Take a look a Clicksprings videos if you seriously think the 7x14 isnt capable of precision work. Only non machinists would claim it isnt. The 7x14 (wherever you buy it from) is quite capable, and is as precise as YOU are. Funny video....but c'mon guys.
lol me too...when he said "High precision lathe" and went to harbor freight... I was like ok buddy but hey I'll keep watching..... But then...when he said use a 3 jaw because they're more accurate than a 4 Jaw....when any of the best 3 jaws will inherently have .003" IR....Ok this guy may have a couple lathes but doesn't know much about machining. THEN....when he cranked down on the bullet...with two hands distorting the jacket obviously....instead of using a collet chuck....I was like.....Ummmm What THE? And all the time knowing a projectile at supersonic will have air seperation at the base and the base profile only matters upon the subsonic transition phase....I was like Ok I gotta keep watching to see this guys BS claim on a 1000 yd group. 5/8" But even then....my engineering mind was still trying to figure out the reason for the obvious results since we all try different things to Eek that extra .001" out of our groups. Bore lapping, bullet coating, muzzle crowns, blah blah. BOOOM freakin got me....April Fools. Very well done.
@John Beige YOU NEED A COLLET FOR THAT JOB ON A GOOD QUALITY LATHE BUT ON A PRECISION MAC-IT WOULD GIVE GOOD RESULTS THEN WEIGH AND NOT GET THEM OUT OF ROUNDNESS OR DEFORM .MAKE THEM FROM SOLID STOCK AND USE A CNC THREDING MAC WITH COLLET --MAKES A DAM GOOD BULLET IF YOU SET IT UP RIGHT THE HOLE WILL STABLES THE ROUND--- A DAM GOOD MACHINEST CAN MAKE A DAM BABY HELLO--NOW THAT A DAM GOOD MACHINEST THOUGH
I love this. As a full time machinist and a machine shop at home. HF HIGH precision lathe ??, 3 jaw chuck with no jaws ??, crank down with both hands ??. I would imagine within the first few minutes people were ready to rush out to HF and spend money. On a serious note, Sierra designed their precision bullets with a small hole in the nose and boat tail. A small hole/cavity at the base. MM...maybe Erik has stumbled onto a top tier super secret, known to only those at the highest level, revealed to them by visitors from planet X0. A T-Shirt would be nice.
I wanted more precision than your lathe provided so I chose and Harbor Freight 3/8" drill with a hand chuck. It was a 3 jaw too so I figured it would be really good. My rubber palm gardening gloves held onto the spade bit really well when I gouged the base of the bullets out.
I like to drill mine completely through. It lowers the weight so the projectile falls slower (better for long range) and the tube shape helps it stabilize in the air.
I'm surprised that you didn't tell us about powder grain reshaping tools. Those things are amazing. I'm glad that your mentioned "deform to perform" though. You're very generous with info.
I really knew something was up when you sd the three jaw is the most precise there is. I am watching you do this and I'm thinking how in the crap does that make a difference. You had me all the way to the end Good one!
This actually makes a perfect seal against the rifling during powder explosion 🤔 thus aligning the projectile in a very defined concentricity while jumping even into an eroded barrel 😳
Any machinist know it was a joke when he said a 3 jaw is better then a 4 jaw. And yes i can see guys now drilling their bullet out and thinking they will be shooting as good as Eric lmao.
I’m calling B.S. on the three jaw. They come with the lathe because they are cheaper to make. For precision applications use a six jaw or a collet. Four jaw chucks are used for awkward to hold parts. Yes you can get precision out of them if you want to take the time and indicate them every which way from Sunday.
Totally had me until the end when you mentioned it. LOL I should've known when you started off by saying the HB lathe was a high precision lathe, then talking about how a four jaw chuck wasn't as good as a three jaw. Finally, I kept thinking about how the yellow dots covered the holes, thinking he could've just put dots on the target, but your reputation kept me from questioning it. GOOD ONE!
Awesome Erik. It reminds me of some of the early cast bullets that had a similar concave butt of the bullet. I always wondered those cast bullets, although they were very fat with poor BCs, wouldn't enhance the accuracy of the shot.
That was good. When you started to crank down on the 3 jaw, I was losing you there (3 jaws marking the bullets? hahahha). Then the 3/4" dots over the target, ya, sure, all bs. The ending is the best. That was too cool, great sense of humor.
Couldn't wait till the end of the video to try this it worked great All my one shot groups out of my 6.5 creedmoor measured 264 best consistency I've ever had
You had me til you showed the HFT lathe...at that point I figured out where this was headed lol. For some reason it did not occur to me that it's 4/1. Nicely done Erik.
I found if I do this process Erik shared plus I shoot a perfect 0.51875" group, at 1k yards even if move my reticle I still end up with a 200-20X score. It's like impossible to miss!! Neck sizing was the other key, and using battery acid to clean my grooves. That was prob the hardest part, only getting the acid on the groove portion.
Catching up here as I just found your channel the other day and decided to start at the beginning. As soon as you said the 3-jaw is the most accurate I figured something was up.... then noticed the date :)
Oh man you really had me Erik dang you should have seen what I was really going to write for a comment. Good one Erik stay safe God bless and have a great Easter weekend...
By the way, I wonder what those Bullets really did. It would be interesting. I remember you concrete slab April Fools joke. You are real good at keeping a straight face.
Actually here's the funny thing. Americans are years behind. The Italians have a patent on what he's joking about and has been used successfully. So to answer your question, you have to do it with longer bullets but it does perform and theres several tricks to add to what has done. Just it's not financially acceptable for production use.
Bruh. The people that watch this in a few months from now, and don't check the date it was published, is going to be hilarious. But in all seriousness, I was genuinely curious to see how these shoot... Once the gas entered that simple, it would probably blow the skirts out lol
Very funny Eric, but now can we all bow our heads for the poor little freedom seeds that tragically lost their chance to fulfill their destiny and hit the X ring 😢🙏
I will be honest, you got me for a few minutes !! I was thinking maybe the rear of the bullet will fly differently if there is a void, but then I thought, wouldn't the bullet manufactures know this, Eric isn't that smart :)
Assuming bullet get rear presure and swells rear part of the bullet to expand a tight fit in the barrel as flys out to the end of barrel forming a prefect fit. Would be wise to set up gel block to caught bullet to see how it formed at that distance. Very interesting and even more interesting to see what the bullet looks like after being shot. Kiitos to you dude
Holy Crap! You're the barndominium guy! You shoot too? Heck even more of a reason to get a quote from you when I get ready to build. You have some great barndo's.
You should work around the chuck and tighten each jaw screw equally. You should also turn the jaws before clamping the bullet, to minimize concentricity and runout.
I just watched this 10/24/22 I'm thinking to myself the whole time, WTF? You gotta be kidding me. What about concentric balance, what about the weight of the five projectiles, what about the CG, ect...Then near the end I'm like this guy has the driest sense of humor and is just F'ing with people. Good job!
You had me right up to “harbor freight and precision”
Hey, the harbor freight lathe had precision written right on it.
@@rustynut1967
Exactly! 😁
yeah "harbor freight" and "precision" are oxymorons for sure
Take a look a Clicksprings videos if you seriously think the 7x14 isnt capable of precision work. Only non machinists would claim it isnt. The 7x14 (wherever you buy it from) is quite capable, and is as precise as YOU are. Funny video....but c'mon guys.
lol me too...when he said "High precision lathe" and went to harbor freight... I was like ok buddy but hey I'll keep watching.....
But then...when he said use a 3 jaw because they're more accurate than a 4 Jaw....when any of the best 3 jaws will inherently have .003" IR....Ok this guy may have a couple lathes but doesn't know much about machining.
THEN....when he cranked down on the bullet...with two hands distorting the jacket obviously....instead of using a collet chuck....I was like.....Ummmm What THE?
And all the time knowing a projectile at supersonic will have air seperation at the base and the base profile only matters upon the subsonic transition phase....I was like Ok I gotta keep watching to see this guys BS claim on a 1000 yd group.
5/8"
But even then....my engineering mind was still trying to figure out the reason for the obvious results since we all try different things to Eek that extra .001" out of our groups. Bore lapping, bullet coating, muzzle crowns, blah blah.
BOOOM freakin got me....April Fools.
Very well done.
I wonder how many people aren’t gonna watch this to the end, or just not figure it out, and start drilling a bunch of bullets... 😂
after last years concrete video I was waiting for this
I was all in until he stated "Deform to perform"! LOL
I was like WTF, but then i did remeber that it is the April first :D
The first clue it was a joke is when you said to use a precision lathe like the one from harbor freight
@@zerocool46 I have to admit, I was scratching my head on the Harbor Freight lathe as well, but I still took the bait.
I was sceptical when you said Harbor Freight "Precision," but when you cranked down on that 3 jaw chuck, I remembered what day it was. Very funny!
I'm watching a 2 years later not on April Fools. It reminds me of the concrete video and how good he is at satire
Now I have the perfect excuse to tell my wife why I need to buy a lathe. Thanks Erik!!! 🤣
Harbor Freight "Precision." 🤣🤣
@@J-1911
Quality tools.
Or even a long range rifle set up...
@John Beige YOU NEED A COLLET FOR THAT JOB ON A GOOD QUALITY LATHE BUT ON A PRECISION MAC-IT WOULD GIVE GOOD RESULTS THEN WEIGH AND NOT GET THEM OUT OF ROUNDNESS OR DEFORM .MAKE THEM FROM SOLID STOCK AND USE A CNC THREDING MAC WITH COLLET --MAKES A DAM GOOD BULLET IF YOU SET IT UP RIGHT THE HOLE WILL STABLES THE ROUND--- A DAM GOOD MACHINEST CAN MAKE A DAM BABY HELLO--NOW THAT A DAM GOOD MACHINEST THOUGH
You and me, both
I love this. As a full time machinist and a machine shop at home. HF HIGH precision lathe ??, 3 jaw chuck with no jaws ??, crank down with both hands ??. I would imagine within the first few minutes people were ready to rush out to HF and spend money. On a serious note, Sierra designed their precision bullets with a small hole in the nose and boat tail. A small hole/cavity at the base. MM...maybe Erik has stumbled onto a top tier super secret, known to only those at the highest level, revealed to them by visitors from planet X0. A T-Shirt would be nice.
He never heard of a collet chuck. Machinable any size you want and it will run perfectly concentric.
This is gold. I literally laughed out loud at 4am... woke people up. The bullet in the 3 jaw. OMG
You have got to make a “Deform to Perform” t-shirt.!
Oh dang....laughing hard!!!
"Deform to preform."
My motto is
"IT DOES WHAT IT'S TOLD!"
I wanted more precision than your lathe provided so I chose and Harbor Freight 3/8" drill with a hand chuck. It was a 3 jaw too so I figured it would be really good. My rubber palm gardening gloves held onto the spade bit really well when I gouged the base of the bullets out.
Nice one Eric. Easily up there with Daniels "weigh your primers"
and Hornadys bullet cam.
LOL Best April Fools joke I've ever seen!!
You got me...Hook, Line, Sinker, and Bobber. Glad I watched till the end. LOL
Me too!
I like to drill mine completely through. It lowers the weight so the projectile falls slower (better for long range) and the tube shape helps it stabilize in the air.
They make a cool whistling sound too
@@fentonpainter7907 You are a man of understanding and refinement.
I'm surprised that you didn't tell us about powder grain reshaping tools. Those things are amazing. I'm glad that your mentioned "deform to perform" though. You're very generous with info.
I really knew something was up when you sd the three jaw is the most precise there is. I am watching you do this and I'm thinking how in the crap does that make a difference. You had me all the way to the end Good one!
This actually makes a perfect seal against the rifling during powder explosion 🤔 thus aligning the projectile in a very defined concentricity while jumping even into an eroded barrel 😳
Think mini-ball.
Wow that was insane Eric most people would have kept that to themselves my hats off to you sir for sharing that 🍻SKOL
I figured out it was an April fools thing with the 3 jaw being better than the 4 jaw.
I was thinking the same thing - what about a collett chuck?! And precision Harbor Freight! Haha!😜
Any machinist know it was a joke when he said a 3 jaw is better then a 4 jaw. And yes i can see guys now drilling their bullet out and thinking they will be shooting as good as Eric lmao.
I’m calling B.S. on the three jaw. They come with the lathe because they are cheaper to make. For precision applications use a six jaw or a collet. Four jaw chucks are used for awkward to hold parts. Yes you can get precision out of them if you want to take the time and indicate them every which way from Sunday.
JUST SAVE ON SET UP TIME AND ----O
@@stevelessard6216 JUST GET A CNC THREDER MACHINE [PRECISION-ONE THEY MAKE GOOD BULLETS FROM SOLID STOCK
You got me Eric, real good, I thought something was weird when you said Harbor Freight lathe but I was still buying it all the way to the end!
You had me for the first few seconds. You really are sick. Love it! Favorite line: Deform to perform. Lol!
Totally had me until the end when you mentioned it. LOL I should've known when you started off by saying the HB lathe was a high precision lathe, then talking about how a four jaw chuck wasn't as good as a three jaw. Finally, I kept thinking about how the yellow dots covered the holes, thinking he could've just put dots on the target, but your reputation kept me from questioning it. GOOD ONE!
You were busted with the three jaw accuracy comment.lol Great laugh.
That’s when I was like wtf is he on about and came to the comments to realize it’s April 1st. Now I gotta go watch the rest of video
Excellent 2 for 2, keep them coming.
I loved The "precision lathe" with a 3 jaw chuck bit.
This one almost topped the Hornady Bullet Cam joke a few years back.🤣🤣👍 Nice one Eric, 🤭
That Hornady video was awesome!
Awesome Erik. It reminds me of some of the early cast bullets that had a similar concave butt of the bullet. I always wondered those cast bullets, although they were very fat with poor BCs, wouldn't enhance the accuracy of the shot.
Thanks for sharing the information. You are greatly appreciated!
Just ordered a TSUGAMI B0265-II Swiss lathe. Can't wait to test this out myself. Thanks Eric
Thought it was to good to be true. Even Eric wouldn’t give away THAT kind of secret.
I knew this was an April fools joke the second you considered your Harbor Freight lathe a precision instrument... Thanks Erik! Had a good laugh
Great content. Most would not share this. Thanks for sharing
Man next year, Erik's gonna show us how to curve bullets midflight like in the movie Wanted. 🤣
You can actually cure bullets mid air
dude don't get my hopes up. haha
That was good. When you started to crank down on the 3 jaw, I was losing you there (3 jaws marking the bullets? hahahha). Then the 3/4" dots over the target, ya, sure, all bs. The ending is the best. That was too cool, great sense of humor.
Couldn't wait till the end of the video to try this it worked great All my one shot groups out of my 6.5 creedmoor measured 264 best consistency I've ever had
Genius. Loved it
You had me til you showed the HFT lathe...at that point I figured out where this was headed lol. For some reason it did not occur to me that it's 4/1. Nicely done Erik.
you had me going for a bit LoL.. I almost went and drilled out some bullets 😂
😂
"Key word right there"
*"Precision"*
Ha! Thanks for the laugh Erik
Excellent. Thanks brother.
Finally looked at the date. Good One
Thanks for sharing your secret, I am going to try this along with neck sizing, going for a half inch group.
I found if I do this process Erik shared plus I shoot a perfect 0.51875" group, at 1k yards even if move my reticle I still end up with a 200-20X score. It's like impossible to miss!! Neck sizing was the other key, and using battery acid to clean my grooves. That was prob the hardest part, only getting the acid on the groove portion.
I forgot what day it was for about, the first 30 seconds and man was I confused.
You got me. I watched this on April 6th and was taking notes and thinking of ways to use my CNC machine to crank out lots of modified bullets.. (-:
This stuff is golden.
Oh My Goodness, more magic self leveling powder!!!!🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Harbor Freight "Precision" :D
Catching up here as I just found your channel the other day and decided to start at the beginning. As soon as you said the 3-jaw is the most accurate I figured something was up.... then noticed the date :)
you almost got me, but when I looked at the date 3/4 way through the video I began to wonder.
Very Very well done
"First you need a high precision lathe...."
**Shows Harbor Freight lathe.***
No seriously man how did you do it.
But it says "precision" ...
@@LeverPhile
Checks out.
Lmao,, I’m looking for my waders now,, the crap is getting deep. “The key to success.. is precisely that!”
Yeah, chest high waders ...
Oh man you really had me Erik dang you should have seen what I was really going to write for a comment.
Good one Erik stay safe God bless and have a great Easter weekend...
Best one yet! I had forgotten
LOL!
So much wrong with this lol.
When he measured the stickers....not the holes?
I knew something was SURELY up lol!
well played Mr Cortina! :)
The words Harbor freight and precision don’t seem to go together.
I refer to them as "Hobo Freight".
That was awesome! As soon as I saw the harbor freight “precision” lathe LOL
Well done Sir, very impressive!
April Fools. 😁
Reaming us all a new ballistic A-hole for April Fools Day, Eric?
By the way, I wonder what those Bullets really did. It would be interesting.
I remember you concrete slab April Fools joke. You are real good at keeping a straight face.
I think he backed off of this one because of that concrete slab joke. A TON of people were mad at him for months after that.
Thanks for sharing your secret, I am going to try this along with neck sizing, going for a half inch group.
Actually here's the funny thing. Americans are years behind. The Italians have a patent on what he's joking about and has been used successfully. So to answer your question, you have to do it with longer bullets but it does perform and theres several tricks to add to what has done. Just it's not financially acceptable for production use.
O that was great, loved it!!! Perfect
hahahahaha - hooked me are reeled me in - good one....right up to the very end...good job and excellent delivery.
Ah yes. The "Hollow Back" phenomena was only recently declassified due to its use in those stealth torpedoes that can carry a pair of Navy Rangers.
Bruh. The people that watch this in a few months from now, and don't check the date it was published, is going to be hilarious.
But in all seriousness, I was genuinely curious to see how these shoot...
Once the gas entered that simple, it would probably blow the skirts out lol
I was shaking my head all the way through 😁.
Damn you sold that one! I was online looking for scenars while listening to your video.
Almost like a reverse hollow point. This has to be an April fool’s, and then I made it to the end.
I almost couldn't take it, then I heard the motto "deform to perform" and I couldn't stop laughing
LOL my BS meter was going off like crazy. Glad I stayed till the end :D
That is crazy accuracy!
Very funny Eric, but now can we all bow our heads for the poor little freedom seeds that tragically lost their chance to fulfill their destiny and hit the X ring 😢🙏
Happy April fool's day
You had me going but I'm easy. Thanks for all you do
Hey buddy 👋 this trick was used in 1942 with German snipers on the 7x57 cartridges 😮
Oh wow, I totally spaced that one. I was ready to give up on shooting all together halfway through this video.
I really love your April 1st posts
Awesome video 😊
If I didn't see the date this video was uploaded, I would have left an ass-blistering reply.
Well done, buddy!
Had me going. I was remembering reading how hollow base works better with something, don't recall what it is.
Damn, you figured out my secret and put it on the internet. I have been using the "deform to perform" method for decades. Doggone your hide!
I will be honest, you got me for a few minutes !! I was thinking maybe the rear of the bullet will fly differently if there is a void, but then I thought, wouldn't the bullet manufactures know this, Eric isn't that smart :)
Well played sir, well played!
How crazy is that? Cortina crazy!!
Assuming bullet get rear presure and swells rear part of the bullet to expand a tight fit in the barrel as flys out to the end of barrel forming a prefect fit. Would be wise to set up gel block to caught bullet to see how it formed at that distance. Very interesting and even more interesting to see what the bullet looks like after being shot. Kiitos to you dude
"See: it's an official target. That's how you know I shot this group at 1,000 yards." Priceless.
Well played Eric...well played.
Holy Crap! You're the barndominium guy! You shoot too? Heck even more of a reason to get a quote from you when I get ready to build. You have some great barndo's.
You should work around the chuck and tighten each jaw screw equally. You should also turn the jaws before clamping the bullet, to minimize concentricity and runout.
I remember his concrete pad joke. I saw that twinkle in his eye and knew it was going to be good. Way to go EC!
😂
Erik. Just admiring the pool table gun rack. Send em straight send em fast. Thanks for the vids.
Almost got me.... Good job!!!!
Man I took the hook the line the sinker and the whole rod with this.
Good one you got me good !
You got me all the way to the end! It's August, dang it...
@01:32 - I laughed out loud when you said "This is what I use; I use my harbor freight ..." I had a feeling you were not being serious.
Eric...you are soooo Baaaadddd !!!!! . I would like to know how many people went out and bought a #4 Center drill.
Actually, something like this might work for Carcanos; using the right Bullet, to expand the .264" bullet into the ~ 268" Grooves.
I just watched this 10/24/22 I'm thinking to myself the whole time, WTF? You gotta be kidding me. What about concentric balance, what about the weight of the five projectiles, what about the CG, ect...Then near the end I'm like this guy has the driest sense of humor and is just F'ing with people. Good job!
Awesome shooting
That was perfect!! Awesome! 😂🤣
I have never been more relieved to have been fooled xD
That is hysterical!!!🤣🤣