How To Accurately Degree Your Cam With No Special Tools
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 9 พ.ค. 2020
- It's not always practical or possible to go through all the text book steps when having to check or degree a camshaft. Here's a simple 10 minute method that you can use anytime and get repeatable, accurate results.
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Yeah, This is what I love about Uncle Tony!! Old school ways being past down the younger generation!!! The best part is he gives credit where it's due! Keith Black a true master mind!!! Tony you rock...when this virus stuff is over I want to hit the track with you and I will bring Casper!
@@kennshotts7258 yeah. You gotta be a computer scientist nowadays to work on cars.
@@kennshotts7258 That's exactly the same thing my Great Great Great Grand Pappy, said in 1932 when Henry Ford came out with the flathead V8. And just look at how much fun everybody had with the ultra modern stuff in the 50's, you know mechanical fuel injection, overhead valves, automatic transmissions in hot rods can you believe that! And then the kids turned their backs on the four cylinder hot rod builds, for all that new junk! Those poor kids back then forced into the modern hot rod scene of the 50's.
I've heard about this method but never met anyone who could actually do it, thanks _UT_ a great tip for another old wrench to have in the mental tool box! 😁👍🇺🇸
Yeah, in my brain box also saved video!!
This was by far the most amazing thing I learned when I was down there. Brilliant
I've done it using the degree wheel and dial indicator method. But this is a lot simpler!
Electrix and very quick
Been playing with engines for nearly 50 years, and I still learn stuff from UT almost every video they upload! Keep it up UT & UK.
All the best from Queensland Australia!
Yup. That is a 1st for this old fossil too.
Same here, we all know things valuable to pass on. I can't stand idiots who don't appreciate the other guys skill and share freely! Great hearing from our cousins from down under 😁👍!
Don Hansford yeh mate I’m only a 20 year tradesman but I’m the same. Love Tony’s vids. Hi from New South Wales
Uncle Tony eats lives and breathe this stuff....he is yoda
You know it's solid gold when Keith Black came up with it. Keep it rolling UTG!
It has been a long time since I've seen that done. An old family friend showed me how to do that when I was around 10 or so. I've used it myself people think I'm nuts you use what you know. When you did it on the live stream I had a grin on my face... It took me back to Sam and sons outside the side bay door monkeying around like he always did. A very pleasant memory in my world seems like a like a lifetime ago. Thanks for the re do. I enjoyed it.
I’m gonna say this is the best wrenching channel in TH-cam history. My man has more knowledge then anyone I’ve seen.
My brother use to do it this way. When I was younger I thought he was crazy, but he always had good running engines. I live the old school basic ways. They work well. Good stuff Tony.
I was taught by Old School @VALAITIS MOTOR SERV SOUTH PHILADELPHIA PA & YES ALFRED J VALAITIS WAS MY MENTOR , BOBBY NEWMAN' NEWMAN'S AUTO SERVICE TOO!
There are a few others I will dedicate at another time.
Keep up the good work. I've destroyed at least 3 slants in my time starting out & My dad did the same except all mine had pistons sent to outer space OUT DOING MY DAD ! 😂
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Your video on ignition timing was cool thanks uncle tony.
Can't beat Uncle Tony with a stick! Its not practice makes perfect, its perfect practice makes perfect...because you can be doing something wrong for 40yrs and never get it right. UT, someone taught you right the first time, and we are the lucky ones you are sharing this knowledge with. Eternally humble. TY :)
I had heard of this method years ago but you are the first to actually show it being done thank you slot
Was taught that about 55 years ago when I was an apprentice mechanic. Gets you with in a degree or two.nice to see .
Hell yes man...I bet there is quite a few gearheads that never knew this trick. I sure didn't, always learn something no matter how long you've been doing it
That was great. I've never degreed a camshaft in using a wheel. But I always build the same motor.
The 375 horse Chevy 350 with hydraulic cam. I always use a new true roller timing chain and the new Woodruff key. Great video, short, sweet, and informative.
thank you
You’re lazy too !
Appreciate that Tony , I asked Uncle Kathy for this and you guys delivered !!!
Thanks for sharing this. I've been waiting since the marathon build.
Keith Black. The man, the myth, the legend! 👍
Great tip about preloading the cam in the direction of rotation, great days to you Tony !
Love the simple method. This information is gold. Thanks Uncle Tony! 🙂👍👍
That’s true experience & knowledge. You are the guru Uncle Tony!
Cheers😊
Thank you for doing a detailed explanation on this, I watched it live and wasn't really following what was going on. And now I have a great reference to go straight back to. As usual, thanks for another great video.
Simplicity. Logical no nonsense Uncle Tony methodology. Thanks a ton.
I knew there was a simple way to do this. I also knew you would know how to do it. I'm rebuilding my 302 and it will get a new timing chain so I needed to make sure it's all timed correctly. I'll be using this method for sure. Thanks man.
Uncle Tony all ways has the best way of explaining things Gold Mine of knowledge thanks UTG
Weeeew!!! Great video tony!! I tried my best to keep up and absorb the most info I could. Your the man. A complete mechanic You have probably forgotten more info than most people know. Thank for doing what you do.
Thanks UT, another great informative video. This sort of stuff is priceless. 👍
Im in my mid 30's now and i remember learnin this in the shed at home with my dad teachin me this method although i regularly have the time to setup the cam degree wheel and dial indicator. He is a fireman with car/engine builder/home fab and machinist. I've still got his 25ish yr old Keith Black Racing Engines black logo on white circle emblem tshirt with the blown KB in the center 😂 i only wear it on special occasions now ie fireups or breakins and my future wedding 😂. We used and i was shown alot of old school techniques and principles as they were just that, more accurate than any spec sheet or more focused to its performance requirement. Thank You once again Tony for these reminders on the best ways to get a job done and your knowledge bank, your a "truth" man and they are gettin hard to find these days.
Thanks so much tony for this video! I havent seen any other tutorial or how to degree a cam like this, I'm Absolutly going to start using this method!
You're a wonder to watch, Uncle T. I'm at that advanced stage in mechanics to where I know that gas makes car go and soap makes car shiny. Yet watching the engine surgeon in you is both fascinating and enjoyable. Bravissimo, Mechanical Maestro.
Awesome stuff here, the likes of which you won't see anywhere else - and now it's preserved for all posterity.
Future generations, if they're smart, will refer to Tony's videos for guidance.
You know what would be a great follow up to this video?
Having a degree wheel set up on the engine and seeing that the KB method agrees with it!
-Ed on the Ridge
Thank goodness for TH-cam gold like this...
That's a really cool method. Thanks for the knowledge Uncle Tony
Excellent info, Uncle Tony! Thank you!
I used to pit crew for a guy who made his own camshaft grinds and he was crazy about asymmetric cam lobes and degrees of overlap he used to painfully (OCD) adjust his engines using a very similar method to this..he would map the movement of the internals on paper like a graph and work on it in testing for days until he got results..lots of bent rods n blown motors but we got results on pump fuel that others never came close to...thems were the days...thanks again uncle tony.
3 cheers for UT. Great explanation sweet and simple. Not only can he do it. He can teach motorhead 101. Master tech
I've never actually seen someone do this, only heard of it....Thank you for sharing, and I will be using this for sure
Thanks UT! Learn something new every video.
This is the most "Barney Style" explanation or method I have ever seen. I actually get how to do this now.
This is awesome U.T. I’m going to double check the timing on the 403 I’m putting together in the 79 T/A I bought for my son.
Hey U.T!
This is really smart, and probably More accurate than a degree wheel.
On your statement early on about triple checking, you're not being OCD, it's called being thorough and it's one of the things that makes you an authority and good at what you do!
I've been an engine builder for 40+ years - not putting the parts together but the real deal - and I'd never seen nor heard of this method, it's always been the degree wheel method.
By comparison, the degree wheel deal is more involved and a bit of a pain in the ass - a lot of ways a beginner can make mistakes.
Thanks for the heads up, U.T.
You can also buy a dial tool that screws into the spark plug hole for TDC. Very accurate and cheap too. With this tool and the straight edge ruler and feeler gauge for cam setting, this is more accurate than the degree wheel method because with the degree wheel, you can only 'eyeball' it.
Great vid, I'm looking forward to the next vid on effects. I've never messed with mechanical timing adjustments
Awesome video. Yes more cam videos please, thank you!
I was helping on a top fuel car in the 60's and they were running a Engle cam. The guys at Engle cams told up how to do this. The car had a Donovan gear drive on the cam and we were able to tune/change cam timing at the track, depending on the track condations. Back in that time frame cam timing was considered something that few people understood. Running out of a small midwest town in a two car gargage we were able to trailer numerous big name racers including Don Garlits.
You know.... sometimes I sure wish there was a love button.... thanks UT... I never knew this.. and its awesomeness.. love the vid... now I am excited to see your old skool techniques your going to drop on us with the camshaft video. I know the textbook stuff fairly well. But this is way cool.
Your a bloody genius Uncle Tony
Thanks for sharing your knowledge and for telling it like you do
No ego no bullshit
Thanks mate and i you ever come to Australia i,ll buy you a beer or 3
Thanks uncle Tony really found this video interesting and informative awesome channel l watch it every day regards Anthony from down under hi uncle Kathy
I'd buy Tony a house next to mine just to have him next door for my restoration build...LOL
Brought to you by Dicks Deli Sausage! You're doing this when your cam and crank marks are dot to dot, not on the compression stroke, I always got confused that dot to dot is the compression stroke, but it's not. Cool tip that I will compare to the conventional method, just so that I can learn both.
Always welcome information Boss, thanks Uncle Tony and Auntie Kathy..
Happy Mothers Day Kathy..
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I haven't seen that method used by someone else in I'm almost 50 years. It's quick and it's accurate. Please do a video on phasing a distributor.
Very cool, UT! Thanks for showing that. A request I asked for a while back.
I have agree using both the degree wheel and a feeler gauge, the gauge is what I use to compare and make sure. I still use dial indicators to find exact cross overs and split hairs.
Thanks Tony that makes perfect sense for the first time ever 👍
Thanks Uncle Tony keep it coming
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Agree! I have some on my 360 and they do job flawlessly!! Not a hiccup!
That's a quick easy way to do it with minimal tools. I'm going to have to put that one in my back pocket. Genius!!!
I've been trying to learn how to degree cams for years, and you are the only one could actually tell me, or take the time.
I went into this thinking this was gonna be a joke.. guy is a genius 👏
Great tutorial UT, cool stuff. I've never been explained that before. 👍
Again Uncle Tony strikes again , no fancy computers , tools just some good ol fashioned know how . Today’s mechanics need the help of a computer to diagnose problems , which is fine but take that same mechanic and have him try to use his brain and hands on techniques , can guarantee he couldn’t repair it . Your the man Uncle Tony .
I read about this more than 20 years ago in a magazine. Didn’t remember it was Keith Black’s method, but that doesn’t surprise me. When they did it, they used 17mm sockets in place of the lifters for some reason and read off of those. I couldn’t remember the specifics, but I remembered the feeler gauge! Cool then. Cool now.
Thanks for this info. This will be soooooo helpful.
PURE GOLD!!!!! Thank you Uncle Tony!!!!
Cruisin aint a crime
Great stuff 👍 my man, thanks! Um, now what's a camshaft? Lol! That bike has a crazy sound system in it from the looks of it! Thanks again y'all!!! I can't wait to see that Dart run, the 70-71 is probably my favorite incarnation of it. Happy motoring!!!
I'm restoring a 1976 Moto Guzzi 1000 and i don't have a degree wheel but i'm thinking i could use the tops of the retainers but to be perfectly honest the mental image i got was going off the tops of the push rods. It's a true push rod hemi and really only lacks ideal spark plug placement. Which means it runs a fair amount of ignition lead to get the best performance. Really glad i saw this because although i try to use critical, common sense thinking in life and in metal fabrication and in mechanical endeavours it's not assured that i would have considered this.
I love tips and tricks like this great info bud
Very good explanation. Well done
I got a lot out of this one Tony, thanks.
I can understand it a lot better now ut you made it alot simpler in my head for me
You're an undercover genius UT!!!
Thanks for this video!! Great information. Definitely just as fool proof as a degree wheel.
Thanks for the knowledge
During the live engine build I was wondering how you knew the difference in lifter height was .012 for that build. Now I know, .006 of an inch equals 2 Deg. got It. and thanks.
more wisdom from utg. thanks for the video!
Uncle Tony thank you for that very informative video, I really enjoy all your videos. It's really appreciated by us all that you're willing to share your knowledge and experience.
Thank you so much, I’ll try this and see where I am at
Important stuff you won't learn ANYWHERE ELSE.
@@jeffparris8387 I guess I'll have to look up Steve Dulcich...
@@jeffparris8387 Oh, he's one of the motor trend guys... I don't watch the big commercial guys much, but it's cool that they cover some of the old school repair methods. Most of those big channels just have old school cars and repair them with new school methods.
@@jeffparris8387 As a mechanic myself, I'll trust another mechanic who's been working on real cars to make a living rather than a guy who works on "projects" with corporate sponsorship. But to each his own.
@@jeffparris8387 Well, I don't know how you know how long I've been turning wrenches, but the ability to set points with a matchbook and time it by ear is something far more impressive than doing it "by the book". Anybody can use a timing light, but most people who HAVE to use a timing light usually don't know any old school tricks like Tony here shows on nearly every video. There is a big difference between the "do it yourselfers" who THINK they know what they are doing, and the guys like Tony who actually do things right in unconventional ways.
@@jeffparris8387 Timing by ear/feel is magic? How about static timing without a light?
There's nothing wrong with being a "by the book" mechanic, but when that book isn't available, that's when people call guys like me and Tony who actually understand how things are engineered and can create a way to diagnose, tune, ect... without having to be taught how to do it.
I Like this, thanks Tony! Bravo!
Great. Made total sense!!!! Thanks
Alright children quiz time:
Q)
What is the common theme in ALL of Uncle Tony's videos???
A)
All of the technology in the world cannot replace good ol' fashion know how
And getting good results without re-mortgaging your house!
We learn for FREEEE!! Tony loves us
Great stuff thanks uncle tony
an other hot tip, I have watch this over and over
this makes total sense to me...wow..I really got it and I am not a smart man. Thank you.
Wow so much involved i just saw u hovering had no idea what u were doing.
Such a badass old school method.
Timeless tech!
Thank you Uncle Tony!
Just learned another great tip!
Good tip, especially checking all the lobes
Love it! Thanks
Thanks. Great video!!!!
This is awesome. Could you do this by measuring the difference in the pushrods on a ford inline 6 due to the lifters being tucked away? I have adjustable rockers so I’m sure the springs won’t be as accurate. Thank you!!
Wow! Where did you learn all this great stuff!! I am a 55 year old crazy hot rodder and this is the best explanation of how to degree a cam that i have ever seen! I cant wait to try it on my current c3 454 build. Also the air shock on the right side only was awesome too. Thanks for all the info that just isnt available anywhere else.
Thank you for the info-it’s 2:30am and you saved my ass from having to wait till the morning to get a degree wheel!!
Great stuff UC ... really cool oldschool .. next time cycle the stat on the cooler so we can hear you better 😂😂😂
Great info. I enjoy receiving the knowledge. Does this method also work with roller cams? Building a flat-tappet frankenstein 427 Dart block Windsor. I'll use this method. I generally try to sit at 4° depending on cam mftr specs. This will be a dirt circle track engine with close to 700hp.
Thanks for showing telling, now I can time my 460 v8 the right way. Thanks again see you next time see ya bye
Thank you!
Again thanks for the video