I decided to get the X2 for my bedroom to play guitar in so I wouldn’t have to move all heavy stacks of amps and cabs into my room. It’s a very great budget amp and it’s super nice since I can get most of the effects i currently use on my main pedal board on it
I sold my EVH 5150iii to get a Peavey Invective 120, After that I had some extra money and bought the 6505 120 those two amplifiers are AMAZING!! Quality is great very well made on both amplifiers, I’ve gigged with them both and they’ve held up nicely. I’ve owned a Mesa dual rec, EVH 5150iii and I can hands down say that to my ears Peavey has won me over. I grew up playing through my dad’s Peavey triple x. Those other brands are great products don’t get me wrong I’m not knocking them at all.. but for me personally the Peavey Invective 120 and 6505 120 have that perfect balance of chunky saturated gain tones with balls to them you can feel it in your chest when you hit a power chord on those amplifiers. I’ve dropped foot switches and everything has held up to it still working nicely. My experience with Peavey has been great one time I had a tube break during shipping from the place I bought the amp from and Peavey paid for me a new tube to replace it. Customer service has always been great, the guy working the customer service has always been friendly no complaints. Some people may be bitter over Peavey’s past choices, as for me I only have good things to say.
The USA-made Peavey Bandits from the 1990's are more bang for the buck (Blue stripe, silver stripe and / or red stripe). They have 12 inch speakers and weigh over 20 kilos, built like a tank!
I've found that usually when a amp tries to do Everything it ends up doing most everything but doing it poorly and sounding like sheite. I'd rather have a " one trick pony" amp and run my pedals thru it. Good rundown. Thank You.
Yes! That's exactly what I experienced with my boss katana mk2 100w which I sold after a few days with it... Suddenly my old DIY Champ(without any eq) sounded better than this new beast loaded with effects and presets.. Also it feels artificial to play, quite like computer plugins. I'd better have 1 great tone than 100 average ones. And the amount of tweaks on modeling apms is overwhelming. I would doubt if I could set up a better tone instead of playing. In this regard less is more, at least for me
I agree wholeheartedly with one exception: Fenders GTX 50. The tones that I get out of that amp are incredible and the more the speaker breaks in the better it sounds. The app to dial in tones is super user friendly and the tones are awesome. I've tried other modeling amps but again, they sound like crap because they're trying to do so much. Fender did their homework before they put out their amps.
Had that same buzzing "resonance" with my old Vypyr15w. This happened a few months before the electronics went wonky. Peavey was a once upon a time reliable touring amp company. Now? A pale shadow.
Is there a specific year I should keep in mind when shipping for used peavy starters? I’m not a new musician but new to owning my own amp. I have a tight budget but I want to use a lot of wacky effects and I’d like the original tone to be as clear as possible. Voice, keyboard, and electric. Thank you to whoever takes the time to read this!!
I have a Vypyr VIP 2 I bought used, and it's a great amp. Definitely none of that buzzing. The great thing about it is it isn't obsolete. Has all the same amps and effects as the new X models, just without the extra bluetooth bells and whistles. Still sounds great. Seems like these modeling amps can only go so far. They can add more amp sounds and more effects, but the older ones are still perfectly serviceable and available on the used market for relatively cheap.
Hi Elmo thank you for all of your reviews. I was at a major music store today and tried out Katana, Catalyst and Vyper. I stumbled upon some sounds in the Vyper 2 that were absolutely massive and beautiful it was in the 6505 model with a little chorus it sounded like the lead break of La Villa Strangalato from Rush. I was looking for that rattling buzzy aftertone you experienced but did not experience that with the one I tried.. Feature wise the Katana won hands down and sounded good but nothing like the massive sound of that Vyper. And I love Line 6 but that Catalyst amp is dull and uninspiring to my ears ( and to the ears of the salespeople apparently judging from their grimace lol). Thank you again for your reviews.
I had the original Vyper 1 (15watts) and noticed a point of vibration as well. Finally, I took out the original speaker, screwed and glued a 1/4" plywood board inside the front cabinet wall and installed a 10" Klipsch 150-watt speaker inside. No more resonance and great sound.
I've had a Peavey Vypyr VIP 2 which I used for giggning (smaller venues, miked up with SM57s) and also (believe it or not) for some DIY recording (we recorded an EP during the 2020 lockdown and the Vypyr was the only thing available for me). It's got a lot of sounds and stuff, but after about three years all those digital knobs stopped working (I could only use them if I connected to a PC and modified the settings in the app) and also the headphone jack stopped working. That resonance was present, specially at higher volumes, and I believe it's because the cabinet itself is poorly built, the wood is too thin for such a loud speaker (mine being the 40w version). The 6505 and XXX simulators are the best sounding thing on these things, but the other models, you really got to fiddle with them to get some good tones (the Fender Twin is really good for cleans). I would get one again, but I am worried the same problems from the previous generation will transfer to the new one (such as the digital knobs ceasing to respond properly after a few years).
This amp is fine. Great for a beginner looking to build a tone with a wide range of options. It’s not a Bogner for sure but it is not a bad amplifier for the price by no means.
I saw on the interwebs someone said they had a rattle or buzz and it turned out there was a crystal packet thing used in shipping got stuck next to the speaker, remove that and all was fine, maybe that's the problem here ? I don't remember what that amp was
I was thinking about this over the Boss Katana mini and after your review you definitely like the Boss Katana mini I watched your review and you really liked so I'm going with the Katana.I got the Katana mini and it's awesome great sound very light weight and you can connect your phone or tablet with a cord and listen to music and the speaker really sounds good.
Peavey used to make the 5150 in the EVH days. When he blew Peavey off Peavey just rebranded the 5150 as the 6505. They're a great deal. On the other hand I have a VYPER VIP-1 that I bought new. It's crazy that I have to hunt around on TH-cam to figure out how to use it. I've had a recording studio for decades and this is one of the PITA$$ pieces of gear that I've had to sort out. I agree with you that it tries to do everything and it doesn't do anything well. I prefer the Monoprice (Stage Right) 15W Tube Amp with 1X12 Celestion speaker for just a bit more. I paid $200.00 for it on sale. (which is why I'm just starting to figure this POS thing out). I won't spend the money for a Mesa Boogie with a 1 X 10 Celestion (10/25W) for $2,100.00. They do kick @$$ though.
Boy those marketing people that wrote that start are boring huh. 😂 I actually played a 60 watt viper that had power tubes awhile back, a few years ago and it sounded ok. 🤘♥️ Katana is just hard to beat. I've been using a tube amp lately. It's a 60 watt 1 x 12 that can be switched to a 20 watts with 6v6 power tubes. I really like it cranked, but the Katana is to me as good believe it or not. As you stated it's all subjective. I feel like I have a pretty good ear since I've been playing for so long and learned totally by ear. Good video sir. Hope all is well my friend ♥️🤘♥️
Elmo.....it's hard not to like any amp with your outstanding playing going through it....wow, that being said I own an ADA Viper amp that would blow this and many amps away, no modeling involved, but many features, thanks much, Bruce
It's a real pity that the sounds of the latest amps of Peavey are not on par with the quality of their Revalver line of plugins, which are among the best I've had the chance to listen to.
Great video Elmo !!! So ... here is what they did right with this ..... the design/look of the amp itself ... they should have done this wayy back when they launched the gen one models. Hell ... they " Vypyr " name in itself I think was also a big marketing blunder by Peavey cause EVERYONE with the demo's of the amps asumed these where only high gain amps. BUT as those whom took the chance on a Gen 1 solid state or tube model found out they had a great emulation of amp models. Despite the flaws/issues in the Gen 1 models ... IF you could manage to get the Sanpera controllers with them .. they where great stand alone amps if you just wanted to plug in & throw a ok onboard effect on here & there. At the end of the day though .... these are just "re-boxed" VIP series amps of the Gen 2's .. ( which they made some improvements in but also some blunders as well ). I've owned a Gen 1 Vypyr 30 (solid state), Gen 1 Tube ( tube 60 with sanpera 2 controller - these where the best ones to get ) & a Gen 2 VIP 40 ( bass & acoustic amp elements brought to it + better usb dac). I never got a chance to own or check out the Gen 3 Vypyr Pro cause they killed it after 3+ years of launch/development delays that allowed competition to catch up with them. ( Gen 3 aka Vypyr Pro had the most potental as it was more brought to a guitar only focus, added better effects, amps, reverb & delay options + able to move the patch banks around / stack more then 3 effects or amps together at once AND brought a effects look into the mix !! BUT $600+ usa price point + competition killed it ). And Peavey being forced to move production to china + kill quality to compete is what has brought them to this "Vypyr X" product you reviewed here. Final thoughts on it all ..... Peavey ... ESPECIALLY with the Tube enhanced Vypyrs ( 12AX7 pre-amp/buffer + 2 or 4 6L6 power sectioned Tube 60 & 120 Head's/Combo's ) would have had the market long before Line 6, AxeFX, Kemper, Boss Katana & etc. A name change & a few tweaks like I mentioned above way back in the Gen 1 days would have cemented them MANY sales. In the end ... best thing peavey REALLY should have done with the line ... is do what is being shown by the Sparks & Sparks Mini amps.
I’ve got an original vypyr 30. I agree it’s really good for what it was. It had a lot of potential but a few major flaws. If they’d worked those out 10 years ago Peavey might be in a better place these days For a 12 year old modeling amp it makes some nice sounds. I don’t think it would be optimal for recording but definitely great for practice and rehearsal; fantastic beginner amp! Mine starts having problems when I get fancy with the foot switch, trying to use it for effects and amp switching; sometimes will freeze and the amp has to be turned off and on. Also, the knobs are very flimsy, and instead of making static when dirty they tend to not do anything at all. For $300 new, including the foot switch, it is amazing! Used they’re about $130 now. However, there are other options and I’d probably be more likely to get a single purpose amp than a Jack of all trades
Ughh!!! Modelling amps SUCK! I only play at home these days but I have absolutely no use for the damned things. Might be useful for home recording I guess but I have a pretty comprehensive pedal board and I can switch between fx on the fly. And what happens when the electronics go kaput (and they will)? Way cheaper to replace an fx pedal, with the added bonus that I can still use my amp. Note: I'm on a budget and I have an old Peavey Audition 25w USA-made amp that has 2 channels and a footswitch. Job done!
@@jonathanpeden9930 I think they put too many features in the amps. They need to narrow down to 3 amps, maybe 5 effects, and make the switching simple. Do these things really well and don’t charge $1000 like a Fender toneking. I actually like the idea of the toneking series, except I don’t trust them not to crap out after ten years. If solid state actually sounded like a tube I’d forget all about tubes. They’re getting pretty close now
Great video. I agree it's mostly subjective. I definitely could hear that resonance. Wouldn't be a deal breaker for me. I feel like the performance is on par with the price. The tones on the video sounded fine for the most part and the playing was excellent which is the most important thing. New and younger players are way too quick to blame the guitar, pickups, amp, etc... Great players like this guy will always sound pretty good on just about anything. Most folks wouldn't know good tone if it slapped them in the face because there ear isn't trained to know the difference. What sounds cool in your room by yourself doesn't always work in a band setting. You have to be able to adjust on the fly to different conditions. Older experienced players can dial in decent tones out of just about anything. I have the big 120 watt 6L6 tube version of this amp. Scooped it up for 125 dollars used. Crazy luck. It is a beast of an amp. I run it on a cheap 412 crate cab. I'm extremely happy with it. The cons are mainly 1. Learning how to operate and navigate all the options. 2. Most pre sets have crack head levels of gain so they aren't useable most of the time and noisy. And 3. You need the pedal to switch sounds unless you want to constantly push buttons on the amp. Lastly 4. It has a built in noise gate that sucks. You can't adjust it so you can't roll the knob down on the guitar to clean up your tone like on a non digital amp. However you can dial in great tones of your own, save the pre sets and your ready to rock. Btw my other rig on the other side of my room is a 6505+ half stack with Sheffield speakers. Sheffield speakers are the Peavey version of a vintage 30. Of course it sounds killer. I have expensive gear to compare it to. I'm about to pick up the baby version of this vypr for 50 bucks. Just something to lug around that's cheap, light weight and versatile. It checks all the boxes for me so I like these amps. I agree that the entry level smaller versions aren't going to be as good. That's why they are cheap. Learn to dial in what you have and learn to play vs thinking gear is holding you back. Jimmy Hendrix would sound killer on a squire and a pawn shop gorilla amp with six inch speaker. Maybe I will do an update about the small amp in a couple days. This video and channel is great. I enjoyed it. Keep rocking.
Well. I'll start by qualifying something in their script. I've got a LIne 6 Flextone I 300W head. That's from 2000, so almost a decade earlier, with tube emulation circuit, and it sounds phenomenal, imo. And is about as loud as standing on an airport runway.
I have a vypyr x2, only a week old as of July 10, 2022. Worked great. Bought a new sanpera 2 switcher. Plugged it in and the amp has no sound. Unplugged the sanpera and the amp still has no sound. The amp lights up, the pedal lights up, no sound. I did a factory reset after I unplugged the sanpera from the vypyr x2. Still no sound, at all. I checked my cable, it's fine. I tried to use my wireless with it, the wireless is fine. Just no sound no matter what I try.. what gives? I reached out to peavey. And haven't received a response.. pretty unhappy at the moment. I'd hate to have to return it. Killer sounding amp before this happened.
Another friend has an old Vyper on offer that needs servicing. I wonder if I should take him up on his offer just to open this Peavey up to see if I can get her to sing properly again. However, the constraint on time would probably won't allow me to work on it. Nevertheless, a great review. Your videos are always very great to watch.
Few internal tweaks , will get that hum sound . Some speaker baffles, replace the cheap speaker Wiring and cheap 1/4 and 1/8. Jacks . You can Also products made by monster cable . Filters Out any interference from receptacles, amps
Try playing with humbuckers instead of single coils, like it's designed for (at least the high gain settings), THEN make your review! Watch other reviews, and you'll see what I mean. It's highly rated by most others for a reason.
This amp has lots of gain on most amps, especially the Peavey models. Im pretty happy with it, but for those of us on a more musical gear budget, is this a good substitute for something like a JP Mesa Boogie if you're just looking for Uber gain?
Itsellä oli myös vypr x1. Ihan tykkäsin. Oli jees jynkytellä niskalaukaus tyyliin. Harmillisesti myin vyperin pois, kun luulin haluavani orange crush 20 vahvistimen...en halunnutkaan :D Onneksi aina on micro cube👍🏻
This review raised my curiosity. Elmo didn't go into much of a guitar solo with this demonstration. The angry bee sound must really upset a professional musician. Was this a problem only with this amp? The website showed that Peavey has lowered the price from $300 to $200. Given that guitar stuff was selling like hotcakes until recently due to Covid, this indicates a potential problem with all the amps of this model. This is particularly true in these inflationary times where prices go up and not down. Elmo said, "Angry bees with chainsaws" Wow! Looks like they tried to make a swiss army knife amp. Good thing I'm happy with my ubiquitous Japanese amp that Elmo also didn't like. Thanks for the very good review.
Thanks for the honesty in your reviews, it is very important for the community that they are not biased. I am not surprised that such kind of amps(not only from Peavey) find their way in the market. As a guitar teacher, you know that especially beginners buy their own equipment without consulting and they just throw money out of the window. These kind of amps can also be sold in guitar bundles, it would be easy to sell them to people that don't know much about equipment. What makes me sad, is because of shitty equipment(guitars also), many beginners are demotivated and stop playing after some weeks or months. Elmo, keep playing great, keep reviewing the way you do!
So many peavey amp owners have encountered a buzzy top end. It has led many to change tubes (from Sovtek to JJs) and/or change speakers. So many Peavey Classic 30 owners have swapped out the Blue Marvel speaker for a Weber Blue Dog, Eminence Wizard, Celestion Vintage 30. Peavey Valve King amps always sounded better with an Eminence Texas Heat or perhaps Swamp Thang. In the case of this amp, I would swap the speaker for a Texas Heat and I am sure it would take out the fizz
Thank you for the Nice démo of Peavey vypyr X1 thank's that you take yourself not seriously like peavey that your a great guitar player that are honest in opinion this is subjective like you said this is your opinion My opinion if you,re in metal that,s the amp i bought the peavey vypyr X1 and the acoustic sound is good and the bass sound good and Electric guitar is good Chear folk and i like m'y Peavey vypyr X1
@@MrPolevaulter It's not just Peavey. If you buy a processor based amp, it will probably cost you the price of a used amp for the repair or more. That includes Helix, Dl4's Any brand of amp. The messaage is buy new. Get the guarantee.
ive used a 30w vypyr for years. i kinda helps if you learn how to use it. you're allowed to cut that delay btw triple rec model...cut mids and you get a perfect silky , touch sensitive high gain lead. try using one of those compression boxes in front of a clean Vox or an overdrive, or a playing style. you can't just breeze through presets and get pissed at the amp for not knowing how to set up an amp...js ive tried almost every modeler and vypyrs are the most responsive and playable.
Hi Elmo! I own a few Peavey Transtube products, they sound incredible, but they are US made and not in combo configuration. I heard that buzzing, definitely not being QC’d for that, really sad, I would hope the direct to recording functions beat out the 8” speaker function. I would love to hear that side of the amp, but totally understand if you got rid of it,
Well Um….I think my Roland microcube kicks that things ass! Thanks for the review Elmo. I always enjoy hanging out with you watching your videos😎✌️🎸🎶👍👍
I have to be honest, may too honest with my judgement here but I have to speak the truth...... This does sound a bit better than the Marshall Code that you reviewed in the past.... 🤪 But too close to decide which one to buy.... 😂🤣😂 Can you please try the code once more, Thanks, you're a pal....🙃
I think you'll have to ship that out as soon as you can, EJ. Didn't like that at all. It's a shame really. I played a Peavey T-60 (I had the use of it for a couple of weeks from a mate) way back in the very early 80s. Really nice guitar. Thanks very much.
I’m gonna have to check out the patrion, you hit the nail on the head most of the time. A lot of these things are opinions and taste, but yours is highly educated opinion and neatly refined taste, so definitely someone I can listen to to before I make a shit purchase. Thank you
Sad to see the company having to focus on outsourced pC board amps to keep some of the market share. These next few years are going to kill alot of companies.
NEVER risk upgrades! So many people I know have nothing but problems because of updating everything and I use stuff for 20 years because I never update it 😐
I bought this Amp. The 2 amps I had before this one, only had a volume control. What is the pre-gain and post-gain for and how are those two controls used? Thanks
Elmo - I just love your videos and enjoy your playing a lot but this time there's something I don't fully agree on - how can you test a modelling amp that's clearly targeted towards heavy metal loving users and use the SSS guitar on heavy presets - and than complain the sound is not clear. I've seen couple of tests of this amp and the testing guys were all ready for the filthy sounds which for them were quite satisfying. I get it - it doesn't do all as it sais and it's not the best in the lighter music department - but some of the classic Peavey sounds were there and were spot on. Maybe the amp is broken, maybe there is some buzz but from my perspective this is not that bad of an amp if you expect it to deliver some sounds from the heavy side. I agree that there are many better amps that overall produce better pack of sounds but I guess people buiyng Peavey amp more or less know what to expect from this line of products. But being a valve amps using guy I guess you have completely different perspective on the sound that you expect and I respect that. From my perspective however - using mostly modelling amps for heavy sound - this sound is quite acceptable. Cheers!
I'm playing for years and years and I typically only play tube amps I don't like modeling amps much although the the Vox valvetronix single Tube It was kind of awful it's kind of convenient just for a quick you just do me like just a quick Buck around. I always used to bands predominately for everything. Surprised when I picked up and play this hand because it does have way more power than 820 w I've ever had not had a bunch of old peevish it amps. Is that play bass to and you know it I was actually surprised this thing is better sounding than some of the other people are seeing on this thread and the guy who did this video he just kind of bending and agreeing with people on the thread on the comments section. But I don't agree I was actually surprised I'm not saying the same to deepest a the world but the amount of power that it has surprised me I was actually trying to figure out if there was a single tube for a Mazda in this thing. And the effects natone are better than any of the other multi-effects amps of played before even better than developer Tronics or the Marshall valvestate or any of those hybrid amps. I'm pushing my son to get a really good too bad I still think this was a great early and for him to seize a good first a better than the first amp if you had to suffer with a transistor a nap that has effects this one actually does pretty damn well. The simple fact or the Walmart fact are not going to be anything anyone's looking for. And Distortion tones are the best in the world but same time the pretty fucking good for what you're paying for handles and it does some things just like a real tube amplifier and I was kind of surprised. I played a shitload of old crappy gear and I've also played a lot of tube amps in my life. This thing definitely has a high game handling like a mosfet or tube that is attractive. I typically only like the high-voltage sound. I'm 43 and I've been playing since I was 15 and I have tried all sorts of gear out there starting off mystery regular Metalhead stuff going through all sorts of metal gear into a guitar synthesizers and also it's a various digital and Roland gear. Back to all sorts of classic and Boutique Old amps and old rare guitar pedals and rare synthesizers through old 60s guitar amplifiers able to do things that most guitars these days don't even know about experimental sounds and crazy warped out stuff that you can get old tube amps to do the new tube amps just don't do shit is most of the quote tube amps you people are playing not real tube amps with their solid state rectifier chips anyways all these supposed to have some people are going in buying at Guitar Center for the past 20 years 30 years had a few tubes but aren't that great and sound quality anybody can see she looked something like Harmony central.com. trying to figure out why your buddies rating brand new tube amps are supposed to be so great with such low numbers yeah old generic 1960s guitar amps agent piece of shit I getting tens in sound quality. I've played some of them so I know that that is not wrong. Stop my number one amplifiers I looking for amps with rectifier tubes no circuit boards as of this point I play with mostly classic rock and experimental psychedelic type sounds cast for Modern amp to practice with is just a $200 for $300 a things actually fantastic you looking for just a practice a something you just want your kids to have that can sound like rock metal that kind of thing it's a great amp that kind of thing. Personally I'd rather go with an old rare app off of eBay if it has the right components inside of it. The last one I got is a Harmony h303a aercap most people don't know about yeah it was made in 62 in America made America to Jensen speaker made in Chicago why live by. And the thing gets tense of sound quality from most people and you can completely freak it out create crazy sagging effects Wicked buzzsaw affects all sorts of things you can never get these modern aims to do. I stopped off and I picked up a the guitar shop an old analog distortion pedal on the earliest boss pedals the most suck and are not analog they are cosm which means fake trash. This one was a turbo overdrive sounds like a tube screamer those more balls I'll sit there and play bunch really distorted classic rock and old metal. And everyone at their shop agreed this 62 app the generic brand are not sounded way better than any of these modern tube amps their solid-state rectifier trash. So you see I want a real tube amp! Be at your probably going to get an app that's not a real tube amp even Marshalls sells the garbage nowadays. Good go with Mesa Boogie honestly the best tube rectifier amps truly are the old ones as you can walk the sound and get sounds out of your amplifier but you cannot get nowadays these things I'll have circuit boards they're all trash.
Only two of my guitars have single coils in the bridge,....also all of my guitar amps are all tube, except for my 2 practice amps,.....they are the VYPYR 75 and the VIP 2 all in one amp,.....they are fine for practice,.....but I can see why anyone using a single coil guitar would say they sound like crap.
I have your vip1. Performs better than the real 5150. Vip produces that EVH feel at moderate volumes, whereas the 5150 has to be cranked up to produce anything similar.
Well, my previous generation version of the Peavey VYPYR VIP3 has no problems at all, is extremely easy to adjust/use and sounds wonderfully lovely too. Glad I grabbed that one.
Exactly I don’t know what these people are talking about! They are good amps. There’s a couple tricks to make them sound better!! One I have the back is completely open, so I enclosed it! Now it thunders. The Vypyr 2 I have I plugged that hole they put in the back. It sounds better. Since the sound is forced through the front and not lost through the back!
Speaking of cabs, I do believe that these VIP cabinets may be rather fragile and are prone to either obvious or invisible shipping damage by rough or careless handling. If I remember correctly, my VIP3 that I picked up myself from the store had almost no shipping protection in the box, if any, which gave me the impression that it was "one tough beast" but alas, I was likely wrong since even the plastic corner guards are very flimsy and can easily crack even though I handle all of my stuff as if it was made of eggs. Oh well...$300, what can you say?@@jeremyswalley8625
Listening on headphones, I like all the tones you're getting here. I loved my Vypyr VIP1 but it started emitting a constant high pitched tone so is now unusable. I just ordered a Vypyr X1... hopefully it won't have problems.
@@alexdenton6586 It's funny.. I haven't compared them side by side yet... but I have a feeling it's the exact same amp with new cooler housing lol. However, they both sound great to me. And, so far, no trouble with the X1 🤞
I think Peavey needs new management. I wonder if it’s salvageable at this point. It would be really cool if they would start focusing on American made simple high quality music tools instead of trying to be the cheap everything to everyone
Wow...the brands really are standardising the 'awful' sound lately with these modelling amps. I wonder if eventually guitarists will lower their expectations of sound quality?
I was talked into buying a valve Peavey 20 years ago when the company was family owned and managed. it was heavy and turned hot within 15 minutes of moderate use. Can't say anything about solid state Peavey but don't think I am interested after seeing this video.
Old Peaveys are hard to beat....the newer ones, is another story. I've got an old 5150, and it's incredible. I've got an old Renown, its a war horse, heck I've even got a blue stripe Bandit that I use. Granted none of the smaller ones are a Fender Tweed, but they're good. When the plant in Mississippi changed ownership the quality went down the "tube". Nobody can't doubt the 5150's and the sound and power.....but the new ones, I'll pass. I agree it's likely the 18" speaker causing some of the issues with vibrations, but the sound quality? That falls on piss poor electronics.
When I ask point-blank the difference between the X series and the outgoing VIP series TONE-wise (not looks) as the amp seems a literal copy from the old version with the addition of bluetooth. Each time I ask this, Peavey removes my comment on their channel. Every time.
There are a bunch of demos where a reviewer says "I don't like this" and I think "it's not that bad," but here... Man, that resonance is unforgivable. The original Vypyr 15 did the same thing but fortunately it was the chintzy plastic "batwing" fascia on the front that was easily removed. This is just... bad. And doesn't sound good either. The Fender Mustang LT25 kicks this thing's butt all day long; the Princeton, Hiwatt, and Supersonic sounds are so good on that thing it's unbelievable.
I've heard a guy comparing X2 and X3. X2 sounded for him like X1 for you with bees and chains as you said. ;-) But X3 was completely different, definitely better.
CONGRATS ELMO !! YOU JUST SET THE RECORD FOR MOST BARS EVER PLAYED ON A PEAVEY VYPER...VIPYER? WHATEVER THE F IT IS. The resonance was loud from jump and overwhelming to my ears, not the transgender criminals they once were eh....get it... nevermind. Could tell you wanted to like it, I think we all miss Peavey. They're the Gibson of amplifiers lmfao. I haven't heard anything to make me run n sell my Nextone stage. Peavey should hire you dude, turn them slackers around. I'm gonna join your patreon cause of your authenticity.
I have the original 15W Vypyr that I got brand new in 2010 and it’s still AMAZING, 14 and a half years later.
I decided to get the X2 for my bedroom to play guitar in so I wouldn’t have to move all heavy stacks of amps and cabs into my room. It’s a very great budget amp and it’s super nice since I can get most of the effects i currently use on my main pedal board on it
yeah I love mine too. They're great. The cleans are smooth too
I sold my EVH 5150iii to get a Peavey Invective 120, After that I had some extra money and bought the 6505 120 those two amplifiers are AMAZING!! Quality is great very well made on both amplifiers, I’ve gigged with them both and they’ve held up nicely. I’ve owned a Mesa dual rec, EVH 5150iii and I can hands down say that to my ears Peavey has won me over. I grew up playing through my dad’s Peavey triple x. Those other brands are great products don’t get me wrong I’m not knocking them at all.. but for me personally the Peavey Invective 120 and 6505 120 have that perfect balance of chunky saturated gain tones with balls to them you can feel it in your chest when you hit a power chord on those amplifiers. I’ve dropped foot switches and everything has held up to it still working nicely. My experience with Peavey has been great one time I had a tube break during shipping from the place I bought the amp from and Peavey paid for me a new tube to replace it. Customer service has always been great, the guy working the customer service has always been friendly no complaints. Some people may be bitter over Peavey’s past choices, as for me I only have good things to say.
The vypyr x3 is the way to go if you consider this amp.
I recently got the x3 and I'm very happy with it so far.
How do you change the delay time on the x 3? I hope there is an option besides that tap tempo button.
The USA-made Peavey Bandits from the 1990's are more bang for the buck (Blue stripe, silver stripe and / or red stripe). They have 12 inch speakers and weigh over 20 kilos, built like a tank!
I toured with one of those for almost a decade. Giving sound men fits before it became standard to run guitars through the mains, lol.
In fact, I'm pretty sure I ran through that to record our demo, that Mercury/Polygram offered to sign.
I've found that usually when a amp tries to do Everything it ends up doing most everything but doing it poorly and sounding like sheite.
I'd rather have a " one trick pony" amp and run my pedals thru it.
Good rundown. Thank You.
Yes! That's exactly what I experienced with my boss katana mk2 100w which I sold after a few days with it... Suddenly my old DIY Champ(without any eq) sounded better than this new beast loaded with effects and presets.. Also it feels artificial to play, quite like computer plugins. I'd better have 1 great tone than 100 average ones. And the amount of tweaks on modeling apms is overwhelming. I would doubt if I could set up a better tone instead of playing. In this regard less is more, at least for me
I agree wholeheartedly with one exception: Fenders GTX 50. The tones that I get out of that amp are incredible and the more the speaker breaks in the better it sounds. The app to dial in tones is super user friendly and the tones are awesome. I've tried other modeling amps but again, they sound like crap because they're trying to do so much. Fender did their homework before they put out their amps.
@@eaqwallbender8269 BOSS is only good for tuners
Had that same buzzing "resonance" with my old Vypyr15w. This happened a few months before the electronics went wonky. Peavey was a once upon a time reliable touring amp company. Now? A pale shadow.
Appreciate your advice. Makes me feel better because I almost bought one and changed my mind at last minute 👍👍
"Chai-na virus".
Is there a specific year I should keep in mind when shipping for used peavy starters? I’m not a new musician but new to owning my own amp. I have a tight budget but I want to use a lot of wacky effects and I’d like the original tone to be as clear as possible. Voice, keyboard, and electric. Thank you to whoever takes the time to read this!!
I have a Vypyr VIP 2 I bought used, and it's a great amp. Definitely none of that buzzing. The great thing about it is it isn't obsolete. Has all the same amps and effects as the new X models, just without the extra bluetooth bells and whistles. Still sounds great.
Seems like these modeling amps can only go so far. They can add more amp sounds and more effects, but the older ones are still perfectly serviceable and available on the used market for relatively cheap.
May I ask, do you have to adjust delay times with the tap tempo button?
@@automatoncollectives7237 There's a delay knob on the amp.
Hi Elmo thank you for all of your reviews. I was at a major music store today and tried out Katana, Catalyst and Vyper. I stumbled upon some sounds in the Vyper 2 that were absolutely massive and beautiful it was in the 6505 model with a little chorus it sounded like the lead break of La Villa Strangalato from Rush. I was looking for that rattling buzzy aftertone you experienced but did not experience that with the one I tried.. Feature wise the Katana won hands down and sounded good but nothing like the massive sound of that Vyper. And I love Line 6 but that Catalyst amp is dull and uninspiring to my ears ( and to the ears of the salespeople apparently judging from their grimace lol). Thank you again for your reviews.
Cheers!
I had the original Vyper 1 (15watts) and noticed a point of vibration as well. Finally, I took out the original speaker, screwed and glued a 1/4" plywood board inside the front cabinet wall and installed a 10" Klipsch 150-watt speaker inside. No more resonance and great sound.
Tried this out in my local music store. The 20 watt was not the best but th 40 and 100 watt ones kicked serious ass!! No lie
I've had a Peavey Vypyr VIP 2 which I used for giggning (smaller venues, miked up with SM57s) and also (believe it or not) for some DIY recording (we recorded an EP during the 2020 lockdown and the Vypyr was the only thing available for me). It's got a lot of sounds and stuff, but after about three years all those digital knobs stopped working (I could only use them if I connected to a PC and modified the settings in the app) and also the headphone jack stopped working. That resonance was present, specially at higher volumes, and I believe it's because the cabinet itself is poorly built, the wood is too thin for such a loud speaker (mine being the 40w version). The 6505 and XXX simulators are the best sounding thing on these things, but the other models, you really got to fiddle with them to get some good tones (the Fender Twin is really good for cleans). I would get one again, but I am worried the same problems from the previous generation will transfer to the new one (such as the digital knobs ceasing to respond properly after a few years).
I have two Peavey Vypyrs they are great sounding amps that won’t break the bank !!
This amp is fine. Great for a beginner looking to build a tone with a wide range of options. It’s not a Bogner for sure but it is not a bad amplifier for the price by no means.
I saw on the interwebs someone said they had a rattle or buzz and it turned out there was a crystal packet thing used in shipping got stuck next to the speaker, remove that and all was fine, maybe that's the problem here ?
I don't remember what that amp was
I really like your reviews and your honest approach reviewing gear and instruments. Thanks!
Cheers!
I was thinking about this over the Boss Katana mini and after your review you definitely like the Boss Katana mini I watched your review and you really liked so I'm going with the Katana.I got the Katana mini and it's awesome great sound very light weight and you can connect your phone or tablet with a cord and listen to music and the speaker really sounds good.
This guy is definitely a Van Halen fan😂 sounds good!
I have to say there were many great sounding tones .my honest opinion it sounded bad ass on the dirty channels
Peavey used to make the 5150 in the EVH days. When he blew Peavey off Peavey just rebranded the 5150 as the 6505. They're a great deal. On the other hand I have a VYPER VIP-1 that I bought new. It's crazy that I have to hunt around on TH-cam to figure out how to use it. I've had a recording studio for decades and this is one of the PITA$$ pieces of gear that I've had to sort out. I agree with you that it tries to do everything and it doesn't do anything well. I prefer the Monoprice (Stage Right) 15W Tube Amp with 1X12 Celestion speaker for just a bit more. I paid $200.00 for it on sale. (which is why I'm just starting to figure this POS thing out). I won't spend the money for a Mesa Boogie with a 1 X 10 Celestion (10/25W) for $2,100.00. They do kick @$$ though.
I don't know why they skip the presence knob on a modeling amp. It would help to tame up the high-end A LOT...
Boy those marketing people that wrote that start are boring huh. 😂
I actually played a 60 watt viper that had power tubes awhile back, a few years ago and it sounded ok. 🤘♥️
Katana is just hard to beat. I've been using a tube amp lately. It's a 60 watt 1 x 12 that can be switched to a 20 watts with 6v6 power tubes. I really like it cranked, but the Katana is to me as good believe it or not. As you stated it's all subjective. I feel like I have a pretty good ear since I've been playing for so long and learned totally by ear.
Good video sir. Hope all is well my friend ♥️🤘♥️
Cheers! All's well now. Been a tough spring though. Hope you're doing well too.
I like Peavey's overall. Their practice amps are somehow _manufactured_ in China, but still _made_ in the USA. They're very tight on QC.
Elmo.....it's hard not to like any amp with your outstanding playing going through it....wow, that being said I own an ADA Viper amp that would blow this and many amps away, no modeling involved, but many features, thanks much, Bruce
It's a real pity that the sounds of the latest amps of Peavey are not on par with the quality of their Revalver line of plugins, which are among the best I've had the chance to listen to.
Great video Elmo !!!
So ... here is what they did right with this ..... the design/look of the amp itself ... they should have done this wayy back when they launched the gen one models. Hell ... they " Vypyr " name in itself I think was also a big marketing blunder by Peavey cause EVERYONE with the demo's of the amps asumed these where only high gain amps. BUT as those whom took the chance on a Gen 1 solid state or tube model found out they had a great emulation of amp models. Despite the flaws/issues in the Gen 1 models ... IF you could manage to get the Sanpera controllers with them .. they where great stand alone amps if you just wanted to plug in & throw a ok onboard effect on here & there.
At the end of the day though .... these are just "re-boxed" VIP series amps of the Gen 2's .. ( which they made some improvements in but also some blunders as well ). I've owned a Gen 1 Vypyr 30 (solid state), Gen 1 Tube ( tube 60 with sanpera 2 controller - these where the best ones to get ) & a Gen 2 VIP 40 ( bass & acoustic amp elements brought to it + better usb dac). I never got a chance to own or check out the Gen 3 Vypyr Pro cause they killed it after 3+ years of launch/development delays that allowed competition to catch up with them. ( Gen 3 aka Vypyr Pro had the most potental as it was more brought to a guitar only focus, added better effects, amps, reverb & delay options + able to move the patch banks around / stack more then 3 effects or amps together at once AND brought a effects look into the mix !! BUT $600+ usa price point + competition killed it ). And Peavey being forced to move production to china + kill quality to compete is what has brought them to this "Vypyr X" product you reviewed here.
Final thoughts on it all ..... Peavey ... ESPECIALLY with the Tube enhanced Vypyrs ( 12AX7 pre-amp/buffer + 2 or 4 6L6 power sectioned Tube 60 & 120 Head's/Combo's ) would have had the market long before Line 6, AxeFX, Kemper, Boss Katana & etc. A name change & a few tweaks like I mentioned above way back in the Gen 1 days would have cemented them MANY sales. In the end ... best thing peavey REALLY should have done with the line ... is do what is being shown by the Sparks & Sparks Mini amps.
I’ve got an original vypyr 30. I agree it’s really good for what it was. It had a lot of potential but a few major flaws. If they’d worked those out 10 years ago Peavey might be in a better place these days
For a 12 year old modeling amp it makes some nice sounds. I don’t think it would be optimal for recording but definitely great for practice and rehearsal; fantastic beginner amp!
Mine starts having problems when I get fancy with the foot switch, trying to use it for effects and amp switching; sometimes will freeze and the amp has to be turned off and on. Also, the knobs are very flimsy, and instead of making static when dirty they tend to not do anything at all.
For $300 new, including the foot switch, it is amazing! Used they’re about $130 now. However, there are other options and I’d probably be more likely to get a single purpose amp than a Jack of all trades
Ughh!!! Modelling amps SUCK! I only play at home these days but I have absolutely no use for the damned things. Might be useful for home recording I guess but I have a pretty comprehensive pedal board and I can switch between fx on the fly. And what happens when the electronics go kaput (and they will)? Way cheaper to replace an fx pedal, with the added bonus that I can still use my amp. Note: I'm on a budget and I have an old Peavey Audition 25w USA-made amp that has 2 channels and a footswitch. Job done!
@@jonathanpeden9930 I think they put too many features in the amps. They need to narrow down to 3 amps, maybe 5 effects, and make the switching simple. Do these things really well and don’t charge $1000 like a Fender toneking.
I actually like the idea of the toneking series, except I don’t trust them not to crap out after ten years. If solid state actually sounded like a tube I’d forget all about tubes. They’re getting pretty close now
@@honkytonkinson9787 You got that right brother! Peace.
Great video. I agree it's mostly subjective. I definitely could hear that resonance. Wouldn't be a deal breaker for me. I feel like the performance is on par with the price. The tones on the video sounded fine for the most part and the playing was excellent which is the most important thing. New and younger players are way too quick to blame the guitar, pickups, amp, etc... Great players like this guy will always sound pretty good on just about anything. Most folks wouldn't know good tone if it slapped them in the face because there ear isn't trained to know the difference. What sounds cool in your room by yourself doesn't always work in a band setting. You have to be able to adjust on the fly to different conditions. Older experienced players can dial in decent tones out of just about anything. I have the big 120 watt 6L6 tube version of this amp. Scooped it up for 125 dollars used. Crazy luck. It is a beast of an amp. I run it on a cheap 412 crate cab. I'm extremely happy with it. The cons are mainly 1. Learning how to operate and navigate all the options. 2. Most pre sets have crack head levels of gain so they aren't useable most of the time and noisy. And 3. You need the pedal to switch sounds unless you want to constantly push buttons on the amp. Lastly 4. It has a built in noise gate that sucks. You can't adjust it so you can't roll the knob down on the guitar to clean up your tone like on a non digital amp. However you can dial in great tones of your own, save the pre sets and your ready to rock. Btw my other rig on the other side of my room is a 6505+ half stack with Sheffield speakers. Sheffield speakers are the Peavey version of a vintage 30. Of course it sounds killer. I have expensive gear to compare it to. I'm about to pick up the baby version of this vypr for 50 bucks. Just something to lug around that's cheap, light weight and versatile. It checks all the boxes for me so I like these amps. I agree that the entry level smaller versions aren't going to be as good. That's why they are cheap. Learn to dial in what you have and learn to play vs thinking gear is holding you back. Jimmy Hendrix would sound killer on a squire and a pawn shop gorilla amp with six inch speaker. Maybe I will do an update about the small amp in a couple days. This video and channel is great. I enjoyed it. Keep rocking.
Cheers!
Well. I'll start by qualifying something in their script. I've got a LIne 6 Flextone I 300W head. That's from 2000, so almost a decade earlier, with tube emulation circuit, and it sounds phenomenal, imo. And is about as loud as standing on an airport runway.
I have a vypyr x2, only a week old as of July 10, 2022. Worked great. Bought a new sanpera 2 switcher. Plugged it in and the amp has no sound. Unplugged the sanpera and the amp still has no sound. The amp lights up, the pedal lights up, no sound. I did a factory reset after I unplugged the sanpera from the vypyr x2. Still no sound, at all. I checked my cable, it's fine. I tried to use my wireless with it, the wireless is fine. Just no sound no matter what I try.. what gives? I reached out to peavey. And haven't received a response.. pretty unhappy at the moment. I'd hate to have to return it. Killer sounding amp before this happened.
Another friend has an old Vyper on offer that needs servicing.
I wonder if I should take him up on his offer just to open this Peavey up to see if I can get her to sing properly again. However, the constraint on time would probably won't allow me to work on it.
Nevertheless, a great review.
Your videos are always very great to watch.
Glad you like them :)
Few internal tweaks , will get that hum sound .
Some speaker baffles, replace the cheap speaker
Wiring and cheap 1/4 and 1/8. Jacks . You can
Also products made by monster cable . Filters
Out any interference from receptacles, amps
OUCH What a Blender lol. Looking forward to the next one, im looking for another amp. Thanks as always Elmo.
I had a Peavy bandit 65 tube amp had a twelve in" celestion speaker in it. It jammed 💯❤️💪🎵🎸🎶
If you are looking for that perfect "angry bee with a chainsaw" tone you are set.
Haha :D
Seems like that’s what all modern amp modelers are looking for
When was young Playing yngwie Malmsteen on m'y boss DS1 pédal to max really buzzing like bee !
Try playing with humbuckers instead of single coils, like it's designed for (at least the high gain settings), THEN make your review! Watch other reviews, and you'll see what I mean. It's highly rated by most others for a reason.
All I hear is that bzzbzzbzz 🤕🤕🤕
This amp has lots of gain on most amps, especially the Peavey models.
Im pretty happy with it, but for those of us on a more musical gear budget, is this a good substitute for something like a JP Mesa Boogie if you're just looking for Uber gain?
I don't know tbh.
Itsellä oli myös vypr x1. Ihan tykkäsin. Oli jees jynkytellä niskalaukaus tyyliin. Harmillisesti myin vyperin pois, kun luulin haluavani orange crush 20 vahvistimen...en halunnutkaan :D
Onneksi aina on micro cube👍🏻
This review raised my curiosity. Elmo didn't go into much of a guitar solo with this demonstration. The angry bee sound must really upset a professional musician. Was this a problem only with this amp? The website showed that Peavey has lowered the price from $300 to $200. Given that guitar stuff was selling like hotcakes until recently due to Covid, this indicates a potential problem with all the amps of this model. This is particularly true in these inflationary times where prices go up and not down.
Elmo said, "Angry bees with chainsaws" Wow! Looks like they tried to make a swiss army knife amp. Good thing I'm happy with my ubiquitous Japanese amp that Elmo also didn't like. Thanks for the very good review.
Yeah, this didn't inspire me to play. I just wanted to throw it out the window.
Thanks for the honesty in your reviews, it is very important for the community that they are not biased.
I am not surprised that such kind of amps(not only from Peavey) find their way in the market. As a guitar teacher, you know that especially beginners buy their own equipment without consulting and they just throw money out of the window. These kind of amps can also be sold in guitar bundles, it would be easy to sell them to people that don't know much about equipment.
What makes me sad, is because of shitty equipment(guitars also), many beginners are demotivated and stop playing after some weeks or months.
Elmo, keep playing great, keep reviewing the way you do!
Cheers!
So many peavey amp owners have encountered a buzzy top end. It has led many to change tubes (from Sovtek to JJs) and/or change speakers. So many Peavey Classic 30 owners have swapped out the Blue Marvel speaker for a Weber Blue Dog, Eminence Wizard, Celestion Vintage 30. Peavey Valve King amps always sounded better with an Eminence Texas Heat or perhaps Swamp Thang.
In the case of this amp, I would swap the speaker for a Texas Heat and I am sure it would take out the fizz
"200 Euros that you can save by buying something else." Thanks for your honest opinion! I once almost bought one and now I'm happy I didn't!
Yeah, I wouldn't go near this thing.
Bees with chainsaws...That sounds like a fair assessment. Lol!
Great review, I think I'll order a dozen of them 💩
:D
Mine does not rattle, and I think it sounds great.
Perfect for Burzum cover band :D
:D
Hi..E, I see your up to it again.. some amps just need to be told what you think of them..
Does the x2 even have updates? I haven’t found anything to do with the x series on the software page.
Thank you for the Nice démo of Peavey vypyr X1 thank's that you take yourself not seriously like peavey that your a great guitar player that are honest in opinion this is subjective like you said this is your opinion
My opinion if you,re in metal that,s the amp i
bought the peavey vypyr X1 and the acoustic sound is good and the bass sound good and Electric guitar is good
Chear folk and i like m'y Peavey vypyr X1
I work at a service shop in St. Louis. Peavey takes your message and then never calls back. zero support if the thing breaks.
That's not very nice of them.
@@MrPolevaulter It's not just Peavey. If you buy a processor based amp, it will probably cost you the price of a used amp for the repair or more. That includes Helix, Dl4's Any brand of amp. The messaage is buy new. Get the guarantee.
ive used a 30w vypyr for years. i kinda helps if you learn how to use it. you're allowed to cut that delay btw triple rec model...cut mids and you get a perfect silky , touch sensitive high gain lead. try using one of those compression boxes in front of a clean Vox or an overdrive, or a playing style. you can't just breeze through presets and get pissed at the amp for not knowing how to set up an amp...js
ive tried almost every modeler and vypyrs are the most responsive and playable.
Hi Elmo! I own a few Peavey Transtube products, they sound incredible, but they are US made and not in combo configuration. I heard that buzzing, definitely not being QC’d for that, really sad, I would hope the direct to recording functions beat out the 8” speaker function. I would love to hear that side of the amp, but totally understand if you got rid of it,
I did. Some guy got it real cheap :)
Well Um….I think my Roland microcube kicks that things ass! Thanks for the review Elmo. I always enjoy hanging out with you watching your videos😎✌️🎸🎶👍👍
Cheers! Yeah, the Micro Cube definitely beats this.
Angry bees with chainsaws, I agree.
I have to be honest, may too honest with my judgement here but I have to speak the truth...... This does sound a bit better than the Marshall Code that you reviewed in the past.... 🤪 But too close to decide which one to buy.... 😂🤣😂 Can you please try the code once more, Thanks, you're a pal....🙃
Haha! Maybe A/B them 🤣
@@MrPolevaulter But not at the same time, I do not want you to go mad 🤕 with excitement.... 😁
@@MichaelChapman123 🤣🤣🤣
Wonder why it’s buzzing (has pre gain and bass on max) ;-;
I think you'll have to ship that out as soon as you can, EJ. Didn't like that at all. It's a shame really. I played a Peavey T-60 (I had the use of it for a couple of weeks from a mate) way back in the very early 80s. Really nice guitar. Thanks very much.
Yeah I sold it quite quickly and for not a lot of money.
maybe it's buzz wont be as noticed in a mix of music ? i agree with what you said though ,saved me some money for sure,
I’m gonna have to check out the patrion, you hit the nail on the head most of the time. A lot of these things are opinions and taste, but yours is highly educated opinion and neatly refined taste, so definitely someone I can listen to to before I make a shit purchase. Thank you
Can we connect it to the pc and change effects using it official software?
Can't remember.
Sad to see the company having to focus on outsourced pC board amps to keep some of the market share. These next few years are going to kill alot of companies.
A bee hive and they've all got chainsaws. I love that image.
😀
There was no special noise? Are you okey Elmo?🤔
Thanx for the video, you rule 😊
Appreciate your honest opinion.
Angry bees with chainsaws? 😜
Cheers!
I have one of the older models gathering dust in a closet after a firmware update snafu. It is now a brick.
My Vypyr 75 still has the very first firmware because I was always too paranoid to upgrade it.
NEVER risk upgrades! So many people I know have nothing but problems because of updating everything and I use stuff for 20 years because I never update it 😐
I bought this Amp. The 2 amps I had before this one, only had a volume control. What is the pre-gain and post-gain for and how are those two controls used? Thanks
loveee ur videosss !!!!!!!
Thanks! 😊
Elmo - I just love your videos and enjoy your playing a lot but this time there's something I don't fully agree on - how can you test a modelling amp that's clearly targeted towards heavy metal loving users and use the SSS guitar on heavy presets - and than complain the sound is not clear. I've seen couple of tests of this amp and the testing guys were all ready for the filthy sounds which for them were quite satisfying. I get it - it doesn't do all as it sais and it's not the best in the lighter music department - but some of the classic Peavey sounds were there and were spot on. Maybe the amp is broken, maybe there is some buzz but from my perspective this is not that bad of an amp if you expect it to deliver some sounds from the heavy side. I agree that there are many better amps that overall produce better pack of sounds but I guess people buiyng Peavey amp more or less know what to expect from this line of products. But being a valve amps using guy I guess you have completely different perspective on the sound that you expect and I respect that. From my perspective however - using mostly modelling amps for heavy sound - this sound is quite acceptable. Cheers!
Finally!
I'm playing for years and years and I typically only play tube amps I don't like modeling amps much although the the Vox valvetronix single Tube It was kind of awful it's kind of convenient just for a quick you just do me like just a quick Buck around. I always used to bands predominately for everything. Surprised when I picked up and play this hand because it does have way more power than 820 w I've ever had not had a bunch of old peevish it amps. Is that play bass to and you know it I was actually surprised this thing is better sounding than some of the other people are seeing on this thread and the guy who did this video he just kind of bending and agreeing with people on the thread on the comments section. But I don't agree I was actually surprised I'm not saying the same to deepest a the world but the amount of power that it has surprised me I was actually trying to figure out if there was a single tube for a Mazda in this thing. And the effects natone are better than any of the other multi-effects amps of played before even better than developer Tronics or the Marshall valvestate or any of those hybrid amps. I'm pushing my son to get a really good too bad I still think this was a great early and for him to seize a good first a better than the first amp if you had to suffer with a transistor a nap that has effects this one actually does pretty damn well. The simple fact or the Walmart fact are not going to be anything anyone's looking for. And Distortion tones are the best in the world but same time the pretty fucking good for what you're paying for handles and it does some things just like a real tube amplifier and I was kind of surprised. I played a shitload of old crappy gear and I've also played a lot of tube amps in my life. This thing definitely has a high game handling like a mosfet or tube that is attractive. I typically only like the high-voltage sound. I'm 43 and I've been playing since I was 15 and I have tried all sorts of gear out there starting off mystery regular Metalhead stuff going through all sorts of metal gear into a guitar synthesizers and also it's a various digital and Roland gear. Back to all sorts of classic and Boutique Old amps and old rare guitar pedals and rare synthesizers through old 60s guitar amplifiers able to do things that most guitars these days don't even know about experimental sounds and crazy warped out stuff that you can get old tube amps to do the new tube amps just don't do shit is most of the quote tube amps you people are playing not real tube amps with their solid state rectifier chips anyways all these supposed to have some people are going in buying at Guitar Center for the past 20 years 30 years had a few tubes but aren't that great and sound quality anybody can see she looked something like Harmony central.com. trying to figure out why your buddies rating brand new tube amps are supposed to be so great with such low numbers yeah old generic 1960s guitar amps agent piece of shit I getting tens in sound quality. I've played some of them so I know that that is not wrong. Stop my number one amplifiers I looking for amps with rectifier tubes no circuit boards as of this point I play with mostly classic rock and experimental psychedelic type sounds cast for Modern amp to practice with is just a $200 for $300 a things actually fantastic you looking for just a practice a something you just want your kids to have that can sound like rock metal that kind of thing it's a great amp that kind of thing. Personally I'd rather go with an old rare app off of eBay if it has the right components inside of it. The last one I got is a Harmony h303a aercap most people don't know about yeah it was made in 62 in America made America to Jensen speaker made in Chicago why live by. And the thing gets tense of sound quality from most people and you can completely freak it out create crazy sagging effects Wicked buzzsaw affects all sorts of things you can never get these modern aims to do. I stopped off and I picked up a the guitar shop an old analog distortion pedal on the earliest boss pedals the most suck and are not analog they are cosm which means fake trash. This one was a turbo overdrive sounds like a tube screamer those more balls I'll sit there and play bunch really distorted classic rock and old metal. And everyone at their shop agreed this 62 app the generic brand are not sounded way better than any of these modern tube amps their solid-state rectifier trash. So you see I want a real tube amp! Be at your probably going to get an app that's not a real tube amp even Marshalls sells the garbage nowadays. Good go with Mesa Boogie honestly the best tube rectifier amps truly are the old ones as you can walk the sound and get sounds out of your amplifier but you cannot get nowadays these things I'll have circuit boards they're all trash.
Only two of my guitars have single coils in the bridge,....also all of my guitar amps are all tube, except for my 2 practice amps,.....they are the VYPYR 75 and the VIP 2 all in one amp,.....they are fine for practice,.....but I can see why anyone using a single coil guitar would say they sound like crap.
Great to hear
Can´t believe in 2022 they still make stuff that sounds like a Zoom 505 or a Metalzone.
Good comparison. The modelling is so so poor for 2022.
Lol yeah but the mt2 can sound really good believe it or not
I have a VYPYR X2 and no loud or physical buzzing.
Does anyone know if there are any other amp manufacturers that make an amp that can do electric, acoustic and bass?
Yamaha THR if I remember correctly. Probably loads of others as well. Google it.
what amp in this price range would you recommend for hard rock and metal?
Hi mate was wondering what your thoughts am on the old Peavey Vypyr tube series vs the new x series for tone and performance.
Haven't tried the old one.
@@MrPolevaulter OK mate sound. No worries.
So you like the amp right?
Yeah :D
I have your vip1. Performs better than the real 5150. Vip produces that EVH feel at moderate volumes, whereas the 5150 has to be cranked up to produce anything similar.
My Vip?
@@MrPolevaulter “My” vip-1, not yours:) How google corrects what one wants to type is truly annoying.
@@gokhanersan8561 Google is the Karen of the internet
May be good for the movie music?? Chainsaw Massaker for example-;) anyway ..great playing!!
:D
Why was the cab resonating? Peavey may have some quality control or design issues. Besides that, it's a great all-in-one amp.
Tightened a few screws and that helped.
Buzzing like a 🐝!
Well, my previous generation version of the Peavey VYPYR VIP3 has no problems at all, is extremely easy to adjust/use and sounds wonderfully lovely too. Glad I grabbed that one.
Yup.
The 3 VIP sounded great when I tried at music store. I almost bought it
Exactly I don’t know what these people are talking about! They are good amps. There’s a couple tricks to make them sound better!! One I have the back is completely open, so I enclosed it! Now it thunders. The Vypyr 2 I have I plugged that hole they put in the back. It sounds better. Since the sound is forced through the front and not lost through the back!
Speaking of cabs, I do believe that these VIP cabinets may be rather fragile and are prone to either obvious or invisible shipping damage by rough or careless handling. If I remember correctly, my VIP3 that I picked up myself from the store had almost no shipping protection in the box, if any, which gave me the impression that it was "one tough beast" but alas, I was likely wrong since even the plastic corner guards are very flimsy and can easily crack even though I handle all of my stuff as if it was made of eggs. Oh well...$300, what can you say?@@jeremyswalley8625
Listening on headphones, I like all the tones you're getting here. I loved my Vypyr VIP1 but it started emitting a constant high pitched tone so is now unusable. I just ordered a Vypyr X1... hopefully it won't have problems.
So , is it better ?
@@alexdenton6586 It's funny.. I haven't compared them side by side yet... but I have a feeling it's the exact same amp with new cooler housing lol. However, they both sound great to me. And, so far, no trouble with the X1 🤞
I think Peavey needs new management. I wonder if it’s salvageable at this point. It would be really cool if they would start focusing on American made simple high quality music tools instead of trying to be the cheap everything to everyone
Yeah. Just can't get my head around the thinking with this amp.
If you get one of these, get the x2 or x3. The 12" speaker models sound much better. Still not as good as the Katana imo.
Wow...the brands really are standardising the 'awful' sound lately with these modelling amps. I wonder if eventually guitarists will lower their expectations of sound quality?
Great generalization.
I used the cmp effect to get rid of the resonnance
Cmp on the stomp side
Mine isnt that bad though
I was talked into buying a valve Peavey 20 years ago when the company was family owned and managed. it was heavy and turned hot within 15 minutes of moderate use. Can't say anything about solid state Peavey but don't think I am interested after seeing this video.
Old Peaveys are hard to beat....the newer ones, is another story.
I've got an old 5150, and it's incredible. I've got an old Renown, its a war horse, heck I've even got a blue stripe Bandit that I use.
Granted none of the smaller ones are a Fender Tweed, but they're good. When the plant in Mississippi changed ownership the quality went down the "tube".
Nobody can't doubt the 5150's and the sound and power.....but the new ones, I'll pass.
I agree it's likely the 18" speaker causing some of the issues with vibrations, but the sound quality? That falls on piss poor electronics.
What do you mean changed ownership? When did that happen?
When I ask point-blank the difference between the X series and the outgoing VIP series TONE-wise (not looks) as the amp seems a literal copy from the old version with the addition of bluetooth. Each time I ask this, Peavey removes my comment on their channel. Every time.
Haha 🤣
I have the x2 no buzzing . It it’s a very heavy Gain amp
That overdrive made my head turn.
And fall off.
I'll take a Code thanks
🤣
I havent tried the 8" model I have an old VIP2 12" that has 4 good patches i made.
Maybe Peavey "custom-voiced" the speaker to sound terrible. I thought you were going to say, "If you like this kind of thing, I have one for sale."
There are a bunch of demos where a reviewer says "I don't like this" and I think "it's not that bad," but here... Man, that resonance is unforgivable. The original Vypyr 15 did the same thing but fortunately it was the chintzy plastic "batwing" fascia on the front that was easily removed. This is just... bad. And doesn't sound good either. The Fender Mustang LT25 kicks this thing's butt all day long; the Princeton, Hiwatt, and Supersonic sounds are so good on that thing it's unbelievable.
Yeah, this ain't great.
I've heard a guy comparing X2 and X3. X2 sounded for him like X1 for you with bees and chains as you said. ;-)
But X3 was completely different, definitely better.
just got one. i have the resonate also.
CONGRATS ELMO !!
YOU JUST SET THE RECORD FOR MOST BARS EVER PLAYED ON A PEAVEY VYPER...VIPYER? WHATEVER THE F IT IS.
The resonance was loud from jump and overwhelming to my ears, not the transgender criminals they once were eh....get it... nevermind. Could tell you wanted to like it, I think we all miss Peavey. They're the Gibson of amplifiers lmfao. I haven't heard anything to make me run n sell my Nextone stage. Peavey should hire you dude, turn them slackers around. I'm gonna join your patreon cause of your authenticity.
Thank you very much 😊
vypyr needs noise reduction?
I don't know dude- I honestly think the amp had more in it than you. Sorry.
Elmo, please do a smokey amp video !!
Smokey amp into a big cabinet th-cam.com/video/iqbe69nxd-U/w-d-xo.html
Smokey amp?
@@MrPolevaulter It is a battery operated amp , you can connect it to a big cabinet. Sounds fantastic and is very affordable.