I wrote that on another video. The entire movie’s success absolutely _depends_ on the audience suspending their disbelief and believing in the truth of Biehn’s character. The audience must _feel_ the jeopardy that Sarah’s life is in and the future of humanity. If the performance was ho-hum, people would have thought it was an “interesting” movie, conceptually and in special effects, but that’s it. It may have been considered one of those 80’s movies that straddled between an “A” and “B” movie. T-2 may have been made, but at a lower budget. Even rewatching it, I totally buy into his character.
The writing and editing in Terminator makes it feel like it is so much more expensive than it is. The Tech Noir scene is perfectly paced and edited, the sound when the Terminator finds her and is just about to plug her perfection.
You do realize that (A) she’s in shock, and (B) this film came out in the mid-80’s, long before every tactiKEWL rifle had a laser on it… right? Troops going into Iraq in 1991 didn’t even have them yet. That was an incredibly high tech piece of equipment for that era and she didn’t seem to know anything about guns anyway.
The Terminator is also such an incredibly efficient piece of screenwriting. I'll give you one example. Early in the movie, there's a scene when Reese drifts off into sleep and has a remembered dream/nightmare about something that happened to him in the future war. He’s out with a female soldier, and they’re trying to take down an HK tank with an explosive charge of some kind. They succeed, but the soldier is vaporized in the process. Reese flees to a jury-rigged car with a top mounted plasma cannon. He drives it away while another resistance soldier mans the cannon. A flying HK approaches, hits them, and the car flips. As flames rise up and he tries to free himself, yelling in pain, Reese in 1984 snaps out of the memory and wakes up. What is this scene doing? Several things. First it gives us a glimpse of the future war, the deadly grimness of the world, how tough the fight is. It shows us how Reese got the burn scars we'll see later. It shows that women fight alongside the men, and that when Reese tells later than the women in his time are “good fighters”, he means it. Everybody fights. But the really subtle and clever thing the scene does is that *it shows us Reese driving a car*, making use of it as a weapon of war. Without this scene, our brains would be bothered by the fridge logic of a man transported from a post apocalyptic world where humanity seems to spend most of its time hiding underground, yet being able to drive a car with competence around the streets of L.A. For a movie with several major car chases it’s vital that we don’t question this. Because of this one scene, the danger that we won’t accept it is headed off at the pass. You never even question it, and you probably don’t realize why. That is great screenwriting.
Wonderful observation and comment. It's so rare to find good comments like this on TH-cam nowadays. Most of the comments are "Who's watching this in 2024" or people trying to show off that they are experts in everything.
That's one of Cameron's greatest strengths as a director and screenwriter. He rarely wastes time in his films, every scene is doing multiple things, conveying vital information on multiple levels to the viewer.
Great comment and I'll add (perhaps irrelevantly) that my favorite piece of exposition in the movie is when Kyle is being questioned about how the time machine works and he's like, "I don't know! I didn't build the effing thing!" It was such a perfectly dismissive way to tell the audience not to overthink the tech as it's not what's important
The first time I watched Terminator 2: Judgement Day was from a DVD rental I got from Blockbuster back when I was like around 9ish (This was around like a year or so before Blockbuster started shutting down due to going out of business)
I love the simplicity of T1. It's that same simplicity you see in the original alien. It's a horror film where characters are being stalked by something that is not human. But given a high concept twist. A recent movie that was hugely successful which followed this formula is The remake of the Invisible man. A vulnerable woman is stalked by a killer who uses technology to make him invisible.
It's also the best "single timeline with a loop" movie ever made. Unfortunately, all the subsequent movies switch to a different set of rules, allowing time travellers to change the future. The whole point of the first movie is that history wasn't changed at all - there was never any version of 1984 without both Reese and the terminator being present in L.A.
The difference is in the passion, finding your way around challenges, giving time to the things. No studio mandates. Movies nowadays, are just assembled in the ford assembly model. The artists are overworked art is lost.
40 yrs later & this is still my favorite movie of all time. So much so I bought a 6"2' endo skeleton of this Terminator that greets everyone who walks into my house.
The movies before CGI will never be watched the same way again. Back then, there was no expectation or anticipation of CGI being used even just as duct tape to clean up a shot or enhance a practical effect. What you saw on camera, actually existed. Instead of wondering whether or not something was CGI, you just saw a robot wearing human skin that couldn't be killed with bullets. Utterly terrifying, and magical.
If something can be made real, or in camera real size, then make it. If it is impossible to build some kind of prop, need to evaluate script is it believable in first place. Sometimes, fake is required. That is when we need miniatures, composite, painting, CGI etc. but there is risk that they are overused and that can break illusion. CGI isn't automatically bad. It is easily best tool for the job when need to do some zero gravity or something where scale is too large for proper miniature. Problem is that instead of crafting perfect shots, they started to use CGI to save costs. Early days of CGI in cinema it was very expensive and shots were crafted carefully. However in television CGI was always tool to save costs but that way to do stuff was also adopted in cinema very quickly.
Which is why the Star Wars original trilogy is still mind blowing. The space fleet battle over Endor is unfathomable for 1983, I still can’t believe what they were able to accomplish.
@@30AndHatingIt Showing alien planet from space or spacecrafts is the thing where CGI is best tool for the job. Human eye is the most sensitive for "motion field", spatial resolution in luminance is next important thing and colors are way behind those. That means that physics and light interactions, like casting shadows on moving objects correctly is important. And miniatures really suck on zero gravity stuff. Babylon 5 did very smart move to use CGI on insert shots and all space battles, even some backgrounds too. They use really low fidelity VFX and with enough RAM, rendering same shots with home computer was possible. It was cost optimization, but simultaneously they provide better visuals than many miniature space battles.
@@staomruel Analog way is that we can manipulate image by layers. We can make one layer as projected backdrop or painting, we can put miniature models front of it, or we can capture them against bluescreen and use that as new layer. Digital effects make possible to manipulate parts of layer in "pixel level". Analog way was glass painting but that can't be animated. Or draw some lasers by hand to film frames. The space fleet battle over Endor back in 1983 looks pretty bad these days. CGI can make zero gravity physics work correctly, ships cast casts shadows correctly, lights work correctly, and space craft can actually hit to other space craft without looking garbage. It is amazing that 10 years later home computers were capable doing better shots to space battles what we saw in Star Wars VI, except that they were rendered at television resolution. So there are very good use for CGI. Like those zero gravity things, large scale stuff that are infeasible with miniatures, creating alien planet by changing sky color and adding two moons there, removing wires, dinosaurs... So while bad CGI ruins stuff, I also like CGI. I miss those scifi series from 90s, and early 00s that use new tool for good, telling stories that were too expensive to make before CGI.
Terminator 2 is first Hollywood move that I ever saw, I was a kid and we used to have this VCR in our home and we used to watch it often. The ending scene to this day is a very emotional one and Im 30 year old! To me this is the greatest movie of Arnold Schwarzneggar
I just watch T2 the other day. T-1000 is still a fucking psychopath. The ending is brutal, a family getting torn apart. Sarah learn to trust The Machine. The Machine learn what it means to be Human. John learns what Sacrifice & Family means. Jim Cameron's finest hour by a country mile.
It's usually said "creativity thrives in a box". The limitations makes people have to find solutions that end up making the movies better. There are several movies from the 80's and 90's that became better because they had to work around the limitations. Examples like Terminator, Jaws and Alien prove this.
@@DialloMoore503 If there are no budget or other constraints, it is good idea to set some constraints artificially. That seems to help creativity and result seems to be... better.
Absolutely. One of if not, my favorite horror film of all time. What does it best for me, is that EVERYTHING about the monster you see in the film, exists in the real world. You can touch it, and it can touch you. When the cameras turn off and filming is done for the day, the prop monster is still there, in physical space. Same goes for the Chuckie doll, and Bruce the shark, from Jaws. The Xenomorph from Alien. If by some freak accident, a magical lightning bolt struck the prop and gave it life, we already gave it a body.
it's a masterpiece, the low budget gritty atmosphere, the dark brooding music and tension created during the tech noir scene, all make it such a thrilling chase movie with a horror tone. My number one movie of all time, I'll never get sick of it.
2:46 The OP was wrong here. The exoskeleton acted clunky only because it was limping due to being struck by a heavy truck on the highway. You wouldn't think James Cameron missed that detail, would you?
The "mask" had also disintegrated at that point, so there was also no need for it to blend in anymore. This means it could reasonably terminate the process responsible for convincing human mannerisms specifically to devote full processing power toward completing its objectives. Combined with the possibility if damage done to actual mechanical components, the jankiness makes perfect sense.
The first movie I had ever owned on DVD was the 2001 Special Edition of The Terminator. My parents bought it for me for my birthday, I was 6 at the time lol.
Film was used. It was very expensive to use. Everything was meticulously planned before a shot. Not so much anymore with digital cameras. You can do whatever you want in a short amount of time, and you can do it over and over countless of times for no additional cost than overtime pay. Also, film is analogue. 35mm can be upscaled to 8K and above with no problem. 65 mm even more so. And honestly, the aesthetic of film and the lenses used at the time was better and of higher quality. It looks more cinematic than equipment of today.
@@r.davidsenon a similar note, I think the ease and cheapness of CGI became an unfortunate crutch for, well…everything. When effects were painstakingly practically done, you did it right and you did it sparingly. I’m so sick of gratuitous CGI nowadays, it’s boring and bad.
@@SheilaPatterson You're right. CGI is used for almost everything nowadays, as is green screens. This reduces depth of field in many scenes, not to mention a lack of use regarding interesting blocking techniques, choreography and use of lenses to create interesting backgrounds and settings. Practical effects used back then are quite dated, but practical effects used today looks so much better than CGI, take Interstellar as an example. The spaceships were all filmed as models in different sizes in different lighting. CGI would most likely not make it look equally great. CGI is not cheap though, even if it is used a lot. So, to me that is a bit counter-intuitive. In any case, glad to hear from a fellow cinephile. : )
The problem with recent Terminator films, as well as recent Alien films (that includes Alien Romulus), is that there is a lack of vulnerability towards the main female characters especially when it comes to fear and trauma. That's one of the reasons why we root for them.
The problem with everything these days is that most of the skills that humans had 30 years ago have been lost to laziness, apathy, greed and a whole bunch of other negative nouns.
Great summing up, although I'd take James Cameron's explanation as to where he got the story idea with a pinch of salt. Cameron was a self-confessed fan of the sci-fi writer Harlan Ellison, who by strange coincidence wrote Outer Limits stories about soldiers from the future and a robot disguised as a human.
I believe Cameron. The only similarities are the aspects of time-travel. People like to sue those who are successful. People tried (unsuccessfully) suing Cameron for AVATAR (2009).
@@DialloMoore503 But not the 'robot disguised as a human?' As for Avatar: "Call Me Joe by Poul Anderson is a science fiction novella about a disabled man who remotely controls an artificial life-form to explore Jupiter's surface. The story was published in 1957 and has been anthologized in The Science Fiction Hall of Fame, Volume Two. The story takes place in a future where humans are unable to descend to Jupiter's surface due to the planet's extreme environment. A prototype synthetic life-form is created to explore the planet, and a severely disabled human remotely controls it using psionics. The artificial life-form resembles a centaur and is inserted among the planet's native life-forms." Probably not enough to sue Cameron but it's worth noting that failing to successfully sue someone doesn't mean they didn't lift your idea.
Yeah ok. Maybe he stole the terminator idea, I don't know. But the sinking of a huge cruise liner in 1912 was 100% from a dream he had while he was sick.🤪
I’ll never forget seeing this movie in 1984 with my friend Tommy in the Kings plaza mall in Brooklyn. I was only 8 years old and instantly hooked. After the movie was over I knew a part 2 was going to be made and sure enough when I watched the trailers on the newly released VHS of Total Recall there it was, T2 teaser. Oh man, what greatness that was
My favorite scene in the whole movie is Tech Noir scene. The one after Sarah calls the apartment for Ginger's help. I love how the Terminator shows up to the club so quickly. Hearing "Burning in the third Degree" fade into Brad Fiedel's perfectly haunting score. I first saw this movie when I was either three or four years old and it has been my favorite movie ever since. The vhs is the best format or any format that has the mono sound. The .45 longslide has a similar sound effect to that of the .44 Magnum from Dirty Harry. Even the music sounds better in mono. There are two heroes in this movie: Kyle Reese and that bottle of Canada Dry that Sarah knocked over. 😂
I fogive the jerky movements of the Terminator at the end of the movie as he had suffered heavy damage by that point. So even within the movie it makes sense. This and the sequel and two of the greatest sci-fi movies ever made in my opinion.
Your right. It actually didn't need but unfortunately the sequel turned out even better. The Terminator was more terrifying horror like, which i do prefer more.
Ultimately all the ingredients are there for a great franchise, unfortunately we haven't gotten much to jump for joy since T2. Incidentally I have enjoyed the Terminator Resistance video game and the recent Terminator Zero anime
Just watched this in a great presentation at an alamo drafthouse it felt absolutely fresh and better than anything hollywood could even dare put out today great movie maybe even better than judgement day
I think the money got to him, personally. He started to get up in his own ass too much, and stopped thinking like a scrappy young filmmaker trying to survive.
Many times in action/fiction movies it’s easy to forget about the cinematography (and the people beyond the writers/director/main actors) involved. Videos like this help us to remember what lies behind the action.
Only thing that lets it down from a believity standpoint is the Arnold model head when he removed his eye (which to be fair looks great with the sunglasses on just dodgy without) and the stop motion exoskeleton at the end.
The story kind of covered the jerkiness of the endoskeleton's movements at the end .. by the fact that it was somewhat damaged by the accident, explosion + fire that burnt off the human tissue
Its crazy that many of these great films had directors that had a limited budget and had to get creative and did not have all the funding in the world. Today movies and shows are getting 100 million, 500 million and 1 billion dollars to spend like crazy and they create shallow and forgettable films.
@@georgeboyd4619 I think it just depends what's important to each of us as fans. I bought Aliens 4K and watched it and thought it looked stunningly good. Loved it! Then I saw the reviews and went back and rewatched and yes, I saw the warped faces. The smoothing still wasn't super noticeable to my eyes. In the end, you just never would notice any of those issues, at least for me, in a normal watch through. As much as I'd prefer those issues be fixed, it is still the best I've ever seen that film by a long shot, since I never got to watch it in the theater.
But that beautiful mono soundtrack was replaced in later home video editions with guns that used to go "Bang! Bang! Bang!" suddenly changed to "Pew! Pew! Pew!"
I resynched the mono soundtrack to the bluray and it's definitely my preferred way to watch it. I love the intro scene in 5.1 but the gun sound effects aren't nearly as punchy in the new version. It may not be "accurate" but hearing every gunshot sound even from an AR sounding like Dirty Harry's magnum or a shotgun blast is viscerally satisfying. If I recall they changed the gun sounds on Scarface too but haven't gone about fixing my copy yet.
It's a fucking masterpiece. Modern Hollywood spends hundreds of millions on films that are forgotten in a week - Cameron created something that will live forever. I want the 80's back!
as you said the movie was recorded in mono, through my headphones I clearly heard stereo sound from the action scenes (plasma gun shots) in the background.
No, Cameron stole the idea from an Outer Limits episode called Soldier by writer Harlan Ellison. Same premise of time travel, ruined future, starring Martin Landau..........Cameron had to give credit to the Outer Limits in the home releases of The Terminator......before any credits: "Acknowledgment to the Works of Harlan Ellison."
A machine intelligence out to destroy.mankind also featured in Ellison's work 'I have no mouth yet I must scream' It was called AM. Allied Mastercomputer
The clunky movements at the end made perfect sense to me. The Terminator had just been through an explosion that would have scrapped any other machine, so I wouldn't expect it to still be moving perfectly smoothly. That it was still moving at all was impressive and terrifying
James Cameron has only made movies that age very very well. That said I would say the first terminator holds up the LEAST out of all of his movies special effects-wise but even in terms of being rewatchable. Aliens and T2 I would say are better examples of what you described and are PEAK Cameron. Indeed though Terminator was incredibly good and holds up very well, if Terminator looks like a billion(which it absolutely does not) then what are Aliens and T2, Quadrillions? lol seriously though the special effects in Aliens and T2 are absolutely perfect even today whereas sadly the scenes of the actual Terminator stop motion scenes and that god-awful fake head when his eye is damaged do stick out like a sore thumb. Aliens I cant think of a single moment that sticks out as looking particularly fake even now. T2 the liquid metal doesn't look perfect and is relatively low poly compared to how those effects would be done today, but because of the nature of the liquid metal, it does still look shockingly good.
Terminator 84 takes itself more seriously then its sequel but the sequel doesnt indulge itself too much , its right on the VERY EDGE where it allows itself to take some freedom , this is why Terminator 2 is considered one of the greatest sequel of all time, sadly sequels past the 2000 miss this and they end up changing the tone of the continuity. Alot of people miss that movies pre 90s take themselves very seriously , heck even Batman 1966 as campy as it is , the characters inside the show take the matters and tone very seriously despite the actions /resolve being very silly to the audience. In each genre , the tone is very dark for the movies and even in comedies who are almost non existent of "self awareness" which is a good thing because very little movies/shows work with that humour ,sadly too many shows today present that kind of humor and ruins the immersion , movies today feels like im watching a TH-cam skit from 2012. Terminator 84 happens to be right at the change of tone in movies ,alot more humour is allowed after 82-83 but even then its within margin of its own genre, like original Ghostbusters , ,Beverly Hills and cracks of "self aware comedy " is shown around 86 era like Evil dead 2 (since the original takes itself seriously), which comes around Bettlejuice , Bill and Ted in 89 which works amazing same as Wayne's world in 92.
The first movie for me personally is the perfect sci-fi film and is a must watch.The main cast is stellar especially Micheal Biehn who just killed it and the story feels so distanced yet so close to
To be fair we only see the Endoskeleton after the skin gets burnt away. It wouldn't surprise me if there was some heat expansion and contraction along with other bits of damage catching up with the Terminator by that point. Moving less than smoothly might be expected.
I just (fully) watched The Terminator a couple of months ago. It was such a good story. It does not look like a billion bucks, but it is a timeless movie.
I recently watched the Terminator and forgot how brutal the TechNior scene was. That stuff happens for real now. Think the Las Vegas shooting and the Pulse nightclub shooting in Florida
A lot of that blue hue wasnt the film. They shot the night scenes on streets that still had mercury vapor lights that LA was fazing out at the time, which gave off a cool blue hue. The film he used may have just ampliied it.
Terminator 2 was on in the local cinema the other week, went to watch it and it’s a movie that will always hold up, it looks fantastic, it’s a perfect example of how movies should be made and shot, imagine how much better movies would look if they still shot on locations and used minimal cgi, early cgi was so much better because it was mainly used for very small touch ups, now it’s used to do everything and it looks terrible, even when some cgi looks amazing in a shot it’s let down by the rest of the background and other cgi images being poor.
My wife, 35, has never been fan of movies in general, doesn´t even like tv that much except for some shows from time to time. So she never saw the Terminator and only knew the name without knowing what it's about. So one day when we were doing nothing I played the movie for her, she was like Oh well it's just to pass some time before dinner, at the end she was like OMG, and even asked to see the second one.
This dark retro aesthetic of Terminator was never duplicated there in making T2 fun not as moody and more like a cool MTV music video with nice sfx. T2 never felt like the same universe and I would kill to see a sequel back in the 80s with modern syhthwave and sfx !!!!
Off topic a bit...but if a t-800 was actually built to function as we see in the movies would it cost close to a billion to make 1st few? Or maybe just one would costs over a billion to make?
the only thing that looks off is the terminator walking when its skins blown off... that stop motion doesn't , quite look right but you can throw that down to all the damage its taken through the movie ifn ya need to
Cameron didn't actually get to meaningfully direct the Pirannah movie. He was taken advantage of. He tried to get his name removed from the credits but they would not comply.
I know Stan Winston Studio are geniuses with practical effects, make-up prosthetics and animatronics, but I was sort of disappointed they didn't just x-ray Arnold Schwarzenegger head-to-toe to get a 1:1 print of his bones and fabricate a metallic Terminator endoskeleton based off his real skeleton and proportions. I guess that was too big an ask at the time as x-ray prints were not cheap and the film budget was tight.
"in the 80s, CGI had not yet existed" on contraire, CGI absolutely existed and was used in the first star wars movie (1978) for things like the laser scenes. It will still in its early phases though and still not practical for making thing like full movie characters
A true shame that Cameron is way past his expiration date. He once was a really good director with original ideas. Now he just produces literal slop like Avatar.
Avatar and all its subsequent releases will still be lauded with praise as opposed to the recent Megaflopolis by old timer Francis Ford Coppola. What a disgrace of a movie. Avoid it like the plague. I'd watch Terminator XIVCIIXVV over that drivel again.
@@r.davidsen What? No. Nobody is taking about Avatar. When was the last time you discussed Avatar rather than Terminator with someone? They are utterly forgettable movies.
A lot of credit must be given to Michael Biehn for his intense performance. He embodies the soldier from a nightmare future.
and he did it twice (Aliens)
I wrote that on another video. The entire movie’s success absolutely _depends_ on the audience suspending their disbelief and believing in the truth of Biehn’s character. The audience must _feel_ the jeopardy that Sarah’s life is in and the future of humanity.
If the performance was ho-hum, people would have thought it was an “interesting” movie, conceptually and in special effects, but that’s it. It may have been considered one of those 80’s movies that straddled between an “A” and “B” movie. T-2 may have been made, but at a lower budget.
Even rewatching it, I totally buy into his character.
very true, he played that role like it was all real
He's great in everything he's in. Very underrated actor, I love him in Tombstone.
Totally agreed. Michael Biehn is an excellent actor. In my opinion, the best actor in the movie.
Its been 40 years. We still got no phased plasma rifle in da 40 wattt range!
ikr whats up with that!
Even we haven’t it conceptually
Ackchyually, that tech exists, but it was found to be too impractical, too unpredictable, and too expensive.
@@judsongaiden9878 r u serious?? Really?
Hey, just what you see pal!
Terminator 1 & 2 are still shockingly good.
Best movie duology of all times!
@@Zed-fq3lj Can't someone go back in time and prevent all the other bullshit Terminator movies from being made! 😂
Nothing shocking about it.
Not shocking at all. It's called talent and creativity.
One of the Greatest Movies ever, Followed by an Even Greater Sequel!
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The writing and editing in Terminator makes it feel like it is so much more expensive than it is. The Tech Noir scene is perfectly paced and edited, the sound when the Terminator finds her and is just about to plug her perfection.
The editing isn’t perfect at all.
Sarah stares at an infrared beam that’s pointed at her forehead. Cameron holds on that shot for way too long.
@@DialloMoore503 OK, you're better than Cameron, very impressive.
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Cameron is my favorite director, and this is one of my favorite films of all time. But that part always bugged me.
@DialloMoore503 except it's not infrared..
You do realize that (A) she’s in shock, and (B) this film came out in the mid-80’s, long before every tactiKEWL rifle had a laser on it… right? Troops going into Iraq in 1991 didn’t even have them yet. That was an incredibly high tech piece of equipment for that era and she didn’t seem to know anything about guns anyway.
The Terminator is also such an incredibly efficient piece of screenwriting. I'll give you one example.
Early in the movie, there's a scene when Reese drifts off into sleep and has a remembered dream/nightmare about something that happened to him in the future war. He’s out with a female soldier, and they’re trying to take down an HK tank with an explosive charge of some kind. They succeed, but the soldier is vaporized in the process. Reese flees to a jury-rigged car with a top mounted plasma cannon. He drives it away while another resistance soldier mans the cannon. A flying HK approaches, hits them, and the car flips. As flames rise up and he tries to free himself, yelling in pain, Reese in 1984 snaps out of the memory and wakes up.
What is this scene doing? Several things. First it gives us a glimpse of the future war, the deadly grimness of the world, how tough the fight is. It shows us how Reese got the burn scars we'll see later. It shows that women fight alongside the men, and that when Reese tells later than the women in his time are “good fighters”, he means it. Everybody fights.
But the really subtle and clever thing the scene does is that *it shows us Reese driving a car*, making use of it as a weapon of war. Without this scene, our brains would be bothered by the fridge logic of a man transported from a post apocalyptic world where humanity seems to spend most of its time hiding underground, yet being able to drive a car with competence around the streets of L.A. For a movie with several major car chases it’s vital that we don’t question this. Because of this one scene, the danger that we won’t accept it is headed off at the pass. You never even question it, and you probably don’t realize why.
That is great screenwriting.
Great observation.
Wonderful observation and comment. It's so rare to find good comments like this on TH-cam nowadays. Most of the comments are "Who's watching this in 2024" or people trying to show off that they are experts in everything.
That's one of Cameron's greatest strengths as a director and screenwriter. He rarely wastes time in his films, every scene is doing multiple things, conveying vital information on multiple levels to the viewer.
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Great comment and I'll add (perhaps irrelevantly) that my favorite piece of exposition in the movie is when Kyle is being questioned about how the time machine works and he's like, "I don't know! I didn't build the effing thing!" It was such a perfectly dismissive way to tell the audience not to overthink the tech as it's not what's important
The Terminator was a VHS rental favourite...
If you know you know
To say nothing of the actual theatres.
Same with T II !
The first time I watched Terminator 2: Judgement Day was from a DVD rental I got from Blockbuster back when I was like around 9ish (This was around like a year or so before Blockbuster started shutting down due to going out of business)
Beta too
I love the simplicity of T1. It's that same simplicity you see in the original alien. It's a horror film where characters are being stalked by something that is not human. But given a high concept twist. A recent movie that was hugely successful which followed this formula is The remake of the Invisible man. A vulnerable woman is stalked by a killer who uses technology to make him invisible.
People say its simply a action scifi slasher flick,
I say its a brutally efficient romance movie
It's also the best "single timeline with a loop" movie ever made. Unfortunately, all the subsequent movies switch to a different set of rules, allowing time travellers to change the future. The whole point of the first movie is that history wasn't changed at all - there was never any version of 1984 without both Reese and the terminator being present in L.A.
@@mattburnett4185it's a tech noir.
@@anaussie213 a tech noir with a night club called 'Tech Noir'.
@ yep the genre named after the nightclub.
The difference is in the passion, finding your way around challenges, giving time to the things. No studio mandates.
Movies nowadays, are just assembled in the ford assembly model. The artists are overworked art is lost.
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40 yrs later & this is still my favorite movie of all time. So much so I bought a 6"2' endo skeleton of this Terminator that greets everyone who walks into my house.
The movies before CGI will never be watched the same way again. Back then, there was no expectation or anticipation of CGI being used even just as duct tape to clean up a shot or enhance a practical effect. What you saw on camera, actually existed. Instead of wondering whether or not something was CGI, you just saw a robot wearing human skin that couldn't be killed with bullets. Utterly terrifying, and magical.
If something can be made real, or in camera real size, then make it. If it is impossible to build some kind of prop, need to evaluate script is it believable in first place.
Sometimes, fake is required. That is when we need miniatures, composite, painting, CGI etc. but there is risk that they are overused and that can break illusion.
CGI isn't automatically bad. It is easily best tool for the job when need to do some zero gravity or something where scale is too large for proper miniature. Problem is that instead of crafting perfect shots, they started to use CGI to save costs. Early days of CGI in cinema it was very expensive and shots were crafted carefully. However in television CGI was always tool to save costs but that way to do stuff was also adopted in cinema very quickly.
Which is why the Star Wars original trilogy is still mind blowing. The space fleet battle over Endor is unfathomable for 1983, I still can’t believe what they were able to accomplish.
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Showing alien planet from space or spacecrafts is the thing where CGI is best tool for the job.
Human eye is the most sensitive for "motion field", spatial resolution in luminance is next important thing and colors are way behind those. That means that physics and light interactions, like casting shadows on moving objects correctly is important. And miniatures really suck on zero gravity stuff.
Babylon 5 did very smart move to use CGI on insert shots and all space battles, even some backgrounds too. They use really low fidelity VFX and with enough RAM, rendering same shots with home computer was possible. It was cost optimization, but simultaneously they provide better visuals than many miniature space battles.
I love wondering 'how did they do that?'
Resorting to nothing but CGI takes away that engagement.
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Analog way is that we can manipulate image by layers. We can make one layer as projected backdrop or painting, we can put miniature models front of it, or we can capture them against bluescreen and use that as new layer.
Digital effects make possible to manipulate parts of layer in "pixel level". Analog way was glass painting but that can't be animated. Or draw some lasers by hand to film frames.
The space fleet battle over Endor back in 1983 looks pretty bad these days. CGI can make zero gravity physics work correctly, ships cast casts shadows correctly, lights work correctly, and space craft can actually hit to other space craft without looking garbage. It is amazing that 10 years later home computers were capable doing better shots to space battles what we saw in Star Wars VI, except that they were rendered at television resolution.
So there are very good use for CGI. Like those zero gravity things, large scale stuff that are infeasible with miniatures, creating alien planet by changing sky color and adding two moons there, removing wires, dinosaurs... So while bad CGI ruins stuff, I also like CGI.
I miss those scifi series from 90s, and early 00s that use new tool for good, telling stories that were too expensive to make before CGI.
Terminator 2 is first Hollywood move that I ever saw, I was a kid and we used to have this VCR in our home and we used to watch it often. The ending scene to this day is a very emotional one and Im 30 year old!
To me this is the greatest movie of Arnold Schwarzneggar
I just watch T2 the other day. T-1000 is still a fucking psychopath. The ending is brutal, a family getting torn apart. Sarah learn to trust The Machine. The Machine learn what it means to be Human. John learns what Sacrifice & Family means. Jim Cameron's finest hour by a country mile.
T2 is the first R-rated movie I ever saw. The shootings, stabbings and explosions were glorious for my 13-year old self.
It's usually said "creativity thrives in a box". The limitations makes people have to find solutions that end up making the movies better. There are several movies from the 80's and 90's that became better because they had to work around the limitations. Examples like Terminator, Jaws and Alien prove this.
That’s okay if you’re just starting out. But a filmmaker’s entire career shouldn’t be based around budget constraints.
Why not? David Lynch has always been budget planner, exception being Dune.
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If there are no budget or other constraints, it is good idea to set some constraints artificially. That seems to help creativity and result seems to be... better.
Another brilliant film that used no CGI and was a master piece was 'The Thing'
Agreed!
Oh 100 percent. The Thing is still my favorite horror movie of all time, and easily one of my top 5 movies ever.
Absolutely.
One of if not, my favorite horror film of all time.
What does it best for me, is that EVERYTHING about the monster you see in the film, exists in the real world. You can touch it, and it can touch you.
When the cameras turn off and filming is done for the day, the prop monster is still there, in physical space.
Same goes for the Chuckie doll, and Bruce the shark, from Jaws.
The Xenomorph from Alien.
If by some freak accident, a magical lightning bolt struck the prop and gave it life, we already gave it a body.
I am sure Childs was the Thing at the end and he was drinking a moletov cocktail. MaCready knew this and thats why he laughed.
Just recently rewatched T1. What a classic!
Me as well. Linda Hamilton was a stunner! 😍
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It never gets boring!
it's a masterpiece, the low budget gritty atmosphere, the dark brooding music and tension created during the tech noir scene, all make it such a thrilling chase movie with a horror tone. My number one movie of all time, I'll never get sick of it.
2:46 The OP was wrong here. The exoskeleton acted clunky only because it was limping due to being struck by a heavy truck on the highway. You wouldn't think James Cameron missed that detail, would you?
The "mask" had also disintegrated at that point, so there was also no need for it to blend in anymore. This means it could reasonably terminate the process responsible for convincing human mannerisms specifically to devote full processing power toward completing its objectives.
Combined with the possibility if damage done to actual mechanical components, the jankiness makes perfect sense.
00:48 the terminator using his finger to highlight the line in the phonebook is great 😂
It makes me sad that many great directors of the 80s and 90s have lost their way, like Cameron and Ridley Scott.
The first movie I had ever owned on DVD was the 2001 Special Edition of The Terminator. My parents bought it for me for my birthday, I was 6 at the time lol.
0:02 is terrifying.
And also Arnold's longtime friend Franco Columbu
It's amazing that Mr Franco is still the only guy other than Arnold (or the likeness of Arnold) to play a T-800 model terminator.
If we could only go back to these styles of movies =[
Film was used. It was very expensive to use. Everything was meticulously planned before a shot. Not so much anymore with digital cameras. You can do whatever you want in a short amount of time, and you can do it over and over countless of times for no additional cost than overtime pay. Also, film is analogue. 35mm can be upscaled to 8K and above with no problem. 65 mm even more so. And honestly, the aesthetic of film and the lenses used at the time was better and of higher quality. It looks more cinematic than equipment of today.
@@r.davidsenon a similar note, I think the ease and cheapness of CGI became an unfortunate crutch for, well…everything.
When effects were painstakingly practically done, you did it right and you did it sparingly. I’m so sick of gratuitous CGI nowadays, it’s boring and bad.
@@SheilaPatterson You're right. CGI is used for almost everything nowadays, as is green screens. This reduces depth of field in many scenes, not to mention a lack of use regarding interesting blocking techniques, choreography and use of lenses to create interesting backgrounds and settings.
Practical effects used back then are quite dated, but practical effects used today looks so much better than CGI, take Interstellar as an example. The spaceships were all filmed as models in different sizes in different lighting. CGI would most likely not make it look equally great. CGI is not cheap though, even if it is used a lot. So, to me that is a bit counter-intuitive.
In any case, glad to hear from a fellow cinephile. : )
T2 has aged INCREDIBLY well
So has T1
The problem with recent Terminator films, as well as recent Alien films (that includes Alien Romulus), is that there is a lack of vulnerability towards the main female characters especially when it comes to fear and trauma. That's one of the reasons why we root for them.
stwong inypendant womunz
The problem with everything these days is that most of the skills that humans had 30 years ago have been lost to laziness, apathy, greed and a whole bunch of other negative nouns.
@@hazchem1 Agreed, and it's only getting worse.
Your point is even stronger and more relevant if you remove the word female from it.
Romulus is not that much specialy on the scene where she fights xeno during non gravity mode she could be killed if not for andy.
This movie is proof that practical effects are the best effects.
Great summing up, although I'd take James Cameron's explanation as to where he got the story idea with a pinch of salt. Cameron was a self-confessed fan of the sci-fi writer Harlan Ellison, who by strange coincidence wrote Outer Limits stories about soldiers from the future and a robot disguised as a human.
And he sued Cameron's arse for that.
And yet, they feel nothing alike
I believe Cameron. The only similarities are the aspects of time-travel. People like to sue those who are successful. People tried (unsuccessfully) suing Cameron for AVATAR (2009).
@@DialloMoore503 But not the 'robot disguised as a human?' As for Avatar: "Call Me Joe by Poul Anderson is a science fiction novella about a disabled man who remotely controls an artificial life-form to explore Jupiter's surface. The story was published in 1957 and has been anthologized in The Science Fiction Hall of Fame, Volume Two. The story takes place in a future where humans are unable to descend to Jupiter's surface due to the planet's extreme environment. A prototype synthetic life-form is created to explore the planet, and a severely disabled human remotely controls it using psionics. The artificial life-form resembles a centaur and is inserted among the planet's native life-forms." Probably not enough to sue Cameron but it's worth noting that failing to successfully sue someone doesn't mean they didn't lift your idea.
Yeah ok. Maybe he stole the terminator idea, I don't know. But the sinking of a huge cruise liner in 1912 was 100% from a dream he had while he was sick.🤪
I’ll never forget seeing this movie in 1984 with my friend Tommy in the Kings plaza mall in Brooklyn. I was only 8 years old and instantly hooked. After the movie was over I knew a part 2 was going to be made and sure enough when I watched the trailers on the newly released VHS of Total Recall there it was, T2 teaser. Oh man, what greatness that was
My favorite scene in the whole movie is Tech Noir scene. The one after Sarah calls the apartment for Ginger's help. I love how the Terminator shows up to the club so quickly. Hearing "Burning in the third Degree" fade into Brad Fiedel's perfectly haunting score. I first saw this movie when I was either three or four years old and it has been my favorite movie ever since. The vhs is the best format or any format that has the mono sound. The .45 longslide has a similar sound effect to that of the .44 Magnum from Dirty Harry. Even the music sounds better in mono.
There are two heroes in this movie: Kyle Reese and that bottle of Canada Dry that Sarah knocked over. 😂
I fogive the jerky movements of the Terminator at the end of the movie as he had suffered heavy damage by that point. So even within the movie it makes sense.
This and the sequel and two of the greatest sci-fi movies ever made in my opinion.
A respectful yet witty and funny review of a Legendary film? YES!
Thanks! you sir got a subscriber!
You should breakdown why Thief 1981 Michael Mann film looks so good.
Now this was a great video. Thanks for all the insights!
Love terminator 1 and 2. Adore The Abyss - it has sooo many iconic scenes. It is a shame so few people know about it
The soundtrack was lit 🔥
Yeah The Terminator has an incredible soundtrack
That synthesizer track when their running is still amazing to listen to!
Great time to rewatch the first 2!
It’s always a great time for that!
My favorite movie of all time. And it never needed a sequel.
Your right.
It actually didn't need but unfortunately the sequel turned out even better.
The Terminator was more terrifying horror like, which i do prefer more.
@@ravurmovie I wouldn't say even better - I think what you mean is that it was just more popular and made more money.
Ultimately all the ingredients are there for a great franchise, unfortunately we haven't gotten much to jump for joy since T2. Incidentally I have enjoyed the Terminator Resistance video game and the recent Terminator Zero anime
@@ravurmoviesequel is just as good. I don't think it's better.
Masterpiece ❤🔥
Awesome video, well done buddy 👍🏻😎
Just watched this in a great presentation at an alamo drafthouse
it felt absolutely fresh and better than anything hollywood could even dare put out today
great movie maybe even better than judgement day
Lucky you!
I recently rewatched the original Terminator, it's still an awesome movie.
When he looked himself at the mirror, that always looked bad 😂.
Now, T2 indeed still looks amazing.
Disagree. Its movements are mechanical and robotic. It fit just fine within the context of the narrative.
Jim lost his mojo after 1997.
I think the money got to him, personally. He started to get up in his own ass too much, and stopped thinking like a scrappy young filmmaker trying to survive.
low-budget guerilla filmmaking brought out his best.
Many times in action/fiction movies it’s easy to forget about the cinematography (and the people beyond the writers/director/main actors) involved.
Videos like this help us to remember what lies behind the action.
the “I’ll be back” scene is a perfect example of the Uncanny Valley phenomenon. Arnold sounds like a robot trying to sound like a human. great flic 🔥
Great review.
The Terminator 4K
is a must have.
Only thing that lets it down from a believity standpoint is the Arnold model head when he removed his eye (which to be fair looks great with the sunglasses on just dodgy without) and the stop motion exoskeleton at the end.
1:41 I guess he dreamed about reading Soldier by Harlan Ellison....
The story kind of covered the jerkiness of the endoskeleton's movements at the end .. by the fact that it was somewhat damaged by the accident, explosion + fire that burnt off the human tissue
1:26 - 2nd most terrifying body builder of all time. I don’t get it. Who was the 1st???
Pumping Iron came out in 1977, so maybe it's a reference to Lou Feregno being the Hulk?
@nftminter7922 - It is indeed a reference to Lou Ferrigno as The Incredible Hulk, which premiered in 1977.
Obviously the 1st most terrifying body builder of all time has to go to Dr. Frankenstein.
Its crazy that many of these great films had directors that had a limited budget and had to get creative and did not have all the funding in the world.
Today movies and shows are getting 100 million, 500 million and 1 billion dollars to spend like crazy and they create shallow and forgettable films.
My fav horror film of all time followed by the best sequel of all time.
JC still flexing on modern studios with these two absolute bangers
4K version coming out in Nov!!
Yes 😎
It's not gonna be as good as blue ray. Too much ai smoothing and loss of movie grain. Check out 4k aliens review to understand what fans are saying
@@georgeboyd4619 I think it just depends what's important to each of us as fans. I bought Aliens 4K and watched it and thought it looked stunningly good. Loved it! Then I saw the reviews and went back and rewatched and yes, I saw the warped faces. The smoothing still wasn't super noticeable to my eyes. In the end, you just never would notice any of those issues, at least for me, in a normal watch through. As much as I'd prefer those issues be fixed, it is still the best I've ever seen that film by a long shot, since I never got to watch it in the theater.
Conan 4k was amazing!
But that beautiful mono soundtrack was replaced in later home video editions with guns that used to go "Bang! Bang! Bang!" suddenly changed to "Pew! Pew! Pew!"
I resynched the mono soundtrack to the bluray and it's definitely my preferred way to watch it. I love the intro scene in 5.1 but the gun sound effects aren't nearly as punchy in the new version. It may not be "accurate" but hearing every gunshot sound even from an AR sounding like Dirty Harry's magnum or a shotgun blast is viscerally satisfying. If I recall they changed the gun sounds on Scarface too but haven't gone about fixing my copy yet.
Very nice video, I actually learnt some new things. But please do look up the pronunciation of "ethereal" (4:21).
Your move breakdown.. always inspiring. Thank bro 🇰🇼
You’re welcome!
It's a fucking masterpiece. Modern Hollywood spends hundreds of millions on films that are forgotten in a week - Cameron created something that will live forever.
I want the 80's back!
as you said the movie was recorded in mono, through my headphones I clearly heard stereo sound from the action scenes (plasma gun shots) in the background.
5:08 at first I thought he said train tracks but he said chain tracks. I think he meant caterpillar tracks…
No, Cameron stole the idea from an Outer Limits episode called Soldier by writer Harlan Ellison. Same premise of time travel, ruined future, starring Martin Landau..........Cameron had to give credit to the Outer Limits in the home releases of The Terminator......before any credits: "Acknowledgment to the Works of Harlan Ellison."
A machine intelligence out to destroy.mankind also featured in Ellison's work 'I have no mouth yet I must scream'
It was called AM. Allied Mastercomputer
Yup. Nothing like T1 & T2. And "The Abyss" is one of my favorite films ever.
I rewatched it for the first time in a few years and I didn't look at my phone once. It's just too good.
The clunky movements at the end made perfect sense to me. The Terminator had just been through an explosion that would have scrapped any other machine, so I wouldn't expect it to still be moving perfectly smoothly. That it was still moving at all was impressive and terrifying
Excellent take on an excellent movie!
James Cameron has only made movies that age very very well. That said I would say the first terminator holds up the LEAST out of all of his movies special effects-wise but even in terms of being rewatchable. Aliens and T2 I would say are better examples of what you described and are PEAK Cameron. Indeed though Terminator was incredibly good and holds up very well, if Terminator looks like a billion(which it absolutely does not) then what are Aliens and T2, Quadrillions? lol seriously though the special effects in Aliens and T2 are absolutely perfect even today whereas sadly the scenes of the actual Terminator stop motion scenes and that god-awful fake head when his eye is damaged do stick out like a sore thumb. Aliens I cant think of a single moment that sticks out as looking particularly fake even now. T2 the liquid metal doesn't look perfect and is relatively low poly compared to how those effects would be done today, but because of the nature of the liquid metal, it does still look shockingly good.
Best sci film ever thriller. Everything is spot on. Almost a horror film to be honest. Best terminator film
Terminator 84 takes itself more seriously then its sequel but the sequel doesnt indulge itself too much , its right on the VERY EDGE where it allows itself to take some freedom , this is why Terminator 2 is considered one of the greatest sequel of all time, sadly sequels past the 2000 miss this and they end up changing the tone of the continuity.
Alot of people miss that movies pre 90s take themselves very seriously , heck even Batman 1966 as campy as it is , the characters inside the show take the matters and tone very seriously despite the actions /resolve being very silly to the audience.
In each genre , the tone is very dark for the movies and even in comedies who are almost non existent of "self awareness" which is a good thing because very little movies/shows work with that humour ,sadly too many shows today present that kind of humor and ruins the immersion , movies today feels like im watching a TH-cam skit from 2012.
Terminator 84 happens to be right at the change of tone in movies ,alot more humour is allowed after 82-83 but even then its within margin of its own genre, like original Ghostbusters , ,Beverly Hills and cracks of "self aware comedy " is shown around 86 era like Evil dead 2 (since the original takes itself seriously), which comes around Bettlejuice , Bill and Ted in 89 which works amazing same as Wayne's world in 92.
The first movie for me personally is the perfect sci-fi film and is a must watch.The main cast is stellar especially Micheal Biehn who just killed it and the story feels so distanced yet so close to
To be fair we only see the Endoskeleton after the skin gets burnt away. It wouldn't surprise me if there was some heat expansion and contraction along with other bits of damage catching up with the Terminator by that point. Moving less than smoothly might be expected.
The close ups are smooth though. Not that it matters, the jerkiness was creepy.
This movie on Blu Ray alone looks fantastic!
3:36-3:37 From which scene is this?
T.V. Guide from 1991 listed The Terminator with 1 1/2 stars out of 4. Taste and expectation back then was fkn weird.
T1 and T2 are two of the greatest sci fi films ever. Too bad I don't like Cameron. But I still watch these 2.
I just (fully) watched The Terminator a couple of months ago. It was such a good story. It does not look like a billion bucks, but it is a timeless movie.
I recently watched the Terminator and forgot how brutal the TechNior scene was. That stuff happens for real now. Think the Las Vegas shooting and the Pulse nightclub shooting in Florida
There has still never been a woman as gorgeous as Linda Hamilton in her prime
A lot of that blue hue wasnt the film. They shot the night scenes on streets that still had mercury vapor lights that LA was fazing out at the time, which gave off a cool blue hue. The film he used may have just ampliied it.
Cameron apparently insisted on a higher quality filmstock to allow for a higher quality transfer to VHS.
Terminator 2 was on in the local cinema the other week, went to watch it and it’s a movie that will always hold up, it looks fantastic, it’s a perfect example of how movies should be made and shot, imagine how much better movies would look if they still shot on locations and used minimal cgi, early cgi was so much better because it was mainly used for very small touch ups, now it’s used to do everything and it looks terrible, even when some cgi looks amazing in a shot it’s let down by the rest of the background and other cgi images being poor.
My wife, 35, has never been fan of movies in general, doesn´t even like tv that much except for some shows from time to time. So she never saw the Terminator and only knew the name without knowing what it's about. So one day when we were doing nothing I played the movie for her, she was like Oh well it's just to pass some time before dinner, at the end she was like OMG, and even asked to see the second one.
Filmmaking used to be an art. Now it's only an industry
Sometimes it's been art, but it's always been an industry.
Please make a video about the T-1000 CGI from T2 cause the CGI and PRACTICAL EFFECTS still look way better than EFFECTS in Movies and TV today!!!!
Excellent 👍
This dark retro aesthetic of Terminator was never duplicated there in making T2 fun not as moody and more like a cool MTV music video with nice sfx. T2 never felt like the same universe and I would kill to see a sequel back in the 80s with modern syhthwave and sfx !!!!
I'm still waiting for Alien and Aliens 😁
Damn, I remember when movies used to have lighting and colour and intelligible dialogue...
I love these movies! We need another great Terminator, but it's really hard without relying on Arnold
Off topic a bit...but if a t-800 was actually built to function as we see in the movies would it cost close to a billion to make 1st few? Or maybe just one would costs over a billion to make?
the endo's jerky movements are due to him being shot, burnt, rolled over... try that on your iPhone and see if even works
the only thing that looks off is the terminator walking when its skins blown off... that stop motion doesn't , quite look right but you can throw that down to all the damage its taken through the movie ifn ya need to
Many do, but in the end, you prevail against them because it's hard to watch. Still a prosrine film, though.
The Terminator didnt became a box office succes when it came out. It was a success when it was released on VHS and then it became a big hit.
The best ones in the series to this day.
Cameron didn't actually get to meaningfully direct the Pirannah movie. He was taken advantage of. He tried to get his name removed from the credits but they would not comply.
I know Stan Winston Studio are geniuses with practical effects, make-up prosthetics and animatronics, but I was sort of disappointed they didn't just x-ray Arnold Schwarzenegger head-to-toe to get a 1:1 print of his bones and fabricate a metallic Terminator endoskeleton based off his real skeleton and proportions. I guess that was too big an ask at the time as x-ray prints were not cheap and the film budget was tight.
Most terrifying body builder of all time (1977)? I assume Lou Ferrigno in The Incredible Hulk.
Yeah, I was curious too. Lou Ferrigno is likely
Still my favourite movie ever to this day.
In other words Terminator 1 is a complete masterpiece. I actually liked it better than Terminator 2.
"unlucky enough to be finally chased by two broke guys wearing stolen clothes" is hilarious
"in the 80s, CGI had not yet existed" on contraire, CGI absolutely existed and was used in the first star wars movie (1978) for things like the laser scenes. It will still in its early phases though and still not practical for making thing like full movie characters
A true shame that Cameron is way past his expiration date. He once was a really good director with original ideas. Now he just produces literal slop like Avatar.
Avatar and all its subsequent releases will still be lauded with praise as opposed to the recent Megaflopolis by old timer Francis Ford Coppola. What a disgrace of a movie. Avoid it like the plague. I'd watch Terminator XIVCIIXVV over that drivel again.
What's truly sad is Cameron teaming up with a generative AI company that is facing multiple lawsuits.
“Either you die young enough to be a Master Filmmaker for all of Time, or you live long enough to succumb to your Ego.”
@@r.davidsen What? No. Nobody is taking about Avatar. When was the last time you discussed Avatar rather than Terminator with someone? They are utterly forgettable movies.
What? No! When was the last time you discussed the plot of Avatar rather than Terminator? Never happens. These movies are utterly irrelevant.
T1 scared the crap out of me as a kid. T2 was just a bad ass action masterpiece that still hasn’t been topped to date
This was my favorite movie In kindergarten, couldn’t tell me I wasn’t the terminator 😅
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