I think Follow Me being not all at once works *if* all the mini games have a period of time between them. Instead of taking all the characters’ remnant at once and then going back later for Spring Bonnie, he takes the remnant of one animatronic, goes back, does whatever experiments with it, and then concludes he needs more and goes back to the pizzeria. That fits the mad scientist angle they’ve been trying to give William and it plays up his hubris; he kept going back because he was convinced he *could.*
I’ve never understood why people think it happens all in one night. We got a new mini game *every night* that how I’ve always interpreted it. Also, those suits are ooold and probably rusty, it’ll take a few hours to dismantle them
Also, a reason for the spirits still being at freddy's and not with their endo's is because I think as much as they are connected to the endos theyre connected to the establishment and location of their death. Like in every horror show its a common trope to have the ghost's spirit not only come out of the bed they died in but be chained to the house as well, only heing able to roam and haunt the establishment of their death. Like it makes sense honestly. They loved freddys and going there probably was a staple of their memories. Both the weapon and the location are important and are what anchors a spirit
The game's trailer even implies it. The child says, "he always comes back". The implication here being that he kept returning even before he died. That he didn't simply leave them alone.
@@RyeToast*Yo I was watching your old vids and I realized isn't there a ending in ruin when Greg betrayed us? And looking at that couldn't the Security breach ending with Vanny finding Greg be true?*
My take from this video is that we need to check EVERY SINGLE INCH of a FNaF game's assets to get all the lore. That furnace has been in Help Wanted for a couple *years* now, and only recently are we looking closer at it.
13:50 this is a half baked theory that is just based off an idea that popped into my brain, so excuse any mistakes and just use it to fuel your own theories... We only see endos in HW, and not their casings. Could it be possible that Afton simply took the endos but left the casings scattered in each mini game. So he grabs one Endo each night, dumping them all in the furnace we see in HW FOR his experiments. He doesn't get to melt them down himself because he returned for Golden Freddy and the final mini game happens. Could explain why he returns, why the endos in the furnace have yet to be melted, and why Golden Freddy isn't in the furnace
That’s a good theory, but that still leaves the question of how the melted remnant from the endos got into the funtimes without Afton. Plus if he did just leave the furnace on, wouldn’t that just end up just destroying the remnant? Though I do agree with the fact that he left the casings and possibly went back for golden Freddy. After all the Casings can’t be the possessed parts of the robots as then the toy parts lying in the box in Fnaf 3, or the empty Fnaf 1 cases would all also be haunted. So the spirit is at least most likely only tied to the endo.
13:38 If you need a descent explanation for why the souls appear in 2 places at once under MoltenMCI, look no further than the discarded shells of the robots. The endos are melted down and injected, but the shells are still there. In The Fourth Closet, the souls of the kids are broken into pieces and these pieces look like gray faded versions of themselves, like how we see the ghosts in Follow Me
The game is called FIVE NIGHTS at Freddies. What if those mini games are just William's five nights. Going to get animatronic endos is NOT easy, even for William, if he screws up he gets "jump scared" which means he dies. Just like the game mechanics he has his own "rules" he has to meticulously follow to get through the nights safely and even though he's competent, one mistake will cause his doom. That's why it takes multiple days for him to get all the remnant. The final night is just him going back for the bonnie suit where he THOUGHT it might be an easy night since there are no animatronics left, but he gets surprised by the ghosts. A BRAND NEW threat that never appeared before and didn't know how to handle and did the wrong thing and died for it (like dying to Nightmare Freddy in Fnaf 4 or something). Think about it, these hauntings don't just effect the main character. What if they effect nearly anyone closely involved, like a Taxi driver whose route is near Freddies? The movie showed a lot of people dying and a lot of people "dealing" with the animatronics, people who you'd think wouldn't be related. William is obviously related, hence why he has to deal with the animatronics as meticulously as we do in game, so it taking multiple nights makes a LOT of sense to me. Hell, remember PHONE GUY also had to deal with 5 nights, and even as a veteran who survived before he dies when he messes up once. I think this franchise is just a story where everyone has to deal with their own versions of Five Nights and whether they live or die or become a remnant zombie just comes down to their luck and skill at handling these animatronics/hauntings in general. Edit: Thinking about how Vanessa got stabbed. That was William's "jump scare" because she didn't handle him well. That's why she needs to do the things she needs to do, because her father is a murderer and if she messes up she gets punished like a player in game gets jump scared.
There was a bunch of evidence for this even before this as well, such as Candy Cadet’s stories about five things becoming one, and this exact thing literally happening in The Fourth Closet, but yeah
i love how meta and conscious you are about the wording theorists use when making claims. it helps to validate and keep claims in context and avoid a train of creators trying to "out-clickbait" each other.
I think there's another explaination for FNAF3's spirits in the last minigame. We see in the 4th Closet that the children get transferred along with remnant but not entriely AND that not all of the pieces are sentient instead appearing like pages of a book or drawings. The root spirit doesn't seem be entirely bound with the animatronic either. The movie also seems to confirm this with the children being able to make contact with Abbie even before the events at Freddy's kicks off. For whatever reason the spirits are anchored to Freddy's and the animatronics but not bound within them. Afton had remove the endoskeletons but not the suits which also contain animatronic parts and metal. This is why the heads are shown in the endings, the spirits were still anchored to the heads partially. With no body to manipulate they simply just showed up as spirits. And they may have also gained control over themselves, for example they could pass the boundary into the backroom they couldn't when controlling the animatronics. Also, for Afton showing up there multiple times. It seems he did each minigame over the course of a night. It's why the trailer gave us the first utterance of Afton's tagline: he always comes back.
I don't think the furnace is being used as timeline evidence, but rather the asset is a clue pointing to the molten MCI theory. In other words, it's not trying to show an order of events, just alluding to the idea that the endos were melted down for remnant. In fact, Ennard being present in the minigame makes the evidence stronger, as if the developers are saying what happened in the furnace becomes this creature.
In the books,Susie controls Funtime Foxy after the original animatronics were fused into the amalgamation and then a part of that got into Funtime Foxy. Perhaps there's a step or two in the middle as opposed to going straight from the originals to the Funtimes?
Oh wow, I always thought the Ennard minigame ended weirdly with the endoskeletons burning, but I never thought to check how many were in there! Plus the fact that it happens in ENNARD'd minigame out of any that reference CBEAR feels pretty definitive to me that that's how Ennard/Molten Freddy started
"Help Wanted PROVES Molten MCI??" Why does EVERYBODY in the fandom forget the Insanity Ending speech?? Henry practically screams it to the player in that monologue, I just. _Schematic, white lines on a blue background, shown on a computer screen. It’s labeled “S.calable C.reation of U.lterior P.resence,” or SCUP. It’s the scooper from Sister Location. There are four sections labeled. A: Excavating Arm (The cup of the scooper). B: Remnant Injector (The middle of the cup), with a section beneath it reading “NOTES: Leave trace line amount on interior. Over-usage/Over-exposure negates effect.” C: Arm Base and Balance (A pair of overlapping circles behind the scooper arm). D: Remnant Reservoir (A container attached to the base) with a section beneath it reading “NOTES: When heated, no observable motion. Keep in heated tank at sustained temperature. Substance should be malleable, but not more. There is a possibility that overheating might neutralize the effects permanently.” _ [Tape man] “It’s only now that I understand the depth of the depravity of this…creature, this monster, that I unwillingly helped to create. As if what he had already done wasn’t enough, he found a new way to desecrate, to humiliate, to destroy.” [Tape man, cont] “As if the suffering wasn’t enough, the loss of innocence, the loss of everything to so many people, small souls trapped in prisons of my making, now set to new purpose. And used in ways I never thought imaginable.” [Tape man, cont.] “He lured them all back, back to a familiar place, back with familiar tricks. He brought them all together. Are they still. Aware? I hope not. It keeps me awake at night. I could make myself…sleep, but not yet.” [Tape man, cont.] “Not until I undo what he has done, and heal this wound. A wound first inflicted on me, but then one that I let bleed out, to cause all of this. He set some kind of trap, I don’t know what it was, but he led them there, again. He overpowered them, again. And he robbed them of the only thing that they had, again. I dont know how those tiny breaths of life came to inhabit those machines, but they will never find rest now, not like this. I have to call them all back, all of them, together, in one place. [beep as transmission ends]" *Tell me with a straight face that Molten MCI wasn't confirmed back in Pizzeria Simulator.*
I find the idea that the endoskeletons of the animatronics were used.. odd, to say the least, because you can *clearly* see parts of the endoskeletons in the museum of Rockstar Row in Security Breach. Help Wanted was always a game that contradicted past as well as future FNAF lore.
Interesting thing I thought of when you mentioned animalistic tendencies in the Funtime animatronics. In the original fnaf the animatronics behave like their real life counterparts. Bonnie and Chica both behave like a bunny and chicken would, roaming around the different areas, occasionally looking at the player, but roaming until they reach what they’ve been searching for, the player. Foxy stares at you, waiting for a time where they can make their attack much like a fox would do to their pray waiting for a pounce. Freddy is a slow but sneaky character making his presence known with sound, but being not easy to spot. When the player stares at him he stops moving, just like how a bear would if you spotted it, until it can be right in front of the prey with nothing they can do to stop it, just like how Freddy behaves in the office, you can’t stop him before it’s too late unless you are absolutely prepared. Idk maybe I’m just generalizing and all animals behave similarly but it makes sense to me ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I forget I'm an outlier with my vast knowledge of obscure FNAF theory crafting until I was surprised that the MoltenMCI needed to be explained at this point.
I don't see why all the Follow Me minigames would happen close together except for the last one, which is why I think they all have a period of time between them. Maybe William only has space in his car to store 1, so he does a separate trip for each animatronic, last one just being to retrieve the Spring Bonnie suit again. As for the spirits being able to attack William, yeah I don't know. It is the biggest flaw with MoltenMCI for now.
Rye I just gotta tell you how much I love your attitude. The love the fact that you don't take shit from rude and belligerent people, stand up for those in need and unapologetically just be yourself. Much respect and thanks for using your platform for good. Didn't know where else to say this but thanks!
I've come up with a theory called candymci. Long story short, after the animatronics were destroyed by William, Henry or some fazbear employee took the parts and built candy cadet who has the souls inside him. If you need evidence, leave a reply and I'll give a lot of evidence for my theory. Here's the evidence, in fnaf 6, he only tells story's releated to 5 things becoming one. In ruin and help wanted 2, He tells different story's. Now you might think this doesn't work because he is not required for the true ending in fnaf 6 but he appears in ruin and help wanted 2. So this theory can work.
My crazy theory is what if there aren't ghost possessing the animatronics or any remnant. That's just the story that the owner of the Pizzaplex want's people to focus on, instead of the truth of what actually happened. The mimic existed way earlier than what we know and the endo animatronics were given the mimic code. Hence why they attack people. Jist like how Edwin attacked it.
I think MoltenMCI can happen without FuntimeMCI. Think about it, how much mass is left of Ennard after everything happened? It must have lost mass to form itself since it's not 4 times as big as the avarage Funtime animatronic, then lost more mass when entering Michael because there is no way all of that is fitting on him, then lost even more mass after Baby left it, so it should be pathetically tiny right? And yet when we see what is left in Molten Freddy in PizzaSim, it's big, gigantic even, looks much bigger than Ennard was. So how did it get all this mass? Easy, it scavanged for metal parts, and did it for years, specially metal with remnant or agony. Why? Because that is how Molten Freddy got the MCI remnant, he went to the only place where it would be, in Fazbear Frights, after Michael set fire on it. That explains why Molten Freddy is specifically "Molten" but not Ennard or Scrap Baby, he got molten metal from the MCI from the FF fire. And the HW finding of this week helps it, because when the endos are in the furnace, Ennard is already formed, so I think it's hinting that the MCI endos burned *AFTER* Ennard formed, not before. And the only place the MCI endos would be and would burn after Ennard is already formed is the FF location. And we know from the Blob/Tangle that "metal spaghetti" is FNAF's shorthand for "this thing is made of a bunch of metal parts".
I like this. Idk enough to add or debate but I love the idea that molten freddy isnt molten cause it was in the fire but instead its molten cause it uses burned parts.
So there you have it, if the Funtimes don't have souls, then why do they act weird? How would Molten Freddy be able to move around without having a soul in the first place??
@@fredlueplaystudios2325 They are murder bots made by William for the sake of his remnant research and usage, I would say the reason why they do what they do is simply their AI programming.
@@fredlueplaystudios2325the things that Rye mentioned near the beginning. It’s possible that the animatronics are possessed by the kids they killed (cause it’s their job).
Something that particularly gets to me is how the Withereds feature 02 endos but are considered the same as the 01 Classics. Speaking of 4 or 5 kids, I think while TFC showed the spirits of 5, the Golden bear wasn't shown on the body (but then, that comic also got Cassidy's hair wrong so, iffy). And also, where would Crying Child fit in this if he does share the suit? Also, I heard an ai presidents channel browse through Silver Eyes and said that at one point William got attacked by Bonnie (I'm guessing they went through the non graphic novel).
I just never understood why everyone assumes they know when Afton dies. There’s literally nothing to imply that time didn’t pass between the mini games. I’ve been thinking this since sister location came out.
Always love your theories or overall just the coverage you give in general on the whole matter. I don't know why but it always tickles me when stuff like this happens where everybody overlooks something and one person gets the idea to check it out and then it changes a lot of things, or at least might inspire others to reinspect places. Can't lie though I got semi distracted by the amusing Shipwrecked 64 in one of the monitors in the background, love it. I still gotta watch all the stream from last night, but wound up sick so been in bed most of today. >.
I think that help wanted actually explains how MCI got in ennard's remains to become Molten Freddy. A technician hits the button to melt down the endos Afton left behind, and that's what leads to ennard gaining the metal of the Fnaf 1 animatronics. All the while, Elizabeth tries to keep control as the new souls are binding to the burning/melting body of Ennard. And since the MCI victims hate afton but Elizabeth wants to make him proud, they team up to evict Elizabeth while they can because of the more loose state of their body. Making it much easier to separate themselves from the remains of Baby inside. Ennard was just piloted by Elizabeth until that moment when the MCI souls gained access to the body via Ennard and the Endoskeletons both getting burned and melted. That's my reasoning based on this new info at least. And to me, it explains why Ennard was able to stay together with no other voices speaking inside it besides Elizabeth until that exact moment. The MCI souls suddenly got introduced to Ennard's body and they didn't like that Elizabeth wanted to make their killer proud, so they separated and left Elizabeth/baby behind while they took the remains to become Molten Freddy.
Golden Freddy is shown INTACT at the ending to UCN. Not only does it not make sense for the Vengeful Spirit (Cassidy) to be a part of MoltenMCI because of that, but if you think about how GF manifests in the games and 8bit minigames, it totally makes sense that both Afton and Henry would completely overlook him, which I think is the real reason neither of them got their way in the end. The Vengeful Spirit escaped Sister Location by flying under Afton's radar (he might not have even known GF was possessed) and avoided burning in Pizzaria Simulator by not being able to physically follow Henry's call (since he kinda can't move). I personally believe that THIS is why Princess Quest exists in HW2: Cassidy is the only one left from the MCI who still has their soul intact and kinda needs to kinda make amends to their friends for keeping Afton alive. The poppet collectables are about separating the souls of the MCI so they can be themselves again and maybe even rest, leaving what's left of Glitchtrap to Vanny. The Faztron is about keeping them mixed and using their remnant to power a new body for Glitchtrap. Thats why Glitchtrap wants you to put them all together.
The big question I always have with MoltenMCI is how GoldenDuo fits in. Is CC the fifth soul (with Cassidy clinging to Afton?) or could it be that CC ends up jumping to Aston and Cassidy ends up in Molten Freddy. Based on UCN, the vengeful spirit/TOYSNHK is keeping William alive, and seems to have been with him since FNAF3, based on the ‘no matter how many times they burn us’ line from Orville. So during the process of the follow me mini games, Afton collects remnant from Golden Freddy off screen. Whatever occurred there resulted in one of the souls attaching itself to him. Or perhaps, one of the two souls ‘in Golden Freddy’ wasn’t tied to it the same way the other children were. That spirit could have been the sole one responsible for the springlock’ing incident with William. Golden Freddy can do some weird stuff, including hallucinations. So, it induces hallucinations in William of all the children coming after him. When he gets springlocked, it stays with him to keep him alive and torture him further, basically becoming ‘part’ of Springtrap.
Finding those Endos in the furnace is sooo coooollllllll and I personally have believed in the theory that partial remnant from the MCI kids was within AT LEAST FT Freddy and that’s why he is so erratic and aggressive. He doesn’t have his own space bc his not fit for performing yet or something? Anyways, Awesome vid Rye!!
Your idea for the Toy animatronics being scrapped and used for the Fun times has always been a favorite of mine. I wish it had more to back it up. Follow Me is just clunky if each animatronic dismantled is on a different day.
plus it kinda solves the issue of the mci burning in fnaf 3 and being released in happiest day yet coming back in fnaf 6 somehow. the only problem is the kids in fnaf 6 would be the DCI but fnaf 6 is constantly referencing the original mci as well as UCN.
I mean the game is literally called Five Nights. One thing I thought of in the movie was what if EVERYONE, and I do mean EVERYONE involved in the Fnaf universe has to deal with "five nights" in some way. Like obvious bystanders don't get too involved, but even being a taxi driver who happens to have Freddies on their route have to deal with the animatronics and if they fail they get "jump scared" (as in they die). The point is, this is Williams Five Nights and at the end he messes up and dies for it. So William going to the pizzaria to get the endos was over the course of 5 nights because it's just hard to do so and he needs his breaks lol. The fifth night he goes to get the bonnie suit since it helps him control them (they believe it's a friend) and dies for it because he broke a "rule" like when you fail and get jump scared in game. Just think about it, even PHONE guy dies. He doesn't survive his 5 nights. We obviously get a bunch of retries, but in universe, you fail to meet a criteria when confronting an animatronic and you die and that's what we've been seeing throughout the series.
@GriFFonRec4 now I want this five nights curse to be a story or game 🥺 It would be cool to see how such a world would operate, how the five nights for all got started, etc
Why do I feel like that the ghost of the MCI kids aren't exactly what got William to jump in the Spring Bonnie suit? Idk, I'm just thinking of what happened in the Fazbear Frights books with that professor Phineas could show us what happened here. Like, idk, William combining each half of the souls and them attacking him. Kinda how the professor put a bunch of remnant based parts together in an endoskeleton and got killed. Although that sounds like what Michael does in SL. Interesting thought, but Idk if it'll lead to anything.
13:50 Him going back for the suit doesnt have to happen at different points of time. each minigame plays in between each night you play so it only makes sense that they are one day apart each. even assuming that he saves all of them to melt down after the 4th mini game like in HW, that gives him a whole day to melt down and experiment with it before realizing he might need his costume.
Do you think that lefty could be a refurbished carnie? This is a very long shot, im talkin 100 yard football kick, but it's just some fun thoughts that could conjure up something in the community. If you look at burnt carnie's model, you can just barely see that his right eye is more withered. You may have to squint. But say that at that time his right eye got replaced because it was the most damaged of the two, after decades of collecting dust and rotting away, the untouched eye could have decayed to the point of becoming black. As Henry repared carnie to become lefty, the original eye may have stayed or been replaced with a new black eye for a unique touch. A more realistic approach could be the lefty's design is INSPIRED by his burnt orginal. The eye rotted eye i just mentioned could have inspired the black eye detail. One specific character of that I think could drive home this theory is the color. Burnt carnie is a muted brown with white char accents. But if you were to scrape all of burnt plastic off, you be left with a black tarnished metal. Notice that lefty is not solid black, but a metalic, gun metal black. I think it is possibe that lefty is either a repaired version of carnie, with it's new design based on the chared scraps of the original, or lefty was a completely different animatronic who's build was inspired by the remains of his counterpart. By the location of Fazer Blast and hint we see, I think that carnie was most likely a part of Fall Fest(most likely the 1970 event) if so, do you think it's possible that carnie was one of Henry's first animatronics. That was a whole decade before our first look at fredbears. Whether or not Fredbear's opened before 1983. I highly doubt that it was an establishment before 1970. I noticed that there is no sign of Freddy’s or Fredbear's on the poster. Which leads me to believe that this fall fest may have predated everything. The running theory is that the mediocre melodies were his first animatronics, made to rip off Freddy’s fame. But being that we see an animatronic a decade before that, that closely resembles one of his final animatronics. It really seems that carnie could be his first. Here's some food for thought. Henry has been deemed a copycat in the early timeline for the mediocre melodies. But if he made his first BEAR animatronic at a children's theme event in 1970, is he really the copycat? If William stole the idea and made Fredbear's, and Fredbear's became as big as it did. No one would bat an eye at a small carnival with a simple bear animatronic. I don't know if I like this idea, but I'm just throwing everything I got to see what sticks. Is it possible that William set the carnival on fire to one, preventing it from becoming more successful. And two, to take that idea and reuse it for himself. I don't think he was pure evil at this point, or really evil at all. But it's still just a thought. I don't really think that lefty is a remade carnie. I think it's possible that the design could have been inspired by the withered design. But I doubt that they put that much thought into a connection like that. I am pretty confident, though, that carnie was most likely the first and that Henry was never really the copycat. But more so, tried to reclaim the ideas stolen from him later on after William's fame.
I'm gonna be honest, I thought this was fully already proved. Like I thought it was canon confirmed that the MCI kids were stuffed into their suits, part of them was extracted by Afton, he melted them down and injected that into the funtime animatronics. Then he needed more so he went back and got springlocked. The fun times never got to go out and steal kids cuz Elizabeth got killed first time (a soft open). And the toy animatronics are possessed by parts of the MCI kids. Then the good ending of 3 releases the main souls, the toy parts are melted down for scrap releasing them, and the 6 fire released the rest of the souls. Why wouldn't the "follow me" games take place over time? I'm p sure all the other mini games happen over large periods of time? It makes sense to me.
Crazy how moltenMCI is still being debated when in the books we literally get a scene describing how William melted down the original animatronics and made them into new ones.
~ 5:30 baby saying to michael afton Ennads exits his body" you dont die, you wont die you wont you wont die die you wont die" lol reminds me a looot of Eleanor and her abilities with remnant in the books. And then consider that she is either a parallel to baby or (Frightsfiction) what people and urban legends interpret as baby!
Although MoltenMCI is almost certainly canon, i personally always preferred the MoltenDCI/ScraptrapMCI duo (assuming the DCI kids possessed the Toys) over it
The fact that were still discovering things in Help Wanted to this day is insane. We need someone to do a video, covering every detail and every part of this game because there are so many details that we may not have even noticed
7:20 You say "the parallels to The Silver Eyes" Onscreen, you show The Twisted Ones But the actual parallel you're referring to is in The Fourth Closet I just thought that was funny :p
I hate when people don’t believe golden Freddy was dismantled, it’s like glitch/burntrap isn’t afton or fnaf 4 is an expirement, it’s easily debunkable, and it makes the lore more confusing.
The follow me minigame taking place over many nights makes sense, especially when accounting for how long it could take to deactivate(by force) and THEN disassemble 4 8-foot-tall robots.
Wonder if Rye be interest in my timeline so far theory, it's not perfect, never can be with FNAF but it brings up the idea of a twist that steel wool could do if they do a FNAF 70s-early 80s era game like they wanted, spin a twist on a line that never stated a fact we believe and could mean something else. ("A wound first inflicted on me that I let spread") Hint to the twist.
Could it be possible that the Follow Me minigame takes place over 5 days, where he has time to take apart each animatronic and get the remnant into each of the Funtimes before getting springlocked? That would be a good amount of time in between each dismantling, and would give him enough time with it all
One aspect i really want people to adopt with theorizing is "Failing to reject the hypothesis".You need not just evidence to support but all theories must be able to be proven wrong. So I want to see more theories talking about what would prove "___'' to be wrong becuase it will realy clear a whole lot of stuff up.
William also could have been coming back for the Golden Freddy suit in the last Follow Me, as that’s the one we don’t see disassembled or inside the furnace, and William didn’t get to turn Cassidy/CC into Remnant to inject, it’s just the other 4 victims.
RyeToast, there are Endo 02 feet and legs in that Help Wanted model. I don't blame you for overlooking them, but you should take this into account.(and maybe add to your evidence on this theory)
One of the problems I have with the "Fnaf 3 minigames take place across a long span of time" is the weather. In all of the minigames, there is water leaking from ths ceiling, something that would only happen if it was raining. And that implies that this all took place on the same night. Because the other explanation would be that William intentionally went to the pizzeria only on rainy days, having to wait days or even weeks at a time for it to rain specifically at night. And that just seems silly to me. Another problem I have us that there is no evidence or basis for a time skip in the minigames. If there was some evidence or details to support it, then maybe. But aa it stands, the idea that it doesn't take place in the same night has no solid basis in the games whatsoever. Heck, it doesn't have any parallel evidence from the books either
I think it's also logical to assume the employees who sealed the FNAF 1 location also took the OG animatronics to the rental location. We do see that place having multiple people working there like the two technicians that died.
i know some people hate that science fiction is a key part of FNAF but i fuckin love it-- combining sci-fi and the supernatural i think compliments each other really well in so many ways
I’m always curious about why Rye not liking that the follow me mini games happened with a difference of time. I do think it’s logical, mostly because I think William (from the games) maybe just discovered what’s remanent and he has not idea on how to control it because, mostly, are the spirits of his victims, he then realizes that the only way to maybe controlling them is looking exactly like he looked when he took their lives: dressed up as Spring Boney.
My personal explanation for the Endo_01s & Follow Me is that Afton, quite literally, spent Five Nights at Freddies, all in a row. He went there on Mon-Thurs (or Sun-Wed if we're going based off Purple Guy = Phone Guy Theory) looking for Freddy, Bonnie, Chica, and Foxy respectively, and when he figured that he might even need the Golden Freddy suit (or maybe SpringBonnie, idk), he went back for a fifth night only to meet his demise by the vengeful spirit ringleader
During the follow me minigame, there are only 4 animatronics that get disassembled, 4 heads at the good/bad ending screens, but always 5 ghosts and 5 kids excluding the Puppet. There being only 4 animatronics in the Afton Oven makes sense to me without the inclusion of gold bear. The only thing that sticks out in the follow me minigame is the purple almost freddy like suit that’s used to lure the animatronics towards the room instead of the one Purple Guy dies in.
In minute 7:20 It's funny how he mentions the silver eyes, shows a picture of the twisted ones and the parallel is from the forth closet. Idw I found it funny
Not sure if anyone has brought this up, but the animatronic shells were also possessed, so both the endos and shells of the fnaf 1 animatronics needed to be destroyed to free the mci. In fnaf 3 the shells are likely burned away, leaving only molten freddy remaining
10:48 Here's my theory: FNAF 2 IS when Afton figures out that pieces from a possessed anamatronic can end up possessing am entirely different one. Essentially, since it comes first in the timeline FNAF 2 is when Afton solidifies and masters, "Remnant Theory" He comes up with the idea for the scooper at this time as well as the Funtimes and Circus Baby's Pizza World. Keeping all the Lore straight is difficult, but i believe this can work with the current iteration of the time line.
I think that it’s plausible the entire follow me Mimi game happens over a week, he after each day goes to take one of the animatronics, dismantles them, burns the down and on the 5th day he goes looking for the golden Freddy suit, checking the back rooms because he knows the suits been out of commission for a while, or just gets pushed back there, then dies, before dying tho he was able to get the four main animatronics and melt them down
I'd like to present my personal headcanon for the little snag at the end. The spirits still being there after William took all of the endos is because there is a difference between spirits and remnant, wherein remnant is the energy that power life itself and spirits are the human part of it. The spirits' remnant is what allowed to them to posses the animatronics in the first place, and after William breaks them down and steals the endos, the spirits are set free and corner him in the safe room.
1:35 You know what just realized? Go back through the conversation between FNAFWorld and ScottGames and think of it like a conversation between Scott and FNAFWorld (The Fandom). It hits different.
13:49 We can atleast understand why the Spirit of Foxy would still be there, as his hook arm wasn't used by William (as it can be seen in the FNAF 3's carboard box, also the reason why Phantom Foxy is missing that exact arm as well)
The fact he's literally called molten freddy instead of ennard basically confirms it right off the bat. Plus the blob who is the same character has a bunch of old souls and new parts
what if remnant (the spirit metal created by agony) and spirit possession are two mutually exclusive things so in follow me minigame Afton takes the remnant leaving the spirits to roam for the final follow me minigame
I think someone mentioned the fact that the sister location is an automated system as their explanation for how William could melt the animatronics down and die shortly thereafter. Basically, I’m Night 4, one of the technicians says that “the entire system is automated”, implying William could’ve just chucked the animatronics into the furnace and the automated system would have been able to inject the remnant into the Funtimes to power them or study them long after William had died possibly. Especially considering Dittophobia suggests that the entire bunker runs on its own, with it being poorly kept enough that there’s holes in the ceiling and the doors are off their hinges etc.
Rye, major theory incoming… did Jermey die in sister location as one of the janitor/mechanics? Probably easily disproven, just wondering… Would explain the SL games in HW2
IMO: Remnant is simply a fraction, traceline or byproduct of a spirit possessing a metal/animatronic. One the spirit leaves, the remnant stays, perpetuating supernatural properties at a diminished level. You get supernatural power and possible awareness from the robot without the full willpower and emotions of a human spirit. This is how I believe Ennard / Molten Freddy worked. Ennard may have been more methodical due to Elizabeth being at the helm (seeing as she's whole enough to possess a robot and be fully sentient) meanwhile the others are essentially projecting their programmed behaviour via remnant. This is why, example, Foxy still acts like a cartoon pirate despite being possessed by a vengeful child - because (IMO after Happiest Day) - he's not fully possessed by a whole spirit. TL;DR: Remnant allows for supernatural stuff and funny characters Full spirits allow for Elizabeth, Springtrap and more human characters
I think the reason they are endo 01 models in the furnace is that it was from before they had put in the withered animatronics into the game. They just never thought to replace the models since you cant see them anyway without going out of bounds
The movie implies that Abby could see and talk to the MCI spirits before ever going to Freddy's, so I dont think it would be a stretch for them to scare William during Follow Me even though the Endos have been melted down.
Rye saying mf so casually caught me so off guard
I just lost it. Had to hear it again ‘cause it was that funny.
@@Will-r7h Literally same! I couldn't believe it!
@@Will-r7h SAME! I was like ‘WAIT THE FUCK!?’ XD
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@@weedcaat Go to 3 minutes in if you want the whole clip/context lol
I think Follow Me being not all at once works *if* all the mini games have a period of time between them. Instead of taking all the characters’ remnant at once and then going back later for Spring Bonnie, he takes the remnant of one animatronic, goes back, does whatever experiments with it, and then concludes he needs more and goes back to the pizzeria. That fits the mad scientist angle they’ve been trying to give William and it plays up his hubris; he kept going back because he was convinced he *could.*
Also it would be really inconvienent to have to carry 4 endos back to his bunker all at once. Easier to just make multiple trips.
I’ve never understood why people think it happens all in one night. We got a new mini game *every night* that how I’ve always interpreted it. Also, those suits are ooold and probably rusty, it’ll take a few hours to dismantle them
Also, a reason for the spirits still being at freddy's and not with their endo's is because I think as much as they are connected to the endos theyre connected to the establishment and location of their death. Like in every horror show its a common trope to have the ghost's spirit not only come out of the bed they died in but be chained to the house as well, only heing able to roam and haunt the establishment of their death. Like it makes sense honestly. They loved freddys and going there probably was a staple of their memories. Both the weapon and the location are important and are what anchors a spirit
The game's trailer even implies it.
The child says, "he always comes back".
The implication here being that he kept returning even before he died. That he didn't simply leave them alone.
@@AJ_the_Dragonbecause, the other animatronics would notice what was going on between nights, meaning they should get suspicious of Shadow Freddy.
I actually didnt know about the FNaF 1 Endos in the Furnace level in HW. I only thought that It was just Ennard.
Right?? I had no idea
I knew it wasn't Ennard, I just always wondered what it was, and then forgot about it
Sure you did bud@@creeperboom9813
@@RyeToast*Yo I was watching your old vids and I realized isn't there a ending in ruin when Greg betrayed us? And looking at that couldn't the Security breach ending with Vanny finding Greg be true?*
My take from this video is that we need to check EVERY SINGLE INCH of a FNaF game's assets to get all the lore. That furnace has been in Help Wanted for a couple *years* now, and only recently are we looking closer at it.
Inside out a Mf had me actually dying
I Fr chocked on my cocoa
LMAO SAME, I had to rollback because for a sec i thought i heard it wrong
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*Hyperventilating*
Where
13:50 this is a half baked theory that is just based off an idea that popped into my brain, so excuse any mistakes and just use it to fuel your own theories...
We only see endos in HW, and not their casings. Could it be possible that Afton simply took the endos but left the casings scattered in each mini game. So he grabs one Endo each night, dumping them all in the furnace we see in HW FOR his experiments. He doesn't get to melt them down himself because he returned for Golden Freddy and the final mini game happens.
Could explain why he returns, why the endos in the furnace have yet to be melted, and why Golden Freddy isn't in the furnace
Oooou that actually makes sense!! That’s a good theory
I've thought that, too. It amuses me that it must have been one rainy week. ☔ ☠️
@RyeToast
That’s a good theory, but that still leaves the question of how the melted remnant from the endos got into the funtimes without Afton.
Plus if he did just leave the furnace on, wouldn’t that just end up just destroying the remnant?
Though I do agree with the fact that he left the casings and possibly went back for golden Freddy. After all the Casings can’t be the possessed parts of the robots as then the toy parts lying in the box in Fnaf 3, or the empty Fnaf 1 cases would all also be haunted. So the spirit is at least most likely only tied to the endo.
But, golden freddy doesn't have an endo, which kinda removes the purpose of him going back for it.
13:38
If you need a descent explanation for why the souls appear in 2 places at once under MoltenMCI, look no further than the discarded shells of the robots. The endos are melted down and injected, but the shells are still there. In The Fourth Closet, the souls of the kids are broken into pieces and these pieces look like gray faded versions of themselves, like how we see the ghosts in Follow Me
The game is called FIVE NIGHTS at Freddies. What if those mini games are just William's five nights. Going to get animatronic endos is NOT easy, even for William, if he screws up he gets "jump scared" which means he dies. Just like the game mechanics he has his own "rules" he has to meticulously follow to get through the nights safely and even though he's competent, one mistake will cause his doom. That's why it takes multiple days for him to get all the remnant. The final night is just him going back for the bonnie suit where he THOUGHT it might be an easy night since there are no animatronics left, but he gets surprised by the ghosts. A BRAND NEW threat that never appeared before and didn't know how to handle and did the wrong thing and died for it (like dying to Nightmare Freddy in Fnaf 4 or something).
Think about it, these hauntings don't just effect the main character. What if they effect nearly anyone closely involved, like a Taxi driver whose route is near Freddies? The movie showed a lot of people dying and a lot of people "dealing" with the animatronics, people who you'd think wouldn't be related. William is obviously related, hence why he has to deal with the animatronics as meticulously as we do in game, so it taking multiple nights makes a LOT of sense to me. Hell, remember PHONE GUY also had to deal with 5 nights, and even as a veteran who survived before he dies when he messes up once. I think this franchise is just a story where everyone has to deal with their own versions of Five Nights and whether they live or die or become a remnant zombie just comes down to their luck and skill at handling these animatronics/hauntings in general.
Edit: Thinking about how Vanessa got stabbed. That was William's "jump scare" because she didn't handle him well. That's why she needs to do the things she needs to do, because her father is a murderer and if she messes up she gets punished like a player in game gets jump scared.
3:10 Rye saying "Inside out MF" is crazy
There was a bunch of evidence for this even before this as well, such as Candy Cadet’s stories about five things becoming one, and this exact thing literally happening in The Fourth Closet, but yeah
i love how meta and conscious you are about the wording theorists use when making claims. it helps to validate and keep claims in context and avoid a train of creators trying to "out-clickbait" each other.
I think there's another explaination for FNAF3's spirits in the last minigame.
We see in the 4th Closet that the children get transferred along with remnant but not entriely AND that not all of the pieces are sentient instead appearing like pages of a book or drawings.
The root spirit doesn't seem be entirely bound with the animatronic either.
The movie also seems to confirm this with the children being able to make contact with Abbie even before the events at Freddy's kicks off.
For whatever reason the spirits are anchored to Freddy's and the animatronics but not bound within them.
Afton had remove the endoskeletons but not the suits which also contain animatronic parts and metal. This is why the heads are shown in the endings, the spirits were still anchored to the heads partially. With no body to manipulate they simply just showed up as spirits.
And they may have also gained control over themselves, for example they could pass the boundary into the backroom they couldn't when controlling the animatronics.
Also, for Afton showing up there multiple times. It seems he did each minigame over the course of a night. It's why the trailer gave us the first utterance of Afton's tagline: he always comes back.
I aways come back
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Your family went extinct
Come again?
Dude already came back 114 times
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This seems to be overlooking a massive detail! Ennard is already formed and possessed in this minigame before the furnce is turned on.
I don't think the furnace is being used as timeline evidence, but rather the asset is a clue pointing to the molten MCI theory. In other words, it's not trying to show an order of events, just alluding to the idea that the endos were melted down for remnant. In fact, Ennard being present in the minigame makes the evidence stronger, as if the developers are saying what happened in the furnace becomes this creature.
In the books,Susie controls Funtime Foxy after the original animatronics were fused into the amalgamation and then a part of that got into Funtime Foxy. Perhaps there's a step or two in the middle as opposed to going straight from the originals to the Funtimes?
Oh wow, I always thought the Ennard minigame ended weirdly with the endoskeletons burning, but I never thought to check how many were in there! Plus the fact that it happens in ENNARD'd minigame out of any that reference CBEAR feels pretty definitive to me that that's how Ennard/Molten Freddy started
"Help Wanted PROVES Molten MCI??"
Why does EVERYBODY in the fandom forget the Insanity Ending speech?? Henry practically screams it to the player in that monologue, I just.
_Schematic, white lines on a blue background, shown on a computer screen. It’s labeled “S.calable C.reation of U.lterior P.resence,” or SCUP. It’s the scooper from Sister Location. There are four sections labeled.
A: Excavating Arm (The cup of the scooper).
B: Remnant Injector (The middle of the cup), with a section beneath it reading “NOTES: Leave trace line amount on interior. Over-usage/Over-exposure negates effect.”
C: Arm Base and Balance (A pair of overlapping circles behind the scooper arm).
D: Remnant Reservoir (A container attached to the base) with a section beneath it reading “NOTES: When heated, no observable motion. Keep in heated tank at sustained temperature. Substance should be malleable, but not more. There is a possibility that overheating might neutralize the effects permanently.” _
[Tape man] “It’s only now that I understand the depth of the depravity of this…creature, this monster, that I unwillingly helped to create.
As if what he had already done wasn’t enough, he found a new way to desecrate, to humiliate, to destroy.”
[Tape man, cont] “As if the suffering wasn’t enough, the loss of innocence, the loss of everything to so many people, small souls trapped in prisons of my making, now set to new purpose.
And used in ways I never thought imaginable.”
[Tape man, cont.] “He lured them all back, back to a familiar place, back with familiar tricks. He brought them all together.
Are they still. Aware? I hope not.
It keeps me awake at night.
I could make myself…sleep, but not yet.”
[Tape man, cont.] “Not until I undo what he has done, and heal this wound. A wound first inflicted on me, but then one that I let bleed out, to cause all of this.
He set some kind of trap, I don’t know what it was, but he led them there, again. He overpowered them, again. And he robbed them of the only thing that they had, again.
I dont know how those tiny breaths of life came to inhabit those machines, but they will never find rest now, not like this.
I have to call them all back, all of them, together, in one place. [beep as transmission ends]"
*Tell me with a straight face that Molten MCI wasn't confirmed back in Pizzeria Simulator.*
What if instead of metallic things for Michael to possess, it’s just the iron in his blood????
I find the idea that the endoskeletons of the animatronics were used.. odd, to say the least, because you can *clearly* see parts of the endoskeletons in the museum of Rockstar Row in Security Breach.
Help Wanted was always a game that contradicted past as well as future FNAF lore.
Interesting thing I thought of when you mentioned animalistic tendencies in the Funtime animatronics. In the original fnaf the animatronics behave like their real life counterparts. Bonnie and Chica both behave like a bunny and chicken would, roaming around the different areas, occasionally looking at the player, but roaming until they reach what they’ve been searching for, the player. Foxy stares at you, waiting for a time where they can make their attack much like a fox would do to their pray waiting for a pounce. Freddy is a slow but sneaky character making his presence known with sound, but being not easy to spot. When the player stares at him he stops moving, just like how a bear would if you spotted it, until it can be right in front of the prey with nothing they can do to stop it, just like how Freddy behaves in the office, you can’t stop him before it’s too late unless you are absolutely prepared. Idk maybe I’m just generalizing and all animals behave similarly but it makes sense to me ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
It makes sense to me too :D
"prey" btw
I forget I'm an outlier with my vast knowledge of obscure FNAF theory crafting until I was surprised that the MoltenMCI needed to be explained at this point.
I don't see why all the Follow Me minigames would happen close together except for the last one, which is why I think they all have a period of time between them.
Maybe William only has space in his car to store 1, so he does a separate trip for each animatronic, last one just being to retrieve the Spring Bonnie suit again.
As for the spirits being able to attack William, yeah I don't know. It is the biggest flaw with MoltenMCI for now.
Rye I just gotta tell you how much I love your attitude. The love the fact that you don't take shit from rude and belligerent people, stand up for those in need and unapologetically just be yourself. Much respect and thanks for using your platform for good. Didn't know where else to say this but thanks!
I've come up with a theory called candymci. Long story short, after the animatronics were destroyed by William, Henry or some fazbear employee took the parts and built candy cadet who has the souls inside him. If you need evidence, leave a reply and I'll give a lot of evidence for my theory. Here's the evidence, in fnaf 6, he only tells story's releated to 5 things becoming one. In ruin and help wanted 2, He tells different story's. Now you might think this doesn't work because he is not required for the true ending in fnaf 6 but he appears in ruin and help wanted 2. So this theory can work.
don’t be shy, give us the evidence
what's the evidence ??
Explain
Give da evidence
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My crazy theory is what if there aren't ghost possessing the animatronics or any remnant. That's just the story that the owner of the Pizzaplex want's people to focus on, instead of the truth of what actually happened. The mimic existed way earlier than what we know and the endo animatronics were given the mimic code. Hence why they attack people. Jist like how Edwin attacked it.
William drags the parts from the Endo-01’s to his SL chambers.
Or the SL location is below the FNAF 1 restaurant, definitely plausible 🥴
I think MoltenMCI can happen without FuntimeMCI.
Think about it, how much mass is left of Ennard after everything happened? It must have lost mass to form itself since it's not 4 times as big as the avarage Funtime animatronic, then lost more mass when entering Michael because there is no way all of that is fitting on him, then lost even more mass after Baby left it, so it should be pathetically tiny right? And yet when we see what is left in Molten Freddy in PizzaSim, it's big, gigantic even, looks much bigger than Ennard was.
So how did it get all this mass? Easy, it scavanged for metal parts, and did it for years, specially metal with remnant or agony.
Why? Because that is how Molten Freddy got the MCI remnant, he went to the only place where it would be, in Fazbear Frights, after Michael set fire on it. That explains why Molten Freddy is specifically "Molten" but not Ennard or Scrap Baby, he got molten metal from the MCI from the FF fire.
And the HW finding of this week helps it, because when the endos are in the furnace, Ennard is already formed, so I think it's hinting that the MCI endos burned *AFTER* Ennard formed, not before. And the only place the MCI endos would be and would burn after Ennard is already formed is the FF location.
And we know from the Blob/Tangle that "metal spaghetti" is FNAF's shorthand for "this thing is made of a bunch of metal parts".
I like this. Idk enough to add or debate but I love the idea that molten freddy isnt molten cause it was in the fire but instead its molten cause it uses burned parts.
my friend, I think you hit the nail on the head.
So there you have it, if the Funtimes don't have souls, then why do they act weird? How would Molten Freddy be able to move around without having a soul in the first place??
@@fredlueplaystudios2325 They are murder bots made by William for the sake of his remnant research and usage, I would say the reason why they do what they do is simply their AI programming.
@@fredlueplaystudios2325the things that Rye mentioned near the beginning. It’s possible that the animatronics are possessed by the kids they killed (cause it’s their job).
Something that particularly gets to me is how the Withereds feature 02 endos but are considered the same as the 01 Classics.
Speaking of 4 or 5 kids, I think while TFC showed the spirits of 5, the Golden bear wasn't shown on the body (but then, that comic also got Cassidy's hair wrong so, iffy). And also, where would Crying Child fit in this if he does share the suit?
Also, I heard an ai presidents channel browse through Silver Eyes and said that at one point William got attacked by Bonnie (I'm guessing they went through the non graphic novel).
and dosent fnaf 1 take place after fnaf 2?
13:36 I believe that all save the minigames happen in different nights, it happened in one week
I just never understood why everyone assumes they know when Afton dies. There’s literally nothing to imply that time didn’t pass between the mini games. I’ve been thinking this since sister location came out.
Always love your theories or overall just the coverage you give in general on the whole matter. I don't know why but it always tickles me when stuff like this happens where everybody overlooks something and one person gets the idea to check it out and then it changes a lot of things, or at least might inspire others to reinspect places.
Can't lie though I got semi distracted by the amusing Shipwrecked 64 in one of the monitors in the background, love it. I still gotta watch all the stream from last night, but wound up sick so been in bed most of today. >.
I think that help wanted actually explains how MCI got in ennard's remains to become Molten Freddy.
A technician hits the button to melt down the endos Afton left behind, and that's what leads to ennard gaining the metal of the Fnaf 1 animatronics. All the while, Elizabeth tries to keep control as the new souls are binding to the burning/melting body of Ennard.
And since the MCI victims hate afton but Elizabeth wants to make him proud, they team up to evict Elizabeth while they can because of the more loose state of their body. Making it much easier to separate themselves from the remains of Baby inside. Ennard was just piloted by Elizabeth until that moment when the MCI souls gained access to the body via Ennard and the Endoskeletons both getting burned and melted.
That's my reasoning based on this new info at least. And to me, it explains why Ennard was able to stay together with no other voices speaking inside it besides Elizabeth until that exact moment. The MCI souls suddenly got introduced to Ennard's body and they didn't like that Elizabeth wanted to make their killer proud, so they separated and left Elizabeth/baby behind while they took the remains to become Molten Freddy.
I’m surprised no one has noticed the Help Wanted furnace after all these years I always had a feeling that’s what caused the molten mci
no you didnt
Great theory Rye! My patience paid off lol
Golden Freddy is shown INTACT at the ending to UCN. Not only does it not make sense for the Vengeful Spirit (Cassidy) to be a part of MoltenMCI because of that, but if you think about how GF manifests in the games and 8bit minigames, it totally makes sense that both Afton and Henry would completely overlook him, which I think is the real reason neither of them got their way in the end.
The Vengeful Spirit escaped Sister Location by flying under Afton's radar (he might not have even known GF was possessed) and avoided burning in Pizzaria Simulator by not being able to physically follow Henry's call (since he kinda can't move). I personally believe that THIS is why Princess Quest exists in HW2:
Cassidy is the only one left from the MCI who still has their soul intact and kinda needs to kinda make amends to their friends for keeping Afton alive. The poppet collectables are about separating the souls of the MCI so they can be themselves again and maybe even rest, leaving what's left of Glitchtrap to Vanny. The Faztron is about keeping them mixed and using their remnant to power a new body for Glitchtrap. Thats why Glitchtrap wants you to put them all together.
The big question I always have with MoltenMCI is how GoldenDuo fits in. Is CC the fifth soul (with Cassidy clinging to Afton?) or could it be that CC ends up jumping to Aston and Cassidy ends up in Molten Freddy.
Based on UCN, the vengeful spirit/TOYSNHK is keeping William alive, and seems to have been with him since FNAF3, based on the ‘no matter how many times they burn us’ line from Orville. So during the process of the follow me mini games, Afton collects remnant from Golden Freddy off screen. Whatever occurred there resulted in one of the souls attaching itself to him. Or perhaps, one of the two souls ‘in Golden Freddy’ wasn’t tied to it the same way the other children were. That spirit could have been the sole one responsible for the springlock’ing incident with William. Golden Freddy can do some weird stuff, including hallucinations. So, it induces hallucinations in William of all the children coming after him. When he gets springlocked, it stays with him to keep him alive and torture him further, basically becoming ‘part’ of Springtrap.
Finding those Endos in the furnace is sooo coooollllllll and I personally have believed in the theory that partial remnant from the MCI kids was within AT LEAST FT Freddy and that’s why he is so erratic and aggressive. He doesn’t have his own space bc his not fit for performing yet or something? Anyways, Awesome vid Rye!!
Your idea for the Toy animatronics being scrapped and used for the Fun times has always been a favorite of mine. I wish it had more to back it up. Follow Me is just clunky if each animatronic dismantled is on a different day.
plus it kinda solves the issue of the mci burning in fnaf 3 and being released in happiest day yet coming back in fnaf 6 somehow. the only problem is the kids in fnaf 6 would be the DCI but fnaf 6 is constantly referencing the original mci as well as UCN.
I mean the game is literally called Five Nights. One thing I thought of in the movie was what if EVERYONE, and I do mean EVERYONE involved in the Fnaf universe has to deal with "five nights" in some way. Like obvious bystanders don't get too involved, but even being a taxi driver who happens to have Freddies on their route have to deal with the animatronics and if they fail they get "jump scared" (as in they die). The point is, this is Williams Five Nights and at the end he messes up and dies for it. So William going to the pizzaria to get the endos was over the course of 5 nights because it's just hard to do so and he needs his breaks lol. The fifth night he goes to get the bonnie suit since it helps him control them (they believe it's a friend) and dies for it because he broke a "rule" like when you fail and get jump scared in game.
Just think about it, even PHONE guy dies. He doesn't survive his 5 nights. We obviously get a bunch of retries, but in universe, you fail to meet a criteria when confronting an animatronic and you die and that's what we've been seeing throughout the series.
@GriFFonRec4 now I want this five nights curse to be a story or game 🥺 It would be cool to see how such a world would operate, how the five nights for all got started, etc
Why do I feel like that the ghost of the MCI kids aren't exactly what got William to jump in the Spring Bonnie suit?
Idk, I'm just thinking of what happened in the Fazbear Frights books with that professor Phineas could show us what happened here. Like, idk, William combining each half of the souls and them attacking him. Kinda how the professor put a bunch of remnant based parts together in an endoskeleton and got killed.
Although that sounds like what Michael does in SL.
Interesting thought, but Idk if it'll lead to anything.
Hey congratulations on reaching your 100 FNAF video!
13:50 Him going back for the suit doesnt have to happen at different points of time. each minigame plays in between each night you play so it only makes sense that they are one day apart each. even assuming that he saves all of them to melt down after the 4th mini game like in HW, that gives him a whole day to melt down and experiment with it before realizing he might need his costume.
Willam actually came back to the pizzeria to try and find spare scraps but the suits actually had enough remnant to make the souls according to matpat
Do you think that lefty could be a refurbished carnie? This is a very long shot, im talkin 100 yard football kick, but it's just some fun thoughts that could conjure up something in the community.
If you look at burnt carnie's model, you can just barely see that his right eye is more withered. You may have to squint. But say that at that time his right eye got replaced because it was the most damaged of the two, after decades of collecting dust and rotting away, the untouched eye could have decayed to the point of becoming black. As Henry repared carnie to become lefty, the original eye may have stayed or been replaced with a new black eye for a unique touch.
A more realistic approach could be the lefty's design is INSPIRED by his burnt orginal. The eye rotted eye i just mentioned could have inspired the black eye detail.
One specific character of that I think could drive home this theory is the color. Burnt carnie is a muted brown with white char accents. But if you were to scrape all of burnt plastic off, you be left with a black tarnished metal. Notice that lefty is not solid black, but a metalic, gun metal black.
I think it is possibe that lefty is either a repaired version of carnie, with it's new design based on the chared scraps of the original, or lefty was a completely different animatronic who's build was inspired by the remains of his counterpart.
By the location of Fazer Blast and hint we see, I think that carnie was most likely a part of Fall Fest(most likely the 1970 event) if so, do you think it's possible that carnie was one of Henry's first animatronics. That was a whole decade before our first look at fredbears.
Whether or not Fredbear's opened before 1983. I highly doubt that it was an establishment before 1970. I noticed that there is no sign of Freddy’s or Fredbear's on the poster. Which leads me to believe that this fall fest may have predated everything.
The running theory is that the mediocre melodies were his first animatronics, made to rip off Freddy’s fame. But being that we see an animatronic a decade before that, that closely resembles one of his final animatronics. It really seems that carnie could be his first.
Here's some food for thought. Henry has been deemed a copycat in the early timeline for the mediocre melodies. But if he made his first BEAR animatronic at a children's theme event in 1970, is he really the copycat? If William stole the idea and made Fredbear's, and Fredbear's became as big as it did. No one would bat an eye at a small carnival with a simple bear animatronic.
I don't know if I like this idea, but I'm just throwing everything I got to see what sticks. Is it possible that William set the carnival on fire to one, preventing it from becoming more successful. And two, to take that idea and reuse it for himself. I don't think he was pure evil at this point, or really evil at all. But it's still just a thought.
I don't really think that lefty is a remade carnie. I think it's possible that the design could have been inspired by the withered design. But I doubt that they put that much thought into a connection like that.
I am pretty confident, though, that carnie was most likely the first and that Henry was never really the copycat. But more so, tried to reclaim the ideas stolen from him later on after William's fame.
I'm gonna be honest, I thought this was fully already proved.
Like I thought it was canon confirmed that the MCI kids were stuffed into their suits, part of them was extracted by Afton, he melted them down and injected that into the funtime animatronics.
Then he needed more so he went back and got springlocked.
The fun times never got to go out and steal kids cuz Elizabeth got killed first time (a soft open).
And the toy animatronics are possessed by parts of the MCI kids.
Then the good ending of 3 releases the main souls, the toy parts are melted down for scrap releasing them, and the 6 fire released the rest of the souls.
Why wouldn't the "follow me" games take place over time? I'm p sure all the other mini games happen over large periods of time? It makes sense to me.
Crazy how moltenMCI is still being debated when in the books we literally get a scene describing how William melted down the original animatronics and made them into new ones.
well the fourth closet wasn’t supposed to be used as evidence so yes the moltenmci is debatable
I love your theories! And I love how, at the beginning of the video, you can see Shipwrecked 64 and FNaF 2 gameplay in the background!
3:09 - RYE JUST SAID MF SO CASUALLY LMAO
~ 5:30 baby saying to michael afton Ennads exits his body" you dont die, you wont die you wont you wont die die you wont die" lol
reminds me a looot of Eleanor and her abilities with remnant in the books. And then consider that she is either a parallel to baby or (Frightsfiction) what people and urban legends interpret as baby!
Although MoltenMCI is almost certainly canon, i personally always preferred the MoltenDCI/ScraptrapMCI duo (assuming the DCI kids possessed the Toys) over it
The fact that were still discovering things in Help Wanted to this day is insane. We need someone to do a video, covering every detail and every part of this game because there are so many details that we may not have even noticed
7:20
You say "the parallels to The Silver Eyes"
Onscreen, you show The Twisted Ones
But the actual parallel you're referring to is in The Fourth Closet
I just thought that was funny :p
I love that you go through both sides of the theory ❤❤❤❤❤❤
I hate when people don’t believe golden Freddy was dismantled, it’s like glitch/burntrap isn’t afton or fnaf 4 is an expirement, it’s easily debunkable, and it makes the lore more confusing.
11:20 The general issue with most ideas is WHEN DO SISTER LOCATIONS AMATRONICS OCCUR? How did aft on get that remnant if he was spaghettied?
11:36 Mate isn't one of Candy Cadet's stories about EXACTLY THIS that you're describing?
bro ive been loving your podcast. keep up the good work.
"We need to be more careful with our words" "I'm still gonna say it for clickbait though."
That is such a happy cat
And a bit big🤣
The follow me minigame taking place over many nights makes sense, especially when accounting for how long it could take to deactivate(by force) and THEN disassemble 4 8-foot-tall robots.
Wonder if Rye be interest in my timeline so far theory, it's not perfect, never can be with FNAF but it brings up the idea of a twist that steel wool could do if they do a FNAF 70s-early 80s era game like they wanted, spin a twist on a line that never stated a fact we believe and could mean something else.
("A wound first inflicted on me that I let spread") Hint to the twist.
Could it be possible that the Follow Me minigame takes place over 5 days, where he has time to take apart each animatronic and get the remnant into each of the Funtimes before getting springlocked? That would be a good amount of time in between each dismantling, and would give him enough time with it all
MoltenMCI also has another detail that may be obvious to most but MAYBE Scrap Chica WAS going to be in FFPS but was cut.
Remnant is also talked about in Fnaf AR. (Rest in piece)
That thumbnail goes hard af
Just noticed this, the scrap endo-01 models in the furnace use the endo-02 feet
One aspect i really want people to adopt with theorizing is "Failing to reject the hypothesis".You need not just evidence to support but all theories must be able to be proven wrong. So I want to see more theories talking about what would prove "___'' to be wrong becuase it will realy clear a whole lot of stuff up.
William also could have been coming back for the Golden Freddy suit in the last Follow Me, as that’s the one we don’t see disassembled or inside the furnace, and William didn’t get to turn Cassidy/CC into Remnant to inject, it’s just the other 4 victims.
RyeToast, there are Endo 02 feet and legs in that Help Wanted model. I don't blame you for overlooking them, but you should take this into account.(and maybe add to your evidence on this theory)
Ok but for real? That thumbnail is 🔥🔥🔥
One of the problems I have with the "Fnaf 3 minigames take place across a long span of time" is the weather. In all of the minigames, there is water leaking from ths ceiling, something that would only happen if it was raining. And that implies that this all took place on the same night.
Because the other explanation would be that William intentionally went to the pizzeria only on rainy days, having to wait days or even weeks at a time for it to rain specifically at night. And that just seems silly to me.
Another problem I have us that there is no evidence or basis for a time skip in the minigames. If there was some evidence or details to support it, then maybe. But aa it stands, the idea that it doesn't take place in the same night has no solid basis in the games whatsoever. Heck, it doesn't have any parallel evidence from the books either
You learn something new every day in the world of FNAF. 😏
I think it's also logical to assume the employees who sealed the FNAF 1 location also took the OG animatronics to the rental location. We do see that place having multiple people working there like the two technicians that died.
"Fnaf youtubers need to be kid friendly, there are a lot of children watching their content"
RyeToast: 3:09
ive been thinking about that furnace for years
i know some people hate that science fiction is a key part of FNAF but i fuckin love it-- combining sci-fi and the supernatural i think compliments each other really well in so many ways
I’m always curious about why Rye not liking that the follow me mini games happened with a difference of time.
I do think it’s logical, mostly because I think William (from the games) maybe just discovered what’s remanent and he has not idea on how to control it because, mostly, are the spirits of his victims, he then realizes that the only way to maybe controlling them is looking exactly like he looked when he took their lives: dressed up as Spring Boney.
I feel like the Bonnie fish story explains the withered animatronics spare parts for the toys theory.
My personal explanation for the Endo_01s & Follow Me is that Afton, quite literally, spent Five Nights at Freddies, all in a row. He went there on Mon-Thurs (or Sun-Wed if we're going based off Purple Guy = Phone Guy Theory) looking for Freddy, Bonnie, Chica, and Foxy respectively, and when he figured that he might even need the Golden Freddy suit (or maybe SpringBonnie, idk), he went back for a fifth night only to meet his demise by the vengeful spirit ringleader
During the follow me minigame, there are only 4 animatronics that get disassembled, 4 heads at the good/bad ending screens, but always 5 ghosts and 5 kids excluding the Puppet. There being only 4 animatronics in the Afton Oven makes sense to me without the inclusion of gold bear.
The only thing that sticks out in the follow me minigame is the purple almost freddy like suit that’s used to lure the animatronics towards the room instead of the one Purple Guy dies in.
In minute 7:20 It's funny how he mentions the silver eyes, shows a picture of the twisted ones and the parallel is from the forth closet. Idw I found it funny
3:10 caught me off guard 😂
At this point they need to release a new fnaf guide book or a book with a timeline that won’t confuse people.
Not sure if anyone has brought this up, but the animatronic shells were also possessed, so both the endos and shells of the fnaf 1 animatronics needed to be destroyed to free the mci. In fnaf 3 the shells are likely burned away, leaving only molten freddy remaining
wow I would have thought funnaff would have found this hidden in the game lol
10:48 Here's my theory: FNAF 2 IS when Afton figures out that pieces from a possessed anamatronic can end up possessing am entirely different one. Essentially, since it comes first in the timeline FNAF 2 is when Afton solidifies and masters, "Remnant Theory" He comes up with the idea for the scooper at this time as well as the Funtimes and Circus Baby's Pizza World. Keeping all the Lore straight is difficult, but i believe this can work with the current iteration of the time line.
I think that it’s plausible the entire follow me Mimi game happens over a week, he after each day goes to take one of the animatronics, dismantles them, burns the down and on the 5th day he goes looking for the golden Freddy suit, checking the back rooms because he knows the suits been out of commission for a while, or just gets pushed back there, then dies, before dying tho he was able to get the four main animatronics and melt them down
I adore the fact that you use Billy Hatcher music in your vids. That's all lol
I'd like to present my personal headcanon for the little snag at the end. The spirits still being there after William took all of the endos is because there is a difference between spirits and remnant, wherein remnant is the energy that power life itself and spirits are the human part of it. The spirits' remnant is what allowed to them to posses the animatronics in the first place, and after William breaks them down and steals the endos, the spirits are set free and corner him in the safe room.
1:35 You know what just realized? Go back through the conversation between FNAFWorld and ScottGames and think of it like a conversation between Scott and FNAFWorld (The Fandom). It hits different.
13:49 We can atleast understand why the Spirit of Foxy would still be there, as his hook arm wasn't used by William (as it can be seen in the FNAF 3's carboard box, also the reason why Phantom Foxy is missing that exact arm as well)
The fact he's literally called molten freddy instead of ennard basically confirms it right off the bat.
Plus the blob who is the same character has a bunch of old souls and new parts
what if remnant (the spirit metal created by agony) and spirit possession are two mutually exclusive things so in follow me minigame Afton takes the remnant leaving the spirits to roam for the final follow me minigame
I think someone mentioned the fact that the sister location is an automated system as their explanation for how William could melt the animatronics down and die shortly thereafter. Basically, I’m Night 4, one of the technicians says that “the entire system is automated”, implying William could’ve just chucked the animatronics into the furnace and the automated system would have been able to inject the remnant into the Funtimes to power them or study them long after William had died possibly. Especially considering Dittophobia suggests that the entire bunker runs on its own, with it being poorly kept enough that there’s holes in the ceiling and the doors are off their hinges etc.
Being honest about click bait is super respectable
15:30 YOU CUSSED IN FRONT OF HIM!!
Rye, major theory incoming… did Jermey die in sister location as one of the janitor/mechanics?
Probably easily disproven, just wondering…
Would explain the SL games in HW2
IMO:
Remnant is simply a fraction, traceline or byproduct of a spirit possessing a metal/animatronic. One the spirit leaves, the remnant stays, perpetuating supernatural properties at a diminished level. You get supernatural power and possible awareness from the robot without the full willpower and emotions of a human spirit.
This is how I believe Ennard / Molten Freddy worked. Ennard may have been more methodical due to Elizabeth being at the helm (seeing as she's whole enough to possess a robot and be fully sentient) meanwhile the others are essentially projecting their programmed behaviour via remnant. This is why, example, Foxy still acts like a cartoon pirate despite being possessed by a vengeful child - because (IMO after Happiest Day) - he's not fully possessed by a whole spirit.
TL;DR:
Remnant allows for supernatural stuff and funny characters
Full spirits allow for Elizabeth, Springtrap and more human characters
Gotta love the Shipwrecked 64 gameplay at the end
I think the reason they are endo 01 models in the furnace is that it was from before they had put in the withered animatronics into the game.
They just never thought to replace the models since you cant see them anyway without going out of bounds
The movie implies that Abby could see and talk to the MCI spirits before ever going to Freddy's, so I dont think it would be a stretch for them to scare William during Follow Me even though the Endos have been melted down.