Kylo's mission is to destroy sand, Anikin did not like sand, the people who lived on Jakku, where murdered because they love sand. Kylo dropped Ray off at on Jakku so she would hate sand and join him, to destroy all sand. That's why the deathstar 3.0 blew up the star system, because there was sand it it.
Rey is the daughter of of those emperor guards that wore the red velvet drapes. They were in love, you guys. When Palpatine barked at them, "Guards! Leave us!", the pair of them walked out shoulder to shoulder, rode the elevator down to the floor where practically everything else was also draped in red velvet, and created Rey. Red velvet.
"I don't know who among you is watching that last fight scene where he's stumbling drunkenly around, dripping with sweat, punching himself, and saying to yourself 'this looks like a man who's satisfied with the direction his life is going!'"
Watching Jenny's old Star Wars videos is my way of coping with The Rise of Skywalker... Is like travelling back in time, to when things meant things...
I'm fully prepared to buy a good camera but I don't know anything about cameras and don't want to sink money on the wrong one. I asked for recs on twitter but I only got like three responses
I have a Canon Rebel T3i and it takes decent video and good pictures. It's not ridiculously expensive but still a decent chunk of money. I don't think they sell it anymore, but any of the Rebels are pretty good and affordable.
How many people saying "buy a better camera, bitch!" do you think have adblockers on, denying her possible revenue with which to supplement her channel by, for example, buying a better camera? Probably a lot. But I'm with you. I like the way it looks. It's her aesthetic, now, I think. She should get an even lower grade camera just to troll the stupid ones.
When it comes to questions like "Who is Snoke?" and "Who are Rey's parents?" I'm not convinced that the writers of Episode 7 knew it when creating the movie.
Is like Patrick H Williams said "in all his previous projects, J.J. Abrahams just wrote the mysteries and other people came up with the solutions years later"
I mean, sure, we'd forgive him killing a few random people, because he's hot, but Han Solo! You think enough of the audience would be OK with redeeming the murderer of Han Solo?
Episode IX Predictions: Kylo Ren picks up an evil Luke Skywalker and throws him down a shaft to save Rey. Kylo then dies because Luke was pretty heavy.
He just turned to light side. Not only dark side users are bad people. Light side also produced quite amount of emotionless robots. It's not like redemption is about killing bad Emperor who up to that point was that person ally and that person did a lot of bad shit in the Emperor's name. Vader wasn't good or anything. He died bad guy, who hasn't been brought to justice. Kinda like Fidel Castro. The whole idea of Vader's redeption is just product of old non-canon UE and nerds with their overinterpretation of movies.
The36th What? Dude, Vader's redemption is something they teach you in film schools as to what a character arc is. By killing the emperor and saving his son he saved the whole galaxy, at the end he saw the wrong of his ways, that is shown in his death scene. The definition of redemption is the action of saving or being saved from sin, error, or evil. If that isn't redemption I' don't what is.
This is why most talented people never been in "film schools". Also SW didn't end with RoTJ so You waffling about "saving galaxy" would be true somewhere before the release of first teaser for TFA :)
His story ends but storyline of entire universe doesn't, so my argument is still valid. If They teach that Vader sacrifice saved galaxy, then they either didn't see TFA or they are idiots and people who goes there to gain some knowledge are even more retarded than "professors" :) Btw. I'm not "anti-elitist". I'm very much "elitist". I just don't consider most humanist subjects(like cinematography) to be elite-ish. Those subjects are full of are batshit crazy lefty marxists who will drag Europe/North America into USSR-like hellhole. Hard science is "elitist". Or maybe some particular humanists who operates on real data like historians who operate on real old documents or economists who operate on real economic indicators. We were making paintings, writing stuff down and act in performances long before the Left established public education system full of unnecessary and money-wasting courses.
Here we are with hindsight. People LIKE the heck out of Jenny's video, which they should, because Jenny understands story-telling. Movie comes out and some fans pitch an absolute fit that their crappy ideas, which they even criticized before they saw the movie, don't happen in the movie. Jenny is right that TLJ basically outed any fan that does not understand how story-telling works.
@@tomlangford1999, Idk, I'm hoping she's over 18 at the time of this video, I feel a little uncomfortable, but her talking about something silly reminds me of a time when women were fun to be around, and not just hostile vicious misandrist initimate terrorists (too much?) That's 20th century talk! Yeah I know... Either way, if you consider JJ Abrams is the destroyer of all our legacy male western culture, icons and myths (which is basic communism, btw), (add Star Trek at least), then he understands, if anything his complete destruction of the skywalker legacy (having a teenage boy in drag, aka Rey Jesus) in the end of the SW franchise this last Christmas, he knew EXACTLY how to best damage the legacy male's psyche. You think not? Literally, over 40 years of movies, snuffed out completely as superfluous: evil wins. Btw, given Rey Jesus killed the emperor, he does go into Rey Jesus' body. I don't see any way around that. If you look carefully at Rey Jesus' eyes, there was a top to bottom twinkle, which I took as the "soul transfer" or whatever jj thinks the new and improved force can do everything take on it...
We didn't care about those kids. Fuck those kids. But he killed a seventy year old criminal we've all liked for 40 years. Burn Him! And kill those kids again just to hammer home how little we care about those kids.
@@rockyseverino9230 Seventy year old criminal? That's what you're going with? Hero of the galaxy and the murderer's father? Those facts don't seem, maybe just a tad more relevant than his age and his past profession? Also, he was a criminal in the _Empire._ Some people consider the Empire to be a bad thing.
That last one was actually really well thought out, and as someone who thinks Kylo Ren is a piece of shit that people need to stop fangirling over, you actually got me to seriously consider the possibility of his redemption. This is why I like your videos: obviously they can be silly and funny and all that, but they're pretty insightful as well. Get well soon!
This. She has a good mind for storytelling. Just look at her video on Suicide Squad as well. I think to me that this sense is just lacking so much in the Star Wars fan community. I can't help but think those who grew up on the prequels were ruined in this aspect.
wow finally someone who thinks he's a piece of shit. i am not excited for these movies for the single reason that i have no interest in seeing this brat redeemed. vader was a better character, and we already saw him redeemed. AND he didn't need to kill a character beloved for over 3 decades to prove he is "bad". what a clusterfuck.
Your #1 is so on point I can't upvote this video enough. OF COURSE he is on a redemption arc. It's being telegraphed from 20 trillion light years away. THAT is why this is a "Skywalker story." It's Anakin/Vader's PT journey in reverse.
Some of her reasoning behind it doesn't hold up. She said Han lived his life all the way up until his death trusting in his son's ability to do good, yet in The Force Awakens Han himself says "We lost our son forever". Like, I agree that he can be redeemed, but she made it seem like Han was so sure he could be redeemed and that's just not true.
Han has been convinced by Leia that he is wrong. He believes, in that moment, that he CAN get his son back. And in those final moments, he touches Ben's face and starts him down his redemption arc.
who are these ppl who care so much about this sniveling brat that it would be a positive outcome for him to get redeemed? not to mention it would be the same again what with vader already being redeemed in the old movies. the audience should be cheering his downfall, not hoping for yet another redemption. what a bunch of maroons.
Lots of niche comics have made it big! My favorite was Mitch Headberg. Not to mention I'm sure her material would not be limited to Star Wars and comics.
I also love Mitch Hedberg! I wouldn't call him niche though. You need not possess any specific knowledge or interest to find him funny. He does have a distinct style... one liners and absurdist themes, but i wouldn't call it niche. But I do agree overall with you... Jenny's dry delivery and confidence would certainly lend itself to stand-up.
Jenny, loving the content. It's really great to have someone on TH-cam as frank and as simple as your setup is. I think it's great and I hope you continue with this format.
I hope I'm not too late to tell you about my fan theory. "The Rebel Alliance will still be fighting a rebellion 30 years after the Battle of Endor. The Empire gets a new name and is ran by teenage looking gingers. Also it turns out the force is pretty EZ. Also, all of the planets in Starwars orbit the same star." It's a long shot, but I have a good feeling about this.
I kind of like the home video aesthetic. If she ever builds a set I hope it's still covered in ponies. I think Jenny's next equipment purchase should be a good audio recorder, it's not uncommon for video producers to say that audio is the most important component.
Of course you are free to....this is just a thing such as etiquette and consideration that seems to be lost these days online. Such as I am the same person on the internet as in real life. I would gander that most people commenting critically on the interwebs wouldn't be as bold or critical in person.
I've always believed that Kyle was beyond redemption since he killed Han, but what you're saying does make quite a bit of sense. Rian Johnson's got his work cut out for him though; it's not easy to redeem yourself after killing one of the most iconic characters ever. But it's also not impossible...
Another great video. I really love her analysis here. It taps into what is really wrong with a lot of the Star Wars fan community, which in my opinion is that most don't have a good sense of storytelling. I don't know if this is largely from younger fans who grew up on the prequels but I see it a lot in these kinds of fan theories, fans defending the old EU sanctimoniously, and of course prequel apologists who inject SO much fan theories into those films to get them to make a lick of sense or have any emotional impact. The fact is TFA got Star Wars right, most of the motives and emotions are out there on the table. Stuff like Kylo being upset and conflicted at the end of TFA is not reading a whole lot into that character, it is all there on screen with Driver's great performance.
GeekFurious John Campea seems to enjoy people with different opinions, since he is aware that opinions are alsways subjective. And it is mostly Kristian Harloff who just cannot let go of Plagueis, but he also seems like someone that will not bash her.
Kylo wasn't punching himself because he was mad at himself. He was punch the wound to make himself more angry, and we all know what anger does to a force user... and possibly to numb the pain.
People are weird about Kylo; He was literally crying and losing his mind in that last scene. When he popped up and said, "We're not done yet", he literally looked like he was sobbing. You want to HUG the guy!
I always saw Han's death as almost willful, he knew he couldn't bring his son back with words and pleas, and was ready to face him and die, sowing doubt and regret in his son, making realize how far he's fallen. Han has pretty telling looks everytime coming face to face with his son comes up before the mission.
I agree about Kylo Ren not being a double agent. Not only for all the reasons you mention with his actions and behavior. But also because it would rob the viewers of getting to watch and experience his redemption. If it's revealed "oh wow Kylo was already good the whole time!" then we miss out on his character development. I DO think "finish what you started" will have a poetic twist later in the trilogy, but not in the way the people who think he is already good do. When Kylo Ren says "finish what you started" in TFA, he doesn't know it but that pledge is hollow. I believe Kylo Ren sincerely thinks that whatever Vader "started" is something in regards to the Darkside, claiming power, ruling, balancing the force through evil acts. something along those lines. He is choosing evil at that point, and he thinks choosing evil is what his granddad would want of him. But we in the audience know about Anakin's end of life return to the Light. At this point, I think Kylo is either unaware of Anakin's end of life conversion, or thinks it is a lie from his mother and Luke to placate him. However, eventually, on his path to redemption, he will turn away from evil, perhaps in defeating evil by defeating Snoke or perhaps by embarking on a new, balanced jedi path, a nod to Anakin's destiny of restoring balance. In some way, Kylo Ren will fulfill a positive, good-guy version of the "finish what you started" pledge, he just doesn't know it yet. That line is not ambiguous because Kylo is being ambiguous, it is ambiguous so that Kylo can discover a new meaning for it later. He hasn't discovered that yet.
Thank you for the Kylo Ren/Redemption bit. I'd go a step further and say people that think he's behind redemption are just too upset at having lost Han in VII.
Oh my I need to quote this " I don't know who among you is watching that last fight scene where he was stumbling drunkenly around, dripping with sweat and punching his self and saying to yourself this looks like a man who is satisfied with the direction his life is going.
If Kylo Ren can't be redeemed because he killed Han Solo, then explain to me why Darth Vader, someone who slaughtered 30 children, kills his employees, killed his own wife, nearly killed his own son, can get redeemed but not Kylo?
Church of the Latter Day Shrek There is no reason Kylo can't be redeemed, except that he's a conflicted, sensitive soul and the fanboys hate him. They wanted him to be Darth Maul 2.0 and instead they got the most complex and interesting SW character to date. They are still in the second stage of grief over this.
There was a time I thought I knew something about lore. You've taken it to another level that gave me a mild brain aneurysm, and now I can't talk words good. You're good at stuff. The end.
Anybody who thinks that Kylo isn't going to redeem himself is pretty foolish. The whole battle with the light is clear set-up to him encountering his mother and subsequently helping them defeat Snoke.
Hey Jenny... you know you gotta do a video about the dumbest theories about episode IX right? Especially after that teaser trailer. ... Please? 🙏🙇🏻 ... Pretty please? 🥺 ... Porg-y please? 🐥
The logic is strong, and the way you say it makes it funny. I can't believe I enjoy video this much that is literally just a monologue discussing fan theories.
Yeah! I always thought, Annakin murdered helpless children and he gets to come back as Mr. Happy Ghost? Because of one act to kill the Emperor who was going to kill his son? Or maybe because of his killing so many people in the Clone Wars, he was really good at killing there, too.
i like the idea of Kylo Ren just being a bad guy. i agree it wouldn't be cool if Rey murdered him or something but him becoming good sounds really out of character to me.
Strictly speaking, it's still possible Rey is Luke's daughter. JJ did say her parentS aren't in TFA. Her ONE parent, Luke, is. Her (most likely deceased, maybe killed by Kylo Ren) mother is not Just one way to interpret it. Whether she's Rey Solo, Rey Skywalker, or Rey Random, I hope it's a pretty good reveal Also, as for your number 1 point - I agree with you. But it's important to note that in ancient Rome, there was pretty much an exact wording that there is no specific law for patricide because it's such a horrible crime that it's unimaginable to occur. I believe this was even in JJ's mind when he went through with it. And I know it's an event that's preserved from George's treatments, from which we still don't know how much was used or not
I think Kylo Ren will be defeated by Rey in Episode VIII. She will be about to kill him and Luke or someone will tell her to resist the Dark Side and show him mercy. She will and he'll be locked up somewhere and the only person who visits him is Leia. I imagine he will spend years locked away contemplating what he has done and regretting it but never being able to forgive himself. I wouldn't even mind if he doesn't even appear in Episode IX because I feel that movie should really focus on Snoke being the main antagonist. I kind of want him to be good again but I don't want it done the same way as Darth Vader. I would however like for him to return in Episode X and be the mentor for that trilogy's hero.
I just heard an NPR story about women talking in a croaky voice to be taken more seriously. Now I can't unhear how many woman actually do this. I'm glad you said you had a cold.
also what about Finn theories? i've heard none and he was my favorite character in episode vii. John Boyega hinted that Finn would be more collected and less of a coward in the new movies so that's interesting. I guess he becomes part of the Resistance but I doubt they will like send him on missions or something. Also I hope he gets the lightsaber back even if its just like a dumb payoff where he has to help Rey or something he looked really cool with the lightsaber.
Well Lando got a little drunk at the ewok party at the end of ROTJ and met Finn's ewok mother there. There gonna show it as flashbacks in ep 8 and it's gonna be brilliant
Well Anakin gave no fucks bout trying to kill Obi-Wan in Episode 3 and gave even less fucks killing him in Episode 4. So Kylo killing Han doesn't have to be his turning point.
It'll be a bit of downer if the Skywalker line ends with Kylo Ren. Hoping there's another Solo or Skywalker roaming around the galaxy somewhere. Beginning to seriously doubt Rey is Luke's child now given that info in the latest novel seems to make that outcome less likely.
In a hundred years Ghost Jenny's gonna be really grossed out when it becomes socially encouraged to speak to your dead relatives skulls. "Grandmother. I will finish what you started." Reads Star Wars IIIVX FanFic on SpaceTH-cam.
Honestly, of all the Snoke theories, I want the Plagueis one to be true for a couple reasons: 1) The ending of the book (which is definitely still canon) wasn't solidified because we all know Plagueis didn't actually die. So I want closure, however, I will be ok with not having if it doesn't happen. 2) Plagueis created Anakin. That's pretty clear now. By that logic, Plagueis is Luke and Leia's grandfather and Ben's great grandfather. To me, and this is obviously my opinion, I feel like it would be poetic for Ben (possibly if he turns Jedi), Rey, and Luke to have to kill the sith that started this whole thing.
Redemption is overrated. One of the Themes of Buffy/Angel was that when you have done permanent damage, you don't get to take it back. You can do good over and over again but you can never unkill the people you killed.
For a person with that much and that kind of baggage, it definitely is. That doesn't mean that that person can't change and be good going forward. You just don't get to wipe the slate clean. For lesser sins, redemption is possible. (And perhaps even for small-scale murder depending on the circumstances) By the way, these are great videos (the monologues), especially your Jenny/Jenny ones. Hope to see more.
I loved your video. Even the bits that I didn't agree with were thought provoking and amusing. "Kyle Ren hitting himself and sweating... Are not the actions of a guy who is satisfied with the way his life is going"; lol brilliant line.
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Rey is the Rancor's daughter. Luke only saw that kind of raw strength once before. It didn't scare him enough then. It does now.
Kylo's mission is to destroy sand, Anikin did not like sand, the people who lived on Jakku, where murdered because they love sand. Kylo dropped Ray off at on Jakku so she would hate sand and join him, to destroy all sand.
That's why the deathstar 3.0 blew up the star system, because there was sand it it.
Exactly! and the reason Kylo tortured Poe was because he's a SAND controlling mutant!
Mind=blown
Having played minecraft at least once, I also hate sand.
Sand is clumps of dead midi-chlorians.
Ok, I totally lol'd IRL over your comment
Rey is the daughter of of those emperor guards that wore the red velvet drapes. They were in love, you guys. When Palpatine barked at them, "Guards! Leave us!", the pair of them walked out shoulder to shoulder, rode the elevator down to the floor where practically everything else was also draped in red velvet, and created Rey.
Red velvet.
Checks out.
Sounds legit.
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REEEED VVVEEEEEELVEEET
Beep.
"I don't know who among you is watching that last fight scene where he's stumbling drunkenly around, dripping with sweat, punching himself, and saying to yourself 'this looks like a man who's satisfied with the direction his life is going!'"
I think the worst theory is that Rey will be a Palpatine. Like THAT will happen 😂
You're right, she's definitely going to be called Rey Skywalker by the end.
These are some of the worst theories I've ever heard. They're better than that they've definitely planned this whole thing out.
😔
I cry everytime.
Genuinely the worst star wars film ever made. Including ewok adventures and the life day special.
"Does Snoke have a Reddit account, is that whose typing all this stuff". I think you have found the real twist.
who's*
*hooze
Joel Hassig booze*
Shoes*
ronnie ssebaggala dudes*
"Also I have a cold, I'm not just talking in a lower register so you'll take me more seriously."
Savage meta commentary
Rey is the daughter of R2D2 and C3PO, the entire story is about R2D2s journey anyway
Gavlick Apthesycerski she's obviously the daughter of Mace Windo and Lando Calrissian
Wuh oh looks like you predicted the episode 9 script where rey is a robot!
@@Flowtail There's even the incest aspect of C-3PO having the hots for their daughter, Rey😍
"Just because it happened doesn't mean it was a good idea." - The Truth
that can be said about sooooo many things.
like trump being president :p
everything that jkr has said post-canon
That describes the Rise of Skywalker pretty perfectly.
THIS AGED LIKE FINE WINE
IKR? When she said that if Kylo died, he shouldn't come back as a force ghost, I was ROLLING.
Watching Jenny's old Star Wars videos is my way of coping with The Rise of Skywalker... Is like travelling back in time, to when things meant things...
Jenny: and my stupid brain, still expecting this to somehow make sense...
Her name is Rey Scrambles, daughter to Jimmy.
Oh shit Jimmy Hopkins, the famous character from the 2006 video game Bully????
..no?
oh
right
my bad
Rey who?
The best bad guy in all star wars. He got more done off screen than palatine ever did
off topic, do you like ponies by chance?
Possibly.
My man.
Just gonna slide this in here, if anyone cares.
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She definitely saw this and ignored it because she doesn’t need the bronies to know
@@DoctorCyan Too late. Jenny's already the most horse famous person on the planet.
Don't let people camera-shame you. The video quality is perfectly charming.
I'm fully prepared to buy a good camera but I don't know anything about cameras and don't want to sink money on the wrong one. I asked for recs on twitter but I only got like three responses
I have a Canon Rebel T3i and it takes decent video and good pictures. It's not ridiculously expensive but still a decent chunk of money. I don't think they sell it anymore, but any of the Rebels are pretty good and affordable.
Read Amazon reviews?
+Jenny Nicholson so you didnt find the darth jar jar theory dumb?Good to know
How many people saying "buy a better camera, bitch!" do you think have adblockers on, denying her possible revenue with which to supplement her channel by, for example, buying a better camera? Probably a lot. But I'm with you. I like the way it looks. It's her aesthetic, now, I think. She should get an even lower grade camera just to troll the stupid ones.
When it comes to questions like "Who is Snoke?" and "Who are Rey's parents?" I'm not convinced that the writers of Episode 7 knew it when creating the movie.
Well this is 100% true, given they hadn't even settled it when they had begun filming Episode IX.
Is like Patrick H Williams said "in all his previous projects, J.J. Abrahams just wrote the mysteries and other people came up with the solutions years later"
"I feel like, people who think this...don't get how stories work." This statement is on point.
I mean, sure, we'd forgive him killing a few random people, because he's hot, but Han Solo! You think enough of the audience would be OK with redeeming the murderer of Han Solo?
Episode IX Predictions: Kylo Ren picks up an evil Luke Skywalker and throws him down a shaft to save Rey. Kylo then dies because Luke was pretty heavy.
lmao half right
😂😂😂
This would have been better than what we got.
Anakin killed children and he still got redemption, obviously Kylo can still be redeemed.
He just turned to light side. Not only dark side users are bad people. Light side also produced quite amount of emotionless robots.
It's not like redemption is about killing bad Emperor who up to that point was that person ally and that person did a lot of bad shit in the Emperor's name.
Vader wasn't good or anything. He died bad guy, who hasn't been brought to justice. Kinda like Fidel Castro.
The whole idea of Vader's redeption is just product of old non-canon UE and nerds with their overinterpretation of movies.
The36th What? Dude, Vader's redemption is something they teach you in film schools as to what a character arc is. By killing the emperor and saving his son he saved the whole galaxy, at the end he saw the wrong of his ways, that is shown in his death scene. The definition of redemption is the action of saving or being saved from sin, error, or evil. If that isn't redemption I' don't what is.
This is why most talented people never been in "film schools".
Also SW didn't end with RoTJ so You waffling about "saving galaxy" would be true somewhere before the release of first teaser for TFA :)
When Anakin dies, that's the end of his story. Arc complete. Dude, you're wrong just deal with it.
And your anti-elitist bullshit angers me.
His story ends but storyline of entire universe doesn't, so my argument is still valid. If They teach that Vader sacrifice saved galaxy, then they either didn't see TFA or they are idiots and people who goes there to gain some knowledge are even more retarded than "professors" :)
Btw. I'm not "anti-elitist". I'm very much "elitist". I just don't consider most humanist subjects(like cinematography) to be elite-ish. Those subjects are full of are batshit crazy lefty marxists who will drag Europe/North America into USSR-like hellhole.
Hard science is "elitist". Or maybe some particular humanists who operates on real data like historians who operate on real old documents or economists who operate on real economic indicators.
We were making paintings, writing stuff down and act in performances long before the Left established public education system full of unnecessary and money-wasting courses.
I don't even like ponies but that is one sick collection.
"This isn't real life, this isn't Game of Thrones, this is Star Wars." When Jenny predicts the future 1 year and a half ago.
I'm just relieved I'm not on the list!
Don't worry. You're on my list.
i lov you
Glad to know you watch these too bro haha
lol love your videos dude!!
I had to shelve my original video idea for this week to be rewritten because one of your vids debunked one of my jokes
The most gentle smackdowns, courtesy of Jenny Nicholson.
Here we are with hindsight. People LIKE the heck out of Jenny's video, which they should, because Jenny understands story-telling. Movie comes out and some fans pitch an absolute fit that their crappy ideas, which they even criticized before they saw the movie, don't happen in the movie. Jenny is right that TLJ basically outed any fan that does not understand how story-telling works.
"I don't want Rey to be anyone's daughter..." midi-chlorian baby, oh no!! :)
Nice video
She means she doesn't want her to be related to anyone important. Tbh neither do I.
Yea, I got that. My reply was an attempt at a joke :) Trying to make light of how poorly the immaculate conception of Ankin was received by fans
My bad
no worries! :)
this, is also one of the crazy theories for ep8 that she's been reborn, i.e. like jesus, or more like Neo from the matrix.
She understands Star Wars better than 95% of the people on youtube.
She understands Star Wars better than J J Abrams
@@tomlangford1999 I understand star wars better than j j abrams and I spent most of my life rolling my eyes at it with frustration and boredom
Too well in some ways. 😄
@@tomlangford1999, Idk, I'm hoping she's over 18 at the time of this video, I feel a little uncomfortable, but her talking about something silly reminds me of a time when women were fun to be around, and not just hostile vicious misandrist initimate terrorists (too much?) That's 20th century talk! Yeah I know...
Either way, if you consider JJ Abrams is the destroyer of all our legacy male western culture, icons and myths (which is basic communism, btw), (add Star Trek at least), then he understands, if anything his complete destruction of the skywalker legacy (having a teenage boy in drag, aka Rey Jesus) in the end of the SW franchise this last Christmas, he knew EXACTLY how to best damage the legacy male's psyche. You think not? Literally, over 40 years of movies, snuffed out completely as superfluous: evil wins. Btw, given Rey Jesus killed the emperor, he does go into Rey Jesus' body. I don't see any way around that.
If you look carefully at Rey Jesus' eyes, there was a top to bottom twinkle, which I took as the "soul transfer" or whatever jj thinks the new and improved force can do everything take on it...
@@jeffreyspinner9213 Lmao you're both an incel and a boomer, nice
"Kylo Ren can't be redeemed because he killed Han!"
(Meanwhile Vader slaughters children left and right).
Gotta love fan theories...
William Crow in retrospect that was a terrible idea to have him kill children.
William Crow not to mention he also killed Padme and had a small hand in Order 66
@@n2nother Isn't it always a terrible idea to have someone kill children, even before hindsight sets in?
We didn't care about those kids. Fuck those kids.
But he killed a seventy year old criminal we've all liked for 40 years.
Burn Him!
And kill those kids again just to hammer home how little we care about those kids.
@@rockyseverino9230 Seventy year old criminal? That's what you're going with? Hero of the galaxy and the murderer's father? Those facts don't seem, maybe just a tad more relevant than his age and his past profession?
Also, he was a criminal in the _Empire._ Some people consider the Empire to be a bad thing.
That last one was actually really well thought out, and as someone who thinks Kylo Ren is a piece of shit that people need to stop fangirling over, you actually got me to seriously consider the possibility of his redemption. This is why I like your videos: obviously they can be silly and funny and all that, but they're pretty insightful as well. Get well soon!
This. She has a good mind for storytelling. Just look at her video on Suicide Squad as well. I think to me that this sense is just lacking so much in the Star Wars fan community. I can't help but think those who grew up on the prequels were ruined in this aspect.
wow finally someone who thinks he's a piece of shit. i am not excited for these movies for the single reason that i have no interest in seeing this brat redeemed. vader was a better character, and we already saw him redeemed. AND he didn't need to kill a character beloved for over 3 decades to prove he is "bad". what a clusterfuck.
The constant popcorn refill references make me laugh every time.
Your #1 is so on point I can't upvote this video enough. OF COURSE he is on a redemption arc. It's being telegraphed from 20 trillion light years away. THAT is why this is a "Skywalker story." It's Anakin/Vader's PT journey in reverse.
Some of her reasoning behind it doesn't hold up. She said Han lived his life all the way up until his death trusting in his son's ability to do good, yet in The Force Awakens Han himself says "We lost our son forever". Like, I agree that he can be redeemed, but she made it seem like Han was so sure he could be redeemed and that's just not true.
Han has been convinced by Leia that he is wrong. He believes, in that moment, that he CAN get his son back. And in those final moments, he touches Ben's face and starts him down his redemption arc.
who are these ppl who care so much about this sniveling brat that it would be a positive outcome for him to get redeemed? not to mention it would be the same again what with vader already being redeemed in the old movies. the audience should be cheering his downfall, not hoping for yet another redemption. what a bunch of maroons.
"it's being telegraphed from 20 trillion space-hours* away"
FTFY
Space hours is a lot less than light years, though.
Disney NEED to hire you to protect the Star Wars franchise from derping anything up! (Great vid as ever)
Or you know like a good writer like Rian Johnson...
this comment aged well
I can’t believe you were predicting episode IX all along. Is JJ Abrams in the ranks of your viewers? Should you be getting royalties for this?
ReverieEndeavor Well when they resort to throwing shit at the wall, then half of everyone's predictions come true
6:30 "Yup. He's dead." -Rey, probably.
how r u verified
Seriously I think you would be great at stand-up.
this girl's funny. But stand-up has to be broad appeal. No one is getting a crowd full of star wars nerds/comic geeks at their stand up show.
Lots of niche comics have made it big!
My favorite was Mitch Headberg. Not to mention I'm sure her material would not be limited to Star Wars and comics.
I also love Mitch Hedberg! I wouldn't call him niche though. You need not possess any specific knowledge or interest to find him funny. He does have a distinct style... one liners and absurdist themes, but i wouldn't call it niche. But I do agree overall with you... Jenny's dry delivery and confidence would certainly lend itself to stand-up.
Lots of cons have nerdy stand-up. I could see her doing that.
Sienfeld started out with Superman jokes
My theory is that rey is the girl that filmed the hugh mungus video.
nice!
Humongous wot?
lineage2boy Humongous Finn ishurly.
Kylo telling Rey he can train her in the force was definitely a trigger
"Are you sexually harassing me?" said Rey as Finn grabbed her hand.
Well... this was confirmed (re.: an "old character" being a "new character"). The dumb thing happened.
Describing Ren's last act of self sacrifice as THE ULTIMATE FAN EXPERIENCE absolutely slew me.
"Just because it happened, doesn't mean it's a good idea"
god damn I wish I could tell this to any dudebros who whinge about the sanctity of canon
Jenny, loving the content. It's really great to have someone on TH-cam as frank and as simple as your setup is. I think it's great and I hope you continue with this format.
I like when, 6 years ago, we assumed that the sequel story makes any sense.
I don't know why but this gives me early 2000s ukulele tutorial vibes
I hope I'm not too late to tell you about my fan theory. "The Rebel Alliance will still be fighting a rebellion 30 years after the Battle of Endor. The Empire gets a new name and is ran by teenage looking gingers. Also it turns out the force is pretty EZ. Also, all of the planets in Starwars orbit the same star."
It's a long shot, but I have a good feeling about this.
There's so much grain in your videos that you could feed an entire African village.
I kind of like the home video aesthetic.
If she ever builds a set I hope it's still covered in ponies.
I think Jenny's next equipment purchase should be a good audio recorder, it's not uncommon for video producers to say that audio is the most important component.
***** would have*
Is that a complaint? About free entertaining content..........Or just funnies?
You're absolutely allowed to criticize free content anyway.
Of course you are free to....this is just a thing such as etiquette and consideration that seems to be lost these days online. Such as I am the same person on the internet as in real life. I would gander that most people commenting critically on the interwebs wouldn't be as bold or critical in person.
Crazy theory "Jenny Nicholson" is a real human being.
I've always believed that Kyle was beyond redemption since he killed Han, but what you're saying does make quite a bit of sense. Rian Johnson's got his work cut out for him though; it's not easy to redeem yourself after killing one of the most iconic characters ever. But it's also not impossible...
Kylo didn't go to the gravesite. A bounty hunter retrieved the helmet. It's a neat story actually.
I'm picturing Hux saying this over a glass of wine
Figures that Hux's nom de guerre is some made-up sounding Star Wars-y name like Saniel Dingleton.
HYPERMATTER CAN'T MELT DURASTEEL. THE HELMET IS A LIE
Where did you hear that? I had not seen that story yet.
Blake Segafredo Delilah S. Dawson‘s short story The Perfect Weapon, published in November as one of those “Journey to The Force Awakens” tie-ins.
Am I the only one that's going to address how many my little ponies she has?...
Yes, I believe you are.
she wins on content and brand marketing strategy
That would only stick out if she was a fat bearded man. So yeah.
Clearly, you haven't seen the videos where she bathes them Lol
+fran13r They're called 'Bronies'!
Killing Han Solo is irredeemable! killing toddlers? That's a-ok, step right up to the light
Jar jar is the key to all of this...
Rey's father is Lone Starr!
Her father is Starlord
Another great video. I really love her analysis here. It taps into what is really wrong with a lot of the Star Wars fan community, which in my opinion is that most don't have a good sense of storytelling. I don't know if this is largely from younger fans who grew up on the prequels but I see it a lot in these kinds of fan theories, fans defending the old EU sanctimoniously, and of course prequel apologists who inject SO much fan theories into those films to get them to make a lick of sense or have any emotional impact. The fact is TFA got Star Wars right, most of the motives and emotions are out there on the table. Stuff like Kylo being upset and conflicted at the end of TFA is not reading a whole lot into that character, it is all there on screen with Driver's great performance.
you remind me so much of Lilly from 'The Princess Diaries' ^-^
"There is even a second group of even DUMBER people...", my god this is funny because of your awesome deadpan delivery AND because it's true.
The guys at Collider Movie Talk/Jedi Council love you!
Rightfully so!
Jenny, the folks at Collider Jedi Council love your previous vid(Rey meeting Luke), and would like you to be a guest on the show.
Are they going to love her after this since they are part of the problem when it comes to some of these theories?
GeekFurious John Campea seems to enjoy people with different opinions, since he is aware that opinions are alsways subjective. And it is mostly Kristian Harloff who just cannot let go of Plagueis, but he also seems like someone that will not bash her.
which episode did they talk about her?
Kylo wasn't punching himself because he was mad at himself. He was punch the wound to make himself more angry, and we all know what anger does to a force user... and possibly to numb the pain.
People are weird about Kylo; He was literally crying and losing his mind in that last scene. When he popped up and said, "We're not done yet", he literally looked like he was sobbing. You want to HUG the guy!
I always saw Han's death as almost willful, he knew he couldn't bring his son back with words and pleas, and was ready to face him and die, sowing doubt and regret in his son, making realize how far he's fallen.
Han has pretty telling looks everytime coming face to face with his son comes up before the mission.
This really foreshadows the Bronycon video.
I agree about Kylo Ren not being a double agent. Not only for all the reasons you mention with his actions and behavior. But also because it would rob the viewers of getting to watch and experience his redemption. If it's revealed "oh wow Kylo was already good the whole time!" then we miss out on his character development.
I DO think "finish what you started" will have a poetic twist later in the trilogy, but not in the way the people who think he is already good do.
When Kylo Ren says "finish what you started" in TFA, he doesn't know it but that pledge is hollow. I believe Kylo Ren sincerely thinks that whatever Vader "started" is something in regards to the Darkside, claiming power, ruling, balancing the force through evil acts. something along those lines. He is choosing evil at that point, and he thinks choosing evil is what his granddad would want of him.
But we in the audience know about Anakin's end of life return to the Light. At this point, I think Kylo is either unaware of Anakin's end of life conversion, or thinks it is a lie from his mother and Luke to placate him.
However, eventually, on his path to redemption, he will turn away from evil, perhaps in defeating evil by defeating Snoke or perhaps by embarking on a new, balanced jedi path, a nod to Anakin's destiny of restoring balance. In some way, Kylo Ren will fulfill a positive, good-guy version of the "finish what you started" pledge, he just doesn't know it yet.
That line is not ambiguous because Kylo is being ambiguous, it is ambiguous so that Kylo can discover a new meaning for it later. He hasn't discovered that yet.
The video quality isn't the best, but the audio is basically perfect, and most people would prefer that than the reverse.
Get on Twitter!
Thank you for the Kylo Ren/Redemption bit. I'd go a step further and say people that think he's behind redemption are just too upset at having lost Han in VII.
This footage is grainier than the sand Anakin hates so much. Good thoughts though.
I loved the video, but I was mesmerized by how your hair changed after every cut. It was pretty entertaining.
"fun family movie adventure" *thinks about Han Solo's death*
Oh my I need to quote this " I don't know who among you is watching that last fight scene where he was stumbling drunkenly around, dripping with sweat and punching his self and saying to yourself this looks like a man who is satisfied with the direction his life is going.
If Kylo Ren can't be redeemed because he killed Han Solo, then explain to me why Darth Vader, someone who slaughtered 30 children, kills his employees, killed his own wife, nearly killed his own son, can get redeemed but not Kylo?
Because he died five minutes later, that's why
Church of the Latter Day Shrek There is no reason Kylo can't be redeemed, except that he's a conflicted, sensitive soul and the fanboys hate him. They wanted him to be Darth Maul 2.0 and instead they got the most complex and interesting SW character to date. They are still in the second stage of grief over this.
There was a time I thought I knew something about lore. You've taken it to another level that gave me a mild brain aneurysm, and now I can't talk words good. You're good at stuff. The end.
Anybody who thinks that Kylo isn't going to redeem himself is pretty foolish. The whole battle with the light is clear set-up to him encountering his mother and subsequently helping them defeat Snoke.
I will forever love her quips about the AMC popcorn.
I'm at work now so I can't devote any attention, but I know as soon as I watch this I'll love it. Gonna thumb up in advance!
I love that I'm finding these 7 years later. Absolutely gold
Hey Jenny... you know you gotta do a video about the dumbest theories about episode IX right? Especially after that teaser trailer.
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Please? 🙏🙇🏻
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Pretty please? 🥺
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Porg-y please? 🐥
I'm not sure how many comments are about the description about the video but this is becoming one of my favorite subscriptions
BB-8-ASMR plz
That would be BB-Gr8.
+Ayy lmao I r8 8BB8s out of 8
+Ayy lmao
Why not "That would BB-Gr8"? You already had the B.
that joke was too BB-L8
+Gremlyn That would have been better.
The logic is strong, and the way you say it makes it funny. I can't believe I enjoy video this much that is literally just a monologue discussing fan theories.
This camera gives the clip that That Poppy charme. The 5 billion ponys make it kinda creepy.
Yeah! I always thought, Annakin murdered helpless children and he gets to come back as Mr. Happy Ghost? Because of one act to kill the Emperor who was going to kill his son? Or maybe because of his killing so many people in the Clone Wars, he was really good at killing there, too.
i like the idea of Kylo Ren just being a bad guy. i agree it wouldn't be cool if Rey murdered him or something but him becoming good sounds really out of character to me.
Strictly speaking, it's still possible Rey is Luke's daughter. JJ did say her parentS aren't in TFA. Her ONE parent, Luke, is. Her (most likely deceased, maybe killed by Kylo Ren) mother is not
Just one way to interpret it. Whether she's Rey Solo, Rey Skywalker, or Rey Random, I hope it's a pretty good reveal
Also, as for your number 1 point - I agree with you. But it's important to note that in ancient Rome, there was pretty much an exact wording that there is no specific law for patricide because it's such a horrible crime that it's unimaginable to occur. I believe this was even in JJ's mind when he went through with it. And I know it's an event that's preserved from George's treatments, from which we still don't know how much was used or not
Okay, you've won me over. Bloody hilarious. Subscribed!
I think Kylo Ren will be defeated by Rey in Episode VIII. She will be about to kill him and Luke or someone will tell her to resist the Dark Side and show him mercy. She will and he'll be locked up somewhere and the only person who visits him is Leia. I imagine he will spend years locked away contemplating what he has done and regretting it but never being able to forgive himself. I wouldn't even mind if he doesn't even appear in Episode IX because I feel that movie should really focus on Snoke being the main antagonist. I kind of want him to be good again but I don't want it done the same way as Darth Vader. I would however like for him to return in Episode X and be the mentor for that trilogy's hero.
Please make as many Star Wars videos as you want!
I've never commented on TH-cam before.
You are doing fine
I just heard an NPR story about women talking in a croaky voice to be taken more seriously. Now I can't unhear how many woman actually do this. I'm glad you said you had a cold.
I tots enjoyed these 8 mins and agree 100%. Also, the force ghost thing needed to be said.
The style of this video is beautiful! Ponies in the background, fashion, and the faded look of the video.
also what about Finn theories? i've heard none and he was my favorite character in episode vii. John Boyega hinted that Finn would be more collected and less of a coward in the new movies so that's interesting. I guess he becomes part of the Resistance but I doubt they will like send him on missions or something. Also I hope he gets the lightsaber back even if its just like a dumb payoff where he has to help Rey or something he looked really cool with the lightsaber.
Well Lando got a little drunk at the ewok party at the end of ROTJ and met Finn's ewok mother there. There gonna show it as flashbacks in ep 8 and it's gonna be brilliant
Edward Brink call me satisfied
"We're all buddies as ghosts" glad I stuck around for that one
Snoke DEFINITELY has a Reddit account.
Palpatine: I set up that account, apparently
Aw man, a calm huge nerd of Star Wars, what a rare sight :D Congratulations with your channel, calmness really does pay off !
Well Anakin gave no fucks bout trying to kill Obi-Wan in Episode 3 and gave even less fucks killing him in Episode 4. So Kylo killing Han doesn't have to be his turning point.
Episode 4* not 6.
"...this is Star Wars - a fun, family space adventure."
It'll be a bit of downer if the Skywalker line ends with Kylo Ren. Hoping there's another Solo or Skywalker roaming around the galaxy somewhere. Beginning to seriously doubt Rey is Luke's child now given that info in the latest novel seems to make that outcome less likely.
I'm glad I saw your "If Rey is a Skywalker video" a while ago. I'll subscribe, and go back and watch your older videos when I get time. Fun channel!
Keep your camera.
It's kinda part of her style now, isn't it?
Its the reason this channel reminds me of the golden days of TH-cam
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"This looks like a man who is satisfied with the direction his life is going." Time to start selling bumper stickers.
No, you're wrong, J.J. Abrams is just like Rumpelstiltskin.
In a hundred years Ghost Jenny's gonna be really grossed out when it becomes socially encouraged to speak to your dead relatives skulls.
"Grandmother. I will finish what you started."
Reads Star Wars IIIVX FanFic on SpaceTH-cam.
Why does this look like it was filmed in 2008
Honestly, of all the Snoke theories, I want the Plagueis one to be true for a couple reasons:
1) The ending of the book (which is definitely still canon) wasn't solidified because we all know Plagueis didn't actually die. So I want closure, however, I will be ok with not having if it doesn't happen.
2) Plagueis created Anakin. That's pretty clear now. By that logic, Plagueis is Luke and Leia's grandfather and Ben's great grandfather. To me, and this is obviously my opinion, I feel like it would be poetic for Ben (possibly if he turns Jedi), Rey, and Luke to have to kill the sith that started this whole thing.
Redemption is overrated. One of the Themes of Buffy/Angel was that when you have done permanent damage, you don't get to take it back. You can do good over and over again but you can never unkill the people you killed.
Chaos Corner I guess if we decide semantically that redemption means unkilling the dead, it is impossible
For a person with that much and that kind of baggage, it definitely is. That doesn't mean that that person can't change and be good going forward. You just don't get to wipe the slate clean. For lesser sins, redemption is possible. (And perhaps even for small-scale murder depending on the circumstances)
By the way, these are great videos (the monologues), especially your Jenny/Jenny ones. Hope to see more.
I feel like we're forgetting about time wizards and necromancers here.
Superhulk Gaming Apparently so.
Well said.
I loved your video. Even the bits that I didn't agree with were thought provoking and amusing. "Kyle Ren hitting himself and sweating... Are not the actions of a guy who is satisfied with the way his life is going"; lol brilliant line.