That's a hot take about Sonic if I ever saw one, that's like complaining about a rhythm game because you need to memorize the inputs in order to play optimally.
I'm the neighbor that got sega genesis when my famicom broke,my neighbor have snes we often swap consoles and i like the snes more because I love jrpg.
I played bowling on wii with my dad for hours on end, the only time he ever played a videogame ever and now that he has passed it is a cherrished memory.
I love hearing other people's experiences with games, because as an artistic medium, lots of people derive lots of different things from what they play (ESPECIALLY the story-focused games) but that being said, I could not disagree more with the takes on Wonder LMAO I think that game, even outside of the wonder seeds is EXTREMELY innovative and fresh and I loved it beginning to end, so I really wanna know more on why it didn't do it for you! I'd love to see a video detailing your thoughts on it someday :D
Your granny probably had a NES because her husband or kids played it, and they just left it there, when they moved on to something else. My mom was bad at pawning everything we no longer used off because we live in a small place, and it pretty much destroyed my sentimentality or desire for souvenirs or anything of the like, but some people with bigger spaces don't get rid of things, they collect it, and shift it around. My first gaming experience was with my dad's Atari 2600 and in my opinion there was only about ten games that were any good. My first grade Christmas gift was an NES, and Mario and Zelda (And Megaman and Metroid) were the first games I ever played that were so good they had infinite replay value, and it had dozens of games worth renting and playing thru (during the game rental age). The SNES was awesome for the same reason.
Even if Stadia was subscription based it still would have failed. Fact is it was too early for a cloud only console. Not everyone at the time could afford the fastest internet speeds. And even if you could afford faster speeds, there are locations where those services are outright not available. There's also the issue of input lag on top of internet lag. Making the service subscription based would just make more people willing to try it. The core issues would still exist.
I was with you until you started shitting on the Sega Genesis. Golden Axe, Revenge of Shinobi, Mighty Morphin Power Rangers, Sonic (& Knuckles), Super Hang On, Madden, NHL, STREETS OF RAGE ARE YOU F*CKING kidding me DUDE. And ALL of these games had banger soundtracks. Gtfo out here dawg 😂
I totally agree with you about sonic. Even as a child I cannot get into it. I will play it like an hour then go back to my NES and play super mario with my brother.
I'm starting to revert back to Nintendo after leaving it since the N64. I've been having so much fun with the Switch a lot more than playing Wuthering Waves, Modded Skyrim, Battlefield, and Path of Exile 2 on my PC. The portability and the endless selection of arcade games has really helped me dial back down and just play the games for what they are.
I agree with you. I never liked the gameplay for any sonic games. It's clunky, difficult to maneuver and plain and simple just not fun. And before anyone says "skill issue" NO. I'm very good at playing video games. And I could complete sonic levels easily. But it was still a headache and annoying to play the game making it just not fun to play. Sonic is a game for me that's a once and done. Once I'm done with the game, I'm never touching it again. Everything else besides the gameplay for Sonic is awesome. Games are supposed to be fun. And Sonic to me just isn't fun. I've tried it many times and I just couldn't get into it ... 🤷
Nintendo is doing well, because the focus is on gameplay and not just graphics, while Playstation exlusives are mostly now story/movie games. Focus too much on the graphical side will take time when developing games. Nintendo games however don't always even have voice actors, at least not much dialogue. And so Nintendo is able to make more exlusive games. Also, none of the games are on sales that often. Nintendo knows they would probably lose money if they would sell games 90% off like what most publishers are doing.
They currently run the handhelds and that seems where the switch wants to stay which is smart cause their handhelds always did better then their consoles
Nope, Nintendo stationary console are amazing it's just Ps and Xbox has always more power and catered for 3rd party games.... Unlike Nintendo console where successful and the 1st party games always dominates.
@QuantumChrist ya when your hardware is so weak it cant run most of the good 3rd party games all that left is the first party so of corse they sell.. it's kinda brilliant when ya think about it.
tldr nintendo killed his console rival and regretted it so it made 2 more rivals one that they laughed for an hour straight and that rival out of spite they bought one of there studios only to do nothing in the current years because they thought that they could get the ips that that studio worked but belonged to nintedo and the other they almost absorbed nintedo through a deal that would ruin them and used a weaker company to escape the contract on the day of the console reveal because that rival was all about taking over the entertainment
@@philip487 Sonic offers you plenty of alternative pathes to the goal. If you screw one up, you take automatically another one. In Mario though, there is only one path. You have to overcome the challenge they through at you. Which makes Mario games more interesting and awarding than a Sonic game. At least, that's how I see it.
@ right. Sonic's gameplay is essentially mouse in a maze, find the correct path. The only thing that makes a Sonic player better at a level is having played the level before. Trail and error. Even the speed aspect is sus since theirs no penalty to going slow. Meanwhile look at Mario maker. A game where players seek things they've never seen before simply to test their mastery at controlling the character. So one game is fun because Mario is easy to control and hard to master. Sonic is fun because you run into loop-da-loops.
Title: That's not true, Sony won the console wars with the PS4. What happened afterwards however, was that Nintendo was pretty much forced off the heels of the Wii U to bring out a new product that didn't directly compete with the PlayStation. Luckily for Nintendo, they were incredibly successful because they pretty much founded a brand new branch of the videogame industry, that being the Hybrid console. Sony remained the king of traditional home consoles, however, that doesn't even matter, because their sloppiness and arrogance has caused the grounds of traditional consoles to become withered and dry, while the new land that Nintendo has stablished is greener than ever. Sony won the console wars, but if they want to remain alive, they'll have to come over to Nintendo's turf to begin the Console Wars 2.
ppl still on the console war ? Most adults just laugh at that now. Both Sony and MS learned they can get way more money by going multiplatform. I can see nintendo doing the same a gen after the switch 2. Maybe 2. The console itself is still relevant because of the exclusives But I hope we'll see some nintendo games coming on pc in the future. Just for preservation if nothing else.
Lol nope, Nintendo already knew the hack to make successful IP... Nintendo will focus on EXCLUSIVITY on Their Consoles.... As well as making Exclusive games on Mobile! Yup, on mobile, those games are exclusive to smartphone...
@@QuantumChrist Exclusivity is why they make so little money and the least profit despite of having the highest profit margin in console market. Everyone else is winning by selling games on other platforms, making more money by selling to more people. If Nintendo wants me on their platform then better make good games instead of low effort slop that only fanboys would buy. Playstation has only 1 single game I want (Bloodborne), Nintendo not a single one and Xbox already brought Halo to PC (already played on Xbox long time ago, but bought again for PC).
@@spugelo359Lmao, not how it works. Nintendo makes "so little money" because they're the smallest console manufacturer; however they keep the most profit. Sony and MS were hardware and software giants respectively before getting into the gaming space. Any losses they take will just get absorbed by their parent company. In fact with the Wii money alone, Nintendo could weather 5 Wii U failures back to back. Xbox is barely coping and Sony is hemorrhaging cash after several failed live service games like Concord, which is why the PS5 Pro is $799 with no disk drive. 😂
I agree. This is why I do not consider myself a "console" gamer. I tried to get into Nintendo a couple of times, and never could. I missed the whole NES/SNES era because I was on C64 and Amiga at the time. Later, I bought the Wii and I ended up selling it. My Switch gathers dust. On the other hand I still have my original PS1 and play it regularly, also my PSP and Vita (3 of them), up to PS5 and so on. Also PC/Steam Deck. The kind of games available on PC or Sony/Xbox are fundamentally different from the kind of games on Nintendo consoles. They are attracting fundamentally different audiences. The only Nintendo game I could ever get into was Animal Crossing...
That's a hot take about Sonic if I ever saw one, that's like complaining about a rhythm game because you need to memorize the inputs in order to play optimally.
6:45 - . . . That's the first level my guy, that's not a skill issue, that's you not even playing the game.
06:56 It's the first level of Sonic 3. You never made it to that level if you never played the game.
My neighbor had a Dreamcast 😂
The plot thickens
I did too years ago when it was around.Great console and fun games. Now I use my steam deck if I feel like playing Dreamcast games.
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I'm the neighbor that got sega genesis when my famicom broke,my neighbor have snes we often swap consoles and i like the snes more because I love jrpg.
I played bowling on wii with my dad for hours on end, the only time he ever played a videogame ever and now that he has passed it is a cherrished memory.
I love hearing other people's experiences with games, because as an artistic medium, lots of people derive lots of different things from what they play (ESPECIALLY the story-focused games) but that being said, I could not disagree more with the takes on Wonder LMAO
I think that game, even outside of the wonder seeds is EXTREMELY innovative and fresh and I loved it beginning to end, so I really wanna know more on why it didn't do it for you! I'd love to see a video detailing your thoughts on it someday :D
5:10 I wanted to love sonic but I never saw the point to the game. I'd end up at the end of the level, no matter how badly I played 🤷♂
Your granny probably had a NES because her husband or kids played it, and they just left it there, when they moved on to something else. My mom was bad at pawning everything we no longer used off because we live in a small place, and it pretty much destroyed my sentimentality or desire for souvenirs or anything of the like, but some people with bigger spaces don't get rid of things, they collect it, and shift it around. My first gaming experience was with my dad's Atari 2600 and in my opinion there was only about ten games that were any good. My first grade Christmas gift was an NES, and Mario and Zelda (And Megaman and Metroid) were the first games I ever played that were so good they had infinite replay value, and it had dozens of games worth renting and playing thru (during the game rental age). The SNES was awesome for the same reason.
I was the neighbor with the Genesis and Dreamcast. To be fair though, my first ever console was SNES and I also owned a Playstation.
Even if Stadia was subscription based it still would have failed. Fact is it was too early for a cloud only console. Not everyone at the time could afford the fastest internet speeds. And even if you could afford faster speeds, there are locations where those services are outright not available. There's also the issue of input lag on top of internet lag. Making the service subscription based would just make more people willing to try it. The core issues would still exist.
I was with you until you started shitting on the Sega Genesis. Golden Axe, Revenge of Shinobi, Mighty Morphin Power Rangers, Sonic (& Knuckles), Super Hang On, Madden, NHL, STREETS OF RAGE ARE YOU F*CKING kidding me DUDE. And ALL of these games had banger soundtracks. Gtfo out here dawg 😂
I totally agree with you about sonic. Even as a child I cannot get into it. I will play it like an hour then go back to my NES and play super mario with my brother.
I'm starting to revert back to Nintendo after leaving it since the N64. I've been having so much fun with the Switch a lot more than playing Wuthering Waves, Modded Skyrim, Battlefield, and Path of Exile 2 on my PC. The portability and the endless selection of arcade games has really helped me dial back down and just play the games for what they are.
My backdoor neighbor/friend had a Sega Gensis.😂
I'll take the 90's console wars over this dreck any day, especially from PC fanboys.
People hating on Sonic need to turn in their gamer cards NOW.
You nailed it. Sega did feel and look cheaper. Nintendo has a quality and design that is second to none.
How is Nintendo winning a console gen equivalent to Nintendo winning the console wars? Can someone explain this to me plz
I didn’t even know there was a war going on
Since 1984 Sir, many casualties😢
I agree with you. I never liked the gameplay for any sonic games. It's clunky, difficult to maneuver and plain and simple just not fun. And before anyone says "skill issue" NO. I'm very good at playing video games. And I could complete sonic levels easily. But it was still a headache and annoying to play the game making it just not fun to play.
Sonic is a game for me that's a once and done. Once I'm done with the game, I'm never touching it again. Everything else besides the gameplay for Sonic is awesome.
Games are supposed to be fun. And Sonic to me just isn't fun. I've tried it many times and I just couldn't get into it ... 🤷
Bro needs to play DK Tropical Freeze to understand side scroller platforms.
PS5 and Xbox are basically PC's without spreadsheet and word.
Nintendo is doing well, because the focus is on gameplay and not just graphics, while Playstation exlusives are mostly now story/movie games. Focus too much on the graphical side will take time when developing games. Nintendo games however don't always even have voice actors, at least not much dialogue. And so Nintendo is able to make more exlusive games. Also, none of the games are on sales that often. Nintendo knows they would probably lose money if they would sell games 90% off like what most publishers are doing.
They currently run the handhelds and that seems where the switch wants to stay which is smart cause their handhelds always did better then their consoles
Nope, Nintendo stationary console are amazing it's just Ps and Xbox has always more power and catered for 3rd party games.... Unlike Nintendo console where successful and the 1st party games always dominates.
@QuantumChrist ya when your hardware is so weak it cant run most of the good 3rd party games all that left is the first party so of corse they sell.. it's kinda brilliant when ya think about it.
tldr nintendo killed his console rival and regretted it so it made 2 more rivals
one that they laughed for an hour straight and that rival out of spite they bought one of there studios only to do nothing in the current years because they thought that they could get the ips that that studio worked but belonged to nintedo
and the other they almost absorbed nintedo through a deal that would ruin them and used a weaker company to escape the contract on the day of the console reveal because that rival was all about taking over the entertainment
I'd say Mario is easier than Sonic. Not that sonic is a bad game....not the same.
What makes Sonic difficult? What makes Mario difficult? The depth of those answers shows the gap in quality.
@philip487 i don't understand
@@philip487 Sonic offers you plenty of alternative pathes to the goal. If you screw one up, you take automatically another one. In Mario though, there is only one path. You have to overcome the challenge they through at you. Which makes Mario games more interesting and awarding than a Sonic game. At least, that's how I see it.
@ right. Sonic's gameplay is essentially mouse in a maze, find the correct path. The only thing that makes a Sonic player better at a level is having played the level before. Trail and error. Even the speed aspect is sus since theirs no penalty to going slow. Meanwhile look at Mario maker. A game where players seek things they've never seen before simply to test their mastery at controlling the character. So one game is fun because Mario is easy to control and hard to master. Sonic is fun because you run into loop-da-loops.
Title: That's not true, Sony won the console wars with the PS4.
What happened afterwards however, was that Nintendo was pretty much forced off the heels of the Wii U to bring out a new product that didn't directly compete with the PlayStation.
Luckily for Nintendo, they were incredibly successful because they pretty much founded a brand new branch of the videogame industry, that being the Hybrid console.
Sony remained the king of traditional home consoles, however, that doesn't even matter, because their sloppiness and arrogance has caused the grounds of traditional consoles to become withered and dry, while the new land that Nintendo has stablished is greener than ever.
Sony won the console wars, but if they want to remain alive, they'll have to come over to Nintendo's turf to begin the Console Wars 2.
9:56 - Oh so this Goose guy agrees actually!
Pony Logic. You gotta love the audacity.
Funny because console wars were never limited to home consoles, they were just the focus at the time.
They definitely did although they are 3rd in gaming revenue...so yay I guess.
This video is sooo long and so many pauses.
well its taken from his live stream and hes reacting to the vid
ppl still on the console war ? Most adults just laugh at that now. Both Sony and MS learned they can get way more money by going multiplatform. I can see nintendo doing the same a gen after the switch 2. Maybe 2.
The console itself is still relevant because of the exclusives But I hope we'll see some nintendo games coming on pc in the future. Just for preservation if nothing else.
Lol nope, Nintendo already knew the hack to make successful IP...
Nintendo will focus on EXCLUSIVITY on Their Consoles.... As well as making Exclusive games on Mobile! Yup, on mobile, those games are exclusive to smartphone...
@@QuantumChrist Exclusivity is why they make so little money and the least profit despite of having the highest profit margin in console market. Everyone else is winning by selling games on other platforms, making more money by selling to more people. If Nintendo wants me on their platform then better make good games instead of low effort slop that only fanboys would buy. Playstation has only 1 single game I want (Bloodborne), Nintendo not a single one and Xbox already brought Halo to PC (already played on Xbox long time ago, but bought again for PC).
@@spugelo359Lmao, not how it works. Nintendo makes "so little money" because they're the smallest console manufacturer; however they keep the most profit. Sony and MS were hardware and software giants respectively before getting into the gaming space. Any losses they take will just get absorbed by their parent company. In fact with the Wii money alone, Nintendo could weather 5 Wii U failures back to back. Xbox is barely coping and Sony is hemorrhaging cash after several failed live service games like Concord, which is why the PS5 Pro is $799 with no disk drive. 😂
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lol errrr ok kiddies...
Won by being in last place? Laughable. Even Xbox earns more by selling less consoles and more games instead.
I agree. This is why I do not consider myself a "console" gamer. I tried to get into Nintendo a couple of times, and never could. I missed the whole NES/SNES era because I was on C64 and Amiga at the time. Later, I bought the Wii and I ended up selling it. My Switch gathers dust. On the other hand I still have my original PS1 and play it regularly, also my PSP and Vita (3 of them), up to PS5 and so on. Also PC/Steam Deck. The kind of games available on PC or Sony/Xbox are fundamentally different from the kind of games on Nintendo consoles. They are attracting fundamentally different audiences. The only Nintendo game I could ever get into was Animal Crossing...
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