How Saryn Destroyed Warframe

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 21 ส.ค. 2024
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    Saryn has always been a dominating force in the Warframe Meta, going as far as becomming the number one Warframe for many players. Saryn is super powerful, we all know that, but the real question is, how? How did Saryn impact the game on release and how did she evolve over time through the updates and patches. Well today, we take a deep dive into the history of Saryn.
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  • @NovaUmbral
    @NovaUmbral  ปีที่แล้ว +148

    Support me directly via Patreon!
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    Hey everyone, hope you enjoyed this Saryn video!
    Here is the Nourish build seen in video: th-cam.com/video/j1Um2JaGUkM/w-d-xo.html
    Build was from GazTTV
    As for the Miasma changes during 2.0 the initial miasma was strong and players did talk about how powerful it was on release, there ironically isn't too much information about this so if you know more about this early version of 2.0 Miasma then please do lemme know, I had help from Truthseeker and -Xii with that section.
    As for the next frame it will be Octavia! Comment down below what frame you want to see next after her, runner-ups will be in a poll for everyone to vote at my community tab
    Thank you all for the support as always

    • @naufahupowell8913
      @naufahupowell8913 ปีที่แล้ว

      😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

    • @xuanhiepluong4798
      @xuanhiepluong4798 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Can you talk about limbo, since he is so underated , he need some voice

    • @Benzinilinguine
      @Benzinilinguine ปีที่แล้ว +12

      It's my-as-muh. You said it correctly.
      The British pronunciation is "mee-ass-ma".

    • @dr.calibrations7984
      @dr.calibrations7984 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Benzinilinguine FISH N CHIPS!

    • @rssasorirssasori9387
      @rssasorirssasori9387 ปีที่แล้ว

      SARYN older warframe model ( not prime) was SOOO much sexier....
      Ps her damage is BULLSHIT! DE should make her spores do only toxin damage - NOT CORROSIVE!

  • @kennethfocarino7075
    @kennethfocarino7075 ปีที่แล้ว +1183

    In addition to her ridiculous power, let’s not pretend the “oooh let’s see how high I can get the spore dmg” mini game is very fun and satisfying.

    • @NovaUmbral
      @NovaUmbral  ปีที่แล้ว +72

      Oh most certainly!

    • @babapambazuka2845
      @babapambazuka2845 ปีที่แล้ว +54

      True. I often like to play Saryn as a support in noobish squads where I just spread spores, strip armor, let _them_ Rip and Tear, and only uncork Miasma if somebody goes down and I want time to revive them.

    • @ItzBirdMan1337
      @ItzBirdMan1337 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      100% I can drop spores on survival, melee, run down a hallway, hit another, get 5 or 6 enemies infected, hit miasma, and run up to 16 to 20 enemies infected and a infection meter up to like 600. You can SHRED level 50 to 60 trash in seconds this way

    • @blaxai6485
      @blaxai6485 ปีที่แล้ว +42

      Lets not pretend the mini game is fun? It is very fun imo

    • @andyharley2644
      @andyharley2644 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Idk, Warframe is one of my go to games for when I have a desire to massacre hordes of goons, and Saryn is a very satisfying tool to do that with.

  • @PhenonIV
    @PhenonIV ปีที่แล้ว +803

    Saryn is a cornerstone of warframe. Its bassicly the frame that makes new players realize how much damage is possible if you know the game well. "Oh, you like excalibur huh? Well do I have a video to show you"
    She is just the living embodiment of a warcrime that is usefull in any mission type that requires fast killing. And, shockers, that bassicly is the essence of Warframe.

    • @NeuralSensei
      @NeuralSensei ปีที่แล้ว +34

      Lmao remember when abilities buffed railjack turrets? Saryn was meta for RJ dps too

    • @MetroidPurples
      @MetroidPurples ปีที่แล้ว +3

      *Basically

    • @JustSendMeLocationPlease
      @JustSendMeLocationPlease ปีที่แล้ว +37

      Why even run defense frames anymore when you can have infinite scaling damage and wipe the map before they even get close to the objective.

    • @Amirifiz
      @Amirifiz ปีที่แล้ว +12

      First time I saw Sayrin I beelined it to the mission to farm her. It took me the longest time to reach near max range to get the "infect the world" level of nonsense. I think it was a little after they changed spores to corrosive that I got overextended.

    • @PhenonIV
      @PhenonIV ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@MetroidPurples shatap lil bro

  • @SwedetasticGames
    @SwedetasticGames ปีที่แล้ว +354

    Small correction: alot of people realized early in the rework that Saryn now was endgame king of endurance missions, however: for it to work, you needed a stable way to build and maintain Spore stacks. However before like 1h into a Survival mission, Spore's killed enemies too fast to gain stacks leaving you energy starved while being swarmed by high damage. This also made her kit... Very bad for low level missions, as you would spend most of your energy bar to try and spread Spores and then Miasma but both abilities killed enemies so fast in combo you couldn't maintain spores. It was an awkward time :P

    • @indrickboreale7381
      @indrickboreale7381 ปีที่แล้ว +36

      Nidus and Harrow are in that awkward spot as well - pretty mid in low levels, but stupidly strong on high level content

    • @regifanfrrson7935
      @regifanfrrson7935 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      my low str build with max range was made just for that

    • @Benzinilinguine
      @Benzinilinguine ปีที่แล้ว +23

      @@regifanfrrson7935 strength governs spore stat chance. You need around 210% to get 100%. You ever notice spore just sometimes...doesn't stick? Yeah, that's why.

    • @fishcake4473
      @fishcake4473 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      at that time the way to go was boosting ignis and spraying or occasional room clearing with miasma (on low level).

    • @krmunoz2169
      @krmunoz2169 ปีที่แล้ว

      THIS. I use mainly a no-range build focusing on Venom dose, Toxic Lash and Xata's Whisper for weapons buffs + Molt speed, 90% of the gameplay spore spread is absolutely a hassle and not needed, it breaks too much.

  • @disk24
    @disk24 ปีที่แล้ว +87

    I remember picking up Saryn after an early rework and seeing people complain that miasma wasn't the focus anymore. Spores are so fun; watching numbers pop up and spread is really satisfying

    • @arhamhaziq4276
      @arhamhaziq4276 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Bruh, those spores (and any stacking system warframe) are the reason I build Saryn...
      And for her design too. I use green and black color to copy the look of Shego from Kimpossible

    • @truli91
      @truli91 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Miasma was never the main prioriy. Saryn rewark remove putting spore on clone then hitting it.

  • @YasaiTsume
    @YasaiTsume 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +58

    There was one part of Saryn 2.0 that people don't often speak of due to how difficult it was to grasp its concept and application:
    *The Gas Lanka epidemic*
    Back then Gas wasn't really "Gas" but actually a proc effect that applied a burst of Toxin damage in its AoE followed by a cloud that applied Toxin. Now what people missed entirely was how Spores interacted with Critical Gas procs which resulted in one very niche build which was arguably even more broken than her "Spam Spores" room clear build, and that's just to apply 1 Spore within a crowd, and snipe the enemy for a Gas proc that 1 started a pandemic which spread several tiles.

    • @robertharp16
      @robertharp16 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Ive never seen anyone else mention this I stumbled on it accidently when I was running around with a gas build on the fragor prime, loved that vertion of saryn

  • @TheOldest
    @TheOldest ปีที่แล้ว +64

    Been loving this series, that you do a full retrospective on each Warframe's meta and how it's changed over the years and then cover their current meta is a real refreshing coverage of the game.
    I started playing Warframe around 7 years ago so listening to these old builds really takes me back.

    • @ekronb5287
      @ekronb5287 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Fr I been playing for 7+ too but take big breaks so it’s nice to catch up on different meta

  • @brightenblack207
    @brightenblack207 ปีที่แล้ว +413

    I wish every Warframe was so cohesive. Could you talk about Nekros eventually? He's a one-trick pony that doesn't do anything particularly well besides farming. Others have easier ways to tank and deal damage. His gimmick is his shadows but not only are they inconsistent with no real way to control them, his terrify and soul punch go completely against it as they force enemies further away, spreading out your minions and reducing your DPS further.

    • @indrickboreale7381
      @indrickboreale7381 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      Slow Nekros is very funny - you replace your 1 with Valkyr's battlercry, put augment on your Terrify and slow enemies to death

    • @andrewwilliams3207
      @andrewwilliams3207 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      I've been doing everything with Nekros lately. Arcane blessing made him very viable.

    • @beeleuazevedo8142
      @beeleuazevedo8142 ปีที่แล้ว +42

      I think you're underestimating nekros

    • @brightenblack207
      @brightenblack207 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@beeleuazevedo8142 I'm not saying he can't do anything. Though he has problems, I use him for literally everything outside of capture. It's just that a lot of warframes do activities easier than he can and don't have as many obstacles dealing damage, tanking, or setting up to damage and/or tank

    • @Khtras
      @Khtras ปีที่แล้ว +12

      You are severely underselling Nekros. I have made mine unkillable. That is thanks to his 4 with the Augment, Gloom instead of his 1, all the health orbs that drop often thanks to Desecrate. Terrify makes enemies extremely vulnerable and flee, so they don't attack. Just for extra flex, I gave Arcane Eruption to knockdown enemies and Arcane Blessing even though Nekros never loses more than 100 health when he is used.
      So in short, Nekros is great at farming, which also helps him in combat by a lot, he is a natural killer and CC user, and is extremely hard to kill.

  • @DragonCaller1
    @DragonCaller1 ปีที่แล้ว +88

    People have no idea how busted Excal was back in the day, or how broken Frost was. or heck how you were immortal with a good trinity player. or how Ember Made people rage quit because they never had a chance to kill anything specially in Survival missions where you could sit as ember and not have to move for 40mins straight, The good ol days.

    • @Leo17453
      @Leo17453 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      ash was the definition of press 4 to win too, just stab the entire room in the face

    • @theeenforcer4669
      @theeenforcer4669 ปีที่แล้ว

      How was frost broken? I probably started way after that. Though i love Frost and wanna know how he was a god

    • @DragonCaller1
      @DragonCaller1 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@theeenforcer4669 Well Frost could put up his Frost Shield endlessly stacking, made him the best choice for most if not all missions.

    • @kennylaysh2776
      @kennylaysh2776 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      ​@DragonCaller1 Didn't last long if I recall. His shields would pop too fast scaling at higher levels. I sometimes miss the simplicity of early beta, when I had 5 warframe choices. It's a little crazy to come back after a couple year break.

    • @DragonCaller1
      @DragonCaller1 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@kennylaysh2776 Well we did have a strength mod for a while there but that part of it was changed to make area smaller, But it was a nice 4-5 months. And remember his shield would stack on top of one another, so even if one was to break you have 5+ more to compensate. And yea i miss the simplicity of beta a bit, don't get me wrong the new content is nice and all but it is leading to content bloat big time.

  • @Kahara101
    @Kahara101 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Saryn is the reason I'm still playing Warframe. I tried to get into it for a while but had some issues. My friend kept saying "no don't use plat just grind for everything" but it wasn't fun. So, I bought her (and Nyx) and... I fell in love with the game. It was fun, and I'm now hundreds of hours in because of my toxic relationship with her.

    • @notflamingsuns
      @notflamingsuns 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

      For real on the don't use plat one, I get that it's much better long term to grind for it and save plat but I'm not going to last a long time if i just keep grinding for every single thing in the game 😅

  • @Buggyismellow
    @Buggyismellow ปีที่แล้ว +17

    God. Taking through a blast from the past. I played saryn since her day of release, pre prime.
    I haven’t played warframe in 2 years and I’m surprised I got recommended a video, had to see this saryn video.
    Saryn prime was my favorite warframe and this makes me want to play again.

  • @hippiemonk5995
    @hippiemonk5995 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    This series is great, good work sir. I know revenant is a relatively newer warframe and doesn't have quite the same history as some of these, but it could be fun to talk about how a warframe that got relegated to ballerina meme spin to win builds, ended up being an immortal warframe, with crazy dps set ups and the go to archon hunter. I always thought it was weird people didn't realize how good he was when he came out lol

    • @amolistic_
      @amolistic_ ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Is not like people didn't realize it, the problem is that revenant is very boring to play and showcase for TH-cam videos, he is just that uninteresting for a video showcase, people will tend to watch azninvasions showcasing another cool and intriguing synergy that they can try themselves rather than just...tank.
      He does one job and does it very well. That is all.
      Although his 1,3,4 having some serious issues to get begin with, his 2 alone carried him very much 90% of the time, he literally jumped from B- to A+ or S- tier just by a buff on his 2 after eximus update, so does a nerf will have him banished into the depths of not viable at all.
      He is very one-sided, you rarely can have fun and flexible builds with him, tbh.
      Even rhino can try out tons of possible ability synergy with helminth systems due to roar and iron skin, even though he is almost as boring as revenant due to straightforward, standalone abilities that he had.
      Tldr: he is well known to be very good, but he has a very uninteresting kit that doesn't incentivize much gameplay variety and showcase due to severely lacking build variety, thus not many ppl talk about him.

  • @ekronb5287
    @ekronb5287 ปีที่แล้ว +48

    I love how you go in details over past meta. I’ve been playing before mele2.0 but I take big breaks. Last time I played was when endless void ended and new relic system was added. So it’s great to see all the meta and catch up

    • @klove5974
      @klove5974 ปีที่แล้ว

      What do you think of THAT switch?

    • @DefinitelyNotTheRealFugzor
      @DefinitelyNotTheRealFugzor ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@klove5974 i dont like relics. I enjoyed t4 survival keys. It was a test for skill and power. relics can go away.

  • @princesscadance197
    @princesscadance197 ปีที่แล้ว +85

    DE making Helminth subsume: 'What ability should Saryn give?'
    Saryn: **Bursts through the door* 'Let's give everyone the ability to rip off their skin!'

    • @loafofbread9400
      @loafofbread9400 ปีที่แล้ว

      Shed skin?

    • @thethoughtexperiment8990
      @thethoughtexperiment8990 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah, Molting..

    • @Sraye
      @Sraye ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@thethoughtexperiment8990lol imagine giving Spores to everyone, yeah, they'd probably remove the damage stacking mechanic if they did.

  • @ThornedLily
    @ThornedLily ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I started playing like 2 days before Saryn was released, and she was the first frame I ever farmed parts for (with a friend's help, of course) because as soon as I saw her, I knew I had found my primary warframe. I've taken massive breaks from the game since then, but to this day she's still the first frame I get on after a long hiatus because no matter how much she's changed over the years, Saryn is my comfort frame.

    • @planetfixer
      @planetfixer 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You've revealed so much about yourself unintentionally

  • @damingwang3728
    @damingwang3728 ปีที่แล้ว +74

    Since you've talked about why lots of frames are good I think it would be interesting to see a video about why tentacle daddy hydroid is a complete failure

    • @hippiemonk5995
      @hippiemonk5995 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      He has so much potential to be cool lol. He can spread quite a few elements to the battle field making him a good CO warframe, to bad he can't tank. He can crowd control really well, to bad you're completely useless in the puddle, and the enemies are flopping around everywhere with kraken so goodluck killing them. His one should reduce armor like shattering impact with out an augment, his 2 should be replaced with something to help his survivability, Puddle should be a trap you set in doorways, and his 4 should pin enemies to the ground or the nearest wall and it should follow you if you cast puddle on it

    • @fishcake4473
      @fishcake4473 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Have you considered how Yareli does better water element shenanigans than tentacle man? It's a sad world for hydroid mains (all 3 of them)

    • @Walt_Chocolate
      @Walt_Chocolate ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@fishcake4473 sigh...make that 4. Funny enough he's never been Nerfed directly. The game just evolved around him then he fell behind.

    • @Walt_Chocolate
      @Walt_Chocolate ปีที่แล้ว

      @@hippiemonk5995 it'd be great if his 2 and 3 were mixed together and given a water form. Maybe even change his passive to enable 3 or 4 hemilith abilities.

    • @Hengilore
      @Hengilore ปีที่แล้ว +4

      ​thats DE fault ,they expend to much time on nerfing the current meta because they can admit they made a dynasty warriors game and try to fix it nerfing in it rather than improve alternatives playstyles

  • @XC11301991
    @XC11301991 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Saryn has always been good and usable for most of the content that existed at the time of each iteration. From early days where infested Xini was the most popular farm, and as you stated the corrupted mods for negative duration build really assisted in amping up her Miasma damage, increasing the ticks it did. When her spores were changed it became such a great AOE damage dealer that was better than what Miasma ever was, but people didn't really understand how the spores worked. She was so good for oldschool T4 Defense as now her spore scaled off her weapons, and I personally would use a gas Lanka build. Start one target with a Spore and then shoot that target and watch how the spore spread to all enemies and those enemies in the map take that initial damage too from my gas procced Lanka. You'd see enemies get map cleared now from this new gas weapon + spore combo that had much better scaling than Miasma. I found it strange with how strong she was DE decided to rework spores again, but I can see why. Making it much easier and simpler to use to aoe wipe, but it needing to build up a bit instead of a not well known mechanic setup to map wipe. I think Saryn is one of the few Warframes that have been consistently good in her whole existence. I like to consider Warframes up to about Valkyr are pretty much the OG set of Warframes, and she's been treated the best throughout her life. The rest have had very weird ups and downs and treatment by DE.

  • @MegaNekoPower
    @MegaNekoPower ปีที่แล้ว +16

    As the Founder who named her I'm more then happy to always see videos about Saryn.
    Love my daughter, praise her... yessss

  • @gramfero
    @gramfero ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Ballas may have been thinking with his balls when he made saryn, but that may also have been the best thing he did.

  • @shayminthedoctor9663
    @shayminthedoctor9663 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    When I first played Seryn, I didn't give her much attention. I was just grinding out mastery xp and she was unranked in my armory.
    I then max ranked and formaed her twice
    I don't even have a good build for her yet, but she has peeked my interest

  • @bellsama6588
    @bellsama6588 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    When I got Saryn I already had Gara which is just Lvl of dumb broken fun but Saryn found her place and maaaaan she do be fun.

  • @totallysick88able
    @totallysick88able 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I just unlocked her and even having no idea what I was really doing and with almost no mods or max lvl, I was doing massive cc. I might actually like this frame!

  • @JCperfection
    @JCperfection ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wow, it's been 5 years since I've played Warframe. When I saw your video on my feed, I just had to watch it. What a trip down memory lane!! I really love your research and your skill recap at the end. Looks like I'll have to binge-watch all your videos. Keep doing Lotus' work, my dude!

  • @swernerv
    @swernerv ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Bro, I think you're the only person on earth that can do a video on Dark Sector. And I mean the nodes in every planet, I don't know if there's video of it, but it was actually a pvp mode. You could even gvg with your clan and it was wild. Clans could actually charge for ppl to farm there. Ppl talk about raids but no one mentions those and they were quite fun

  • @1110100110
    @1110100110 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Fyi, you can fix the whiting pixelation on the edges of your Warframe 1:45-1:50 by adjusting your AA, specifically TXAA usually causes this when it's too high. Another issue that's common is shadows being set too high.
    Dail a few of these settings back, and your image quality will zoom. You will absolutely not notice the difference unless you're playing on a 16k Samsung panel. Even in 4k, with a few settings notched to medium like shadows/TXAA, your image quality will be WAY better without those whiting pixels.

  • @ZeroKitsunei
    @ZeroKitsunei ปีที่แล้ว +3

    My favorite Saryn build is a high range and power build, with Gloom in place of Molt. It pretty much makes her unkillable. Honestly there might be more meta builds with roar for more damage, or Nourish for more team support. But I really do like the fire and forget nature of gloom.

  • @TheSketcher3000
    @TheSketcher3000 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Little late to the party, but old school Saryn 4 was so good because of a few things:
    1) Her old Miasma was so good because of the old damage system. Back then poison damage would directly damage health by ignoring shields and armor. Therefore enemy levels/shields/armor really didn't matter seeing as her damage type would apply straight to health no matter what.
    2) Her old Miasma also was affected by duration. Therefore you could mod for negative duration and deal thousands of poison damage pretty much instantly.
    These two things did make everything except her 2 and sometimes 3 useful for anything. 3 was sometimes fun for the old spin2win attack. You totally got it with the 1 button issue her old version had.

  • @pdj2975
    @pdj2975 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Saryn with gas on lesion melee and arcane on ele proc is stupid with venom dose and roar, gas clouds everywhere and lesions unique effect is so good

  • @themambawarrior2290
    @themambawarrior2290 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Saryn has been my favorite frame since the original rework, and I was only surprised by the second rework. It didn't feel like she needed one, but what we got was an excellent boost.

  • @jamming8519
    @jamming8519 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I just wish I could find a video that walks you through the steps to utilize her the right way! Especially for end game stuff!

  • @goncalomoncarcho9179
    @goncalomoncarcho9179 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Gotta love the eurobeat playing in the back while Saryn spins like a beyblade through the void.

  • @krisztiangal9348
    @krisztiangal9348 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Much credits to you, for doing all this research and effort into a video

  • @zukabazuka
    @zukabazuka ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I'm gonna be honest, Nova was the strongest warframe in the old version. Her ultimate would slow all enemies in 40m radius, apply an explosion capable of reaching 20m something and it was instant. The moment a Nova came in she would just use ultimate and shoot a single enemy clearing pretty much everything on the map and more. It was just amazing at killing things plus enemies took double damage from your weapon so it was pretty OP.

  • @g4m3rwolf80
    @g4m3rwolf80 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Saryn has a increased health damage aoe with Miasma, Taunt Dummy + Speed, DoT+Spread to all Enemies within range (increased damage after Miasma) and attacks deal additional toxin damage and 2x for Melee

    • @g4m3rwolf80
      @g4m3rwolf80 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I've used her so much for leveling any of my weapons in survivals or defense because she would just instantly (depending) kill all enemies in the area.

  • @xaviercross8951
    @xaviercross8951 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    i remember the first rework of spores and the introduction of ESO . u just put spore on an enemy and it will spread when killed. and the damage ramp was so fast it would insta clear the room. the respawn of enemies was not fast enough for the spores.

  • @eliaspanayi3465
    @eliaspanayi3465 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Saryn is so good but I can never play her because for some reason I can't get the enemies to spawn fast enough so they can die

  • @Mortiferous89
    @Mortiferous89 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Its been years since i last played...i remember when spore spam with max range and duration was the go to, i found it incredibly fun seeing numbers pop up everywhere. Last time i played the meta was damage and a little bit of duration. Whenever Mesa prime came out was when i played last lol. Kinda thinking of getting back into it

  • @nPhlames
    @nPhlames ปีที่แล้ว +2

    saryn prime was the newest warframe when i first started playing, so naturally she was my first prime. no regrets 🙌

  • @undercoverbreadbug2723
    @undercoverbreadbug2723 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Seeing old warframe is so strange now, I'd almost forgotten what it looked like. It's as if it's an completely different game and we're playing Warframe 2.

  • @SuitorASMR
    @SuitorASMR ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The problem with Saryn is
    why would i bother with a new frame?
    who have like 100 mechanics that need to work in perfect synergy to deal HALF her damage

  • @edwardpaddock2528
    @edwardpaddock2528 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I think you mean a 'Walking Geneve Convention VIOLATION', rather than a 'Walking Geneva Convention'. (As those two things are roughly the opposite of each other.)
    If she prevented status effects, you could make a case for her being the former.

  • @yzermanrice7802
    @yzermanrice7802 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    She can armorstrip again, this aged well 👨‍🦯

  • @kawaiisnake8201
    @kawaiisnake8201 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I absolutely love these kinds of videos. Going in depth on a single frame is very entertaining imo.

  • @ShimoNova-R.H.D
    @ShimoNova-R.H.D ปีที่แล้ว

    Yeah we definitely need more long-form essay Warframe yter's like you, keep at it

  • @blablalolilol
    @blablalolilol ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So, you are wrong about saryn (very) early days, regarding venom. it did low damage, that's right, but the spores could stack on top of each other, and the AoE wasn't that bad. with a weapon and some punch through, you could pop a spore on enemy A, then pop two stacked spores on enemy B, then pop 4 stacked spores on enemy C. exponential progression. it was EXTREMELY strong, way stronger than miasma, especially for endless missions. the only problem (which is why it wasn't widely used) was that tens of thousands of spores stacked on each other on every enemy around you tended to crash peoples computers (either CTD if you were lucky, otherwise a BSOD), until they removed the spores ability to stack (update 9.7 "fixed performance issues with venom") and then she became a miasma bot.

  • @PorckChop-mk3pw
    @PorckChop-mk3pw ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If you replace her clone with Sevagoth's Gloom skill, add some range, about %150 power strength and an aoe weapon for Acolytes. Use spores, spread them with your weapon and then use your 4th skill and voila, those steel path enemies literally melt before your very eyes

  • @Yurrrrr
    @Yurrrrr ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Always wait for these😮‍💨

  • @NeuralSensei
    @NeuralSensei ปีที่แล้ว +7

    In all the changes she always had something to make her meta, it used to be toxin damage weapons scaling the molt spores spam where torrid was the only choice, then it was her actually buffing the guns on railjack, now we have helminth so u can now armor strip or even more damage buff, some even replace her 4 with Grendel's helminth if they dont care about map wide viral.

  • @darthplagueis13
    @darthplagueis13 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    It's easy to forget just how deadly Saryn can be if you don't play her for a while. The other week, I was doing one of those annoying Zariman bounties that had a 7 minute time limit. First tried it with Rhino, but failed horribly. Then I swapped to Saryn and finished the mission with almost 3 minutes to spare.

    • @saimyintmyat9373
      @saimyintmyat9373 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Which mission was in that bounty ?

    • @darthplagueis13
      @darthplagueis13 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@saimyintmyat9373 Extermination. But it was like 130 enemies and my weapons weren't really powerful enough to one-shot level 80 Grineer left and right.

    • @saimyintmyat9373
      @saimyintmyat9373 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@darthplagueis13 ah I see understandable.

  • @OggerFN
    @OggerFN 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I liked the version of saryn when she got her prime version the most I really loved the comfort of nuking everything just by putting spores on your clone in a safe corner

  • @nikolaiprophet1062
    @nikolaiprophet1062 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Trinity always have somewhere special in my heart

  • @SiN_Forever
    @SiN_Forever 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I got 4 Warframes (still somewhat new to the game) had a Mag phase then Wukong got Umbra stuck with him for awhile then tried normal Saryn in Circuit and the sound when Miasma was cast made me like the character. Saw this video decided to see how she was in the years. Did managed to get Saryn Prime and now from watching this although it’s a bit aged now does show me how to use her bit more efficiently 😊

  • @KuromiAK
    @KuromiAK ปีที่แล้ว

    One thing I don't see mentioned is that the old miasma had a "bug." The more you went in the negative duration, the more damage it did per tick.
    When you have 12.5% duration, each tick will do 1/0.125 = 8 times damage. The ability will do 1+4*0.125 = 1.5 ticks in total, with the initial damage tick unaffected by duration. The result is 2.2 times damage by simply going negative on duration.
    That was the premise that allowed her to nuke enemies up to level 50. A minimum duration build rendered rest of her kit useless though. With her rework, the miasma nerf was mostly just fixing this interaction.

  • @stinkmeister3
    @stinkmeister3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    18:35 that didin't matter. Viral used to work diffrently than it does now. Viral procs used to halve enemy hp and you could only proc it once per enemy.

  • @ceraph069
    @ceraph069 ปีที่แล้ว

    Amazing video once again! I would love to see a video doc on Ember, she is amazing and has had quite a bit of work.

  • @deldrinov
    @deldrinov ปีที่แล้ว

    I remember just I've been swearing my life behind Saryn on Draco just before spore damage ramp up change.
    IMO that was the most ridiculous version of Saryn ever. What many people didn't know, that was the actual start of the viral damage meta, also very few people knew this back then: spores transferred status effects.
    What I did back then was: mod for max range and duration (!), equipping gas Ignis (it was before its punchthrough was nerfed), cast spore on an enemy (!), cast toxic lash, and shot the enemy. What happened then, always made RJ Excal mains blush.
    1. 1 spore cast on enemy popped and spread to all enemies within 50-60m radius
    2. Ignis procced gas damage
    3. 2nd spore popped and transferred this status effect to ALL ENEMIES WITHIN 50m
    4. One DoT tick later everything was dead.
    Unbeknownst to me, due to the bug with gas status effect back then - all enemies killed by spread gas statuses were counted as stealth kills, and had their damage multiplied by 512x
    While Excals at this time were able to kill 16 enemies at one cast when modded with 45% efficiency, I could kill entire Draco with only 75 (unmodded) energy. I often specifically asked to not bring Trinity in the squad. Man, people were mad, but when they saw the result they were convinced.
    I was actually angry Saryn was reworked to 2.0, because spores now carried over only toxin status, not all of them.

  • @despitemyself226
    @despitemyself226 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm really glad I found this channel, I've been a diehard Warframe player since about 2013 & Saryn is/has always been one of my favorites! Until Wisp released, she was my "It" Warframe!

  • @X20Adam
    @X20Adam ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Seeing baby Brozime was certainly a nostalgia trip

  • @nanosmokex6998
    @nanosmokex6998 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    "Cure this sick horde with the greatest of plagues" - Ballas to Saryn Prime

  • @darvonmitsumura536
    @darvonmitsumura536 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nuke frames enter the building. Saryn: My spore count!

  • @NeuralSensei
    @NeuralSensei ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Shes the strongest element buffing frame, wiht corrosive toxin and viral, and potentially a subsume, yo can do a lot. And then we need to talk about the scaling damage and the other benefits.

  • @DeadlestSpartanGroup
    @DeadlestSpartanGroup 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Saryn's been my main since starting back when you had to mod abilities in.

  • @xanthos3956
    @xanthos3956 ปีที่แล้ว

    My only question before watching this video was: Which time are we talking about?

  • @qlevy7132
    @qlevy7132 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ah, yes, these Slide Slash spams, what a nostalgic video it is

  • @ahegao4915
    @ahegao4915 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I wish DE would take the time and care to fix Profile Stats. My Saryn is sitting at 76.4% usage, but in reality, it should be much, MUCH higher than that. She even has a kill total that is double the US covid deaths. Also, I like to joke that I was to blame for the Toxic Lash/Exodia Force nerf that went quietly unnoticed in 32.2. I must have submitted over a dozen crash reports. Needless to say, Saryn is bae! Not even Wisp Prime booty could tear me away from her!

  • @Paul_N-M
    @Paul_N-M ปีที่แล้ว +1

    RIP NooblShowtek in our heart

  • @Spubbily01
    @Spubbily01 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Saryn needs one last rework where instead of sheding her skin, Molt sheds her clothes.

    • @contayt8780
      @contayt8780 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Bruh 💀

  • @user-ol9ck7ig2f
    @user-ol9ck7ig2f 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Used to paint the room with spores using Saryn with my Mutalist Cernos

  • @theabysswalker114
    @theabysswalker114 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I have a 5 forma build on her but I don't really like the spore spreading gameplay but I do use her as a boss killer since u can use her augment for 1st ability for corrosive buff, third ability for toxin buff and u can also put roar without it asking u to take out an ability, I use her mainly as a glass cannon against archons and bosses but yea since I need quite a lot of power strenght and some duration she is squishy

    • @fishcake4473
      @fishcake4473 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You should consider calculating on how to refill her shields fully with a fast cast so you could have a shield gate refill handy. That's the survivability option of any frame past level 100 unless you invest some slots into it. Try equipping the decaying dragon key if it ends up taking a lot of augur mods to refill it

    • @theabysswalker114
      @theabysswalker114 ปีที่แล้ว

      thx for the tip I'll take a look

  • @Bat0541
    @Bat0541 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Really though, people slept on Saryn after her very first rework, she got hate because people didn't understand the concept of pressing more then one button for damage (because like stated in the video, that was the whole game at that point), and you had some content creators reinforcing the idea that she was weaker because they also didn't understand how to use her new kit which just spread the idea that she was nerfed further because a decent chunk of the player base takes what their favorite content creators say as the gospel. Truth is, she went straight to S tier from the jump with her rework, the rest of the changes were just icing on the cake, just took a while for the majority of players to catch on to this.

  • @darkstar5871
    @darkstar5871 ปีที่แล้ว

    saryn has always been one of my favorite frames. i love watching silly damage numbers exist around the map. it wasnt until recently i understood just how much damage she does on any given mission.

  • @nidgithm
    @nidgithm ปีที่แล้ว

    i remember when i was completely new to the game i really wanted saryn because she seemed really cool, little did i know shes one of the strongest frames in the game and also very fun to play lmao

  • @WeepingWillowTree
    @WeepingWillowTree ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ive been a saryn main for years and I never knew you used to be able to cast spores on molt

  • @jonasduell9953
    @jonasduell9953 ปีที่แล้ว

    I remember being laughed at for claiming Saryn can replace Mesa after first nerf (can't get trinity energy while peacemaker active) for Void Defense grinding... But everybody was happy with my back then favorite frame.

  • @humaneggs69
    @humaneggs69 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Anyone know the name of the syandana he uses in most videos? I forgot what it’s called

  • @themanwithnoname1839
    @themanwithnoname1839 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Yea i personally just love stun locking everything in missions with volt

  • @goldendoomslayer6301
    @goldendoomslayer6301 ปีที่แล้ว

    Saryn was my first love in warframe I sawzher xenomorph looking head and her insane nuke potential cough cough old saryn nuking entire star systems be damned... And well she was my first plat purchase since then I've rode the saryn main train through all her ups and downs although i never really saw downs only side grades to her kit shifting her from nuking to priming and then nuking lol she is just straight awesime.

  • @darksteelmenace595
    @darksteelmenace595 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I miss one-button-nuke Saryn so bad, probably my favourite meta

  • @bronchiel
    @bronchiel ปีที่แล้ว

    I remember back in the day when I'd run a Defense on (then) Derelict, where I used the Molt - Spore nuke every round.
    I was still pretty young and dumb at the game, but man, was it fun.

  • @blaxai6485
    @blaxai6485 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    "Almost everything volt can she can do as good as him if not better"
    *Laughs in tridolon*

  • @CESR-
    @CESR- ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Shooting Gallery with augment on her 4 & Saryn can stay alive no problem. Ofc there's also Gloom, Nourish etc. but yeah Saryn's alot of destruction. ☠️🍀
    Nova when?💫

  • @FrozenKnight21
    @FrozenKnight21 ปีที่แล้ว

    You know that that "notice" at the start provides you no protections under the law right.
    At most you can remind the trolls that they need to consider fair use before fileing notice.

  • @Nosceteipsum166
    @Nosceteipsum166 ปีที่แล้ว

    I haven't played Warframe for the past 2 years but I'm happy my favorite frame still looks good. I always choose the "magician/sorcerer" when I play games so the concept of killing monsters without having to touch or use a gun (I don't like games with guns LMAO) means Saryn is my insta favorite frame. She is like an AOE magician/sorcerer specialized in poison.

  • @BtheLee11
    @BtheLee11 ปีที่แล้ว

    To me saryn was just the start to a new era in Warframe. Warframe was never really about the "holy trinity" of mmos (being dps, tank, and healer roles as mandatory in partied content). While metas generally formed around that trinity in the early days once people started to get their amps and the corrupted mods came out the dawn of "become a walking god" had come. There are frames that will lean more towards support but generally there's always some cheese build that comes out that ends up being good for its niche (trinity + sancti castanas on index).

  • @Darkasasin80
    @Darkasasin80 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm all for a Trinity video. Old Trinity was busted as heck. 100% damage mitigation and her Damage Link were out there at the time.

  • @michaskrzecz5312
    @michaskrzecz5312 ปีที่แล้ว

    Oh Boy, I was one of top players of early stages of warframe. Saryn was for sure most versatile warframe for missions, but you should see how broken nyx was in early stages.literally goat of any defense mission and of course usable in most of missions. Why she was goat?
    1. Her ultimate was not damage caped. No matter how much damage your bubble got, it did not speed up usage of energy
    2. Teammates could refill your energy while you were using ultimate. Not like now, where you can't get new energy while using it
    3. Teammates could boost your ultimate by shooting your bubble. It was so easy to kill enemys even after 1hr in mission.

  • @guilhermeteixeiradacosta2972
    @guilhermeteixeiradacosta2972 ปีที่แล้ว

    I started playing in 2014 and stopped many times, started from the beggining now on pc and these videos make me feel old

  • @Sodamachine62
    @Sodamachine62 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Im really glad i watched this. I was running around spamming spores on everything that moved

  • @hegyak
    @hegyak ปีที่แล้ว

    0:52
    OK. That's a GREAT Refence. Props for knowing it.

  • @trevorjrooney
    @trevorjrooney ปีที่แล้ว

    Amazing series. It was awesome to learn the history of my favorite frame. BTW, the past tense of "cast" is cast.

  • @Highs009
    @Highs009 ปีที่แล้ว

    I remember People grinding hard for Vulkar riven with negative impact to proc gas with every shot to the spores, that was crazy.

  • @bwc153
    @bwc153 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    My friend who introduced me to Warframe, who is a founding member and has Excal Prime, stopped playing in part because of nukeframes like Saryn.

  • @needbettername8583
    @needbettername8583 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Volt the Meta king? Maybe for eidelons, or speed running low level stuff.

    • @noahedenborg4221
      @noahedenborg4221 ปีที่แล้ว

      oh no volt literally can do everything mabye not as well as others but still can do them

  • @xxfoursevenninerxxclawcrus6000
    @xxfoursevenninerxxclawcrus6000 ปีที่แล้ว

    her current state in the game, is great, she was once a warframe who used poison like volt used electricity, but became a plague like warfame, saryn with spore actually gives more to her identity and more fun to play with,

  • @IXGreywolfXI
    @IXGreywolfXI ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Warframe is bittersweet, a frame can appeal to you but playing it in end game is damn near pointless. The difference in power of saryn compared to the weakest frames is like a newborn compared to mma fighter. I just hope the devs bring more balance and make all frames much more viable

  • @Wooskii1
    @Wooskii1 ปีที่แล้ว

    Spores actually will spread once if the enemy you directly cast it on (patient zero/ first generation/ host) dies from them, but not enemies affected through transmission (they only spread if shot) so still not technically infinite...

  • @BrambleJam
    @BrambleJam ปีที่แล้ว

    I hate how the frames that i used most were fucked. My favorite was ember, and they neutered her.
    I had to take some time off when my father passed in 2017, and hadnt had a chance to get back on until late last year. I hate all the changes so much because i have no idea what im doing anymore.

  • @benjaminwolf2169
    @benjaminwolf2169 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    is it just me or is the "playing with the frame on the right side of the screen" just so akward to look at XD

  • @sharkexpert12
    @sharkexpert12 ปีที่แล้ว

    I remember every rework having some level of absurd nonsense to break it. first the original miasma scaled with negative duration in weird ways that simply made no sense. then it was spores with the stacking toxin dot that could hit damage cap dots. then it was the lanka gas build that broke that. then was the torid on molt nonsense. each iteration she lost the minmax map nuke silliness and now just works fairly hassle free. Good changes overall but I will admit I do miss seeing a 400k toxin dot being proliferated over the entire map for the funnies.

  • @remind1393
    @remind1393 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thats nostalgic Saryn with -Duration clearing whole rooms and coptering with melees.