukuna was playing it risky but there was a serious reason why. Sukuna could have taken the faster route but he wanted to get rid of unlimited void. However, at the time, he didn't even know Gojo was going to break his own brain by repeatedly healing CT burnout. Prior to this fight Sukuna did not even know you could refresh cursed technique burnout, so you can imagine his plan didnt account for it and he was more focused on weakening/exhausting Gojo by repeatedly breaking his domain and exhausting his CE.
At 11:00, a domain expansion fight is like a tug of war. Several things like refinement, preciseness and your physical condition will affect whether you win that tug of war. The damage Gojo inflicted on Sukuna meant that Sukuna had to heal before he could expand again which resulted in delay. That slight delay gave the tug of war advantage to Gojo and resulted in Gojo damaging Sukuna faster than Sukuna could break Gojo's barrier. Once Sukuna's domain collapsed, there was nothing cancelling unlimited void, so Sukuna took a direct hit.
At 12:17, using reverse cursed technique does not prevent you from using your cursed technique. Yuji showed this and likewise purple would be impossible if you couldn't use both at the same time. Like I said earlier, Sukuna lost precision because he needed to heal himself first before he could expand his domain. Simple as that.
It seems that immediately Sukuna copied how to refresh cursed technique burnout, he knew that Gojo would hit a limit and so adjusted his plan. (I dare say Sukuna lied about Mahoraga's adaptation, it takes less amount of spins to adapt to limitless than he admitted but this is still something I am piecing together).
At 12:26, Gojo hit a limit specifically because of refreshing CT burnout too many times, not because he was expanding his domain too much. With their level of efficiency, Sukuna and especially Gojo can expand their domains almost indefinitely.
At 14:28, normally using domain amplification or any other technique would dispel the 10 shadows but Sukuna and later Higuruma are skillful enough to only cause their technique to be paused instead of dispelled. You can't use 2 cursed techniques at the same time unless you are Yuta. This also makes me thing that Kenjaku's body hopping technique is not a continuous use technique otherwise it should have been impossible to use anti gravity technique while body hopping is active.
At 17:16, adaptation is not affected or slowed by Sukuna using other Shikigami.
At 22:08, it has been shown that Sukuna can instantly activate his technique without showing that initial spark. Furthermore, he used a binding vow to forego all requirements for the world cutting slash. If you also consider that after that 2nd purple, Sukuna had only domain amplification left to fight with, Gojo and everyone else were not expecting any surprises but isn't deception the true nature of a sorcerer? Sukuna was better at deception.
Something you also failed to consider is that the win conditions for Gojo and Sukuna are different. Gojo only needed to beat Sukuna, while Sukuna has to throw down with the whole cast after Gojo, he needed to have more assurances plus he wanted a permanent solution to limitless. Sukuna was the better fighter overall.
This was a crazy fight 🔥😂
Mind you Sukuna is not fighting at full strength too, since he doesn't have the complete finger
He ate his body making up for the finger
@@YourAverageHumanBeing idk why people just gloss over that lol. drives me insane
Sukuna, the King of Binding Vows lmao.
I mean can we blame sukuna or gojo? Gojo hardly had any info on sukunas CT or abilities even the open domain was still a rumor jujutsu high didnt fully believe in. While sukuna had kenjaku and itadoris POV giving sukuna many counterpoints he can try and when he saw mahoraga he just saw the killing blow. Gojo was out there improvising not because he couldnt outsmart sukuna but more so cause he simply didnt have enough information to actually try anything.
I just subscribed
And I like you for not being bias you didn't support anyone of them just straight up answers
My only question is why in the whole series is sukuna the only one to abuse binding vows when everyone knows they exist? It kind of feels like an easy cop out because only during the shinjuku fight do we see “oh I didn’t die because I used a binding vow to do this or that and I used another binding vow to do this and that” but none of the JJK students or Gojo get to use binding vows when they’re in trouble like sukuna?
Matter of experience.
Binding vows can be used by everyone but Sukuna knows how to use them properly in battle due he living through Heian Era which was like continuous battle Era, that is why Sukuna can change its function to make it suitable for opponent.
If Gojo, Yuta were from Heian Era, they could have been same like Sukuna in binding vows.
Why not charge up, do the dance and song, get to 200%, and just have Ui Ui teleport him behind Sukuna?
Ikr good ass plan 😊
Plot
Yeah cus ui ui was just hanging around them watching the fight huh
For me i believe that it is in fact not close as Sukuna is not stupid, he knows for sure that after he defeated Gojo he would still have to deal with the other sorcerers and the chapters have showed us rightfully so, Uraume is kept at bay by Hakari, and Sukuna is attempting to scower through the many “backup plans” that they have come up with, and now he is facing characters who could very well rival so much as 10 fingers of his strength. If he did not have 10 shadows, Gojo dies quicker, and Sukuna gets taken down quicker as well
thinking about that have been what happened
It makes no sense for Sukuna to be worried about ANYBODY after defeating Gojo. Literally everyone else, Yuuta included, are fodder to him. The only reason the fight is still going on is because of Gojo's damage but even that is wearing off. Yuji hit him with like 10 black flashes in a row and it's doing literally nothing, Sukuna swatted him away like a fly once he got bored. The only person who could MAYBE do something is Hikari because he's immortal but he's playing footsies with Sukuna's caddie.
Sukuna won fair and square, but he had a crutch of 10 shadows. Gojo wins against if it was the Hein Era Sukuna since he doesnt have 10 showed simple. End of the debate. Both are GOATS and the strongest.
My only complain is how gege showed gojo accepting his defeat in the after life. Saying "he didnt go all out", that was a major bummer for me. We all knew gojo would die so the rest of the cast will have something to do, but the way he 'gave up' his strongest title was clearly Gege's last dig at Gojo since he has hated him from the start.
The whole afterlife thing with Gojo makes me question if anything other than Mahoraga’s adaption could’ve beaten Gojo. Cause with Heian Era Sukuna and his Flame Arrow I kinda feel like there are ways around them. We saw that Flame Arrow it takes a long time to charge up giving time for Ui Ui to teleport some people out of its range so I don’t why Gojo couldn’t either if he had time to. I personally would’ve loved to see a clash between Sukuna’s Flame Arrow vs. Gojo’s Hollow Purple. And with Sukuna’s Heian Era form while it does give Sukuna better H2H, being the perfect body for a sorcerer it gives up Sukuna’s main crux in his plan against Gojo that being the Ten Shadows. So like while Gojo might be disappointed Sukuna didn’t unleash everything he had it certainly wouldn’t have been easy on any front for Sukuna. The only sure fire way to beat Gojo was his Domain Expansion and Gojo after being in the prison realm found his way out of that mess, don’t see why he couldn’t do it again.
He said he felt satisfied having gone all out and had a great battle, and knew Sukuna was just that strong. What was he gonna say "aw man he cheated! :c" on some loser shit. Was graceful in defeat. And him not accepting it makes him look like a bitch/like he'll come back and win the next round (which is super cringe)
@@THED3ADLY7 It's not that difficult, dude. Gojo's limitless can literally make NOTHING touch him. Sukuna's fire arrow would've done NOTHING, which is why he didn't bother use it in the fight. So, no, nothing other than Mahoraga would've beaten Gojo. Which is why Sukuna showed such interest in Megumi the entire manga. That being said, it would've been interesting to see Sukuna actually pull out hidden Heian tech against Gojo.
@@jase276fire arrow during DE
Bruh. Gojo loses even faster without mahoraga. It wouldn't go past the domains, at the third one gojo is down.
Enjoying the video thus far. I believe Gojo vs Sukuna was one of the best fights in shonen canon, but it was one ultimately while enjoyed fans largely misunderstood. First, with the framing. It’s a fight where objectively the strongest in history fights the strongest in current time, but Akutami framed it in a way Gojo could seem superior. This is done visually with him coming in yoked, and Sukuna seeming very slim. However, Gojo’s dress paying homage to Toji evokes the similar symbolism of an underdog facing the heights of jujutsu. Jujutsu is an art of subtraction, and thus - the worlds greatest sorceror is unsurprisingly a man who is constantly subtracting elements to his arsenal, which he uses for various aims-- Strategy, personal pleasure and so forth. An interesting addition this fight has was, it’s dialogue is almost as important as what happens on screen, and you can’t really understand the fight without listening to the analyses by guys like Kusakabe. Without it, you can’t realize how Akutami sets up the finale and the eventual twists. There’s also a minor overlooked aspect: Gojo can’t really see dismantle, he can see the other aspects-- which is highlighted by Sukuna mentioning Maki. This is controversial, but it has been restated that the true benefit of 6Eyes is largely its efficiency and ability to maximize Limitless. It’s visual acuity is more like an ambient infrared, and it’s use is actually taxing.
such a cool fucking fight its actually insane. They better do this some serious justice when animated
Sukuna clearly had the better strategy. that 200% hollow purple was not a good way to start the battle. We know Gojo can pop a domain in 0.2 seconds. He could have teleported in with blue and popped unlimited void and ended the fight right there.
You think it would be that easy to kill sukuna?
@christiandior9835 yeah,he was too slow to pop up a domain or make any binding vows to use one arm.He was cooked there and gojo simply didn't expand his domain.
One of the worst fan-fics alternatives I have ever read. Unironically hilarious
@@Mugen_AA SMH I didn't say it'd be entertaining from a fan perspective. I'm talking about a hypothetical if they were to fight without entertaining the audience.
@@Sukuna1983 That’s not what’s funny. What’s funny is that you believe this would work and the fight would be done with it as simple as that. 0.2 domain might be fast from our perspective but Sukuna can react to such speeds and pop his domain as well. Like how someone comes up with such bs is beyond me. Even Mahito could replicate the 0.2 domain.
fradkuna without mahoragone is a dead man simple and short
Nah. Sukuna could've killed him easy if Maho wasn't there in the Domains, he had to take a Risker approach which maho was.. gojo was therefore not hit sukuna by 0.01. Seconds and dies in the next clash, the end
@@Owen-sx4jj nah bro the reason that was a problem in the first place is because maho was there no maho no domain clash
Gojo was playing chess sukuna was playing checkers
You mean the opposite, since Gojo could not anticipate World Cutting Slash and hence lost.
It's the other way around, r*tard
I've always said the same thing but we really can't do anything when majority of the fanbase is under the age of 12
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If we're being honest here, this argument doesn't mean the fight wasn't close, if anything it means that it was extremely close. Sukuna got backed up into a corner multiple times more than Gojo, and was forced to retreat and use Mahoraga as a bodyguard while he healed with RCT. Say what you will about it, call it cope, but I still think world slash was still a major asspull. I get it, Gojo isn't the protagonist of this story, and he was never meant to kill Sukuna, but Jesus an offscreen like that was criminal and undeserved.
Goes down as one of the worst endings to a fight in manga history possibly. Or ever. I can't remember a major fight having such a bad ending.
People really have no idea about Sukuna's slash and six eyes. I'll say it again for the 1000th time that Gojo can't see sukunas slashes.
Chapter 224 , Page 12 and 13th:- sukuna sends a normal dismantle towards Gojo but his infinity protects him and he sees back to figure what happened.
I also know the explanation. His six eyes helps him figure out about the technique when it is used once but he needs to see the technique getting used with his normal eyes and Slashes are invisible, so gojo just can't see the slash , the info he gets about slash is likely nothing or invisible.
Maki can because of her HR
Miguel can because of his technique to feel the curses (CE)
Kusakabe knew because sukuna announced that he was about to do the world slash ("You know what's next")
He can sense them it’s explained before any technique a jujustu sorcerer feels thing sense before it activates
This take is innately wrong.
1.the dismantle never hit gojos infinity, gojos infinity divides the space between himself and whatever is infront of him until it comes to a complete stop, if the dismantle hit gojos infinity its literally physically impossible for it to have hit the building behind him, it would have come to a complete stop.
Sukuna intentionally aimed at the building behind Gojo as gojo states in the second To last page of chapter 228, "inside the domain, he can't use architectural structure to attack me like before", confirming that sukuna had intentionally aimed at the building to take advantage of its architectural structure.
2.We quite clearly see that Gojo actively knew something was coming towards him as his facial expression changes right after sukuna fired the dismantle and reverts to normal after it hits the building behind him.
As I will elaborate on further Gojo looked back because though he can see a dismantle coming towards him(the six eyes can see the flow of cursed energy) he can't accurately figure out the scale or effect of the attack will be.
3.It makes literally no sense and would be a living plothole for the six eyes not to be able to see dismantle to a degree, this has nothing to do with the six eyes being able to tell someone's curse technique, its the fact the six eyes can canonically see the FLOW OF CURSED ENERGY in 1600px quality to the point it can even see the invisible man toji fushigiro who has NO cursed energy purely on the fact he's an anomoly in the flow.
So the eyes that can see the flow of cursed energy can't tell that cursed energy with a crazy high output is flowing towards him at unbelivibly high speeds compared to the cursed energy literally everywhere else in the environment.
Theirs literally no way to reason that out when even kusakabe said he could see the cursed energy occurance caused by sukunas dismantle confirming they do emit cursed energy.
Gojo might not be able to see dismantle in all its glory but theirs no reason for him to not be able to see highly concentrated cursed energy flowing to him at an unbelivibly high speed, until their is more undeniably HARD evidence(more than gojo looking back at a building after dismantle is launched) their should be no reason to accept a NONE-CANON theory that would be a living plot hole and severely contradict CANON information we have on the six eyes.
@@a123_epic wrong again , That sense (Spark) only happens when the technique is complex like red , purple but slashes are normal
@@coolguy2058 well thats a good counter and i somewhat believe it but still doesn't change the fact that Gojo can't see the slashes at least that's what I think from his reaction
@@coolguy2058 I like to think that Gojo with six eyes is definitely capable of seeing dismantle. But just because he can see it doesn't mean he can block it in time. Dismantle is hard to block even for Mahoraga. It's just THAT fast to the point that Kashimo who by statement already surpassed human limit was still caught.
Sukuna was never trying to win early it was all about bypassing limitless himself not killing gojo
He couldn't have killed gojo earlier
@@milesrieger7449 yes he could’ve man that’s why he was disappointed when gojo was gonna die cause he didn’t live up to the title of strongest that he’s been hearing so much
@@jon_ovo3653 when would he have killed gojo earlier? Tell me the moment
@@milesrieger7449 no point you’ll just say nah uh
@@milesrieger7449 10:04 and 13:28 but cope ig
I’m glad that somebody finally understands what Battle IQ really is🔥🔥🔥