What i love about Zealand is that he doesn't just give a good tactic like other TH-camrs. He teaches you about the game and HOW to understand it better
Then you have lollujo who seemingly doesn’t understand half of the options available to a player and ignores many things yet still wins plenty. So who is right?
I'd take any RDF video over this. The whole teach a man to fish thing doesn't apply here. I'm not trying to feed my family I'm trying to enjoy a game watching "number go up". Tell me how to "number go up" without it becoming a lecture on how to increase my skills or whatever.
the best instruction we can give to your team is, right when you giving talk to players in dressing room, click opposition and see if their wingers are the foot for cross( right wing, right foot best foot) on wing or other foot to cut inside (right wing, best foot left), then give team instructions on out of possession, if the wingers are to cross you put stop cross, if they wingers that cut inside to shoot, you put force opponent team play out side.
@@FanofAslan check both play stop cross and play outside, tell one CB to mark man to man the opponent striker. while you give the winger room to play you pressing him to stop cross.
There can never be enough, Trequartistas, Liberos, Raumdeuters, Enganches, Carrileros, Registas, Mezzalas, False 9s, Wide Target Forwards, Anchors, Inverted Full Backs and Segundo Volantes.
If you're a beginner to FM tactics building, I suggest a basic 4-4-2 with minimum instructions that aim to keep the ball and work it into the box! Regroup when you lose the ball and counter when you win it back. Pass into space, high line and press, stay on your feet! Simple! I am a sucker for 4-4-2 and I blame that on me being nearly 60-years old, as that was the default tactic when I grew up and played the game. So pick a tactic you've played in!
I didn't use 4-4-2 since like 2012. But I see your point. I remember the that the diamond 4-4-2 (or some resemblance of it) was the way to go. Like Arsenal or my Czech Rep in the golden era around the Euro 2004. Aaah... the memories 🤩😆
It's best to do a mid block or low block, and allow your players to decide whether to stay on feet or get stuck in With this you'll be strong defensively and dangerous while attacking
@@Patrik38cz I mostly use a 4-4-2 narrow diamond. I may switch it to a 5-3-2 if I want to be more defensive. I basically have been using is since FM21 (when I started playing) partly because my local team uses it, and partly because I hate wingers (more like I don't use them properly). I've found that FM24 has gotten how I want my 4-4-2 diamond to work done better, than other FM's I've played prior. My #10 at the tip of the diamond has 20 goals so far this season (6'3" with great jumping reach and heading as a SS) and both of my starting strikers are in double digits.
@@philipolujuyitan2248 My 4-4-2 tactics tells my team to get behind the ball and quickly press as high up the pitch as possible (before the opposition can play it forward). It doesn't work all the time, but I tend to do rags to riches saves and it's great in the lower leagues and I get good results with a constantly changing semi-pro squad (I'm currently SC Thamesmead in a new level 10 save). It's good in cup games too. Appreciate your comment 👍🏻
One thing I do and some may find it a bit crazy but during my most competitive pre season match, I’ll watch the full match to get a better understanding of how my tactic is working in action. Tends to really work for me because I can see gaps in areas of the field and areas where my players may be isolated in possession.
100% agree one of the most important things to do is to understand how does the attributes relate to the tactic instructions and the tactical playstyle you have. Most of the time all teams will need three tactics, one with more defensive emphasis for those tough matches were you are expected to lose. A balance one against teams similar to yours. An attacking one for when you are the superior team. Also bc board and supporters might favor one type of football playing style sort of forcing you one way.
I just try to make a compromise between what is possible to do and what isn't possible to do with a certain irl tactic. Take Inzaghi's Inter for example: it's impossible to fully recreate their fluid tactics, like for example making mezzalas or midfielders in general come back to the defense line with the cbs moving up to midfield and all those fluid movements between players. However, I tried to focus more on the player's movements in general when certain players are in certain spaces (for example the wide cbs attacking the half spaces or the deep-lying striker dropping into midfield) and I kid you not it is the best tactic I've ever created (and the most close to the irl one too). You won't ever be able to fully recreate any irl tactic because an engine won't ever support all these kinds of inputs at the same time: therefore, at least for me, you should be focusing on which movements players have to do when they are in certain positions of the pitch. At least, that is how it worked for me.
@@Poussyeater-w5e FORMATION: 5-3-2 (it's obviously a 3-5-2 but this is how fm describes this formation) ROLES: - *Sommer* = SK on support + short passages - *Acerbi* = CB on cover (you can put it also as an L on defense but I prefer this more) - both *Bastoni* and *Pavard* = WCB on attack + take more risks - *Chalanoglu* = RGA - *Barella* = CM on support + roam from position and take more risks - *Mkhitaryan* = MEZ on support - *Dimarco* = CWB on support + take more risks - *Dumfries* = WB on attack - *Lautaro* (on the right) = DLF on support + roam from position and stay wider - *Thuram* (on the left) = CF on attack TACTICAL STYLE: control possession MENTALITY: positive IN POSSESSION: - *attacking width* = wide - *approach play* = pass into space + play out of defence - *passing directness* = much shorter - *tempo* = shorter - *final third* = low crosses + work ball into box - *dribbling* = dribble less IN TRANSITION: - *when possession has been lost* = counter-press - *when possession has been won* = counter - *distribute to area/player* = distribute to centerbacks - *distribution type* = kick it short OUT OF POSSESSION: - *defensive shape* = high press line of engagement + high defensive line - *trigger press* = much more often - *tackling* = get stuck in - *defensive line* = step up more - *pressing trap* = trap outside - *cross engagement* = invite crosses
@@n3kuzya I always find it fascinating when typically defensive formations are used in more proactive, attacking systems. How has it performed in the competitions? Could you also share some impressive results you got?
@@Poussyeater-w5e it's difficult to talk about it without actually showing some goals the team has scored, but it's fair to say I scored some beautiful goals in which many movements of the Inter team were actually done almost as perfect as irl (like I got a goal in which Dimarco had the ball, then Bastoni attacked the half space dragging a defender, Mkhytarian dropped into the space vacated, played a first pass into Bastoni who was free in the half space who then made a cut-back for Thuram: this is a common set of movements in Inzaghi's Inter, but very difficult to actually replicate). I also got some impressive results like a 7-0 victory against Lazio, a 7-3 victory against Cagliari (2 of the 3 goals were unfortunately scored by the common "high line" bug: that is when the opponent's gk just throw an high ball at the striker and all your defenders practically just don't get it without any reason) and a 8-0 victory against Genoa. The x/g in some games were really extraordinary: for example I got like 4.5x/g against Lazio and also a 6x/g game against Genoa. But it's fair to say I did never get a game in which there was less than 1.5x/g at least. Possession was goated (like 64/65% and just because some teams in the serie A actually have an insanely high possession rate like Lazio and Monza), did almost 18/19 shots per game (which I think is a lot for serie A standards) and got like 4/5 shots per game. But again, I tried it with Inter, so it may be a bit worse with worse teams. Also, I think you must have good players in order for the tactic to actually work. I didn't try it on worse teams, but it's fair to say the players must have good on-the-ball abilities as well as good defensive abilities and focus throughout the whole 90 minutes.
I made my first one recently and it’s a 5-1-3-1 direct counter attack where I just tell my team to smash it long and hope for the best (kinda route 1😅) It’s working as well just won Ligue 1 with Metz and finished 6th in the current seasons champions league phase. all an average of 38% possession in the league
It really shocks me how little, people use the squad planner. im awful at keeping track of what positions people can play so just using it as a depth measurer is really helpful. it’s often how I figure out when my squad needs more beef or more quality
Youve got to have the sweeper keeper on attack, 2 ball playing defenders, inverted wing backs, a dlp on defend (dm), 2 roaming playmakers (cm), 2 AP's on the wings and a deep lying forward
I've messed around with other tactics, but a fairly standard 4-3-3 always seems to work best for me. Like a proper 4-3-3, not one of these 4-5-1's that cosplays as a 4-3-3. A big target man up front in the middle, flanked by pacey advanced forwards either side of him. A BBM in the middle of midfield flanked by playmakers either side. Wing backs on support, with a couple of reliable centre backs. In the first few seasons of the game while I am still building my team and coming up against better sides I will make some tweaks here and there, but it remains largely the same. In the Champions league when up against world class wingers I will sometimes switch to inverted wing backs on defence, crowd the central defensive area, force them to the outside, and rely on tall centre backs to deal with the crosses. Then hit on the counter with those pacey advanced forwards and knock downs from going long to the target man.
Haven't played Football manager since like over 10 years ago, but am tempted to put the manager's suit back on once again.. game has advanced a lot since i last plaed :)
@zealand very informative video for a new player. I've been wanting to build a tactic around having super strong midfielders. I think you've helped explain the 3 basic tactics i can build and what to look for in my wingers and fullbacks. You should make a few more targeted, shorter videos about tactics you've had success with, what player types you need to pull them off and what not. Thanks again!
My 3 tactics are a balanced 4-3-3 pressing off the ball and control posession on it, a 4-2-4 for when I am desperate for a goal and finally a dark arts tactic bus is parked and time wasting on full with 2 dm's and 1 box to box with the 3 up top which caught out leicester on the counter in my last game. I'm in the playoffs with Bristol City with 7 games to go in my first season atm.
Why is it not recommended to have both a mezzala and an inside forward on the same side of the pitch? To my understanding, in this combination, mezzala will make overlapping runs acting almost as a wing-back in possession. I currently use this combination and it works wonders for me. The only thing to mention is that it's worth considering playing your full-back in a defensive role in that situation - so you don't have two players making the same runs in the attack. Inverted full-back/wing-back or simply a full-back-on support works great.
Sweeper(su) | Wing Backs (su), Bpd (de) - if suitable players / CD(de) | BWM(de) | CM(at), DLP(su) | Inside Fwds (at), Advanced Fwd(at). I try to play faster and longer passes for my AF to be able to get behind the defenders and not drop deeper for the ball. Wing backs provide width while my IFs cut inside for Robben/Salah like shooting opportunities. High press, prevent GK. I tend to prefer fastest players for transfer options.
I’ve always tried being unique, so recently I used a 5-1-3-1 with inverted wing backs who formed the midfield and it worked so well. Dominated the J1 league and the HANA K league 1 with Yokohama mariners and jennoam dragons respectively and I think it is insane
I usually start building a tactic from looking at my first choice goalkeeper. That usually determines a lot. Poor aerial reach? Likely play a higher line. Poor one on one's? Park the bus
do you set tactics with specific roles and then see what players fit those roles based on attributes regardless if it may not be their best role or do you set your players roles based on the players best role according the the maximum role star rating. Also when buying players do you pay attention to star rating or do you compare a targets attributes to the position you are trying to improve
Im a man utd fan . but for years I literally just watched Arsenal invincible vid and just applied what the vid said to the tactic . an d for years I always had an insanely op tactic . especially when you could choose to be fluid . i might go back and try that again .
I both agree and disagree on the whole low block thing. I have a 3-4-3 that when attacking evolves into a 2-3-5, but once we loose the ball and they have luck playing out of our initial counter-press, we go back in a low block and become a 5-4-1, which waits for the opponent to enter our half and then we swarm them in a press like wasps. It works amazingly well. Scores a hell of a lot of goals and is extremely defensively solid. It's a great tactic. However where i agree is that it's not something i would recommend for a new player to try to emulate. You have to know what you are doing to make something like that work. A new player is better of trying to make a simple 4-3-3 or 4-2-3-1 gegenpress. It's always a really good tactic and it's probably two of the easiest tactics to make.
Will a carrilero get in the way of an inside forward? I worry that if I use box to box he will run into the same space as the IF but I believe carrilero will just hang outside the box near the edge.
I almost always play a 4-3-3 with a half back and attacking CWB or IWB depending on whether I want to underlap or overlap in a particular match. The IWB seems to work better when pressing and maintaining the ball in possession though, so that is my go to. The half back with two ball playing defenders plus the keeper makes keeping the ball absolute cake.
This year I'm playing a tactic.That start now as a 424 in defence.But when we're in attack ends up as a 226. It uses an inverted fall back on the left with one Central defender on cover.Who stays back as our defending power. Then we have a libero on support, And a wing back on attack. So when we attack the liberal moves up into being more of a defensive midfielder, And our wing back goes shooting up the pitch. In the midfield I have a defensive midfielder on ball winning midfiand another defensive Midfielder set to segundo, So when on attack he goes shooting up the field and libero fills in his spot. Upfront we have advanced play maker on the left, Inside forward on the right, And right now. The world's greatest strike partnership with a combined sixty goals this season, One is an advanced forward.One is a pressing forward. I play this system because I wanted to play Total football But you can't do that in fm. I use a whole bunch of individual instructions on the players to make them do what I want to do and end up on the pic where I want them to end up. We play mostly out of defence with it.Set to then go out onto the wings, work into the box With low crosses. And if you're wondering yes it's a gegenpress tactic.
For me all i need is quick wingbacks to overlap and cross , and a fast box to box cm , supported by a defensive minded deep lying playmaker , and a all out attacking cm , never ever failed me, no matter the sfyle of play. Edit Pressing forward is also key to my play
And also make sure the player instructions and the player traits are not clashing together, it affect the what they do on that position most times…. I drop guidelines and tactics stuff also on this my channel game addict, you can easily download the tactics in the description of each videos if you have issues with creating tactics ur self
A couple weeks ago I had no idea what FM was. I happened upon your channel after watching a Wrexham video. Fast forward to now and I’ve watch most of your FM videos and have installed the 20 league database and am in the middle of a cockfosters to the prem run. You sir are a modern day super villain.
The Squad report completed with the coach with the best judge of CA. Does Tactical Knowledge make a difference here? Logically, you would think it would, but you didn't mention it. I usually go with that when starting with a new team, as I don't know the players.
Would someone be able to give me some advice pls. I just bought fm24 on ps5, I’m a couple weeks into the actual season and yet some features such as recruitment are still locked for me. Is my save just bugged and should I just start a new save? Very confused rn
My way of building tactic is different i build it around how i want to play usually based around a irl style of play then play games while tweaking it to make it more like how they play irl for example my Liverpool tactic I've found that trent wasn't inverting as much as i wanted him to so i moved the dm to a ldm & moved my rcm to rcam & trent inverts way more then he used to he got almost 30 assists as a result
Can you please do a video going in depth about every position and where they go on attack and defence please,I’m useless and can’t find anything working
Z, can you explain the main diference between IF and IW? Thanks for the upload! Been doing a save with Tottenham and I've getting better I think. Love ur content
They both start from a wide position, but I think IF's will try to cut inside BEFORE recieving the ball, and IW's will cut inside AFTER recieving the ball. I think you can expect more crosses from IW's, and more chances on goal from IF's. If the player is a world class finisher I like to play them as IF, and if they are better crossers I play them as IW. I usually play one IF on one side, and either IW or W on the other side 😊
I want to see a test where a team with 1 passing centre backs play with a high block pressing ball playing defender style works out and then do it again with 20 passing and see how much changes
You say here that having a WBR and an AMR with no overlap instructions will cause conflict. But haven't you said in the past that the over/underlap instructions are unnecessary because players will automatically look to do that anyway? Something which will surely take care of itself even more with the positional play in FM24.
I just want to play the game so bad. I had luck one save making a good tactic and club but i just cant play it anywhere else and its pissing me off cuz i like the game, but i also wanna play it for more then one season. I just need some proper help
Frequent hater here (not really love you Z), ngl I think you’re really behind on tactics this year. This is the best fm ever purely because of the inverted full backs, liberos, half backs, better ai positional play. And yet for a fm creator you haven’t really got wild, haven’t really done a Pep fluid back 3/4, or come out with one of those brilliant asymmetrical tactics which look insane but just tick in the engine. I guess I’m not thinking this vid but the systems from the twitch save, always pretty similar tactics. what happened to the narrow 4132 from the other year, why not use a back five or create a libero tactic in a league you’ll be farming in a few months regardless? Don’t get me wrong everyone should play how they want to but again, for a fm creator I have seen little evidence that you can get IFBs working for a whole season. Love the content, love the new news channel, love the twitch vods, have seen very little development tactically since release
I found that analyzing your squad and building a tactic that fits your team is just Step 1. You still have to play the game. And when you play, you’ll see the flaws in your tactics and adapt accordingly. I also recommend playing on Comprehensive Highlights once in a while. Just to see how each player's role and instructions work together.
man u dumping on my style, using low block with my newly promoted team? The more pressure I invite the more space I can exploit for my advance forward 😅
I still get caught with my own tactics that what I THINK a player should be doing doesnt match the instructions. This has helped a little in that it explains some roles, but -for instance - if I want to play a 5-3-2 does "dribble more" mean my wide cb is going to blindly run into the attacker ot as I want when pressure is off move forward into midfield with the ball and then look for the right pass.
"My brother's a very good Football Manager player and he's used the same tactic for, like, seven years and he never changes it no matter what's going on in the match. And he wins a lot of stuff." So this video's a waste of time....
I am a simple man, I see thumbs up next to a tactic, I select that tactic.
Real
lollujo vibes
I am a dirty man, I see "broken" written in tactic's name, I select that tactic.
Ne lazi glupe amere hahaha
@@lakisssa 🔔🔚
What i love about Zealand is that he doesn't just give a good tactic like other TH-camrs. He teaches you about the game and HOW to understand it better
Then you have lollujo who seemingly doesn’t understand half of the options available to a player and ignores many things yet still wins plenty. So who is right?
Fr he's the best FM TH-camr
I'd take any RDF video over this. The whole teach a man to fish thing doesn't apply here. I'm not trying to feed my family I'm trying to enjoy a game watching "number go up". Tell me how to "number go up" without it becoming a lecture on how to increase my skills or whatever.
@@Mebsuta The title is how to make it from scratch. Not how to copy a tactic. If you want plug & play, you clicked the wrong video lol
the best instruction we can give to your team is, right when you giving talk to players in dressing room, click opposition and see if their wingers are the foot for cross( right wing, right foot best foot) on wing or other foot to cut inside (right wing, best foot left), then give team instructions on out of possession, if the wingers are to cross you put stop cross, if they wingers that cut inside to shoot, you put force opponent team play out side.
What do you do to Team Instructions when 1 opposition winger cuts inside and the other goes down the wing to cross the ball?
@@FanofAslan check both play stop cross and play outside, tell one CB to mark man to man the opponent striker.
while you give the winger room to play you pressing him to stop cross.
There can never be enough Trequartistas, Liberos or Raundeuters.
Don't forget Regista's, Mezalla's and Volantes 🤙🏻
Can’t forget the mezallas
There can never be enough, Trequartistas, Liberos, Raumdeuters, Enganches, Carrileros, Registas, Mezzalas, False 9s, Wide Target Forwards, Anchors, Inverted Full Backs
and Segundo Volantes.
If you're a beginner to FM tactics building, I suggest a basic 4-4-2 with minimum instructions that aim to keep the ball and work it into the box! Regroup when you lose the ball and counter when you win it back. Pass into space, high line and press, stay on your feet! Simple!
I am a sucker for 4-4-2 and I blame that on me being nearly 60-years old, as that was the default tactic when I grew up and played the game. So pick a tactic you've played in!
I didn't use 4-4-2 since like 2012. But I see your point. I remember the that the diamond 4-4-2 (or some resemblance of it) was the way to go. Like Arsenal or my Czech Rep in the golden era around the Euro 2004. Aaah... the memories 🤩😆
If your players regroup after losing possession then a high line press is contradicting
It's best to do a mid block or low block, and allow your players to decide whether to stay on feet or get stuck in
With this you'll be strong defensively and dangerous while attacking
@@Patrik38cz I mostly use a 4-4-2 narrow diamond. I may switch it to a 5-3-2 if I want to be more defensive. I basically have been using is since FM21 (when I started playing) partly because my local team uses it, and partly because I hate wingers (more like I don't use them properly). I've found that FM24 has gotten how I want my 4-4-2 diamond to work done better, than other FM's I've played prior. My #10 at the tip of the diamond has 20 goals so far this season (6'3" with great jumping reach and heading as a SS) and both of my starting strikers are in double digits.
@@philipolujuyitan2248 My 4-4-2 tactics tells my team to get behind the ball and quickly press as high up the pitch as possible (before the opposition can play it forward). It doesn't work all the time, but I tend to do rags to riches saves and it's great in the lower leagues and I get good results with a constantly changing semi-pro squad (I'm currently SC Thamesmead in a new level 10 save). It's good in cup games too.
Appreciate your comment 👍🏻
One thing I do and some may find it a bit crazy but during my most competitive pre season match, I’ll watch the full match to get a better understanding of how my tactic is working in action. Tends to really work for me because I can see gaps in areas of the field and areas where my players may be isolated in possession.
Fuck I must be even crazier for watching all of them for that reason
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Cheers Zealand, this information was more important than the revision I should be doing
100% agree one of the most important things to do is to understand how does the attributes relate to the tactic instructions and the tactical playstyle you have.
Most of the time all teams will need three tactics, one with more defensive emphasis for those tough matches were you are expected to lose.
A balance one against teams similar to yours.
An attacking one for when you are the superior team.
Also bc board and supporters might favor one type of football playing style sort of forcing you one way.
Awesome video. Now please drop your tactic in the description so I can copy it
I want to know his brother’s core tactic
I just try to make a compromise between what is possible to do and what isn't possible to do with a certain irl tactic. Take Inzaghi's Inter for example: it's impossible to fully recreate their fluid tactics, like for example making mezzalas or midfielders in general come back to the defense line with the cbs moving up to midfield and all those fluid movements between players. However, I tried to focus more on the player's movements in general when certain players are in certain spaces (for example the wide cbs attacking the half spaces or the deep-lying striker dropping into midfield) and I kid you not it is the best tactic I've ever created (and the most close to the irl one too). You won't ever be able to fully recreate any irl tactic because an engine won't ever support all these kinds of inputs at the same time: therefore, at least for me, you should be focusing on which movements players have to do when they are in certain positions of the pitch. At least, that is how it worked for me.
Can you share your formation and what instructions you use?
@@Poussyeater-w5e
FORMATION: 5-3-2 (it's obviously a 3-5-2
but this is how fm describes this formation)
ROLES:
- *Sommer* = SK on support + short passages
- *Acerbi* = CB on cover (you can put it also as an L on defense but I prefer this more)
- both *Bastoni* and *Pavard* = WCB on attack + take more risks
- *Chalanoglu* = RGA
- *Barella* = CM on support + roam from position and take more risks
- *Mkhitaryan* = MEZ on support
- *Dimarco* = CWB on support + take more risks
- *Dumfries* = WB on attack
- *Lautaro* (on the right) = DLF on support + roam from position and stay wider
- *Thuram* (on the left) = CF on attack
TACTICAL STYLE: control possession
MENTALITY: positive
IN POSSESSION:
- *attacking width* = wide
- *approach play* = pass into space + play out of defence
- *passing directness* = much shorter
- *tempo* = shorter
- *final third* = low crosses + work ball into box
- *dribbling* = dribble less
IN TRANSITION:
- *when possession has been lost* = counter-press
- *when possession has been won* = counter
- *distribute to area/player* = distribute to centerbacks
- *distribution type* = kick it short
OUT OF POSSESSION:
- *defensive shape* = high press line of engagement + high defensive line
- *trigger press* = much more often
- *tackling* = get stuck in
- *defensive line* = step up more
- *pressing trap* = trap outside
- *cross engagement* = invite crosses
@@n3kuzya I always find it fascinating when typically defensive formations are used in more proactive, attacking systems. How has it performed in the competitions? Could you also share some impressive results you got?
@@Poussyeater-w5e it's difficult to talk about it without actually showing some goals the team has scored, but it's fair to say I scored some beautiful goals in which many movements of the Inter team were actually done almost as perfect as irl (like I got a goal in which Dimarco had the ball, then Bastoni attacked the half space dragging a defender, Mkhytarian dropped into the space vacated, played a first pass into Bastoni who was free in the half space who then made a cut-back for Thuram: this is a common set of movements in Inzaghi's Inter, but very difficult to actually replicate). I also got some impressive results like a 7-0 victory against Lazio, a 7-3 victory against Cagliari (2 of the 3 goals were unfortunately scored by the common "high line" bug: that is when the opponent's gk just throw an high ball at the striker and all your defenders practically just don't get it without any reason) and a 8-0 victory against Genoa. The x/g in some games were really extraordinary: for example I got like 4.5x/g against Lazio and also a 6x/g game against Genoa. But it's fair to say I did never get a game in which there was less than 1.5x/g at least. Possession was goated (like 64/65% and just because some teams in the serie A actually have an insanely high possession rate like Lazio and Monza), did almost 18/19 shots per game (which I think is a lot for serie A standards) and got like 4/5 shots per game. But again, I tried it with Inter, so it may be a bit worse with worse teams. Also, I think you must have good players in order for the tactic to actually work. I didn't try it on worse teams, but it's fair to say the players must have good on-the-ball abilities as well as good defensive abilities and focus throughout the whole 90 minutes.
I made my first one recently and it’s a 5-1-3-1 direct counter attack where I just tell my team to smash it long and hope for the best (kinda route 1😅)
It’s working as well just won Ligue 1 with Metz and finished 6th in the current seasons champions league phase. all an average of 38% possession in the league
It really shocks me how little, people use the squad planner. im awful at keeping track of what positions people can play so just using it as a depth measurer is really helpful. it’s often how I figure out when my squad needs more beef or more quality
I've actually come to really appreciate the squad planner, and use it all the time.
I am a simple man, I made 1 tactic and use it for every save
I personally do the ten Hag master class: in attack 3-1-6 and in defense 5-0-5.
😂😂😂
Well, that's a formation lacking shape, so it's an ation.
Youve got to have the sweeper keeper on attack, 2 ball playing defenders, inverted wing backs, a dlp on defend (dm), 2 roaming playmakers (cm), 2 AP's on the wings and a deep lying forward
That's 11 playmakers, volleyballing the puck softly next to the goalposts.
I've messed around with other tactics, but a fairly standard 4-3-3 always seems to work best for me. Like a proper 4-3-3, not one of these 4-5-1's that cosplays as a 4-3-3.
A big target man up front in the middle, flanked by pacey advanced forwards either side of him. A BBM in the middle of midfield flanked by playmakers either side. Wing backs on support, with a couple of reliable centre backs.
In the first few seasons of the game while I am still building my team and coming up against better sides I will make some tweaks here and there, but it remains largely the same. In the Champions league when up against world class wingers I will sometimes switch to inverted wing backs on defence, crowd the central defensive area, force them to the outside, and rely on tall centre backs to deal with the crosses. Then hit on the counter with those pacey advanced forwards and knock downs from going long to the target man.
If you have too many Raumdeuters, False 9s and Trequartistas you're likely in a Pepsi advert from the Aughts..
Haven't played Football manager since like over 10 years ago, but am tempted to put the manager's suit back on once again.. game has advanced a lot since i last plaed :)
@zealand very informative video for a new player. I've been wanting to build a tactic around having super strong midfielders. I think you've helped explain the 3 basic tactics i can build and what to look for in my wingers and fullbacks. You should make a few more targeted, shorter videos about tactics you've had success with, what player types you need to pull them off and what not. Thanks again!
now we need your brother to do a breakdown of his tactic
I sometimes struggle making tactics and this helped a lot. Thanks for breaking down things step by step
Thanks z I hate copying and pasting tactics from yt but struggle making consistent tactics this helps a lot
I always create a tactic around the players I have , because if a player can't play a target forward etc then there isn't A point
My 3 tactics are a balanced 4-3-3 pressing off the ball and control posession on it, a 4-2-4 for when I am desperate for a goal and finally a dark arts tactic bus is parked and time wasting on full with 2 dm's and 1 box to box with the 3 up top which caught out leicester on the counter in my last game.
I'm in the playoffs with Bristol City with 7 games to go in my first season atm.
Why is it not recommended to have both a mezzala and an inside forward on the same side of the pitch? To my understanding, in this combination, mezzala will make overlapping runs acting almost as a wing-back in possession. I currently use this combination and it works wonders for me. The only thing to mention is that it's worth considering playing your full-back in a defensive role in that situation - so you don't have two players making the same runs in the attack. Inverted full-back/wing-back or simply a full-back-on support works great.
Sweeper(su) | Wing Backs (su), Bpd (de) - if suitable players / CD(de) | BWM(de) | CM(at), DLP(su) | Inside Fwds (at), Advanced Fwd(at). I try to play faster and longer passes for my AF to be able to get behind the defenders and not drop deeper for the ball. Wing backs provide width while my IFs cut inside for Robben/Salah like shooting opportunities. High press, prevent GK. I tend to prefer fastest players for transfer options.
That frog toy at the back is really having a zesty look at Zealand 😹😹😹
I’ve always tried being unique, so recently I used a 5-1-3-1 with inverted wing backs who formed the midfield and it worked so well. Dominated the J1 league and the HANA K league 1 with Yokohama mariners and jennoam dragons respectively and I think it is insane
I usually start building a tactic from looking at my first choice goalkeeper. That usually determines a lot. Poor aerial reach? Likely play a higher line. Poor one on one's? Park the bus
do you set tactics with specific roles and then see what players fit those roles based on attributes regardless if it may not be their best role or do you set your players roles based on the players best role according the the maximum role star rating. Also when buying players do you pay attention to star rating or do you compare a targets attributes to the position you are trying to improve
ps5 fm doesn’t have the analysis, another thing added to the list of the console versions don’t have on fm
Im a man utd fan . but for years I literally just watched Arsenal invincible vid and just applied what the vid said to the tactic . an d for years I always had an insanely op tactic . especially when you could choose to be fluid . i might go back and try that again .
I both agree and disagree on the whole low block thing. I have a 3-4-3 that when attacking evolves into a 2-3-5, but once we loose the ball and they have luck playing out of our initial counter-press, we go back in a low block and become a 5-4-1, which waits for the opponent to enter our half and then we swarm them in a press like wasps. It works amazingly well. Scores a hell of a lot of goals and is extremely defensively solid. It's a great tactic. However where i agree is that it's not something i would recommend for a new player to try to emulate. You have to know what you are doing to make something like that work. A new player is better of trying to make a simple 4-3-3 or 4-2-3-1 gegenpress. It's always a really good tactic and it's probably two of the easiest tactics to make.
your player names pronounciation is always on point
I play a 4-2-4 with Leicester and for some reason it's working really good I'm 2nd in the prem in my second year in Leicester
I watch Zealand videos, even though I never played Football Manager 😢
Will a carrilero get in the way of an inside forward? I worry that if I use box to box he will run into the same space as the IF but I believe carrilero will just hang outside the box near the edge.
I almost always play a 4-3-3 with a half back and attacking CWB or IWB depending on whether I want to underlap or overlap in a particular match. The IWB seems to work better when pressing and maintaining the ball in possession though, so that is my go to.
The half back with two ball playing defenders plus the keeper makes keeping the ball absolute cake.
I use something similar to this. Get a really good tall and athletic HB and he'll work wonders.
This year I'm playing a tactic.That start now as a 424 in defence.But when we're in attack ends up as a 226.
It uses an inverted fall back on the left with one Central defender on cover.Who stays back as our defending power.
Then we have a libero on support, And a wing back on attack. So when we attack the liberal moves up into being more of a defensive midfielder, And our wing back goes shooting up the pitch.
In the midfield I have a defensive midfielder on ball winning midfiand another defensive Midfielder set to segundo, So when on attack he goes shooting up the field and libero fills in his spot.
Upfront we have advanced play maker on the left, Inside forward on the right, And right now.
The world's greatest strike partnership with a combined sixty goals this season, One is an advanced forward.One is a pressing forward.
I play this system because I wanted to play Total football But you can't do that in fm. I use a whole bunch of individual instructions on the players to make them do what I want to do and end up on the pic where I want them to end up.
We play mostly out of defence with it.Set to then go out onto the wings, work into the box With low crosses.
And if you're wondering yes it's a gegenpress tactic.
For me all i need is quick wingbacks to overlap and cross , and a fast box to box cm , supported by a defensive minded deep lying playmaker , and a all out attacking cm , never ever failed me, no matter the sfyle of play. Edit Pressing forward is also key to my play
There's no ''Best XI'' option for me on my Bournemouth save, any idea how to find it?
And also make sure the player instructions and the player traits are not clashing together, it affect the what they do on that position most times…. I drop guidelines and tactics stuff also on this my channel game addict, you can easily download the tactics in the description of each videos if you have issues with creating tactics ur self
A couple weeks ago I had no idea what FM was. I happened upon your channel after watching a Wrexham video. Fast forward to now and I’ve watch most of your FM videos and have installed the 20 league database and am in the middle of a cockfosters to the prem run. You sir are a modern day super villain.
A Totally related question to your video, maybe ... If the 'at his best' Eric Cantona was in FM, what would his stats be ?
The Squad report completed with the coach with the best judge of CA.
Does Tactical Knowledge make a difference here?
Logically, you would think it would, but you didn't mention it.
I usually go with that when starting with a new team, as I don't know the players.
Would someone be able to give me some advice pls. I just bought fm24 on ps5, I’m a couple weeks into the actual season and yet some features such as recruitment are still locked for me. Is my save just bugged and should I just start a new save? Very confused rn
My way of building tactic is different i build it around how i want to play usually based around a irl style of play then play games while tweaking it to make it more like how they play irl for example my Liverpool tactic I've found that trent wasn't inverting as much as i wanted him to so i moved the dm to a ldm & moved my rcm to rcam & trent inverts way more then he used to he got almost 30 assists as a result
Zealand in a Revs kit? Let's GOOO
Can you please do a video going in depth about every position and where they go on attack and defence please,I’m useless and can’t find anything working
Z, can you explain the main diference between IF and IW?
Thanks for the upload! Been doing a save with Tottenham and I've getting better I think. Love ur content
They both start from a wide position, but I think IF's will try to cut inside BEFORE recieving the ball, and IW's will cut inside AFTER recieving the ball. I think you can expect more crosses from IW's, and more chances on goal from IF's. If the player is a world class finisher I like to play them as IF, and if they are better crossers I play them as IW. I usually play one IF on one side, and either IW or W on the other side 😊
2:46 how do you get to this screen ? I searched, but i can't find it !
still need help?
@@cechu6418 nah it's ok i figured it out, thanks !
Currently doing a no-league to legend around the world glory hunter save , so I've ended up creating my own tactics.
That anse caralinin mention made me so nostalgic
I want to see a test where a team with 1 passing centre backs play with a high block pressing ball playing defender style works out and then do it again with 20 passing and see how much changes
I always make my own not necessarily like odd shaped things that work but I never copy tactics takes it away from the game and the achievement
You say here that having a WBR and an AMR with no overlap instructions will cause conflict. But haven't you said in the past that the over/underlap instructions are unnecessary because players will automatically look to do that anyway? Something which will surely take care of itself even more with the positional play in FM24.
Do you guys think fm is worth it on console? I think of switching to it due to ea’s consistent bs, but I’ve heard that it’s not that good on console
i loved this video. have helped me alot even tho ive played since 2015 haha
I just want to play the game so bad. I had luck one save making a good tactic and club but i just cant play it anywhere else and its pissing me off cuz i like the game, but i also wanna play it for more then one season. I just need some proper help
Frequent hater here (not really love you Z), ngl I think you’re really behind on tactics this year. This is the best fm ever purely because of the inverted full backs, liberos, half backs, better ai positional play. And yet for a fm creator you haven’t really got wild, haven’t really done a Pep fluid back 3/4, or come out with one of those brilliant asymmetrical tactics which look insane but just tick in the engine.
I guess I’m not thinking this vid but the systems from the twitch save, always pretty similar tactics. what happened to the narrow 4132 from the other year, why not use a back five or create a libero tactic in a league you’ll be farming in a few months regardless? Don’t get me wrong everyone should play how they want to but again, for a fm creator I have seen little evidence that you can get IFBs working for a whole season.
Love the content, love the new news channel, love the twitch vods, have seen very little development tactically since release
2:13 - why the hell guy called Mazurkiewicz is listed as German 0_O??
I really want that frog! Where did you get him lol
3-2-3-2 - Wing backs for the win!
Where can i get some of you're tactics?
Why can't I find the centre midfielder, Belarmino Seca? 😅
He was a newgen in the game unfortunately
@@ZealandonYT Oh my god it's Mr Sigma himself
i like to try zeelands Brothers Tactic he alweys use
You can either buy players for your tactic, or build tactic for your players.
Still the best at this Zee 👍
HELP I CAN JUST CHOOSE A FEW LEAGUES TO PLAY AND THE PLAYERS IN THEM ARENT REAL AND I DONT WHY
Since I've gone more structured, I've become very boring and staid but we're winning way more. Fluidity can kma.
I found that analyzing your squad and building a tactic that fits your team is just Step 1.
You still have to play the game. And when you play, you’ll see the flaws in your tactics and adapt accordingly.
I also recommend playing on Comprehensive Highlights once in a while.
Just to see how each player's role and instructions work together.
FREEDOOOOOOOOMMMMMM!!!!!! FOUR FOUR FROGGING TWO!!!!
How would you go about this when you're dominating a very bad league and trying to win the Champions League?
4:40 Finnish?
I was literally looking up videos on this the last 2 days. Get out of my head Zealand.
i'm using the 4222 now in my save
Marco Rose 4222 is insane
Watch full match
Fantastic video
man u dumping on my style, using low block with my newly promoted team? The more pressure I invite the more space I can exploit for my advance forward 😅
damn i just stared playing fm. ive bit off more than i can chew.
Thank you sir
I still get caught with my own tactics that what I THINK a player should be doing doesnt match the instructions.
This has helped a little in that it explains some roles, but -for instance - if I want to play a 5-3-2 does "dribble more" mean my wide cb is going to blindly run into the attacker ot as I want when pressure is off move forward into midfield with the ball and then look for the right pass.
KENNETH BRANAGH HAMLET MENTIONNED
Odd enough xbox doesn't have a analysis button
I use squad planner
Ansi Karulainen BINGO
More z splains please
There sadly isn't too much choice in this iteration. You either click Gegenpress and your tactic is good, or you don't and it isn't.
Not when you're doing Sunday league! Long live Brexitball!
Wait. I use squad planner.
4 4 fucking 2
"My brother's a very good Football Manager player and he's used the same tactic for, like, seven years and he never changes it no matter what's going on in the match. And he wins a lot of stuff."
So this video's a waste of time....
3 Views in 50 seconds, Zealand is on the up
I dont have analysis because i am ps 5 Edition
I just downloads tactics because tactics are mostly a scam in this game
learning from the crypto expert himself 🙌
fuckin foot it
I think you over complicated this. You evolve your tactic over time. Your player don't need to be perfect on the role.
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