EVERYBODY WANTS TO BE MY ENEMY! 🧁 ARCANE Season 1 Ep 5 REACTION & REVIEW!
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Another day, another reaction channel absolutely shitting on imagine dragons. In all seriousness though, what is with all the ID hate? Everyone hates them, but no one says why
I mean generally their songs are uninspired badly produced boring rock songs. But this song in particular was like number 1 in the country for weeks and was played everywhere. The band seems to be very nice guys and as a league fan I think the band is fine, they just make bad music. They also are just known for having some of the most generic songs ever hence why they are in every advertisement ever, which is also off-putting. They have been super cool as one of the more popular Mormon bands to support lgbtq+ stuff so I don't think most people have a problem with them. Like I said, just insanely generic music.
I guess we just want to be their enemy…
I personally didn't have a problem with it. I've only heard their music so I have no idea what they look like. that's why they don't stand out to me as a cameo and don't feel forced into it. I do agree with the fact that it is a little much to have the same song play twice in the episode though.
As many people enjoy pop music, as many people dislike it. Just gotta deal with it. If you are an ID fan, nothing to worry about. They are popular enough lol.
They are the new Nickelback. They got super popular and now people hate on them for no reason other than it's popular to hate on them.
Bruh, Imagine Dragons are legends in the scene and definitely deserved their cameo. Imagine playing the game, going from holding tournaments in someone’s basement to filling huge stadiums and having a big name in Imagine Dragons making the World Championship song while also performing it live. Yep, that shit happened in 2014. They’ve been fans of the series since the beginning and it’s cool to see them still being relevant with the franchise today.
If you know, you know.
That fight sequence with Vi was so good.
Doom Music in the Background
Just wait until Vi vs Ambessa Medarda s2. 👀
Imagine Dragons are big fans of league of legends and did songs for league tournaments in the past so it makes sense that they did a cameo even though it is a bit off in the show.
They talk about this in the making-of documentary too.
@@Naugur yea
also Ray Chen was also a Cameo in this episode, but i think due tho the nature of his music it was more of a classy inclusion and added to the atmosphere of the scene
@@recklesserves155 and also people don't know who he is compared to imagine dragons
They don't necessarily even need to be ID. Yeah they're a reference. But they're clearly a character in the universe. Entertainment exists in Zaun too you know.
Carson: “I’m going somewhere with this
Lindsay: *Visibly concerned 😂
Yeah what others said about Imagine dragons is correct. All the people on the band except one are said to be big fans of lol and are players, they made the very successful and first Worlds songs "warriors", along with a few others collabs with riot over the years.
There also is other cameos in the show with real people. Like in the violin show in either this episode or the last one, where jayce is meeting everyone and doing the deals. The violinist is Ray Chen, who also collabed many times with riot and did do the violin and viola pieces for the show (notable ones is the one in the last episide, beginning of first episode (where we swapped to a viola instead to get a more sadder sound) and obviously during the violin show).
Another one that not many people know, is in episide 4, when a blimp or airship flew off, 3 guys were saying "happy progress day" were actually i think producers or something similar to that for the show.
Yeah people say that ID in the show is cringe, 'ham fisting the band into the show' but those same people only care about ID because they know who they are and their popularity makes it fun to hate on them, but don't care about all the other real people who have cameos. It feels pretty disingenuous. Would they think it was equally cringe if they knew who Ray Chen was? Idk, maybe? My take is that putting cameos is risky, because of how people's perceptions can change over time, but it isn't cringe.
Yes the 3 people on the blimp are the 3 head figures of the animators at Fortiche. One of them is in another scene in episode 1 I believe in a red light establishment. There's also a version of KD/A POP/STARS with those 3 and christian linke they love doing that.
@@LogicUnpublishable in my humble opinion, the only reason people (including me) cringe at ID in Arcane, is because I genuinely think ID are responsible for some of the worst music in pop culture in recent memory, and to me their horrible music brings down the vibes and completely takes me out of the show. I knew the violinist was Ray Chen and all i thought was 'oh that's cool', but for the ID i literally skipped it because it completely took me out. Again my opinion, but I really don't think people are hating just because they are popular.
"rookie mistake exposing your weak spot" I mean if she can hit that, she could have just put a bullet in her brain, at least from Sevika's perspective since Caitlyn isn't willing to execute people she has no context about xD That being said it's still a good point in general. Now that Vi saw what happened, she could target that weak spot next time for example.
The status quo issue of Silco is a different one from Vander though. See Silco fully intended to break the status quo. Except Powder happen and destroyed his entire plan. She blew up his stock of shimmer and put his scientist in the hospital for who knows how long.
Silco's original plan was to scare Piltover away with a power they couldn't match (even if the Undercity couldn't win the war due to the disparity of resource, if they had shimmer that made each potential battle insanely costly and terrifying for Piltover, they could bargain on a powerful position). But by the time he got Shimmer up and running again, Piltover had hextech. And it doesn't take much, even before reinforced crystals, for Hextech to be weaponised. I mean even throwing the crystals at the Undercity would destroy it.
Vander refuses to change the status quo when Silco gave him an opportunity to do so, while Silco didn't change it because he simply didn't have the physical means to do so but he's been chasing that means ever since while Vander gave up. Not saying Silco is right and Vander wrong though (I think they're both wrong in different ways but that's another story).
Silco's goals and achievements are huge and easy. He explained his views in episode 3: he doesn't want to fight, win a war against Piltover, just to scare them enough, so topsiders leave the Underground alone. And he succeeded, enforcers aren't in charge of the Undercity anymore. His connection with Marcus is the opposite from what Vander had with Grayson. Marcus is submitted to Silco not the other way around.
Moreover, the Undercity is more prosperous now than during Vanders time, although there were no investments from government. The source of the Undercity income is shimmer. It's also medicine (Silco's eye), fuel for engines(Sevika's arm), battle stimulant, pleasure drug.
Exactly, he was never delusional enough to think that he stood any chance in a direct war even with shimmer.
On Imagine Dragon's involvement with League. A big reason is that the band have been massive fans of the game in its early days, which then lead to their first collaboration the Warrior song and music video.
I don't get why they make such a big deal about the Imagine Dragons cameo.
Cameos are standard in shows and games. People who are part of the team who worked on a show or game often put stuff from themselves into their product.
Stan lee, for example, has had countless cameos in shows and movies.
It's normal for the industry
Vi´s Tattoo could stand for her Name, but it is also her Prison Nummer 516
516 would be DXVI, where is the DX?
I think its kind of a 'play on words' in some sense. the V and the I are 5 and 1 respectively, and together they make the 6@@IsilionNELE
@@Myysteryman i just thought about it, but the 6 might just stand for Vander and the kids he adopted, the adoptive family was of 6.
@@Myysteryman That's really far fetched. I'm sure it's just the name "Vi".
one may as well claim that 516 is a "mathematical pun" because 5 +1 = 6.
As they say, sometimes a cigar is just a cigar
@@IsilionNELE what how is that a stretch? I'm almost certain it was put In on purpose. They put much smaller and intricate details into the show, this isn't just a random coincidence.
Gotta say my favorite part of the episode WAS the band cameo guys. That was enormously cool to me.
The song "enemy" was written and produced by the creators of the show. It's the same with every song that plays in Arcane.
Some are. Enemy isn't.
PRODUCTION CREDITS
Enemy by Imagine Dragons & JID
Written by: Dan Reynolds, Wayne Sermon, Ben McKee, Daniel Platzman, Robin Fredriksson, Mattias Larsson, Justin Tranter, Destin Route p/k/a J.I.D
Produced by: Mattman & Robin (Wolf Cousins Productions)
Enemy is written for Arcane though.
This time, yall missed important little details through the show that could have been used as foreshadow for jayce's "sudden" change. He's high on his own ego, he always had egomaniac tendencies, he signed his own notes, something no one would see, he also had a mug with his own face, after his rise in popularity. He doesn't dress as a scientist but as an aristocrat. Details like that show case his strong ego, that was stroked by Mel in the perfect way so that he acts the way she wants him to.
I think there's something really interesting about that tension that makes people recoil you mentioned in the scene with jinx and silco. Because Silco is genuinely trying to give advice to jinx, but what worked for him is not necessarily the best for jinx and I think that this is supposed to show that there is something inherently wrong with their relationship.
You can tell he actually wants to be a father figure in his own ways but he is a bad influence on her mind's state. Although right after she is able to keep on working on the hextech gemstone so it did work to some extent.
I didn't find the Imagine Dragons jarring, probably because I haven't been hyper exposed to them.
Their performance does seem to have a storytelling element to it though... Piltover music is shown a classical, in a theatre, people dressed up to attend the performance. The undercity is direct, in a street, ad-hoc.
After you finish the series, I think you two would enjoy Bridging the Rift, a 5 episode docuseries on the making of Arcane. It's available on TH-cam.
Imagine Dragons cameo was one of the highlights of this episode for a lot of people
Something i want to say about arcane, is that they the strong women trop perfekt.
Both Sevika and Vi are both absolute bad asses and great charakter.
And as a league fan since 2012 the enemy part was more like an hommage to Imagine Dragons, as they did the Warrior back in 2014 which was a big hit. The Song has been loved since 2014 in the league community.
Imagine Dragons and Riot Games go back very far. I think they made their World Championship Songs like almost 10 Years ago. From a fan's point of view this cameo is really not as surprising as you might think. Also this song got overplayed after this came out since the song got made on Riot Games behalf, like "warriors" or "Legens never die" all League of Legens songs.
41:21 - Maybe she's born with it? Maybe it's *Mel-belline!* "Black don't crack" is basically what it is. lol She is rich and got melenin to slow down the aging process.
the reason i find cool that imagine dragon was in the serie , is because i know they are big big fan of the games even got late in a show because they where playing a ranked xD , i feel like they just wanted to be in it, to be in it without more XD
you're the only reactor who said the cameo is corny.
Nah, I've seen a few dislike it. Not everyone loves ID. From what I've seen, most seem to find it funny though
What, no! A lot of people thought it was corny, and let's face it, it is corny as hell. Don't get me wrong, Arcane is one of my favorite shows of all time, but if I could cut one scene, it would probably be that one. Or at least not make it so obvious. There's multiple cameos in the show, but this is the only one that feels like it takes center stage with how intrusive it is.
a lot of people in your bubble maybe.@@ninjatoriumnova2483
"Viktor's about to have a breakthrough without you."
Jayce is about to have a breakthrough of his own, lol.
Jayce didn't get sold on the money. I'd say the show has made clear by this point his ideals are purer than that. He simply realized there that there's no going forward without playing the game, which he's trying to do. To what level of proficiency though, that's more open for debate 🤣.
the thing with imagine dragons is that the history with them goes way back to 2012 when they made a song for Worlds, so a lot of league fans actualy like them, so this cameo was pretty sick when it came out, but now when the song became notorious because of all the memes it does look corny xd
its funny seeing calling moments of arcane corny from people who adore anime
I love how this show breaks story and character cliches, specifically with silco and councilor Medarda.
Yes, VI on her cheek is her "nickname" (Vi for Violet), also the Roman numeral for the number 6 (V for 5, I for 1, equals 6), and her "inmate number" was 5...1...6. So, it has several meanings.
There was no contract, Imagine Dragons and Riot have been friends for many years they did the Worlds 2014 song and they also did Enemy for Arcane. It wasn't a business decision, they didn't hire Imagine Dragons to do it. ID wanted to do it they love League of Legends and wanted to be part of Arcane. You are reading too much into it as it being a business decision. It was the opposite.
Why the hate on imagine dragon, its fine for me, im not a fan of imagine dragon fyi.
Btw they r (imagine dragon) long fan of league of legends thats why the show runner invited them to be part of this masterpiece.
I'm quite sure most people enjoyed the music video part. Maybe because they don't know it's a kameo? I don't get the cringe. That knee kick interrupting the music was sick
They know its a kameo, they just cringe about the song because at this point the song is so over played, like they said, maybe if they hear it when it came out it wouldn't matter
I've not heard the song before watching the show and only roughly heard the name of the band, not heard anything from them. The cameo was nice.
It's kind of their fault for letting the song being overplayed at them.
everything is cringe 🥸🥸
TBH I didn't know how Imagine Dragons looked and I was still 100% sure that was them making a cameo just for how intrusive it is. You don't put so much effort into the design of a band and focus so much on them during that song if it's not a cameo. I didn't mind it though. I did know the songs were composed specifically for the show, so it's fair enough. I can understand how it broke the immersion for some people, though.
@@Peace_Guard how is their fault dude? I don't know were You been but yeah the song is really overplayed, It didn't gave me cringe thou but I understand were they coming from haha
You can see at the end of the cameo scene, when Viktor is on the hospital bed, the next scene starts with two very specific tarot cards
The Imagine Dragons cameo always gets me so good
I believe that Marcus is trying to fill in Graysons shoe.
The old Vander&Grayson and the new Silco&Marcus.
He couldn't look up Graysons statue until his daugther questioned who she was.
And by now I'm starting to catch that Silco may not be ther utter evil. His image through the way he treats Powder is very different from part1.
From ep4 you could see him getting mad at powder terrorizing upside which could hurt balance of top&bottom?
Also giving fatherly advice(Baptise scene) like Vander did to Violet.
And you know PowPow and Silco's relationship is weird,
it's why you would freak out watching her sitting on his lap and him getting close to the face.
Yes they introduced three different romances in this episode but the purpose of each one of them was very different and could hardly be further away from romance itself for the sake of it. Although I get you just meant that as a joke.
Джинкс довольно таки умна
Все эти механизмы - её разработка
И впринципе она даже разобралась в записях из книги, которую украла из лаборатории
One of the reasons i love this show so much is because even after multiple viewing's i still find new details about it. Vi's tatoo on her cheek could mean her name and also stands for number 6 in roman numerals. I never put any significance one the number 6, but it could also stand for the number of her new family member's. Vander, Milo, Claggor, Ekko, Vi and Jinx.
The Imagine Dragons stuff didn't bother people much because the core audience of the show has a soft spot for them, since the band were fans of the game and ended up making the 2014 World Championship song "Warriors" which became insanely popular. So yeah, objectively the cameo is on the corny side but when the show was releasing no one really batted an eye at it.
Since when did cameos become cringe? I think a lot people don't like Imagine Dragons and that's making them label it as cringe
As someone who doesn't listen to Western music all that much, I think their inclusion was really cool easter egg that doesn't effect the story at all
@@Sho-is5vu I didn't say cringe, I said corny. It takes you out of the episode immediately and breaks the immersion. Why is you liking the cameo valid but you feel the need to invalidate the feelings of people who dislike it by claiming it's because they have something against the band.
A part of it might be from dislike of the band but it doesn't matter who they put in any sort of cameo like that is weird and can be off putting if you care about the tone of what you are making. Even if they shoved in prime Scorpions or Iron Maiden in there people would still find it strange, it's a strange choice to make. And it gets a pass because it's obviously done as an homage due to the band's history with the game.
@@KolyoSofiata Sorry, I was not speaking against you.. I was just talking in general a lot of people are biased and calling the scene corny/cringy because they don't like the band. I've even seen people annoyed that the opening song is done by ID and not some "good band".
I understand the criticism of breaking immersion but with the nature of the show having a music video every episode it didn't feel weird instead I felt like it showed how different music/entertainment is in Zaun compared to the theatre scene in Piltover.
@@KolyoSofiataIt's kind of the opposite. It stongly contributes to the immersion that's then broken by the kick. Without it the effect wouldn't be the same.
В этом сериале очень хорошо передают обстановку того, что находится вокруг персонажей
И музыкальное сопровождение про шедевральное, например в этой серии, когда Вай паркурила по своему родному месту
Благодарю за видос
'Buddy cop' dynamic? You must be historians.
carson’s expressions in the thumbnails are only continuing to get better lol
I don't understand the reaction to the imagine dragons scene... I get that for some reason people dislike imagine dragons and meme them, but I thought it was a pretty cool scene even without the context of Imagine Dragons having a long history with Riot. You guys are a bit too biased with finding it corny... It's ok if you think so, but saying you'd be surprised if someone liked the scene? Yeah, actually, a lot of people did. Even another musician had made a cameo too but you didn't find him cringey because you didn't know him.
You're reviews and discussions are always epic. Can't wait for when you get to Blue Eye Samurai.
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The scene in the brothel is one of the funniest moments of the entire show. Caitlyn's discomfort followed by Vi pulling a freaking Anime Wall-Pin, then the reveal of Cait happily chatting with...women. Vi's response being "Hm...that's fun."
Silco is ~probably~ the most discussed character in the show because he's such a complicated character. His relationship with Jinx is really freaking complicated.
Jayce is another weird one because...he's a himbo. He's a himbo. He is smart at one thing, Hextech, but for everything else he only ever has one thought or priority in his brain and it's related to whomever talked to him last.
Imagine Dragons has been working with Riot for about a decade, and most of their crew are active players. Fortiche put a number of cameos throughout Arcane, whether it's Ray Chen as the performer, ID in the lanes, their directors playing in the background...though you're not the only ones that considered ID existing in-universe really jarring.
Not you guys theorizing Mel is so kind of gold-infused immortal being 😂Love that for you :p
Oh the misery
I was surprised to learn that many people didn't like Imagine dragons inclusion, but it's probably more depends on a country where you're watching. To the people from US, where some group is particularly popular - it's inclusion in a story might break the immersion, rather then feel just like any other rand OST
Love your guys reaction
I think Jinx is living out of a ventilation shaft, meant to pump air into the lower city, but has fallen into disrepair.
have you guys seen the promotional videoclip trailer of the serie, the videoclipe of the song Enemy ? It was all about it, because the promotional thing
Enemy by imagine dragons feat JID, the part that them appears on the show its really a little unnecessary, but the videoclipe have one of the coolest animations
Hey if you're planning to continue watching stuff from the Arcane/League of Legends world (first I would recommend the behind the scenes miniseries, it's on the Riot Games TH-cam channel so you don't have to worry about copyright stuff, most reactors just leave the whole video).
There's a good channel called Shambits Gaming that talks about Riot games stuff in his videos, but he also has like a lore videos miniplaylist, that's split into the different regions of the world of Arcane. They are really good and feel easy to understand for league lore newbies.
Obviously the official league cinematics by themselves, specially the ones with Arcane characters in them.
And then there are Necrit lore videos, they're good but sometimes for sake of not prolonging the video he says lore inaccurate stuff.
Oh the Misery!!!
Such a fun scene. Though yeah, it was best when the show first released. The songs of Arcane have spread so far now that they kind of make you want to chuckle too 😆
Who misses the boy's reactions in the scenes of relationships between characters, if he watches an episode of GOT he will stab his eyes and hit the wall for sure 🤣
I forgot Imagine Dragons was in this episode. I had listened to Enemy countless times but I found myself favoring the female covers.
Regarding Sevika's arm. My takeaway is that it is regularly pumping microdoses of Shimmer into her during her fight. The small but regular injections boost her strength while mitigating the side effects that normally cause them to hulk out. Most people need to take a larger dose so it would last them the fight but she can spread it out.
The Elden Ring DLC trailer just released... I CANT WAIT
great reaction, and commentary, and yeah I loved seeing the band in the show idk, it was fun
I thought it was a fun cameo. lol
If you lived in Madrid, you would really get breathing contaminated air in and feel home 🤣
I think tou guys hit the nail on the head with the sex/blood being important for the immanentization of the HexCore. Blood and sex magic are some of the oldest and strongest kinds of magic. It had to have been important
enjoyed this episode reaction
The first time I saw this episode, the lab/sex scene confused me, and I thought it was pointless, and maybe just a self indulgent artistic exercise. Just pretty, and slightly vague for the sake of it. My opinion changed after seeing the rest of the show, as I then understood what the scene was giving us. The scene between Jayce and Mel being set directly against Victor in the lab, is meant to show two things I think. One, that Victor doesn't have the time/privilege to find love in his life, something that Jayce can take for granted. Victor is focused entirely on the technology, he likely isn't even aware of the interest Sky is showing him, just as Jayce wasn't aware of Victors plight. Victor's time is limited, and he strives to focus what he has left, on progressing their work for everybody, and possibly himself.
(((spoilers if you haven't seen the rest of the show, do not read without having seen all nine episodes)))
The second part of what that scene is showing, is that you see Jayce and Mel forming a new bond, beyond work, the two are becoming entangled, they are a couple. Victor's blood joins with the hex core, and he is now tied to/bonded with it. The show hardly ever does anything without a reason, on my first watch I just didn't understand the situation in the scene, or that fact about Arcane. I love this show, I hope the writers and animators are being given the time, and encouragement they need to make another stellar season. I can't even complain about the wait, I'd rather get another quality run of episodes, than to get them sooner just to satisfy my childish impulse. It's like that delayed gratification exercise they use on toddlers, with one cookie now, or two later. In order to find out when they have learned the value of waiting for a greater reward. I hope everyone at Riot and Fortiche are just having a great day. xD
I think you’re right but calling Jayce a munch is weird 😂 like … yes, but weird way o say it
Boxing Machine scene , Just epic!!! DOOM Music kicks in******
Mel's beautiful, so can't blame Jayce too much for folding. 🤷♀️
Imagine being a big fan of some game or song, and the producers asked you to do a cameo- or provide content for it- then some 16-year-olds with their own channel called you 'cringe' for being in it? It's been a while since I had an immature mindframe about famous people doing what they want, but it seems quite disrespectful to attack them for a cameo. It's fine having your opinion about Imagine Dragons music, but attacking the group for being honored for being fans on a TV show is TRULY cringe. I thought as much as you analyze the show, you would keep perspective in mind.
We didn’t even care about it that much
It was just not our thing why is that so crazy?
I like the song, I like the fact that they put the band into the show. You're very salty about it, let people enjoying that song.
Its not cringe. Imagine being an artist and some random indie game developer offer to animate you a music video and put it in a one of the best show. That’s cool. Not a fan of imagine dragons either but come on
"Indie game developer". Isn't League like top 5 in terms of generating income? It's no longer in its heyday, but it's still way up there.
@@djx7134 🌚
some people just age better lol
Fruits basket where?
I...I thought the band being there was neat 😥
This is probably my least favorite episode in the show. Still has its high points, but in parts it just felt a bit off.
Oh, and though you've probably either finished or are near the end, the main thing that ruined Silco's plans was the advent of Hextech, which made Piltover exponentially more powerful out of nowhere. Shimmer just cannot compete if Hextech is fully weaponized. So Silco realized that the status quo had to continue. Shimmer was not going to be the game-changer that he'd imagined. But he did pretty much become the next Vander, just not of his own volition. He also succeeded in making enforcers avoid the undercity entirely during the time-skip.
I think Mel just ages well. And I don't think she's supposed to be that old. Maybe 35, 40 tops. Someone that rich who takes care of themself can easily look a decade younger. There are some women IRL in their fifties who legit look 22.
Jayce choose woman. Viktor choose Job. Viktor is a top G, an alpha xD
dude looks like a karen in that thumb nail no lie
Acts like one
@@dragonballzgirl297 lol
I mean you guys are entitled to your opinion and all that but you guys are literally the first people I've seen react negatively to the whole imagine dragons sequence. I myself don't really have an opinion on it but you guys are definitely in the minority thinking it was cringe.
bru why do i feel like the video quality has dipped
Dudes, the venn diagram of League fans and Imagine Dragon fans is basically a circle. The band has earned it and then some.
And Vi x Caitlyn isn't a 'buddy cop' thing :)
Very good analysis though
Sorry but fruit basket?
tomorrow!
we've been having trouble with all things in the schedule, and we're just giving ourselves time to breathe to get back on top of things
@@BOLDcast Right👍 thanks for the reply
Not gonna lie, even when the show just came out, the music scene was already cringy. Today, is almost parodic.
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