Not a fan of this band really or even this genre but there is just something about the way Joey talks about mixing that is so entertaining and enlightening. A natural teacher.
I also began a year ago and Sturgis' videos are invaluable. I even invited Miami to a show at Chain Reaction and he said yes because they've inspired me so much!
@@CloudburstStudio so is it because it’s not the same tone on each track? I remember being young and copying a mono track, panning it and it sounding horrible, thus my discovery of phase cancellation lol. So I wouldn’t need to invert phase, as long as the tones are different?
One tone is the main tone, copy that, then make a lower gain clankier tone almost like a bass guitar tone that lacks low end, then duplicate that and make a click treble focused tone. Stagger them in volume so that you barely hear the paralleled guitar tracks and they're moreso used for clarity, pick attack, and that clanky tone. Its an incredible technique
Because of it's foundational architecture. Cubase never distorts to sum it up. Just watch joey videos and he explains it in more detail. It's why he doesn't use other daws
Go hit the track. Sounds pretty sick with the bass, and you can still hear the guitar notes. Usually want less gain and more bite with super fast stuff (like Archspire for example). I actually don't always love Joey's mixes but this track sounds humongous
In context of whole mix it sounds killer though. Joey is incapable of releasing a bad sounding mix. Always really massive sounding. He is every bit as good as Buster and pioneered Busters mixing style over 10 years ago, so there's that.
4k is ear cancer on guitars. Joey’s eq scheme is part of why I always liked his guitar tones. I’d rather hear pod farm with less 4k than the most expensive amp with the hiss left in.
Joey vs 4000Hz CHAPTER # 984
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i believe it's pretty much the thing with post 2002 Vintage 30s.
Lol😂
Not a fan of this band really or even this genre but there is just something about the way Joey talks about mixing that is so entertaining and enlightening. A natural teacher.
I also began a year ago and Sturgis' videos are invaluable. I even invited Miami to a show at Chain Reaction and he said yes because they've inspired me so much!
This multiple layer trick is insane. Thanks a lot for sharing.
How have I gone 15 years without hearing of the low gain trick?!?!?!?!
This method just helped me achieve the tone I’ve been searching for 😭😭😭 thank you so much!!! 🤘🏾
This helped me with my guitar tone so much I started this channel for my solo shit. Dam this is gold
It's Nolly's custom altered 5150, fyi
are all the guitar tracks the same take? if so , how did you solve the phasing issue ?
they didnt
You can tell they're pretty washy. That's why. This trick creates heavy phase issues.
Good to know i'm not the only one layering low gain tones with high gain ones. I have a SECRET method that involves tracking the guitar five times.
I was waiting to hear something about “phasing” when copying the guitars… Any issues or tips?
I doubt that was an issue since he used the same plug-in on each of the tracks.
I will have to check that center tool
Joey is the goat
we want that DEPTHS tone!!
So by "copy" do you literally mean copy? How would that work with phase? Thanks!
Yeah it’s a literal copy of the track. Don’t think they’re would be too much of phase issues. It’s the same concept as parallel processing
@@CloudburstStudio so is it because it’s not the same tone on each track? I remember being young and copying a mono track, panning it and it sounding horrible, thus my discovery of phase cancellation lol. So I wouldn’t need to invert phase, as long as the tones are different?
@Tony B you’re awesome, thanks!
as long as you're using plugins and IRs from the same company, it should be phase coherent.
One tone is the main tone, copy that, then make a lower gain clankier tone almost like a bass guitar tone that lacks low end, then duplicate that and make a click treble focused tone.
Stagger them in volume so that you barely hear the paralleled guitar tracks and they're moreso used for clarity, pick attack, and that clanky tone.
Its an incredible technique
The thumbnail image says "GUTIAR" fyi
Alternatively you could go direct into an 80s Boomer Sanyo stereo system. Add MT2 for that sizzle. Mic up headphones record that through a $20k strip.
🤣 Not one JST amp sim or plugin in the mix except the EQ! There were SEVERAL plugins show that JST has an equilivant to. Wonder why that is 🧐...
that playing is just the tightest shit ever xDD
lol. its edited to the grid 100%
@@PedroHenrique-mj1mn I mean most stuff is these days but who cares whatever sounds good.
@@PedroHenrique-mj1mn even if it's edited to the grid, you still have to nail it in the pocket regardless lmao.
@@alrecks619 Na you can edit every single note if you really want to, but whyyy.
Joey Sturgis works with perfectly edited guitars, there's not a single off-time note. He has videos showing his technique on this.
Sick mix! Will you please make another and throw in some October ends songs? I'd suggest Dark, Play Time and Destroy Us All!!!!
How the hell do you avoid phase issues when you double up guitar tracks and change tones on one?
Always sounds like ass when I try it.
Have you tried bx_shredspread?
Zoom in ALOT and then just move it around until it sounds good
Wait... Why are you able get away with clipping plugins more in Cubase?
Because of it's foundational architecture. Cubase never distorts to sum it up. Just watch joey videos and he explains it in more detail. It's why he doesn't use other daws
@@GTORT Joey works in Reaper now)
@@GTORT isn't any DAW already done that? 32-bit floating points?
Am I the only one that thinks that the eq adjustments at 7:56 just suck the life out of this tone?
I’ve been seeing a lot of shit about Oceano recently, but nothing from Oceano themselves. What’s going on with them?
It amazes me how when three bad guitar sounds are comped together, can create one bad guitar tone.
super 🤘
omg I hate this sound, but thank you for this layer trick
Buster did something similar in his Oceano session I think.
@@PedroHenrique-mj1mn but his guitars sounds great)
Go hit the track. Sounds pretty sick with the bass, and you can still hear the guitar notes. Usually want less gain and more bite with super fast stuff (like Archspire for example). I actually don't always love Joey's mixes but this track sounds humongous
In context of whole mix it sounds killer though. Joey is incapable of releasing a bad sounding mix. Always really massive sounding. He is every bit as good as Buster and pioneered Busters mixing style over 10 years ago, so there's that.
That's a very old trick, they used to do this with tube amps since the 70s, these guys aren't inventing anything
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How do people even think of these mixing techniques? Lol
its magic
some days you're just bored trying random shit
4k is ear cancer on guitars. Joey’s eq scheme is part of why I always liked his guitar tones. I’d rather hear pod farm with less 4k than the most expensive amp with the hiss left in.
terrible "producer"
oh shit it's thedddemon, guys. i guess joey should quit producing
@@eyeslikeoceans 🤣👍
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And you've produced how many records?
Fun fact: you have no content posted on your TH-cam.