Hello GoPro. So here comes the question, since the GoPro Hero 11 uses the same processer GP2 as the Hero 10. Does that mean Hero 10 is also capable of 10 bit recording? Not to mention it has less pixel to work with than Hero 11. It's just a matter of a new firmware, right? So when will GoPro release a firmware to address this?
That's the best comparison i saw on the 10-bit color! Thank you for putting in all that work! 👏What interests me the most about the GoPro 11 is the 10-bit capability since i do a lot of color grading on my GoPro videos. People keep saying it doesn't improve the dynamic range but in your samples it's very visible especially with the clouds like in 1:35. For someone like me that likes to do timelapses etc, if i can get even that slight improvement in the clouds, that's enough reason to upgrade from my 10 to the 11. I usually upgrade every other year but i think i will go for the 11💸
@@GeneralExpert Great to hear this! I will be getting the GoPro 11 soon, in the meantime i love watching every possible review and comparison. Makes me even more excited 😁
Does having 10 bit make a difference if you're doing timelapses taking RAW photos on the Hero 11? And what about timewarps? Does the 11 give much better results than the 10?
I would love to see you color grade the 10 bit vs 8 and show the difference. Also hahah GoPro would never give the 10 a new feature like take. As you said you went for the 10 to the 11 for that reason. 😊
So what is this actually recording? 10-bit Rec. 709? That's odd. It doesn't follow TH-cam's recommended requirements for HDR10. It has no HLG or Rec. 2020. It would be nice if you posted a file so we could examine the encoding.
Amazing video, man! When I was testing it, I couldn't tell the difference between the 8-Bit and 10-Bit GoPro HERO11 files. But you've provided some fantastic examples!
I bet if your setting is at 4k 60fps ultra wide the recording time is 10 minutes then it will shutdown down due to overheating. Lol 🤣 $500 for action cam that cannot promise to record more than 10 minutes? I don't think I would pay for $500 I would go with dji action 3 over the GoPro....
@@GeneralExpert, thanks for the 10-bit info! My 2 cents on the misunderstanding of overheating: Every action camera or pro mirrorless camera that is built with small form factor and waterproof has to deal with thermal physics or heat management. Nowhere for heat to escape and therefore it shuts down. So basically this is what happens: - GP implements like Sony and has standard temp settings that protects “hand hot” defined as 43-45degC or 111-115degF. At 45degC, you get 1st degree burn and make let go and break your action cam. Like Sony, GP now has “tripod mode” for long form (if you shoot indoor or studio for long time, not made for this but okay), then GP turns off Wifi, BT, GPS, dim the front and back screens which generates heat; - DJI on other hand also has standard and high temps. But for UK/Oz/Europe, they don’t allow anything above 53degC or close to 2nd degree burn but US allows that or is not as strict. On the A2, DJI added the casing that didn’t improve the overheating but trigger the magnet that was used for the macro lens detection to say, now that the case is on, with that padding, hand held is safer to let it run hotter than 53degC more safely. They didn’t do anything to design passive or active cooling. Just let it run hot like the A3. So choose your poison, run it hot to 2nd degree burn and have lawsuits and/or destroy the components inside your action cam and let’s see how long it will last. Time will tell but typical electronic components are good about 43-45degC for continuous runtime without damaging the internal components and reducing the longevity. Solution: use a smartphone active cooling fan and strap it GP11 and/or A3 and run it continuously until your battery and/or memory card runs out. I use it on GP10 and A2 and after 1.5hrs in all shooting modes and got bored and turned it off. Obviously, I wouldn’t shoot indoor long form or use 4K120 for 1.5hrs continuous shooting. As for bit depth and DR (dynamic range), bit depth of 8 vs 10-bit, the latter gives more color information to help with Sky color banding as you’ve shown in the video. For DR, it’s all above about recovering blown highlights and/or dark shadows which A2 (and since A3 is a repackaged A2), mostly likely DR won’t be as good as GP11. More importantly, if DJI gives 10-bit to A3 and not A2 who paid $519, DJI will not need to worry about GP but pissed off existing customers. Mostly likely as a fan of tech, I will get both as my new toys and do hand me downs of GP10 and A2 to my nephews and nieces!
Looks fine to me. I got a BenQ 32" color calibrated monitor. The 10bit definitely has more color detail in the shadows and a bit more dynamic range visible in the sky like in 1:35. It's not a huge difference but i can imagine it does make a legit difference when you color grade over these clips. With the 10bit you got a better basis for your grading.
@@vlightphotography I think this is what a lot of people are missing. 10-bit color isn’t necessarily more vibrant and in your face. It’s more natural looking. That’s what drew me to this GoPro over just sticking with my 9. The video is about the same with minor upgrades, but they are definitely there. Might be hard to tell in different videos, but I still know lol
@@HippieMagic Agreed! I actually like the more flat look of the 11. You can always add more vibrancy and contrast in post if you want but you cannot work around too much contrast and lost highlights. I was hoping for a bigger upgrade like a 1" sensor for better low light etc but honestly for my use i think the GoPro 11 offers enough reasons to upgrade from my 10. It really depends on what you use it for.
Not sure why I’m even commenting on this. If I put ungraded DJI Action 2/3 footage next to this review you would see evidence of dynamic range & less shadows & highlighting. GoPro, I look forward to seeing your share price crash 🎉😂
The difference is only seen in two instances 1. Any part of the video with a lot of gradients like sky as you get less banding but overall it will not look that much different -Bit rates and codec has a lot to do with banding as well so it is not like 10bit is the magic cure for banding but it makes a huge difference. 2. The true advantage of recording 10bit is more flexibility when color grading especially if you are using the GoPro as a B camera to match to another 10bit camera. - How GoPro implements it is the stickler. I am reserving judgment until I get to grade the files from the 11
@@davidsilberhorn yeah I have a hero9 and an 11. I like the 11 but seriously wish they would let you disable the IR filter. It’d be great if they finally made it capable of night filming.
Thank you for the in depth look into the difference that 10-bit color makes 🙌
Wow, an actual GoPro comment! 💪 Thank you all for bringing 10bit!!
Hello GoPro. So here comes the question, since the GoPro Hero 11 uses the same processer GP2 as the Hero 10. Does that mean Hero 10 is also capable of 10 bit recording? Not to mention it has less pixel to work with than Hero 11. It's just a matter of a new firmware, right? So when will GoPro release a firmware to address this?
@@BABeenHere Update dont make $$$
Now please add log.
Hey GoPro. On my channel I have GoPro HDR videos! I get the best quality out of the GoPro.
That's the best comparison i saw on the 10-bit color! Thank you for putting in all that work! 👏What interests me the most about the GoPro 11 is the 10-bit capability since i do a lot of color grading on my GoPro videos. People keep saying it doesn't improve the dynamic range but in your samples it's very visible especially with the clouds like in 1:35. For someone like me that likes to do timelapses etc, if i can get even that slight improvement in the clouds, that's enough reason to upgrade from my 10 to the 11. I usually upgrade every other year but i think i will go for the 11💸
I agree! I was pretty impressed by 10bit mode. Maybe it’s not simply 10bit itself but the dynamic range is greatly improved while in that mode.
@@GeneralExpert Great to hear this! I will be getting the GoPro 11 soon, in the meantime i love watching every possible review and comparison. Makes me even more excited 😁
is gopro set in flat mode?
Hi! I’m assuming you didn’t do any color grading on the 10-bit.
Question is, will 10-bit look good even I choose not do any color grading? 🤔
Does 10-bit mode only make sense with flat colour or vibrant as well?
10 bit dont add dynamic range. its only noticeable in extreme grading. all what youre saying is default profile on each camera.
but 10 bit gives you the headroom to have more dynamic range without banding.
@@nuahsx when doing extreme grading is when you might notice banding not when the video is recorded. theres no banding on the recorded video.
On my channel I have GoPro HDR videos! I get the best quality out of the GoPro 11.
How many megabytes will be 1 minute of video in 4k in 10 bits enabled and how many when disabled? Tnx!
Just wondering what happened to the sun streak issue? I am guessing this is the replacement Hero 11 you are using for this video.
How much bigger are the files in 10bit vs 8?
What about proton and the flat color profile? Does it improve by a lot?
On my channel I have GoPro HDR videos! I get the best quality out of the GoPro 11.
Does having 10 bit make a difference if you're doing timelapses taking RAW photos on the Hero 11? And what about timewarps? Does the 11 give much better results than the 10?
Shooting raw wont change anything... raw is either 12 or 14bit, probably 12 on gopros, so no gain from 10bit when shooting raw
I would love to see you color grade the 10 bit vs 8 and show the difference. Also hahah GoPro would never give the 10 a new feature like take. As you said you went for the 10 to the 11 for that reason. 😊
So what is this actually recording? 10-bit Rec. 709? That's odd. It doesn't follow TH-cam's recommended requirements for HDR10. It has no HLG or Rec. 2020. It would be nice if you posted a file so we could examine the encoding.
10-bit Rec709.
Not everyone uses Gopro's for TH-cam.
On my channel I have GoPro HDR videos! I get the best quality out of the GoPro 11.
10 bit does not improve dynamic range. it's just a matter of the amount of color shades. For example in sky gradient.
On my channel I have GoPro HDR videos! I get the best quality out of the GoPro 11.
Thank you so much for this in depth comparison and excellent demos! Very valuable information!
Amazing video, man! When I was testing it, I couldn't tell the difference between the 8-Bit and 10-Bit GoPro HERO11 files. But you've provided some fantastic examples!
On my channel I have GoPro HDR videos! I get the best quality out of the GoPro 11.
That is something I didn’t realize. 10 bit is amazing. That is another GP11 sold..
Haha! Crazy right??!!
On my channel I have GoPro HDR videos! I get the best quality out of the GoPro 11.
Great video! Wish you would of done side by side comparison as well.
with 10bit you can convert in true HDR video!!
On my channel I have GoPro HDR videos! I get the best quality out of the GoPro 11.
Very useful! Thanks!)
Great video. On my channel I have GoPro HDR videos! I get the best quality out of the GoPro.
Very useful... compared to other creator's crappy comparisons and the exact same results
Subscribed.. Nice comparision.. top notch video ❤❤
Nice!!
Great Video. Walking tour with go pro hero 11
Thank you for showing most of the video with the actual gopros instead of just a talking head 90% of the time using a higher end camera.
amazing video, gotta give u props for it,
Is this a sponsored video, so hard to find honest TH-camrs.
Not sponsored. Paid for by me. 🤙
This was an excellent video! What are you talking about?
Thanks so much for this! You just cost me $500 🤣
Haha!! Sorry.
I bet if your setting is at 4k 60fps ultra wide the recording time is 10 minutes then it will shutdown down due to overheating. Lol 🤣 $500 for action cam that cannot promise to record more than 10 minutes? I don't think I would pay for $500 I would go with dji action 3 over the GoPro....
I paid $399. The Dji I’m sure is good. I haven’t yet used enough to comment on overheating.
@@GeneralExpert, thanks for the 10-bit info!
My 2 cents on the misunderstanding of overheating:
Every action camera or pro mirrorless camera that is built with small form factor and waterproof has to deal with thermal physics or heat management. Nowhere for heat to escape and therefore it shuts down.
So basically this is what happens:
- GP implements like Sony and has standard temp settings that protects “hand hot” defined as 43-45degC or 111-115degF. At 45degC, you get 1st degree burn and make let go and break your action cam.
Like Sony, GP now has “tripod mode” for long form (if you shoot indoor or studio for long time, not made for this but okay), then GP turns off Wifi, BT, GPS, dim the front and back screens which generates heat;
- DJI on other hand also has standard and high temps. But for UK/Oz/Europe, they don’t allow anything above 53degC or close to 2nd degree burn but US allows that or is not as strict.
On the A2, DJI added the casing that didn’t improve the overheating but trigger the magnet that was used for the macro lens detection to say, now that the case is on, with that padding, hand held is safer to let it run hotter than 53degC more safely. They didn’t do anything to design passive or active cooling. Just let it run hot like the A3.
So choose your poison, run it hot to 2nd degree burn and have lawsuits and/or destroy the components inside your action cam and let’s see how long it will last. Time will tell but typical electronic components are good about 43-45degC for continuous runtime without damaging the internal components and reducing the longevity.
Solution: use a smartphone active cooling fan and strap it GP11 and/or A3 and run it continuously until your battery and/or memory card runs out. I use it on GP10 and A2 and after 1.5hrs in all shooting modes and got bored and turned it off. Obviously, I wouldn’t shoot indoor long form or use 4K120 for 1.5hrs continuous shooting.
As for bit depth and DR (dynamic range), bit depth of 8 vs 10-bit, the latter gives more color information to help with Sky color banding as you’ve shown in the video. For DR, it’s all above about recovering blown highlights and/or dark shadows which A2 (and since A3 is a repackaged A2), mostly likely DR won’t be as good as GP11.
More importantly, if DJI gives 10-bit to A3 and not A2 who paid $519, DJI will not need to worry about GP but pissed off existing customers.
Mostly likely as a fan of tech, I will get both as my new toys and do hand me downs of GP10 and A2 to my nephews and nieces!
I think TH-cam crushed your video. I'm on a 32 inch monitor and other than the banding in the sky, the 8 bit looked better from the 11 in most cases.
Well i tried the best I could. Hopefully there were a few samples that proved the 10bit color and flat profile was much better. 🤙
The 8 bit is more saturated, there’s more detail in the 10 bit if you look really close. It’s harder to tell from a distance.
Looks fine to me. I got a BenQ 32" color calibrated monitor. The 10bit definitely has more color detail in the shadows and a bit more dynamic range visible in the sky like in 1:35. It's not a huge difference but i can imagine it does make a legit difference when you color grade over these clips. With the 10bit you got a better basis for your grading.
@@vlightphotography I think this is what a lot of people are missing. 10-bit color isn’t necessarily more vibrant and in your face. It’s more natural looking. That’s what drew me to this GoPro over just sticking with my 9.
The video is about the same with minor upgrades, but they are definitely there. Might be hard to tell in different videos, but I still know lol
@@HippieMagic Agreed! I actually like the more flat look of the 11. You can always add more vibrancy and contrast in post if you want but you cannot work around too much contrast and lost highlights. I was hoping for a bigger upgrade like a 1" sensor for better low light etc but honestly for my use i think the GoPro 11 offers enough reasons to upgrade from my 10. It really depends on what you use it for.
Not sure why I’m even commenting on this. If I put ungraded DJI Action 2/3 footage next to this review you would see evidence of dynamic range & less shadows & highlighting. GoPro, I look forward to seeing your share price crash 🎉😂
On my channel I have GoPro HDR videos! I get the best quality out of the GoPro 11.
Sponsored shit video lol my man thinks 10 bit makes it more cinematic more dynamic range 🤭
You’re blind if you can’t tell the difference between 8 bit and 10 bit color. It’s definitely there.
The difference is only seen in two instances
1. Any part of the video with a lot of gradients like sky as you get less banding but overall it will not look that much different
-Bit rates and codec has a lot to do with banding as well so it is not like 10bit is the magic cure for banding but it makes a huge difference.
2. The true advantage of recording 10bit is more flexibility when color grading especially if you are using the GoPro as a B camera to match to another 10bit camera.
- How GoPro implements it is the stickler. I am reserving judgment until I get to grade the files from the 11
@@HippieMagicOn my channel I have GoPro HDR videos! I get the best quality out of the GoPro 11.
@@davidsilberhorn yeah I have a hero9 and an 11. I like the 11 but seriously wish they would let you disable the IR filter. It’d be great if they finally made it capable of night filming.