Gator: "I have two players that refuse to scrim them" | Uncoachable Episode 21

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 11 ก.ค. 2024
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    We're once again joined this episode by Head Coach of M80, Gator as we discuss the NA main stage, EMEA Grand Finals and some predictions for the upcoming Main Event at Dreamhack Dallas.
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    0:00:00 Coming Up
    0:01:33 Gator vs Uncoachable
    0:04:44 M80's Main Event Performance
    0:11:50 Scrimming Ecosystem
    0:22:09 Thoughts on Toronto Defiant
    0:30:36 Wider NA Discussion
    0:35:51 FTG and Yeti didn't make Dallas
    0:39:25 Collegiate Scheduling Conflicts
    0:49:22 EMEA Grand Finals
    0:59:02 ENCE Post-Gunba
    1:06:54 Retirement in OWCS
    1:10:07 Twisted Minds Drama
    1:15:47 Thoughts on Hero Bans
    1:27:05 Caster Drama
    1:39:14 FACEIT League
    1:56:00 Asia Tournament Thoughts
    2:04:59 Dallas Event Predictions
    2:13:45 News, Transfers and Rumours
    2:33:54 QUIZ!
    2:47:44 Client of the Week
    2:54:24 Rank the guest
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  • @adamc9082
    @adamc9082 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +68

    2:33:54 real episode starts

  • @zachariahmarkusson7479
    @zachariahmarkusson7479 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +105

    Does Chris do any legitimate coaching, or is this all a Chris meme? I swear, over the last 6 months I've probably seen 15 to 20 hours of Chris "coaching" and in that time I think I saw him suggest 1 thing during a match that SSG did and it started showing immediate positive results. The rest of the time, I swear Chris is just saying things like, "Nice! GOOD! I love what I'm seeing. Good. YES!"
    During the Flashops, whenever Exo lost a game, Chris would just say, "WE downloaded them. WE figured out what we need to do to win. I want this win. I want rank 1. I want this." While he is saying all this, he never gave any actual information to Exo to assist them in the set.
    Chris needs to take a bathroom break, and he's like... asking permission from SSG. "Do you guys need me?" Do they need you? Dude, they just beat SRPC while you were gone with backbone on tank.
    He also says things that are just flat out wrong. Hadi will ask, "Can I do this?" and Chris will say no, only for Hadi to do it a few seconds later, and then Chris acts like he said yes, lol.
    Is he a mindset coach? Is he just there to give SSG some positive reinforcement in there play? Does all the actual coaching happen off stream? Is it all just a meme that's going over my head? That was my original assumption, but Chris "coaching" has been going on for so long at this point that there is no way I think it's a meme anymore.
    I'm not trying to come off like a dick, but I'm just really confused about the whole thing.

    • @weasyll_
      @weasyll_ 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +45

      This an instant Uncoachable classic comment

    • @Matt-qm1th
      @Matt-qm1th 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      Pretty sure he was responsible for the best signing ever in owl so that counts for somethinf

    • @Xeonz1000
      @Xeonz1000 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      You right, he job is to glue the team together, the team feels "complete" and "home" with him, the players all know each other and played together for long time in ups and downs, his being there and telling them well done and it's ok is what glue them together and give the players confident and "peace" . Don't underestimate loved coach words on his players it's very effective, not how much information or analysis he say

    • @zachariahmarkusson7479
      @zachariahmarkusson7479 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Xeonz1000 man emotional coaches are such bums though no? Just a girl/boyfriend with extra steps, stealing roster money that could go to a better tank then Hadi and stuff.

    • @Khy_r
      @Khy_r 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Does Chris do any legitimate coaching, or is this all a Chris meme? I swear, over the last 6 months I've probably seen 15 to 20 hours of Chris "coaching" and in that time I think I saw him suggest 1 thing during a match that SSG did and it started showing immediate positive results. The rest of the time, I swear Chris is just saying things like, "Nice! GOOD! I love what I'm seeing. Good. YES!"
      During the Flashops, whenever Exo lost a game, Chris would just say, "WE downloaded them. WE figured out what we need to do to win. I want this win. I want rank 1. I want this." While he is saying all this, he never gave any actual information to Exo to assist them in the set.
      Chris needs to take a bathroom break, and he's like... asking permission from SSG. "Do you guys need me?" Do they need you? Dude, they just beat SRPC while you were gone with backbone on tank.
      He also says things that are just flat out wrong. Hadi will ask, "Can I do this?" and Chris will say no, only for Hadi to do it a few seconds later, and then Chris acts like he said yes, lol.
      Is he a mindset coach? Is he just there to give SSG some positive reinforcement in there play? Does all the actual coaching happen off stream? Is it all just a meme that's going over my head? That was my original assumption, but Chris "coaching" has been going on for so long at this point that there is no way I think it's a meme anymore.
      I'm not trying to come off like a dick, but I'm just really confused about the whole thing.

  • @HawkySB
    @HawkySB 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +61

    Watched the first minute of the coming up and was fully convinced that Unter couldn’t make the session and his chair was just there as a joke, it’s a shame he came back #IHateUnter #Quizhead

  • @duckkart1155
    @duckkart1155 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +45

    It's nice to see Gator be supportive of Donghak after Reign and all that happened to him

  • @Thehatter106
    @Thehatter106 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

    Nekkra is lowkey goated for reaching out and asking for advice/help. Lot of respect for someone with enough drive to seek that out instead of being defensive or complacent in the face of criticism

  • @owFero
    @owFero 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    ChatGPT only uses information prior to 2020 to create its answers, that's why it named a bunch of S1 and S2 players.

  • @fvgb4812
    @fvgb4812 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    The AVRL stream made the asia tournament crazy fun because he was interacting with all the OCE players and chatting with ans and other korean personalities

  • @iljiFPS
    @iljiFPS 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +41

    unter really spent 37 minutes off camera pouring water or whatever the fuck he does in his spare time

    • @Unterr
      @Unterr 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      That water isn't going to pour itself

  • @Roch-kl5ge
    @Roch-kl5ge 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

    I have just enough time to watch this whole thing before my plane flight

    • @thorjohnson2516
      @thorjohnson2516 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Same here😂

    • @rickmich18
      @rickmich18 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Have a safe flight guys let us know when you land

    • @Roch-kl5ge
      @Roch-kl5ge 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@rickmich18 catching a connecting flight rn

  • @APineappleR
    @APineappleR 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    Boosting the numbers on the Danny episodes as we speak

  • @joegattosgrandma5160
    @joegattosgrandma5160 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    Kevster would love to be on

    • @KingDanOfBarr
      @KingDanOfBarr 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Imagine lan dodger Kev showing up on uncoachable

  • @anonymouszebra1239
    @anonymouszebra1239 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    BRO ending on that tracer clip is VILE. flashbacks

    • @KingDanOfBarr
      @KingDanOfBarr 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      It is the uncoachable tradition.

  • @someguyonyoutube4285
    @someguyonyoutube4285 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    Unter slacks off yet again

  • @skippy7952
    @skippy7952 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    we need capitology on uncoachable on god

  • @ianavacado8163
    @ianavacado8163 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    perfect way to start the day

  • @airculver
    @airculver 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    1:04:10 Stalin was referenced 😊

  • @lofikid6260
    @lofikid6260 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    possible all timer of an intro from CommanderX

  • @Tohiowl
    @Tohiowl 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    The return of the king!

  • @randyrandy6459
    @randyrandy6459 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    quiz in shambles, loved it

  • @SE7VENprod
    @SE7VENprod 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +50

    Gator real loud now gunba gone

    • @dantiongson3014
      @dantiongson3014 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +36

      homeboii always been loud lol "Koreans ruined Overwatch League" was his saying which helped this podcast take off. He always talked trash too but in a great competitive way.

  • @Nett11
    @Nett11 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    2 points on the quiz for me #client

  • @joegattosgrandma5160
    @joegattosgrandma5160 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Get Kevster on

  • @airculver
    @airculver 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    13:22 and I just realized Unter was missing

  • @noahjorgensen586
    @noahjorgensen586 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Plz plz plz gator have somebody stream m80 facie it league or release replay codes

  • @Rein-jv7ez
    @Rein-jv7ez 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I also tried the chatGPT top ten players and got a completely different list xD, it put Sinatraa in first

    • @DontBeBad
      @DontBeBad 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      for me it said
      1 sinatraa
      2 JJoNak
      3 Fleta
      4 Carpe
      5 Gesture
      6 Rascal
      7 Super
      8 Twilight
      9 Profit
      10 Anamo

    • @KingDanOfBarr
      @KingDanOfBarr 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Obligatory no comment but he was top 10 in his time and got surpassed after. Like not one of his heroes wasn't surpassed by other players on em. Habin would gap him on zar, his tracer and doom wouldn't hold a candle to the top players these days. Even before Riot suspended him he was a bench rider that SEN didn't need to win.

  • @lucas411_
    @lucas411_ 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Get nekkra on ❤

  • @yanba
    @yanba 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    shoutout unter taking care of his grandma,,,, real shit

  • @dubby_ow
    @dubby_ow 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    brb guys, I gotta go get a follow from Gator

  • @mr.izanami1796
    @mr.izanami1796 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    QUIZHEADS after a long hiatus we are BACK!
    (I am writing this comment before watching the quiz, if the quiz in question was not satisfactory there will be consequences!!) NO MORE AI QUIZES! I DEMAND HUMAN QUIZES!!!11!

  • @grady7683
    @grady7683 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Chat GPT 3.5 is only trained on data from before i think 2021, that is why there are only old players

  • @yasuh4550
    @yasuh4550 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    YOU GUYS SHOULD COACH NEKKRA!!! MAKE IT CONTENT!!!

    • @leetebbens8858
      @leetebbens8858 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      How would they coach Nekra? None of them have casting experience. Theyre good talking to the 1% but not a general audience. They generally shit on anyone without their level of knowledge

    • @yasuh4550
      @yasuh4550 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@leetebbens8858 Game knowledge and meta stuff, and then some hyping stuff from the great Unter

  • @gobbagoo
    @gobbagoo 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I love being a victim without looking at why im being called out

  • @duckdudette
    @duckdudette 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The quiz was actual a perfect demonstration of what ChatGPT is capable of. Something that sounds good if you don't know what the fuck you're talking about.

  • @ODAN_Wolf
    @ODAN_Wolf 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Alamy homies love sfs eams of season 24

  • @leetebbens8858
    @leetebbens8858 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Chistopher hypes his own team up more than anyone. I feel like by his estimation they should have 1 loss and a solid 70% scrim rate. They should really dominate Dallas if theyre as good as he thinks

  • @saltysushi
    @saltysushi 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I do think when gunba brought up nekkras situation of her not continuing to watch owcs after casting to insinuate that she doesnt care was overstepping. But other than that when i saw lemonkiwis tweet i was like ????????

  • @yasuh4550
    @yasuh4550 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Finnish here, country stance: it's cool but there is contention. Pretty normal stuff

  • @umarrii
    @umarrii 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I think my Client of the Week is Unter for flopping at the segment, ignoring Ski's followup and missing how they're guilty of the same with OW Esports, understandable because it's your careers, but likewise Mercy is important for her career as a creator who makes content around the hero too, and also lumping in the comments of the reddit thread where I'm pretty sure I saw him leave some comment in there too 🤣

  • @SourTheBush
    @SourTheBush 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Podcast not long enough. If it's not 4 hours it's not worth watching ; )

  • @KingDanOfBarr
    @KingDanOfBarr 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ngl the moment viol2t wasnt in the quizz I knew it would only be early owl shit

  • @LeSobaMask
    @LeSobaMask 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

    Gator is an absolute windup merchant. Love to hate him.

    • @vavo6909
      @vavo6909 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      OW fans when someone has personality: 😡

  • @MrMangoJuice
    @MrMangoJuice หลายเดือนก่อน

    If you ever pivot away from the lip clip, you should play the worst clip of the guest at the end

  • @-hera3903
    @-hera3903 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hopefully the AI overlords can take a 10 second delay and automatically observe the "correct" players. Overwatch watchable SoonTM

  • @Legofps123
    @Legofps123 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Nekkra was so awful at the start, but it's clear that she has been trying to get better, even if she's still not great (I don't think casting is for her. And fuck off, it's not for me either, it's just reality)
    Meanwhile Orangepotato is just a lazy person that deflects every single piece of criticism with buzzwords

  • @dowchbag
    @dowchbag 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    gator looks like 🐲

  • @zachariahmarkusson7479
    @zachariahmarkusson7479 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    is crazy raccoons not getting paid well?

  • @vonx9813
    @vonx9813 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    1

  • @NoBotOW
    @NoBotOW 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Unter has the best takes across the board everytime.
    What a terrible mullet, it enrages me.

  • @airculver
    @airculver 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Confirmed racists- 1:29:30

  • @roller98
    @roller98 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    LemonKiwi always came off as a person with victim mentality.

  • @NoBotOW
    @NoBotOW 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    First time listening to one of these, and 8 min in, I'm hearing Unter and Gator going back and forth on coaching in Grand Finals thinking, "I could listen to these two converse in dripping sarcasm every day for the rest of my life."
    Also, f*** Gator, he's the worst.

  • @GWTNess
    @GWTNess 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    gigachad nekkra: ok thx for criticism how can I improve
    soy lemonkiwi: oMG my PeFOrMaNce-bAsed entertainment job is being criticized the only possible reason is that those criticizing me are sexist! If you express your opinion on video game casting I am going to instantly recoil with heinous, baseless accusations
    Fr tho I don't particularly like nekkra's casting but she was still always at least three tiers above lemonkiwi. I see lemonkiwi casting, I press mute. Like genuinely not even comparable idk why a lot of people were saying nekkra was worse. On a side note, I love how expressing literally any negative yet constructive opinion is just instantly registered as "hating" that MUST stem from racism or projection or gender or jealousy or hatewatching or whatever the fuck. Like fucking North Korea is more merciful towards those who express opinions that they disagree with than casual OW andys it's unreal.

  • @leetebbens8858
    @leetebbens8858 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    These 3 main untouchable hosts have to be the softest people ever. Yall really like to dish it out but then its a 30 min cry session at who made a mean comment about one of yall. Its great content but the mental gymnastics to talk that ammount of shit but be so butt hurt about any push back or criticism. Yes, for the record, you are indeed butt hurt if you go on a 30 min discussion on how your criticism is valid but you yourself are above reproach. Thats adult tears

  • @WaakikiTheGoat
    @WaakikiTheGoat 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Yeti are disgusting on dive tf you mean

    • @d3w222
      @d3w222 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      yeah yeti beats almost all if not all na and eu teams

    • @zachariahmarkusson7479
      @zachariahmarkusson7479 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      dive one tricks and not top 2 in the region on it

    • @ELI-521
      @ELI-521 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ⁠@@zachariahmarkusson7479they beat wac and lost 3-2 against wac and ftg while playing at their best 😂 literally dong can play rein aswell we just didn’t see it since he isn’t meta is his orisa is improving pls rewatch them b4 u talk

    • @d3w222
      @d3w222 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@zachariahmarkusson7479 ur slow

  • @b23beatz
    @b23beatz 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    The gator copium is so funny lol close 4-1 bro. wishing nothing but the absolute worst for bro 🙏

    • @APineappleR
      @APineappleR 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

      Trying to get that twitter follow huh

    • @b23beatz
      @b23beatz 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​​Fuck no he helped create goats I would block him instantly ​@@APineappleR

  • @leetebbens8858
    @leetebbens8858 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    So your criticism of Lemon not keeping up with the games is validated bc she doesnt listen to uncoachable fast enough?? Again why tf do yall expect casters who have no contracts or job security to watch every game frok every region? They are all part time and most are doing 3+ games bc Blizzard isnt paying.
    Also who would be the replacement? Tier 2 is dead and is there anyone grinding ow tier 2 casting that is actually better?
    All that to say yes light Mr. X on fire his casting is DOG

    • @LuigixD
      @LuigixD 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      I'm not on the Lemonkiwi hate train, but maybe she should at least watch more matches than the average viewer. Yes, it's not a full time job, but the viewers don't get paid to watch the games

    • @leetebbens8858
      @leetebbens8858 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@LuigixD I sort of agree, but also she was only a fill in caster. To my knowledge both her and Custa were not supposed to cast as neither was offered a contract they took, but now that all the OW host/casters are independent contractors some scheduling conflicts came up as they are all working multiple games outside of Johnny and Jake. So Custa and Lemon were offered temp fill in roles bc they had previously casted. I fully understand the ow casting is horrendous especially for experts on the game, but like youre gonna shit on casters not being prepared while not being compensated but its all laughs when Gunba jumps ship, Unter can't win an important match to save his life ect. Its full flame on anyone outside their circle and then a cry fest on how they have to deal with lack of support and resources. Like everyone left in the scene is here off passion so lets cut everyone a break or no one. The circle jerk of look how good we are and how shit anyone not in the call is

  • @skotland7078
    @skotland7078 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    1