@ not enough creative players in midfield. After last season we already knew we needed betrer quality on the wings and we always needed a saka back up. Jesus had a resurgance but long term isn’t good enough and havertz should be a back up striker. We loan a goalie who is bad and is also cup tied in carabao. Sterling sucks.
So buy a 4th Rightback??? wdym?? Who would want to sit behind Odegaard in midfield. We got Odegaard, Havertz and Nwaneri as offensive midfielders. Who do Liverpool have bar Debruyne and Foden? no one has more than 2 or 3 players per position... It's also incredibly hard to find someone who is creative enough AND can do th e defensive duties Odegaard does. We are incredibly unlucky with injuries and if it wasn't for that horrendous decision by the ref, we would have won against a very strong Brighton. No team on the planet could have won that game under those circumstances 10/10 times.
The thing is about ref decsions,its affecting us so much because we are not putting games to bed,like the Brighton penalty wouldnt have been a big deal if we scored 2-3 The other part is Liverpool last 6 pl games was 3 wins and 3 draws,i dont think we could have asked for anything better as a team chasing,yet the gap remains the same,probably thats why we wont win the league,because Pool will drop points but we cant capitalise on it
We literally didn't have Havertz and barely had Odegaard not to mention Saka. How the hell are you expecting us to put that game to bed? Even all the players that played might not have been healthy.
Asking a frontline that naturally needs a bit of fresh air in this window to score 3 goals against a strong Brighton while half of our offensive players are injured/ill is quite a bit much. As any manager would have done: Put out all your 3 offensive players left and the team naturally is more defensive. With a more defensive team you don't score 4 goals. You score 1 and keep a clean sheet which got denied by anthony taylor. Sometimes luck just isn't on our side and that sometimes is 6 days a week currently...
The standard of refereeing is awful but the reason it feels like it’s having such an impact on our season is because we aren’t scoring enough. If you only score 1 or 0 then you are always at risk of a bad decisions costing you more points
Arsenal had the best defence last season, city won the league. Arsenal have the best this season so far, Liverpool winning the league. Goals win games, not clean sheets. Our invincible season didn’t happen without Thierry henry, but we could have swapped a defender or two and still won. Robin van persie won the league for Man Utd when he left us, not Jonny Evan’s. It goes on and on.
I felt for Arteta after the game. The starting XI is a complete mess because of injuries, our depth was injured or ill (and got injured during the game!) so we have very little ways to change the game, and too many people were out of their natural position. It was too much in the end for me to expect a good performance, especially against a decent side. We’re at desperation stage regarding a new attacker, we had nothing in the tank second half.
Agreed. As much as I critizise him for some games (for example vs Fulham) (and yes every manager makes mistakes once a season), this one is not on Arteta. There are mature players that could step up like Trossard and Jesus and other than that when the referee does you dirty, you can just make the best out of your situation with all the injuries we had. The only things in our hand would be replacing trossard or Jesus for people who do the same but are 20% more effective at it.
With all this we have the exact same points vs last season up until game week 20. What we can critique is the lack of depth in attack from the summer is showing up right now. It's funny when we had bodies, we didn't need them. Just the way it's going for us. Funnily Liverpool are two/three points better off, granted they played a game less. We just have to keep pace and if that's one nil wins so be it until we have some attackers back.
Name another club who are targeted every season by a new PGMOL directive. Whether it’s Arteta on the sidelines, Ben White at corners, delaying the restart, etc … every season they introduce something which is specifically aimed at Arsenal without explicitly saying it. Yes, they are incompetent. You only have to watch Fulham v Ipswich to see just how bad the levels are in general. They also have gone out of their wait to impose rules on us that are solely designed to affect us and then get forgotten about in 99% of other instances. Both of these things are true.
People like Alex are to blame for refs continuing to cheat. I still remember Alex defending the journalist lying about Partey/Rodri incident. We can’t defend lying/bias and expect them to stop
@@BigCala Well, reality is that there is 1 team that wins in every competition, so yeah, 99% of clubs don't win it. You are not living in reality. You are complaining about things you do not understand and therefore you are angry.
I am not angry, I am just watching this club that we all love not sure true ambition to push to win major honours. Do not be surprising the likes of Saliba and Saka leave the club in the next few years, if we do not win major honours.
@BigCala They will if we don't and it happened to many great teams and clubs before and will happen again. Injuries, refs and bugs are destroying out season and we are still in every competition and 2nd in EPL. Horrendous is supporting Southampton this season, that is horrendous.
Northern bias?! When is there going to be an investigation into the PGMOL? Accountability! As with life, football mirrors our reality. When we play the game we see players personality. We see the struggles of life played out in the arena. As with life, the media control the narrative. It is up to independent media outlets like yourself to address this and challenge the legacy media’s narrative. #KeepTheFaith #Ou2B #EiE ❤️🤍
I know it’s easy to call him out given his recent form, but is Ødegaard a bit of the issue with our play style? When you guys covered some of the strengths of Liverpool and ways we can adapt how we attack and how we defend, it all goes back to Ø imo. He doesn’t make the forward runs like McCallister and Szob, he’s poor in transition, and also is too much of a liability on defense for us to leave Saka further forward similarly to how you described Liverpool do with Salah. Dont think we can ever really adopt those things with him in the team, unless it’s exclusively down the LHS.
one attacking singing won't change the way arteta has us setup. this ball to feet stuff is killing us. also the club won't do any transfers in Jan sufficient to win the league. the owners genuinely dont care, which is why we are in this position in the first place
We are having to play these players because the squad building has been poor from midfield up. And it’s so annoying every time we win the ball back we slow it down and start passing it sideways and backwards
There is a historical case against us with the PGMOL over the decades. They are ACTIVELY surpresing our progress. It's a massive problem to this club's legacy and potential. I hope a consensus in the fanbase grows in this existential matter. Teams can tackle us, aggressively but we can't tackle them.
Historical case or not. This started happening way more frequently after the Newcastle away game in the fall of 2023. Arteta said too much and the PGMOL don't tolerate anyone questioning them. They hate him and they hate us. That beef is still ongoing to the point where they are actively targeting our games and any excuse for them to help the opposition is taken immediately. Be it a second yellow, a straight red or penalties. Most of them being situations no other team in the league get penalized for. It's so blatant, but as usual we are being gaslit by rival fans, the media and the PGMOL. Yes, it was not a great performance against Brighton, but their violent conduct was almost ignored. Veltman should honestly have been sent off, but didn't get a yellow until the 80th minute or so. Gabriel or Calafiori doing the same thing would have seen them sent off in the first half. It feels like the Arsenal players have to execute a perfect game every time while playing on egg shells. The corruption is so frustrating.
stat padding our Goals Scored and xG in away matches against Burnley & Sheffield Utd etc last season can’t hide that our attack has been unconvincing for quite a while. A window of Merino-Calafiori-Sterling was never going to fix this. We’ve seen games like this with our strongest XI as well. Forget about “luck”.
So only 2 players have been available for every game, as you said Nwaneri now injured, Neto cup tied, and Saliba and Trossard had bans. Only J20 and Kiwior
Only thing we can do is try to keep it at 3 points between us before going to Anfield. Then we have to win that match - that is a 6 pointer. Right now we just have to keep that gap at 9 - until end of January at least and hope Liverpool get a couple of losses at some point before we play them. I think we have to go unbeaten the rest of the year in the league - draws away are okay at certain grounds but every home match has to be won. If we don't accept this fight there is no point in playing - our players won't give in to that and Mikel certainly won't. I really hope our fans will honestly make the Emirates an absolute cauldron every single match from now on our. Lets give it our best shot lads - need Sterling, Ben white, Tomi etc to come back and give us depth whilst Saka is out and I keep saying this - but Martin Odegaard has to be the best player in the league by a distance starting this week as long as he is not feeling sick.
does Rohan have his own channel? over the couple years or so watching TCP and TDK I've gone from thinking he's annoying when he features to being the most insightful and concise source of arsenal analysis I can find on the internet.
In the 343 diamond formation Jesus is our ONLY option at CF. This tactic does not work with Havertz up front and anyone any other player at the tip of the diamond. We DESPERATLY need another goal machine in the number 9 position now! Im looking at you, Isak!
The penalty is a weird one. Saliba goes for the ball, misses it and takes out the player - it should be a pen. However historically these are almost never called as fouls just like the Gordon one
This idea that there are guys that are available for 20 mil more in January is just silly. Like who are these players? Most don't want to leave their team mid way through if their team is in a fight. Pay 20 mil for that doesn't help.
I don’t think many people are saying there’s a conspiracy I think it’s more to do with referee bias for example the bias is that we use “dark arts” so when we for example kick the ball away like everyone else does we get punished more for it
I think your discussion on Arteta using metrics to analyse performance is a good one because it highlights a few things. Firstly, the games where we drop points are often the games where it’s our manager lacking creativity. In his head ‘we deserved to win based on the metrics’ is disingenuous when we use our eye test to see that we create nothing in the attacking third. It also plays into the methodology of ‘ we don’t play the opponent, we focus on ourselves’. Arteta has players following rigid systems that don’t adapt and evolve in real time because he has taken the creative elements out of our play. Wenger had the same philosophy of looking inwards but he also allowed players to show their strength which is why we had seasons of beautiful football. Wenger ball. Nobody is going to be describing arsenal as ‘arteta ball’ because our football doesn’t even have a distinctive trait outside of set piece proficiency. Final point, and sorry for the rant: if we can’t improve on martinelli in the attacking third, or Jesus in the attacking third, or having only an injured sterling on the bench (whom never played when he was fit) or an upgrade on nwaneri who should be starting for us in 2 years time when he’s had a chance to physically develop (loans didn’t hurt saliba) - then we have to question our competence in the transfer market and also Artetas competence as a manager at gauging attacking talent. We can’t have a lineup of 11 yes men who are hamstrung by Arteta’s fixation on stats.
Can you write thesame expose showing all the positive stats that his obsession over stats have had over the last 3yrs, or do the wins not count until we win the league or champions league?
Whilst I fully agree with you that Arteta has worked wonders with Arsenal in terms of what he inherited to where we are now: we will soon fall into the same trap that Arsene wenger had of suggesting CL football and being ‘competitive’ (top 4 finish) is all that’s required. Not signing attacking players just cements that in my view. Speculate to accumulate.
If Arteta is unwilling to change his method for the betterment of the team to get results that will win us the league is just clear evidence to show he’s not ready yet to be a title winning manager.
Neto is not a bad keeper, strange take, as a second keeper he is more than fine. He might not be as good as Raya with feet, not many are, but he is a solid on the line keeper.
I don't necessarily think it's a corruption issue in the sense they target Arsenal to drop points (though it could be we know the corruption that surrounds City) but I think it's more a case of certain referees and public consensus not liking Arsenal and acting out on their subtle biases. Like the two red cards for delaying the restart. Those are called by vindictive refs. Arteta or something has annoyed them and they've gone watch this. I'm not from England but seems the banter and tribalism will never allow fans from other teams to discuss these types of things candidly. It will always digress into trolling.
Rohan, Mikel DOES need to be braver. We do need to incorporate that into our game, we have some of the best defenders and 6 in world football, Mikel needs to trust that they can do their jobs should we be broken on. Attacking with the enthasis on 'not conceding' will not win us titles
RE the first points. I can guarantee you speak to fans from every other club and they can tell you the same thing- they think they are really unlucky with injuries and ref decisions. We are just in our arsenal bubble and see mainly arsenal things. We are not different to other clubs imo. Arteta and the team need to find a way to overcome these variances every season. Because they WILL happen
Best league in the world, worst referees in the world. Almost Every team has suffered from them That has to change Someone has raised the question "if they were so good why they almost never in the world cup?"
Ask yourself arsenal fans - if the pen on Saturday was the other way around- we would 100% be calling for the pen. Saying "yeah it's really unlucky but he's headbutted him in the box". We got outplayed Saturday for 60% of the game. That's the story.
I understand your reticence to call a conspiracy but I put it to you that there are relative bias in the league. There are decisions made every weekend which bias north v south, big club v small club and yes, Arsenal v big anyone. The potential of Arsenal in the capital city is interpreted as threatening to the elite Northern clubs. Our pull around the world is very attractive. Any success would be a string board like no other. You'll get there in the end lads. Love y'all's analysis
Depends on what you Call "Corruption", refs clearly treat Arsenal a bit different, if people refuse to see it, it is on them. Wolves also got incredibly bad decisions, almost to a level you would want to investigate what was going on there... I think calling PGMOL incompetent for YEARS is like people calling the politicians idiots.. its a naive take, I think Arteta made refs a bit upset with his disgrace remarks and the whole case about Newcastle...
On refs, my theory is , maybe it's not corruption but there's definitely a hierarchy. Manchester Clubs> Liverpool> The rest> Arsenal. We get fogged in big games and in games against smaller sides.
I’m amazed at the various psychologists in the comments, re “ mentally slow players”, transfer experts, coaching experts, etc. No evidence of humility, when it’s all based on opinions without demonstrable expertise.
I think its about time the FA go and cherry pick the best refs from around the world and move them to England to ref the premier league, its done with players and managers why can't it be done with refs, its a total shambles the way the refs are acting in every game and its not getting any better, when VAR came in people was saying it needs a season or two to iron out small issues, well them issues are still there that the people using it havent got a clue to start with.
All the Liverpool attacking patterns you're talking about; they happen because they have midfielders who can run. They don't have an Odegaard in their midfield. Even the closest one; Harvey Elliot- can run.
the time wasting is to lower the effective minutes played over a full season, players are already injured and running them harder will make it worse. it looks horrible but the motivation behind it is inescapable
Totally agree. As well, I would add it's the opposite of the mindset the team should have. We're Arsenal. We should be looking to put teams to the sword. Obviously, it's not going to happen every game, but the last thing we should be doing is programming the team to have the opposite mindset.
You two sitting here flirting while making excuses for Arteta is making me wanna throw up. . .Jesus Christ with the injuries excuse, the referees are against us🤣 we stink, nothing going forward. That's the problem. Arteta should have had the pickpocketer teach them how to do it, not to be aware of it. They're all paranoid shells of themselves.
Liverpool will not be champions. They remind me of Arsenal in the 22/33 season. In fact they are not even as good as Arsenal in the 22/33 season. Major bottle job coming in the 2nd half of the season. Liverpool will NOT win the league. They'll be lucky to end up 2nd.
Oh yeah is that so, what's that make arsenal been behind us six points for what six weeks. No difference. We're going at 2.44 points a game while you go 2.00. you'll never close the gap until u up your game. With your depleted squad as y'all drone on about.
@@GrindSzn7 I just think Liverpool sprinted the first half of a marathon. They will not sustain this. They're not that good. If I'm wrong, hats off to Liverpool.
A lot of our problems start with squad building and the transfer windows. We don’t make it easy for ourselves to win trophies.
Squad building? We was the best team in 2024. What is wrong with the squad building?
@ not enough creative players in midfield. After last season we already knew we needed betrer quality on the wings and we always needed a saka back up. Jesus had a resurgance but long term isn’t good enough and havertz should be a back up striker. We loan a goalie who is bad and is also cup tied in carabao. Sterling sucks.
@@Kuwsh15we have more gks signed than attackers signed btw
So buy a 4th Rightback??? wdym?? Who would want to sit behind Odegaard in midfield. We got Odegaard, Havertz and Nwaneri as offensive midfielders. Who do Liverpool have bar Debruyne and Foden? no one has more than 2 or 3 players per position... It's also incredibly hard to find someone who is creative enough AND can do th e defensive duties Odegaard does. We are incredibly unlucky with injuries and if it wasn't for that horrendous decision by the ref, we would have won against a very strong Brighton. No team on the planet could have won that game under those circumstances 10/10 times.
Don’t forget Lee Mason forgetting to draw the lines against Brentford. Never happened before or since.
The thing is about ref decsions,its affecting us so much because we are not putting games to bed,like the Brighton penalty wouldnt have been a big deal if we scored 2-3 The other part is Liverpool last 6 pl games was 3 wins and 3 draws,i dont think we could have asked for anything better as a team chasing,yet the gap remains the same,probably thats why we wont win the league,because Pool will drop points but we cant capitalise on it
Agreed, we just have to make sure we're up by 4 at half-time every game so the inevitable refereeing decision doesn't take us down.
We literally didn't have Havertz and barely had Odegaard not to mention Saka. How the hell are you expecting us to put that game to bed?
Even all the players that played might not have been healthy.
Asking a frontline that naturally needs a bit of fresh air in this window to score 3 goals against a strong Brighton while half of our offensive players are injured/ill is quite a bit much. As any manager would have done: Put out all your 3 offensive players left and the team naturally is more defensive. With a more defensive team you don't score 4 goals. You score 1 and keep a clean sheet which got denied by anthony taylor. Sometimes luck just isn't on our side and that sometimes is 6 days a week currently...
Honestly PGMOL needs to be ripped up and start again
The standard of refereeing is awful but the reason it feels like it’s having such an impact on our season is because we aren’t scoring enough. If you only score 1 or 0 then you are always at risk of a bad decisions costing you more points
Arsenal had the best defence last season, city won the league. Arsenal have the best this season so far, Liverpool winning the league. Goals win games, not clean sheets. Our invincible season didn’t happen without Thierry henry, but we could have swapped a defender or two and still won. Robin van persie won the league for Man Utd when he left us, not Jonny Evan’s. It goes on and on.
I felt for Arteta after the game. The starting XI is a complete mess because of injuries, our depth was injured or ill (and got injured during the game!) so we have very little ways to change the game, and too many people were out of their natural position. It was too much in the end for me to expect a good performance, especially against a decent side. We’re at desperation stage regarding a new attacker, we had nothing in the tank second half.
Agreed. As much as I critizise him for some games (for example vs Fulham) (and yes every manager makes mistakes once a season), this one is not on Arteta. There are mature players that could step up like Trossard and Jesus and other than that when the referee does you dirty, you can just make the best out of your situation with all the injuries we had. The only things in our hand would be replacing trossard or Jesus for people who do the same but are 20% more effective at it.
Agree, the attacking signing should’ve been done long ago, maybe they could’ve bailed us out on Saturday when we were struggling
With all this we have the exact same points vs last season up until game week 20. What we can critique is the lack of depth in attack from the summer is showing up right now. It's funny when we had bodies, we didn't need them. Just the way it's going for us.
Funnily Liverpool are two/three points better off, granted they played a game less.
We just have to keep pace and if that's one nil wins so be it until we have some attackers back.
Enjoyed this episode lots of love guys ❤️
Mac Allister’s one touch forward pass is a major part of their early and quick transition.
Name another club who are targeted every season by a new PGMOL directive. Whether it’s Arteta on the sidelines, Ben White at corners, delaying the restart, etc … every season they introduce something which is specifically aimed at Arsenal without explicitly saying it. Yes, they are incompetent. You only have to watch Fulham v Ipswich to see just how bad the levels are in general. They also have gone out of their wait to impose rules on us that are solely designed to affect us and then get forgotten about in 99% of other instances. Both of these things are true.
People like Alex are to blame for refs continuing to cheat. I still remember Alex defending the journalist lying about Partey/Rodri incident. We can’t defend lying/bias and expect them to stop
ARTETA WANTS TO COACH EVERY ASPECT OF THE GAME AND THAT'S ONE OF THE BIGGEST REASONS WE ARE IN PHASE 5 OF THIS PROCESS AND NO MAJOR HONOURS!!
FA cup
1 Fa Cup in 5 years?👀 horrendous process
@@BigCala Well, reality is that there is 1 team that wins in every competition, so yeah, 99% of clubs don't win it. You are not living in reality. You are complaining about things you do not understand and therefore you are angry.
I am not angry, I am just watching this club that we all love not sure true ambition to push to win major honours. Do not be surprising the likes of Saliba and Saka leave the club in the next few years, if we do not win major honours.
@BigCala They will if we don't and it happened to many great teams and clubs before and will happen again. Injuries, refs and bugs are destroying out season and we are still in every competition and 2nd in EPL. Horrendous is supporting Southampton this season, that is horrendous.
Northern bias?!
When is there going to be an investigation into the PGMOL? Accountability!
As with life, football mirrors our reality. When we play the game we see players personality. We see the struggles of life played out in the arena.
As with life, the media control the narrative. It is up to independent media outlets like yourself to address this and challenge the legacy media’s narrative.
#KeepTheFaith #Ou2B #EiE ❤️🤍
I know it’s easy to call him out given his recent form, but is Ødegaard a bit of the issue with our play style?
When you guys covered some of the strengths of Liverpool and ways we can adapt how we attack and how we defend, it all goes back to Ø imo. He doesn’t make the forward runs like McCallister and Szob, he’s poor in transition, and also is too much of a liability on defense for us to leave Saka further forward similarly to how you described Liverpool do with Salah.
Dont think we can ever really adopt those things with him in the team, unless it’s exclusively down the LHS.
57:57 if this happened we’d have to protest
one attacking singing won't change the way arteta has us setup. this ball to feet stuff is killing us. also the club won't do any transfers in Jan sufficient to win the league. the owners genuinely dont care, which is why we are in this position in the first place
Arteta gets roasted for not playing Nwanari and then plays him 2 games in a row and now he's injured. We just can't get any luck.
We are having to play these players because the squad building has been poor from midfield up. And it’s so annoying every time we win the ball back we slow it down and start passing it sideways and backwards
There is a historical case against us with the PGMOL over the decades. They are ACTIVELY surpresing our progress. It's a massive problem to this club's legacy and potential. I hope a consensus in the fanbase grows in this existential matter. Teams can tackle us, aggressively but we can't tackle them.
Historical case or not. This started happening way more frequently after the Newcastle away game in the fall of 2023. Arteta said too much and the PGMOL don't tolerate anyone questioning them. They hate him and they hate us. That beef is still ongoing to the point where they are actively targeting our games and any excuse for them to help the opposition is taken immediately. Be it a second yellow, a straight red or penalties. Most of them being situations no other team in the league get penalized for.
It's so blatant, but as usual we are being gaslit by rival fans, the media and the PGMOL. Yes, it was not a great performance against Brighton, but their violent conduct was almost ignored. Veltman should honestly have been sent off, but didn't get a yellow until the 80th minute or so. Gabriel or Calafiori doing the same thing would have seen them sent off in the first half. It feels like the Arsenal players have to execute a perfect game every time while playing on egg shells. The corruption is so frustrating.
stat padding our Goals Scored and xG in away matches against Burnley & Sheffield Utd etc last season can’t hide that our attack has been unconvincing for quite a while. A window of Merino-Calafiori-Sterling was never going to fix this.
We’ve seen games like this with our strongest XI as well. Forget about “luck”.
So only 2 players have been available for every game, as you said Nwaneri now injured, Neto cup tied, and Saliba and Trossard had bans. Only J20 and Kiwior
Only thing we can do is try to keep it at 3 points between us before going to Anfield. Then we have to win that match - that is a 6 pointer. Right now we just have to keep that gap at 9 - until end of January at least and hope Liverpool get a couple of losses at some point before we play them. I think we have to go unbeaten the rest of the year in the league - draws away are okay at certain grounds but every home match has to be won. If we don't accept this fight there is no point in playing - our players won't give in to that and Mikel certainly won't. I really hope our fans will honestly make the Emirates an absolute cauldron every single match from now on our. Lets give it our best shot lads - need Sterling, Ben white, Tomi etc to come back and give us depth whilst Saka is out and I keep saying this - but Martin Odegaard has to be the best player in the league by a distance starting this week as long as he is not feeling sick.
does Rohan have his own channel? over the couple years or so watching TCP and TDK I've gone from thinking he's annoying when he features to being the most insightful and concise source of arsenal analysis I can find on the internet.
In the 343 diamond formation Jesus is our ONLY option at CF. This tactic does not work with Havertz up front and anyone any other player at the tip of the diamond. We DESPERATLY need another goal machine in the number 9 position now! Im looking at you, Isak!
The penalty is a weird one. Saliba goes for the ball, misses it and takes out the player - it should be a pen. However historically these are almost never called as fouls just like the Gordon one
Our bench as one of podcaster says is a park bench carpark and he has been saying that for a long time
This idea that there are guys that are available for 20 mil more in January is just silly. Like who are these players? Most don't want to leave their team mid way through if their team is in a fight. Pay 20 mil for that doesn't help.
This season feels like the 04/05 season
I don’t think many people are saying there’s a conspiracy I think it’s more to do with referee bias for example the bias is that we use “dark arts” so when we for example kick the ball away like everyone else does we get punished more for it
I’m going to keep imagining that the whole team is fit and together just in time for UCL final 😎
I think your discussion on Arteta using metrics to analyse performance is a good one because it highlights a few things. Firstly, the games where we drop points are often the games where it’s our manager lacking creativity. In his head ‘we deserved to win based on the metrics’ is disingenuous when we use our eye test to see that we create nothing in the attacking third.
It also plays into the methodology of ‘ we don’t play the opponent, we focus on ourselves’. Arteta has players following rigid systems that don’t adapt and evolve in real time because he has taken the creative elements out of our play. Wenger had the same philosophy of looking inwards but he also allowed players to show their strength which is why we had seasons of beautiful football. Wenger ball. Nobody is going to be describing arsenal as ‘arteta ball’ because our football doesn’t even have a distinctive trait outside of set piece proficiency.
Final point, and sorry for the rant: if we can’t improve on martinelli in the attacking third, or Jesus in the attacking third, or having only an injured sterling on the bench (whom never played when he was fit) or an upgrade on nwaneri who should be starting for us in 2 years time when he’s had a chance to physically develop (loans didn’t hurt saliba) - then we have to question our competence in the transfer market and also Artetas competence as a manager at gauging attacking talent. We can’t have a lineup of 11 yes men who are hamstrung by Arteta’s fixation on stats.
Can you write thesame expose showing all the positive stats that his obsession over stats have had over the last 3yrs, or do the wins not count until we win the league or champions league?
Whilst I fully agree with you that Arteta has worked wonders with Arsenal in terms of what he inherited to where we are now: we will soon fall into the same trap that Arsene wenger had of suggesting CL football and being ‘competitive’ (top 4 finish) is all that’s required. Not signing attacking players just cements that in my view. Speculate to accumulate.
If Arteta is unwilling to change his method for the betterment of the team to get results that will win us the league is just clear evidence to show he’s not ready yet to be a title winning manager.
Their's not only one David Coote in the PGMOL!
Neto is not a bad keeper, strange take, as a second keeper he is more than fine. He might not be as good as Raya with feet, not many are, but he is a solid on the line keeper.
Where can I read Rohizzles write ups?
As I was watching the Liverpool match, I couldn't help but notice that no Arsenal game will ever be that chaotic. That's Arteta
Crystal Palace game was
I don't necessarily think it's a corruption issue in the sense they target Arsenal to drop points (though it could be we know the corruption that surrounds City) but I think it's more a case of certain referees and public consensus not liking Arsenal and acting out on their subtle biases. Like the two red cards for delaying the restart. Those are called by vindictive refs. Arteta or something has annoyed them and they've gone watch this.
I'm not from England but seems the banter and tribalism will never allow fans from other teams to discuss these types of things candidly. It will always digress into trolling.
Referees are now inventing infringement against Arsenal, how pathetic is that.
Rohan, Mikel DOES need to be braver. We do need to incorporate that into our game, we have some of the best defenders and 6 in world football, Mikel needs to trust that they can do their jobs should we be broken on. Attacking with the enthasis on 'not conceding' will not win us titles
RE the first points. I can guarantee you speak to fans from every other club and they can tell you the same thing- they think they are really unlucky with injuries and ref decisions.
We are just in our arsenal bubble and see mainly arsenal things. We are not different to other clubs imo.
Arteta and the team need to find a way to overcome these variances every season. Because they WILL happen
The moment I saw the ref give the pen I just thought "At least it's a soft pen and not like what happened to Chelsea".
Best league in the world, worst referees in the world. Almost Every team has suffered from them
That has to change
Someone has raised the question "if they were so good why they almost never in the world cup?"
Ask yourself arsenal fans - if the pen on Saturday was the other way around- we would 100% be calling for the pen. Saying "yeah it's really unlucky but he's headbutted him in the box".
We got outplayed Saturday for 60% of the game. That's the story.
I understand your reticence to call a conspiracy but I put it to you that there are relative bias in the league. There are decisions made every weekend which bias north v south, big club v small club and yes, Arsenal v big anyone. The potential of Arsenal in the capital city is interpreted as threatening to the elite Northern clubs. Our pull around the world is very attractive. Any success would be a string board like no other. You'll get there in the end lads. Love y'all's analysis
Depends on what you Call "Corruption", refs clearly treat Arsenal a bit different, if people refuse to see it, it is on them. Wolves also got incredibly bad decisions, almost to a level you would want to investigate what was going on there...
I think calling PGMOL incompetent for YEARS is like people calling the politicians idiots.. its a naive take, I think Arteta made refs a bit upset with his disgrace remarks and the whole case about Newcastle...
Gents we are in trouble if we don't UPGRADE our Players our team are not a title winning team
On refs, my theory is , maybe it's not corruption but there's definitely a hierarchy.
Manchester Clubs> Liverpool> The rest> Arsenal.
We get fogged in big games and in games against smaller sides.
I’m amazed at the various psychologists in the comments, re “ mentally slow players”, transfer experts, coaching experts, etc. No evidence of humility, when it’s all based on opinions without demonstrable expertise.
I think its about time the FA go and cherry pick the best refs from around the world and move them to England to ref the premier league, its done with players and managers why can't it be done with refs, its a total shambles the way the refs are acting in every game and its not getting any better, when VAR came in people was saying it needs a season or two to iron out small issues, well them issues are still there that the people using it havent got a clue to start with.
What is the excuse today for why we look like crap again whenever Rice plays CDM? Put some effort into making it make sense please.
Lads, watch back the rice, trossard and saliba red&pens back. Just watch them back 😂😂 tell me again it’s coincidence
Just wanna say Rohan's comb over is distracting
We dont need ONE attacker this window. We need TWO. Go get Mamoush and Olmo this January
Marmoush wants city, Olmo wants Barcelona and gets injured all the time.
@@olsenfernandes3634 you think players can't be persuaded?
Isak and Bakayoko OR Nico Williams and Sesko
The only question is WHAT ARSENAL AS A CLUB WANT, THEIR AMBITION, WHAT KIND TROPHIES THEY WANT WIN???
All the Liverpool attacking patterns you're talking about; they happen because they have midfielders who can run.
They don't have an Odegaard in their midfield. Even the closest one; Harvey Elliot- can run.
Stop the time wasting and play some decent football.
the time wasting is to lower the effective minutes played over a full season, players are already injured and running them harder will make it worse. it looks horrible but the motivation behind it is inescapable
@@georgecoles7268it’s pathetic and now costing us suspensions
Totally agree. As well, I would add it's the opposite of the mindset the team should have. We're Arsenal. We should be looking to put teams to the sword. Obviously, it's not going to happen every game, but the last thing we should be doing is programming the team to have the opposite mindset.
Be quiet
i don't think it's deliberate our players are mentally slow..can't even take a quick throw in its embarrassing
One hour of an excuses again
You two sitting here flirting while making excuses for Arteta is making me wanna throw up. . .Jesus Christ with the injuries excuse, the referees are against us🤣 we stink, nothing going forward. That's the problem. Arteta should have had the pickpocketer teach them how to do it, not to be aware of it. They're all paranoid shells of themselves.
Liverpool will not be champions. They remind me of Arsenal in the 22/33 season. In fact they are not even as good as Arsenal in the 22/33 season. Major bottle job coming in the 2nd half of the season. Liverpool will NOT win the league. They'll be lucky to end up 2nd.
Oh yeah is that so, what's that make arsenal been behind us six points for what six weeks. No difference. We're going at 2.44 points a game while you go 2.00. you'll never close the gap until u up your game. With your depleted squad as y'all drone on about.
You sound confident why’s that? (Honest question)
@@GrindSzn7 I just think Liverpool sprinted the first half of a marathon. They will not sustain this. They're not that good. If I'm wrong, hats off to Liverpool.
@@ikeobanya5138 i agree with you they will definitely drop points