Bravo; easily the best Loupedeck video I've come across. Perfectly executed with the little window showing what your hands were doing while we see the screen.
For those of you on the fence or saying a keyboard shortcut is faster; I bought and use this device on the reg. to color-correct in capture one (NOT lightroom). It is MUCH faster once you memorize the layout and use muscle memory to manipulate the controls (just like you do on your camera). The primary advantage to the controller not being displayed in this infantile demo, is that you can make multiple adjustments simultaneously, enter crop and crop photo with your mouse, exit crop, all without moving our mouse to various sliders. It really is faster once you get the hang of it. This moronic demo of course makes it seem slower- but trust me, once you get used to it, if you have any tactile skills whatsoever, it is far faster using the loupedeck.
Every time someone posts a video about how to edit photos I never see such devices on the table, and yet they have one special video where they always claim that that thing changed their life.
I think that most people will start with just mouse and keyboard. So tutorials are based from that. Then you have all the people who are like, that's a paid ad because theyre using such and such product. So they don't want all the flack and not use them in the tutorials.
@@munkykng416 the moment he said that 250 euros surprisingly low for such a tool... speaks for itself. Midi solutions are like 60 euros. And are as goog if not better.
@@Dmitryzakharov I use a Korg nanokontrol to do just this as a companion to my keyboard and mouse the loop deck, not the plus version,130 dollars(110 euros) on bhphoto. Still priced really well, if I just wanted something to work right out of the box.
@@munkykng416 Yes, if you need something out of the box and have no time to do setup as well as money is not an issue, then and only then that thing is an option. So, I just find his review not honest to the level where I and others feel that it is another paid review/video. I first borrowed loop deck from a colleague at work to try it out. Then I watched some other fellow on youtube where he sets up a midi, that was the moment I realized I liked midi more, even without having it. I got one set it up in an hour and just kept loving it.
@@munkykng416 Thanks for that info. Do you use the nanokontrol or the nanokontrol2? Are there others you'd recommend checking out? I currently use a Nostromo gamepad and mouse and that definitely helped to speed my editing time but I like the idea of having knobs/sliders to focus on the image while making those adjustments rather than on the sliders on screen.
To be honest I don't think it is faster but I love it because the dials change the settings in such small increments and you can avoid +70 on dehaze in one click
It is so much faster than going through menus and change sliders. I can say that I am more than twice as fast editing with Loupedeck than with the mouse and changing sliders.
One of the great things about the nobs and stuff, is that it feels more “intuitive” if that makes sense, and going back and forward for small adjustments “feels” better Imo. Many video Professional colourist use DaVinci panels which have similar functionality. Speed is only one factor. I don’t own one, but definitely interested.
A couple of years ago I was looking at this and palette. Palette was not a real option for me, mostly for show. The loop deck feels functional and pro and at 130 it's a good price. Then I found a free plugin for midi controllers. Specifically the Korg nanokontrol 2. I would have to map the buttons, knobs, and sliders myself but it was really simple. I use it 80% of the time. Controllers like these really make the editing experience more enjoyable when things start to get less enjoyable.
Totally agree! I use the free Midi2lr app with a Behringer X-Touch Mini. Way more controls than the Loupedeck and the dials even remember the settings from picture to picture. Best part the whole setup was $49 and a bit of my time to configure it.
@@MrGoreff yeah it was designed for music in mind. But it works really well. It's more compact than the loop deck, but there are some things I wish it had, like infinite scroll on the knobs and faders, which the loop deck has. I use it as a keyboard companion rather than a replacement while editing.
@@GeraldBertramPhotography I feel like the loop deck hits the price really well for a ready out of the box item. But money is money so I went with the midi controller.
@@munkykng416 It's a little steep of a price for me but I hear you. One of the reasons I chose the X-Touch mini was that it had infinite scroll on the knobs which sealed the deal for me. That and the software is crazy customizable.
I've had this in my Amazon cart for a few weeks now. Now that I see you working with it I get a better visual on how it would fit in my workflow. All the twisting and turning dials seems like it would get old quickly. If I want shadows at +75, I just click 3/4 of the way up the shadows slider. 1 click vs twist twist twist twist. I don't mean that in a negative way, but you just saved me $250! I really appreciate it. Someone else will probably love this product though, it seems like the company put a lot of thought into it. I just can't see all that twisting having a positive affect to my workflow.
Ignoring the childish comments on here. I love the video. I have just purchased this and love it. It has made editing so much quicker and easier with all the controls visable and easy to use. Worth the price ...
It's such a shame you can't have and show genuine enthusiasm for a product during a 'live' unboxing without the majority of commenters screaming 'paid ad' :/
I've owned a Loopedeck+ for 6 months. Everything it can do, you can already do with a mouse. So if you're comfortable with a mouse, no need to change. But there are a few places where it really helps. When you're going through a ton of pictures, rating them and flagging them is A LOT easier. The other place where it's helped me is that I have some weird OCD thing where if a setting looks great at 22, my brain says it needs to be a 20 or 25. 20 or 25 may not look as good, but that's what it needs to be. I KNOW it's stupid, but that's how it is. I can close the panel and just make the picture look its best. Also, it does reduce time searching through menu's and clicking. I would change the individual color rollers, they click and that annoys me. it should just be a smooth roller. Also, the placement of the buttons/knobs could be better. But that's going to vary by person. Overall, I'm not disappointed in the purchase and I use it every time I edit. However, it's not a necessity.
"The other place where it's helped me is that I have some weird OCD thing where if a setting looks great at 22, my brain says it needs to be a 20 or 25. 20 or 25 may not look as good, but that's what it needs to be." Glad I'm not the only one... I find myself just clicking and typing in the number in LR to get it to a 0 or 5... as your saying since I got this device editing full screen and don't even go back to check anymore once they are done I move on in full screen.
SO happy I'm not the only one with this type of OCD! This is the exact reason why I'm considering purchasing a loupe deck or some sort of midi controller for editing my photos.
Most professional editors anyway have two screens and LR has this dual screen mode to achieve exactly that. I think the best part of it is that you can keep your eyes on the image instead of jumping around between sliders and image, but then again, that's what keyboard shortcuts are for.
It's a super handy tool. Use it a lot. Much faster than a keyboard or mouse. I'm a pro. The slowness has nothing to do with the Loupedeck but with the software and the computer you use.
I see a lot of people saying that this may not speedup your work flow and that Fstoppers is paid to hype up the product. Here is the back story behind Loupedeck. Loupedeck was a crowd funded project on Indiegogo couple of year back. The idea was great and they go funded within 3 days. By the end of the 1 month long crowd funding, they hit a wooping 400% mark. How do I know this? Well, I was one of the backers of the project because I could see huge potential on how this could speedup my wedding workflow. Been using this for the past 2 yrs and I can't see myself going back to scrolling up and down on the develop module to make changes. I should also admit that I haven't used the keyboard shortcuts. Here is how I use my loupedeck. - Apply my basic preset on shortlisted pics. - Make all sorts of adjustments. - Perform local adjustments (using mouse in combination with loupedeck) - Export. It did make a huge difference and speed up my workflow drastically. Oh btw, the one shown here is the Loupledeck+ (version 2) I own the 1st version they'd crowd funded. The one thing that I don't like to do in the loupedeck is to provide star rating (which is how I usually shortlist photos) I do that in my keyboard as the rectangular buttons on my 1st version of loupedeck aren't fluid like a keyboard) From the video, it looks like they've fixed the issue in loupedeck+ The other thing is with regards to the knobs. A slight hit on the knob could easily rotate them. (not roll but gets easily rotated) As you keep moving your hands here and there, it's possible to slightly bump into the knobs. From the video it's not really clear if loupdeck+ has solved this by providing a slight tension to the knobs. As the original loupedeck owner, I wouldn't be upgrading to loupedeck+ But I got to admit, this is completely changed how I used to process my photos.
It does not work with camera raw, but it does have some basic support for C1 and Aurora HDR. Also works with Premiere, After Effects, and some things in Photoshop (but that's weird).
Has Loupedeck created a Chart that one could use to enter all different options selected while setting the console up with the multiple function according to one's own workflow? That would make it easier to learn and remember all functions. The Quick Guide card is very basic and the download guide is rather complicated.
can you change the 'resolution' of the knob turns..? Meaning, can you adjust the amount the numbers increase/decrease with each of degree of turn of the knob so you can have finer control?
5:00 little heads up(im sure you do know) you don't need to manually reset to 0, just double click the setting name (exposure, clarity, whites etc) and it resets it to zero.
Okay. So all looks great. Was just waiting what would happen when you open to edit a panorama/merge in PhotoShop and hop on back into LR? Am taking it that it's transparent and you do not have to grab for a mouse/keyboard for PhotoShop and then Loupedeck and then PS, etc.? That it can apparently also work in Premier Pro implies that there's seamless integration throughout Adobe Suite?
Loupedeck+ supports Capture One, Lightroom, Photoshop, Premiere Pro, Aurora HDR, and After Effects currently. The driver is smart enough to realize what app is active and you can customize each app separately using the configuration tool.
Great review and information. I had one for a week and the down arrow was sticking so I sent it back. I have heard other users experience the same issue with the advance buttons. I felt the interface software was not intuitive.
I use this same one and the dials are speed sensitive. If you turn slow it very slowly adjusts the amount, and if you turn the same amount faster it goes more on the amount
What about brush, gradient, dodging/burning all the tools a landscape photographer uses in the workflow? Seems to limited for anything besides large batch editing.
Nice review - fleshes out the functionality alot... FWIW Ive found it makes editing less or a process and more enjoyable. Do agree with preference for more 'tactility' in the knobs...cheers
Maybe I don't have enough time on my hands to be super critical, but I don't find this to obviously be an ad. In any case, I'd consider stepping up to this from my X-TOUCH MINI and LrControl, which I really enjoy. (He did mentioned that he didn't know how much it costs, so that at least states that he didn't buy it with his own money.)
there's a bit of free software called Midi2LR, or something like that, that lets you use any midi controller with lightroom. Works well. I use it with another program, Lemur, which lets you build custom midi interfaces on your ipad (but it's tricky to do, steep learning curve.)
I would like to use it - BADLY! but I would like to know if I need a Special LOUPEDECK for Photoshop and another for Premiere-Pro (both CC 2019 curently). I am not using Lightroom, found that Bridge+Photoshop are working best for me. How about using it when in Adobe Camera Raw, is it supported? Best regards and many thnaks for the Great Tutorial, good job! Nissan
The single Loupedeck+ supports Capture One, Lightroom, Photoshop, Premiere Pro, Aurora HDR, and After Effects currently. The driver is smart enough to realize what app is active and you can customize each app separately using the configuration tool.
Hi Lee, This is one of the best product reviews I`ve ever seen on YT. I`m interested in buying one of these, having had the Logitech Craft keyboard for a while where the `Crown` wheel which you can use for editing things in the Basic panel in LRC only, is so damned sensitive, its almost unusable. You need to have the lightest of touches to use this keyboard and that `Crown` wheel for editing its almost pointless, although nevertheless a good quality keyboard in every other respect. So now even 3 years after you bought out this video I`m off to buy a Loupedeck Plus. Thanks and cheers Lee from a UK subscriber.
I think it's a great product! For me, I don't know if it is a paid ad or not...how would I...I don't care. If it is I think that's great for you guys! Otherwise, you wouldn't be able to provide all this great information. Good for you!!
I would love this keyboard for editing my daily photos but the $350 cdn price tag is hefty for a few buttons and knobs. Especially when you can do the same thing on a kb and mouse. I'd maybe pay $200 for the plus version since it'll work in premiere as well.
Loupedeck+ supports Capture One, Lightroom, Photoshop, Premiere Pro, After Effects. The driver is smart enough to realize what app is active and you can customize each app separately using the configuration tool.
Skin color tool: FN+Temperature and FN+Saturation This tool uses raw calibration to adjust the saturation in the red channel, which has an effect on the redness in skin tone. Rotate FN+Temperature to adjust skin hue between yellow and red color temperatures Rotate FN+Saturation to increase or decrease skin saturation
Do you know pros aren't using it? Honestly, most "pros" I know are outsourcing most of their edits. I did that the last 5 years of my wedding business. -P
Lol Lee you crack me up! Why are you going backwards on technology? More equipment to carry and honestly, I think I can beat you if you use the keyboard. Don’t be a dinosaur 🦖 😂
@@herreraid2010 Just watch Tony Northup or any other photographer who is passionate enough to do his own edits and he will tell you it's nice for a moment but then you go back to keyboard+mouse. They just advertise this stuff cause they get it for free mate. Chill out!
Practically replaces the keyboard for everything, and I use a mouse and tablet along side my loupedeck. Small keyboard, loupedeck, tablet (which is also my mouse mat)... fits fine People who think that this wont speed up your workflow havent used it - or havent given it enough of a chance. Depends how you edit though really. I do a lot of individual edits on my pictures, and I use brushes a lot. For that, this vs the keyboard is no contest.
Does this work with other editors that have the same kind of controls? YES! Adobe Lightroom, Premiere Pro Compatible Skylum Aurora HDR Compatible I wonder if they will make a driver for Luminar...
Take a look at midi2LR. This software makes every midi controller a Light Room controller. Especially cool if you have something like a Mackie (or clone) controller with motorized sliders.
Who cares about lightroom? Is that software not compatible with all software that uses keyboard controls? If not, why not? If all it is doing in converting midi controls to keyboard commands then it should work with all software.
You cannot access Brush tool and some other tools. The Control Dial turns the picture about 5 degree at least. If you need to straighten just by 1 degree, it would not work. There are many limitations for $250.
So many people are in the comments saying “You can just do all of that with your mouse and Keyboard!” Yeah but using midi controllers are a workflow choice for a lot of industry professionals . Professional film colorists use midi controllers for color grading. Music producers use midi controller for their DAWs. It’s not that you can’t do it with just your mouse and keyboard but it just feels better doing it using physical buttons. Having something like a Loupedeck could speed up your workflow tremendously once you figured everything out.
people who have nothing good to say about Loupedeck either havent used it (most likely) or havent got used to it yet. There is simply no doubt that using tools like this for any application speeds up workflow. How dramatically is down to how people edit and how fluent they get with either method... For me its significantly faster than using the mouse and keyboard.
I would love to have one of these but the question is does it work with anything other than Photoshop like Capture One.....Photo Direct just to name a couple
Loupedeck+ supports Capture One, Lightroom, Photoshop, Premiere Pro, After Effects. The driver is smart enough to realize what app is active and you can customize each app separately using the configuration tool.
Good morning I would like to know if it is also available for Photoshop 2019 on Mac and windows Thank you very much and I await your answer friendly Thodoris Siorikis
It works just in Lightroom and Adobe Premiere... people converted it for some other softwares but I didn't see Photoshop or after effects which I try to set up...
250 dollars for a midi daw controller? No, thanks... Korg Nanokontrol 2 (x2) + Midi2Lr makes the service for less than half... The great advantage is the system is ready to use, and with Midi2Lr you must set it as you like. Loupedeck should have way far more buttons and knobs, for the price. Maybe in a future revision...
@@kevinyounger7854 Well...i have Nanokontrol 2, but i think there is also something similar from Behringer. And this brand has also the BCF controllers that include motorized faders. And there is one only with knobs. You should search for midi daw controller, and seek in the wiki for compatibility.
How smooth is nanokontrol knobs and sliders? In LR for example whit mouse I always grab histogram to adjust basic things as slider lower are too sensitive and goes too crazy for fine tune.
Seems like they just use pirated stuff... you know the thing that they said they don't do ^^. A friend of mine has a pirated windows and he has this message for a while now. I have the fully paid version completely up to date and no messages at all
HelloImBen not really. You can do a good amount of the stuff like rating, flagging, exposure, but you can’t do the things like rotating the image, HSL, etc.
Sure you can but knobs seem like a serious time saver. For example, if you want to use the arrows to adjust exposure you can do that by clicking the exposure slider and tapping the arrows, then if you want to make a quick sharpening adjustment? Well, you will have to use your mouse scroll down to the details panel, open it, click the sharpening slider to adjust the sharpness with arrows. With this tool, just turn the knobs and you move on. This is incredible! I shoot sports and some games I can have 1200 to 2000 files to cull! I'm buying this for sure.
How does a keyboard adjust all the different things that the knobs and dials do on the Loupedeck? Sure, the star rating buttons are just straight replication of keyboard buttons, but the dials/knobs are not.
Agreed. I feel like a lot of the people who are impressed by this haven't learned all the shortcuts. Seems way faster, and less moving my hand all over the place to new buttons and wheels.
Listen there are some keys that are the same as keyboard short cuts, agreed. Tell me the shortcut that can adjust your red channel saturation as fast as the wheel? I'll wait...
Of course there must be some kind of benefits when using this otherwise this product would not make sense and not have made you guys defend it. For my use case, in which I heavily rely on mouse and keyboard inputs, having this would not speed up the editing process. No, the keyboard cannot fine tune the red channel saturation but once you have become familiar with the editing modules, it does not take more than 1-2 seconds to find the slider for that. If your editing process is fully covered by this device, then good for you. Some people tend to do more than just turning knobs when editing photos in which a mouse and keyboard combination is way more efficient.Try changing crop ratios quickly and most importantly, try adding guides in transform. Good luck with that.
Just purchased one myself. Just looks so much more easier, nothing worse sat at a computer messing around moving sliders with a mouse etc and going through all other taps etc when you got like a 1000+ images to go through.
Did Loupedeck fix the problem with turning a know resulting in 100 action events in the history tab, one for each increment, rendering the history tab useless? According to a review at BH, they ignored people asking about it and denied the problem exists.
I know this was posted two years and and most the comments as well but for those saying it's a paid ad had obviously not watched any other reviews. He missed out on a huge feature about all the custom buttons because he didn't use it for a few weeks before hand like he said. Also how it works with photoshop and a few other programs he didn't mention. An ad would have touched on all these things.
Awesome board but a Behringer X-touch Mini is a very capable board for a fraction of the price. Yes it will require some set up. NOTE: There is a issue with some of the features when Adobe did the big update but it still works well for us poor folk.
Midi2Lr did this ages ago... been using midi devices for years in LR for a fraction of the cost of this deck. I Donate to the programmers here and there. I have 32 knobs, every LR slider i could need programmed in. 32 buttons programmed with presets, and keyboard shortcuts.. down side is you need to program the buttons yourself. Takes about an hour. It has never crashed, it is lighting fast, and every LR update it still works. Midi2LR all day!
I'd love one but your review has a big flaw that you admit you are not a big LR user and the review is on LR. For someone who use used to KB shortcuts with mouse on LR, I am unsure whether this will actually be beneficial. ps Y is the before and After button.
I think this is an excellent video and well executed, but totally agree that that's the one major issue. I know all my shortcuts so I don't know if tactile knobs vs mousing alone is enough.
11:41 Why do you need dual monitors for editing? With loupedeck you can do a fullscreen edit even on your (tiny) 15 inch laptop screen. (no offense - just a comparison to a 34 or bigger desktop screen) Check out my quick video : th-cam.com/video/OhSpREi8Xj0/w-d-xo.html Loupedeck is cool! Totally agree with everything else in your video Lee.
My biggest concern is that Adobe adds new sliders and makes constant layout improvements. That leads me to think that the Loupedeck may quickly become obsolete. At $170 to $250, that is a big investment that may not payoff over the long term. Dehaze has become a key adjustment and I do not see any way to assign that. Thanks for the review.
In the year I've had my loupedeck(s) they have constantly updated the drivers and configuration tool to match Adobe updates. Dehaze was the very first slider I mapped to the C1 dial (D1 in loupedeck+).
If this would be cheaper I will definitely buy one for wedding and event photography. But I don't see how I could use this effectively in photoshop. Mainly for lightroom it is too expensive.
I hate editing, maybe it’s because of my Apple track pad thing. This looks like something I would enjoy using, will definitely be adding to my wishlist.
Bravo; easily the best Loupedeck video I've come across. Perfectly executed with the little window showing what your hands were doing while we see the screen.
Thanks!
super random but are you using the Aputure 120d for the lighting in this video?
For those of you on the fence or saying a keyboard shortcut is faster; I bought and use this device on the reg. to color-correct in capture one (NOT lightroom). It is MUCH faster once you memorize the layout and use muscle memory to manipulate the controls (just like you do on your camera). The primary advantage to the controller not being displayed in this infantile demo, is that you can make multiple adjustments simultaneously, enter crop and crop photo with your mouse, exit crop, all without moving our mouse to various sliders. It really is faster once you get the hang of it. This moronic demo of course makes it seem slower- but trust me, once you get used to it, if you have any tactile skills whatsoever, it is far faster using the loupedeck.
Exactly :-)
Every time someone posts a video about how to edit photos I never see such devices on the table, and yet they have one special video where they always claim that that thing changed their life.
I think that most people will start with just mouse and keyboard. So tutorials are based from that. Then you have all the people who are like, that's a paid ad because theyre using such and such product. So they don't want all the flack and not use them in the tutorials.
@@munkykng416 the moment he said that 250 euros surprisingly low for such a tool... speaks for itself. Midi solutions are like 60 euros. And are as goog if not better.
@@Dmitryzakharov I use a Korg nanokontrol to do just this as a companion to my keyboard and mouse the loop deck, not the plus version,130 dollars(110 euros) on bhphoto. Still priced really well, if I just wanted something to work right out of the box.
@@munkykng416 Yes, if you need something out of the box and have no time to do setup as well as money is not an issue, then and only then that thing is an option. So, I just find his review not honest to the level where I and others feel that it is another paid review/video. I first borrowed loop deck from a colleague at work to try it out. Then I watched some other fellow on youtube where he sets up a midi, that was the moment I realized I liked midi more, even without having it. I got one set it up in an hour and just kept loving it.
@@munkykng416 Thanks for that info. Do you use the nanokontrol or the nanokontrol2? Are there others you'd recommend checking out? I currently use a Nostromo gamepad and mouse and that definitely helped to speed my editing time but I like the idea of having knobs/sliders to focus on the image while making those adjustments rather than on the sliders on screen.
We have used it for a while now and it actually works.
To be honest I don't think it is faster but I love it because the dials change the settings in such small increments and you can avoid +70 on dehaze in one click
It is so much faster than going through menus and change sliders.
I can say that I am more than twice as fast editing with Loupedeck than with the mouse and changing sliders.
You can just type in the value lol, dont have to move the slider..
One of the great things about the nobs and stuff, is that it feels more “intuitive” if that makes sense, and going back and forward for small adjustments “feels” better Imo. Many video Professional colourist use DaVinci panels which have similar functionality. Speed is only one factor. I don’t own one, but definitely interested.
A couple of years ago I was looking at this and palette. Palette was not a real option for me, mostly for show. The loop deck feels functional and pro and at 130 it's a good price. Then I found a free plugin for midi controllers. Specifically the Korg nanokontrol 2. I would have to map the buttons, knobs, and sliders myself but it was really simple. I use it 80% of the time. Controllers like these really make the editing experience more enjoyable when things start to get less enjoyable.
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Totally agree! I use the free Midi2lr app with a Behringer X-Touch Mini. Way more controls than the Loupedeck and the dials even remember the settings from picture to picture. Best part the whole setup was $49 and a bit of my time to configure it.
@@MrGoreff yeah it was designed for music in mind. But it works really well. It's more compact than the loop deck, but there are some things I wish it had, like infinite scroll on the knobs and faders, which the loop deck has. I use it as a keyboard companion rather than a replacement while editing.
@@GeraldBertramPhotography I feel like the loop deck hits the price really well for a ready out of the box item. But money is money so I went with the midi controller.
@@munkykng416 It's a little steep of a price for me but I hear you. One of the reasons I chose the X-Touch mini was that it had infinite scroll on the knobs which sealed the deal for me. That and the software is crazy customizable.
I've had this in my Amazon cart for a few weeks now. Now that I see you working with it I get a better visual on how it would fit in my workflow. All the twisting and turning dials seems like it would get old quickly. If I want shadows at +75, I just click 3/4 of the way up the shadows slider. 1 click vs twist twist twist twist.
I don't mean that in a negative way, but you just saved me $250! I really appreciate it.
Someone else will probably love this product though, it seems like the company put a lot of thought into it. I just can't see all that twisting having a positive affect to my workflow.
Really cool and maybe game changing for some. Curious what other editors are compatible
Ignoring the childish comments on here. I love the video. I have just purchased this and love it. It has made editing so much quicker and easier with all the controls visable and easy to use. Worth the price ...
It's such a shame you can't have and show genuine enthusiasm for a product during a 'live' unboxing without the majority of commenters screaming 'paid ad' :/
Just bought mine and I can't wait to get started. Thanks for this video
How do you like it !?
I've owned a Loopedeck+ for 6 months. Everything it can do, you can already do with a mouse. So if you're comfortable with a mouse, no need to change. But there are a few places where it really helps. When you're going through a ton of pictures, rating them and flagging them is A LOT easier. The other place where it's helped me is that I have some weird OCD thing where if a setting looks great at 22, my brain says it needs to be a 20 or 25. 20 or 25 may not look as good, but that's what it needs to be. I KNOW it's stupid, but that's how it is. I can close the panel and just make the picture look its best. Also, it does reduce time searching through menu's and clicking.
I would change the individual color rollers, they click and that annoys me. it should just be a smooth roller. Also, the placement of the buttons/knobs could be better. But that's going to vary by person. Overall, I'm not disappointed in the purchase and I use it every time I edit. However, it's not a necessity.
"The other place where it's helped me is that I have some weird OCD thing where if a setting looks great at 22, my brain says it needs to be a 20 or 25. 20 or 25 may not look as good, but that's what it needs to be."
Glad I'm not the only one... I find myself just clicking and typing in the number in LR to get it to a 0 or 5... as your saying since I got this device editing full screen and don't even go back to check anymore once they are done I move on in full screen.
@@TheCraftyDragon Its like that comment was written by me. Exactly my ocd and what happend with me since using the device..
SO happy I'm not the only one with this type of OCD! This is the exact reason why I'm considering purchasing a loupe deck or some sort of midi controller for editing my photos.
The good think about this device is, you can hide side slider panel while editing, so you can see the image more larger.
Most professional editors anyway have two screens and LR has this dual screen mode to achieve exactly that. I think the best part of it is that you can keep your eyes on the image instead of jumping around between sliders and image, but then again, that's what keyboard shortcuts are for.
@@magicalsnek meanwhile i'm here still use single 30" monitor for lightroom and photoshop side by side 😂
It's a super handy tool. Use it a lot. Much faster than a keyboard or mouse. I'm a pro. The slowness has nothing to do with the Loupedeck but with the software and the computer you use.
I see a lot of people saying that this may not speedup your work flow and that Fstoppers is paid to hype up the product.
Here is the back story behind Loupedeck.
Loupedeck was a crowd funded project on Indiegogo couple of year back.
The idea was great and they go funded within 3 days.
By the end of the 1 month long crowd funding, they hit a wooping 400% mark.
How do I know this? Well, I was one of the backers of the project because I could see huge potential on how this could speedup my wedding workflow.
Been using this for the past 2 yrs and I can't see myself going back to scrolling up and down on the develop module to make changes.
I should also admit that I haven't used the keyboard shortcuts.
Here is how I use my loupedeck.
- Apply my basic preset on shortlisted pics.
- Make all sorts of adjustments.
- Perform local adjustments (using mouse in combination with loupedeck)
- Export.
It did make a huge difference and speed up my workflow drastically.
Oh btw, the one shown here is the Loupledeck+ (version 2)
I own the 1st version they'd crowd funded.
The one thing that I don't like to do in the loupedeck is to provide star rating (which is how I usually shortlist photos)
I do that in my keyboard as the rectangular buttons on my 1st version of loupedeck aren't fluid like a keyboard)
From the video, it looks like they've fixed the issue in loupedeck+
The other thing is with regards to the knobs. A slight hit on the knob could easily rotate them. (not roll but gets easily rotated)
As you keep moving your hands here and there, it's possible to slightly bump into the knobs.
From the video it's not really clear if loupdeck+ has solved this by providing a slight tension to the knobs.
As the original loupedeck owner, I wouldn't be upgrading to loupedeck+
But I got to admit, this is completely changed how I used to process my photos.
Doesn't matter if Fstoppers got paid for this.
The product works great.
But yeah, I could feel they were paid as well.
Which one do you recommend more only
for image processing Loupedeck + or Loupedeck LIVE
One of the best post I've seen so far.
I just unpacked my Loupedeck+ but it doesn't seem user friendly with Adobe Photoshop 🤔
It would be great if you can check if it works also with ACR & Capture one. Great video
It does not work with camera raw, but it does have some basic support for C1 and Aurora HDR. Also works with Premiere, After Effects, and some things in Photoshop (but that's weird).
Hey! What do you think about it after 10 month of work?
Has Loupedeck created a Chart that one could use to enter all different options selected while setting the console up with the multiple function according to one's own workflow? That would make it easier to learn and remember all functions. The Quick Guide card is very basic and the download guide is rather complicated.
Can you program a button to "group into stack" and/or "open as layers in photosop" ?
Do you still use Loupdeck? have you upgraded to the newer one?
can you change the 'resolution' of the knob turns..? Meaning, can you adjust the amount the numbers increase/decrease with each of degree of turn of the knob so you can have finer control?
They're speed sensitive.
@@FilipSerban Interesting... thanks! Do you have one? If so, do you like it? I've read lots of mixed reviews on Amazon and BH. Thanks!
Did this 'Loupedeck' could be use in movies for correcting ???
Great paid advert
It's fine
WOW, how I wish I was doing Photos/Weddings again.
Now I want to do VIDEOS... do they make one for Video editing?
5:00 little heads up(im sure you do know) you don't need to manually reset to 0, just double click the setting name (exposure, clarity, whites etc) and it resets it to zero.
Okay. So all looks great. Was just waiting what would happen when you open to edit a panorama/merge in PhotoShop and hop on back into LR? Am taking it that it's transparent and you do not have to grab for a mouse/keyboard for PhotoShop and then Loupedeck and then PS, etc.? That it can apparently also work in Premier Pro implies that there's seamless integration throughout Adobe Suite?
Loupedeck+ supports Capture One, Lightroom, Photoshop, Premiere Pro, Aurora HDR, and After Effects currently. The driver is smart enough to realize what app is active and you can customize each app separately using the configuration tool.
We just bought one of these! It's so good for editing and colour grading in Pr!
Does this product work with capture one pro?
Great review and information. I had one for a week and the down arrow was sticking so I sent it back. I have heard other users experience the same issue with the advance buttons. I felt the interface software was not intuitive.
What about local adjustments and brushes?
Does this work with Premiere Pro with Lumetri?
Yeah, it works with Premiere.
Premier Pro, yes.
Is there a option to change the sensitivity of the toggles?
I use this same one and the dials are speed sensitive. If you turn slow it very slowly adjusts the amount, and if you turn the same amount faster it goes more on the amount
i dig the live review. feels more real, honest.
Will this work on iPad Pro....?
What about brush, gradient, dodging/burning all the tools a landscape photographer uses in the workflow? Seems to limited for anything besides large batch editing.
Shouldn’t you declare that it’s a paid content?
are there any alternatives to this deck? 250 is quite to price.
Nice review - fleshes out the functionality alot... FWIW Ive found it makes editing less or a process and more enjoyable. Do agree with preference for more 'tactility' in the knobs...cheers
Maybe I don't have enough time on my hands to be super critical, but I don't find this to obviously be an ad. In any case, I'd consider stepping up to this from my X-TOUCH MINI and LrControl, which I really enjoy. (He did mentioned that he didn't know how much it costs, so that at least states that he didn't buy it with his own money.)
does it only work with lightroom or any editing software?
Curious if it’s backlit?
No it’s not. He’s reviewing the newest one, I’ve owned the 1st one and the new one, I really enjoy it but it’s not backlit
there's a bit of free software called Midi2LR, or something like that, that lets you use any midi controller with lightroom. Works well. I use it with another program, Lemur, which lets you build custom midi interfaces on your ipad (but it's tricky to do, steep learning curve.)
can this be customized to work for other adobe programs
I would like to use it - BADLY! but I would like to know if I need a Special LOUPEDECK for Photoshop and another for Premiere-Pro (both CC 2019 curently). I am not using Lightroom, found that Bridge+Photoshop are working best for me.
How about using it when in Adobe Camera Raw, is it supported?
Best regards and many thnaks for the Great Tutorial, good job!
Nissan
The single Loupedeck+ supports Capture One, Lightroom, Photoshop, Premiere Pro, Aurora HDR, and After Effects currently. The driver is smart enough to realize what app is active and you can customize each app separately using the configuration tool.
@@jimsetzer5780 Thank you, if only the Local reps here could confirm (they say opposite - I would wait for the NEW release etc)...
would that work on older adobe Illustrator or Photoshop?
does anyone know if ths works well with captureone? cheers
Quick grab from the Google: "Jun 20, 2018 - Loupedeck announces Loupedeck+ with support for Capture One"
Hi Lee, This is one of the best product reviews I`ve ever seen on YT. I`m interested in buying one of these, having had the Logitech Craft keyboard for a while where the `Crown` wheel which you can use for editing things in the Basic panel in LRC only, is so damned sensitive, its almost unusable. You need to have the lightest of touches to use this keyboard and that `Crown` wheel for editing its almost pointless, although nevertheless a good quality keyboard in every other respect. So now even 3 years after you bought out this video I`m off to buy a Loupedeck Plus. Thanks and cheers Lee from a UK subscriber.
Thank you for drumming up hype for this. I have one that I want to sell. No joke. I don't need mine and I got it as a gift lol.
hey where you located how much message me? ill like to get one put it up on ebay
I'll put it up on Ebay this week. I have the non+. Doesn't have buttons like screen modes or anything like that. I'll update here when it's on Ebay.
I think it's a great product! For me, I don't know if it is a paid ad or not...how would I...I don't care. If it is I think that's great for you guys! Otherwise, you wouldn't be able to provide all this great information. Good for you!!
Excellent review!
I would love this keyboard for editing my daily photos but the $350 cdn price tag is hefty for a few buttons and knobs. Especially when you can do the same thing on a kb and mouse. I'd maybe pay $200 for the plus version since it'll work in premiere as well.
do it work with capture one
Hey FStoppers, is this strictly LR or can it work in PS as well? It'd be killer to make on-the-fly edits to layers to match composites.
Loupedeck+ supports Capture One, Lightroom, Photoshop, Premiere Pro, After Effects. The driver is smart enough to realize what app is active and you can customize each app separately using the configuration tool.
Does this work on Capture One? I do photo tethering but I find using Adobe Lightroom is too slow vs. Capture One.
Skin color tool: FN+Temperature and FN+Saturation
This tool uses raw calibration to adjust the saturation in
the red channel, which has an effect on the redness in
skin tone.
Rotate FN+Temperature to adjust skin hue between
yellow and red color temperatures
Rotate FN+Saturation to increase or decrease skin
saturation
Have a good Christmas Lee and friends. Have you bought me one for my present?
Why is no Pro using it? Because it will not replace keyboard. And you dont want this + keyboard + tablet + mouse on your desk
Do you know pros aren't using it? Honestly, most "pros" I know are outsourcing most of their edits. I did that the last 5 years of my wedding business. -P
@@FStoppers wow how does that work? is it because its to much work for one person?
Lol Lee you crack me up! Why are you going backwards on technology? More equipment to carry and honestly, I think I can beat you if you use the keyboard. Don’t be a dinosaur 🦖 😂
@@herreraid2010 Just watch Tony Northup or any other photographer who is passionate enough to do his own edits and he will tell you it's nice for a moment but then you go back to keyboard+mouse. They just advertise this stuff cause they get it for free mate. Chill out!
Practically replaces the keyboard for everything, and I use a mouse and tablet along side my loupedeck. Small keyboard, loupedeck, tablet (which is also my mouse mat)... fits fine
People who think that this wont speed up your workflow havent used it - or havent given it enough of a chance.
Depends how you edit though really. I do a lot of individual edits on my pictures, and I use brushes a lot. For that, this vs the keyboard is no contest.
Love me some Fstoppers!
Does this work with other editors that have the same kind of controls?
YES!
Adobe Lightroom, Premiere Pro Compatible
Skylum Aurora HDR Compatible
I wonder if they will make a driver for Luminar...
Take a look at midi2LR. This software makes every midi controller a Light Room controller. Especially cool if you have something like a Mackie (or clone) controller with motorized sliders.
Who cares about lightroom? Is that software not compatible with all software that uses keyboard controls? If not, why not? If all it is doing in converting midi controls to keyboard commands then it should work with all software.
When they release a mobile version that’s smaller, thinner, and bluetooth, I’ll be very interested.
Can you see the histogram while using the deck?
yes
What kind of mouse is he using ?
Logitic MX wireless mouse -P
You cannot access Brush tool and some other tools. The Control Dial turns the picture about 5 degree at least. If you need to straighten just by 1 degree, it would not work. There are many limitations for $250.
So many people are in the comments saying “You can just do all of that with your mouse and Keyboard!”
Yeah but using midi controllers are a workflow choice for a lot of industry professionals . Professional film colorists use midi controllers for color grading. Music producers use midi controller for their DAWs. It’s not that you can’t do it with just your mouse and keyboard but it just feels better doing it using physical buttons. Having something like a Loupedeck could speed up your workflow tremendously once you figured everything out.
people who have nothing good to say about Loupedeck either havent used it (most likely) or havent got used to it yet.
There is simply no doubt that using tools like this for any application speeds up workflow. How dramatically is down to how people edit and how fluent they get with either method... For me its significantly faster than using the mouse and keyboard.
I would love to have one of these but the question is does it work with anything other than Photoshop like Capture One.....Photo Direct just to name a couple
Loupedeck+ supports Capture One, Lightroom, Photoshop, Premiere Pro, After Effects. The driver is smart enough to realize what app is active and you can customize each app separately using the configuration tool.
@@jimsetzer5780 thank you so much you're the only person that actually helped out on this topic
very good overview...thank you!
Good morning
I would like to know if it is also available for Photoshop 2019 on Mac and windows
Thank you very much and I await your answer
friendly Thodoris Siorikis
It works just in Lightroom and Adobe Premiere... people converted it for some other softwares but I didn't see Photoshop or after effects which I try to set up...
@@sceliano Photoshop support just came out this week. Version 2.5 of the software.
250 dollars for a midi daw controller? No, thanks... Korg Nanokontrol 2 (x2) + Midi2Lr makes the service for less than half... The great advantage is the system is ready to use, and with Midi2Lr you must set it as you like.
Loupedeck should have way far more buttons and knobs, for the price. Maybe in a future revision...
Thank you!
Thanks! Are there others besides the Nanokontrol 2 that you’d recommend or is it considered the best?
@@kevinyounger7854 Well...i have Nanokontrol 2, but i think there is also something similar from Behringer. And this brand has also the BCF controllers that include motorized faders. And there is one only with knobs. You should search for midi daw controller, and seek in the wiki for compatibility.
@@eugeniobritofotografia Thanks
How smooth is nanokontrol knobs and sliders? In LR for example whit mouse I always grab histogram to adjust basic things as slider lower are too sensitive and goes too crazy for fine tune.
does it work with capture one?
Quick grab from the Google: "Jun 20, 2018 - Loupedeck announces Loupedeck+ with support for Capture One"
What's up with the windows 10 activation messages. Did a windows update cause this?
Seems like they just use pirated stuff... you know the thing that they said they don't do ^^. A friend of mine has a pirated windows and he has this message for a while now. I have the fully paid version completely up to date and no messages at all
I have heard nothing but good things about the Loupedeck...looks like it lives up to the hype!
Can't you do 95% of this with just the regular keyboard?
HelloImBen not really. You can do a good amount of the stuff like rating, flagging, exposure, but you can’t do the things like rotating the image, HSL, etc.
It doesn't seem like you can do curves with this thing, so it can't do all a keyboard and mouse can, let alone more.
Try autohotkey.... It takes some knowledge to code, but it can significantly improve your workflow
You could ...but don't you want people to call you DJ PHOTOSHOP? Tempting, I know!
Sure you can but knobs seem like a serious time saver. For example, if you want to use the arrows to adjust exposure you can do that by clicking the exposure slider and tapping the arrows, then if you want to make a quick sharpening adjustment? Well, you will have to use your mouse scroll down to the details panel, open it, click the sharpening slider to adjust the sharpness with arrows. With this tool, just turn the knobs and you move on. This is incredible! I shoot sports and some games I can have 1200 to 2000 files to cull! I'm buying this for sure.
I'm the same way, I really don't care what the knobs say hahaha. Great review looks like a time saver especially if you do a lot of editing.
Once you learn Lightroom keyboard shortcuts, using the keyboard will be way faster.
Not true, with Loupdeck you don't have to hunt for commands.
How does a keyboard adjust all the different things that the knobs and dials do on the Loupedeck? Sure, the star rating buttons are just straight replication of keyboard buttons, but the dials/knobs are not.
Agreed. I feel like a lot of the people who are impressed by this haven't learned all the shortcuts. Seems way faster, and less moving my hand all over the place to new buttons and wheels.
Listen there are some keys that are the same as keyboard short cuts, agreed. Tell me the shortcut that can adjust your red channel saturation as fast as the wheel? I'll wait...
Of course there must be some kind of benefits when using this otherwise this product would not make sense and not have made you guys defend it. For my use case, in which I heavily rely on mouse and keyboard inputs, having this would not speed up the editing process. No, the keyboard cannot fine tune the red channel saturation but once you have become familiar with the editing modules, it does not take more than 1-2 seconds to find the slider for that. If your editing process is fully covered by this device, then good for you. Some people tend to do more than just turning knobs when editing photos in which a mouse and keyboard combination is way more efficient.Try changing crop ratios quickly and most importantly, try adding guides in transform. Good luck with that.
It's cool for sure, i've used a novation nocturn for several years doing the same thing and it certainly speeds things up, albeit 1/10th the cost
Isn't that for music production?
Just purchased one myself. Just looks so much more easier, nothing worse sat at a computer messing around moving sliders with a mouse etc and going through all other taps etc when you got like a 1000+ images to go through.
3:41 How many star would you guys rate this photo? 😅
5* World class 🤣
The coolest feature for me is that you can edit in full screen. I edit on a 12" MacBook and 12" ist really really small as you might know
Once I learned the dial placements, that's my favorite way to edit - full screen with all the side panels gone.
Did Loupedeck fix the problem with turning a know resulting in 100 action events in the history tab, one for each increment, rendering the history tab useless? According to a review at BH, they ignored people asking about it and denied the problem exists.
I know this was posted two years and and most the comments as well but for those saying it's a paid ad had obviously not watched any other reviews. He missed out on a huge feature about all the custom buttons because he didn't use it for a few weeks before hand like he said. Also how it works with photoshop and a few other programs he didn't mention. An ad would have touched on all these things.
Awesome board but a Behringer X-touch Mini is a very capable board for a fraction of the price. Yes it will require some set up. NOTE: There is a issue with some of the features when Adobe did the big update but it still works well for us poor folk.
Midi2Lr did this ages ago... been using midi devices for years in LR for a fraction of the cost of this deck. I Donate to the programmers here and there. I have 32 knobs, every LR slider i could need programmed in. 32 buttons programmed with presets, and keyboard shortcuts.. down side is you need to program the buttons yourself. Takes about an hour. It has never crashed, it is lighting fast, and every LR update it still works. Midi2LR all day!
Jeah, same for capture one :-) Bome Midi Controller works great there - though it took A LOT of time to set up everything.
Awesome product
I'd love one but your review has a big flaw that you admit you are not a big LR user and the review is on LR. For someone who use used to KB shortcuts with mouse on LR, I am unsure whether this will actually be beneficial. ps Y is the before and After button.
I think this is an excellent video and well executed, but totally agree that that's the one major issue. I know all my shortcuts so I don't know if tactile knobs vs mousing alone is enough.
Where those wedding outtakes you were editing? I couldn't help being drawn to the person's butt in the right side of the frame of FS3_5868. lol
Very intriguing...
11:41 Why do you need dual monitors for editing? With loupedeck you can do a fullscreen edit even on your (tiny) 15 inch laptop screen. (no offense - just a comparison to a 34 or bigger desktop screen) Check out my quick video : th-cam.com/video/OhSpREi8Xj0/w-d-xo.html
Loupedeck is cool! Totally agree with everything else in your video Lee.
Wow that's amazing
My biggest concern is that Adobe adds new sliders and makes constant layout improvements. That leads me to think that the Loupedeck may quickly become obsolete. At $170 to $250, that is a big investment that may not payoff over the long term. Dehaze has become a key adjustment and I do not see any way to assign that. Thanks for the review.
In the year I've had my loupedeck(s) they have constantly updated the drivers and configuration tool to match Adobe updates. Dehaze was the very first slider I mapped to the C1 dial (D1 in loupedeck+).
If this would be cheaper I will definitely buy one for wedding and event photography. But I don't see how I could use this effectively in photoshop. Mainly for lightroom it is too expensive.
Good review
This feels like an ad. Not in a good way. This seems like a cool product, why not just be honest
Wow cool I can use my DJ gear and midi keyboard making photos
I hate editing, maybe it’s because of my Apple track pad thing. This looks like something I would enjoy using, will definitely be adding to my wishlist.
let me introduce you to this wonderful invention called 'a mouse'