IndiaFoxtEcho T45 Goshawk | Full Review | Full Flight | Microsoft Flight Simulator 2020 |
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In this video we take a look at the T45 Goshawk by IndiaFoxtEcho for Microsoft Flight Simulator.
We'll take the aircraft on a short flight off the deck of a United States Navy "Nimitz Class" aircraft carrier, head over to the Island of Kahului to put the aircraft through its paces and then return back to the carrier for a landing on the deck!
Artist: audionautix.com/
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PC Specs
ASUS B150M-A
Intel Core i7 6700K 4GHz
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080
32GB DDR4 2133MHz
Hardware
Thrustmaster HOTAS Warthog
Saitek Pro Flight rudder pedals
HP Reverb WMR headset
TrackIR5
Earthquake Shell Shoxx transducer
Enjoy the flight! - เกม
Reviews are not supposed to be commercials, you are fair in yours and point out the Pro and Cons. great one cheers!
Thanks very much Pedro!
Indeed they shouldn’t be. It can be a bit of a tricky balance though; I don’t want to denigrate peoples work unnecessarily, but of course I feel my primary concern is my audience. So I try to provide balanced and accurate feedback, that’s fair to both sides.
That’s why I like to try and do everything “by the book” as well. That way, if something doesn’t work, the developer can’t really feel too hard done by, as I’m just pointing out something that doesn’t work as it would in the aircraft. I try my best to be objective anyway (of course there are always some things that are purely subjective though).
Anyway, I’m very happy to hear that you feel the reviews are fair and to the point. That’s certainly the aim.
Thanks very much again and all the best to you! : )
I worked at NAS Meridian, I touch T-45C nose number 163 many times, that model is almost perfect, the only flaw I see is the pull down step, it comes straight down not at an angle. This is outstanding work, those intake and exhaust covers, look like the ones we took on detachments, outstanding.
Hi Thomas,
Amazing! Thanks for sharing the story and great to hear India Foxt Echo got it spot on! : )
Thank you so much for this video. Your channel has become my go-to resource for new planes!
Thank you very much Noel! Very kind of you to say : )
Not really the niche I had planned for myself when I started the channel, but I’ll take it haha!
Thanks lad! These guys are putting in the work and it's not a cheap portover like many of the other aircraft in the works
Thanks once again Brad, my pleasure!
Yeah, they certainly are! Particularly impressive from a smaller developer. A couple of adjustments as mentioned (and ideally a little more optimisation on the frames, although I suspect that might be rather more Asobos fault) and this product would be almost faultless! : )
I'm only a "sim pilot", and far from one who is yet into an awful lot of depth as far as operating any of the aircraft I've been flying in sims, but your reviews are the most balanced I've seen, as well as maintaining a level of objectivity not seen in most others here on TH-cam. They definitely will play a part in any aircraft I buy for the sim.
Thank you videotrexx, that’s very kind of you to say!
I didn’t really set out for the channel to be specifically geared towards reviews haha, but I seem to be finding my own little niche. I enjoy it and I like the challenge of learning a new aircraft etc, so it’s all good by me! I like to (try and) let the product speak for itself. I don’t want to unnecessarily denigrate someone’s hard work, ultimately developers need to put food on the table as well (and I don’t think most of them set out to make a bad product). But I figure, if I just operate the aircraft by the book and try and remain objective, the results will speak for themselves. People can then see if the product is worth their hard-earned money. I think it’s a fair approach all-round.
Glad you’re enjoying the content and welcome aboard! We’re all “sim pilots” here! ; )
Thank you again for a very well done review. I purchased the plane a couple of days ago and do enjoy it. I managed to get the plane running from just memory of having the P3D version a few years ago.
I would like to also praise you on the professional way you present your videos, so may creators present a review by starting from scratch the first time they start the plane up and work it out on the fly (sorry about the pun). You however appear to do some research before hand an can present in a very fluid way. Thank you again.
Thanks very much Anton! Glad to hear you’re enjoying the Goshawk.
It’s really nice to get positive feedback and people appreciating the review style. I certainly try and do my homework, had to put myself through a crash course on how to fly the Goshawk the other day haha (on that note; you must have a great memory if you managed to start it up, not having flown it in years!)
Ultimately I just figure it’s the fairest way to review a product. I’m not looking to bad mouth anybodies work unnecessarily, I don’t think most developers set out to make a bad product. Most put a lot of work in, even if the end result isn’t what we as simmers were hoping for (and they do need to earn a living as well). But I try my best to operate the aircraft by the book, that way if any issues occur, I can be somewhat more certain it’s a fault with the product and not user error (the developer can’t really feel too hard done by then). It also allows people to clearly see the fidelity of the product etc. To each their own of course, but I too find it a bit frustrating when a product gets reviewed off the cuff and you’re watching someone try and find a switch and you already know where it is etc etc haha. That being said, I am lucky enough to have a lot of free time at the moment and I know a lot of people don’t; so they probably don’t have the luxury of sitting down for half a day with a virtual Goshawk manual ha.
Anyway, really glad to hear you’re enjoying the content, thanks very much for your kind feedback once again. I shall endeavour to keep it up!
All the best : )
Loving the reviews! Really helps when it comes to deciding which aircraft to get. Keep it up!
Thanks very much Pieter, really glad the videos are proving useful! : )
Great review again and with all the new release aircraft incoming for MSFS , its great to have someone , such as yourself , to review them .
Yes , the exterior jet engine sounds did sound a bit peculiar ( actually , brought back memories of the sound that occurred when loading software , from a cassette player , into my Oric Atmos PC during the mid 1980s , LoL !! ) .
As regards the stall , the developers should have taken a look at the FlyingIron Sim Spitfire , probably the best aeroplane stall characteristics in the game at present !!
Really nice Jet otherwise !!
Thanks very much once again! Glad you’re still finding the reviews useful. It’s been a busy week or so for sure haha! : )
Yes, quite an odd sound isn’t it. I can’t attest to it sounding like an Oric Atmos, but I have a handheld vacuum cleaner that doesn’t sound dissimilar ha. It’s a shame, external sound doesn’t meet the standard of the rest of the product. As you say, otherwise it’s a really nice jet.
Indeed, I don’t know what FlyingIron did to get that stall behaviour and also those frame rates, I can only assume they’ve employed a wizard!
Just found your channel and I love it, keep up the good work.
Ah, well thanks very much! Really glad to hear you’re enjoying the content and welcome aboard : )
Thanks for the thorough review! Keep it up.
Thanks very much Spaverse, glad you liked it! Will do : )
This aircraft look pretty anwesome, the sound are great. Thanks for this review, :D
My pleasure! Glad you enjoyed it : )
Yeah, needs a few minor tweaks I think, but overall it’s a really nice product.
Cheers, all the best!
Thanks! It occurred to me I can thank you better as I've learned so much from you. Cheers! Keep 'em flyin'!
Thank you very much indeed MrS, that’s incredibly generous of you!
I’d be more than happy to extend channel membership “benefits” to you, as a token of my gratitude. If that’s of any interest, please email me at Intotheblueinbox@gmail.com and I’ll give you the details.
Either way, many thanks once again! It’s hugely appreciated and I’m really happy that you’re enjoying the content to such a degree : )
All the best!
MSFS aircraft is like a waiting for a bus...5 come at once! BTW I'm enjoying the JF PA-28
Does seem to be that way haha!
Really glad to hear you’re enjoying the JF PA28 : ) Haven’t actually had a chance to try the release version myself yet, but I’m definitely looking forward to it!
Fantastic Video. I can only just about land on a runway your doing it on a flight deck amazing and to think they do this in real life some awesome people.
Thanks Reece! : )
I don’t think the landing was particularly “textbook”, I think it was a bit fast etc, but it got the job done for the vid haha ; )
Indeed, amazing to think people get to do all this in real life, I must say I’m incredibly jealous!!
First time watching. Excellent review. Love how you flowed and showed off as much as you could! Crack on. Good stuff 👏
Thanks very much Casey, welcome to the channel then! : )
Really glad to hear you enjoyed it, I’ll try and keep em coming.
Cheers, all the best!
@@IntotheBlueSimulations Beautiful stuff! As you can see throughout the comments we all love your content! Simply keep going 🔥
Cheers man. Yeah, I always feel incredibly honoured to see that people appreciate the content! I enjoy TH-cam wither way, but of course it’s always nice and very much appreciated to get positive feedback : )
@@IntotheBlueSimulations Cherish your creations my man 💪🏾 Go Go! Produce. Create.
Another great well presented review. Thanks!
Thanks very much as always Jim! : )
Glad you enjoyed it. Its certainly been a busy week for reviews; especially given that I had to put myself through a crash course on how to fly the Goshawk as well haha.
Next stop, learn how to fly a CRJ. . .
All the best
Great reveiw , still the best reveiwer of MSFS products, very clear and very detailed and does his homework before recording. Although a good aircraft, I still find for me the Fiat is still my go to. For me the Goshawk still has a FSX look and feel about it, The cockpit mainly. I may hold off on this due to already haveing the Fiat, but I watched your reveiw because of the proffessionalism that always comes through in your reveiws. Thank you
Thanks very much Jim, I really appreciate it!
I certainly try and do my homework, put myself through a crash-course in how to fly a Goshawk yesterday haha, was good fun though. It’s funny how differently we all see things; I love the cockpit in the T45, in fact it’s my favourite thing about the aircraft haha. To each their own though of course! The Fiat is still a great jet, and frankly, it’s a lot more fun to fly.
I appreciate you watching the review, even if the jet isn’t your cup of tea. It certainly helps the channel : )
Thanks again and all the best!
No problem , well deserved. I must admit though I ended up purchasing the Goshawk and Spitfire, as expected both are very nice to use in the sim.
I look forward to your reveiw of the CRJ when its released.
Haha, uh oh. MSFS (and indeed all sims) can really become a bit of a money pit can’t they. . . I get a pang of guilt every time I buy “another” addon haha.
Yes, definitely looking forward to the CRJ myself! Been trying to study up for that one as well. . . Will hopefully have a review out in the next couple of days : )
All the best
Excellent review! Thank you. Very helpful.
Thanks very much Naj!
My pleasure! Glad you found it useful : )
All the best!
Thanks this works really good in msfs 2020. Thanks!
My pleasure! Glad you’re enjoying it : )
What a fantastic little training aircraft. Great for carrier landing training.
It is : )
We just need a “proper” carrier in MSFS now. But the SDK needs some work first I gather. . .
It’s nice as well, as you can fly it from the front or back. So I guess with the freeware shared cockpit tool, you genuinely could go off together and do some training etc.
Cheers
Lol my mate put me on to the quality of this aircraft by IFT and he sent me a link to this video which just so happened to be yours haha both you and him are going to become bad for my wallet haha
Amazing sounding and looking aircraft and as always great content thank you
Haha, well I’m chuffed I got a recommendation!
I blame your friend for the wallet issues though - I’m just providing the facts! : P
Glad you enjoyed the video. My pleasure as always! Thanks very much once again and all the best : )
Most noticeable at the start of the vid but you certainly seem to have that “pilots announcement voice” going on. Great 👍 content. Liked & subbed, I would love to see a video someday on the best version of the aircraft which is the British Aerospace systems T1 & T2 onwards. I also agree that it did seem a bit sluggish on the controls for what is the best team display aircraft in the world
Haha, thanks very much (I think) Mark! ; )
Really glad you’re enjoying the content and much appreciated. I would love to do a Hawk video at some point. I’m waiting for Just Flight to release theirs into MSFS. That should be great fun!
Yes, I’ve just been flying the VNAO T45 in DCS and the feel in the controls / responsiveness is just night and day from the IFE version. I can’t say for sure which one is more accurate (I suspect DCS), but the DCS version certainly feels much more like I would imagine the aircraft to feel.
Thanks very much for the sub, welcome aboard! : )
You have that IP voice that gives confidence. Subbed!
Thanks very much Matt! I’m must admit, I don’t know what “IP” is short for, but if you’ve subscribed, it can’t be all that bad haha? Cheers again and welcome aboard! : )
@@IntotheBlueSimulations Instructor Pilot!
Ahhh. I tried google, but needless to say it had some other suggestions for the abbreviation haha.
Ah, well thanks again Matt! Haven’t had the opportunity to instruct yet in the real world, but definitely something I’d like to do in due course. Glad I’ve got the voice down pat already ; )
All the best
Excellent review, as usual. Blackbird seem to be making some exciting models for the sim. Geography lesson: Kahului is a location on the island of Maui. Kaho'olawe, an island nearby, is used for military munitions training. Cheers!
Thank you very much Mr S, I’m glad you enjoyed it!
and thank you also for the polite geography lesson; I had a native Hawaiian get very stroppy with me, for not getting the exact locations and / or pronunciations correct (it always baffles me, that people think because something is familiar to them, it must be familiar to you also - I’m sure his pronunciation of 3rd tier Chinese cities is excellent haha XD)
All the best!
@@IntotheBlueSimulations I was a history/geography teacher in junior high/high school for over three decades. 'Austria is not Australia', 'Prussia is not Russia', 'Africa is not a nation' started the geography we'd need. I had to be nice in the face of traumatizing the padawans. I'd not dare to get gruff with you as you have great skills for this sim and are still not a egotist. That's why I'm here so much.
Haha well, it sounds like you were teaching back in the good old days, when geography the subject, still included lessons on. . . geography. I remember my geography teacher being genuinely appalled, that nobody could point out Egypt on a world map; I don’t think it had occurred to him that, between the lessons on basket weaving in Malawi and the strengths / weaknesses of gabions vs groins in preventing coastal erosion, he’d never actually taken the time to teach us where anything was haha (not his fault of course, I’m sure he was obliged to teach the syllabus, as decreed by Her Majesty’s government) XD
Thank you again for the kind words. I suppose I try my best to “set a good example” - there’s no need for any elitism in the hobby and certainly, no need for another cocky sod on the internet ha!
Cheers again. All the best : )
@@IntotheBlueSimulations As I high school teacher, I found myself making up for what was not taught in junior high or elementary school - which was a lot. At the end, they could not write in cursive, though it was required for the state exam. I used maps and had them make maps where the modern nations were in a history unit. Later, they kept telling us to focus on stuff as you described, but I still found maps not only useful, but relaxing - kind of an art therapy moment. Just like flight simming.
I can only imagine and I’m pretty sure things haven’t gotten any better! Still, speaking from personal experience, the teachers who go above and beyond, are always the ones you remember for the rest of your life (for all the *right* reasons haha). I’m sure I’m being “old fashioned”, but I think it’s far more important to have some appreciation of where everything sits on a map and to understand how planet Earth actually functions. Sure, it’s also nice to get a bit of a flavour as to what’s going on in the world but, I’ve yet to put my knowledge of basket weaving to good use (maybe I ought to brush up on my Hawaiian geography though haha) : P
Cheers and have a great weekend! : )
Yeah those external sounds are pretty anemic. Plane looks pretty good but I'm gonna wait to see how the Just Flight effort compares as I much prefer the older cockpit they are going for with the T1, plus it wouldn't feel right slapping a Red Arrows livery on the navalised Goshawk! Anyway, cheers for the review, top notch as always.
Yeah, seems a lot of people feel the same way about both the sounds and waiting for the Hawk. I may still have to slap a Red Arrows livery on it in the meantime though. Once the gear is up, a heathen like me wouldn’t even be able to tell the difference : P
My pleasure on the review. Glad you found it useful! : )
Nice review, thank you. I've already got the MBB-339 so was watching this with interest, however a hawk rather than a goshawk appeals to me more because of all the RAF liveries I can then use. Now just need to wait for JustFlight and their T1/T1A and see how that compares.
Thanks very much!
Yeah, same here really. My heart is with the Hawk, being a Brit. I’d prefer to have RAF liveries and I generally like the older avionics (although the T45 could be nice for doing some long(ish) cruises with its rather nice MFDs). I still wanted to support IFE though, as they’re a smaller developer and they’ve been producing some really nice products. Ive actually never tried the Just Flight Hawk previously, but it looks excellent and I hear good things. Definitely planning to review it when the time comes : )
@@IntotheBlueSimulations Following your video I did end up buying this, kind of gave up waiting on the JustFlight Hawk, so I'll no doubt end up with both when that eventually emerges.
Like you I'd prefer the Hawk with RAF liveries however I'm making do with the Goshawk and liveries I've got from flightsim.to. Flying in the backseat, from EGOV RAF Valley with an RAF livery in VR is one of those OMG moments.
Due to time limitations I'm usually only on at weekends but it's been great to meet up with other T-45s flying out of EGOV into the Mach Loop or up into the Lake District.
Ah well glad to hear you are enjoying it by the sounds of it? You’d probably still be waiting for the Hawk for some time in fairness. I bet it’s amazing in VR! I’m not sure my machine would be up to the task though haha.
Yeah, that must be great fun heading out as a group, I’ll have to try and tag along some time! : )
All the best!
Great review as always - looking forward to picking this one up, and I can't wait for the BAE Hawk to release. Hope it's to the same standard as this, or better.
Slightly disappointing that it doesn't appear to handle the way an observer would expect a Hawk to, but that doesn't bother me too much. MSFS is more of a sightseeing sim than an aerobatic one for me.
Thanks very much once again!
Yeah, I’m definitely looking forward to the JF Hawk as well. Never actually tried it in previous sims, but I always hear good things. It’ll be interesting to see how they compare in terms of handling. I’m the same as you, personally the flight model doesn’t bother me too much, as I mostly like to just cruise around in the sim and explore / take in the scenery : )
nice vid! must have been tricky to land on the carrier from side view 😃 btw I’m missing the steam effect if the catapult.
Thanks Péter! : )
Actually, there is a freeware recording tool now, so I can finally record some of what I’m doing and get some better external shots etc when I want to.
Haha, yeah the carrier implementation is still very basic in MSFS currently. Apparently this was all that the developer could achieve with the current SDK. Really DCS is where it’s at for all this kind of stuff anyway, but it’s still good fun from time to time in MSFS.
All the best!
The lack of steam is what you noticed? First thing I wondered about was "where's the jet blast deflectors?"
Seems weird to see a carrier launch without them.
It does, doesn’t it. The whole thing is obviously pretty crude in its implementation. I believe the author of the HDS carrier module does plan all these sorts of things in the future, but right now the sims SDK just doesn’t support them.
The whole thing was just a bit of fun though, and you can’t really review a Goshawk and not depart from a carrier! Obviously DCS would be much better for this sort of thing though generally speaking.
All the best : )
wonderful
Indeed! Overall it’s a really nice addon : )
A T-45 WITH a working carrier?! Nice!! I might actually buy Microsoft Flight Simulator now!
Yeah, because MSFS2020 is just not worth buying UNLESS it has the T-45 Goshawk.. riiiight..
@@ryanp6999 Just get DCS... much more accurate with planes/carrier ops than MSFS will ever be (not counting a decade out)... And VNAO is releasing a T-45 for DCS within the next month... fully carrier/Supercarrier capable. But still a mod, so we'll see how good it is (even though the devs are a hardcore mil-sim group, so I don't think they'd put out crap). Or just get the F/A-18 Hornet, and F-14 which are two of the top 3 modules in DCS as far as systems, and details go (along with the A-10Cii)
Yes indeed, but just to reiterate, to get the carrier working you will need a paid mod. It’s good enough if you just want to have a bit of fun, but DCS is definitely the better option if you want to get serious with it all, as others have said : )
Definitely looking forward to that then! Should be good fun. Let’s hope it’s better than the VEAO Hawk ha! Bought it, never even got a chance to fly it. . . : /
Fighters have a corner speed usually around 350-430 knots where they get the best rate of turn. Also pitot goes on when temperature is below 0C and there is visible moisture, and oxygen goes on above 10,000 feet. It's not needed below that. Spin is induced by rudder. Yawing forces one wing to accelerate more than the other, while the other loses lift, causing the plane to rapidly roll and pitch down from the stall. An incipient spin.
Thanks Neon! Yeah it's definitely a valid point re the corner speed; whilst I have no real-world experience on high-performance jets, I have spent enough time in DCS to say that I think the IFE T45 flight model feels off though. I have subsequently flown the VNAO T45 in DCS and the two feel very different (with the VNAO version feeling much closer to how I imagine the real aircraft would fly (though this could be an incorrect assumption on my part).
Re the other points (if you're interested). Pitot heat and oxygen operation were as per the T45 checklist (a real-world one I believe). Pitot heat requirements tend to vary from aircraft to aircraft, with some having an operating window and some having it on throughout the entire flight (most commercial jets for example). You're correct re oxygen generally only being required (from a physiological point of view) above 10,000ft, but again the checklist called for it on throughout the flight. 1) I suspect so it's there when you do need it - I'd imagine the system meters it out accordingly anyway. 2) I believe on the T45, the switch actually controls the "OBOGS" system / the G-suit pressurisation - which I guess you would want on throughout the flight. Again though, I'm not T45 expert; this is just based on the little reading I've done, of the T45 documentation provided with the addon. It may be that you know more than me about the aircraft. . .
On the spin, for sure you can induce one more readily with rudder input - it isn't necessarily required though.
Just my two pennies worth, you can take it or leave it at your leisure of course!
All the best : )
Interesting thing is that MilViz did most of the graphics modeling for this one rather than IFE. Great to see theyre still on top of their game. Will be cool to try out their F4U Corsair when it releases in the next week or so(?).
I haven't had a chance to install this one yet, but am definitely looking forward to it. Nice thing is that there's a lot of similarity in the MFD's, and even cockpit layout, to the Hornet, so all that time i've got in DCS Hornet should be put to good use.
Bummer about the non-collimated HUD, as the FPM and E bracket are incredibly helpful for CV landings. They were totally out of whack for your approach, but I noticed similar behavior on vids re the DCD Eagle - it just doesn't seem to work well.
Agree on the engine sound. To my ears it sounded like an ancient computer game airplane engine - aurally annoying.
Flight model, though decent for normal maneuvers, does seem marginal at the edges. But as noted, most MSFS aircraft seem to have problems out there, too. Hope that gets fixed by Asobo sooner rather than later.
All in all, for $30, I think it's worth the buy and should be a ton of fun to fly around.
Yeah, I noticed that MilViz had done the modelling, as it states it in the manual. I was a little surprised, but as you say they’ve done an excellent job, so it’s all fine by me! Looking forward to giving the Corsair a go as well!
The HUD is a shame, but nothing to be done there really at the moment. A few people have mentioned the FPV / E bracket; I don’t know if that was me doing something wrong, or the HUD not displaying correctly? I’m not really very familiar with carrier ops / aircraft. It didn’t feel quite right though.
Indeed, the engine sound is a real shame as it rather lets the addon down. I hope they address it in their first update. It’s bizarre that it passed muster, given the quality of the rest of the product.
As you say re the flight model, good enough for cruising around. As with most MSFS aircraft this is the case. It just falls apart at the extremes of the envelope (not ideal on a combat jet though admittedly, a little more tolerable on a C152).
Overall I think the aircraft is a quality product and reasonable value. It’s just not quite as much fun to fly as I was expecting though, given the “heavy” controls. Particularly in pitch, it rather feels like you don’t have full elevator authority.
I’ve been enjoying my time in it though, the cockpit and MFDs are really nice. I’ve just been using it more as a “fast cruiser”, than something to be chucking around valleys etc.
If you do pick it up, hope you enjoy it! : )
Nice video, but there is no island of Kahului. There is, however, a city called Kahului on the island of Maui, home of OGG/PHOG, the primary commercial airport on Maui.
Ah, very true sir! Had a bit of a brain lapse on that one haha. . .
Thanks very much Ryan : )
Great review of an excellent product. 100% agree with you on the handling though - it seems sluggish in pitch. I'm no expert but it feels like there's not enough pitch authority. Still a great A/C though.
Thanks very much Roland!
Yes, I completely agree and actually just said the same to someone else. It feels like the elevator authority is lacking. As you say though, a brilliant product, minus a few niggles (which will hopefully be sorted).
All the best! : )
Haha here 6 months later now that this is out for xbox. Thanks for the start-up tutorial and review!
Haha, nice! Thanks very much, my pleasure!
Happy flying and all the best : )
couldn't remember where the oxygen and hydraulics were to get the cautions all out. oh and C aux. There was a T-45 parked at the FBO (Fixed Base Operator) about two months ago at an airport near me, and you don't know how tempting it was to hunt the pilots down, haha. Nice video man! Also, is the carrier the one that is all over the globe? The one in marketplace apparently says (can't launch or trap). Ahh I can't wait for the days when they have a moving carrier. Get some carrier practice again from my IL2: 1946 days.
Ah cheers, well I’m glad the video was useful then! : )
Haha, I’m sure if you had tracked them down, they’d have been only too happy to talk (I find most guys are). I’m sure they’d have a lot of interesting stories as well. I would have been on the hunt too most likely haha!
Yeah, the carrier is the freeware Superspud version. A nice little freeware package, but you need a payware module (either the HDS Carrier Module, or Kinetic Assistant) to have working launch / recovery. Kinetic Assistant is good, as it’s much more versatile overall (can do winch launches for gliders etc also). At some point we should be getting a free carrier though yeah.
Ah, IL2 1946, what a cracking sim! : D
Thanks again, all the best!
I don't know if this is a fault with HDS but once in tension, the launch bar should be set to "Up". I also wish they'd have an animated crew like they did in FSX and a "salute/shooter" hot key instead of the parking brake being the launch.
Ah, no, that’s my fault entirely then Kyle! I’m not all that familiar with this carrier stuff (if you couldn’t tell already haha). I left the launch bar down of my own accord. So that should be retracted once the aircraft is all hooked up?
Yeah, the carrier stuff is pretty basic in the sim at the moment. Apparently we’ll be getting an official “Top Gun” update (bit of a movie tie-in I think) once the sim comes to Xbox though, so presumably that will include carriers and improved functionality.
Thanks for the pointer.
Cheers once again : )
Thanks for this review. I’ll wait for MSFS to sort the HUD limiiting code before getting this one I think.
My pleasure once again! : )
Yeah, the HUD is far from ideal at the moment. Not IFEs fault though of course. Hopefully Asobo will address it sooner rather than later (although they have rather a long list of items that need fixing, so I guess it could take some time in actuality).
Cheers
Of all of the DLC, I am pleased that I chose this one.
That’s great, I’m glad you’re enjoying it! It certainly has a lot of nice aspects to it. Happy flying! : )
Thanks, I'll try that. It will start through Sim, but you must turn on generator before it will start. Again the Gpu will shutdown in that mode too.
Yeah, this method should work fine. Again, I don’t know how realistic the GTS is, would be interesting to know actually. . .
Cheers Gary : )
Interesting stall behaviour!
Haha, indeed. She’s very. . . ahem. . . “placid”.
Anyone interested in flying the T-45 Charlie should also check out the VNAO DCS mod. You can get both DCS and the VNAO T-45C mod for free. I’ve never flown MSFS at all but from this review it looks like the VNAO has slightly lower interior model quality but the flight experience in DCS might actually be better. If you’re willing to pay for the Super Carrier module it is light years ahead of what’s available in MSFS. On the other hand, DCS can’t hook up to VATSIM. The training bombs, rockets, and gun tone are modeled in DCS so you can do some A/A and A/G training. Would be really cool to see a comparison for us T-45C fans, I’m not sure I’ve ever heard from someone who’s flown both.
Hi FMO,
Indeed, I can’t recommend the DCS version of the T45 highly enough! The MSFS version of the Goshawk is somewhat prettier (and it’s great to have the freedom of the planet that MSFS affords) but otherwise, the VNAO version has it bested on every front (and it’s free!). I did actually fly the T45 in DCS, albeit some time ago:
th-cam.com/video/CCg5TQ0DNDI/w-d-xo.html
Cheers and all the best! : )
This has just arrived on Xbox I’m a happy chap
Haha, happy flying Chief! : )
I very much enjoyed your video which provided a thorough review of this aircraft on the basis of which I bought it and I am not disappointed. One question though, how did you get to the cold and dark state on the HDSim carrier? Did you just power everything off from the loaded ready state or is there a setting to do this when starting on a carrier?
Thanks very much Geoffrey! Glad to hear the review was useful and you’re enjoying the product.
Actually, the carrier used in this video was a freeware addon available from:
flightsim.to/file/4930/aircraft-carrier-uss-msfs-uk-mooring
You’ll still need the HDS carrier module, but one of the advantages with this carrier, is that it has a “parking spot” and as such you can load up with the aircraft cold and dark.
Hope that helps : )
Thanks for a great review. I'm disappointed to hear about the flight model, I too was hoping for a fun agile jet. I have the MB339 and love it. I will wait for the JF Hawk and your review of that.
Well... realism is often disappointing. The T-45 is notorious for being underpowered and and sluggish
Is that so? Well there you go! As I say, I have no idea how a Goshawk flies, but it seems my preconceptions were totally wrong then. . . I guess they just took a Hawk and added a bunch of weight to it? I still feel like there’s something amiss in pitch, but I could just be wrong about that as well ha.
Thanks for the info, much appreciated!
Thanks very much Graham! Glad you enjoyed it : )
Yeah, it will be interesting to compare the two for sure. I always prefer things to be modelled realistically, but true to life or not, there’s no doubt (for me at least) the T45 isn’t quite as much fun to fly as the MB339.
All the best!
@@IntotheBlueSimulations
Yes they are heavier than the Hawk as things need to be strengthened when you intend to crash land onto a boat over and over again
Haha, sounds sensible! I’ve come to the conclusion that the flight model is partly to blame though. I’ve subsequently flown the VNAO T-45, which I gather has been produced (at least in part) by real world T-45 guys, it flies much more like one would imagine and I suspect is indeed closer to the real aircraft. That being said, I haven’t flown the IFE version for a while and I know it has received some updates. . .
Cheers! : )
India Fox Techo..... My brain does not like that
I was going to say the same thing. India Foxt Echo, alluding to IFE (In-Flight Entertainment?) in the phonetic alphabet.
@@richavery66 yeah makes my head just crash
If you look at their website it's capitalized as IndiaFoxtEcho, which is cringy enough as is, but better than hearing it pronounced as IndiaFoxTecho - the last word is Echo, not Techo.
I’m not sure I understand what’s cringey about it Ryan? For what it’s worth, I actually was saying India Foxt Echo throughout the review (or at least attempting to ha). As you can see from the video title, I know where the capitalisation lies within the company name. It’s just a bit of “tongue twister” when said quickly and doesn’t come naturally (at least to me) stressing the “T” at the end of Fox.
@@IntotheBlueSimulations The cringey part of the name is the ‘Foxt’ part - a non-word in betwixt ‘India’ and ‘Echo’. ‘Fox’ itself would be fine, albeit not in keeping with the phonetic alphabet spellings of the words before and after it, and ‘Foxtrot’ would make perfect sense. The awkward spelling of the name gets a big Whiskey Tango Foxtrot from me.
I do love their products and I wish them continued success in the market. I appreciate the fact that they are producing great models of lesser known aircraft. Life’s too short to be saddled with simple, safe choices - I’m personally not terribly interested in more variations of G1000 equipped Cessnas, common cockpit Airbuses (A318/319/320/321/330/340) or all-too-familiar American military aircraft (F/A-18, F-15) and am happy to support those that do things that are a little different even if their company name doesn’t make a lot of sense.
There is a free T-45 Goshawk for DCS. I believed it was this one that you reviewed, as it looks exactly the same.
Do you mean this one? ; )
th-cam.com/video/CCg5TQ0DNDI/w-d-xo.html
Externally they are both excellent. Internally the MSFS version has the edge in a lot of areas, however the sounds and flight model of the DCS version are vastly superior! Hard not to recommend the DCS one as it’s free : )
All the best
Nice Vid and good landing job Greetings Thomas from Rawai Phuket
Thanks again Thomas! Glad you enjoyed it : )
I don’t think the landing was “textbook”, but good enough for the sake of the video haha.
ขอให้มีความสุขมาก ๆ ในวันนี้! : )
Mt favorite jet so far has been the F-14. Still waiting for that next killer, study level aircraft. The more nobs and switches I can fiddle with the better.
Haha, well funnily enough I was going to say that you might be interested in my next video Travis, but obviously you’ve already seen it at this point. I think the Hawk should tick those boxes very nicely for you (assuming you’re a fan of the aircraft anyway)!
All the best : )
@@IntotheBlueSimulations Ya, the T1 looks pretty nice.
I need Just Flight to start releasing on Xbox.. 😫
Indeed! It sounds though, like it’s more of a case of Asobo and / or Microsoft letting Just Flight onto the Marketplace (from what I’ve heard) : /
Nice video. The HUD doesn't seem to work right though... should be focused out to infinity like in DCS.
Thanks very much : )
Yes, unfortunately HUDs don’t work properly in MSFS at the moment. It’s not really the fault of the developers, the sim doesn’t currently support it.
Cheers
Great video you must be a pilot cuz your very knowledgeable and thorough I appreciate that , I'm new on here and struggling with over active joystick cuz somehow my view is only half/screen half black screen??? Upon takeoff at V2 f5 takes off and immediately wants to barrel roll with the slightest touch Anyway I'm trying to find out why my screen isn't working properly ?
Thanks Phil and sorry for the slow reply! I usually aim to be a bit quicker, but I’ve been busy of late + had a lot of comments to get through.
I do indeed fly in the real world, so I try and inject most of my videos with as much realism as I can. Try and combine my passions for real world aviation and flight simulation together : )
Have you managed to solve any of your problems yet? Are we talking about MSFS or DCS on this occasion? Let me know, happy to try and help if I can.
Does anyone have a good honeycomb setup for this? Right now I'm using my single engine with throttle and mixture profile.
The real Goshawk is supposed to feature an aileron-rudder interconnect (Like the F-14Delta) to lessen the stress and workload on the already-stressed students. Also, usually on their first trap on the carrier, the instructor will not be in the jet. Logic being: Killing one pilot is favorable to killing two. It costs over a million dollars US to train one Naval combat pilot.
Interesting. I didn’t notice any such feature on the IFE version (I may have missed it), but I guess turning “autorudder” on would actually have the same effect. . .
I suppose I can see the logic there. Presumably they practice fairly close to a shore facility (at least initially), such that if the student just can’t nail it, they can always head for dry land? Must be quite the feeling, going for your first carrier landing solo!! All makes me very jealous I must say haha!
Cheers
The external sound is more like an old 28.8k modem handshake than a jet. Beautiful aircraft though.
Haha, yeah a few people have mentioned dial-up modems Adam. I don’t hear it personally (sounds more like a handheld vacuum cleaner to me), but either way the sound doesn’t match the quality of the rest of the product unfortunately : /
This really does sound like an RC plane
It does rather doesn’t it Jo. I’m not really sure what happened there, since everything else in the addon sounds great!
Sounds like a dialup modem to me
Haha, I don’t quite hear it myself, but someone else said the same thing. . .
Is the course selector for the VOR on the digital panel? I couldnt see a course knob, but there is a CRS button on the panel?
Yes David, exactly.
You select either heading or course with the appropriate LSK from the bottom of the MFD and then adjust your selection using the LSKs on the right-hand side of the MFD. little bit more fiddly than just having a knob, but it works well enough.
@@IntotheBlueSimulations Hmmm...Looks a nice sim, but your demo of the handling tells me that a standard Asobo flight model seems to be at work here. We know how agile and fast the Hawk is, Red Arrows pilots in mamy videos! (Ive never flown a Hawk!!!). I think it shouldnt "feel" heavy in elevator response, it should be super sensitive and fly like youve strapped it on!. I am not wanting to waste my money on something Ill fly once or twice then park it in the hangar. Perhaps ill wait for the Hawk?
Yep, I would agree with those statements David; and waiting for the Hawk is probably a good option. At least then you can compare as well (though I suspect the Hawk may end up being the better option in terms of handling, given what I’ve heard about it previously and what I’ve seen from Just Flight so far in MSFS).
Great video. My apu starts but won't run. It just shuts down. I never get a ready light
Thanks Gary!
Yes, I experienced the same. I’ve no idea if it’s accurate, a bug, an inaccuracy, or a sim peculiarity (that would be my guess). Mine (going off the audio) runs through a complete startup and then immediately shuts down. I would have thought it reality it would continue to run, but I’ve never come across a GTS in the real-world. I wait just until the GTS start audio has peaked and then hit the engine starter. That procedure works for me.
Hope that helps get you started up! All the best : )
now I just need a T-6B
Haha, you’ll be able to put yourself through the Naval academy then! : P
I believe Iris Simulations made one previously, but as I understand it they won’t be redeveloping it for MSFS unfortunately.
i was flying it a bit yesterday and i’ve never flown one irl of course but in msfs i have to co constantly have my pinky on the trim and i really can’t get a good turn without trimming nose up all the way or fly flat at speed without nose down all the way.
Oh and the view model in cockpit could benefit from a higher fov and clean glass
Yes, I still think the flight model feels off. I haven’t flown one either, but it just doesn’t feel “right” and also seems a bit underpowered. I have flown the freeware DCS version in the intervening period and that one was created by a team who actually have time on the jet. Feels much more like what I was expecting.
I like the IFE T45, but I don’t find it all that much “fun” to fly sadly. I thought the flight model would probably get an update in due course, but it seems not. Presumably IFE are happy with the accuracy of it on their end then and who knows, maybe it is accurate. . .
All the best!
@@IntotheBlueSimulations i also grabbed their mb339, now that feels like it just wants to do aerobatics all the time, i really expected the t-45 to be more like that too
Exactly. The MB339 is fun! Not the fastest aircraft by any means, but a pleasure to throw around. Like you, I expected the T45 to be the same (and I think it would be better for it).
I was initially expecting the T45 to be like a Hawk, but apparently it is heavier and underpowered in comparison. It still feels like it’s lacking in manoeuvrability though, almost like you don’t have full control authority. . .
Cheers
How do we fix the issue when we try to click on the launch bar in the cockpit we click on the EMER GEAR handle. We cant click on The launch bar button
Hi Carlos,
I’m afraid I’m not sure on that one (I haven’t had a chance to fly the jet in a while). If I had to guess, I expect Sim Update 7 may have introduced the issue - I know it’s caused some other issues with the T-45. It sounds like it’s a clikspot issue that you’re having? Might be worth turning off “Lens Correction” in your sim settings and see if that helps (apparently the Lens Correction setting is causing clickspots to be more fiddly than they used to be). Otherwise it will most likely just be a case of waiting for India Foxt Echo to fix up the aircraft I’m afraid.
I hope that’s of some help. Cheers, all the best! : )
How do you turn off your thorttle? is it a buttom or the finger lock thing , hwo to push it in order to back the lever to idle?
Hi Fabio,
If memory serves me correctly, you can operate the throttle using your mixture control key binds. Increasing the mixture puts the throttle into the idle detent; holding down the decrease mixture button will (eventually) put the throttle into the cutoff position.
Let me know if that works for you? If not, I will investigate further : )
All the best!
@@IntotheBlueSimulations thank tou i set THE mixture axis and worked but THE rpm went from 54%~ tô THE cuttoff position. It dont sit on idle position around 2%~ like manual say. Is it correct?
Hi Fabio,
Hmmm, I don’t have the manual to hand at the moment, so I’m afraid I’m not exactly sure what you’re referring to; from memory that sounds correct. The throttle also acts as the HP fuel cock. With the throttle closed, the engine will shutdown. With the the throttle in the idle detent, the engine should idle around 50-55%. Im not sure what the 2% refers to (2% is very low, the engine will reach that almost immediately during the startup)?
Does that makes sense, or have I misunderstood your point?
Cheers! : )
Question: I don't do any military flying. Are the TACANs available in MSFS or Navigraph?
I don’t really do a whole lot either to be honest. I have run some tests with the TACANs in the past though. They are in the sim I believe, but don’t seem to be working correctly. As for Navigraph, I have no idea I’m afraid. . .
Cheers
It's got to the point now where I click the like button before watching the vid!!
Haha, well thanks very much! Glad to know I’m doing my job right then. I will continue to try and bring you content that makes you feel that way : )
What sort of FPS are you getting? I have an older GTX970, i can run performance intensive aircraft at around 30-35 FPS so not sure about this one.
Hi Ramy,
I was getting about 40-45fps in the Goshawk, as opposed to about 70fps in the default C152. So a big frame rate hit. I suspect it’s as a result of having essentially 3 MFDs (which seem to be very resource hungry in the sim, on all aircraft). If you’re worried about performance, this one might be a bit of a stretch to run unfortunately.
Hope that helps : )
just a quick question... that external view sound of the engine.. is that what i sounds like ?
Yes, those are the sounds the package comes with, no editing etc by me (they’re at full volume as well, both in the sim and in the recording).
28:08 that is how you die in naval aviation.. not putting on power after landing and not really catching a wire.
Haha, well probably a good job I’m no naval aviator then! : /
I mean, the video was obviously no landing tutorial, the landing was just a bit of a means to an end, a bit of fun. I very rarely do any carrier stuff in-sim (and when I do, it’s always in something that hovers). I’m sure if I took the time to sit down and learn all the procedures etc, I could give it a good bash.
All the best
I agree but it's still a good viedo and we all make mistakes fortunately you can respond I have to at least four times a day unfortunately with an overactive joystick and wrist probably
Didn't know death was simulated in FS?
Having trouble tuning NAV and TACAN...nothing I program seems to get them to move, even with the mouse.
Hi John,
I’m not 100% sure, but it’s quite possible that Sim Update 7 has broken some of the functionality on the aircraft (as it did with many other addons). I know SU7 has rendered the HUD inoperative, it may well have done the same to the NAV radios. Unfortunately it may well be a case of waiting for India Foxt Echo to update the T-45.
Cheers, all the best! : )
@@IntotheBlueSimulations Thanks, I have 1.2.1 that was just released and I got in contact with them, hopefully they'll have a fix soon.
Thanks for the video ! How does this compare to the Hawk T1 from Aerosoft ?
Hi Christopher,
Cheers, my pleasure on the video!
Just for clarification, the Hawk T1 was actually developed by Just Flight. The short answer to your question; the T1 is superior in nearly every respect (the T45 perhaps has a slight visual edge and is carrier capable of course). If I had to choose between the two aircraft, I would go with the T1 every time. I have also reviewed the T1, so that video may also be of some interest: th-cam.com/video/ex_t7mTuvZs/w-d-xo.html
I hope that helps a little. Thanks and all the best! : )
@@IntotheBlueSimulations Thanks, that helps a lot. Cheers!
You’re most welcome Christopher, happy to hear it! Cheers : )
Thanks for the nice review. One question ... How do you switch the Throttle to OFF? I cannot seem to activate the Finger Lift with my mouse.
Thanks Edwin, my pleasure!
I don’t know whether it still works (as control bindings often seem to change between updates), but I have a button assigned to increase / decrease mixture on my hardware. Holding down “decrease mixture” will eventually bring the throttle back to cutoff and kill the engine.
Hope that helps. All the best! : )
@@IntotheBlueSimulations Ah …. Mixture! Yes that makes sense. It would be nice if aircraft developers would have some guidance on some less obvious bindings. Thanks for the help and quick reply 👍🏻✋🏻
Completely agree! These sorts of things should certainly be make clear in the manual. Providing a real-world manual etc isn’t always adequate for the sim. Anyway, no worries, my pleasure! : )
How are you moving your cockpit camera around, I can only zoom in and look around. Looks like you can lean around as well.
Hi Chris,
I’m using a device called TrackIR. It’s basically a head tracking device. It’s great, although quite pricey (and takes a bit of getting used to). There are some freeware / cheaper alternatives available also, if you fancy trying it for yourself : )
All the best!
@@IntotheBlueSimulations thanks! For some reason I thought you could do the movements with mouse and key board, off to the online store to get me some track ir!
I think technically you probably could do most of these movements with a keyboard Chris, but to get it this smooth and responsive, you’d need to be the Beethoven of keyboard control haha XD
If you do pick TackIR up, hope you enjoy it! For me, I find it incredibly useful and I couldn’t do without it now. The head movement vs the sim movement isn’t 1:1, so it can take a bit of getting used to. It can be fiddly to set up well. If you get stuck, get in touch again on here, I’m happy to share my profile : )
All the best!
Anti skid on a carrier...what could go wrong?!? Cheers mate! Great review!
Thanks man! Glad you enjoyed it : )
Haha, is that a no no then? I must say, I was expecting to turn it off at some point (as you seem to do in most combat jets, seems it’s usually linked to the NWS as well?), but (unless I missed it) I didn’t see any such step in the checklist. . .
@@IntotheBlueSimulations Anti-Skid = OFF for carrier ops. For shore ops Anti-Skid = ON and Hook Bypass = Field.
Thanks Matthew, sounds like you should be the man in the know haha!
What’s the logic behind that then? I’ve never flown an aircraft where you want to turn off anti-skid under normal conditions. Is it just that “any” braking is preferable to the anti-skid potentially kicking in, when you’re feet away from them edge of the deck?
@@IntotheBlueSimulations The material on the carrier deck is such that even under wet conditions, the wheels have enough grip. anti skid may reduce your turning radius when using full deflection as the gear 'thinks' it is sliding on that surface.
Ok, makes sense. Thanks very much John : )
Great to see some navigation options! Although I doubt the TACAN works? I've submitted a ticket to Asobo that their TACAN's don't work and now we have Mil jets on the sim, we need TACAN! May just grab this one....but shouldn't 200 knots, through the valley, be 400?🙃
Yeah, overall the MFDs have quite a lot of nice options, albeit they are still of course simplified. I haven’t tried TACAN just yet, but happy to run another test for you if you’d like? I suspect it’s a sim issue as you say though.
Yeah, overall it’s really quite a nice product to pick up; with the caveats that I mentioned during the review. External sounds don’t bother me too much, as I don’t really use external views much personally. The lack of elevator authority (at least to my mind) is a bit annoying though. Once again, the flight model also feels pretty “default”.
Haha, maybe I misspoke. . . I meant that I was running 90% RPM outbound to the island and it was only giving me 200kts (which seemed rather slow to me).
All the best David : )
TACAN has never been implemented into MS flight sims, they have always substituted the VOR Freq. If you have a VOR to TACAN conversion chart or have charts that display TACAN channels along with VOR Frequency then you can use them. Most sim military planes use VOR just fine and if they have a TACAN control box (like the T-45C has) then you can put in the channel number and it will work.
Ok John, thanks very much for the info!
I’ve never really tried using TACANs in the sim much previously. I was running some tests for David in the MB339. As you say, it seems the simulated TACAN radio just mimics the real thing, by tuning the alternative frequency, but this didn’t seem to be working quite correctly in the MB339. . .
Anyway, thanks again for your input! All the best : )
@@IntotheBlueSimulations I really don't think Asobo have working TACAN beacons. They seem to transmit range, when you tune the corresponding VOR frequency, but no bearing whatsoever. Can you run a test with the TACAN receivers and try to fly on TACAN bearing and range. There are military bases in the UK that have TACAN (I use Littlenavmap to identify them). If you can determine that they function in these military jets, I will consider grabbing them. After all, if I'm flying a military jet, I want to fly to military bases! BTW your Mach loop flight in the 339 was top notch! The turns were crisp. I'd like to see the difference with the T45? If it's lumpy, you won't make the same turns! Cheers!
I ran a few more tests for you David. In short, the results are so inconsistent and sketchy, that it’s easier to say; it’s essentially broken. From what I’ve found, if it’s a TACAN, with a “normal” frequency associated with it, you can get a bearing and DME off it, but it’s so fiddly to tune using the TACAN radio (without using cockpit tooltips), that you might as well just tune up using the NAV radio instead (as that’s all you’re really doing with the TACAN radio currently anyway). Also, you can select multiple different frequencies and they will show as the same channel on the TACAN radio. So again, without tooltips you won’t really know what you’re tuned in to. Trying to tune up a straight TACAN channel is basically a non starter. For all intents and purposes, I would regard it as INOP currently.
I won’t put up a full video of the T45 on the Mach Loop just yet. But if you’d really like to compare, I’m happy to film a quick run (when I can) and link you to the unedited footage?
All the best
The controls do get heavy a very high speed. I nearly missed Corris Corner on the Mach Loop because I was well past best corner speed.
Haha, it’s always Corris Corner that catches me out. . .
What do you think generally though Phillip? To me it feels rather heavy in pitch at all speeds. Almost like it’s Fly By Wire and I don’t have full authority over the elevator.
@@IntotheBlueSimulations No doubt it needs tweaking but also it will be interesting to compare it with the upcoming Just Flight T1/1A. The T45 I think, is significantly heavier because of the conversion to cat and trap carrier ops and I don't think that the engine was uprated to account for it.
Wether this would make it a bit heavier on the controls? No Idea I'm afraid, it's just conjecture on my part. Personally I am reasonably happy with the handling in the mid to high speed range. I would expect the controls to feel heavy on most aircraft near the limits but again. I am no pilot. I am just guessing.
Yeah, that all sounds reasonable and others have said the same re the aircraft being heavier, but no more powerful. I would say that the controls mostly feel plausible in that case, though I still think the elevator feels like it’s lacking a bit of authority.
As you say, it will be interesting to compare against the Hawk : )
Cheers, all the best!
can you do auto pilot nav/ gps for example you plug in before loading the plane Klax to jfk and msfs 2020 will auto input the waypoints for and all that is left is to load the flight take off and click AP/nav
The waypoints I was using in the video were from an MSFS flight plan. So in theory I guess this would work just fine (so long as there is no limit to the number of waypoints the aircraft will accept). In fact, as far as I can tell, this is the only way you can insert waypoints at the moment (I did spend some time trying to enter a manual one).
Bad news is through, there’s no autopilot (as is accurate for the aircraft). So if you’re doing a long stretch, you can’t sit back and relax. Range on the jet is also pretty limited. Probably get < 2hrs out of her it seems.
@@IntotheBlueSimulations got it thank you for the information
My pleasure Petter : )
Excellent review (and startup/shutdown procedures tutorial). The flight path marker was not correct on the landing - and horrific bug, as was the angle-of-attack required to trap.
Thanks very much sir! : )
Do you think it was a bug, or just my dodgy flying? A couple of people pointed it out to me, but I’m not “that” familiar with carrier ops. I realise the landing was rather fast, but coming in on AOA, it felt like I was right on the edge of the stall. I’m somewhat familiar with HUDs from DCS (though mostly land-based aircraft) and the HUD in the T45 certainly felt a bit “off” and clunky to me. As you say, watching my landing, I wasn’t in the correct attitude to catch the wire, but that was again probably my own fault for coming in too fast.
Cheers and all the best!
@@IntotheBlueSimulations it was a bug. You flew a visual approach and watched where your aimpoint was, yet the flightpath marker showed you would be much further down the deck than you actually trapped. So the flightpath marker doesn't seem right in that sim, hopefully it'll get fixed up. As for the aircraft attitude on landing, you did a 3-point landing but carrier aircraft land on two wheels because they must have a particular descent angle in order for the hook to catch the wire. With a 3 degree descent and a 5 degree nose pitch up the Angle-of-Attack is around 8 degrees and with only a degree or so of tolerance either way or the hook won't catch. Try the F/A-18C some more in DCS. Thanks again for the high quality video and all the work you put into scripting it and cutting to interesting external shots. Please do more, and cheers to you :)
Yeah, that was my understanding. Certainly any aircraft I’ve flown with a FPV, it will simply point where you’re headed (with some lag). This didn’t seem to quite be doing that. But again I’m not familiar with the T45 / naval ops, so I thought maybe it would be user error. I know as well that the landing attitude was off, you can really do what you like currently in MSFS and you know you’ll “catch a wire” as the implementation is very crude. It was really more for a bit of fun and I felt I couldn’t review the aircraft and not be on a carrier. Certainly wasn’t looking to show off my skills haha. On that note though, I really do need to try all this out I’m DCS. I keep meaning to, I know I’d love it. It’s definitely, a video I plan for the future, just for a bit of fun.
Thanks very much once again for your input! Glad you’re enjoying the vids : )
Nice Video! I've tested the plane in some flights now and get some bad performance on ground, for example hongkong int. airport, when i land the f-15 there all is good, with the T-45 i get stuttering rolling on the runway. With the MB-339 from indi i've never experienced that, hope they fix that with the next update.
Thanks Gary! : )
Yeah, it’s a very frame-rate intensive aircraft unfortunately. I’m not sure how much there is that IFE can do to fix it. I suspect it’s a result of glass instruments just being a massive hog on frame-rates in the sim (I guess the aircraft essentially has 3 of them). It would be Asobo that would need to optimise I suspect.
Also, I don’t know about you, but my sim is performing way worse since the most recent update? Where usually I was getting decent performance almost constantly, now I quite often get significant periods of stuttering and low FPS : /
Cheers, all the best!
@@IntotheBlueSimulations i dont know, i just know there is again a brake bug, but this time its a brake-stutter bug :) as soon you brake it kinda stutters on ground. mmmh.. i bought the 4-session addon, looks much better but THAT really drops the performance that much so i had to delete it. My big stutter problem came from the VirtualDisplays, as i fly VR only.
Ahhh, that makes some sense then. I was taxiing in the FBW 320 the other day and every time I was going round a corner, it was stuttering! Must be the braking bug you mentioned. It’s very annoying.
I got to the point where I wouldn’t play anything that wasn’t VR, but now that I’m mostly recording whatever I do, I’ve gotten used to 2D again. Still not the same if course, but it’s just as well, as my computer really doesn’t seem to care much for MSFS in VR sadly haha. Definitely in need of a system upgrade at some point. . .
All the best
@@IntotheBlueSimulations well, atm they fool you with everything! hardware wise The prices are a big joke, availibillity also.. Now the compatibility issue with X570 chipsets+PCIE Gen4+USB bug, HP reverb blackscreens and crashes all the time. Nothing to recommend atm. Microsoft VirtualDesktops registry entry halfs the fps in MSFS if set to 1... Flying with desktop monitor is no choice for me, i enjoy VR too much! i've tested orlando int. airport - flight over orlando, performance was worse then new york ^^
Yeah, well I want to get an upgrade, but as you say, now isn’t really the best time it seems (although will there ever be a “good” time again?).
I love VR, it’s waaay better than 2D, but as I say, I think 2D is much better for recording, and obviously the game looks better.
Give it another 10 years and we’ll probably be running it quite happily in VR haha ; )
looks really nice jet , how do you get to launch from a aircraft carrier in MFS 2020?
Hi Jay,
Yes, overall it’s a nice little jet. I haven’t had a chance to try the updated version - I gather the handling and sounds have been improved (though perhaps still not on a par with the DCS VNAO version).
For the launch / recovery, a payware tool is required (either HDS Carrier Module or Kintetic Assistant). The implementation is fairly crude for both of these though (and I haven’t tried either with the latest version of the sim). I think until we get the “Top Gun” update for the sim, carrier ops are going to remain rudimentary at best.
Cheers! : )
Love this aircraft but ive lost the HUD in the cockpit. Anyone know how to bring it back? I l’ve tried reinstalling the aircraft but still no joy.
Hi Michael,
Unfortunately the HUD is broken at the moment. Asobo updated how the HUD is drawn in the sim, as part of Sim Update 7. The bad news is that the T-45 will need fixing by India Foxt Echo; the good news is that the HUD should look quite a bit nicer once they have it fixed.
I hope that clears things up a bit. Cheers! : )
Is it just me or was he going quite a lot faster than you might be going in the MB-339 when maneuvering? Could that have something to do with the less responsive pitch control?
To some degree you’re right CaptainSpork. I certainly wouldn’t expect the aircraft to be as manoeuvrable at high speed. But I flew the aircraft from 600kts down to around 90kts and it just felt generally heavy in pitch throughout. Almost like I didn’t have full control of the elevator. Again though, never flown a Goshawk, so this could be entirely accurate and my preconceptions of how a Hawk / Goashawk might fly are entirely wrong.
Cheers, all the best : )
@@IntotheBlueSimulations yeh , the real thing will get to 400 kts at a push. No way up to 600.
Cheers Boggy!
Yeah, the flight model doesn’t seem to be one of the T-45s strengths. It’s rather slow with anything below 95% rpm and yet you can get it up into the 600kt range (albeit I think I was in a descent). I’m not all that familiar with the aircraft myself, but it doesn’t “feel” right to me.
All the best : )
Guess I'll wait for just flight Hawk Trainer jet.
I would imagine the Hawk will at least be on a par, from what I’ve heard about it previously. + its British ; )
Good review.
Is the Nimitz part of base MSFS+T45, or a different mod? Where is it?
Thanks :)
Thanks, glad you liked it : )
No the aircraft carrier is a separate freeware addon:
flightsim.to/file/4930/aircraft-carrier-uss-msfs-uk-mooring
However, to get the catapult / arrester “working” you will need to buy and download the carrier module from “Hard Deck Simulations”.
Hope that helps!
Are there any flight recorders/replay systems that work without the 'juddering' shown in your video replay? I've tried two payware ones and they simply don't record at a high enough rate (need 10 per second at a guess) to give a smooth replay, especially at high speed in the F15. Roll rate looks reasonable on the Goshawk, but the other controls look very weak. Should be fixable by the developer. On the F15 it took a while to get the inertia correct.
Hello again Colin,
Is there any specific video section you are referring to re the juddering? I can’t say I’ve noticed it too much myself. If it’s the sections near the carrier group (particularly the landing), it might be the FPS as much as anything (the large number of ships seems to eat up the frames). I think I’m my recent Corsair tutorial for example, it seems smooth enough? Anyway, I’m currently using this recorder:
forums.flightsimulator.com/t/release-flight-recorder-free-replay-tool/365957
SkyDolly is another one I’ve been meaning to try. . . They’re both free (I believe Sky Dolly is), so worth trying out if you haven’t already.
All the best : )
@@IntotheBlueSimulations 28:20 on the replay of the landing shows the jerkiness perfectly. Nothing else in-frame so it looks to me as if the flight data isn't recorded often enough (I know you have some control of this but only by sacrificing record duration). With fast SSDs, let alone 64GB of RAM that is less than half utilised it would be nice to be able to record at at least 10 per second and get a smooth replay.
Like you, I want to record a whole flight from cockpit or trail view and then replay to create a composite video from different viewpoints. An example would be the Mach Loop and hilltop photographer views.
I’m not sure if it’s not just this specific video Colin. In other videos where I’ve used the tool, it looks ok to me; as smooth as the sim itself is anyway. . .
It could just be that I don’t have an eye for these things though haha, some people pick up on certain things more than others (models, textures, audio, FPS etc).
It still beats the pants off the P3D replay system, I know that much haha. Obviously we can only do the best with what we have for now. Maybe the the native replay function (when it finally arrives) will be better : )
How to low rpm to 2% Idle?? i cant see where you clicked.
Hi Fabio,
For the engine start, you need to first engage the GTS (gas turbine starter). Again you can assign a keypress to this; the manual explains, but I think maybe it was something like “APU Master”. Once the GTS has spooled up, you can then hit the engine start switch and once you reach around 15-20% on the rpm, you can move the throttle into the idle detent (as discussed on the other thread). I hope that helps. Again any issues, let me know and I will try the start process in the aircraft myself when I get the chance.
Cheers! : )
Just a small note. You do not put on Anti-Skid on the deck of the aircraft carrier, only on land.
Ah ok. Thanks for that. Someone else mentioned the same thing. What’s the rationale behind it?
I followed the checklist, so I can only assume the checklist provided is based around land-based operations.
All the best! : )
@@IntotheBlueSimulations Accidents of going over the side or running into things have happened on the deck because the brakes do not react quick enough when anti-skid is employed. That's all. On land that is normally not a problem and actually beneficial when breaking on the runway or taxiways. It basically acts like the ABS braking system for cars.
Yeah, that makes sense, thanks for the info. I’m familiar with A/SKID, but I’ve just never come across turning it off as a procedure before. As you say, usually it’s always of benefit. But I can certainly see why, when you’re a few get off the edge of a carrier deck, any braking action is better than none haha.
Thanks again for the info, much appreciated! : )
Could you please provide a link to the USS Nimitz carrier, I can't seem to find any freeware one that looks like yours
Hi Coeptus,
The carrier is included in this freeware package: flightsim.to/file/4930/aircraft-carrier-uss-msfs-uk-mooring
There are multiple carrier types included, spread throughout the world map - you'll need to head to Hawaii for this one of course : )
I hope that helps. All the best!
@@IntotheBlueSimulations Thanks so much! The carrier looked amazing, keep up the great videos
@@IntotheBlueSimulations I'm not seeing a CVN-68 or USS Nimitz in that mod. Any ideas?
Hmmm. That’s definitely the mod I used. The mod was taken down for a short while by the author; perhaps he had to remove some assets, due to copyright infringements etc. If you’re not seeing the carrier in Hawaii, perhaps try some of the other locations on the world map?
Otherwise though, there are other freeware / payware carrier options out there.
All the best : )
where do you get the carrier to take off and land?
Hi Danny,
The carrier used in the video can be found here:
flightsim.to/file/4930/aircraft-carrier-uss-msfs-uk-mooring
You’ll need a payware module to get it functioning correctly though (I use the Hard Deck Simulations module). I would hold off on purchasing any such module mind you; supposedly there is a “Top Gun” update in the works for the sim, looks like that will come with carriers, an F18 etc.
Hope that helps, all the best! : )
Im considering getting this but I heard the HUD is broken. Is there any news on when it will be fixed?
Hi Jack,
Indeed the HUD is broken at the moment unfortunately. I don’t know when it will be fixed, but the devs are currently working on the F-35, so I expect that’s their priority at the moment. Once that’s released, hopefully they will go back and fix up the T-45. Just a bit of speculation on my part though.
Cheers, all the best!
@@IntotheBlueSimulations Oh that's a shame. Glad to hear they're working on an F-35! Thanks for your reply!
You’re most welcome! : )
How would you rate the flight model realistically on a scale of 1-10 to the real life aircraft
Hi Skins,
It would be tricky for me to say, having never flown a fast jet. I can only use DCS as a reference; but based off that metric, I would say the T-45 is somewhere around a 6. It flies reasonably nicely, but it seems to lack elevator authority to me and generally seems a bit underpowered. It doesn't behave particularly realistically at the extremes of the flight envelope, but that is largely due to limitations of the sim itself.
I hope that helps a little. All the best! : )
I wish IndiaFoxtEcho would convert this for DCS
Hi Colin,
Yeah, that would be great! Apparently there is a T45 mod on the way for DCS though : )
I only like full fidelity - not a fan of mods
Someone else did reply to your comment Colin, but unfortunately it got automatically deleted by Yotube, as they posted a link with it. Apparently the T45 mod is actually being made by a bunch of Ex-Navy T45 guys, for what it’s worth. . .
Not looking to change your mind, just thought you might be interested to know.
All the best!
Flight path marker and aoa bracket seemed way off on landing? You had to guess?
I’m not sure if it was the HUD, or just my dodgy flying. I’m not all that familiar with these carrier landings. I knew of the AOA bracket, but I’m not really familiar with its use. I flew an approach at roughly what felt right (although I ended up landing a bit fast). Subsequently tried flying the approach on AOA, aircraft felt a little bit too close to the stall for my liking. I’m not sure if it’s me or the aircraft to blame on that one though. . .
@@IntotheBlueSimulations try using your flight path marker and aoa bracket on an airfield landing, being a navy bird if they line up correct with where you want to land you should be on speed
I agree! I wish we could remove the duplication between developers. Same with scenery.
This IS a Hawk, just because the USA call it something different, it is a Hawk, but USA must rename/rebrand everything - god forbid they use an English aircraft.
It does seem really unfortunate / unnecessary. It’s a new sim, so it would be nice to build up the aircraft selection quickly. Also, they’re shooting themselves in the foot, as they will inevitably end up splitting the profits. Strange, but not much we can do about it. . .
Hahaha, well, since the slight majority of my audience is American, I disavow. . .
but yeah, it’s a Hawk : P
Actually you would be surprised just how different the Hawk and Goshawk really are, for starters they have different engines, the Hawk having the Adour with 6,500lb thrust and the Goshawk having the F405 with almost 1000lbs less thrust available, that coupled with a much heavier landing gear and arresting hook make this version of the 'Hawk' look like a slug in comparison. So really it's only a 'Hawk' by about 80% external looks.
@@MarcNewitt Thank you for the information. In terms of MSFS I discovered someone is developing a payware Hawk
@@MarcNewitt Yes, I know, ....
@@CaptVirtual really??.... then that is a really ignorant statement you just made because it's NOT just another Hawk, they are two completely different aircraft, may I suggest you do a little research next time.....
Biggest disappointment for me is that the HUD doesn't work with TAA (as stated by the publisher). I just can't fly with anything less that TAA, as even the slightest jaggies annoy me and break immersion. Hopefully this can be fixed at some point (understand it's a common problem with all HUDs, not just the T45).
Yeah, the HUD certainly isn’t ideal. As you say though, at least the publisher makes this clear (and I don’t think it’s their fault). It seems (for whatever reason) HUDs in civilian sims are just never really that great (doing a bit of P3D flying at the moment). . . Like you, I didn’t enjoy the sim with TAA off; so on the rare occasion I use the T45, I just ignore the HUD more or less. Shame. As you say, hopefully it’ll get fixed at some point.
Cheers!
Where so you get the aircraft carrier in MFS 2020?
You can get the freeware carrier used in the video from here:
forums.flightsimulator.com/t/freeware-aircraft-carrier-uk-us-locations/337378
But to get the catapult / arrester working, you will need the payware Carrier Module from Hard Deck Simulations.
Hope that helps : )
how does the flight model compare to a dcs flight model??
Not very favourably I would say. I do like the IFE T45, but the flight model (and the sounds) falls rather flat. I’ve never flown a T45, but the DCS version handles much more along the lines of what I would expect. The IFE version feels very clumsy in pitch, almost like you don’t have full elevator authority. It has very little interest in high rate turns etc and just feels generally heavy and underpowered.
Personally, having now used the DCS version and of course it offering a lot more utility overall, I don’t find myself using the MSFS version really.
Hope that helps. All the best!
23:00 what’s happening with the 2 and 3 button underneath the HUD?
Hi Oscar,
It’s just a rendering issue with MSFS unfortunately. This tends to occur quite often to some degree or another in the sim, particularly when there are shadows being cast over a surface (as there are at the moment you mentioned). Apparently it should be resolved when the sim is upgraded to DX12 : )
@@IntotheBlueSimulations oh cool. Cheers 🍻
Haha, you’re most welcome! : )
Need this for DCS where it can really shine.
@Mike Thompson It's a mod not a full module. The A-4 tram did an amazing job, but I still prefer full integration over mods.
@@Fred-rv2tu The problem is that ED have closed source the SDK and you have to set up as a full third party developer to access the SDK for DCS.
@@ExarchNZ I understand and I didn't mean to take anything away from the awesome mod teams. Its just my preference to not use mods.
@@Fred-rv2tu Um, this is basically a Mod too...
@@johnrowland2773 IFT is also taking their MB-339 that started life as a free mod for DCS and bringing it to study level for a paid release on DCS. If they can do thay for the 339 they xan do it for the Goshawk.
Idk if you have Dcs world or not? But Can you do a F5e cold start, flight in Dcs world
Hi Phil,
I do indeed have DCS and very much enjoy it! The F5E is one of my favourites actually. I see they’ve *finally* released a campaign for it and I was actually considering running through it on the channel. I’ll be sure to do a full start if I do so then.
I can’t really make any promises about as and when that series might be coming though, as I have a bit of a backlog of content at the moment.
Thanks very much for the suggestion though. All the best! : )
From memory:
Batt. Gen1 and 2. Anti collision.
Fuel left and right.
Ground crew air connect.
Ground crew air apply. Starter 1.
@10%- open left throttle.
GAir apply. Starter 2. At 10-open right throttle. When it’s idling disconnect ground. Set external and internal lights. Radios. Both limiters (behind throttle). Set counter measures. Uncage ADI
When ready for take off check airbrake up, flaps auto, landing lights on and nose gear extended. Make sure trim is +6-11 depending on weight. Vr 145-170
Yep, that all sounds about right and very succinct!
I did ultimately do a video covering it, but I waffled on for 20 minutes, covering what you’ve just described in a handful of sentences haha ; )
Unfortunately TH-cam deleted your comment on my T45 video (no idea why), but I saw just enough, to now need to apologise for giving you a nervous twitch haha! : P
I certainly wouldn’t profess to be an expert when it comes to anything carrier-related, really that was all just a bit of fun for the review (one could hardly review the T45 from land could they??). I have just downloaded the VNAO T45 though, definitely going to put that to good use and try and learn some more about all this carrier ops malarkey : )
All the best!
And I think that the sounds could do with some work.
Three important things in a sim... visuals and system depth, flight model, and SOUNDS. Agreed. Need lots of work. They are pretty... flat. Aircraft otherwise looks like a great start.
Yeah, whatever that was that passed for the engine sound when he left the carrier for the mountains sounded more like a Jetsons car than a jet fighter.
Yeah, they are rather flat, and have quite a high pitched whine to them (again, not to mention the overall lack of “noise”). It was actually a little uncomfortable listening to the external sounds for longer periods.
Haha, unfortunately so. I have a handheld vacuum cleaner that sounds somewhat similar as well. . . Hopefully they’ll address the engine sounds, as otherwise it’s a really stellar product! It’s amazing just how much sounds can change your overall impression of an addon though. . .
Where do you get that aircraft carrier for MSFS
The carrier itself is freeware from:
flightsim.to/file/4930/aircraft-carrier-uss-msfs-uk-mooring
But if you’d like a “working” catapult and arrester gear, you will need to purchase the Carrier Module from Hard Deck Simulations (this module will then come with its own carriers, or can be used with any other carrier / scenery).
Hope that helps : )
Do you haves videos on internal and external views?
Sorry Gary, I'm afraid I don't quite understand the question. Do you mean, have I made any videos detailing how I record the external shots etc? I haven't, but essentially I use this flight recorder whilst flying and then play the flight back and record the external shots thereafter:
flightsim.to/file/8163/flight-recorder
I hope that helps. Cheers!
@@IntotheBlueSimulations I’m looking for videos on how to use the different views in the sim.
Ahh, I see. I don’t have anything of the sort I’m afraid and I’m not really all that up to speed myself to be honest. I’m comfortable enough with the cockpit cam and the drone cam, but the rest of the functionality I very rarely use - I have no idea how to create custom cameras etc. Sorry I can’t be of more help on that one.
All the best!
The external engine sounds like a hairdryer :D
Haha, yeah unfortunately it’s pretty poor isn’t it.
They did update the aircraft, including engine sounds, but it’s not a whole lot better from what I’ve seen. Strange that it is *so* off, when the rest of the product is done to a nice standard. I don’t know if you’ve seen, but VNAO released a T45 for DCS recently. Now THAT’S how you do engine sounds! It sounds amazing.
Cheers Becky, all the best! : )