It's crazy how you can see the iPhone 5 running iOS 6, and see the similarly looking iPhone SE (first generation) with iOS 15, and compare them side by side, and both look like the same phone.
I made my iPhone 5 on iOS 10.3.4 look similar to iOS 15 on the iPhone SE. it works better with an iPhone 5s on iOS 12. More tweaks including the widgets. I actually compared my iPhone 5s on iOS 12 with tweaks to my friends iPhone SE on iOS 15. Very close to each other just iOS 12 can’t do some things iOS 15 can.
@@SNLOOBactually more like the iPhone 5s. I actually used my old iPhone 5s LCD (my iPhone 5s got the red screen) to replace my friends broken iPhone SE 1 screen. I’ve also used iPhone 8 displays on iPhone SE 2 and vice versa. The only thing is if you use an iPhone SE 2/3 display on an iPhone 8, you lose 3D Touch as the iPhone SE 2/3 didn’t have the special layer in the displays. iPhone 5s and SE 1 displays are just about the same though, as neither had 3D Touch in the first place.
Crazy to see how the iPhone 5 even after 11 years can hold its ground against the iPhone 15 Pro in some aspects. The nostalgia of iOS 6 and the design of the 5 still stand out
I honestly think we hit a speed plateau, newer phones might be "15% faster" but it was already a 200ms loading screen so 15% just means 30 less milliseconds which is basically imperceptible anyways. It makes sense that apple would throttle phones to make new ones seem even faster when the increase is imperceptible otherwise
It's more the efficiency, but coming from Apple it's very possible just to be BS. Although depending on what you're comparing it to and what you use it for it does make a difference. Example is pixel runs honkai star rail and others kind like crap but the s23 plus runs them maxed out amazingly and uses less power and less heat. However if you do not play games any phone made in the last 4-5 years you won't notice much in terms of performance.
@@Abadeez I meant comparing, let's say an iphone 14 pro max, to an iphone 15 pro max, the speed increase is basically impossible to detect. Old flagship vs new flagship basically
my first iphone was a 6S bought used in 2016. Used that phone until 2021 when I upgraded to a used 12 mini. That phone was amazing, and never felt slow! My mother still uses it to this day :D
Actually this is the first time I've learned about the splash screen trick, very neat programming! Functionally it doesn't matter if the menu is loaded this fast because as a human you can't make decisions that fast, but what matters is how quickly you start seeing it, which is achievable with a splash screen. Kinda reminds me of the infinite FPS trick in 3d games, where each real frame the picture is rendered into a 2d image that is shown in 3d like a billboard, with few additional tricks. Provided that you don't move your camera around like crazy, this will give you the ability to adjust your aim in ultra smooth 999+ fps while realistically having 15 real fps of full 3d graphics.
the problem is that its false information, and you cant do anything with a splash screen. id rather see nothing if nothing is ready, but it is more "fluid" between i guess. you cant act that quickly but the "2 loads" is a bit jarring imo
@@tylerlogsdon8623It’s not really false, the layout is the same so it allows you to start planning where to put your finger next Edit: Actually the layout does shift a bit but I still think it’s helpful
I tested it just now and it's actually not a splash screen. As soon as stuff shows up, you can already scroll. There's just stuff that gets rearranged after you open the app, but it is possible to scroll before that happens, so the app really is already loaded, it's not just a splash screen.
The iPhone 5 uses the splash screen trick too. As soon as you open an app a picture is displayed until the app is loaded properly. The picture is usually the unpopulated background.
Each app had a ‘Default.png’ file seemingly from day 1 of iPhone OS, which was a barebones screenshot of the app; intended to make the app appear to launch faster. These days there’s still a modern equivalent of ‘Default.png’, but the devices are so fast that …what you see essentially immediately …is actually the app running. As others have said above, the Settings app seemingly *was* actually running at launch in the video- it just loads things like Wi-Fi status afterwards.
Scott Forestall's design left a legacy that marked an era. If his ego alongside the Apple Maps incident hadn't occur, maybe we could be living in skeuomorphic 3.0 instead of the current trend for minimalistic UI that sometimes is confusing due to the lack of context.
@@Just-View"Confusing due to lack of context"??? Jony Ive's simplistic design simply aged better than the realistic approach of Scott. One is objectively superior there is no argument.
@@hankagura5355 While I don’t truly believe in an “objectively better” design (though I prefer current iOS), I will say that something is wrong with your ability to use a device if you can’t keep up with modern iOS conventions.
@@proallnighter I’d say Aero Glass from Windows Vista/7 was the most iconic but iOS skeumorphism is a runner up. Honestly Aero Glass aged really well, it still looks incredibly sleek imo. I also quite like iOS skeumorphism though.
Man I just wish iOS had the option to truly eliminate all animations like Android does. No fading, no fancy transitions, no delay. Just click something and it's opened. Makes a world of difference when trying to be productive.
If im completely honest, my favorite iPhone of all time is the iPhone 5S. Touch ID was introduced, and jailbreaking was at its peak in my opinion. That and at its time it was just a really solid phone with minimal compromises. I currently main an SE 2, but it isnt the same. I miss having a headphone jack and a smaller form factor.
I'm of the opinion that it was the perfect size for a smartphone, and why I lament that they stopped making the mini. *Everyone* I talk to complains about how big phones have gotten, yet the only options on the market are either older models, or ones with enormous compromises.
I still have my iPhone 5S in its box in my office. Every once in awhile I'll pull it out and have a look. It's amazing how small it is compared to phones today. It was definitely a simpler time. The 5S is still a beautiful phone (and the 5), but time has marched on. Thanks for the video.
Can we all just talk about how Hugh absolutely smashed every single game while playing on BOTH phones at the same time? Not to mention that perfect Flappy Bird run 😂
iOS 6 was a technical marvel. I have never used a piece of software as refined, stable and fast as iOS 6. Apple has never topped it and I doubt they ever will since practically the entire team that was responsible for iOS 6 is no longer with Apple. People get caught up in the visual design of 6 and prior, but they don't understand how incredibly basic and simple the system actually is. iOS 7 gave the illusion that it was simpler, but it added way more complexity to the system.
I have an iPhone 14 max, but re-bought an old HTC M10 for £30, just to use as an MP3 player and it sounds amazing due to the DAC. Some old phone features trounce the newer breeds. SOME DO🤣 Great video👍🏼
All iPhones on their release year firmwares are lightning fast. It's the next iOS updates that slow the phones down significantly. (Though I'd say the first major update is fine for performance). I've actually done a test on my iPad Air 2, I've let it on iOS 8.4 for 5 years, it didn't slow down at all, lightning fast even 5 years later. But then I upgraded to iPadOS 13. And oh boy, did it get slower and full of stutters. I will not do the same mistake on my iPhone SE 2022. I did the iOS 16 update to get access to Metal 3.0 games. But I'm staying on 16.7.2, for the next years to come.
I could say the same thing with many computers of the past decade as long as they have an SSD installed. For general stuff the difference isn't that big
It's the same how Windows 98 PCs on spinning rust can open programs like Explorer or Word just instantly while nowdays you have to wait a moment no matter how fast the hardware It's an absolute shame how software's gotten so bloated on all platforms, apps these days are like half a gigabyte each and for what?!
There's a reason Jim Allchin banned XAML in core system components following the Longhorn debacle. It looks nice, but it's just not performant. I'm not so sure we're ready to try it again in Windows 10 and 11 and maybe-maybe-not 12.
Windows 8(.1) was still usable on spinning rust but Windows 10 is painfully slow. Windows 10 has also got a lot harder to run over the years, older versions didn't change as much in their lifetime
@@KofolaDealer I wish Win10 stayed like it was in the early Technical Previews, basically Win8.1 but with a start menu. It ran great on an old LifeBook T4215 with a C2D T7200, 4GB RAM, GMA 950, 32GB SSD
I really think manufactures should stop releasing a phone every year. The changes are too insignificant and aren't worth all the fuss of making, promoting, and selling the new phone. If planned obsolesce wasn't a thing, people could keep their phones longer and we would probably be seeing new phones release every 2 years or so that have much more meaningful changes.
Crazy thing is I was just saying how my old iPhone 6 Plus on iOS 12 seems more stable than my iPhone 11 on iOS 17. Tim Cook and the current team at Apple should be ashamed of themselves. I stopped being interested in Android and iOS after 2012 and just used both of them back-and-forth but since I’m slowly getting back into the tech world, I still can’t find a phone that is good for me all around without the continuous going back-and-forth between the two operating systems. This my love and hate relationship between the two.
Kinda same. So when I decided on a’new’ phone a lil over a year ago it was the basic iPhone 12 which has been perfect for me in terms of…well… nearly everything.
@@Timberlakelin my iPhone 6 Plus was and is still stable, my iPhone 11 was stable before iOS 16 came out. I personally didn’t start having issues with iOS until 16. 15 and below/before worked surprisingly well for me and that’s just my experience. The more I’ve researched about current issues on iOS is the more I realized that a lot of things are slowly getting better but some kinks need to be corrected before an update was released. Betas seem iffy imho.
Loved the iPhone SE 2016 version. Had everything you need in a compact design that didn't need thumb gymnastics to use. I'm still rocking it and can't complain at all.
I was trained in microprocessors around 1976 or so, part of my career in Telecommunications. I got a Commodore 64 when they came out, and learned to program in Opcodes. By the time Apple turned up, I was working with PCs considered capable with a 40MB hard drive. I remember being impressed by the Apple GUI. Somehow I never warmed to Apple over the years. They seemed to be too focused on the user's impression of the product, in a sort of warping of the "make it user-friendly" design philosophy. They seemed to cultivate users who saw the product as a fashion statement, then put it in their back pocket because they could, then sat on it and broke it..
what you forget to take into account is the fact that the games on the iphone 5 are on an older update and are not as large meaning the extra time it takes to load some games on the 15 is because the game is much larger. also, if you ran very heavy games on both phones there would be a very noticeable difference
This has been the case for around the past 10 maybe more years, for Android, iOS, Windows etc. Just about any device from a decade ago is still capable of running the basic stuff we use nowadays. You can get a computer from 2012, install Linux on it and still browse the web and edit documents perfectly fine. Though the iPhone 5 will struggle running any new games and apps made for the iPhone 15, the 15 pro even has ray tracing. Its weird that Apple of all companies is the only one that keeps that form factor still alive, which I personally prefer, in the form of the SE. I cant find any Android phone that is as small and easy to use as the SE, while not making massive sacrifices in other areas. Even the Samsung S23 or Pixel 7a are both quite a bit larger, with screens that are a lot larger than the SE, meaning that you cant go from one corner of the screen to another with your hand still in the same position.
I have my old rig with Phenom 965, 8 GB RAM, 250 GB SSD and with plugin for chrome / to force youtube use older codec / it is normal browsing experience.
Windows 7 operates seamlessly on older computers without bothersome updates interrupting your work. It spares you from intrusive OneDrive advertisements prompting PC backups and supports a wide array of applications.
Could the animation duration be impacted by the adjustable refresh screen rate? Example: macbooks with 120hz displays notoriously play the space switch animation for twice as long as the system and the display fight over setting the frame rate. This can only be fixed with yabai. Could the same bug be present on the iPhone?
iOS peaked at version 6, still have my iPad 2 with that somewere. It slowly got better with iOS 10 and later, but 7 to 9 was a really slow pain with some weird graphic effects.
I loved the iPhone 5 and eventually upgraded to a first gen SE. The SE was my last iPhone. I hated the form factor of the next gen phones and decided to switch to Android. Samsung support is categorically better than Apple. My wife is still using a 3+ year old Galaxy phone that runs perfectly and still gets updates. I used to be an Apple fanboy, using Macs, iPads and iPhones. Not anymore. I still use a Mac, but I'm all Android with my handheld devices now. To me, it seems like Apple has dropped the ball they once carried.
I still feel like the iPhone 5 and iPhone 5S were one of my favorite iterations of the iPhone, the size fit in my back pocket with out sticking out the top and the all aluminum body was beautiful.
In case some people haven’t realized, tech advancements, be it software or hardware are an eternal game of cat and mouse. The more powerful the hardware becomes the harder the software pushes it, the goal cannot be to make it faster than previous generations, but to do more processing and graphics while being as comfortable to use as possible, I have commented to Hugh in the past that “obsolescence is not an Apple problem, but the nature of the tech industry, because what pushes companies to innovate also pushes past tech to not be as useful anymore” the best solution is to have a life plan for the device with software and hardware support as long as possible, to which Apple does a decent job.
Yeah Hugh does a mix of cool repair videos, but also a lot of silly videos complaining about Apple. Like you said a lot of things are faults of tech in general.
The main thing is that after refining the essentials (which was around iOS 6-7 era), Apple took a different approach and started adding bloatware (like the huge ui icons in some apps, and clutterish interface in general), apparently they tried to mimic android but actually failed miserably. The worst thing they really left no choice for the users (being able to choose the classic view). There was a somewhat recent change in IpadOS 14 to 15 transition, when they removed 1 application column on the homescreen in order to "accommodate the widgets to match the aesthetics"... And they left a lot of blank wasted space, which is pretty much a downgrade (remains unresolved to this day in iPadOS 17). Downgrading is ofc restricted as always (classic Apple), and the iOS 14 is about to be nuked in terms of app support.
I personally think, the UI/menus look a lot better on the older model. On the 15, it's all the same these days, beyond boring white screen with black text. Yeah, readability is maximized, but was it hard to read back in the day? I don't think so. These menus are asking you get out of them as quick as possible.
I believe the applications and games now are more demanding in terms of CPU power and Graphics. So maybe that's why some older version of apps and games in the iPhone5 loads almost the same time with the iP15pro.
Clearly not beaten by the iPhone 5 in any aspect. Those are animation times, no actual content is loaded by the 15 Pro in viewed times, as it already has the content ready to deliver. It's a basic apple design thing to have info delivered consistently. For apple it would seem to be a negative, that humans have the settings page open within 10s of milliseconds instead of the artificial hundreds of ms.
That's why Apple goes out of its way to force you to upgrade and lock you out of the activation until you upgrade to the only version approved by Apple. If anyone could easily downgrade - they wouldn't be able to claim on those performance gains, just because things don't get faster - older devices get slowed down instead
2:22 exiting apps on the iPhone 5 is only slower because the action has a delay for the double tap gesture to get into the multitasking view, not due to performance.
I remember clearly in 2013 ios 7 beta 1 getting announced, and I remember trying it and thinking 🤦♂️ the future of iPhones is this flat crap!? Here we are 10 years later, and ios 6 still looking just as good as the last day supported.
The iPhone five really is aesthetic perfection, to this day I still love the iPhone 5 design and I don't even use apple products. It's definitely between this and the Samsung galaxy s5
Currently I have two phones, a 6 year old Moto G5 and a new Hammer 4. The latter is a weird one that was gifted to me, but a good reference of a similarly budget Android 12 phone. But I keep using the G5 as my main phone, as even with Android 7, 2GB of RAM and a slower processor, it feels the same in use. Overall both phones feel about equal, thus making the one I'm already familiar with the one I keep in use. There are quite a few things this older phone can't do anymore or it struggles with, banking apps and browsing the web respectively, but I don't need this often enough to matter for me. "If the hardware meets the requirements and the requirements don't change, why should the hardware change?"
Banking apps require regular security updates in order to meet their protection standards, that's why the banking apps are immediately gets unsupported right after the phone no longer gets security updates
@@sihamhamda47this is false, at least for my banking app. This used to work perfectly fine on a ROM that hasn't been updated since 2017. Until a timebomb flag was set to block all Android 7 devices, Android 8 still being listed as supported. I'm actually fairly certain that the app would still work if this trigger gets hacked out, another less crucial app from the same bank does work after breaking it's no-go popup by timing some taps well.
1:53 I don’t know how accurate that first “speed test” is because of non linear animations. Sure, the animation is finished quicker on the 5, but you can tap an app right away, even before the animation has barely begun, on the 15 (or any iOS 11 or newer device I think). On the 5, you could probably tap something before it’s finished, but it’ll only start the app opening animation once the unlock animation is done
The iPhone 15 Pro is the worst iPhone Apple has ever shat out. It overheats, thermal throttles because of it, uses a janky USB-C connector (that has already broken from just normal use on one of my freinds) and breaks stupidly easily. Awful. Hope they do better next year.
The iPhone 5 can update up to iOS 10 and the 5 doesn’t run that bad on iOS 9. Even though performance will get worse. You’re probably thinking the 5 as a 4s.
The best part about a imphoney is when it breaks and it can't be repaired 😂 or you loose all data and need to connect to apple remotely to change a battery pack or a screen or a button 😂😂 the best imphoney is a broken imphoney!!
Hugh Jefferys I’m a huge fan of yours. I have a 13 pro max that is destroyed. I really don’t have any use for it but I’ll sell it for a cheap price. Not iCloud lock or anything just badly damaged.
I have a 128 GB 6s Plus. I actually got it recently, around 3 months ago, from a trade-in company in mint condition... and it owes nothing to a low end Android. Perfectly usable device, even almost 9 years on.
How bloatware and telemetry continuesly f with with your life and control over your "OWN" Device. And less innovation too considering it's that certain fruit company.
Not bad, and more to the point, I'm amazed that there are still iPhone 5's that still have their factory version of iOS that haven't been upgraded! I also wouldn't bother upgrading an iPhone 5 because the latest version of iOS for the iPhone 5 still won't support modern apps. If I had to pick my favorite iPhone (not that I've used any), it would have to be the iPhone 6S. The newest device which was still consumer friendly. The 7 dropped the headphone jack (and started the whole industry on doing this, and not just with phones) whilst the 8 (and X) started introducing those horrific software locks which Apple are famous for today.
I had a 6s for about 6 years. Replaced it with a 12. I was holding out in part due to the headphone jack (really, I just didn't see a reason to upgrade it). I ended up not minding using a "lightning to 3.5mm" dongle on my 12 honestly. I'll probably keep this phone for at least as long, maybe longer (so long as they still support battery replacements).
It's possible to downgrade iPhone 5's to iOS 6. If you saved blobs from back then, you can downgrade untethered, otherwise you can tethered downgrade. Or use coolbooter to dual-boot.
@@jayzn1931 probably has to do with repairing the phone could cause the software to not recognize new screen, fingerprint scanner, etc... and lock certain features such as the True Tone (which changes the screen color to be warmer).
First iPhone with lightning and first iPhone with usb-c
Kind of ironic, eh?
@@TheSpotify95no
@@EDV8ZR1I would give a C- lmao
@@clothinghanger6978 What do you prefer C plus plus for coding?
@@EDV8ZR1 C? for coding? Maybe sarcasm but yeah🤣🤣
It's crazy how you can see the iPhone 5 running iOS 6, and see the similarly looking iPhone SE (first generation) with iOS 15, and compare them side by side, and both look like the same phone.
yeah The iPhone se is literally the iPhone 5 but with the internal components of the iPhone 6S
@@SNLOOB*5s, not 5
I made my iPhone 5 on iOS 10.3.4 look similar to iOS 15 on the iPhone SE. it works better with an iPhone 5s on iOS 12. More tweaks including the widgets. I actually compared my iPhone 5s on iOS 12 with tweaks to my friends iPhone SE on iOS 15. Very close to each other just iOS 12 can’t do some things iOS 15 can.
@@SNLOOBactually more like the iPhone 5s. I actually used my old iPhone 5s LCD (my iPhone 5s got the red screen) to replace my friends broken iPhone SE 1 screen. I’ve also used iPhone 8 displays on iPhone SE 2 and vice versa. The only thing is if you use an iPhone SE 2/3 display on an iPhone 8, you lose 3D Touch as the iPhone SE 2/3 didn’t have the special layer in the displays. iPhone 5s and SE 1 displays are just about the same though, as neither had 3D Touch in the first place.
It’s really not that crazy lol
Crazy to see how the iPhone 5 even after 11 years can hold its ground against the iPhone 15 Pro in some aspects. The nostalgia of iOS 6 and the design of the 5 still stand out
Do you realize opening and closing apps is nothing? Now try to do something requiring and see how to iPhone 5 will piss itself to the 15 pro.
@@hankagura5355omg me when a phone outperforms an 11 year old phone in some aspects😱😱
Every iPhone holds its ground with the original iOS that it was released with. iPhones slow down after iOS updates.
Yeah, the 11 yrs of innovation of speed is quite mind blowing 😂
@@MrAdhiSuryana Try to use a demanding modern app on your old phone go ahead try.
I honestly think we hit a speed plateau, newer phones might be "15% faster" but it was already a 200ms loading screen so 15% just means 30 less milliseconds which is basically imperceptible anyways. It makes sense that apple would throttle phones to make new ones seem even faster when the increase is imperceptible otherwise
It's more the efficiency, but coming from Apple it's very possible just to be BS. Although depending on what you're comparing it to and what you use it for it does make a difference. Example is pixel runs honkai star rail and others kind like crap but the s23 plus runs them maxed out amazingly and uses less power and less heat. However if you do not play games any phone made in the last 4-5 years you won't notice much in terms of performance.
@@Abadeez I meant comparing, let's say an iphone 14 pro max, to an iphone 15 pro max, the speed increase is basically impossible to detect.
Old flagship vs new flagship basically
The speed up is more imperceptable thanks to software bloat.
The speed up is more imperceptable thanks to software bloat.
The speed up is more imperceptable thanks to software bloat.
my first iphone was a 6S bought used in 2016. Used that phone until 2021 when I upgraded to a used 12 mini. That phone was amazing, and never felt slow! My mother still uses it to this day :D
Actually this is the first time I've learned about the splash screen trick, very neat programming! Functionally it doesn't matter if the menu is loaded this fast because as a human you can't make decisions that fast, but what matters is how quickly you start seeing it, which is achievable with a splash screen. Kinda reminds me of the infinite FPS trick in 3d games, where each real frame the picture is rendered into a 2d image that is shown in 3d like a billboard, with few additional tricks. Provided that you don't move your camera around like crazy, this will give you the ability to adjust your aim in ultra smooth 999+ fps while realistically having 15 real fps of full 3d graphics.
the problem is that its false information, and you cant do anything with a splash screen. id rather see nothing if nothing is ready, but it is more "fluid" between i guess. you cant act that quickly but the "2 loads" is a bit jarring imo
@@tylerlogsdon8623It’s not really false, the layout is the same so it allows you to start planning where to put your finger next
Edit: Actually the layout does shift a bit but I still think it’s helpful
I tested it just now and it's actually not a splash screen. As soon as stuff shows up, you can already scroll. There's just stuff that gets rearranged after you open the app, but it is possible to scroll before that happens, so the app really is already loaded, it's not just a splash screen.
The iPhone 5 uses the splash screen trick too. As soon as you open an app a picture is displayed until the app is loaded properly. The picture is usually the unpopulated background.
Each app had a ‘Default.png’ file seemingly from day 1 of iPhone OS, which was a barebones screenshot of the app; intended to make the app appear to launch faster.
These days there’s still a modern equivalent of ‘Default.png’, but the devices are so fast that …what you see essentially immediately …is actually the app running.
As others have said above, the Settings app seemingly *was* actually running at launch in the video- it just loads things like Wi-Fi status afterwards.
they even cut down on the stickers lmao
That is iphone 5 is worth 10 million dollars
Now they don't include the stickers at all with the 16 series. Unbelievably scummy company.
Man, seeing the skeuomorphic iOS 6 OS is nostalgic!
Scott Forestall's design left a legacy that marked an era. If his ego alongside the Apple Maps incident hadn't occur, maybe we could be living in skeuomorphic 3.0 instead of the current trend for minimalistic UI that sometimes is confusing due to the lack of context.
Skeumorphism made the Frutiger Aero era so iconic. I wish we could go back.
@@Just-View"Confusing due to lack of context"??? Jony Ive's simplistic design simply aged better than the realistic approach of Scott. One is objectively superior there is no argument.
@@hankagura5355 While I don’t truly believe in an “objectively better” design (though I prefer current iOS), I will say that something is wrong with your ability to use a device if you can’t keep up with modern iOS conventions.
@@proallnighter I’d say Aero Glass from Windows Vista/7 was the most iconic but iOS skeumorphism is a runner up. Honestly Aero Glass aged really well, it still looks incredibly sleek imo. I also quite like iOS skeumorphism though.
Man I just wish iOS had the option to truly eliminate all animations like Android does. No fading, no fancy transitions, no delay. Just click something and it's opened. Makes a world of difference when trying to be productive.
If im completely honest, my favorite iPhone of all time is the iPhone 5S. Touch ID was introduced, and jailbreaking was at its peak in my opinion. That and at its time it was just a really solid phone with minimal compromises. I currently main an SE 2, but it isnt the same. I miss having a headphone jack and a smaller form factor.
How about the iPhone SE 1st Gen it's the iPhone 5s but more powerful
@@SNLOOB Some people need the most recent version of iOS for work or whatever, maybe that's why
I'm of the opinion that it was the perfect size for a smartphone, and why I lament that they stopped making the mini. *Everyone* I talk to complains about how big phones have gotten, yet the only options on the market are either older models, or ones with enormous compromises.
I would say the 6s. By far the best performance phone they ever built
Touch ID was pretty bad in the 5s compared to later models.
I still have my iPhone 5S in its box in my office. Every once in awhile I'll pull it out and have a look. It's amazing how small it is compared to phones today. It was definitely a simpler time. The 5S is still a beautiful phone (and the 5), but time has marched on. Thanks for the video.
And at one time Apple called it "Our best phone yet!" lol
Can we all just talk about how Hugh absolutely smashed every single game while playing on BOTH phones at the same time?
Not to mention that perfect Flappy Bird run 😂
I think i got 25 points once
Bro deleted flappy bird try hard
iOS 6 was a technical marvel. I have never used a piece of software as refined, stable and fast as iOS 6. Apple has never topped it and I doubt they ever will since practically the entire team that was responsible for iOS 6 is no longer with Apple. People get caught up in the visual design of 6 and prior, but they don't understand how incredibly basic and simple the system actually is. iOS 7 gave the illusion that it was simpler, but it added way more complexity to the system.
is no one going to talk about that unbeaten unhinged godlike flappy bird gameplay?
My dad’s old iPhone 4 on 7.1.2 with the original battery somehow runs faster than my school’s iPad on iOS 17
iOS 17, thats why
@@microsoft.co.u 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 you got me
I have an iPhone 4 with iOS 7.1.2, it's not fast. Cmon
the 4 is literally infamous for being slow on ios 7
@@Sushi2 true, even that and it still is faster than my iPad
I have an iPhone 14 max, but re-bought an old HTC M10 for £30, just to use as an MP3 player and it sounds amazing due to the DAC. Some old phone features trounce the newer breeds. SOME DO🤣 Great video👍🏼
Boom sound
How do u deal with the battery ? Is it still using original battery or refurbished ?
@@uthopia27 It had been replaced by the previous owner👍🏻
I miss my iPhone 5 and iOS 6 that slide to unlock hits different
All iPhones on their release year firmwares are lightning fast.
It's the next iOS updates that slow the phones down significantly. (Though I'd say the first major update is fine for performance).
I've actually done a test on my iPad Air 2, I've let it on iOS 8.4 for 5 years, it didn't slow down at all, lightning fast even 5 years later.
But then I upgraded to iPadOS 13. And oh boy, did it get slower and full of stutters.
I will not do the same mistake on my iPhone SE 2022.
I did the iOS 16 update to get access to Metal 3.0 games. But I'm staying on 16.7.2, for the next years to come.
I could say the same thing with many computers of the past decade as long as they have an SSD installed. For general stuff the difference isn't that big
For Word and Chrome and thats about it
@@theshirtlesspuma2816 Playing videos at 1080p and basic image editing is also easily done on a 10 year old computer with the right software.
This just goes to show how long a phone could last if it wasn't for the manufacturers planned obsolescence
and function stayed exactly the same
15 year old laptops are still useable with linux so if only phones had the same open ecosystem as PC's do
@@captainheat2314dare I say there usable with endows.
Yes@@captainheat2314
Why should Apple support an over 10 year old phone? This is an ignorant statement.
It's the same how Windows 98 PCs on spinning rust can open programs like Explorer or Word just instantly while nowdays you have to wait a moment no matter how fast the hardware
It's an absolute shame how software's gotten so bloated on all platforms, apps these days are like half a gigabyte each and for what?!
There's a reason Jim Allchin banned XAML in core system components following the Longhorn debacle. It looks nice, but it's just not performant. I'm not so sure we're ready to try it again in Windows 10 and 11 and maybe-maybe-not 12.
Windows 8(.1) was still usable on spinning rust but Windows 10 is painfully slow. Windows 10 has also got a lot harder to run over the years, older versions didn't change as much in their lifetime
@@Pasi123 Windows 8.1 is faster than Windows 7. It's a shame they screwed up the performance so much in Windows 10
@@KofolaDealer I wish Win10 stayed like it was in the early Technical Previews, basically Win8.1 but with a start menu.
It ran great on an old LifeBook T4215 with a C2D T7200, 4GB RAM, GMA 950, 32GB SSD
for what? most apps include a whole browser with them
I really think manufactures should stop releasing a phone every year. The changes are too insignificant and aren't worth all the fuss of making, promoting, and selling the new phone. If planned obsolesce wasn't a thing, people could keep their phones longer and we would probably be seeing new phones release every 2 years or so that have much more meaningful changes.
4:19 The old UI is simply better just for 1 thing.
Memories!!!
Introducing the brand new nostalgiaPhone 5
Crazy thing is I was just saying how my old iPhone 6 Plus on iOS 12 seems more stable than my iPhone 11 on iOS 17. Tim Cook and the current team at Apple should be ashamed of themselves. I stopped being interested in Android and iOS after 2012 and just used both of them back-and-forth but since I’m slowly getting back into the tech world, I still can’t find a phone that is good for me all around without the continuous going back-and-forth between the two operating systems. This my love and hate relationship between the two.
iOS 12 was peak iOS
same here.
Mine ipjone 6s
Kinda same. So when I decided on a’new’ phone a lil over a year ago it was the basic iPhone 12 which has been perfect for me in terms of…well… nearly everything.
You're smoking the Iphone 6 Plus is the most laggy iphone ever made.
@@Timberlakelin my iPhone 6 Plus was and is still stable, my iPhone 11 was stable before iOS 16 came out. I personally didn’t start having issues with iOS until 16. 15 and below/before worked surprisingly well for me and that’s just my experience. The more I’ve researched about current issues on iOS is the more I realized that a lot of things are slowly getting better but some kinks need to be corrected before an update was released. Betas seem iffy imho.
Loved the iPhone SE 2016 version. Had everything you need in a compact design that didn't need thumb gymnastics to use.
I'm still rocking it and can't complain at all.
How i wish i could relive those years again and watch all the iPhone keynotes for the first time once more beginning with the O.G. iPhone
I was trained in microprocessors around 1976 or so, part of my career in Telecommunications. I got a Commodore 64 when they came out, and learned to program in Opcodes. By the time Apple turned up, I was working with PCs considered capable with a 40MB hard drive. I remember being impressed by the Apple GUI.
Somehow I never warmed to Apple over the years. They seemed to be too focused on the user's impression of the product, in a sort of warping of the "make it user-friendly" design philosophy. They seemed to cultivate users who saw the product as a fashion statement, then put it in their back pocket because they could, then sat on it and broke it..
Sir thats amazing to hesr
Wonderful! 👏
what you forget to take into account is the fact that the games on the iphone 5 are on an older update and are not as large meaning the extra time it takes to load some games on the 15 is because the game is much larger. also, if you ran very heavy games on both phones there would be a very noticeable difference
This has been the case for around the past 10 maybe more years, for Android, iOS, Windows etc. Just about any device from a decade ago is still capable of running the basic stuff we use nowadays. You can get a computer from 2012, install Linux on it and still browse the web and edit documents perfectly fine. Though the iPhone 5 will struggle running any new games and apps made for the iPhone 15, the 15 pro even has ray tracing.
Its weird that Apple of all companies is the only one that keeps that form factor still alive, which I personally prefer, in the form of the SE. I cant find any Android phone that is as small and easy to use as the SE, while not making massive sacrifices in other areas. Even the Samsung S23 or Pixel 7a are both quite a bit larger, with screens that are a lot larger than the SE, meaning that you cant go from one corner of the screen to another with your hand still in the same position.
I have my old rig with Phenom 965, 8 GB RAM, 250 GB SSD and with plugin for chrome / to force youtube use older codec / it is normal browsing experience.
Windows 7 operates seamlessly on older computers without bothersome updates interrupting your work. It spares you from intrusive OneDrive advertisements prompting PC backups and supports a wide array of applications.
Could the animation duration be impacted by the adjustable refresh screen rate? Example: macbooks with 120hz displays notoriously play the space switch animation for twice as long as the system and the display fight over setting the frame rate. This can only be fixed with yabai. Could the same bug be present on the iPhone?
I went from a iPhone 6 to the iPhone 11 Pro and I noticed a significant improvement in load up time and performance
I was bitter when Apple throttled then dropped support on my 4s, 5, and 6. It would have been easy to give them support for say 10 years.
They got 7 years and they're old
If only apple let you downgrade ios versions
A lot of mobile phone software has also just gotten more complex over the years.
Oh, and with EVEN MORE ads....
iOS peaked at version 6, still have my iPad 2 with that somewere.
It slowly got better with iOS 10 and later, but 7 to 9 was a really slow pain with some weird graphic effects.
I loved the iPhone 5 and eventually upgraded to a first gen SE. The SE was my last iPhone. I hated the form factor of the next gen phones and decided to switch to Android. Samsung support is categorically better than Apple. My wife is still using a 3+ year old Galaxy phone that runs perfectly and still gets updates. I used to be an Apple fanboy, using Macs, iPads and iPhones. Not anymore. I still use a Mac, but I'm all Android with my handheld devices now. To me, it seems like Apple has dropped the ball they once carried.
Reminds of your old videos about old iPhone collection.
I still feel like the iPhone 5 and iPhone 5S were one of my favorite iterations of the iPhone, the size fit in my back pocket with out sticking out the top and the all aluminum body was beautiful.
Don t forget the SE 2016 😅
I loved the 5c
In case some people haven’t realized, tech advancements, be it software or hardware are an eternal game of cat and mouse. The more powerful the hardware becomes the harder the software pushes it, the goal cannot be to make it faster than previous generations, but to do more processing and graphics while being as comfortable to use as possible, I have commented to Hugh in the past that “obsolescence is not an Apple problem, but the nature of the tech industry, because what pushes companies to innovate also pushes past tech to not be as useful anymore” the best solution is to have a life plan for the device with software and hardware support as long as possible, to which Apple does a decent job.
Yeah Hugh does a mix of cool repair videos, but also a lot of silly videos complaining about Apple. Like you said a lot of things are faults of tech in general.
Actually you can use settings before the wifi pops up so it is slightly faster
It is honestly shocking to see the iPhone 5 outperformed the iPhone 15 Pro In some aspects. Also, Merry Christmas, Hugh!
The main thing is that after refining the essentials (which was around iOS 6-7 era), Apple took a different approach and started adding bloatware (like the huge ui icons in some apps, and clutterish interface in general), apparently they tried to mimic android but actually failed miserably. The worst thing they really left no choice for the users (being able to choose the classic view).
There was a somewhat recent change in IpadOS 14 to 15 transition, when they removed 1 application column on the homescreen in order to "accommodate the widgets to match the aesthetics"... And they left a lot of blank wasted space, which is pretty much a downgrade (remains unresolved to this day in iPadOS 17). Downgrading is ofc restricted as always (classic Apple), and the iOS 14 is about to be nuked in terms of app support.
iPadOS still keeps the different amount of grid icons on any screens without widgets, for what it's worth
I loved how thin the 5 was when I got it
I personally think, the UI/menus look a lot better on the older model. On the 15, it's all the same these days, beyond boring white screen with black text. Yeah, readability is maximized, but was it hard to read back in the day? I don't think so. These menus are asking you get out of them as quick as possible.
Merry Christmas. Happy Holidays.
4:24 Caution! Driving and driving is not advised!
IIRC iOS 7 was the local peak around the era for me.
I believe the applications and games now are more demanding in terms of CPU power and Graphics. So maybe that's why some older version of apps and games in the iPhone5 loads almost the same time with the iP15pro.
Yeah no shit theyre not even comparable, how well the iPhone 5 held up speaks to Apple's design philosophy.
Anyone who has upgraded yearly from the 5 to the 15 should be absolutely gutted. And when they check how much they've spent, they'll weep.
Clearly not beaten by the iPhone 5 in any aspect. Those are animation times, no actual content is loaded by the 15 Pro in viewed times, as it already has the content ready to deliver. It's a basic apple design thing to have info delivered consistently. For apple it would seem to be a negative, that humans have the settings page open within 10s of milliseconds instead of the artificial hundreds of ms.
That's why Apple goes out of its way to force you to upgrade and lock you out of the activation until you upgrade to the only version approved by Apple. If anyone could easily downgrade - they wouldn't be able to claim on those performance gains, just because things don't get faster - older devices get slowed down instead
Longbeachgriffy's IPhone videos makes this so mucb funnier lmao
It makes sense, as soon as the phone 5 is updated to a later software version it is slowed down artificially to make the newer phones seem faster
One thing I realised about my iPhone 11 is that turning off the screen is literally slower than my iPhone 8, what kinda bs is that?!
if you have apple pay or accessibility shortcut enabled it takes longer to turn the display off
Are you still using the Blackberry??
2:22 exiting apps on the iPhone 5 is only slower because the action has a delay for the double tap gesture to get into the multitasking view, not due to performance.
I remember clearly in 2013 ios 7 beta 1 getting announced, and I remember trying it and thinking 🤦♂️ the future of iPhones is this flat crap!?
Here we are 10 years later, and ios 6 still looking just as good as the last day supported.
The iPhone five really is aesthetic perfection, to this day I still love the iPhone 5 design and I don't even use apple products.
It's definitely between this and the Samsung galaxy s5
The peak iPhone was when 5S came out. It became so popular that I still see people walking around with it on a daily basis.
It really shows how obnoxious and ugly the camera bumps are on the newer phones.
Always great work, thanks for the film!
“2 1/2 Iphone 15 boxes tall” same energy as 2 football fields large
Currently I have two phones, a 6 year old Moto G5 and a new Hammer 4.
The latter is a weird one that was gifted to me, but a good reference of a similarly budget Android 12 phone.
But I keep using the G5 as my main phone, as even with Android 7, 2GB of RAM and a slower processor, it feels the same in use.
Overall both phones feel about equal, thus making the one I'm already familiar with the one I keep in use.
There are quite a few things this older phone can't do anymore or it struggles with, banking apps and browsing the web respectively, but I don't need this often enough to matter for me.
"If the hardware meets the requirements and the requirements don't change, why should the hardware change?"
Motorola is a classic, using one rn
Banking apps require regular security updates in order to meet their protection standards, that's why the banking apps are immediately gets unsupported right after the phone no longer gets security updates
@@sihamhamda47this is false, at least for my banking app.
This used to work perfectly fine on a ROM that hasn't been updated since 2017.
Until a timebomb flag was set to block all Android 7 devices, Android 8 still being listed as supported.
I'm actually fairly certain that the app would still work if this trigger gets hacked out, another less crucial app from the same bank does work after breaking it's no-go popup by timing some taps well.
4:32 i can see that hugh is actually the spider man ! he's been hiding identities behind this channel for years now 😱
1:53 I don’t know how accurate that first “speed test” is because of non linear animations. Sure, the animation is finished quicker on the 5, but you can tap an app right away, even before the animation has barely begun, on the 15 (or any iOS 11 or newer device I think). On the 5, you could probably tap something before it’s finished, but it’ll only start the app opening animation once the unlock animation is done
Have a good Xmas Hugh can’t wait to see your new videos next year.😀👍🎄🎁
The iPhone 15 Pro is the worst iPhone Apple has ever shat out. It overheats, thermal throttles because of it, uses a janky USB-C connector (that has already broken from just normal use on one of my freinds) and breaks stupidly easily. Awful. Hope they do better next year.
Update the iPhone 5 to iOS 9, and it will run slow like trash. You can't undo the update.
The iPhone 5 can update up to iOS 10 and the 5 doesn’t run that bad on iOS 9. Even though performance will get worse. You’re probably thinking the 5 as a 4s.
is temple run running at a higher frame rate on the newer phone or is it just placebo?
is it just me or the iPhone 15 was lagging at around 3:16
Sticking with my Note 20 ultra and 1TB sd card. Sony seems to be the only flagship phone viable to me.
The best part about a imphoney is when it breaks and it can't be repaired 😂 or you loose all data and need to connect to apple remotely to change a battery pack or a screen or a button 😂😂 the best imphoney is a broken imphoney!!
For a second I thought the 15 pro was a pro max. Nope the iPhone 5 is just THAT small.
And the 15 pro is tiny for my hands 😂😂
Hugh Jefferys I’m a huge fan of yours. I have a 13 pro max that is destroyed. I really don’t have any use for it but I’ll sell it for a cheap price. Not iCloud lock or anything just badly damaged.
You said smartphones are peaking. So what's the absolute peak before the next big -population control- innovative all-in-one device?
I remember playing car simulator on my iPad gen 2 alongside Minecraft, Wayword Soul, and Crash Drive 2
Still daily driving my iPhone 6S. It's on it's 3rd battery
I have a 128 GB 6s Plus. I actually got it recently, around 3 months ago, from a trade-in company in mint condition... and it owes nothing to a low end Android. Perfectly usable device, even almost 9 years on.
Lol I'm still rocking the OG SE that came after.
ive really noticed a lot of bugs for ios 16 and 17. Freezes, lock ups, glitchy, and touch not responsive.
How bloatware and telemetry continuesly f with with your life and control over your "OWN" Device.
And less innovation too considering it's that certain fruit company.
The size difference between the 5 and the 15 pro... Wish they'd give us a smaller pro phone. Love the size and design of the 5 👌
Not bad, and more to the point, I'm amazed that there are still iPhone 5's that still have their factory version of iOS that haven't been upgraded!
I also wouldn't bother upgrading an iPhone 5 because the latest version of iOS for the iPhone 5 still won't support modern apps.
If I had to pick my favorite iPhone (not that I've used any), it would have to be the iPhone 6S. The newest device which was still consumer friendly. The 7 dropped the headphone jack (and started the whole industry on doing this, and not just with phones) whilst the 8 (and X) started introducing those horrific software locks which Apple are famous for today.
I had a 6s for about 6 years. Replaced it with a 12. I was holding out in part due to the headphone jack (really, I just didn't see a reason to upgrade it).
I ended up not minding using a "lightning to 3.5mm" dongle on my 12 honestly. I'll probably keep this phone for at least as long, maybe longer (so long as they still support battery replacements).
What do you mean by software locks?
@@adaml6793 Probably for many years, it is a solid phone.
It's possible to downgrade iPhone 5's to iOS 6. If you saved blobs from back then, you can downgrade untethered, otherwise you can tethered downgrade. Or use coolbooter to dual-boot.
@@jayzn1931 probably has to do with repairing the phone could cause the software to not recognize new screen, fingerprint scanner, etc... and lock certain features such as the True Tone (which changes the screen color to be warmer).
Still using my iphone 8. Work's like a charm. 😁
My last iPhone was the 4, it's been quite a while!
That 3.5mm audio jack on iphone 5. How I miss these.
As long as it works no need to be replaced
There is no way that you just played around a Flappy Bird like that without you being a robot. Are you a robot?
extreme car simulator was the shit back in the day
pretty sure that iphone 5 power adapter is actually just a 10w ipad adapter or 5w ipod adapter.. hmm
Yeah. Maybe they got something different in Oz.
Tell me you’ve ran out of ideas without telling me that
Farewell iPhone 5 when the 3g network is shut down soon
Arent the ui animations meant to have a certain speed, so it's not affected by processor performance?
This video made me go to ebay and purchase a iPhone 5S.... I miss that phone, truly my favorite iPhone model.
Even if the iPhone 5 opens one game faster than the 15 Pro, it's just a *Miracle*
There haven't been any real new features on smartphones in years, except the steady removal of features with each iteration.
And the steady increase of price
i still remember the day IOS 7 came out and everyone was so hyped about the new re design after 6
Whenever processors speed up and storage space increases...apps just bloat themselves even further to the point it negates all the speed gains...
Good luck Hugh Jeffreys your iPhone 15 pro sadly got beaten by the iPhone 5 due to the speed test
4:36 Damn, you are good at Flappybird! 😉