There are smaller revolvers. I own one. It's a tiny pinfire thing that that I bought at the J.M. Davis Gun Museum in Claremore, OK about 25 years ago. It's not legally a firearm for some reason I haven't figured out. The ammo that came with it is blanks, but it would be fully capable of firing a teeny tiny bullet if you loaded one, and there's room in the chambers for a bullet to be added on top of the blank, making me think that was the original design. It would, of course, be less dangerous than even a weak BB gun.
the range officer is a really cool guy for holding out his palm to help collect those spent cartridges. I've seen him so often on FW range days, he feels like a part of the channel now.
I will say they have amazing customer service - I haven't even bought any product from the company, but when I contacted them with a question, the owner of the company got back to me himself within a day.
They are great for what they are. They are deep conceal revolvers. That means that it is a "backup" to a backup gun. Like evaluating a knife for shovel uses, is missing the point of the item in question. Deep conceal is for just outside of "knife distance" use. Think six to 12 steps away depending on stride.
sounds like the old slogan for the german Bundeswehr's P1 pistols... "9 shots, 7 as bullets and then two parts of the gun to throw"... only with the NAA you'd have 5 actual shots and one throw, too time consuming to fiddle with the cylinder and it would be pretty light anyway, so no additional damage ;)
I shot one of those once. You had to be careful to always bend your fingers all the way around. . because it's quite possible to shoot the end of your fingers off with a one inch barrel. Cool little guns though👍😉
The top break (The Ranger 2) which Mirelle mentioned would work quite well with that since removing and replacing the cylinder is very easy when the action is open.
I reckon they scan books for obscure and/or terrible pistols and lay bets on which one Ian will bring along! (and for extra shits 'n' giggles, how well he will do with it!)
Gun meets, comps, and bare range time is always a hoot when _That Guy_ shows up. There's always someone who made it their life's purpose to buy/acquire oddities. That, or that one person who can recite the alphabet backward, while doing a headstand, and hitting steel out of a snubnose .40 revolver all at the same time.
And this is one of the points the Hoplophobes try to ignore... More times than not, just *having* a weapon stops the crime. Three times in my life, just displaying the butt of my weapon stopped a mugging. No one got hurt, everyone went on about their day, *legally.*
@@peterkerr4019 No shots fired, no blood shed and maybe someone has a come to Jesus moment.....but yeah, this situation should never have to happen. But we don’t and never will live in that world
"Yeah, the 10mm was just all over the place, couldn't get the sights to line up, must be a loose screw, and the ammo I bought last week was a total mess. Came in 28th, but still finished the match." "What came in 27th?" "..." "..."
The triumph in Ian's voice when he realized that popper had fallen over was palpable!! These revolvers really are made for contact distance engagements, but it was great to see one tested at a BUG match.
"but a .22 NAA is the only thing that i can conceal in my speedos when i go swimming at the YMCA..." Credit: A comment on the lucky gunner ammo channel. XD
I love the NAA Minis, got my first one in the 1980. For the record I do carry it on a regular basis when doing yard work. Over the years I taken a couple of timber rattlers, 4 or 5 copperheads, a couple cotton mouths and several rats. I keep 2 snake shot followed by 3 HP. Have never used the HPs...
I keep meaning to practice with rat shot on a pizza box on the ground to get a good idea of effective distances. I shot a rattlesnake once with .380 from a LCP and that sucker started moving towards me fast when he realized I was shooting near his head.
@@harperhellems3648 I know that some whistle pigs have laughed to me trying to shoot them at maybe 20 yards with a 9mm shotshell. My attitude since then is rattlesnake within about 10ft is the limit.
If you are going to carry an NAA, that's the one to get in my opinion. I love mine! Revision CV makes excellent grips for NAA Magnum Frames that currently lives on my Widow.
I actually have one of these, got it from dad when he went into old folks home. It is a neat little revolver. Hard to hit much with it and it reloads a mite slow, but I think it designed more for "contact" distance rather any kind of ranged effort. At contact distance a .22 mag ain't nothing to sneeze at.
Especially nasty loaded with Hornady Critical Defense hollow point, if you carry one keep it loaded with this..This stuff comes unglued it's freaking ugly the damage it'll do on squishy things.
@@con6lex They kick way more than you'd expect too. But at card table range its OK. This is the only good someone would carry without reloads since unless you have the break open variation by the time you got the job done , the cops would have arrived the crime scene would be processed and the case on the docket. Alright that is an exergation but you need an extra cylinder fro the job and as Ian shows its slow, too slow for serious times.
I have the folding stock / holster. I found the factory handle almost impossible to grip. They are fun though. What worries me is how close my finger is the end of the barrel when I'm reloading. And like you said.... well made.
In the late 1980s a friend's father flew on a commercial flight wearing one of those in the ornamental belt buckle holster. He almost always wore it, and didn't think about that he was flying that day. It set off the detector of course, and the operator pointed to his buckle and told him to take it off and walk through again. He walked through no problem, the guy handed him back his belt and wished him a nice flight!
Oh my gosh! Wow! I have one of these... My grandfather carried one of these as his backup gun when he was an agent in the ATT (Before they were the ATF)
I like those little .22s. I always carried one in my watch pocket of my jeans. Never needed it but it was there just incase I couldn't find a pointed stick.
The NAA wasn't intended for distance, but ranges 10' or closer. It's a last ditch gun, better than a knife, rock or pointed stick. Like the derringers of the Old West, it's a belly gun. Treating it as a BUG Gun greatly exceeds its design/use parameters Ian. About 10 years ago, my wife's employer changed the scrubs they wore at the dental office, into a style she could no longer carry her S&W Mod 60 without printing. The office is located in a rough high crime part of town. I bought her the very gun you used at this match. Modifying a nylon and Velcro ankle holster she carries it in. Spent considerable time at the range as she became proficient with it. At 10', she can keep all 5 shots within a 3-4" group, at just a little less than 1 second per shot (incidentally, rocking your wrist to cock the hammer impacts your time considerably, and unless your hands are very small, it's a bad habit, and unnecessary if you train correctly). Frankly, she loves that little gun, and willingly spends time working to stay proficient with it. Is it the best option? No. Is much better than no gun at all? Damn right it is. When you're vid popped up in my feed, I immediately knew you wouldn't have a good score, because it's not a BUG Gun, and was never intended to be. Can you imagine how much minute micro machining it would require to make the cylinder swing out on a crane and have an ejector in the cylinder. Or to make both DA and SA. They do make a slightly longer barreled version with a target style adjustable rear sight. There's also an after market laser grip designed for it. Despite its limitations. It is a very well made wee pistol. Exhibiting great craftsmanship, and a Lifetime warranty second to none. There are also a Break Top and Swing out cylinder versions of the gun. Both are a bit bigger to accommodate the room needed to use those mechanisms. There's even a Cap N Ball Percussion version of the NAA Mini Revolver for Black Powder Afficiandos. We're I a cop, I'd look more at NAA's Guardian line of pistols. One of the smallest semi auto's on the market. A 6+1 DAO semi auto, available in either .32 or .380 ACP, with a 2.2" and 2.5" barrels respectively. It's too bad, that neither the .25 NAA and .32 NAA collaboration between NAA and CorBon succeeded. The .25 NAA used a necked down to .25 .32 auto case, and the .32NAA a necked down to .32 .380 auto case. Both had muzzle velocities that exceeded 1300fps out of their respective cases. Turning the Guardian into quite the smallest hand cannon commercially produced. Poor marketing, the biggest reason for its lack of success. I would like to see you redo the Bug match with a Guardian. I'd bet your scores go up considerably.
I have these guns, and believe me it takes some real practice to get accurate with these little guys. The first time I shot at a target at about ten or fifteen feet away, I didn't even hit the target at all. I was scratching my head trying to figure out what the heck was going on, until I realized that the short barrel aim could be protracted based on how it was held and sighted and affect the aim. These guns are much better for up close and personal, and I would never get rid of mine, carry them everyday.
I carried a Freedom Arms 22 mini revolver for a couple of years as a backup to my backup. I carried it in a watch pocket built into my uniform pants when on duty, and actually had a cowboy style belt buckle that it fit in when off duty. You just had to press a button to release it from the buckle. I finally realized I was kidding myself carrying the thing and sold it.
The point is ,that the NAA is on a league of his own,smaller than compact,even smaller than subcompact, it truly can fit wherever you want,and still be able to make a hole. It is not meant to kill,most of times,but to surprise those than believe than you cannot possibly be carrying a gun in that moment. The only gun similar in size and function is a Beretta 418. I would not carry it even a secondary,but an extra failsafe. It can fit in cig pack,in a purse,in a shoe sole.
I wonder if 22lr is best for the purposes this gun is built for,using the smaller barrel and not worrying too much about power,considering that there are rounds specifically made for short barrel pistols. It may be even more powerful 22mag in such a short platform.
@@junichiroyamashita the .22 lr is not contemptible, and it's *cheap,* and it's *everywhere.* The more capable rounds are rare, and much more costly. Even .22wmr is fairly rare, comparitively.
You keep practicing with that and you will discover the littlest pistol IS accurate. They make models with pretty good sights and it’s pretty reliable. I can produce groups at 21 ft, and at 7 ft I can put all 5 in 2” in about 2 second. You can do better, but as anyone who has shot the taurus curve knows, you can do worse. For up close work where you need a deep conceal, it’s just fine.
The problem with this one is the lack of a proper rear sight to judge elevation. Of course you can get better with practice in knowing where exactly to aim, but the first time I shot one of these I was trying to chronograph it and ended up shooting the chronograph because the rear notch is so low. It's very consistent, just not accurate.
Yeah except you're left with a comically small single action for "up close work" Yeah you have a gun, but can you even get a grip and fire it quickly or with one hand?
Cool video Ian! I like the 22WMR round. I carry a 6 1/2" barrel Ruger Single Six revolver loaded with 22 magnum ammo when I go camping. It makes a great trail gun.
With this gun they need a stage where you are seated with a target in front of you about same distance as from the front seat of a Lincon Continental to the back seat, and you must fire one handed, while your other hand holds a box of cannoli.
I've used one of those to consistently make hits in 22LR on a ten inch gong at 25 yards. There is a little notch on the topstrap that acts as a rear sight. Once you work out the ammo and hold, it works, in good light, when you're not in a hurry, or stressed.
In the late 1980's I worked in a gunshop in a small Southern Town that had about 100 officers for both city and county, and EVERY one of them carried one of these in their pocket! This DID include the admin officers that never left the station, and it was locally known by all those officers as the "get off me gun," and was absolutely always found only in 22 magnum caliber. To be used in a hand to hand scuffle, and at least it was once so used that I personally knew of.
Same. I have the Pug model, which has a rear sight, and with the "holster grip" it's actually a fun little shooter. I can reliably hit milk jugs out to 7 yards or so. I wouldn't call it a first choice BUG by any means, but in a situation where I couldn't have a better pistol for whatever reason? I'd rather have the Pug than a sharp stick, let's put it that way.
I had one of these guys back in the day, it went in a clip on holster on the inside of my boot, it also made a decent gun to put in the pocket of my board shorts on laundry day, only reason I sold it was because I intended to go up to a sidewinder but never got around to buying one. It was an honest to God gun that I wouldn't want to be 5 feet in front of, and more pleasant to shoot than my .25
Got one of these for my mom years ago, along with a much larger aftermarket grip. She's 5'3" and has small hands, so it actually "works". We call it The Rocket Launcher. It fits perfectly in her biker vest's pocket. We also got her a .380, for obvious reasons. This little sucker might be fun, but it isn't smart.
A gun I have actually shot! My uncle has one, usually loaded with ratshot, as a snake gun. In the confines of a creaky old barn, it works fine. i'm sure it will annoy anyone with safety training to know he keeps it in a leather pouch around his neck. That yelp at 5:14 pretty well sums up the experience.. Loved the video, Ian!
A friend has one these NA mini revolver chamber in 22LR. He decided to completely disassemble it, but couldn’t reassemble it. The side plate is held in place by a single counter sunk head screw that only has a short treaded tip which threads into the opposite side of the revolver frame. This single screw is also the hammer pivot. The hammer spring is a shallow “S” shape that hooks into a groove in the bottom of the grip frame, and groove on the hammer. The problem is the hammer spring needs to be slightly compressed in order to reassemble. What I did was on both ends of the hammer spring was file and polish a small groove in the middle width of the hammer spring, the loop a length of kevlar fishing line around the the length of the hammer spring nestled into the groove. I then compressed the spring between the jaws of a vise and tied a took up the slack in the line and tied a knot, securing the knot with cyanoacrylate (Super Glue). I was then able to assemble the hammer and side plate, then with needle nose pliers insert the hammer spring, pull the hammer back positioning both ends if the hammer spring in the frame and hammer grooves, and while holding the hammer back, cut the kevlar line which released tension and pulled the line out and as the hammer spring is under slightly tension at rest is held in place. Placed the R/L grip panels on the grip frame and secured with its cross screw. I certain that North American Arms has some kind of assembly fixture for compressing the hammer spring. At least I got it back together for my friend. Now he knows to not do a complete disassembly. I can’t blame him as I would had been compelled to see what’s inside the frame.
I remember when those came out and were somewhat popular, they actually made a belt buckle that carried one of those. It actually looked like a buckle with a fake gun, but was one of those tiny revolvers.
And most jurisdictions that regulated such things (which was, essentially, all of them at the time) immediately ruled them to be a "concealed weapon" if they were attached to the belt buckle...even if you were tucked in and the gun was completely visible.
I have owned and carried a couple of those little guys. There was a model with a folding grip that had a pocket clip on it. It gave you a decent amount of material to hold on to. Those guns are really for 3 yards or less. Take Care and be safe, John
I like what NAA put in their ads before, and it's always stuck with me. "Is it effective? Would you want to be shot by one?" And that's what the FBI discovered. All handgun rounds universally suck. All that matters is that when people are shot and know they are shot, psychology kicks in and enters self-preservation mode, usually resulting in neutralization. A 10mm or .500 S&W really isn't any better than a .22 or .25 ACP, at the end of the day. Nobody says "Oh, you shot me with a .380 ACP? Pathetic! You expect me to give up from that?! I would think about giving up if it was a 9mm Makarov, but I don't care about a .380, you should have picked a 9x19 or a .357 SIG".
i own the freedom arms one and at close range it is pretty good and the blast sounds like a 38 when indoors or towns and city streets so that alone will scare intruders but not out in the open when most guns are way less noisy. it is a belly gun nothing more not for competition or target
I have a similar very small revolver that I affectionately refer to as The Noisy Cricket from the little gun Will Smith gets in the first Men in Black. It fits in an ankle holster and you forget its even there.
Homeopathic 10mm is a great comeback. Definitely laughed out loud. NAA Black Widow has adjustable sights. But the oversize grips start to undercut the deep conceal rationale. . . I like the folding version with removable pocket clip. I've also heard people say, "it's not much of a gun, but it's one hell of a nasal decongestant".
I have the 22lr version with the 1 1/8” barrel and the folding grip. I absolutely love it. Huge learning curve to shoot it well but it’s quite accurate once you figure it out and it’s so easy to carry. It has been on several hundred miles worth of runs with me
I have a NAA mini in 22 mag and I love the thing...once I figured out how to hold it best (for me) and aim the thing i was surprised with what I could hit with it. If that was your first time shooting that very gun then that ain’t bad. More than anything I love weird, odd or unique guns and for that reason I love my NAA. I carry it daily
These things are pretty inexpensive and really fun to plink with. Obviously they present a serious challenge when trying to hit anything but that's what makes them fun little range toys. I have the .22lr version and it fits in the little pocket watch pocket on most jeans lol. NAA also makes a belt buckle that doubles as a display plaque for the gun if you want to carry it fashionably.
Fun video Ian - competitive shooting doesn't need to be dead serious every time! Could you do a video, with some of the old High Standard Sentinel 22.lr revolvers?
Ive got an NAA blackwidow in 22Mag. With a 2" barrel and adjustable 3 dot sights. Its surprisingly powerful, accurate and reliable. About 1300fps with the correct ammo, same ammo mushrooms to 10mm in a waterjug. I can shoot small plates at 7 yards easily. And it doesn't light strike with my preferred ammo. Some ammo is terrible in these guns... also used to have a 1-1/8" barrel in 17HMR, now that was un reliable and inaccurate... keyhole city
I used to love my NAA black widow. Such a fun little gun to shoot. Got lots of looks, lots of people dubbed it the noisy cricket. Little tiny gun, but if you use hot 22 mag loads, it barks and belches fire. Not what people expect from a tiny revolver.
I would argue that when these where first designed they had a legitimate place as a self defense gun, at the time a it was a gun you could carry when you couldn't carry a gun or a back up, before the polymer subcompact options if today.
I owned several polymer sub- and micro-compacts and the NAA is way, way smaller and lighter than all of them. In a pocket holster it will conceal in gym shorts, swimwear or your pajamas. You cannot do that with even an LCP. Anything that offers that level of carriability will continue to have a place in the market, because just about no other gun offers 100% program compliance regardless of your attire. The Pug is my personal favorite NAA model because of the larger rubber grip, the added rear sight and the tritium front sight. Practice with something like that and you can make it work adequately within room range. Only real problem I have is that cheaper ammo can tumble out of the 1-inch barrel, but stuff like Gold Dots and Critical Defense always stabilize.
I know a guy who found one of these rattling around behind the glove compartment of a used car he had bought. it's more of a lucky charm than it is a weapon.
I have one of those .22mags. Hey, it's meant as a pocket gut-buster, not a match pistol!! (Based off the original .22LR mini-revolvers from the mid-1800's)
@Robert Sears ok let me get this straight: a 5.56 SBR is useless but a tiny 5 shot single action .22 magnum revolver is a legit self defense gun? Yeah ok Elmer.
@Robert Sears I guess your just going to completely forget about any other caliber an SBR could be chambered in, huh? .300 BLK, 7.62x39, 9mm, 10mm, .45 ACP, etc. Plus, I have a suppressor so the concussion is hardly an issue for me.
Shoting the worlds smallest revolver while wearing a T-shirt with the worlds largest revolver
I think there have been revolving cannons larger than the Puckle gun tho
XD
@@MrCh0o th-cam.com/video/FNGEWZxlE30/w-d-xo.html
There are smaller revolvers. I own one. It's a tiny pinfire thing that that I bought at the J.M. Davis Gun Museum in Claremore, OK about 25 years ago. It's not legally a firearm for some reason I haven't figured out. The ammo that came with it is blanks, but it would be fully capable of firing a teeny tiny bullet if you loaded one, and there's room in the chambers for a bullet to be added on top of the blank, making me think that was the original design.
It would, of course, be less dangerous than even a weak BB gun.
I want to see Ian pulling a Puckle gun out of his pocket & saying "this is my BUG"
Can't help but to smile whenever Ian hits some steel and the crowd cheered ceremoniously.
I don't know who was more surprised....
Ian, the range-master or the audience....
The only thing missing, was the golf clap xD
Yeah because normally he can’t hit shit all.
@@iglooproductionsYou're not funny.
@@arnoldwardenaar127 the target 😋
the range officer is a really cool guy for holding out his palm to help collect those spent cartridges. I've seen him so often on FW range days, he feels like a part of the channel now.
It’s a private match, they’re all friends.
Should breakdown some matches with the guy. Share some experiences. Would make an interesting video.
so, noob question then. You can reuse those?
@@intherealilive not 22 rimfire. That's why Ian waved off the offer.
@@thomastheisman1751 You can, in fact, reuse 22s but like why
I can't imagine what the range guys think when Ian turns up.
"Oh great, here's Ian, what whacky shit has he brought this time?"
@Mr. Shlock No need to be so rude mate. It was sarcasm.
Besides, I'm English. I shoot guns vicariously through Ian.
I legit heard him or the range guys literally say he brings wacky guns in one of the videos, but I can't remember which one.
Followed by "can I try it?"
"I've bought an American revolver."
"Oh...that's pretty normal..."
"Don't speak to soon."
@Mr. Shlock I got mine in 22lr fun little gun, I call it the noisy cricket
Mind you, "run away like a little girl" is by no means a negative remark here, it's actually the _smart_ thing to do in this situation.
Yup. It is (almost) always a good idea to take cover THEN shoot back.
He SQUEAKED! 😂
The song “Brave Sir Robin ran away” comes to mind.
"A groin shot, very effective". Master Ken would agree
And, restomp the groin!
@Robert Sears which one 🤣
@Robert Sears the joke
Your head
"27 of 31 overall"
What abominations where the other 4 wielding?
Maybe someone used a Nock Volley Gun?
Muzzle loaders?
FP-45 liberators
Derringers
zip 22s?
"I'm gonna run away like a little girl"
Complete with scream :D
Good god the comments are even better than the video
I love the background guy at 5:56 "interesting strategy" and he sounds like he's really considering it lol
Well, he does have a ponytail. I can say that, as i also have a ponytail. 🤣
It's traditional. I would scream too running away hoping they wouldn't consider me as armed... Sorta armed... Maybe armed.
I will say they have amazing customer service - I haven't even bought any product from the company, but when I contacted them with a question, the owner of the company got back to me himself within a day.
Good
They are great for what they are. They are deep conceal revolvers. That means that it is a "backup" to a backup gun. Like evaluating a knife for shovel uses, is missing the point of the item in question. Deep conceal is for just outside of "knife distance" use. Think six to 12 steps away depending on stride.
I bought a .22 mag mini revolver used, the front sight was bent to the side. The company repaired it in a couple of weeks free of charge.
@@DaedalusHelios I was going to make that exact comment. 👍
@@justindunlap1235 now that's great customer service; almost to the point of excessiveness... but who else would put a gunsmith to one?
I want to see a backup backup gun match where he engages insect size targets with the 2.7mm Kolibri.
You have to engage flower-sized targets with Kolibri.
Aside from I don't think there are enough Kolibri rounds in existence to finish a BUG match, I support this idea.
At kissing range.
with a liberator
@@brent8491 You can always make your own rounds. From matches ;)
Imagine having a bandolier of these guns.
sounds like the old slogan for the german Bundeswehr's P1 pistols... "9 shots, 7 as bullets and then two parts of the gun to throw"... only with the NAA you'd have 5 actual shots and one throw, too time consuming to fiddle with the cylinder and it would be pretty light anyway, so no additional damage ;)
I'm picturing the Matrix lobby scene but when he opens his coat he reveals dozens of tiny revolvers holstered on him
@@sullgames Nice, it would basically replace the empty shells from the M16 style guns and machine pistols with bouncing "empty" NAAs...
@@sullgames During training, “Loading: Jerry Miculek“
@@Ugly_German_Truths "10 warning shots and one deadly throw!"
"Homeopathic 10mm"
I enjoyed that remark quite a bit. And by a quite a bit I mean 1 part of enjoyment in 10 to the 24th power of indifference.
lol
1^24 = 1
I shot one of those once. You had to be careful to always bend your fingers all the way around.
. because it's quite possible to shoot the end of your fingers off with a one inch barrel.
Cool little guns though👍😉
1 to the 24th is 1
@@Ni999 Oops. I spotted me typing quit instead of quite. Didn't see me miss the 0 key too.
If a person were to carry an extra cylinder it would probably be just as easy to keep it in another frame.
The obvious logical conclusion is that you should dual wield them.
If it gets much smaller he could hide it in his beard
The top break (The Ranger 2) which Mirelle mentioned would work quite well with that since removing and replacing the cylinder is very easy when the action is open.
I swear, the people at the range love when Ian shows up just to see what odd thing he brought with him this time.
I reckon they scan books for obscure and/or terrible pistols and lay bets on which one Ian will bring along! (and for extra shits 'n' giggles, how well he will do with it!)
@@jcorbett9620 He's not last!
"Back Up Gun match next week."
"Alright, what weird guns are in the pool? I've got ten on this mini revolver..."
Gun meets, comps, and bare range time is always a hoot when _That Guy_ shows up. There's always someone who made it their life's purpose to buy/acquire oddities. That, or that one person who can recite the alphabet backward, while doing a headstand, and hitting steel out of a snubnose .40 revolver all at the same time.
My mom actually used one of these in a defensive situation years back. She didn’t have to shoot it, luckily. Just flashing it scared the guys off.
And this is one of the points the Hoplophobes try to ignore... More times than not, just *having* a weapon stops the crime.
Three times in my life, just displaying the butt of my weapon stopped a mugging. No one got hurt, everyone went on about their day, *legally.*
That’s the way it should be
@@weswolever7477 It's not the way it should be. Everybody should be able to walk the streets safely, but we all know that's not possible.
Great!
@@peterkerr4019 No shots fired, no blood shed and maybe someone has a come to Jesus moment.....but yeah, this situation should never have to happen.
But we don’t and never will live in that world
"Yeah, the 10mm was just all over the place, couldn't get the sights to line up, must be a loose screw, and the ammo I bought last week was a total mess. Came in 28th, but still finished the match."
"What came in 27th?"
"..."
"..."
It’s complicated
I think everyone would understand the moment the words " Ian brought a weird gun" came out of your mouth
The triumph in Ian's voice when he realized that popper had fallen over was palpable!! These revolvers really are made for contact distance engagements, but it was great to see one tested at a BUG match.
"but a .22 NAA is the only thing that i can conceal in my speedos when i go swimming at the YMCA..."
Credit: A comment on the lucky gunner ammo channel.
XD
The utter shriek of terror during the third scene was so good.
I think he makes the same noise in the M14 full-auto video. It's his kung-fu scream.
I love the NAA Minis, got my first one in the 1980. For the record I do carry it on a regular basis when doing yard work. Over the years I taken a couple of timber rattlers, 4 or 5 copperheads, a couple cotton mouths and several rats. I keep 2 snake shot followed by 3 HP. Have never used the HPs...
I keep meaning to practice with rat shot on a pizza box on the ground to get a good idea of effective distances. I shot a rattlesnake once with .380 from a LCP and that sucker started moving towards me fast when he realized I was shooting near his head.
@@harperhellems3648 I know that some whistle pigs have laughed to me trying to shoot them at maybe 20 yards with a 9mm shotshell.
My attitude since then is rattlesnake within about 10ft is the limit.
"this is like homeopathic 10mm, as it gets smaller it gets more powerful."
"its got more bullshit?"
NAA finally got wise and began making models that can loaded without removing the cylinder.
You mean the ranger and sidewinder?
Well,it is not like i would find myself reloading it in a hurry any time sooner.
@@ChrisLoew Yes. Those models also have a number of variations and barrel lengths can can help not avoid accidentally shooting your fingers.
@Connor Hoskins He'll probably have several ready to go, they're cheap enough.
The NAA ranger had a few fatal flaws revealed in reviews. Otherwise, I would have considered getting one.
I carried a NAA Black Widow for several years as a EDC. It has a 2 inch barrel better sights and a oversized rubber grip. Loaded with Speer Gold Dots.
That's my backup right now. I love it
If you are going to carry an NAA, that's the one to get in my opinion. I love mine! Revision CV makes excellent grips for NAA Magnum Frames that currently lives on my Widow.
It’s amazing how something that looks like a toy still beats out that double shot staple gun meant for self defense.
I just feel bad for the people Ian beat with that revolver. Must have been a rough dinner for them later :-)
I dunno. While not Jerry Miculek, Ian gets quite a bit of practice; he's come a long way since he fell in with this crowd.
@@petesheppard1709 Truth, but I doubt even Jerry could win with that revolver :-)
@@TheRedneckPreppy Indeed! 😎 But the run would still be epic, and to see him do a reload...🧐
Jerry would do a New York reload with his m-82.
@@TheRedneckPreppy Bob Munden could have done it.
I actually have one of these, got it from dad when he went into old folks home. It is a neat little revolver. Hard to hit much with it and it reloads a mite slow, but I think it designed more for "contact" distance rather any kind of ranged effort. At contact distance a .22 mag ain't nothing to sneeze at.
5:28- I think the steel target fell over out of surprise more than anything else.
My granddad carries one of these. I'm not sure if he's shot it in this century but I always thought it looked pretty cool
My Mom used to carry one of these as well. Sitting in my gun safe now.
Especially nasty loaded with Hornady Critical Defense hollow point, if you carry one keep it loaded with this..This stuff comes unglued it's freaking ugly the damage it'll do on squishy things.
Does he carry it in a belt buckle?
They’re just so damn conveniently small… And they’re good quality… I can’t help but love them!
They are fun, but be careful especially if you have big hands.
@@con6lex They kick way more than you'd expect too. But at card table range its OK. This is the only good someone would carry without reloads since unless you have the break open variation by the time you got the job done , the cops would have arrived the crime scene would be processed and the case on the docket. Alright that is an exergation but you need an extra cylinder fro the job and as Ian shows its slow, too slow for serious times.
I have the folding stock / holster. I found the factory handle almost impossible to grip. They are fun though. What worries me is how close my finger is the end of the barrel when I'm reloading. And like you said.... well made.
@@leoncarpenter958 The sidewinder models are the way to go.
In the late 1980s a friend's father flew on a commercial flight wearing one of those in the ornamental belt buckle holster. He almost always wore it, and didn't think about that he was flying that day. It set off the detector of course, and the operator pointed to his buckle and told him to take it off and walk through again. He walked through no problem, the guy handed him back his belt and wished him a nice flight!
"Oh Ian, nice to see you ! What kind of cursed gun are you using today ?"
Forgotten Weapons, or Misbegotten Weapons? Perhaps Ian needs to split his channel (or add a 2nd!).
@@catherinewhite2943 Brandon Herrera seems to have the "Misbegotten Weapons" channel locked down already with his Cursed Gun Images.
Oh my gosh! Wow! I have one of these... My grandfather carried one of these as his backup gun when he was an agent in the ATT (Before they were the ATF)
I like those little .22s. I always carried one in my watch pocket of my jeans. Never needed it but it was there just incase I couldn't find a pointed stick.
The NAA wasn't intended for distance, but ranges 10' or closer. It's a last ditch gun, better than a knife, rock or pointed stick. Like the derringers of the Old West, it's a belly gun. Treating it as a BUG Gun greatly exceeds its design/use parameters Ian.
About 10 years ago, my wife's employer changed the scrubs they wore at the dental office, into a style she could no longer carry her S&W Mod 60 without printing. The office is located in a rough high crime part of town. I bought her the very gun you used at this match. Modifying a nylon and Velcro ankle holster she carries it in. Spent considerable time at the range as she became proficient with it. At 10', she can keep all 5 shots within a 3-4" group, at just a little less than 1 second per shot (incidentally, rocking your wrist to cock the hammer impacts your time considerably, and unless your hands are very small, it's a bad habit, and unnecessary if you train correctly).
Frankly, she loves that little gun, and willingly spends time working to stay proficient with it. Is it the best option? No. Is much better than no gun at all? Damn right it is.
When you're vid popped up in my feed, I immediately knew you wouldn't have a good score, because it's not a BUG Gun, and was never intended to be. Can you imagine how much minute micro machining it would require to make the cylinder swing out on a crane and have an ejector in the cylinder. Or to make both DA and SA. They do make a slightly longer barreled version with a target style adjustable rear sight. There's also an after market laser grip designed for it.
Despite its limitations. It is a very well made wee pistol. Exhibiting great craftsmanship, and a Lifetime warranty second to none.
There are also a Break Top and Swing out cylinder versions of the gun. Both are a bit bigger to accommodate the room needed to use those mechanisms.
There's even a Cap N Ball Percussion version of the NAA Mini Revolver for Black Powder Afficiandos.
We're I a cop, I'd look more at NAA's Guardian line of pistols. One of the smallest semi auto's on the market. A 6+1 DAO semi auto, available in either .32 or .380 ACP, with a 2.2" and 2.5" barrels respectively.
It's too bad, that neither the .25 NAA and .32 NAA collaboration between NAA and CorBon succeeded. The .25 NAA used a necked down to .25 .32 auto case, and the .32NAA a necked down to .32 .380 auto case. Both had muzzle velocities that exceeded 1300fps out of their respective cases. Turning the Guardian into quite the smallest hand cannon commercially produced. Poor marketing, the biggest reason for its lack of success.
I would like to see you redo the Bug match with a Guardian. I'd bet your scores go up considerably.
The scream made me smile, the cheers when he hit the steel just put a huge grin across my face
I have these guns, and believe me it takes some real practice to get accurate with these little guys. The first time I shot at a target at about ten or fifteen feet away, I didn't even hit the target at all. I was scratching my head trying to figure out what the heck was going on, until I realized that the short barrel aim could be protracted based on how it was held and sighted and affect the aim. These guns are much better for up close and personal, and I would never get rid of mine, carry them everyday.
I love the one I bought cause it’s a break barrel and much faster to reload without needing to take the cylinder completely out. Fantastic little gun
I carried a Freedom Arms 22 mini revolver for a couple of years as a backup to my backup. I carried it in a watch pocket built into my uniform pants when on duty, and actually had a cowboy style belt buckle that it fit in when off duty. You just had to press a button to release it from the buckle. I finally realized I was kidding myself carrying the thing and sold it.
The excitement in Ian's voice when he hit that first steel target was too funny.
The point is ,that the NAA is on a league of his own,smaller than compact,even smaller than subcompact, it truly can fit wherever you want,and still be able to make a hole. It is not meant to kill,most of times,but to surprise those than believe than you cannot possibly be carrying a gun in that moment. The only gun similar in size and function is a Beretta 418. I would not carry it even a secondary,but an extra failsafe. It can fit in cig pack,in a purse,in a shoe sole.
I wonder if 22lr is best for the purposes this gun is built for,using the smaller barrel and not worrying too much about power,considering that there are rounds specifically made for short barrel pistols. It may be even more powerful 22mag in such a short platform.
@@junichiroyamashita the .22 lr is not contemptible, and it's *cheap,* and it's *everywhere.* The more capable rounds are rare, and much more costly.
Even .22wmr is fairly rare, comparitively.
@@zoiders They're fairly reliable guns, and the version Ian is using is the 22mag.
@@zoiders We get it. You're a hater on these. Had mine for years and like it.
You keep practicing with that and you will discover the littlest pistol IS accurate. They make models with pretty good sights and it’s pretty reliable. I can produce groups at 21 ft, and at 7 ft I can put all 5 in 2” in about 2 second. You can do better, but as anyone who has shot the taurus curve knows, you can do worse. For up close work where you need a deep conceal, it’s just fine.
I’ve seen the improved sight models up close! They’re quite nice.
The problem with this one is the lack of a proper rear sight to judge elevation. Of course you can get better with practice in knowing where exactly to aim, but the first time I shot one of these I was trying to chronograph it and ended up shooting the chronograph because the rear notch is so low. It's very consistent, just not accurate.
Their sidewinder model is so appealing to me. Haven't seen one in the gun shop yet.
Yeah except you're left with a comically small single action for "up close work"
Yeah you have a gun, but can you even get a grip and fire it quickly or with one hand?
Concealed deep inside what exactly? =/
BUG match, just means a match with weapons made for shooting bugs now
Cool video Ian! I like the 22WMR round. I carry a 6 1/2" barrel Ruger Single Six revolver loaded with 22 magnum ammo when I go camping. It makes a great trail gun.
Loved the little squeal before retreating down the hallway. Great shoot-through strategy.
A true belly gun. At close to contact range, it could beat begging for mercy.
At contact range you're in a toss up between this and a decent knife. I'd personally choose the knife.
I really wanted to see Ian wearing the enormous belt buckle these things were often carried(?) in
That revolver has now passed the Elbonian National Guard Performance Tests. A purchase order for 6,000 will be issued shortly.
Brilliant
With this gun they need a stage where you are seated with a target in front of you about same distance as from the front seat of a Lincon Continental to the back seat, and you must fire one handed, while your other hand holds a box of cannoli.
Better off with that than a life card 22lr
That's not a backup, that's a "They weren't as thorough as they thought they were in frisking me!"
I've used one of those to consistently make hits in 22LR on a ten inch gong at 25 yards.
There is a little notch on the topstrap that acts as a rear sight.
Once you work out the ammo and hold, it works, in good light, when you're not in a hurry, or stressed.
It does have a notch/trough rear site. Mine goes everywhere with me.
Me too. Been carrying it for decades. Better than nothing and better than leaving a larger gun at home.
In the late 1980's I worked in a gunshop in a small Southern Town that had about 100 officers for both city and county, and EVERY one of them carried one of these in their pocket! This DID include the admin officers that never left the station, and it was locally known by all those officers as the "get off me gun," and was absolutely always found only in 22 magnum caliber. To be used in a hand to hand scuffle, and at least it was once so used that I personally knew of.
I have a little mini revolver that has the fold out grip/holster. Actually fairly shootable for close range targets.
Same. I have the Pug model, which has a rear sight, and with the "holster grip" it's actually a fun little shooter. I can reliably hit milk jugs out to 7 yards or so. I wouldn't call it a first choice BUG by any means, but in a situation where I couldn't have a better pistol for whatever reason? I'd rather have the Pug than a sharp stick, let's put it that way.
@@kennmikos9120 Agreed. Its a going-to-the-gas-station-in-my-nice-neighborhood-to-get-Ben-and-Jerry’s-ice-cream-in-my-gym-shorts sort of gun.
@@JimYeats If your neighborhood so nice, why carry a gun?
@@clairevero Because its my legal right and I choose to exercise that right.
I had one of these guys back in the day, it went in a clip on holster on the inside of my boot, it also made a decent gun to put in the pocket of my board shorts on laundry day, only reason I sold it was because I intended to go up to a sidewinder but never got around to buying one. It was an honest to God gun that I wouldn't want to be 5 feet in front of, and more pleasant to shoot than my .25
I have one with a twist. It's a 22 Magnum, but it's cap and ball! Yes it's black powder. Absolute blast to shoot.
I want one of those! :)
It’s a back up or a last resort,not designed for fast reloads only small size. It’s the best at what it is designed for,up close encounters.
Next on Inappropriate Weapons, Ian takes an original Volcanic to a Backup Gun Match
Got one of these for my mom years ago, along with a much larger aftermarket grip. She's 5'3" and has small hands, so it actually "works".
We call it The Rocket Launcher. It fits perfectly in her biker vest's pocket.
We also got her a .380, for obvious reasons. This little sucker might be fun, but it isn't smart.
I have one of those that has what is called a holster, it is a folding grip that covers the trigger and makes a much larger grip.
Much easier to hold the fold-out, yes.
A gun I have actually shot! My uncle has one, usually loaded with ratshot, as a snake gun. In the confines of a creaky old barn, it works fine. i'm sure it will annoy anyone with safety training to know he keeps it in a leather pouch around his neck.
That yelp at 5:14 pretty well sums up the experience..
Loved the video, Ian!
Never leave the house without mine.
A friend has one these NA mini revolver chamber in 22LR. He decided to completely disassemble it, but couldn’t reassemble it. The side plate is held in place by a single counter sunk head screw that only has a short treaded tip which threads into the opposite side of the revolver frame. This single screw is also the hammer pivot. The hammer spring is a shallow “S” shape that hooks into a groove in the bottom of the grip frame, and groove on the hammer. The problem is the hammer spring needs to be slightly compressed in order to reassemble. What I did was on both ends of the hammer spring was file and polish a small groove in the middle width of the hammer spring, the loop a length of kevlar fishing line around the the length of the hammer spring nestled into the groove. I then compressed the spring between the jaws of a vise and tied a took up the slack in the line and tied a knot, securing the knot with cyanoacrylate (Super Glue). I was then able to assemble the hammer and side plate, then with needle nose pliers insert the hammer spring, pull the hammer back positioning both ends if the hammer spring in the frame and hammer grooves, and while holding the hammer back, cut the kevlar line which released tension and pulled the line out and as the hammer spring is under slightly tension at rest is held in place. Placed the R/L grip panels on the grip frame and secured with its cross screw. I certain that North American Arms has some kind of assembly fixture for compressing the hammer spring. At least I got it back together for my friend. Now he knows to not do a complete disassembly. I can’t blame him as I would had been compelled to see what’s inside the frame.
I can imagine Ian going to this match with 6 snaphance or flintlock pistols and in full set from era.
I remember when those came out and were somewhat popular, they actually made a belt buckle that carried one of those. It actually looked like a buckle with a fake gun, but was one of those tiny revolvers.
And most jurisdictions that regulated such things (which was, essentially, all of them at the time) immediately ruled them to be a "concealed weapon" if they were attached to the belt buckle...even if you were tucked in and the gun was completely visible.
Heh, that was hugely entertaining :D
Also, the fact that you shot 27th out of 31 amuses me. Did a few people DQ?
I have owned and carried a couple of those little guys. There was a model with a folding grip that had a pocket clip on it. It gave you a decent amount of material to hold on to.
Those guns are really for 3 yards or less.
Take Care and be safe, John
I like what NAA put in their ads before, and it's always stuck with me. "Is it effective? Would you want to be shot by one?"
And that's what the FBI discovered. All handgun rounds universally suck. All that matters is that when people are shot and know they are shot, psychology kicks in and enters self-preservation mode, usually resulting in neutralization. A 10mm or .500 S&W really isn't any better than a .22 or .25 ACP, at the end of the day. Nobody says "Oh, you shot me with a .380 ACP? Pathetic! You expect me to give up from that?! I would think about giving up if it was a 9mm Makarov, but I don't care about a .380, you should have picked a 9x19 or a .357 SIG".
i own the freedom arms one and at close range it is pretty good and the blast sounds like a 38 when indoors or towns and city streets so that alone will scare intruders but not out in the open when most guns are way less noisy. it is a belly gun nothing more not for competition or target
Any video where Ian says "Alright, so" my Alexa lights up. Kinda funny.
I appreciate the stage design in honour of the TPD officer - what a professional he was in that situation.
My reaction at 4:39
“You have to shoot the hostage too!?!”
Hostages only work if people care if they live.
We don't negotiate with terrorist or their hostages.
5:35 - that laugh...worth the price of admission.
My friend has one and he calls it his keyring pistol. Pretty fitting, if you have big keyring!
They make a belt buckle that accommodates one....
I have a similar very small revolver that I affectionately refer to as The Noisy Cricket from the little gun Will Smith gets in the first Men in Black. It fits in an ankle holster and you forget its even there.
I really enjoyed this video, it's nice to see you having fun, and everyone else around you is enjoying themselves too.
One of these in a Leatherman would be soooo cool!!
I do love these videos, Ian gives himself a *massive* disadvantage to see how a cool gun works, nothing to prove, somehow never comes last.
Various companies make belt buckle holsters for them. Hiding in plain sight
I like the oddball BUG matches far more than I would seeing a plastic fantastic 9mm
Homeopathic 10mm is a great comeback. Definitely laughed out loud. NAA Black Widow has adjustable sights. But the oversize grips start to undercut the deep conceal rationale. . . I like the folding version with removable pocket clip.
I've also heard people say, "it's not much of a gun, but it's one hell of a nasal decongestant".
I have the 22lr version with the 1 1/8” barrel and the folding grip. I absolutely love it. Huge learning curve to shoot it well but it’s quite accurate once you figure it out and it’s so easy to carry. It has been on several hundred miles worth of runs with me
I first ask: Why? Why would you do this to yourself? Then I think about it, and sort of go... Yeah... I get it.
I love the idea that the guys who run this match have betting pools for whatever wacky weapon Ian will bring
The grandfather kolibri is proud of his grandson is continuing the family business
I have a NAA mini in 22 mag and I love the thing...once I figured out how to hold it best (for me) and aim the thing i was surprised with what I could hit with it. If that was your first time shooting that very gun then that ain’t bad.
More than anything I love weird, odd or unique guns and for that reason I love my NAA. I carry it daily
If you hit everything we'd have to call you Revolver Ocelot
It's no Colt SAA.
These things are pretty inexpensive and really fun to plink with. Obviously they present a serious challenge when trying to hit anything but that's what makes them fun little range toys. I have the .22lr version and it fits in the little pocket watch pocket on most jeans lol. NAA also makes a belt buckle that doubles as a display plaque for the gun if you want to carry it fashionably.
Fun video Ian - competitive shooting doesn't need to be dead serious every time!
Could you do a video, with some of the old High Standard Sentinel 22.lr revolvers?
Ive got an NAA blackwidow in 22Mag. With a 2" barrel and adjustable 3 dot sights. Its surprisingly powerful, accurate and reliable. About 1300fps with the correct ammo, same ammo mushrooms to 10mm in a waterjug. I can shoot small plates at 7 yards easily. And it doesn't light strike with my preferred ammo. Some ammo is terrible in these guns... also used to have a 1-1/8" barrel in 17HMR, now that was un reliable and inaccurate... keyhole city
I carry one with no regrets. Its small, light & deadly at a close range.
I love that you’re actually just having fun at the range with weapons I own
If the guys didnt mind it id really like to see what people think of all the strange and wonderful guns ian brings to these matchs
I used to love my NAA black widow. Such a fun little gun to shoot. Got lots of looks, lots of people dubbed it the noisy cricket. Little tiny gun, but if you use hot 22 mag loads, it barks and belches fire. Not what people expect from a tiny revolver.
I would argue that when these where first designed they had a legitimate place as a self defense gun, at the time a it was a gun you could carry when you couldn't carry a gun or a back up, before the polymer subcompact options if today.
I owned several polymer sub- and micro-compacts and the NAA is way, way smaller and lighter than all of them. In a pocket holster it will conceal in gym shorts, swimwear or your pajamas. You cannot do that with even an LCP. Anything that offers that level of carriability will continue to have a place in the market, because just about no other gun offers 100% program compliance regardless of your attire.
The Pug is my personal favorite NAA model because of the larger rubber grip, the added rear sight and the tritium front sight. Practice with something like that and you can make it work adequately within room range.
Only real problem I have is that cheaper ammo can tumble out of the 1-inch barrel, but stuff like Gold Dots and Critical Defense always stabilize.
Most effective pratical demonstration of what the pistol can do.
"Homeopathic 10mm" I LOLed.
Hey, for homeopathic use, maybe you could heal .30 rifle.wounds by shooting the victim with this pistol afterwards? 🤣
I know a guy who found one of these rattling around behind the glove compartment of a used car he had bought. it's more of a lucky charm than it is a weapon.
Disassembling the revolver does not count as showing clear?
Magazine/cylinder has to be empty (even of spent cartridges), and the gun 'safed'
I have one of those .22mags. Hey, it's meant as a pocket gut-buster, not a match pistol!! (Based off the original .22LR mini-revolvers from the mid-1800's)
I've always wanted one of these as a range toy
@Robert Sears don't care, still want one.
@Robert Sears ok let me get this straight: a 5.56 SBR is useless but a tiny 5 shot single action .22 magnum revolver is a legit self defense gun? Yeah ok Elmer.
@Robert Sears whatever you say Elmer.
@Robert Sears I guess your just going to completely forget about any other caliber an SBR could be chambered in, huh? .300 BLK, 7.62x39, 9mm, 10mm, .45 ACP, etc. Plus, I have a suppressor so the concussion is hardly an issue for me.
@Robert Sears you misspelled fudd
I own one of these in 22lr and I absolutely loved watching this