Gill: From Father To Forgotten (Wings Of Fire Analysis)

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  • @Dogloverlikesdoge
    @Dogloverlikesdoge  2 ปีที่แล้ว +23

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    • @Itzaxolotl101
      @Itzaxolotl101 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      When the WOF movie was cancelled, I told the news to my friends, like LITTERALLY, One of my friends screamed for like hours😐

    • @YouActualFatty
      @YouActualFatty 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      REEEEE 😆

  • @3rdEyeLenny
    @3rdEyeLenny 2 ปีที่แล้ว +65

    Gill is one of the characters that, it's sad they died too early to learn about them, but at the same time it was important for the next book, and I think it's a somewhat important plot point for Tsunami. I'm glad we got a flashback with him in Book 9 to flesh him out a bit more, and he's one of the characters that you don't think about often, but then when you do, you want to see a Winglet of them

    • @Dogloverlikesdoge
      @Dogloverlikesdoge  2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Yeah, I definitely understand why Tui killed him off. However, I'd love to see more of his past. A Winglet about how Coral and Gill met and fell in love would be awesome! It could even talk about Gill's time in the arena and his descent into madness.

    • @aluneriinitot5371
      @aluneriinitot5371 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Dogloverlikesdoge Basically a Winglet with sad ending where by the end Gill give in into insanity due the thirst? I'll be honest it will probably scare someone and have same emotional impact as book of Darkstalker by the end, heh.

    • @SuperDestroyerFox
      @SuperDestroyerFox 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@aluneriinitot5371nothing can top Darkstalker in horror but the depression might be able to be topped.

  • @TrickyTalon23
    @TrickyTalon23 2 ปีที่แล้ว +54

    Gill spent his entire rule trying to do what was best for everyone, but he never got the results he had hoped for.
    He did everything he could to protect his unhatched daughters from the unknown monster that was murdering them. He assigned trusted guards 24/7 outside, checked the eggs frequently, and stayed alert. But he would always end up finding the female eggs destroyed just as the dragonet inside was about to hatch.
    During the SandWing War, he worked out a plan to potentially end the fatal struggle without more bloodshed. But he was robbed of that dream by an unknown force of dragons who had been playing the pieces and no one bothered to help him salvage it. His wish was shattered right before his eyes as he tried desperately to keep it together. But it was out of his control and his allies chose vengeance over forgiveness.
    When he was captured by Queen Scarlet, he refused to fight anyone in her arena battles, knowing full well he was risking his own life in doing so. And for a while, it actually worked. His opponents backed down with him and he managed to keep himself alive without staining his own talons with another dragon’s blood.
    But he was living in a world that simply didn’t allow mercy. At least not for him. At least not then. He was starved and dehydrated for trying so hard to be merciful, and ultimately deprived of all sanity. Maybe his morals and kind nature were drowned out by the desperate will to survive and the unimaginable pain he endured. Or maybe he simply had enough of trying to be a hero in a world full of greed, and he just finally reached his breaking point.
    And so he died doing what he had always stood against: inflicting pain on others without remorse.
    Gill did everything right. He always chose peace, he cared for those around him, and he never gave up. But despite his best efforts, it was never enough. He couldn’t save a single one of his daughters, he couldn’t end the war peacefully, and he couldn’t escape the SkyWing queen’s arena. He tried over and over to do the right thing no matter how many times he failed before, but he just couldn’t succeed with using peace.
    Pyrrhia simply just didn’t want to be saved yet. All of his heroics… had been for nothing.

    • @JadeMountainArchive
      @JadeMountainArchive 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      This brought my opinion of Gill from a solid A- up to the tippy top of A+.

    • @TrickyTalon23
      @TrickyTalon23 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@JadeMountainArchive Happy to hear it :D

    • @counterattack248
      @counterattack248 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Honestly in that regard, that makes him and tsunami more alike than previously thought.

    • @TrickyTalon23
      @TrickyTalon23 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@counterattack248 not really. Tsunami didn’t try nearly as hard as he did to fight for what’s right.

    • @pepperwaffles4228
      @pepperwaffles4228 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you so much for explaining it like this! I’ve never particularly liked him, but thinking about it now, he is now one of my favorite characters

  • @Strawberry-wl7xx
    @Strawberry-wl7xx 2 ปีที่แล้ว +56

    I don’t think wings of fire is a kids series literally drinking your own blood to survive,killing someone as a child , snapping your fathers neck,falling into lava,chocking out your blood, wow a kids series indeed

    • @certifiedhomelanderstan
      @certifiedhomelanderstan 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      Let’s not forget the scene where Arctic disemboweled himself. The pinnacle of children’s entertainment.

    • @Dogloverlikesdoge
      @Dogloverlikesdoge  2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@certifiedhomelanderstan Ah, yes. Children will love it!

    • @jammingpython8986
      @jammingpython8986 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Wait which character drank their blood to survive? I kinda forgot.

    • @Dogloverlikesdoge
      @Dogloverlikesdoge  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@jammingpython8986 Gill

    • @sapphirewingsxx2451
      @sapphirewingsxx2451 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Gotta teach em young

  • @serenitythesiren5031
    @serenitythesiren5031 2 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    So, the idea of Scarlet knowing Gill and Tsunami were related isn't possible. Gill wasn't born into the royal SeaWing family, he married into it. So he doesn't have the patterns on his wings. Only Tsunami and her other family members do.

    • @Dogloverlikesdoge
      @Dogloverlikesdoge  2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Well, regardless of my error, she knew she had imprisoned the SeaWing king. I'd bet that Scarlet knows about the SeaWing royal pattern, since she would probably have studied Coral and her family as much as possible. Plus, it's not too hard to tell that her wing pattern is entirely different.

    • @T0AST2012
      @T0AST2012 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Dogloverlikesdoge that was one of the theories I thought of and shared with my mom

  • @kyleighcampbell4311
    @kyleighcampbell4311 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Gill may have had his flaws as for how his anger affected Turtle, but in his defense he did think he had failed to protect his sisters and his friend, as soon as he found out it wasn’t his fault he instantly felt guilty and regretful and was going to tell him the truth and that he was sorry. So I’d say he was a great king, husband, and father.
    R.I.P his sanity and his life, he will be missed

  • @JadeMountainArchive
    @JadeMountainArchive 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Tui didn't know Gill was Tsunami's father?! That's crazy! And really good on her part to make that connection in setting up Tsunami's character arc. I loved your analysis of grief and its impacts too - great video!

    • @Dogloverlikesdoge
      @Dogloverlikesdoge  2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Thank you! And yeah, Tui revealed that she didn't even know Gill was Tsunami's father. It was an element she added into The Lost Heir, and fit in surprisingly well. It was just as much of a surprise to her as it was to us!

  • @coolish2504
    @coolish2504 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Gill is a good character and I wished he didn’t die and ended up living to actually have time with his family. Although he is a good character I did not like when he yelled at Turtle when he didn’t really let turtle explain . When he went with Tempest to meet with Blister he actually felt bad for tempest when she died and mourned for her. I feel like Tempest should have survived though because she seemed like she would change a lot in the series :(. All in all Gill is a better character than most or some dragons in the series so he can get mad but actually notice what he did wrong at the end (Ex. With Turtle) Maybe if Gill survived in the Arena or if he killed Tsunami instead would he see his family again, it makes me feel sad for him :(. Awesome vid btw! I love every how you explain their backstories and add more details to hook the watcher in ! Have a good day/night!

  • @ariannasanchez2776
    @ariannasanchez2776 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Poor Gill, and poor Tsunami, fate was cruel to them.

  • @Frostbite961
    @Frostbite961 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Gill is most definitely an interesting Wings of Fire. And like many other characters are forgotten. And Poor Turtle I am sure Gill didn't mean it he was just mad about it, but it's no excuse. And we can add him to the "need a Winglet" list. That's why I sympathies Turtle because of his poor life.

    • @Dogloverlikesdoge
      @Dogloverlikesdoge  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Definitely! I NEED a Winglet on how Gill and Coral met and fell in love. It could also include Gill's time in the arena, and his descent into madness.

    • @Frostbite961
      @Frostbite961 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Dogloverlikesdoge YESSS make a Gill/ Sewing winglet.

  • @perilysed
    @perilysed 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Gill could've been such an interesting character it's a shame he died only in the first book. I also think that the trauma that he caused Turtle is disturbing. I couldn't imagine being in Turtle's position. Gill really shows what grief and sorrow can do to person/dragon.

    • @Bry-Guy909
      @Bry-Guy909 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      He still was an interesting character even though he died.

  • @thehyperscientist1961
    @thehyperscientist1961 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This is just another example of how Wings of Fire has the same effect as people saying "Avatar is a kids show". Maybe there could be some sort of multi-POV book like Legends: Darkstalker on Gill and a couple of other dragon fathers (like Char and Malachite) or just something on the dragon kings of each of the Pyrrhian tribes (save for RainWings and MudWings). The dragon kings are almost never talked about. Besides Gill and Char, our knowledge of them is basically zero.
    P.S. If the Wings of Fire Netflix show wasn't cancelled, I'm confident it could've reached Avatar: The Last AirBender levels

    • @Dogloverlikesdoge
      @Dogloverlikesdoge  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      A father Winglet would be pretty awesome! I've never thought about it before.
      We don't see many male POVs in the series, so it would be interesting. It could center around the different kings and their lives, or even just regular WoF fathers.

  • @graycreature
    @graycreature 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I've got some ideas
    What if Stonemover never put the stone scales enchantment on himself?
    What if Kestrel threw Peril, into the river instead of Sky?
    What if the IceWings never lost their animus magic?
    What if Blaze became the queen?
    I hope you like these ideas!

  • @whodawhattha2577
    @whodawhattha2577 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    *He lived such a sad sad life poor guy he just wanted to protect his wife and his eggs*
    😔

  • @Wingzoskates
    @Wingzoskates 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    2nd comment you should do a discussion sky 1. What is your opinion on perils sibling sky. 2. How did sky tie in to the main plot of arc three. In my opinion your videos are awesome and you could probably make something out of this.

  • @Waste_of_Space
    @Waste_of_Space 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Oof, cant believe it didnt show me this! This is a great analysis video, good job!

  • @hashtagcool112
    @hashtagcool112 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wow I never thought about that

  • @skylordlucasissecretlyquil6592
    @skylordlucasissecretlyquil6592 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    in book 14 in the glacial pov visision she said she would step down as queen if 1 of her dauthers challanged her for the throne so i wonder would coal do the same

  • @Cr4ving__nachøZ
    @Cr4ving__nachøZ ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Gills death was horrible and broke many members of his family

  • @StarFox9301
    @StarFox9301 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Do you think anyone knows Tsunami killed her own father? There's a hint in book 4 Star flight might know, we never see Tsunami tell anyone.

    • @Dogloverlikesdoge
      @Dogloverlikesdoge  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      As far as I'm aware, she didn't tell anybody. It would make sense if she told one person in her life (like Starflight because she knew he wouldn't judge her), but I don't know of anyone

  • @ZESTUDIOS-fw7lz
    @ZESTUDIOS-fw7lz 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Gill technically wouldn't have the royal patterns since he married into the royal family and wasn't part of it until after he married Coral.

  • @LavenderDoesStufYT
    @LavenderDoesStufYT 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Gill has always been one of my few favorite side characters

  • @user-qz7qm1cn4r
    @user-qz7qm1cn4r หลายเดือนก่อน

    Gill was a bystander. He never told Coral that she was being an awful mother, and never truly did anything for his sons. He just kept on going with Coral. They should’ve killed some of their sons, too, because their life on Phyrria was awful.
    Also, could you make an AU where the statue of Orca killed all of the royal dragonets?

  • @RequiemForRavenholm
    @RequiemForRavenholm 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    ig im early. love your videos.

  • @fish2380
    @fish2380 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I had no idea Tui didn't know Gill was Tsunami's father, that is interesting!

  • @live4life551
    @live4life551 ปีที่แล้ว

    If anyone makes an AU fanfic they NEED to spare Gill

  • @midnightthesmartfox9981
    @midnightthesmartfox9981 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I actually don’t think Scarlet would’ve known Gill and Tsunami were related because only seawings with Royal blood have the pattens on their wings
    Gill was a noble so no royal blood in him
    Although I guess you could argue that she would’ve known because Gill was commanding the SeaWings while Coral watched Anemones egg
    Not even sure why I made this comment

  • @Nek0ru
    @Nek0ru 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    HAY! I have a story Idea!!!
    what if Hawthorn didn't die!
    I think this would be cool to know because his entire character was basically completely wasted :(

  • @Caleb.Ramdial
    @Caleb.Ramdial 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Pls do a character analysis on fathom

  • @Michael_Jackson15
    @Michael_Jackson15 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think that tui should start a series like legends instead name it Somthing cool like and adapt the stories from cyprus and you etc

  • @notYOUagain-
    @notYOUagain- 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Blooper. Reel.

  • @greatness4
    @greatness4 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Милая ос :)