To be fair Atrioc was pretty good, he's like average level, Stanz was beginner level and Lud was basically irrelevant lmao. It's just that Artosis is THAT good to make an average player look like complete shit. And the most insane part is that the best players in the world make HIM look like shit too. So many levels in that game, it's actually insane.
Wait in starcraft is it that one game with like a few different races like 3 i think. Also like any gathering game if you have this many more people in a team it should be a insant win if your half decent. Because no matter how good your enimy is. You just have so many more resources that it doesn’t even matter. The only way someone thats very good even has a chance is that they take them out early before they have a chance to build up. Or take over enough of the map quick enough that you can actually overload them and have enough resources to make up enough for how much they make. Though this can be destroyed from propery corrlation bewteen attacks. If you try building up your defenses and preparing for long haul your gonna lose it for sure. Because they will just completly overwelm you with relentless amounts of troops from their insane amount of resources. Now if ludwig actually did something maybe they could of won. No matter how little he did as long as he actually did something it would be enough. I had this experience first hand
For those unfamiliar with Starcraft, Artosis is a professional CASTER, not a professional player. He is still a very good Starcraft player, but not as refined in build mechanics and unit control where pros really shine.
Hey, Ludwig won the last game! Sure, he was on Artosis's team, and it was touch and go for a bit, but he won! Also won with the cheese strat, so Lud won 2 out of 3 games. Technically.
RTS are definitely that kind of game with huge-ass skill gaps. Hell, even between amateurish players; I remember playing AoE 2 with two friends, and me and one of the two had to always team up against the other AND create "honour rules" (basically, no early rush) because the third guy had a way better APM, probably thanks to piano. We even all kinda acknowledged that he was the best by far, that I was decent enough at defense and resource gathering to keep up in these domains, and that my teammate really wasn't that great at either speed nor strategy, so even between three amateurs we all knew who would win against who in 1v1s before even clicking play.
@@mareksicinski3726 From my own experience, Starcraft seems similar in complexity but faster in pace, so yeah. Skillgaps would be even more pronounced.
@@Jaime_Protein_Cannister Meh, the intention was clear enough to make the games enjoyable, at least for me. Then again, APM dude wasn't mean, just REALLY good, so he kinda just went soft early-game before we were ready to have an actual brawl.
dont ever tune into his stream then LOL. i think hes genuin and generally nice but he rages *alot* and with great intensity, so probably not very chill, at least as long as starcraft is concerned.
Artosis has about 300 apm on average. 350 during peak combat. 220-260 during regular game play. He's an A+ to S- Player on Korean servers with an average of 2100-2200 MMR. He is a professional caster and has played for 22 years. Very skilled and intelligent player, however very salty and rages a bit often. Professional players have from 350 to 550 APM in game usually. 300 at a minimum. They usually have 2400 to 2800 MMR. If anyone was wondering how close he was to actually pro.
For those kids who are probably my age(16) or younger, starcraft is essentially a real time strategy scifi game, my dad let me play this game when i was 10 i think
Message at first minute : Lud doesn't know how to play at all? damn he dead. edit : that was very fun to watch. The last game probably was exhausting to play hehehe.
I did this experiment with my coworkers in sc2 I was diamond vs 3 golds/silver players. I crushed them all vs me at the same time for over a year.. I'll just say there is no way in hell they win vs artosis... PS: just got to game 2 ... jesus christ...
The Korean pro-scene is very much still alive. StarCraft ain't the mainstream juggernaut it was 10-20 years ago, but it's still got a playerbase as large as StarCraft 2
I have no idea how to play starcraft but I've played somewhat similar games and it kept looking like Ludwig would group troops send them to attack something then group them again so they would stop and send them to attack the same thing
We need more of this type of challenges, like rocket league but lud has to be the one scoring, maybe only pistol valorant, vs infinite money, idk, it would defenetly make it interesting
The guys were great, i am impressed how well they managed to keep up, Ludwig was doing alright, i was afraid that Artosis will get mad at him, because normally i see him angry all the time, but he was probably having fun too : ) I would not mind to see more of this : D
Atrioc’s team idea reminded me of hand and brain chess which is my favorite variant. One person picks the piece, other player picks the square, surely nothing goes wrong from there
Everyone (with or without brood wars experience) can beat artosis in this 3 simple steps. 1) pick protoss; 2) build an arbiter and a bunch of dragoons; 3) fly your arbiter into RT base and recall your army. It is that simple! p.s. RT apm compared to when he ladders looks like he is just playing casually
If Artosis weren't able to communicate with Ludwig on the second match and it were up to him to figure out what to do with the units, the other two might have had a chance. He may have suicided most of the units until all their bases ran out of minerals.
You should do a “can 3 gamers beat 1 pro in apex legends” and do it where you, atrioc, and stanz are on a team and the pro no-fills, highest ranking team wins. Like so Ludwig might see this vvv. You could do this with thatpunchkidlive, zylbrad, trunoom, ottr, xkibitz, or others
Don't take this as an attack on artosis, he's fucking awesome and probably one of the most passionate people about starcraft and starcraft 2. But I wouldn't say he's a professional player, he's a professional caster (and although I have no idea what metric you would rank casters by, I'm sure that whatever you go with, he'll be in the top), he's still going to be a better player than 99% of anybody who touches this game, but there's a gigantic difference between top 1% and top 0.1% in these types of games.
he kinda was tho. he just wasnt paid for it because back then in the early 2000 there was no money in esport. he was not known internationally but he was a big name in the us.
This makes me realize how much I suck, I’m not Ludwig level suck at star craft but I am not the kinda guy who puts everything down as fast as possible.
‘So here’s lidwig, he has two scv’s not mining so we’re going to ignore him the whole game’
Clout denied
First too
Lidwug
I mean it's Artosis, it's not like he needs it
And yet it was completely accurate.
*lidwig* got me dying 🤣
Stanz: “this is the greatest probe I’ve ever seen in my life”
goes back to Lud
Ludwig: “Go little buddy go”
that fucking probe killed me
That got me
@@TjerniganWG you will be remembered drone
And he's calling out "monkeys chasing me!"
The amount of times “this should beat them” but Ludwig does a Ludwig and it doesn’t beat them lol.
"You just killed your own carrier."
hi :)
He didn't do a ludwig because he was just dog xd
Ludwin would have beaten them with the zealots.
Ludwin would of been the pro the bros were trying to beat
As someone who has been watching Artosis since 2008, I have to say... this is the weirdest crossover episode ever.
damn respect, two years longer than me and most others!
imadgine it was flash lmao
Yes this is like a fever dream.
yeah, I love when weird crossovers like this happen.
11:02 is the exact equivalent of giving your brother a fake controller to let him think he's playing while you do the real work.
Not exactly
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
its like when a nerd creates genius contraptions and gives it to the jock
I haven’t even watched this yes and i know this is gonna go horribly
I saw this weeks ago on BIG A's channel
@@Phantom-fo6um idk where I read it but it makes sense how Atrioc's channel is basically Ludwig Premium
Yeah. I haven't watched it either and I can say for certain if the guy wanted to he could end it in 5 minutes.
This might be the single most painful videos to watch
i was gona say the same thing
Real homies know this happened like a month ago and already watched Big A's and Staniels videos
Yeah
Was about to say the same thing
Ye
I WAS ABOUT TO SAY
Real homies watch any time, any where.
"Can 3 Gamers Beat 1 Starcraft Pro?"
immediately after reading the title, no, not a chance LOL
Not even a pro, a caster.
Can't wait for can 3 gamers beat 1 age of empires 2 Pro
It was the most one sided possible challenge and it was insanely good odds for them and Artosis is a caster
If 3 people worker-rushed a pro with perfect map knowledge, then yes.
If they all played protoss and built a pylon in arty's base then yes GG.
i literally dont understand this game but im assuming they did horrible
You’d probably play better than Ludwig after playing the tutorial.
they did
@@oak4026 when?
To be fair Atrioc was pretty good, he's like average level, Stanz was beginner level and Lud was basically irrelevant lmao.
It's just that Artosis is THAT good to make an average player look like complete shit. And the most insane part is that the best players in the world make HIM look like shit too.
So many levels in that game, it's actually insane.
Wait in starcraft is it that one game with like a few different races like 3 i think. Also like any gathering game if you have this many more people in a team it should be a insant win if your half decent. Because no matter how good your enimy is. You just have so many more resources that it doesn’t even matter.
The only way someone thats very good even has a chance is that they take them out early before they have a chance to build up. Or take over enough of the map quick enough that you can actually overload them and have enough resources to make up enough for how much they make. Though this can be destroyed from propery corrlation bewteen attacks. If you try building up your defenses and preparing for long haul your gonna lose it for sure. Because they will just completly overwelm you with relentless amounts of troops from their insane amount of resources.
Now if ludwig actually did something maybe they could of won. No matter how little he did as long as he actually did something it would be enough. I had this experience first hand
For those unfamiliar with Starcraft, Artosis is a professional CASTER, not a professional player. He is still a very good Starcraft player, but not as refined in build mechanics and unit control where pros really shine.
Artosis is a former professional player, and still a very, very good player.
@@narazil 20 years former lul
@@Darteghoster you forget he's also a BLIZZCON WINNER... In hearthstone LUL
to us unfamiliar with starcraft, the word CASTER means absolutely nothing :'D
And Caster is different from player......how????
"He has two SCVs not mining, so we're going to ignore him the whole game."
Replace SCV with drone and you have my skillset as a Protoss player
Protoss? Just mass marines lmao
The fact that you said drone and then protoss, makes me believe you ;)
Professional button masher: This will be fine
Star craft players: *Maniacal Laughter*
The moment he said “we have a fighting chance” I knew they were screwed
The moment I read the title I thought the same xD And Artosis isn’t even a pro (he is a caster)
@ I mean he did play professionally... 15 years ago.
@@LordAJ12345 And on SC2, not BW, which he streams as a hobby lol
I think I heard somewhere Arty participated in amateur BW tournaments in the 90s tho
@@fulldisclosureiamamonster2786 he used to be active in Brood War tournaments years ago as well
This is just going to be a series of Ludwig and friends get overly confident and loose isn’t it
Hey, Ludwig won the last game! Sure, he was on Artosis's team, and it was touch and go for a bit, but he won! Also won with the cheese strat, so Lud won 2 out of 3 games. Technically.
YEP
"loose"
what the fuck bro Ludwig is an English major and we can't be having this trash spelling
@@lucedoke975 nah bro he had loose gameplay
@@0PE. you're not wrong
I wanna see Lud play more StarCraft this is hilarious.
luved the "archon" mode with artosis, probably the best fun for both and most usage, too
“Greatest probe I’ve ever seen” lud - “Go little buddy go!”
RTS are definitely that kind of game with huge-ass skill gaps.
Hell, even between amateurish players; I remember playing AoE 2 with two friends, and me and one of the two had to always team up against the other AND create "honour rules" (basically, no early rush) because the third guy had a way better APM, probably thanks to piano.
We even all kinda acknowledged that he was the best by far, that I was decent enough at defense and resource gathering to keep up in these domains, and that my teammate really wasn't that great at either speed nor strategy, so even between three amateurs we all knew who would win against who in 1v1s before even clicking play.
Idk if it’s true but doesn’t actually have a lot of mechanics stuff also compared to AoE?
@@mareksicinski3726 From my own experience, Starcraft seems similar in complexity but faster in pace, so yeah.
Skillgaps would be even more pronounced.
A lot of players tend to think that honor rule will save you from apm player... but its the opposite , they will take 10 bases and run you over
@@Jaime_Protein_Cannister Meh, the intention was clear enough to make the games enjoyable, at least for me.
Then again, APM dude wasn't mean, just REALLY good, so he kinda just went soft early-game before we were ready to have an actual brawl.
"We are those people." -Artosis says as he loses his soul.
13:19
“Imma ignore Ludwig the whole game” 😂
I'm so happy to see Starcraft content on big TH-cam channels. Thank you Ludwig!
artosis is such a super chill and genuine guy though. really would appreciate more content with him ^-^
dont ever tune into his stream then LOL. i think hes genuin and generally nice but he rages *alot* and with great intensity, so probably not very chill, at least as long as starcraft is concerned.
Artosis has about 300 apm on average. 350 during peak combat. 220-260 during regular game play. He's an A+ to S- Player on Korean servers with an average of 2100-2200 MMR.
He is a professional caster and has played for 22 years. Very skilled and intelligent player, however very salty and rages a bit often.
Professional players have from 350 to 550 APM in game usually. 300 at a minimum. They usually have 2400 to 2800 MMR.
If anyone was wondering how close he was to actually pro.
bro its been like 8 years since ive played starcraft, the nostalgia that i got watching this.
Ludwig is literally me not having any idea whats going on
Never would I think Ludwig would try play Starcraft! Get him in BRONZE LEAGE HEROOOOSSSSS
Yo artosis is such a old school legend. Big ups for getting the real deal on your videos 👌👌👌
We need bros vs pros Dead by Daylight as Ludwig, Atrioc, Stanz, and Slime vs Otzdarva
That would be fucking pointless as dead by daylight is already designed to eb 1v4
“I think we have a fighting chance”
Eeeeeh
ludwig calling the zergling monkeys had me loling hard
Starcraft and Lud is like baking a bowling ball. I've said what I said.
For those kids who are probably my age(16) or younger, starcraft is essentially a real time strategy scifi game, my dad let me play this game when i was 10 i think
Didnt expect to see starcraft 1. This is sick af
Yeah, I was definitely expecting Starcraft 2
13:31
QT saying hello to check how fast they'd respond for her video.
Coming back to this vid after watching RT stream for a year is golden
Wow I totally understand what’s happening
Bros vs Pros is easily my favourite series on this channel.. Got me subbed to Atrioc and Stanz as well..
finally Cars 3 gets some recognition it deserves
Me knowing how much skill starcraft takes: “no”
I'm more of a StarCraft 2 guy myself, but I admire the skill that StarCraft 1 requires.
Knowing that Ludwig got absolutely deleted by Dream even with health cheats on, I don't think the odds are in his favor
oh shit its finally out! cant wait to hear slime's commentary! - Sundabar
Several minutes into the game, first teammate already dead.
Ludwig: "Wait, i need vespene gas?"
Wasn't Slime supposed to commentate this? Did he watch you gameplay and thought it wasn't worth it?
He unfortunately got caught up in some other engagement. He was supposed to jump in and try 4v1, but was busy when Ludwig called.
Lud should've called Mango. Mango used to play starcraft
Message at first minute : Lud doesn't know how to play at all? damn he dead. edit : that was very fun to watch. The last game probably was exhausting to play hehehe.
YES THEYRE BRINGING STARCRAFT BACK
This make me want to see three Starcraft casters vs one pro
I'd have thought lud wouldve played before they did bros v pros. they should've roped in mango as a reserve special guest lol
12:14 “idk what to tell you this is the greatest probe ive ever seen in my life”
“Go little buddy go”
Great vid, loving this series
Ohh surprised to see StarCraft 1, StarCraft 2 was the first game I fell in love with when I was 14
im so happy to see starcraft get some mainstream exposure
I did this experiment with my coworkers in sc2 I was diamond vs 3 golds/silver players. I crushed them all vs me at the same time for over a year.. I'll just say there is no way in hell they win vs artosis... PS: just got to game 2 ... jesus christ...
The difference in rate at which these two people are processing information is terrifying
Ludwig should totally do a bros vs pro in civ 6
I remember watching part of this on stream forever ago. I thought he decided not to post it but I’m so glad he did
Starcraft brood war is still a thing? I thought that game is dead. Damn this make me want to play that game again
it came out remastered a couple years ago, got ranked ladder and all that
Artosis and Tasteless are still casting Korean Brood War and it's absolutely amazing.
The Korean pro-scene is very much still alive. StarCraft ain't the mainstream juggernaut it was 10-20 years ago, but it's still got a playerbase as large as StarCraft 2
I was there. It's so awesome how this boosted Artosis' popularity. Thanks Ludwig
At the start of the video, that's the calmest I've ever seen chat in months.
Ludwig breathing some mainstream hype into Starcraft makes me so happy
i'd love to see more of this lol. sc2 3v3 ladder maybe?
I have no idea how to play starcraft but I've played somewhat similar games and it kept looking like Ludwig would group troops send them to attack something then group them again so they would stop and send them to attack the same thing
Was genuinely surprised to see that you had a video with a legend like Artosis. Much appreciated!
We need more of this type of challenges, like rocket league but lud has to be the one scoring, maybe only pistol valorant, vs infinite money, idk, it would defenetly make it interesting
The guys were great, i am impressed how well they managed to keep up, Ludwig was doing alright, i was afraid that Artosis will get mad at him, because normally i see him angry all the time, but he was probably having fun too : )
I would not mind to see more of this : D
If you enjoy playing starcraft, should try AOE2, 3 vs 1 against some of the pros (Viper, Hera, Lierry) would be p cool
Fun fact about star craft players as warm up they do is ajashdksljshrjdlaldj which was just me doing two lines of cocaine off a key board
Atrioc’s team idea reminded me of hand and brain chess which is my favorite variant. One person picks the piece, other player picks the square, surely nothing goes wrong from there
This is such an old vod
5:33
Just two command centers passing in the night
Everyone (with or without brood wars experience) can beat artosis in this 3 simple steps. 1) pick protoss; 2) build an arbiter and a bunch of dragoons; 3) fly your arbiter into RT base and recall your army. It is that simple!
p.s. RT apm compared to when he ladders looks like he is just playing casually
What's a starcraft?
If Artosis weren't able to communicate with Ludwig on the second match and it were up to him to figure out what to do with the units, the other two might have had a chance. He may have suicided most of the units until all their bases ran out of minerals.
Starcraft is the goat.
How the hell has Ludwig never played StarCraft or a similar game? Bloody brutal
Curse you Ludwig, you reignited my childhood passion for RTSGs
dude it hurt to watch you attack with the zealots and just stand there
Would love to see you guys try that in SC2!
i would love to see them fight lowko in starcraft 2
Super dope to see the StarCraft cross over! Should do some content with SCII :D
It's A LOT funnier when you understand everything
I wish they played more games like this, just random ones that you usually don’t see being played on the stream
You should do a “can 3 gamers beat 1 pro in apex legends” and do it where you, atrioc, and stanz are on a team and the pro no-fills, highest ranking team wins. Like so Ludwig might see this vvv. You could do this with thatpunchkidlive, zylbrad, trunoom, ottr, xkibitz, or others
the variety of ludwig content never cease to amaze me. props
Don't take this as an attack on artosis, he's fucking awesome and probably one of the most passionate people about starcraft and starcraft 2. But I wouldn't say he's a professional player, he's a professional caster (and although I have no idea what metric you would rank casters by, I'm sure that whatever you go with, he'll be in the top), he's still going to be a better player than 99% of anybody who touches this game, but there's a gigantic difference between top 1% and top 0.1% in these types of games.
he’s a former pro
he kinda was tho. he just wasnt paid for it because back then in the early 2000 there was no money in esport. he was not known internationally but he was a big name in the us.
I would appreciate you making part two
Wow Artosis really needed to tell Ludwig how to attack move.
The crossover I didn't know I needed
Starcraft? You mean Lego Battles?
I watched the entire thing in 0.75x thinking it was normal
I like how they recognized the only way to win was a worker rush
I need to see this shit again. Lud just yeeting around with a probe had me on the floor laughing
I'm actually in tears from the drone gameplay 🤣🤣🤣🤣
you should do this w/ a starcraft 2 pro, try to reach out to heromarine, lambo, clem, reynor, serral, etc. would be amazing.
This makes me realize how much I suck, I’m not Ludwig level suck at star craft but I am not the kinda guy who puts everything down as fast as possible.
Starcraft 2 next?
Artosis' APM is higher than all three of theirs combined lol. One of the OG Starcraft greats, for sure.
I haven't fully watched this but I knew it was over when I heard the pro's keyboard
I would pay an unreasonably large amount of money to watch 3 gamers vs. Serral on SC2. SC1 is a great game, but it's so hard to get into as a newbie.
I’m slowly running through my entire supply of content on YT, I need to slow down so I can replenish it
OMG LUDWIG DOES A STARCRAFT COLLAB! BEST DAY OF MY LIFE haha