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LOVE it as always! Go look up David at GoneBoonDockiing YT He has an HOUR SHOWER that filters your shower water so you can just stand under your water spicket and just enjoy an hour shower.
@@xxshevilxx she has been going by her middle name, Roe, for a while now with friends and family. She decided it was time to let all you in on it too! She has always liked her middle name more than her first name.
We have a 50-gallon truck mounted water tank with a 12vdc pump setup similar to yours. But, we do not have a composting toilet. We added a truck mounted 39-gallon blue-boy with a macerator that allows me to haul away black and gray water. We have camped in the desert (LTVA in Quartzsite, AZ) for 4 months without moving; just hauling in water and out waste. The system you have will serve you well!
Great video. I will save initial cold shower water in bucket while waiting for water to warm up to take a shower. I later use this cold clean water for dishes, washing hands through out day, etc.
Hey guys, we use similar Jerry cans, 8 - 7 gallon tanks I have strapped to the front of the bed. 58 gallons in the RV tank and 54 gallons extra, Then I use a standard RV water pump with a hose to refill the RV tank. Works great. We just have a tonneau cover over the truck bed, so the only thing that needs to be stored on top of the tanks is the water pump and the hose
Nice info... Since we have a small travel trailer and we pull it with a 1/2 ton pickup I purchased a rigid polly tank in the bed of the truck I also placed an air valve in the lid and when i need to transfer the water to the trailer holding tank I put a small 12 volt air compressor on the air valve and this helps transfer the water.
To conserve water we have a coffee pot that we will heat up some water on we use that pot to pour out rinse water over our clean dishes because we can do a very small stream of water at a time rather than turning on the faucet and losing a lot of that water down the drain.
I use vinegar and paper towels for dishes. One can burn the towels after they air dry, or use cloth and put in regular laundry. There's a guy who made an Hour Shower with a filter that's real neat. I haven't used one, but it seems really cool. He goes under Gone Boondocking and in general has a lot of tips. He's a little bit of a strange dude.. but his ideas seem sound. I asked him about using the system for laundry and dishes. He had concerns about food, but he said that laundry would be a good use. I've seen another RVer evaporate her gray. That was a whole rigmarole but was kinda neat. She opened her valve only to a drip, put a thick sock around the hose end. That "dripped" into a box of rocks. It usually was evaporated before it actually hit the rocks but sometimes if the end got sopping, it would hit the rocks and dry out there. This is best for very dry climates.
You guys are awesome. Thanks for the tip! Here’s mine: boil your pasta in juust enough water to cover it, and when it’s cooked completely use that liquid gold for any sauces,bread, steaming veggies, soups, some people even use it cosmetically. You’ll love it 👍
We just recently bought a bottle of Dawn Powerwash Dish Spray. This cuts our water usage because you spray the soap and wipe. The water needed is for the rinse. It is not plant based but Dawn is safe enough to clean oil off of ducks so I think it is safe enough.
I love the tank Idea. Our 27' TT holds 141 gallons of water, which is great for how we camp (Boondocking). We use a 45 Gallon water tank (Blatter)if we need more which folds up nice & neat. We do use a pump to transfer the water to and from to tanks. (Portable RV Fresh Water Tank, 45 Gallon from camping world)
A simple way to draw water from your truck storage tank to the trailer is to connect the hose to the winter antifreeze intake (if equipped) after shutting off the intake from you trailer fresh water tank. This will utilize the existing fresh water pump that comes with the trailer. You would have to prime the hose with water first.
To all the folks who are concerned (rightfully so) about the weight.. here is some math. Thankfully they have a real 3/4 ton truck that has a 2900 pound payload. A lot of 3/4 trucks with turbo diesel, sun roofs, leather power seats and such are lucky to see around 2000 pounds. So let's take; Tank 50 pounds Water 625 pounds Shell 150 pounds 2 ebikes 126 pounds Pets 120 pounds Roe and David 260 pounds Let's add another 150 pounds for other stuff in the bed. That comes up to 1481. So 2900 minus comes up with 1400 pounds left over for hitch weight of their trailer. Their trailer is 575 pounds from the factory so they have quite the reserve. I also doubt they going down the road with the 75 gallon tank in the truck full until they get close to their final spot . Bottom line, they have it safe and sound. I wish more folks had their tow rigs with not near the max.
Thank you so much for this comment Bill. You hit the nail right on the head! It gets exhausting when person after person tells me our setup can't handle the extra weight when they know nothing about our setup and the actual GVWR/GCWR of our truck and trailer. I really appreciate your accurate and well thought out comment 👍 -David
Informative post! We backed out of a trailer we offered on once we did the numbers and saw it would make us 200lbs over our payload. Sooo many people told us to go ahead and do it. Um... no thanks. What if we added something on the road? We are focused on the safety and not destroying our truck.
@@alaskangalb oh wow! Well I'm glad you backed out on it then! Yeah safety should definitely be your #1 priority. Don't get a larger trailer than your truck can handle 👍
So glad to see this post!😀. That was, like everyone else, my first thought-weight/payload. I’m glad to know you have already covered that territory! I’m hoping to become an RV user someday and have learned so much from “Fate Unbound” and other channels.
@@FateUnbound I just found you and, given your comment about weight distribution and leveling the truck while towing, it was clear to me that you have thought this out very well! Well done on a very informative video for this interested bystander (for now!).
This is soooo helpful! We are moving to our land in Evansville Wyo and aren't able to drill a well yet...so living in our fifth wheel, and we have goats, rabbits, and horses....this water storage idea, especially with the pump, is so helpful! Thank you!
Excellent setup. You may want to consider installing brass quick-release hose connections on the hoses and pump. I have them installed on the RV for the hose and filter connections and its easy! Be safe out there!
1.Use your trailer roof to gather rain water. On the way down to the fresh water tank, have an easily accessible thus changeable prefilter (coffee filter) and a Sawyer squeeze filter before it goes into the tank. 2. I also like the "One Hour Shower" idea. Huge water savings.
Another thing we do is if we are able to have a campfire, we use our gray water to put it out dead. We carry a gallon jug and have a place that a small hose attaches on the gray tank exit cap. That frees up space in the gray tank. Plus we do all the other things you suggested. With a little bit of effort it is pretty easy to make your water last.
You could use a spray bottle filled with soapy water to spray on dishes and wash with a sponge. Then rinse dishes in rinse bucket, and dump rinse water outside when finished.
I know you have a 3/4 ton truck with good payload but I think you should really go through a scale fully loaded and hooked to trailer and make sure you are not above your payload. Not to mention hauling a liquid is about the worst cargo you could have for safety reasons as it can slosh around shifting the weight in your truck and usually in the direction you don’t want it to go (like when rounding a corner). Love your videos! Stay safe!!
Doing a weight and balance check is never a bad idea, but remember that he's an engineer (so am I) and not much of a wildman, so he's surely thought it through. (That's what we do, there is no off switch for it when faced with a technical matter.) If the tank has the full 75 gallons (600 pounds) of water in it, how exactly is it going to shift or slosh around in the tank? A full plastic water tank might as well be a solid block of plastic. And if it's empty, how is it going to shift or slosh? It's an empty plastic tank full of air. So now we're left just worrying what happens with it half full, 300 pounds of water in a tank the full width of a pickup bed, with the cross section being the size of a medium pizza box. 150 pounds of water in the left half, 150 pounds in the right half. 9 inches deep of water, its center of mass nice and low. Say a hard turn leaves one entire side bone dry and the other side packed full. Same weight shift as a 150 pound object moving 1/2 the width of the tank/bed, or a 75 pound dog crossing the whole width. Not exactly going to upset a pretty heavy pickup, or a lot of dogs would need to be buckled in. The lateral force from the cornering, and the center of mass, are more important than the weight shift or sloshing in this case. Can a Chevy 2500 safely drive around a curve with 300 pounds in the front of the bed down low, with at most 75-150 pounds of it moving around? I sure think it's not a problem. But then again, maybe I'm a wildman: I've divided up 2000 pounds of wood pellets into 3 trips in a Prius and fearlessly still driven around curves.
Wow you guys that's brilliant!! We an auxiliary water tank and pump we had a farm out in the field. Your idea of Putting it in the bed of the truck makes perfect sense. I definitely am saving this video and sharing it!
You probably have already thought of this... but for the times that you can't get close to a spigot to fill up the truck tank directly, get a short run of clear hose to put in the 6 gallon water cans and use the pump to fill the truck tank from the can. I've done this and I have made one with PVC pipe with a elbow/hose adapter so I am not fishing the hose. You still have to ferry cans of water back to your truck, but it gives you options... and options are good!
EXCELLENT: Thought #1 - run an electric cable or tap into the existing truck electrical to power the pump. Thought #2 - mount the water hoses and pump to a panel at the right rear of the truck bed ... and an on/off switch too. Thought #3 - install an electronic open/close valve to the gray water tank. Thought #4 - since you have a gray water dump hose, and since everything is plant based, why not water some cactus/plants/grass lands a short distance from your trailer (hopefully it's legal to do so). Carry on, enjoy the show very much.
Love, love, love those aerial shots! You can cut your water usage and drying time by using Turkish towels instead of those thick ones. There are new inexpensive portable wash/spin machines you can probably power with your solar that clean well and spin the clothes almost dry. The Costway Mini with spinner has good reviews on Amazon and is only 20” tall. There’s no way I would take another long trip without it.
My son and I added one of those shower "tent" things that people use when tent camping to our trailer. Works great for a shower outside next to the camper and none of that water goes into the tank. Next summer I think we will upgrade to a two room one so we have a place to get dressed and dont have to make a mad towel covered dash back inside.
Here’s an idea for you. Related to powering your 12 volt water pump, keep in mind that you have electric power to the taillights. (You may need to turn on the lights, but you can easily tap into the wires to your taillights and instal a cigarette lighter receptor inside the truck bed. Just put the appropriate charger plug on your wires and plug in when you need the power. No need to run the wire to the trailer or under the hood. Very cheap to do. Hope this helps you.
I see you have a Ryobi tool in your truck. Ryobi makes an 18 volt pump that you would not have to hook up to the 12 volt battery, thus eliminating the cables. This is what I use and it works flawless. It has the water hose fittings already on it.
Ohhhh I didn't know that. Is it drinking water safe? Thanks for the tip I'll look into it! If it is as quick and powerful as the pump I've got ill definitely pick that up.
Yes, like any other pump along as you don't pump other junk with it. I have one for sums (river and streams) and another for fresh water transfer that stays hooked to my water tank.
Fantastic! I'm currently stocking up on freeze dried food, Thrive Life, very tasty, and my next issue was water and you've given me a great path to follow, Thanks!!
What a great idea! Nicely executed! That should save a TON of work. Suggestion for gray water would be a 50 gallon flat tank you could put in the bed of the truck. It looks like you have room. Then set up another pump system for that.
I also use a secondary water tank (40 gals.) in the bed of my truck. It's not permanent but it sure made refilling the trailer a lot easier not having to hold the weight of the jerry cans. A spare rv pump and hoses works great to speed up the transfer. My pump is connected to a long cord ending at a 7-way plug to use the trailer receptacle of my truck. I DO like your battery clip set-up better, it seems to be more versatile about power options. Thanks for the inspiration.
I built a similar setup, i hardwired my pump to the truck using a Fimco wireless on/off controller so i have a key fob to wireless activate the pump, i hook my truck tank to my city inlet and just use the pump on the truck for pressure, once the trucks tank is empty, i have a full tank still on the trailer and i can drive to town and fill the trucks tank again if needed
Okay I know I'm not an RVer yet, but that system is way smarter than the Jerry cans, and for anyone with trouble lifting, that pump is just perfect. I've been trying to research things like this for my future use, and I'm definitely saving this video for that. Genius idea, and way better for the weight distribution!
I've thought about this project, too. In my thinking I also figured that a second tank in the bed of the truck to use for gray/black storage. We don't want a composting toilet. Using a Flo-Jet macerating pump, I think I could pump our waste into it. However, dumping the auxiliary tank would probably require using the Flo-Jet again because of the sinking of the solids.
We have two 55 gal water drums setup about like yours in the bed of our truck. We just bought a new to us trailer and we will 150 gals of water between the three tanks. And yes we live to boondock camp
Sponge baths....wearing clothing like shorts,shirts and pants more than once. Use a gallon jug to wash and rinse hair or for bathing , if it’s hot. Two bucket method for washing and rinsing of dishes....all about water conservation on both ends. Save daily use dish grey water in a bucket, for pre-rinse of dishes, before you wash them, will reduce water needs. Save pasta water for second cooking use, such as soups and stews. Smaller towels or those specialty survival towels that whisk away water and use them multiple times. Single use is definitely a water hog. Light weight clothing is another water saver. Drain hoses for laundry water, if your using environmentally safe products. Happy travels and thanks you two😊
Great stuff guys! Someone may have mentioned it below, but what I've recently started doing is only using paper towels to wipe down plates and dishes immediately after using and then spraying vinegar water on them and wiping them down again. Works for most any dirty dishes, as long as you get to them immediately after using. Zero water consumption.
Paper towels are our friend, and since I like to do the dishes (yes, it's true) I have found that clean-up of pots and pans works way better right immediately after cooking while they are still hot and the food hasn't cemented itself to the surface. Then we add the paper towels to our night fire or save them for later disposal.
You guys are amazing! Oh, and by the way, Congratulations on reaching over 100K subscribers!! You've inspired so many and are well loved by this community!
So glad your able to stay as long as you can. With the turmoil around our beautiful country your better off. Stay safe. Look forward to your next vlog. At least its something positive to watch.
I don't have the rig yet but the house is sold and the RV isn't too far off. My plan is to get 2 bladders that fit in the back of my truck, one for fresh water and one for gray/black water. In your case you would only need the gray water bladder but you pump the gray water into the bladder and then just drive the truck to the dump station, maybe when you're getting groceries. You could probably fill your new fresh water tank at the same time. Pretty much give you unlimited time boondocking. The fly in the ointment here is the 14 day limit on most boondocking land, but it might work on LTVA land. Keep the good stuff coming.
We've heard of people using a bladder tank to dump their tanks but we're normally pretty ready to leave once or 2 week stay is up anyway so it's not really a huge deal to have to leave to dump.
High guys, something I use for water storage is PVC pipes. Just attach the pipes to the front, rear and/or roof of the RV using standard fittings in through the end caps. Cheap, easily fitted and can be as large or as small as you want. 🇦🇺
I use a few big Sterilite containers and hose up at the hardware store or some random garden hose in town, and use a battery operated fuel transfer pump to refill the tank, it's pretty sloppy but it works and it's super cheap
please be sure to emphasize to your viewers the other Leave No Trace practices you observe, besides plant-based soaps and shampoos, when disposing of excess grey water in the wilderness, such as: 1) you wipe your dishes and pots clean prior to washing so no food particles are in the dishwater you dump outside to attract animals to your campsite, 2) pasta water is drained into a little hole you dug for it and refilled with dirt to not attract animals either, and 3) you never dump grey water within 200 feet of a surface water or wetlands. Thank you for spreading the messsage of responsible camping. you guys are so cute, with the whole 4-legged family. Keep up the good work with these vidoes from such a practical standpoint.
Funny, I always considered any RV over 20' and under 30' as mid-size, not tiny. When we traded our primitive slide-in camper for our new 1978 20' Roadrunner gooseneck, 8th Grader me thought we really stepped up. Gas-electric fridge, furnace, AC, and full bath (Goodbye, porta-potty!). The marine toilet was a big convenience improvement itself. We didn't rough it way out in the middle of nowhere, though. State park camping areas with zero hookups, and poorly maintained chemical toilets were the most primitive we got.
Wow! Great idea David and Jenni. less Jerry cans and more storage. It might be more money for set up of water tank and accessories, but it is well werth it. Now y'all have a decent amount of water for two weeks boon docking. To me I rather have the water than having to go out and find water to bring back to site. I really liked how you both set it up. Now it's more time for adventuring and exploring. Take care and God bless both of you and your fur babies.😊🙏
Thinking about creating a similar setup so I went back and rewatched this video. One question, how do you treat your water (guessing add a little bleach) in your 75 gallon tank to prevent mold/mildew? Thanks!
Greeting's from California! Where did I miss that Jenny became Roe? Continued safe travels and glorious boondocking spot's! Love to Sweetie and the Kitties and bunnies!!!
I've been going by my middle name with everyone else I know so I decided to start using it here too since it's the only place left that I don't go by Roe.
@@FateUnbound That's great! I love your TH-cam channel, my family and I are getting prepared to go RVing full-time. And we are benefitting greatly from your content! And we also love our fur babies ❣️ God Bless! Safe travels and stay safe.
Love your correct name. Since I only ever did tent camping (what is grey water storage?), sounds like you are doing what we did. Plant safe soaps are the important point. The plants love the water so long as they can tolerate the soap. Any good camping store will have what you need, and, of course, Amazon. Love the idea and the placement of the new extra tank. Very clever.
RV's have a grey tank for shower and sink water, and a black tank for toilet water. Some areas are fine with dumping the grey water on the ground...but not all areas.
I've been going by my middle name with everyone else I know so I decided to start using it here too since it's the only place left that I don't go by Roe.
@@FateUnbound I literally had to rewind it 3 times at the start! lol Wait what did she call herself???!!! I got it then but thanks for the curve ball HAHA!
We have a similar setup and it’s so nice not to have to mess with jerry cans. Rather than using the clamps and long wires you could install a male 7 pin trailer plug to the pump leads and just plug it into the female truck plug for power and ground.
Hey folks. As a point of safety, please connect the clip to the positive post first. If not you will cause sparks. If there is fuel on your skin, clothes, or too much fuel vapor in the air the sparks can ignite a fire. I always remember "red socks then black shoes" for the post order...red for positive and black for negative or ground. Also, when ever possible, clip to the chassis away from the battery.
Another advantage to your new system is the ability to pump water from creeks or lakes into your tank when faucets aren't available....with the caveat that you'd then need to not swallow any of that water. I lived in a house with only untreated irrigation ditch water for over a year with no ill effects, by drinking bottled water. Use your 6 gallon jugs for drinkable water.
I was told by the makers of these water tanks never to seal a garden hose connection directly to the tank as it is a pressurized line... and even with the 2nd venting port open it still pressurizes faster than it vents and can explode the tank... anybody had this happen?
Another idea is dehydration- Robin From creativity RV TH-cam has a episode on dehydration of the grey tank water. Let it evaporate in a slow and controlled way.
Always check local rules re dumping any sort of soap, though. For example, you've mentioned in prior videos about travel to Canada. Soap is considered a bear attractant. The national parks (which don't permit boondocking), don't allow dumping grey water, doing dishes outside and dumping in the bush or even using an outside shower. Rules in provincial parks vary somewhat, but you still can't dump from your grey tanks (that will get you a fine or ban). Actual US BLM-style boondocking is pretty rare in Western Canada (closest in BC is Forest Service camping and even that has rules).
Nice solution... I was thinking it would be like a 55 or 30 gal barrel because they’re available in food grade plastic and at about 30” tall a low point port would give you pretty good pressure to fill the RV (at least partially) without having to use a pump
I think your current solution is superior to individual water jugs, but might I recommend that you switch to two Reliance brand water jugs, and get one of their screw in water purifiers as well? It's higher quality than the Ozark, and.. water purifier. For anyone trying to extend their water capacity on the cheap side, commercial grade 5-7 gallon water containers are WAY more durable than these containers, AND they're stackable. That means that they are much more space efficient, and they are load bearing, so you can lay a plank on them and stack stuff on top of them. :) Also, you can knock the plug out of the plastic bung and screw a spigot in to them, or even pipe them together to make a cheap water storage tank of your own. :) Consider using the top hose to fill. It will aerate the water better and give it a better flavor for drinking, and won't have that 'stale' water taste you get from water that's been stored for a while. Since it's in a closed (sunlight free) tank, algae shouldn't be a problem either. Speaking of algae, get a good inline filter to use EVERY time you fill that tank. I got tired of trying to figure out where the RV hose filters are actually rated at, so I opted for a brass and glass whole house particulate filter, with a drain on the bottom. FYI you're SUPPOSED to not use brass water fittings on potable (drinking) water, because it can leach lead in to the water. Good luck finding all of those fittings in stainless, though. :P IDEA: Mount a stock water tank (farm / ranch) float arm in your RV fresh water tank, then you can wire your secondary tank up to automatically fill your RV tank. ..I wouldn't leave the secondary pump automatically draining your truck battery, though. ;) Hmm.. you might be able to wire up the 1/2 tank indicator somehow to automatically fill the tank using a relay, then use the 3/4 tank indicator to turn it off. Kind of depends on how your indicator is wired up. I wouldn't rely on the full indicator, if you're sitting at an angle, it might overfill the tank and just dump 75 gallons of water out the tank overfill hose.
One last tip for you two, (or anyone else reading this). The Dawn foamy dish soap (don't recall the name, it's blue with a silvery label) is great for washing one-two dishes because you actually get a very tiny amount of soap, which is all you need to wash A dish. :)
That's a thought I've never had before. You probably could but with it being under the truck there's a lot more to consider than it being safe and relatively clean covered by the camper shell.
Hey love the videos, keep'm coming! We stay at the RV parks, but I just bought the same style tank you did. One thing I did is to use the 7 pin trailer plug on the truck to save the trouble of the jumpers. I have the trailer batteries in a battery box and the strap is impossible to undo.
Type hour shower into TH-cam‘s search bar. Most of my grey water use is showering and washing. This system is easy to build and looks like it would work well for my use.
As for tips for consumption of fresh water, this requires some re-engineering of the shower, but can offer much longer showers, assuming sufficient solar/battery power for the water pump. Be sure to use a high quality, energy efficient water pump,,, they are probably pricey, but it is important for this project to work very well. It's a recirculating the shower water. This requires two different shower drain systems, and maybe two different shower heads. The existing standard drain, that into the gray water system, and the other system, is for re-circulation. Already warmed water, is much easier to keep warm, so after the first min or so, the hot water energy involved is much lower, and total water consumption per shower, is dropped to the minimum. The normal gray water system is for the first part of the shower, dirty soapy cleansing. Then after a short spartan cleaning, and you and the shower are rinsed off, then use the re-circulation system so there's no real water usage after that point. Imagine taking 10 and 20 minuet showers in the RV while boon-docking! Even half hour showers are OK if you have enough solar/battery. You only loose the first part of the shower, plus maybe two cups of water, and half of that is soaked up into the towel after showering. I would change out that water in the new re-circulation tank every so often, like once or twice a year. It doesn't need to be a large tank, but this requires a lot of changes and engineering a new gray water system. I love the idea of no water loss after the cleaning stage is done, and then relax like in a sauna or hot tub. Best wishes! Love your videos! ;)
Make sure your tank is WELL secured to the frame. If you stand on the brakes (or hit something) you're going to have 1200 pounds of weight heading straight into the cab.
its only a 75 gallon tank so not that much weight and it is at the front of the bed so there is no room for it to move forward. good point about securing it that should be done for any heavy item that could move.
1.5 teaspoons of 8.25 %, or 2 tsp of 6% bleach would give 2PPM chlorine for 75 Gal. That would keep you safe, even in warm weather, without adding taste. Below 2ppm isn't noticable, and by the time the trailer tank needed refilling it would be well below that threshold.
The only thing thats missing is a basic filter to protect your pump , yea city water has things in it , i have been using a "whole" house basic filter before my rv gets filled when i flushed my water tank the very first time i was surprised at how much "stuff" was in the tank.
He doesn't have full use of his right shoulder yet, but is healing very nicely. I still have to help with a lot of heavy lifting but his range of motion is almost back to normal as long as he moves it slowly. -Roe
With filters that allow safely drinking pond water it would be better to setup a filter system to clean and reuse the gray water. keep fresh water for drinking and cooking filter and reuse gray water for sowers and laundry
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LOVE it as always! Go look up David at GoneBoonDockiing YT He has an HOUR SHOWER that filters your shower water so you can just stand under your water spicket and just enjoy an hour shower.
Did your wife change her name or am I having a major brain fart? I would have bet money it was Jenny.
@@xxshevilxx she has been going by her middle name, Roe, for a while now with friends and family. She decided it was time to let all you in on it too! She has always liked her middle name more than her first name.
@@xxshevilxx Yes she changed her name for some reason . Her name use to be Jenny .
@@bobshaw4063 Ya David said it's her middle name and she likes it better so she's using it now.
We have a 50-gallon truck mounted water tank with a 12vdc pump setup similar to yours. But, we do not have a composting toilet. We added a truck mounted 39-gallon blue-boy with a macerator that allows me to haul away black and gray water. We have camped in the desert (LTVA in Quartzsite, AZ) for 4 months without moving; just hauling in water and out waste. The system you have will serve you well!
Great video. I will save initial cold shower water in bucket while waiting for water to warm up to take a shower. I later use this cold clean water for dishes, washing hands through out day, etc.
Hey guys, we use similar Jerry cans, 8 - 7 gallon tanks I have strapped to the front of the bed. 58 gallons in the RV tank and 54 gallons extra, Then I use a standard RV water pump with a hose to refill the RV tank. Works great. We just have a tonneau cover over the truck bed, so the only thing that needs to be stored on top of the tanks is the water pump and the hose
Nice info... Since we have a small travel trailer and we pull it with a 1/2 ton pickup I purchased a rigid polly tank in the bed of the truck I also placed an air valve in the lid and when i need to transfer the water to the trailer holding tank I put a small 12 volt air compressor on the air valve and this helps transfer the water.
To conserve water we have a coffee pot that we will heat up some water on we use that pot to pour out rinse water over our clean dishes because we can do a very small stream of water at a time rather than turning on the faucet and losing a lot of that water down the drain.
I use vinegar and paper towels for dishes. One can burn the towels after they air dry, or use cloth and put in regular laundry. There's a guy who made an Hour Shower with a filter that's real neat. I haven't used one, but it seems really cool. He goes under Gone Boondocking and in general has a lot of tips. He's a little bit of a strange dude.. but his ideas seem sound. I asked him about using the system for laundry and dishes. He had concerns about food, but he said that laundry would be a good use. I've seen another RVer evaporate her gray. That was a whole rigmarole but was kinda neat. She opened her valve only to a drip, put a thick sock around the hose end. That "dripped" into a box of rocks. It usually was evaporated before it actually hit the rocks but sometimes if the end got sopping, it would hit the rocks and dry out there. This is best for very dry climates.
You should wire the feed power to your water pump into a trailer harness connecter, and pull 12v off the rear trailer hitch plug. Just a suggestion.
You guys are awesome. Thanks for the tip! Here’s mine: boil your pasta in juust enough water to cover it, and when it’s cooked completely use that liquid gold for any sauces,bread, steaming veggies, soups, some people even use it cosmetically. You’ll love it 👍
Thank you for the water video👍And bless you all for using unscented, nontoxic soaps💕 And esp. If it is being dumped outside💖🏞🌏💖🏞🌏
We just recently bought a bottle of Dawn Powerwash Dish Spray. This cuts our water usage because you spray the soap and wipe. The water needed is for the rinse. It is not plant based but Dawn is safe enough to clean oil off of ducks so I think it is safe enough.
That's right and wash a dog, wash your car, wash a grill, etc.
Dawn is biodegradable. :)
I love the tank Idea. Our 27' TT holds 141 gallons of water, which is great for how we camp (Boondocking). We use a 45 Gallon water tank (Blatter)if we need more which folds up nice & neat. We do use a pump to transfer the water to and from to tanks. (Portable RV Fresh Water Tank, 45 Gallon from camping world)
A simple way to draw water from your truck storage tank to the trailer is to connect the hose to the winter antifreeze intake (if equipped) after shutting off the intake from you trailer fresh water tank. This will utilize the existing fresh water pump that comes with the trailer. You would have to prime the hose with water first.
To all the folks who are concerned (rightfully so) about the weight.. here is some math.
Thankfully they have a real 3/4 ton truck that has a 2900 pound payload. A lot of 3/4 trucks with turbo diesel, sun roofs, leather power seats and such are lucky to see around 2000 pounds.
So let's take;
Tank 50 pounds
Water 625 pounds
Shell 150 pounds
2 ebikes 126 pounds
Pets 120 pounds
Roe and David 260 pounds
Let's add another 150 pounds for other stuff in the bed.
That comes up to 1481. So 2900 minus comes up with 1400 pounds left over for hitch weight of their trailer. Their trailer is 575 pounds from the factory so they have quite the reserve. I also doubt they going down the road with the 75 gallon tank in the truck full until they get close to their final spot .
Bottom line, they have it safe and sound. I wish more folks had their tow rigs with not near the max.
Thank you so much for this comment Bill. You hit the nail right on the head! It gets exhausting when person after person tells me our setup can't handle the extra weight when they know nothing about our setup and the actual GVWR/GCWR of our truck and trailer. I really appreciate your accurate and well thought out comment 👍
-David
Informative post! We backed out of a trailer we offered on once we did the numbers and saw it would make us 200lbs over our payload. Sooo many people told us to go ahead and do it. Um... no thanks. What if we added something on the road? We are focused on the safety and not destroying our truck.
@@alaskangalb oh wow! Well I'm glad you backed out on it then! Yeah safety should definitely be your #1 priority. Don't get a larger trailer than your truck can handle 👍
So glad to see this post!😀. That was, like everyone else, my first thought-weight/payload. I’m glad to know you have already covered that territory! I’m hoping to become an RV user someday and have learned so much from “Fate Unbound” and other channels.
@@FateUnbound I just found you and, given your comment about weight distribution and leveling the truck while towing, it was clear to me that you have thought this out very well! Well done on a very informative video for this interested bystander (for now!).
Good advise on the Ball Hitch. A lot of People dont realize that you have to lube the Ball.
That’s why we love our little toy hauler...they have huge tanks.
Our fresh water tank is 140 gallons...toy haulers also have fuel tanks to carry 60 gallons of fuel.
This is soooo helpful! We are moving to our land in Evansville Wyo and aren't able to drill a well yet...so living in our fifth wheel, and we have goats, rabbits, and horses....this water storage idea, especially with the pump, is so helpful! Thank you!
Excellent setup. You may want to consider installing brass quick-release hose connections on the hoses and pump. I have them installed on the RV for the hose and filter connections and its easy! Be safe out there!
lovely .. in middle east country there is moseque everywhere to pray .. and we fill our tank from it with gallons .. love from kuwait
1.Use your trailer roof to gather rain water. On the way down to the fresh water tank, have an easily accessible thus changeable prefilter (coffee filter) and a Sawyer squeeze filter before it goes into the tank.
2. I also like the "One Hour Shower" idea. Huge water savings.
those squeeze filters are super slow.
Another thing we do is if we are able to have a campfire, we use our gray water to put it out dead. We carry a gallon jug and have a place that a small hose attaches on the gray tank exit cap. That frees up space in the gray tank. Plus we do all the other things you suggested. With a little bit of effort it is pretty easy to make your water last.
You could use a spray bottle filled with soapy water to spray on dishes and wash with a sponge. Then rinse dishes in rinse bucket, and dump rinse water outside when finished.
I know you have a 3/4 ton truck with good payload but I think you should really go through a scale fully loaded and hooked to trailer and make sure you are not above your payload. Not to mention hauling a liquid is about the worst cargo you could have for safety reasons as it can slosh around shifting the weight in your truck and usually in the direction you don’t want it to go (like when rounding a corner). Love your videos! Stay safe!!
Doing a weight and balance check is never a bad idea, but remember that he's an engineer (so am I) and not much of a wildman, so he's surely thought it through. (That's what we do, there is no off switch for it when faced with a technical matter.) If the tank has the full 75 gallons (600 pounds) of water in it, how exactly is it going to shift or slosh around in the tank? A full plastic water tank might as well be a solid block of plastic. And if it's empty, how is it going to shift or slosh? It's an empty plastic tank full of air. So now we're left just worrying what happens with it half full, 300 pounds of water in a tank the full width of a pickup bed, with the cross section being the size of a medium pizza box. 150 pounds of water in the left half, 150 pounds in the right half. 9 inches deep of water, its center of mass nice and low. Say a hard turn leaves one entire side bone dry and the other side packed full. Same weight shift as a 150 pound object moving 1/2 the width of the tank/bed, or a 75 pound dog crossing the whole width. Not exactly going to upset a pretty heavy pickup, or a lot of dogs would need to be buckled in. The lateral force from the cornering, and the center of mass, are more important than the weight shift or sloshing in this case. Can a Chevy 2500 safely drive around a curve with 300 pounds in the front of the bed down low, with at most 75-150 pounds of it moving around? I sure think it's not a problem. But then again, maybe I'm a wildman: I've divided up 2000 pounds of wood pellets into 3 trips in a Prius and fearlessly still driven around curves.
I love you guys. You are so knowledgeable and informative. David is a very talented handyman. And You both have such sweet personalities.
Wow you guys that's brilliant!! We an auxiliary water tank and pump we had a farm out in the field. Your idea of Putting it in the bed of the truck makes perfect sense. I definitely am saving this video and sharing it!
You probably have already thought of this... but for the times that you can't get close to a spigot to fill up the truck tank directly, get a short run of clear hose to put in the 6 gallon water cans and use the pump to fill the truck tank from the can. I've done this and I have made one with PVC pipe with a elbow/hose adapter so I am not fishing the hose. You still have to ferry cans of water back to your truck, but it gives you options... and options are good!
Creativity RV has a video on how she evaporates the water out of her Gray water tank!! Might want to check it out!
I think what you are doing is ingenious! Also if you did run out you can just take the truck and fill up! Bravo. Great idea!
Great idea! We will definately implement your water capacity storage in our truck.
EXCELLENT: Thought #1 - run an electric cable or tap into the existing truck electrical to power the pump. Thought #2 - mount the water hoses and pump to a panel at the right rear of the truck bed ... and an on/off switch too. Thought #3 - install an electronic open/close valve to the gray water tank. Thought #4 - since you have a gray water dump hose, and since everything is plant based, why not water some cactus/plants/grass lands a short distance from your trailer (hopefully it's legal to do so). Carry on, enjoy the show very much.
Love, love, love those aerial shots! You can cut your water usage and drying time by using Turkish towels instead of those thick ones. There are new inexpensive portable wash/spin machines you can probably power with your solar that clean well and spin the clothes almost dry. The Costway Mini with spinner has good reviews on Amazon and is only 20” tall. There’s no way I would take another long trip without it.
My son and I added one of those shower "tent" things that people use when tent camping to our trailer. Works great for a shower outside next to the camper and none of that water goes into the tank. Next summer I think we will upgrade to a two room one so we have a place to get dressed and dont have to make a mad towel covered dash back inside.
Here’s an idea for you. Related to powering your 12 volt water pump, keep in mind that you have electric power to the taillights. (You may need to turn on the lights, but you can easily tap into the wires to your taillights and instal a cigarette lighter receptor inside the truck bed. Just put the appropriate charger plug on your wires and plug in when you need the power. No need to run the wire to the trailer or under the hood. Very cheap to do. Hope this helps you.
I see you have a Ryobi tool in your truck. Ryobi makes an 18 volt pump that you would not have to hook up to the 12 volt battery, thus eliminating the cables. This is what I use and it works flawless. It has the water hose fittings already on it.
Ohhhh I didn't know that. Is it drinking water safe? Thanks for the tip I'll look into it! If it is as quick and powerful as the pump I've got ill definitely pick that up.
Yes, like any other pump along as you don't pump other junk with it. I have one for sums (river and streams) and another for fresh water transfer that stays hooked to my water tank.
Hey thank you very much! I carry a 18 v Ryobi cordless drill and batteries anyway. I'll check that out. 👍😎
Fantastic! I'm currently stocking up on freeze dried food, Thrive Life, very tasty, and my next issue was water and you've given me a great path to follow, Thanks!!
What a great idea! Nicely executed! That should save a TON of work. Suggestion for gray water would be a 50 gallon flat tank you could put in the bed of the truck. It looks like you have room. Then set up another pump system for that.
I also use a secondary water tank (40 gals.) in the bed of my truck. It's not permanent but it sure made refilling the trailer a lot easier not having to hold the weight of the jerry cans. A spare rv pump and hoses works great to speed up the transfer. My pump is connected to a long cord ending at a 7-way plug to use the trailer receptacle of my truck. I DO like your battery clip set-up better, it seems to be more versatile about power options. Thanks for the inspiration.
EXCELLENT!!! Thank you for sharing your water secrets for lasting 2 weeks!
Nice back yard! Informative video for convenience.
I built a similar setup, i hardwired my pump to the truck using a Fimco wireless on/off controller so i have a key fob to wireless activate the pump, i hook my truck tank to my city inlet and just use the pump on the truck for pressure, once the trucks tank is empty, i have a full tank still on the trailer and i can drive to town and fill the trucks tank again if needed
Another great DIY David. Always appreciate you attention to the details.
Okay I know I'm not an RVer yet, but that system is way smarter than the Jerry cans, and for anyone with trouble lifting, that pump is just perfect. I've been trying to research things like this for my future use, and I'm definitely saving this video for that. Genius idea, and way better for the weight distribution!
You could get power for that Pump in your circle 7 plug and you wouldn't have to have so much cord. Just fyi
That’s what I did it was cheap
Also makes it nice if we need to plug in our electric cooler in the bed
I've thought about this project, too. In my thinking I also figured that a second tank in the bed of the truck to use for gray/black storage. We don't want a composting toilet. Using a Flo-Jet macerating pump, I think I could pump our waste into it. However, dumping the auxiliary tank would probably require using the Flo-Jet again because of the sinking of the solids.
We have two 55 gal water drums setup about like yours in the bed of our truck. We just bought a new to us trailer and we will 150 gals of water between the three tanks. And yes we live to boondock camp
Sponge baths....wearing clothing like shorts,shirts and pants more than once. Use a gallon jug to wash and rinse hair or for bathing , if it’s hot. Two bucket method for washing and rinsing of dishes....all about water conservation on both ends. Save daily use dish grey water in a bucket, for pre-rinse of dishes, before you wash them, will reduce water needs. Save pasta water for second cooking use, such as soups and stews. Smaller towels or those specialty survival towels that whisk away water and use them multiple times. Single use is definitely a water hog. Light weight clothing is another water saver. Drain hoses for laundry water, if your using environmentally safe products. Happy travels and thanks you two😊
Great Tips! Also turn water off when in shower. Saves fresh and grey!
Great stuff guys! Someone may have mentioned it below, but what I've recently started doing is only using paper towels to wipe down plates and dishes immediately after using and then spraying vinegar water on them and wiping them down again. Works for most any dirty dishes, as long as you get to them immediately after using. Zero water consumption.
Paper towels are our friend, and since I like to do the dishes (yes, it's true) I have found that clean-up of pots and pans works way better right immediately after cooking while they are still hot and the food hasn't cemented itself to the surface. Then we add the paper towels to our night fire or save them for later disposal.
You guys are amazing! Oh, and by the way, Congratulations on reaching over 100K subscribers!! You've inspired so many and are well loved by this community!
Aww thank you pugmama! ❤️
So glad your able to stay as long as you can. With the turmoil around our beautiful country your better off. Stay safe. Look forward to your next vlog. At least its something positive to watch.
I don't have the rig yet but the house is sold and the RV isn't too far off. My plan is to get 2 bladders that fit in the back of my truck, one for fresh water and one for gray/black water. In your case you would only need the gray water bladder but you pump the gray water into the bladder and then just drive the truck to the dump station, maybe when you're getting groceries. You could probably fill your new fresh water tank at the same time. Pretty much give you unlimited time boondocking. The fly in the ointment here is the 14 day limit on most boondocking land, but it might work on LTVA land. Keep the good stuff coming.
We've heard of people using a bladder tank to dump their tanks but we're normally pretty ready to leave once or 2 week stay is up anyway so it's not really a huge deal to have to leave to dump.
Love your grey water solutions! I will be getting a water tank now for fresh water. Thanks for all you do to help others 💕
High guys, something I use for water storage is PVC pipes. Just attach the pipes to the front, rear and/or roof of the RV using standard fittings in through the end caps. Cheap, easily fitted and can be as large or as small as you want. 🇦🇺
The PolyVinylChloride toxic chemical:
1. contaminates the water and 2. is definitely NOT recommended for drinking.
My apologies, I missed the c at the beginning. Chlorinated PVC, safe for hot and cold water.
@@JDMumma should also add that PVC is ok for cold water only.
I use a few big Sterilite containers and hose up at the hardware store or some random garden hose in town, and use a battery operated fuel transfer pump to refill the tank, it's pretty sloppy but it works and it's super cheap
please be sure to emphasize to your viewers the other Leave No Trace practices you observe, besides plant-based soaps and shampoos, when disposing of excess grey water in the wilderness, such as: 1) you wipe your dishes and pots clean prior to washing so no food particles are in the dishwater you dump outside to attract animals to your campsite, 2) pasta water is drained into a little hole you dug for it and refilled with dirt to not attract animals either, and 3) you never dump grey water within 200 feet of a surface water or wetlands.
Thank you for spreading the messsage of responsible camping. you guys are so cute, with the whole 4-legged family. Keep up the good work with these vidoes from such a practical standpoint.
Funny, I always considered any RV over 20' and under 30' as mid-size, not tiny. When we traded our primitive slide-in camper for our new 1978 20' Roadrunner gooseneck, 8th Grader me thought we really stepped up. Gas-electric fridge, furnace, AC, and full bath (Goodbye, porta-potty!). The marine toilet was a big convenience improvement itself. We didn't rough it way out in the middle of nowhere, though. State park camping areas with zero hookups, and poorly maintained chemical toilets were the most primitive we got.
Wow! Great idea David and Jenni. less Jerry cans and more storage. It might be more money for set up of water tank and accessories, but it is well werth it. Now y'all have a decent amount of water for two weeks boon docking. To me I rather have the water than having to go out and find water to bring back to site. I really liked how you both set it up. Now it's more time for adventuring and exploring. Take care and God bless both of you and your fur babies.😊🙏
Yes, plus no more lifting those cans.
Thinking about creating a similar setup so I went back and rewatched this video. One question, how do you treat your water (guessing add a little bleach) in your 75 gallon tank to prevent mold/mildew? Thanks!
Great fresh water set up guys!!!
Greeting's from California! Where did I miss that Jenny became Roe? Continued safe travels and glorious boondocking spot's! Love to Sweetie and the Kitties and bunnies!!!
I've been going by my middle name with everyone else I know so I decided to start using it here too since it's the only place left that I don't go by Roe.
@@FateUnbound
That's great! I love your TH-cam channel, my family and I are getting prepared to go RVing full-time. And we are benefitting greatly from your content! And we also love our fur babies ❣️ God Bless! Safe travels and stay safe.
Awesome. Good set up.
Suggestion, how about installing a recirculating water system for your shower and sinks. That would be a great show.
Love your correct name.
Since I only ever did tent camping (what is grey water storage?), sounds like you are doing what we did. Plant safe soaps are the important point. The plants love the water so long as they can tolerate the soap. Any good camping store will have what you need, and, of course, Amazon.
Love the idea and the placement of the new extra tank. Very clever.
RV's have a grey tank for shower and sink water, and a black tank for toilet water. Some areas are fine with dumping the grey water on the ground...but not all areas.
You could build a permanent shelf over the 75 gallon tank that allows you set anything on it, and cutouts for the opening at the top.
As always, love you guys. I missed something... when did Jenny become Ro? She's adorable either way, I'm just old and confused....lol
Wanted to know the same.
I've been going by my middle name with everyone else I know so I decided to start using it here too since it's the only place left that I don't go by Roe.
@@FateUnbound I literally had to rewind it 3 times at the start! lol Wait what did she call herself???!!! I got it then but thanks for the curve ball HAHA!
Haha don't worry, I'm making a post about it tomorrow so it clears things up.
My sister in law hates her first name so she goes by her middle name.
You guys are so smart. Love your videos.
We have a similar setup and it’s so nice not to have to mess with jerry cans. Rather than using the clamps and long wires you could install a male 7 pin trailer plug to the pump leads and just plug it into the female truck plug for power and ground.
Loved this video. Would love to know more about how you do laundry while boon docking. Thanks for the great content.
Hey folks. As a point of safety, please connect the clip to the positive post first. If not you will cause sparks. If there is fuel on your skin, clothes, or too much fuel vapor in the air the sparks can ignite a fire. I always remember "red socks then black shoes" for the post order...red for positive and black for negative or ground. Also, when ever possible, clip to the chassis away from the battery.
Just for the record guys.......*ALWAYS* connect the negative wire *LAST* and disconnect it *FIRST*. Safety first !!
Another advantage to your new system is the ability to pump water from creeks or lakes into your tank when faucets aren't available....with the caveat that you'd then need to not swallow any of that water.
I lived in a house with only untreated irrigation ditch water for over a year with no ill effects, by drinking bottled water. Use your 6 gallon jugs for drinkable water.
The water pump can pump the water through a carbon filter, and get a little stream of drinking water
I think you are more a Jenny then a Roe! Love you guys❤
I was told by the makers of these water tanks never to seal a garden hose connection directly to the tank as it is a pressurized line... and even with the 2nd venting port open it still pressurizes faster than it vents and can explode the tank... anybody had this happen?
Very interesting! Thanks for another great video!
LOL!! Roe... I’ll get used it. I love you guys!!!
That is what you would have to do if you were tent camping, so they are all great ideas..
That brilliant. I often though why people don't do that.
Another idea is dehydration- Robin From creativity RV TH-cam has a episode on dehydration of the grey tank water. Let it evaporate in a slow and controlled way.
Happy for your adventures. Love your attitudes! Love seeing your tips and journal.... :)
Always check local rules re dumping any sort of soap, though. For example, you've mentioned in prior videos about travel to Canada. Soap is considered a bear attractant. The national parks (which don't permit boondocking), don't allow dumping grey water, doing dishes outside and dumping in the bush or even using an outside shower. Rules in provincial parks vary somewhat, but you still can't dump from your grey tanks (that will get you a fine or ban). Actual US BLM-style boondocking is pretty rare in Western Canada (closest in BC is Forest Service camping and even that has rules).
Ok, I give! Roe it is...you guys keep those videos coming.👍
great video very helpful
Smart idea for extra water storage. An easier way to power the pump, use the 12 VDC power from the 7-way trailer plug.
Great idea! How do you do that?
@@robinrevell5873 Get another plug, and hook a wire from pin 1 as ground, and another wire from pin 4 aux 12 v.
Nice solution... I was thinking it would be like a 55 or 30 gal barrel because they’re available in food grade plastic and at about 30” tall a low point port would give you pretty good pressure to fill the RV (at least partially) without having to use a pump
I think your current solution is superior to individual water jugs, but might I recommend that you switch to two Reliance brand water jugs, and get one of their screw in water purifiers as well? It's higher quality than the Ozark, and.. water purifier.
For anyone trying to extend their water capacity on the cheap side, commercial grade 5-7 gallon water containers are WAY more durable than these containers, AND they're stackable. That means that they are much more space efficient, and they are load bearing, so you can lay a plank on them and stack stuff on top of them. :) Also, you can knock the plug out of the plastic bung and screw a spigot in to them, or even pipe them together to make a cheap water storage tank of your own. :)
Consider using the top hose to fill. It will aerate the water better and give it a better flavor for drinking, and won't have that 'stale' water taste you get from water that's been stored for a while. Since it's in a closed (sunlight free) tank, algae shouldn't be a problem either. Speaking of algae, get a good inline filter to use EVERY time you fill that tank. I got tired of trying to figure out where the RV hose filters are actually rated at, so I opted for a brass and glass whole house particulate filter, with a drain on the bottom.
FYI you're SUPPOSED to not use brass water fittings on potable (drinking) water, because it can leach lead in to the water. Good luck finding all of those fittings in stainless, though. :P
IDEA: Mount a stock water tank (farm / ranch) float arm in your RV fresh water tank, then you can wire your secondary tank up to automatically fill your RV tank. ..I wouldn't leave the secondary pump automatically draining your truck battery, though. ;) Hmm.. you might be able to wire up the 1/2 tank indicator somehow to automatically fill the tank using a relay, then use the 3/4 tank indicator to turn it off. Kind of depends on how your indicator is wired up. I wouldn't rely on the full indicator, if you're sitting at an angle, it might overfill the tank and just dump 75 gallons of water out the tank overfill hose.
One last tip for you two, (or anyone else reading this). The Dawn foamy dish soap (don't recall the name, it's blue with a silvery label) is great for washing one-two dishes because you actually get a very tiny amount of soap, which is all you need to wash A dish. :)
ever thought about using an condenser with a filter ( a dehumidifier) to generate water? You have the solar for it
some trucks have room for an additional fuel tank, Could you use that space to add a water tank?
That's a thought I've never had before. You probably could but with it being under the truck there's a lot more to consider than it being safe and relatively clean covered by the camper shell.
@@FateUnbound just something to think about. Looking to remove the dining area in out trailer also.
What about in the winter, just curious how that works out, thanks.
Great video guys!
Definitely should think about insulating the tank in the truck bed
Hey love the videos, keep'm coming! We stay at the RV parks, but I just bought the same style tank you did. One thing I did is to use the 7 pin trailer plug on the truck to save the trouble of the jumpers. I have the trailer batteries in a battery box and the strap is impossible to undo.
Type hour shower into TH-cam‘s search bar. Most of my grey water use is showering and washing. This system is easy to build and looks like it would work well for my use.
As for tips for consumption of fresh water, this requires some re-engineering of the shower, but can offer much longer showers, assuming sufficient solar/battery power for the water pump. Be sure to use a high quality, energy efficient water pump,,, they are probably pricey, but it is important for this project to work very well. It's a recirculating the shower water. This requires two different shower drain systems, and maybe two different shower heads. The existing standard drain, that into the gray water system, and the other system, is for re-circulation.
Already warmed water, is much easier to keep warm, so after the first min or so, the hot water energy involved is much lower, and total water consumption per shower, is dropped to the minimum. The normal gray water system is for the first part of the shower, dirty soapy cleansing. Then after a short spartan cleaning, and you and the shower are rinsed off, then use the re-circulation system so there's no real water usage after that point.
Imagine taking 10 and 20 minuet showers in the RV while boon-docking! Even half hour showers are OK if you have enough solar/battery. You only loose the first part of the shower, plus maybe two cups of water, and half of that is soaked up into the towel after showering.
I would change out that water in the new re-circulation tank every so often, like once or twice a year. It doesn't need to be a large tank, but this requires a lot of changes and engineering a new gray water system. I love the idea of no water loss after the cleaning stage is done, and then relax like in a sauna or hot tub.
Best wishes! Love your videos! ;)
Make sure your tank is WELL secured to the frame. If you stand on the brakes (or hit something) you're going to have 1200 pounds of weight heading straight into the cab.
its only a 75 gallon tank so not that much weight and it is at the front of the bed so there is no room for it to move forward. good point about securing it that should be done for any heavy item that could move.
Do you add disinfectant to the storage tank water? Bacteria grows fast.
1.5 teaspoons of 8.25 %, or 2 tsp of 6% bleach would give 2PPM chlorine for 75 Gal. That would keep you safe, even in warm weather, without adding taste. Below 2ppm isn't noticable, and by the time the trailer tank needed refilling it would be well below that threshold.
The only thing thats missing is a basic filter to protect your pump , yea city water has things in it , i have been using a "whole" house basic filter before my rv gets filled when i flushed my water tank the very first time i was surprised at how much "stuff" was in the tank.
Looks like Davids arm is back to full use he's using it quite well in the instructions presentation. 👏
He doesn't have full use of his right shoulder yet, but is healing very nicely. I still have to help with a lot of heavy lifting but his range of motion is almost back to normal as long as he moves it slowly.
-Roe
Fate Unbound that's great news I felt so bad for y'all! Continued success and blessings.
With filters that allow safely drinking pond water it would be better to setup a filter system to clean and reuse the gray water. keep fresh water for drinking and cooking filter and reuse gray water for sowers and laundry
Roe it is. Great to see you have more water these days...I remember awhile ago when you were running short of water quite often. bill in Florida
That’s a nice water supply setup!
Jenny, we love you! Roe is an OK name, but I feel like I have gotten to know and love Jenny all these years. I miss Jenny! (Can we vote on it, lol?)
Haha sorry, but it's not a voting matter 👍
-Roe