What do you guys think about arc three? Let me know down below! I'm so excited for The Flames of Hope, and it only comes out in four more days!! Make sure to follow the spoiler policy mentioned at the end of the video.
I completely agree that the some of the dragons from Pantala are complete copies. Reading book 11, 12 and 13 it just felt like reading Sunny, Starflight but more dramatic backstory and Tsunami and Peril combined, as you said. Don't get me wrong, I love Cricket and Sundew is alright... Maybe... (I don't know! I really don't know how I feel about Sundew, Willow and the rest of the LeafWings)
I kinda wish that the chrysalis was more like the rebel group from Warriors: The Broken Code where they actually did stuff besides talking to them and… nothing else
I’m actually really enjoying Arc 3 the most due to it doing so many things right (assuming Book 15 pulls through), like Tui had fully learned from her mistakes of its predecessors. The brand new settings is a breath of fresh air, all the protagonists are fantastic and preserve their character development, none of the antagonists overstay their welcome, every new romance is genuine, the plot is executed phenomenally, the story keeps a very steady pace throughout without getting too slow or too fast, there’s a perfect balance of dark and goofy moments, and there isn’t an overpowered magic system that piles up plot holes. Super unpopular opinion but Arc 3 is my favorite.
Ikr, the romance is arc three is incredible. It's so overlooked, but it has the best couples in the entire series. Tui went from stale couples like Starflight and Fatespeaker to ones that actually feel genuine, like Sundew and Willow and Cricket and Blue.
@Emmanuel Brijandez Torres considering that he was being controlled entirely by the Othermind, I’d say killing him off when his secret was revealed is the perfect time to do it.
Omg ark 3 is my favorite. I just got soooo excited opening up the lost continent and seeing the new map and dragons. I don't understand why people hate it
I love arc three but here are my thoughts on each book so far: The Lost Continent: I love Blue but I wish his character was more developed by the end. The plot was too much with the combination of world building. Some of the events should have been in The Hive Queen to balance both books. The Hive Queen: Very few surprises and I expected more even though the book is the shortest in the series. I liked getting to know Cricket and there were some plot moments that were nice but that didn’t happen until the second half. The Poison Jungle: I loved this book. One of my favorites. I think the problem was more with the characters and their interactions rather than the plot. Hawthorn was a wasted opportunity. The Dangerous Gift: I enjoyed getting to know Snowfall and the truth about Jerboa but this book is basically filler. Didn’t exactly like how scavengers are now a bigger part of the plot. Extra: Yeah the prologues and epilogues are not very good and should have been placed elsewhere in the story. Overall I like this arc but it was kind of shoved in compared the the rest of the series. However I like getting to about new tribes and continent.
I agree with the scavenger part and most of the rest as well. When I realized scavengers were a big part of the plot-line made me pretty disappointed since WoF is a dragon book, not a dragon rider book. Hopefully scavenger plots subside in the future :’)
Arc 3 is my favorite because of the new locations and characters. I loved learning about these new kinds of dragons and their ways of life. There’s so much world building in books 11-13 and they’re definitely my comfort books of the series. And then there’s book 14, which is the perfect crossover between books 1-10 and 11-13. Seriously, this book is as much a sequel to book 10 as it is to book 13. Seeing all these characters from different books finally interacting with each other was amazing.
Personally I think arc 3 is really cool! I think Blue's personality is nice and sweet and I love the romance between him and Cricket. I know hawthorn could have been better in the books tho. Everyone has different opinions tho : )
It's difficult to say for me. I found Arc 3 quite interesting because of the whole new environment. Not to mention Pantala's Victorian-style development compared to the medieval settings of Pyrrhia. In my opinion, this is the reason Arc 3 is less exciting for most of us readers. We were used to the old-fashioned setting of Pyrrhia, where everyone lived in kingdoms. On Pantala, however, dragons have come a long way and arguably live in skyscrapers. Modern outtakes of fantasy worlds tend to feel a bit awkward to some, if not most, people including myself. Especially here where Pantala and Pyrrhia are in two completely different stages of development of civilisation
The Lost Continent was disappointing. The Hive Queen was entertaining. The Poison Jungle was thrilling. The Dangerous Gift was bad. The Flames of Hope was worse.
I actually really like arc 3, although I would change a few things, its really entertaining. Now this is going to be a really unpopular opinion, I like arc 3 more than arc 1. I just don't really like the characters. In arc 3, yes, Blue is a copy of Sunny, and I don't like him that much, but I love Cricket, and book 14 is really fun to read. We haven't gotten anything like Queen Wasp before in Wings Of Fire. But, my opinion is still wavering because I haven't read book 15.
Honestly, given how EXTREMELY disappointed I was with how Arc 2 ended (mainly in regards to Darkstalker's fate, contradicting messages and themes, and Moonbli being a thing), I thought Arc 3 was a breath of fresh air and made up for that massive blunder (so far at least, I have yet to read The Dangerous Gift and The Flames of Hope). I haven't read any Wings of Fire books in ages, but I remember thinking that The Lost Continent was one of the weaker entries in the series, and really enjoyed The Hive Queen and loved The Poison Jungle. Will Tui be able to stick the landing for the ending this time unlike Arc 2? I'm hoping so, but I'm being cautious at the same time.
I don't think arc 3 is bad, rather it's interesting and entertaining, and I find the villain of the arc incredible and fascinating (a plant that controls other creatures) and is very different from what we've seen before in the series, and has themes such as dystopian society (with references to 1984), conformism, how the winners alter history, jungles with giant carnivorous plants (like ice age 3), put yourself in someone else's place and see their lives, Forbidden but genuine loves and etc. It is personally, one of my favorite arcs
I love arc 3! It’s my favourite arc, and it has my favourite book! (13) but I agree about blue, he annoys me a lot. I hope we get an arc 4. I also love the ships in it and snowfall’s visions! I wish we knew more about opal (I think that was her name) I keep re reading the sunlo scene because it is the reason book 13 is my favourite
I really like ark 3 but I'm nervous that book 15 is gonna be Winter turning 2.0 because they need to ALLL the way to Pantala and back, also I agree that Blue is sunny 2.0 but he's still a bit cool I'll probably make a video talking about my opinion :D
Everyone: “the flames of hope comes out in 4 days!” Me who’s already read it because for some reason Australia had it and the dangerous gift a week before their release dates: *I am four parallel universes ahead of you.*
@@mothwingthemedicinecat i liked it a lot :D There were some things revealed that i thought wouldnt come, and some things not revealed that i thought would come All im gonna say the the luna x cricket shippers will rise
I agree Arc 3 has been very underwhelming. I lowkey agree that the Poison jungle story was filler book but I think we got some very insightful revelations and plot progressions in it like knowing where the leafwings have been living, understanding what makes the Poison jungle so dangerous, Leafspeak, Io is alive, Origins of the breath of evil, a small adventure finding the breath of evil, Hope for an antidote then major uno reverse card plottwist and then a pretty awesome cliffhanger!(I started reading WOF in 2020 and I can't imagine having to read this in 2019 and surive till 2021 to complete the story). But TBF I read the books & then listened to the audio book after so I get a more rounded view of the story and writing wise it was the most coherent and complete book of arc 3 for me but will agree Sundew is a carbon copy of Tsunami. Hive Queen felt like the Lost continent with blue replaced for Cricket and The Dangerous Gift, Snowfall is my absolute favourite Protag of Arc 3 but it felt like a montage of other Dragons perspectives most of the time especially Jerboas chapters at the end it definatly left me with wanting more snowfall. The Lost Continent was super wierd, I didn't like blue and took me a while to adjust my mind when I was reading it, I just couldn't imagine a hive city properly without thinking of roads with cars on them and I have so many questions like did the hive wings technology? I remember they had some kind of arm band that activates remotely to inject venom like WHAT??? feels also like Tui tried to create an entire world too rushed and manufactured too many random conflicts to make us care about these random side characters like Io, Bryony, Greyling & hemlock.
@@Dogloverlikesdoge Not sure if you have the same thoughts but I have a small theory that a huge scene was Cut from The Dangerous gift and wanted your thoughts on it. It was the selection of the secret stealth team and the huge ceremony around pages 252-253. I think there was more drama there but I think Tui didn't anticipate that Jerboas backstory was going to be so long so she had to pick and choose which scene to cut. I could be crazy but yeah feel free to agree or disagree haha! I don't have many WOF friends to discuss these topics with=(...
I don't remember the chapter of the Dangerous gift but Spoilers: I like arc three but I'm a bit worried that the series is going to try to redeem Wasp. In the Dangerous gift when Snowfall is in Blue's head Wasp for some reason talks about how why she is the way she is and how when was child she was afraid that the Silkwings and Leafwings we're going to hurt the Hivewings so she took them over and said about them being evil and she took them over and was being the most evil of all
I'll be really disappointed if the dragonets are just like "bUt wE caN't kIlL hEr" Wasp is a murderer who mind controlled THOUSANDS of dragons. Probably even millions. I know it's a kids series and a lot of the other dragonets will feel all mushy and heroic about giving her a second chance or at least keeping her alive, but she needs to die for what she's done.
@@Dogloverlikesdogelol kinda late to the party but what they did was kinda worse. Shoving her into a prison she made for her enslaved subjects, and, as she is the otherminds only host now, the plant will drive her completely insane. Aegean did a drawing featuring this concept and you should totally check it out. I love ur content!
**SPOLIER WARNING FOR BOOKS 11-14** I actually have almost the complete opposite opinion! I like the first three books but could hardly start book 14 (though it did get better as the book went on (tbh it felt like book 14 WAS the filler book compared to the others lol)) I like Blue's character because, he is Brainwashed (kinda-sorta), his whole life he has been oppressed by the HiveWings, forced to live as a lower class citizen, and over the book he has to unlearn his entire world view as he goes on this unexpected adventure cross-continent while he still doesn't have his wings (which is a fascinating concept btw, dragons not getting their wings until they're older?? I would LOVE a winglet from the pov of a young SilkWing and their life during the time they don't have their wings, Tui gave us some details on this but still!) And the entire thing with his dad and the other flamesilks? Sheeeeessshh, do NOT want to be Blue! I like Cricket do to her personality, a courios young dragon who wants to to learn everything that she can (honestly I feel like Cricket is more like Sunny then Blue is but thats just me) and also, do you not have any older siblings?! Because if *I* found out that my sibling was not my sibling and was my MOM and my fake-mom had been abusing me my whole life, I'd be pretty upset!! Like WHAT? It's world shattering! Sundew is my seconed faviorte, only behind My Queen of Fire Peril. Sundew is just so relatable to me, she just wants to live her life and love Willow but her parents keep soufacting her, and Hawthorn is completely slept on imo, he was banished from his tribe and left to rot, the only thing that kept him company is an evil voice inside his head that he can't get rid of. That's HORRIFYING! Having your mind being slowly striped away as you can't talk to anyone besides the voice inside your head. Horrifying. Book 14 was just sortta boring to me. Snowfall felt pretty boring and flat, Lynx is my baby and I'll fight anyone on that. The most interesting part was the dream sequances and the twist that the ring was alive. And Winter finding out about Wren and Sky was hallriours! But these are just my opinions on the books and I just wanter to share them
Arc three has actually been my favorite and you can really tell how the writing has changed and I don’t I think it was rushed at all and I love Blues pov though Crickets book was definitely my favorite and I don’t really care much about plot twists and stuff like that I mostly just like seeing a character put in a place and watching how they react and I don’t think I was bored once while reading the arc three books and I disagree with the fact that you think a lot of characters are basically copies of other characters as for me they don’t feel like that at all
Personally, I love arc three! I know it's not all that put together, but it's as put together as the third arc of a dragon book can be. I fell in love with the characters almost immediately. They just stole my heart, while the 1st and 2nd arc took me a bit longer. ( with a few exceptions ) probably my most unpopular opinion is my favorite arc is the third!
... I don't care, it's my favorite arc It relieves ALL of the drama from the Distant Kingdoms, and I actually was yelling: "WHAT?!! WHOA!!" at Katydid being Cricket's mother, and I was not being sarcastic or faking it at all! And... people may scream at me but... I think arc 1 and 2 are... Idk... Kinda boring? *_Now I will be expecting some really pssed off replies now UvU_* It's my opinion though
It isn't bad. It's just unnecessary. Honestly, you could take Pantala out of WoF and literally nothing changes except a bit of tweaking at the end of Darkstalker and Darkness of Dragons.
I SO agree with you!! The dangerous gift is literally one of my favorite books in the series. Although it was mainly about Snowfall thinking, I like her character development. But, I do have to disagree with you on Sundew, she is probably my favorite character on Pantala, she is very fierce and will protect her own without hesitation, and she can be quite kind at times. It's totally fine if u disagree, I just wanted to explain my thoughts and feelings. Thank you so much for this video! It was great! 👍👏
Snowfall is literally one of the best characters in Wings of Fire, and the fact that she progressed so much with her character development in one book is incredible.
Arc three is the biggest roller coaster in terms of quality for me, book one lost me immediately, but after some pressure I finished it and read book two, which was substantially better. Book three was AMAZING with an incredible ending that left me on the edge of my seat, while book four probably should've taken half the time it did and the rest could be devoted to developing the protagonists with their interactions on this strange new place. No spoilers (I got it early) but I loved book 5. Once it comes out, I can't wait to see everyone else's thoughts.
Personally I really liked blue as a protagonist, I liked his character development in that book, and I didn't really think he was a copy of Sunny, Sunny it pretty different. After his book tho he was pretty stale tbh
I really like how scavengers are now not going to get eaten (as much). Tui is shaking things up, and it's great! I'm glad it happened because it makes me think this won't be a warriors situation.
I love arc 3, I love it. I only dislike The lost continent because of the mistakes.. their quite clear to notice. Where do the webs go on the cover? Why is there TWO different covers?!! Otherwise, love the webs. But they need to stress more the interior of the webs, and hives. Like- HOW AM I SUPPOSED TO IMAGINE THEM! I hope, but also don't, like in a not wanting but I want to be sad about it sorta way. Want tsunami to die in 15.
This is why I have a personal AU about the events on Pantala, excluding most of the canon characters. I’ll explain one part; The Tree Wars: (Now know I haven’t read arc 3, so this will probably be very different). Monarch, Wasp, and Sequoia have been made queen of their respective tribes. Monarch is a care-free dragon, but cares deeply about her SilkWings. Sequoia is a strict and judgmental monarch who tries to rule with wisdom and justice. And Wasp is a dragon who seems emotionless at first, but deep down *does* care about her tribe. HiveWings and LeafWings in this Pantala have a long history of hatred for each other. Wasp and Sequoia are no different. Sequoia wants the LeafWings to control the other tribes. After all, they are the only ones who can keep the Breath of Evil at bay. Wasp wants to control the other tribes as well, but because she thinks her hive system is the best way to live. The three queens meet together to discuss and hopefully smooth out the discourse, but instead Wasp and Sequoia grow more bitter with each meeting. Finally, Sequoia and Hawthorn plan in secret to use the Breath of Evil as a threat to make Wasp and Monarch obey their commands. But Wasp’s spies hear about this, and report this plan to her. She decides to launch a counter attack, and starts planning. But one day, as she was walking along a well-trodden path, a little plant on the walkway looked eerily familiar. It was the Breath of Evil. Wouldn’t it be poetic if Wasp used the very thing supposed to destroy her to destroy her attackers? And thus, the Tree Wars began. The power this plant gave her drove Wasp insane, and she commanded the flamesilks to destroy the forests (the SilkWings were under Wasp’s rule by now). The LeafWings fought back though, and Sequoia killed Wasp herself… or so she thought. You see, this plant wasn’t any other plant. It was similar to the cordyceps fungus, but could control much larger things than just insects. It was what made Wasp mentally unstable enough to do things she would never do by herself (ex. Destroy the very forest all the dragon tribes depended on). But now, with no brain to “control” the Breath, it could use Wasp’s body and any other dragon it could get its spores on as puppets to do its own bidding. That being to continue populating until nothing was left. (Yes, I was inspired by ArtisticAngel Lucas. It’s a zombie apocalypse.)
Everyone of these videos are just her hating on Wings of Fire. Appreciate what WOF made possible. For me, wings of fire was an awesome series and I found no flaws, but these videos just say how horrible it is no matter how many times this person says that she respects wings of fire. 😢
i actually liked arc 3, but well, i gotta admit that the lost continent is not as interesting as it could be, but i do like the hive queen, i never thought of the poison jungle as a filler, i liked it, i don't really like the dangerous gift (mostly because i don't like icewings, except lynx, she is the only icewing that i like) and spoiler (i don't know if i still need to mark it, but i'll do it anyways) it's not a lot of a spoiler, but when i was reading the flames of hope, i had a feeling of reading a history book, which was really boring, when i bought this book i was really excited about it, but when the plot went to the void, i really felt more exhausted of this book after every chapter, i know there's people who liked and i can tell why, it was just not my type of the story
Nobody can change my mind, Arc 3 is on top. I enjoyed the DoD and the Jade Winglet, but I love the characters and story of Arc 3. (Edit the only thing I don't like about Arc 3 is truly Sundew, she just is kinda boring)
@@hollyforman9637 I am not a big fan of the first arc, but book four was really good, I feel kinda bad that they thought Starflight just ran away on them (I think that's how it went, I'm not sure its been a year since I've touched that book)
I thought arc three was amazing. Sundews book is awesome, Tui fully introduced her true feelings that has not happened before. But I understand why you feel other ways, but sundew is not, is NOT, a copy of peril and tsunami. I think the books fit perfectly into the arc.
imo the third arc is straight fire and almost as good as the best for me which is the second arc. book 13-14 are my favorite in the series and 15 is also really good.
Honestly I didn’t like the dangerous gift because of Snowfall’s personality. In Winter turning she seemed a lot darker, colder, and.... smoother I guess? She acted a lot like how cobra lily acts in my opinion, and I feel like snowfall’s franticness and aggressiveness in the dangerous gift wasn’t very exciting, where as if she had a personality like cobra Lily’s I think her perspective could have been more unique.
Also I think animus magic is still gonna be here. Because the spell was to take all animus magic from any dragon who is alive today. TODAY So that’s why in my au, I have at least 2 characters with animus. A mother and her daughter. Luckilly not all of her sibs. But I feel like that dragons will have the inactivated power over animus and they can still pass over the gene! I know a lot of people said that, but I just wanna say this, because why not! And also to the animus lovers who lost hope for a second.
I do love arc 3 but there was downsides too.....In The Lost Continent, when they were in the underground area was kinda a waste of time, we could of used that time to have more time with luna and admiral. Or with the fight against the libraraian. The hive queen was my fav book But those chapters at the beginning was kinda a waste we were just waiting for blue it should've started when blue was out of metamorphosis so we could get more time in jewel hive. Sundew's book was good too But tbh I dont see any downsides.... But the poison jungle is not my fav even know it has no downsides ( the only downside was probs nettle) The dangerous gift WAS AMAZING too.
I understand people might disagree, which is fine but honestly in my opinion arch 3 is my favirote arch, arch 1 was good, arch 2 was good aside from the fact that dark stalker was in it (I HATE DARKSTALKER) but I am really enjoying arch 3!
Ok don’t @ me but am I the only one who thought bumblebee was a boy like I don’t know why but I did and I looked it up after I watched this video and bumblebee is a girl I just thought bumblebee was a boy 😭
I don’t really like arc three. The first two were better. In my opinion, arc two is the best. Arc three, I mean I don’t hate it but I definantly DONT love it. The fact that Phyria had been the main seven tribes, and now there was an enormous change with a whole new continent. Also even though it’s pretty cool I still don’t really like arc three.
Arc 3 is my favorite arc easily. I just reread the whole series and I still just love it the most. I love the characters and plots and TDG is my #1 favorite book and TLC is my #2 favorite book
Book 3 and book 4 and especially book 5 are the most interesting of arch 3. But that’s bad because book 2 and 1 are the beginning books and introduce the setting and situations. They made arch 3 entirely worse. I loved book 3 a lot it was really interesting and I couldn’t put it down; I liked sunlow and thought the two leaf wing villages were cool. As well as book 14. It wasn’t as good, and the middle part of it was kinda filler, but the beginning and end were awsome. I like snowfall. SPOILeRS. Book 15… book 15 omg where to start. Book 15 is probably one of my most fav wof books. I love Luna x swordtail, and I absolutely ADORE the scene where sword and Luna are kids and rebel against the mean hivewing yard aid. I love freedom so much and I feel so bad for her. Im glad Luna renamed her instead of her dieting having cottonmouths chosen name. I wish we got to see more of the epilogue because of how good it was.
Spoiler for book 15 (flames of hope) so if you have not read it yet do not look at the rest of the comment I used to think the third arc was meh but in my opinion i think book 15 was a perfect ending for arc 3. I also think it redeems the arc and i think flames of hope is one of the best if not the best book in the series because it wraps up loose ends that we never got to learn about and we finally got to learn about the scorching, what happened to humans, and what the othermind is
Queen Hazel is a bebe, love her as a queen and I hope sequioa decides to retire if she makes it out of this madness alive, although I do wish sequioa was punished for her involvement in the tree wars and the othermind plot.
Arc 3 was a bit too disappointing and boring for me it was my least favorite arc but Flames of Hope was amazing I feel like for me I like the second arc the most
The Hive Queen and The Poison Jungle were the only 2 good ones out of the arc, I could stomach The Lost Continent simply because it was literally a new arc in a new setting. But there was really no excuse for books 4 and 5, ESPECIALLY 5.
Honestly are 3 is one of my favorites only 2 to arc 2, unless the 15 book can change that. Sundew is my favorite character (turtle as well) book 13 is one of my favorites. The climax with the Othermind taking over and the dragons fleeing. Anyway that’s just my opinion on it. And can’t wait for book 15!!!!!
Spoilers for most of book 14, if you haven't finished then don't read Snowfalls visions are too much for me. One second she will be snowfall, another she's in Blues head.
*SPOILERS* While I enjoy Arc 3... there are somethings I disliked about it 1. Really? Do humans *have* to play a huge role? Fine, yes, we can have Wren... but having one of the Othermind hosts be a human? Was that necessary? 2. The plant is the main villain... why 3. The ending of book 3 with Blue and Swordtail being mind controlled and Luna being book fifteen's protagonist. OF COURSE SHE WOULD TRY TO SAVE THEM! THEY'RE HER BROTHER AND BOYFRIEND! While doing both SilkWings wasn't the worst, I wished someone else had been mind controlled instead of both of them like Sundew because than the Othermind would be a bigger threat... or someone who Luna doesn't have the closest connections to, instead of it being "OH NO! MY BOYFRIEND AND BROTHER GOT MIND CONTROLLED, I HAVE TO SAVE THEM!" Like really? Did both of them had to be mind controlled? Why not Blue and Sundew for example? (I don't hate them, well Blue used to annoy me). That would mean the Othermind could spread faster.
The sad thing is that book 15 is plain boring. It’s a complete filler and barely any conflict happens. They basically spend the entire book sitting with a dead dragonet. It’s not interesting compared to other books and honestly, it was just… annoying. I hope the next book is not boring like book 15 and ark 3.
4:10 BRUUUUHHHHHHHHHHHHHH MAH GURL IS NOTHING LIKE THAT!!!!!!...... ok a little BUT I still LOVE HER SHE IS MY SECOND FAV CHARACTER I delt with the 1 and 2 books just to get to hers and I was not let down
I agree with pretty much everything you said in this video. Arc three is by far the weakest arc and though I did enjoy a lot of it I feel like it could have been way better. One perk of this ark is that I feel it has been way more philosophical and deep than the others, which I have to admit I kind of like. Despite that, I was dissatisfied with the majority of the books. However, I did not really like book 14 due to its lack of action compared to the terrifying cliffhanger that book 13 ended with I thought it was kind of a let down. Another reason I didn't like 14 was because it didn't set up a final battle between infected Pantala and United Pyrrhia. This would be the coolest ending ever but it doesn't even look like that is going to happen. This may be too person but it is my honest opinion on the books
Its not a bad arch its actually good but it is the weakest arch. Its not weak because its BAD its just not a great as the other two. It should have been a 2 arch storyline
My honest opinion about arc three is..well..I have very mixed feelings. I love The Poison Jungle is probably my favorite in arc 3. And I love Sundews and Willows relationship. Willow and Sundews relationship is the only canon LGBTQ+ relationship in Wof is far and their relationship is so well done and not rushed. And the Leafwings are my second favorite tribe after the Icewings. Though I do hate the first book.
... I got book 15 early... I am disappointed in the book. Spoiler warning if you continue! So uh... Luna gets possessed for half of the book. The scorching was boring, and Lizard is boring as watching grass grow. I had to force my self to keep reading becuz I hated it so much I never wanted it to read it again. I also think how she cured it was stupid also... Just cut a vine on the throne? Really how does that actually work? Is it the main brain? I had a theory Clearsight was gonna be the brain kinda... Ah well... But the prolouge was cute but yeah nah, dislike book 15. But that's what I think. Also I still like all the books in arc 3 but not this one.
I do still think it's the worst arc (other two arcs are more competent in general) but it really does have some standout books: book 13 and 14 are some of my favourites overall, and book 12, although having some major flaws, has some amazing moments in it too! Some notable parts of it include Wasp's visit to the hatchery, Cricket being thrown in jail, and Lady Scarab. I do disagree with you on the fact that basically all of the characters in arc three are carbon copies of eachother. It just happens in stories, especially when you have so many characters, and personally it's not a detriment to my enjoyment of any book series
Arc three is fine, but it’s my least favorite out of the three. I don’t really care much about the protagonists of the book, other then Cricket. Because I relate to her. Most of my Favorite characters where introduced in arc 1 or 2, I don’t mind the protagonists, like i like sundew just fine. But they just don’t interest me as much as the characters in the first 2 arcs. I like how it has more representation of lgbtqia+, Sunlow is actually my favorite ship in wof, but the story, I don’t care much for the story personally. So, the arc isn’t BAD per say, but its not GOOD either imo.
@@Dogloverlikesdoge i agree. i might like it better if scavengers weren't made part of the series, and i liked book 14, but i wish they didn't have wren in it. why does a scavenger need to save the dragons? why can't a dragon save them? i like wren, but i wish the scavengers where not as involved, you know. hopefully book 15 will be a good ending
Wow! This spoke my mind! Well, mostly. I stopped reading Wings of Fire after book 13. Although I still do listen in on what happens next. But with full honesty, what I think what really ruined Arch three was the many many missed opportunities and the rushed plot. That's all I have to say for today, except for one more thing. Feel free to delete my comments that have spoilers, there was only one comment I really wanted to keep and I already put a spoiler warning on that. Anyways, have a nice morning/day/evening/night! (Spoilers) IDEAS: - What if Clearsight didn't go to the lost continent in time? - What if DarkStalker didn't love Clearsight? - What if HiveWings were kinder to Silkwings? - What if Foeslayer never met Arctic?
What do you guys think about arc three? Let me know down below!
I'm so excited for The Flames of Hope, and it only comes out in four more days!! Make sure to follow the spoiler policy mentioned at the end of the video.
I completely agree that the some of the dragons from Pantala are complete copies. Reading book 11, 12 and 13 it just felt like reading Sunny, Starflight but more dramatic backstory and Tsunami and Peril combined, as you said. Don't get me wrong, I love Cricket and Sundew is alright... Maybe... (I don't know! I really don't know how I feel about Sundew, Willow and the rest of the LeafWings)
I personly think the pantalla tribes should be all bug theme like insted of the leafwings make then ....... I dont know mantistwing or webwing
I kinda wish that the chrysalis was more like the rebel group from Warriors: The Broken Code where they actually did stuff besides talking to them and… nothing else
@@1lonelypigeon500 Ikr! Instead of just talking, they should have *done* something. Even just subtle acts of defiance would be more realistic
you said you wanted to see more of the hive life right?
WELL.... l have an answer for you.
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I’m actually really enjoying Arc 3 the most due to it doing so many things right (assuming Book 15 pulls through), like Tui had fully learned from her mistakes of its predecessors. The brand new settings is a breath of fresh air, all the protagonists are fantastic and preserve their character development, none of the antagonists overstay their welcome, every new romance is genuine, the plot is executed phenomenally, the story keeps a very steady pace throughout without getting too slow or too fast, there’s a perfect balance of dark and goofy moments, and there isn’t an overpowered magic system that piles up plot holes.
Super unpopular opinion but Arc 3 is my favorite.
Ikr, the romance is arc three is incredible. It's so overlooked, but it has the best couples in the entire series. Tui went from stale couples like Starflight and Fatespeaker to ones that actually feel genuine, like Sundew and Willow and Cricket and Blue.
Arc 3 has to be my favourite arc aswell! I'm enjoying it more than I enjoyed arc 2.
@Emmanuel Brijandez Torres considering that he was being controlled entirely by the Othermind, I’d say killing him off when his secret was revealed is the perfect time to do it.
@Emmanuel Brijandez Torres Maybe Hawthorn will get a winglet
My main issue with it really is the glossed over destruction of Bloodworm hive and sudden involvement of scavengers as active protags
I absolutely love arc 3! I'm not surprised people hate it. I just adore the story line and I do like Pantala.
Omg ark 3 is my favorite. I just got soooo excited opening up the lost continent and seeing the new map and dragons. I don't understand why people hate it
@@Basically_A_Gremlin_Lol I kind of understand, but yeah. It's my favorite as well! Especially book two and book four, I love the setting :>
fr! I love all the arcs tbh
@@shelbeewebb4697 I can relate!
I don't hate arc 3 but its not my favorite
I love arc three but here are my thoughts on each book so far:
The Lost Continent: I love Blue but I wish his character was more developed by the end. The plot was too much with the combination of world building. Some of the events should have been in The Hive Queen to balance both books.
The Hive Queen: Very few surprises and I expected more even though the book is the shortest in the series. I liked getting to know Cricket and there were some plot moments that were nice but that didn’t happen until the second half.
The Poison Jungle: I loved this book. One of my favorites. I think the problem was more with the characters and their interactions rather than the plot. Hawthorn was a wasted opportunity.
The Dangerous Gift: I enjoyed getting to know Snowfall and the truth about Jerboa but this book is basically filler. Didn’t exactly like how scavengers are now a bigger part of the plot.
Extra: Yeah the prologues and epilogues are not very good and should have been placed elsewhere in the story.
Overall I like this arc but it was kind of shoved in compared the the rest of the series. However I like getting to about new tribes and continent.
I can kind of agree with you on most of that!
I agree with the scavenger part and most of the rest as well. When I realized scavengers were a big part of the plot-line made me pretty disappointed since WoF is a dragon book, not a dragon rider book. Hopefully scavenger plots subside in the future :’)
Arc 3 is my favorite because of the new locations and characters. I loved learning about these new kinds of dragons and their ways of life. There’s so much world building in books 11-13 and they’re definitely my comfort books of the series.
And then there’s book 14, which is the perfect crossover between books 1-10 and 11-13. Seriously, this book is as much a sequel to book 10 as it is to book 13. Seeing all these characters from different books finally interacting with each other was amazing.
Pantala seems like such a cool world, we just haven't seen too much of it. (Maybe that's just me)
@@Dogloverlikesdoge Yeah I agree.
Personally I think arc 3 is really cool! I think Blue's personality is nice and sweet and I love the romance between him and Cricket. I know hawthorn could have been better in the books tho. Everyone has different opinions tho : )
Blue and Cricket is so cute!
It's difficult to say for me. I found Arc 3 quite interesting because of the whole new environment. Not to mention Pantala's Victorian-style development compared to the medieval settings of Pyrrhia. In my opinion, this is the reason Arc 3 is less exciting for most of us readers. We were used to the old-fashioned setting of Pyrrhia, where everyone lived in kingdoms. On Pantala, however, dragons have come a long way and arguably live in skyscrapers. Modern outtakes of fantasy worlds tend to feel a bit awkward to some, if not most, people including myself. Especially here where Pantala and Pyrrhia are in two completely different stages of development of civilisation
The Lost Continent was disappointing.
The Hive Queen was entertaining.
The Poison Jungle was thrilling.
The Dangerous Gift was bad.
The Flames of Hope was worse.
It's unbelievable that the mid point had more hype than the actual end
I actually really like arc 3, although I would change a few things, its really entertaining. Now this is going to be a really unpopular opinion, I like arc 3 more than arc 1. I just don't really like the characters. In arc 3, yes, Blue is a copy of Sunny, and I don't like him that much, but I love Cricket, and book 14 is really fun to read. We haven't gotten anything like Queen Wasp before in Wings Of Fire. But, my opinion is still wavering because I haven't read book 15.
I agree!
Honestly, given how EXTREMELY disappointed I was with how Arc 2 ended (mainly in regards to Darkstalker's fate, contradicting messages and themes, and Moonbli being a thing), I thought Arc 3 was a breath of fresh air and made up for that massive blunder (so far at least, I have yet to read The Dangerous Gift and The Flames of Hope).
I haven't read any Wings of Fire books in ages, but I remember thinking that The Lost Continent was one of the weaker entries in the series, and really enjoyed The Hive Queen and loved The Poison Jungle. Will Tui be able to stick the landing for the ending this time unlike Arc 2? I'm hoping so, but I'm being cautious at the same time.
I really like arc 3 people complained about the overuse of magic but arc 3 never used magic at all
Tui went from using magic too much in arc two to completely removing it in arc three. It felt... kind of fast
Gonna be honest I personally love the poison jungle and the lost continent
You didn't like Winter before The Dangerous Gift? I really liked Winter, especially when he interacts with Qibli
I liked him towards the end of his arc, and he ultimately improved (development wise) by The Dangerous Gift.
I don't think arc 3 is bad, rather it's interesting and entertaining, and I find the villain of the arc incredible and fascinating (a plant that controls other creatures) and is very different from what we've seen before in the series, and has themes such as dystopian society (with references to 1984), conformism, how the winners alter history, jungles with giant carnivorous plants (like ice age 3), put yourself in someone else's place and see their lives, Forbidden but genuine loves and etc.
It is personally, one of my favorite arcs
I can see that!
I love arc 3! It’s my favourite arc, and it has my favourite book! (13) but I agree about blue, he annoys me a lot. I hope we get an arc 4. I also love the ships in it and snowfall’s visions! I wish we knew more about opal (I think that was her name) I keep re reading the sunlo scene because it is the reason book 13 is my favourite
I hope we get an arc four as well :D
I really like ark 3 but I'm nervous that book 15 is gonna be Winter turning 2.0 because they need to ALLL the way to Pantala and back, also I agree that Blue is sunny 2.0 but he's still a bit cool
I'll probably make a video talking about my opinion :D
I think when th book starts it going to start on Pantala first
Everyone: “the flames of hope comes out in 4 days!”
Me who’s already read it because for some reason Australia had it and the dangerous gift a week before their release dates:
*I am four parallel universes ahead of you.*
You guys are so lucky aaaa
did you like it? was it a good ending?
Was there a main character death???
@@mothwingthemedicinecat i liked it a lot :D
There were some things revealed that i thought wouldnt come, and some things not revealed that i thought would come
All im gonna say the the luna x cricket shippers will rise
@@marijougonzalez8437 no
When you said Sundew is a mix of Tsunami and Peril I thought for a second. That’s probably why the three of them are my favorite dragons in the books
I agree Arc 3 has been very underwhelming. I lowkey agree that the Poison jungle story was filler book but I think we got some very insightful revelations and plot progressions in it like knowing where the leafwings have been living, understanding what makes the Poison jungle so dangerous, Leafspeak, Io is alive, Origins of the breath of evil, a small adventure finding the breath of evil, Hope for an antidote then major uno reverse card plottwist and then a pretty awesome cliffhanger!(I started reading WOF in 2020 and I can't imagine having to read this in 2019 and surive till 2021 to complete the story). But TBF I read the books & then listened to the audio book after so I get a more rounded view of the story and writing wise it was the most coherent and complete book of arc 3 for me but will agree Sundew is a carbon copy of Tsunami. Hive Queen felt like the Lost continent with blue replaced for Cricket and The Dangerous Gift, Snowfall is my absolute favourite Protag of Arc 3 but it felt like a montage of other Dragons perspectives most of the time especially Jerboas chapters at the end it definatly left me with wanting more snowfall.
The Lost Continent was super wierd, I didn't like blue and took me a while to adjust my mind when I was reading it, I just couldn't imagine a hive city properly without thinking of roads with cars on them and I have so many questions like did the hive wings technology? I remember they had some kind of arm band that activates remotely to inject venom like WHAT???
feels also like Tui tried to create an entire world too rushed and manufactured too many random conflicts to make us care about these random side characters like Io, Bryony, Greyling & hemlock.
I agree with you with most of that ngl
@@Dogloverlikesdoge Not sure if you have the same thoughts but I have a small theory that a huge scene was Cut from The Dangerous gift and wanted your thoughts on it. It was the selection of the secret stealth team and the huge ceremony around pages 252-253. I think there was more drama there but I think Tui didn't anticipate that Jerboas backstory was going to be so long so she had to pick and choose which scene to cut. I could be crazy but yeah feel free to agree or disagree haha! I don't have many WOF friends to discuss these topics with=(...
I don't remember the chapter of the Dangerous gift but Spoilers:
I like arc three but I'm a bit worried that the series is going to try to redeem Wasp. In the Dangerous gift when Snowfall is in Blue's head Wasp for some reason talks about how why she is the way she is and how when was child she was afraid that the Silkwings and Leafwings we're going to hurt the Hivewings so she took them over and said about them being evil and she took them over and was being the most evil of all
I'll be really disappointed if the dragonets are just like "bUt wE caN't kIlL hEr"
Wasp is a murderer who mind controlled THOUSANDS of dragons. Probably even millions.
I know it's a kids series and a lot of the other dragonets will feel all mushy and heroic about giving her a second chance or at least keeping her alive, but she needs to die for what she's done.
@@Dogloverlikesdoge I 100% agree
@@Dogloverlikesdogelol kinda late to the party but what they did was kinda worse. Shoving her into a prison she made for her enslaved subjects, and, as she is the otherminds only host now, the plant will drive her completely insane. Aegean did a drawing featuring this concept and you should totally check it out. I love ur content!
**SPOLIER WARNING FOR BOOKS 11-14**
I actually have almost the complete opposite opinion! I like the first three books but could hardly start book 14 (though it did get better as the book went on (tbh it felt like book 14 WAS the filler book compared to the others lol))
I like Blue's character because, he is Brainwashed (kinda-sorta), his whole life he has been oppressed by the HiveWings, forced to live as a lower class citizen, and over the book he has to unlearn his entire world view as he goes on this unexpected adventure cross-continent while he still doesn't have his wings (which is a fascinating concept btw, dragons not getting their wings until they're older?? I would LOVE a winglet from the pov of a young SilkWing and their life during the time they don't have their wings, Tui gave us some details on this but still!) And the entire thing with his dad and the other flamesilks? Sheeeeessshh, do NOT want to be Blue!
I like Cricket do to her personality, a courios young dragon who wants to to learn everything that she can (honestly I feel like Cricket is more like Sunny then Blue is but thats just me) and also, do you not have any older siblings?! Because if *I* found out that my sibling was not my sibling and was my MOM and my fake-mom had been abusing me my whole life, I'd be pretty upset!! Like WHAT? It's world shattering!
Sundew is my seconed faviorte, only behind My Queen of Fire Peril. Sundew is just so relatable to me, she just wants to live her life and love Willow but her parents keep soufacting her, and Hawthorn is completely slept on imo, he was banished from his tribe and left to rot, the only thing that kept him company is an evil voice inside his head that he can't get rid of. That's HORRIFYING! Having your mind being slowly striped away as you can't talk to anyone besides the voice inside your head. Horrifying.
Book 14 was just sortta boring to me. Snowfall felt pretty boring and flat, Lynx is my baby and I'll fight anyone on that. The most interesting part was the dream sequances and the twist that the ring was alive. And Winter finding out about Wren and Sky was hallriours!
But these are just my opinions on the books and I just wanter to share them
I do like how relatable Sundew can be for people :D
She arc addresses actual problems in the real world
Title answer:
No
Arc three has actually been my favorite and you can really tell how the writing has changed and I don’t I think it was rushed at all and I love Blues pov though Crickets book was definitely my favorite and I don’t really care much about plot twists and stuff like that I mostly just like seeing a character put in a place and watching how they react and I don’t think I was bored once while reading the arc three books and I disagree with the fact that you think a lot of characters are basically copies of other characters as for me they don’t feel like that at all
Personally, I love arc three! I know it's not all that put together, but it's as put together as the third arc of a dragon book can be. I fell in love with the characters almost immediately. They just stole my heart, while the 1st and 2nd arc took me a bit longer. ( with a few exceptions ) probably my most unpopular opinion is my favorite arc is the third!
The characters are pretty cool! :D
... I don't care, it's my favorite arc
It relieves ALL of the drama from the Distant Kingdoms, and I actually was yelling: "WHAT?!! WHOA!!" at Katydid being Cricket's mother, and I was not being sarcastic or faking it at all! And... people may scream at me but... I think arc 1 and 2 are... Idk... Kinda boring?
*_Now I will be expecting some really pssed off replies now UvU_*
It's my opinion though
It isn't bad. It's just unnecessary. Honestly, you could take Pantala out of WoF and literally nothing changes except a bit of tweaking at the end of Darkstalker and Darkness of Dragons.
There’s nothing wrong with that
I SO agree with you!! The dangerous gift is literally one of my favorite books in the series. Although it was mainly about Snowfall thinking, I like her character development. But, I do have to disagree with you on Sundew, she is probably my favorite character on Pantala, she is very fierce and will protect her own without hesitation, and she can be quite kind at times. It's totally fine if u disagree, I just wanted to explain my thoughts and feelings. Thank you so much for this video! It was great! 👍👏
Snowfall is literally one of the best characters in Wings of Fire, and the fact that she progressed so much with her character development in one book is incredible.
@@Dogloverlikesdoge Ikr! I love her character!
Arc three is the biggest roller coaster in terms of quality for me, book one lost me immediately, but after some pressure I finished it and read book two, which was substantially better. Book three was AMAZING with an incredible ending that left me on the edge of my seat, while book four probably should've taken half the time it did and the rest could be devoted to developing the protagonists with their interactions on this strange new place. No spoilers (I got it early) but I loved book 5. Once it comes out, I can't wait to see everyone else's thoughts.
Personally I really liked blue as a protagonist, I liked his character development in that book, and I didn't really think he was a copy of Sunny, Sunny it pretty different. After his book tho he was pretty stale tbh
I really like how scavengers are now not going to get eaten (as much). Tui is shaking things up, and it's great! I'm glad it happened because it makes me think this won't be a warriors situation.
I love arc 3, I love it. I only dislike The lost continent because of the mistakes.. their quite clear to notice. Where do the webs go on the cover? Why is there TWO different covers?!!
Otherwise, love the webs. But they need to stress more the interior of the webs, and hives. Like- HOW AM I SUPPOSED TO IMAGINE THEM!
I hope, but also don't, like in a not wanting but I want to be sad about it sorta way. Want tsunami to die in 15.
This is why I have a personal AU about the events on Pantala, excluding most of the canon characters. I’ll explain one part; The Tree Wars:
(Now know I haven’t read arc 3, so this will probably be very different).
Monarch, Wasp, and Sequoia have been made queen of their respective tribes. Monarch is a care-free dragon, but cares deeply about her SilkWings. Sequoia is a strict and judgmental monarch who tries to rule with wisdom and justice. And Wasp is a dragon who seems emotionless at first, but deep down *does* care about her tribe.
HiveWings and LeafWings in this Pantala have a long history of hatred for each other. Wasp and Sequoia are no different. Sequoia wants the LeafWings to control the other tribes. After all, they are the only ones who can keep the Breath of Evil at bay. Wasp wants to control the other tribes as well, but because she thinks her hive system is the best way to live.
The three queens meet together to discuss and hopefully smooth out the discourse, but instead Wasp and Sequoia grow more bitter with each meeting. Finally, Sequoia and Hawthorn plan in secret to use the Breath of Evil as a threat to make Wasp and Monarch obey their commands. But Wasp’s spies hear about this, and report this plan to her. She decides to launch a counter attack, and starts planning. But one day, as she was walking along a well-trodden path, a little plant on the walkway looked eerily familiar. It was the Breath of Evil. Wouldn’t it be poetic if Wasp used the very thing supposed to destroy her to destroy her attackers?
And thus, the Tree Wars began. The power this plant gave her drove Wasp insane, and she commanded the flamesilks to destroy the forests (the SilkWings were under Wasp’s rule by now). The LeafWings fought back though, and Sequoia killed Wasp herself… or so she thought. You see, this plant wasn’t any other plant. It was similar to the cordyceps fungus, but could control much larger things than just insects. It was what made Wasp mentally unstable enough to do things she would never do by herself (ex. Destroy the very forest all the dragon tribes depended on). But now, with no brain to “control” the Breath, it could use Wasp’s body and any other dragon it could get its spores on as puppets to do its own bidding. That being to continue populating until nothing was left.
(Yes, I was inspired by ArtisticAngel Lucas. It’s a zombie apocalypse.)
Everyone of these videos are just her hating on Wings of Fire. Appreciate what WOF made possible. For me, wings of fire was an awesome series and I found no flaws, but these videos just say how horrible it is no matter how many times this person says that she respects wings of fire. 😢
i actually liked arc 3, but well, i gotta admit that the lost continent is not as interesting as it could be, but i do like the hive queen, i never thought of the poison jungle as a filler, i liked it, i don't really like the dangerous gift (mostly because i don't like icewings, except lynx, she is the only icewing that i like)
and spoiler (i don't know if i still need to mark it, but i'll do it anyways)
it's not a lot of a spoiler, but when i was reading the flames of hope, i had a feeling of reading a history book, which was really boring, when i bought this book i was really excited about it, but when the plot went to the void, i really felt more exhausted of this book after every chapter, i know there's people who liked and i can tell why, it was just not my type of the story
Nobody can change my mind, Arc 3 is on top. I enjoyed the DoD and the Jade Winglet, but I love the characters and story of Arc 3. (Edit the only thing I don't like about Arc 3 is truly Sundew, she just is kinda boring)
I kinda see where you are getting at with sundew because her entire personality is “kill anyone that breathes towards me” and “gay”
YEESSSS
It's not bad at all. I think arc three might be my favorite, especially because of the characters and the setting.
Who else agrees that arc 3 could have been the scariest arc in wings of fire?
I love arc three! I don't understand how ppl hate it. I just re read it and book 14 is my favorite book in the series, and the plot is super cool.
Mine to! I love book two and four!
@@hollyforman9637 I am not a big fan of the first arc, but book four was really good, I feel kinda bad that they thought Starflight just ran away on them (I think that's how it went, I'm not sure its been a year since I've touched that book)
I just got spooked by the 15th book, but other than that, I love the 3rd arc
I thought arc three was amazing. Sundews book is awesome, Tui fully introduced her true feelings that has not happened before. But I understand why you feel other ways, but sundew is not, is NOT, a copy of peril and tsunami. I think the books fit perfectly into the arc.
imo the third arc is straight fire and almost as good as the best for me which is the second arc. book 13-14 are my favorite in the series and 15 is also really good.
Honestly I didn’t like the dangerous gift because of Snowfall’s personality. In Winter turning she seemed a lot darker, colder, and.... smoother I guess? She acted a lot like how cobra lily acts in my opinion, and I feel like snowfall’s franticness and aggressiveness in the dangerous gift wasn’t very exciting, where as if she had a personality like cobra Lily’s I think her perspective could have been more unique.
Also I think animus magic is still gonna be here.
Because the spell was to take all animus magic from any dragon who is alive today.
TODAY
So that’s why in my au, I have at least 2 characters with animus. A mother and her daughter. Luckilly not all of her sibs.
But I feel like that dragons will have the inactivated power over animus and they can still pass over the gene!
I know a lot of people said that, but I just wanna say this, because why not!
And also to the animus lovers who lost hope for a second.
I do love arc 3 but there was downsides too.....In The Lost Continent, when they were in the underground area was kinda a waste of time, we could of used that time to have more time with luna and admiral. Or with the fight against the libraraian. The hive queen was my fav book But those chapters at the beginning was kinda a waste we were just waiting for blue it should've started when blue was out of metamorphosis so we could get more time in jewel hive. Sundew's book was good too But tbh I dont see any downsides.... But the poison jungle is not my fav even know it has no downsides ( the only downside was probs nettle) The dangerous gift WAS AMAZING too.
I understand people might disagree, which is fine but honestly in my opinion arch 3 is my favirote arch, arch 1 was good, arch 2 was good aside from the fact that dark stalker was in it (I HATE DARKSTALKER) but I am really enjoying arch 3!
Ok don’t @ me but am I the only one who thought bumblebee was a boy like I don’t know why but I did and I looked it up after I watched this video and bumblebee is a girl I just thought bumblebee was a boy 😭
I don’t really like arc three. The first two were better. In my opinion, arc two is the best. Arc three, I mean I don’t hate it but I definantly DONT love it. The fact that Phyria had been the main seven tribes, and now there was an enormous change with a whole new continent. Also even though it’s pretty cool I still don’t really like arc three.
I love arc 3. idk why people hate it.
Arc 3 is my favorite arc easily. I just reread the whole series and I still just love it the most. I love the characters and plots and TDG is my #1 favorite book and TLC is my #2 favorite book
IKR Lady scarab and Lady jewel are just really funny I want more of it right now!
I need more of them aaaa
Main reason why arch 3 is bad because it destroys Animojis magic is basically the whole arch two legends and a bit of arch 1
Book 3 and book 4 and especially book 5 are the most interesting of arch 3. But that’s bad because book 2 and 1 are the beginning books and introduce the setting and situations. They made arch 3 entirely worse. I loved book 3 a lot it was really interesting and I couldn’t put it down; I liked sunlow and thought the two leaf wing villages were cool. As well as book 14. It wasn’t as good, and the middle part of it was kinda filler, but the beginning and end were awsome. I like snowfall. SPOILeRS. Book 15… book 15 omg where to start. Book 15 is probably one of my most fav wof books. I love Luna x swordtail, and I absolutely ADORE the scene where sword and Luna are kids and rebel against the mean hivewing yard aid. I love freedom so much and I feel so bad for her. Im glad Luna renamed her instead of her dieting having cottonmouths chosen name. I wish we got to see more of the epilogue because of how good it was.
Did you know you could actually get wings of fire book 15 right now?
My friend has it and it is so awesome!
You can only get it in other countries rn and *some* stores that got theirs early.
I preordered mine so I'll get it asap :D
@@Dogloverlikesdoge Whaa???!!!
I only got mine early because my preorder came to the store early so I got to go pick it up and I’m already reading it for the second time lol
I LOVE arc three it’s so interesting and the twists keep coming, I honestly think this is some of Tuis most interesting arc
Spoiler for book 15 (flames of hope) so if you have not read it yet do not look at the rest of the comment
I used to think the third arc was meh but in my opinion i think book 15 was a perfect ending for arc 3. I also think it redeems the arc and i think flames of hope is one of the best if not the best book in the series because it wraps up loose ends that we never got to learn about and we finally got to learn about the scorching, what happened to humans, and what the othermind is
Queen Hazel is a bebe, love her as a queen and I hope sequioa decides to retire if she makes it out of this madness alive, although I do wish sequioa was punished for her involvement in the tree wars and the othermind plot.
Ikr, Hazel is so underrated!
Arc 3 was a bit too disappointing and boring for me it was my least favorite arc but Flames of Hope was amazing I feel like for me I like the second arc the most
The Hive Queen and The Poison Jungle were the only 2 good ones out of the arc, I could stomach The Lost Continent simply because it was literally a new arc in a new setting. But there was really no excuse for books 4 and 5, ESPECIALLY 5.
The Dangerous Gift was probably the only one I actually enjoyed. The rest just felt like filler
Hi! I just want to say I love your video! Alao, the dangerous gift receives a lot of hate, and I'm happy to also find someone to enjoy it!
Unpopular opinion: I like Blue.
I just want to know if anyone else agrees?
I do! He's not a good protagonist imo
When is the Netflix series coming?
i dont like the way they made the silkwings servants to the hivewings..
Honestly are 3 is one of my favorites only 2 to arc 2, unless the 15 book can change that. Sundew is my favorite character (turtle as well) book 13 is one of my favorites. The climax with the Othermind taking over and the dragons fleeing. Anyway that’s just my opinion on it. And can’t wait for book 15!!!!!
Arc three isn't bad but it's not my favourite of the arcs. I personally prefer arc one and two over it, I did quite like The Dangerous gift though.
Spoilers for most of book 14, if you haven't finished then don't read
Snowfalls visions are too much for me. One second she will be snowfall, another she's in Blues head.
Small spoiler :
Bumblebee isn't in it much!!!
*SPOILERS*
While I enjoy Arc 3... there are somethings I disliked about it
1. Really? Do humans *have* to play a huge role? Fine, yes, we can have Wren... but having one of the Othermind hosts be a human? Was that necessary?
2. The plant is the main villain... why
3. The ending of book 3 with Blue and Swordtail being mind controlled and Luna being book fifteen's protagonist. OF COURSE SHE WOULD TRY TO SAVE THEM! THEY'RE HER BROTHER AND BOYFRIEND!
While doing both SilkWings wasn't the worst, I wished someone else had been mind controlled instead of both of them like Sundew because than the Othermind would be a bigger threat... or someone who Luna doesn't have the closest connections to, instead of it being "OH NO! MY BOYFRIEND AND BROTHER GOT MIND CONTROLLED, I HAVE TO SAVE THEM!"
Like really? Did both of them had to be mind controlled? Why not Blue and Sundew for example? (I don't hate them, well Blue used to annoy me). That would mean the Othermind could spread faster.
The sad thing is that book 15 is plain boring. It’s a complete filler and barely any conflict happens. They basically spend the entire book sitting with a dead dragonet. It’s not interesting compared to other books and honestly, it was just… annoying. I hope the next book is not boring like book 15 and ark 3.
4:10 BRUUUUHHHHHHHHHHHHHH MAH GURL IS NOTHING LIKE THAT!!!!!!......
ok a little BUT I still LOVE HER SHE IS MY SECOND FAV CHARACTER
I delt with the 1 and 2 books just to get to hers and I was not let down
I agree with pretty much everything you said in this video. Arc three is by far the weakest arc and though I did enjoy a lot of it I feel like it could have been way better. One perk of this ark is that I feel it has been way more philosophical and deep than the others, which I have to admit I kind of like. Despite that, I was dissatisfied with the majority of the books. However, I did not really like book 14 due to its lack of action compared to the terrifying cliffhanger that book 13 ended with I thought it was kind of a let down. Another reason I didn't like 14 was because it didn't set up a final battle between infected Pantala and United Pyrrhia. This would be the coolest ending ever but it doesn't even look like that is going to happen. This may be too person but it is my honest opinion on the books
The Dangerous Gift is my favorite book in The Lost Continent Arc
Sameeeee
Its not a bad arch its actually good but it is the weakest arch. Its not weak because its BAD its just not a great as the other two. It should have been a 2 arch storyline
Arc 3 is my favorite how can people hate it. I mean... It does have a few quirks but overall I think it was good.
for me personally i liked arc 3 the best especially book 13 and 15 i dont get why people dont like it
My honest opinion about arc three is..well..I have very mixed feelings. I love The Poison Jungle is probably my favorite in arc 3. And I love Sundews and Willows relationship. Willow and Sundews relationship is the only canon LGBTQ+ relationship in Wof is far and their relationship is so well done and not rushed. And the Leafwings are my second favorite tribe after the Icewings. Though I do hate the first book.
Well, we have seen more of that in WoF. (Umber had a crush on Qibli, Pineapple is Jambu's boyfriend, and we got to see Blue and Luna's mothers.)
@@Dogloverlikesdoge Wait, Pineapple and Jambu are together?? Nice!
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I got book 15 early...
I am disappointed in the book.
Spoiler warning if you continue!
So uh... Luna gets possessed for half of the book. The scorching was boring, and Lizard is boring as watching grass grow. I had to force my self to keep reading becuz I hated it so much I never wanted it to read it again. I also think how she cured it was stupid also... Just cut a vine on the throne? Really how does that actually work? Is it the main brain? I had a theory Clearsight was gonna be the brain kinda... Ah well...
But the prolouge was cute but yeah nah, dislike book 15.
But that's what I think.
Also I still like all the books in arc 3 but not this one.
Ty for the spoiler warning! I'll read this later if I remember :D
I honestly really liked book 15! I can see why people don’t like it but I thought it was really good.
this is so true…
I do still think it's the worst arc (other two arcs are more competent in general) but it really does have some standout books: book 13 and 14 are some of my favourites overall, and book 12, although having some major flaws, has some amazing moments in it too! Some notable parts of it include Wasp's visit to the hatchery, Cricket being thrown in jail, and Lady Scarab. I do disagree with you on the fact that basically all of the characters in arc three are carbon copies of eachother. It just happens in stories, especially when you have so many characters, and personally it's not a detriment to my enjoyment of any book series
Yeah! Even though the arc is a bit dull as a whole, it has some good moments.
I love arc three
Arc three is fine, but it’s my least favorite out of the three. I don’t really care much about the protagonists of the book, other then Cricket. Because I relate to her. Most of my Favorite characters where introduced in arc 1 or 2, I don’t mind the protagonists, like i like sundew just fine. But they just don’t interest me as much as the characters in the first 2 arcs.
I like how it has more representation of lgbtqia+, Sunlow is actually my favorite ship in wof, but the story, I don’t care much for the story personally. So, the arc isn’t BAD per say, but its not GOOD either imo.
Yeah, it's my least favorite. It's not awful, it's just not the best that we've seen so far in the series.
@@Dogloverlikesdoge i agree. i might like it better if scavengers weren't made part of the series, and i liked book 14, but i wish they didn't have wren in it. why does a scavenger need to save the dragons? why can't a dragon save them? i like wren, but i wish the scavengers where not as involved, you know. hopefully book 15 will be a good ending
Wow! This spoke my mind! Well, mostly. I stopped reading Wings of Fire after book 13. Although I still do listen in on what happens next. But with full honesty, what I think what really ruined Arch three was the many many missed opportunities and the rushed plot.
That's all I have to say for today, except for one more thing. Feel free to delete my comments that have spoilers, there was only one comment I really wanted to keep and I already put a spoiler warning on that. Anyways, have a nice morning/day/evening/night!
(Spoilers)
IDEAS:
- What if Clearsight didn't go to the lost continent in time?
- What if DarkStalker didn't love Clearsight?
- What if HiveWings were kinder to Silkwings?
- What if Foeslayer never met Arctic?
Ooh, those are some great ideas! If Foeslayer never met Arctic, a lot of the series wouldn't happen.
I LOVE ARC THREE
Arc 3 is amazing I’m surprised by the title of this video😮😢
I just woke up! Somehow I’m here ONLY after one hour
YES LOVE ARC 3 OK
I love all the arcs I think they are interesting
Yeah, they're all great in their own ways!
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Hi!
arc 3 is definetly the weakesst and i was really disappointed especially with flames of hope.
Wait, this isn't an April Fools joke?
Nah, I typically don't do anything for April Fools.
Arc 3 is great
Hey uhm I already commented but I wanted to say that my brother is getting married today. :D
That's awesome!
Personally I love arc 3.
That's valid!
But yes arc 3 is cool!!
wait...
i was the 2nd viewer but like the 5th to comment lol
I agree with you so much! Arc 3 was so boring I can’t even remember most of the characters or the plot-☠️
True Sundew is copy of tsunami Just screams a lot
Agreed
Only Tsunami did it better. Unpopular opinion but that's why she's my favorite character. ☺
Yes, yea it is