@@parkyamato9450 what about clem, and reynor, I mean no duh, koreans were the first to get into esports, if sweden and denmark did it like that, they would be more competitive but they did it for csgo, it's impressive to me as someone who as gone back and forth from supporting asia and sort of aryan people and supporting europe to see how consistently europe is good at every other game which is respectable, korea hasn't been all that good in csgo and I don't think much would change with pc bangs tbh, europe didn't need it for sc2and other games
“So we have this concept called War of Attrition where one basically aims to win a fight by wearing down an opponent and cutting off all their access to resources...”
@@kdao17 That's pretty much how SC is played anyway. You rarely go for the killing blow. You just look to push your advantage further and further until you get to the point the game is unloseable because you've worked yourself into such a lead.
I mean basically until Diamond 4, all the elos are practically the same. It’s only after you get through Diamond 2 that you notice a bigger skill difference in players and matches.
ikr, like why did league have to be the first moba i get into. why couldn’t it have been actually good games first and then i could be insane at league for once
@@Psijax Serral, Special, Clem, Reynor, Lambo. those 5 are doing very great and quite toe to toe with the koreans. like stats, trap and dark although... dark and trap is on fire lately
This is great. Tim and Nick look are genuinely having a lot of fun teaching Juan. And for sure, with his Pro SC2-level mouse mechanics, he's improving so quickly that it's a total blast to watch. But still: making content like this is definitely in the best interest for their health. Balancing their lives with not too many work hours, emphasizing quality (having fun, expressing themselves genuinely) over quantity (outputting more content to maximize viewer-minutes), and most importantly, doing things they enjoy. They can actually **live**. Be. Learn. And grow. And like, if they never want to review another scuffed, sinful, stale-af draft/match ever again, then I'm all for it. Like they've said, there really *is* nothing to talk about, and having to critique the same mistakes over and over would drive anyone to max malding stacks.
Does anyone know if this is the sc2 player he talked about years ago where he said something like "If he picked up the game I would probably be able to ask him genuine questions about the game after 6-12 months"?
Special is one of the SC2 players that since his talent on specially micro and also macro management is very polished, (to the point of you have to manage the army, while keeping the vision. keeping tabs of army comp and stuff) league is actually a nice game to assess and a year is decent enough for an assessment
I like how deep and complex the league can be. you can simply press the keyboard and be good at it or use intelligence and knowledge to destroy your opponent, the two together would be the apex. Realizing that team play makes the match have a totally different environment than soloq, and knowing that the two types of lol coexist is insane. Well, I've experienced a bit of everything, playing soloq with the best meta characters, playing casually, teaming up in small leagues, but now all I know, all my will and time is being turned to one thing in this game, Maokai Mid. I'm in this saga, to enable and reach the maokai master mid to 4 months, and I'm realizing how it is possible to optimize several points of the strategy, hidden mechanics in the character, improving every day. Finally, I would like to say that I would like you to approach the topic of Off Meta, and that the best part of off meta is really that it is off meta.
This was really fun to watch, I love SpeCial and am a very big starcraft fan! Seeing you two trying to introduce him to game was kinda hard to watch though ngl. You were basically trying to coach a Plat player on every small thing their character can do, although you were sitting around an iron player that didnt even know how to properly auto attack something! :D Would have loved to see you two tell him to calm down a bit and that he doesnt need to have 500 Apm while learning the basics of the game
Damn all he needs is to learn what all the champions do (which would take months of continuous playing honestly), but his movement and mouse control are insane. He's pretty good at absorbing info cos honestly who wouldn't be overwhelmed in his position
@@acidpop97 Its not really about the pace, its about trying to force him to get combos, aa resets, optimal ult stacking... he can read this shit later, give the man some time to get used to autoattacks having animations xD
This game seems fun there are no banelings here is the best the best part to me. God I hate banelings. This is awesome. I just reinstalled Sc2 to get back into it and this shows up on my feed. The timing is perfect. So much nostalgia seeing Special
I'm interested in the ideas that the new guest is going to bring to the table, I know that he is new to the game but implementing stuff from other games is always interesting.
Yah any SC2 player that can compete at a GSL level is gonna have absurdly good mechanics immediately TBH. Its just the nature of how similar the games movements are. If anything's gonna be difficult for them it would be game knowledge but considering the fuck fest starcraft can become I'd doubt they would struggle with it. Special and Scarlett are definitely 2 of my favorite starcraft players :3
Kiting originated FROM rts games like Starcraft.. The guy SpeCial here has been kiting units in SC: Broodwar, before even the existence of Warcraft 3 and Dota, before the MOBA genre was even a thing.
Loved this video, love to see new players coming and not flaming someone also getting choaced by ls and neme is an amazing expearience. PS he is actually better than every new player gl
That's why you should use 800dpi like most SC2 players do :)) Insane accuracy. SC2 just requires more mechanical skill than League so most of them use 800 instead of 1600. And don't use edge scrolling, use Mouse 3 (middle click) instead. It's a lot faster.
Special or ls or nemesis should get an editor to make a montage/moments series of his learning, leveling and starting ranked. This is really unique content but the first videos where he is completely lost are important to set up background and make the story complete.
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would be hilatious if ls and special tried to coach nemesis on starcraft
That would be amazing
please we need this
big true
Farinha
Never played StarCraft in my life and I’d definitely watch this
"You're letting a twink get away. That would never happen on my watch"
-LS, Gayge
Its scary how clean his movement is. SC players are just built different. Respect!
And Eu is the best at it rn 👀
@@dragonplayz6606 one player actually, the others are all Koreans lmao, that's why kr have all the championship except two lol
@@dragonplayz6606 and yet they have less wins than other regions lmao
@@parkyamato9450 what about clem, and reynor, I mean no duh, koreans were the first to get into esports, if sweden and denmark did it like that, they would be more competitive but they did it for csgo, it's impressive to me as someone who as gone back and forth from supporting asia and sort of aryan people and supporting europe to see how consistently europe is good at every other game which is respectable, korea hasn't been all that good in csgo and I don't think much would change with pc bangs tbh, europe didn't need it for sc2and other games
@@Trails3rdFanboy what
5:26 "This game seems fun, there's no banelings here." LOL. As a Zerg player this is hilarious
some one can't split his marines LOL
Teemo shroom
@@DoYouEvenRift gotta red scan to reveal the burrowed banes
Wait till he learns about temo
Kog'Maw passive tho
Juan hits level 7 and LS be like : " Hey Juan , imagine yourself in a room and you got a gun to your head..."
“So we have this concept called War of Attrition where one basically aims to win a fight by wearing down an opponent and cutting off all their access to resources...”
He basically has a gun to his head In the form of LS aka lost sense
HAHAHAHAAHHAAHA
If anyone wants to know what War of Attrition feels like then go play modern in magic with a deck called "Lantern Control".
@@kdao17 That's pretty much how SC is played anyway. You rarely go for the killing blow. You just look to push your advantage further and further until you get to the point the game is unloseable because you've worked yourself into such a lead.
This is my dream video; StarCraft 2, LS, and Nemesis
"she's a marine"
Pretty accurate, she even has the stim pack
stim pack would mean u lose health tho
@@mareksicinski3726 the health is lost as sanity the moment you choose to play adc
reaper more so
I would be so down to watch his journey if he wanted to actually start to play league, watching this was really fun and interesting
He has started. Streamed yesterday and today. His twitch is special_
@@BoofGoof twitch name?
@@kreep4776 …. I said “His twitch is special_”
@@BoofGoof Oh nice thanks for letting me know :D
many sc2 pros have played league
I'm waiting for "SpeCial coaches nemesis how to micro marines vs banelings"
Ls:
Me : platinum after playing for 8 years
Same
Gold in LAS. Imagine that level of dead :(
@@pristika9007 yikes
I mean basically until Diamond 4, all the elos are practically the same. It’s only after you get through Diamond 2 that you notice a bigger skill difference in players and matches.
@@The_Lightless sure, 97 percentile is the same as 10 percentile, makes sense
"Has red bar, means enemy" ... didn't seem like that 0 20 nunu with ghost cleanse on my ranked game was an enemy, and he had a red bar
His marine micro stutter step coming out at 2:10. You can take the Terran out of Starcraft but you can't take the Starcraft out of a Terran.
Imagine a child only drilled by LS and Nemesis to play pro League, misses 1 cs continues to lock door
If he gets less than 10cs/min he goes to bed with no dinner.
Time to project my childhood traumas from Asian parents onto my future children and make the next chovy
wording...
This guy is insane.
The kiting in the first tutorial is like me after 3 years of playing hahaha
ikr, like why did league have to be the first moba i get into. why couldn’t it have been actually good games first and then i could be insane at league for once
Kiting in general is a mechanic that RTS and MOBA shares
@@kmc_rta yeah in general clik to move real time games
@@Galexiie I played GunZ the Duel before League. High level players there had higher APM than even SC2 pros. Helped me a lot coming to league in 2010
Wow, that's Special? He's lost a lot of weight, congratulations! That's inspiring ngl
True man he used to be much worse, now hes a topmodel
@@paologramatica9231 ye he went on a diet and started exercising abt a year ago
I've been watching his streams learning league, this guy is insane, his growth is absurdly fast
get more content with him
Do you know how far he got? Just remembered they tried to get him to play decent and i would like to know if he continued
Major aka Juanito was one of the most underrated foreigners in SC2s prime days
He still is one of the best, finished top 16 in last season GSL and top 8 in most recent Super Tournament
@@Psijax Serral, Special, Clem, Reynor, Lambo. those 5 are doing very great and quite toe to toe with the koreans. like stats, trap and dark although... dark and trap is on fire lately
@@ferryfernandus1423 Also big Gabe
dpends what u consider prime days
based on im assuming ur referring to like 2012?
do u mean in like 2012 if 'most underrated'?
I watched him a few times. He is such a flavor amongst Korean SC2 pros.
Shout out to all the SC2 OGs that knows SpeCial as MajOr. Great Collab, would love to see LS play Broodwar or SC2 again.
"Are you using locked camera?"
"Do I look like I know what that is?"
It's actually insane how fast he learns and how instantaneous he applies something you guys are shouting at him.
I have never seen Special this excited before. Powerful stuff
This is great. Tim and Nick look are genuinely having a lot of fun teaching Juan. And for sure, with his Pro SC2-level mouse mechanics, he's improving so quickly that it's a total blast to watch.
But still: making content like this is definitely in the best interest for their health. Balancing their lives with not too many work hours, emphasizing quality (having fun, expressing themselves genuinely) over quantity (outputting more content to maximize viewer-minutes), and most importantly, doing things they enjoy. They can actually **live**. Be. Learn. And grow.
And like, if they never want to review another scuffed, sinful, stale-af draft/match ever again, then I'm all for it. Like they've said, there really *is* nothing to talk about, and having to critique the same mistakes over and over would drive anyone to max malding stacks.
Seeing special again brings the feels. Any terran player has my support
It's so good to see that LS and Nemesis finally are fulfilling their dream of adopting the appropriate child into their relationship.
Does anyone know if this is the sc2 player he talked about years ago where he said something like "If he picked up the game I would probably be able to ask him genuine questions about the game after 6-12 months"?
Yes
Special is one of the SC2 players that since his talent on specially micro and also macro management is very polished, (to the point of you have to manage the army, while keeping the vision. keeping tabs of army comp and stuff)
league is actually a nice game to assess and a year is decent enough for an assessment
@@ferryfernandus1423 well and his way of playing is specifically basdd on 'theory crafting'
Day 22 of going in.
Ah crap, if Special starts playing League I’m gonna have to worry about him on the pro circuit in about 3 months or so.
Fudge, watch out he might be out for your spot.
I'm glad to see SpeCial here : D Can't wait to see more!!!
I like how deep and complex the league can be. you can simply press the keyboard and be good at it or use intelligence and knowledge to destroy your opponent, the two together would be the apex. Realizing that team play makes the match have a totally different environment than soloq, and knowing that the two types of lol coexist is insane. Well, I've experienced a bit of everything, playing soloq with the best meta characters, playing casually, teaming up in small leagues, but now all I know, all my will and time is being turned to one thing in this game, Maokai Mid. I'm in this saga, to enable and reach the maokai master mid to 4 months, and I'm realizing how it is possible to optimize several points of the strategy, hidden mechanics in the character, improving every day. Finally, I would like to say that I would like you to approach the topic of Off Meta, and that the best part of off meta is really that it is off meta.
that is not quite evrything
i was so confused at first... until i realized it's a crossover of my two most favorite games.
i genuinely enjoyed watching this content and I love you guys. Hope you have a blessed day.
I'm looking forward for the next video of that serie ! :P
I watched the full 2 vods pog, it was great. Rly cant wait to see more, juan's funny
This was really fun to watch, I love SpeCial and am a very big starcraft fan!
Seeing you two trying to introduce him to game was kinda hard to watch though ngl.
You were basically trying to coach a Plat player on every small thing their character can do, although you were sitting around an iron player that didnt even know how to properly auto attack something! :D Would have loved to see you two tell him to calm down a bit and that he doesnt need to have 500 Apm while learning the basics of the game
Great vid, fun concept!
Loving this content!!! Very refreshing to have the outside view here.
I'll be rooting for you Juan, Gl hf!
would honestly love to see his progress he has potential!
"you're playing with camera lock" Nemesis XD tutorial is automatically camera locked
This is one of the most ambitious crossovers in the history of crossovers.
damn hit him hard with using an old picture
please upload more its honestly really entertaining
Damn all he needs is to learn what all the champions do (which would take months of continuous playing honestly), but his movement and mouse control are insane. He's pretty good at absorbing info cos honestly who wouldn't be overwhelmed in his position
Yeah, LS and Neme just puke on him with all the info, terrible start for a new player xD
@@OGRadion not really nemesis is pretty patient. LS speaks a bit fast paced.
@@acidpop97 Its not really about the pace, its about trying to force him to get combos, aa resets, optimal ult stacking... he can read this shit later, give the man some time to get used to autoattacks having animations xD
I loved this stream and vod, would love to see more coaching league with Juan.
So cool of him to do this
Is that the Mexican Terran in the blue trunks SpeCial? Super good foreign player, gl in dream hack masters
looking forward to see his progress :)
Can’t wait to see more of this
LS: "Morgana the purple bitch"
This is fun, theres no banelings here XDXD
Juanito! awesome Sc2 pro to showcase
8:58 I wish I was half chovy
Special!!! I watch him all the time
Never thought I'd see special playing league
I cant wait for the next stream with him!
we love him already ls
Loooooove the content
His wildturtle impression.
You can unlock camera in tutorial, click and drag at the minimap a couple of times.
It will lock back if you center the screen though.
Special or major is such a legend
Anther soul taken by league of legends, there is no turning back now
Suddenly a line of banes start rolling down mid and you need to do a minion split
SPECIAL??? mi hermano!
how is it that i just got this recommended
This game seems fun there are no banelings here is the best the best part to me. God I hate banelings. This is awesome. I just reinstalled Sc2 to get back into it and this shows up on my feed. The timing is perfect. So much nostalgia seeing Special
That was fucken amazing man. MOARRRR
LS + Nemesis = PINKY & THE BRAIN!!!!!
"there is no bailingns" wait for teemo...
It's facinating to me how much he struggled with basic mechanics after he got into the regular bot games.
this guy is cracked right from the tutorial i love it
10:54
"IF YOU HAVE W JUMP ON THE WOMAN"
-LS THE WISE MAN
I'm interested in the ideas that the new guest is going to bring to the table, I know that he is new to the game but implementing stuff from other games is always interesting.
well it is not exactly the same as implementing stuff from other games esp when its slo explored
This was so fun live
😂😂😂😂😂😂
They removed baneling busts when Zzroth was deleted
Hey LS, it's everyone
I'm super excited for him to play rank
wasn't a big fan of LS for a bit, but after a while I know me and him would get along.
That was really fun to watch, content like this is really enjoyable
i want to see more!!!
I love how LS is using starcraft terms with special, and lemon has no clue what they mean
great content
SO MORE! YAY
Attack the dog, the nasus 😂
in one video this man progessed faster than 90% of na pros... doomed region
Yah any SC2 player that can compete at a GSL level is gonna have absurdly good mechanics immediately TBH. Its just the nature of how similar the games movements are.
If anything's gonna be difficult for them it would be game knowledge but considering the fuck fest starcraft can become I'd doubt they would struggle with it.
Special and Scarlett are definitely 2 of my favorite starcraft players :3
he is insane. Better than twitch chat no doubt
hes kiting without being taught wtf
he is a terran player, he is used to kiting 3 different groups of units at once
Kiting is pretty obvious if you know how to click. But since most of us learned how to click on League it seems bizarre :P
Star Craft is mechanically way more demanding than League.
Kiting originated FROM rts games like Starcraft.. The guy SpeCial here has been kiting units in SC: Broodwar, before even the existence of Warcraft 3 and Dota, before the MOBA genre was even a thing.
I might get into lol as a starcraft pleyer to see how it gos
Loved this video, love to see new players coming and not flaming someone also getting choaced by ls and neme is an amazing expearience. PS he is actually better than every new player gl
That's why you should use 800dpi like most SC2 players do :)) Insane accuracy. SC2 just requires more mechanical skill than League so most of them use 800 instead of 1600. And don't use edge scrolling, use Mouse 3 (middle click) instead. It's a lot faster.
Special or ls or nemesis should get an editor to make a montage/moments series of his learning, leveling and starting ranked. This is really unique content but the first videos where he is completely lost are important to set up background and make the story complete.
oh hey its special
Does anyone know where to find the vods of him playing more league? Thanks in advance)
It's SPECIAL YESSSS
Great video 😂😂😂
this a good one
That spacing tho
MajOr SpeCial coming in from Code A
I enjoyed his stream
abilities: exist
juanito: stim and auto
ohhh its maj0r didnt realize it was him off name