Oh, yeah, I know, I've been playing Civ for the last 30 years. And had all versions through out the years. And the gameplay in the video is from another TH-camr's channel. My favourite was Civ 5 with Vox Populi mod that made it just insanely good. Now, most people play Civ 6, so I'm also kinda on that. But haven't given it enough time yet, even though I own it with all DLC and expansions.
Finally catching up with the videos. This is already such a pleasure to watch, you're making some great historical stuff imo. I'm sure i'll come back and watch all these over again in the years to come.
Stunts is technically so impressive but (& I know this is controversial) I don’t find it that much fun. It’s just not responsive enough to play as a sim, rather than an “arcade” racer. Alien Breed SE was a great service pack but that lead to piracy even by people who preferred to buy their games legitimately, because a lot of people objected to buying the same game again, even with the improvements & extra content. I plaid the Bonk series on PC Engine & haven’t played BC Kid on the Amiga, I really should. I must take a look at Pushover too. Flashback is incredible & on the Amiga & thankfully lacks the truly horrible voice acting of the MegaCD version. 😄 Sim Ant was a surprise because it’s so good, Street Fighter 2 is the opposite. CD32 Wing Commander is not hardware sensitive the way the PC version is & it would have been the best choice if you actually had the choice at the time. Great video with some recommendations I haven’t played again, thanks.
I'm not gonna lie, I played much more Stunts on PC than on Amiga. It's because of the power difference. And my mates and I spent weeks just making tracks and racing on them for the records. On Amiga, since I had A500, I only ever played it alone, before I had said PC. Amiga's version of BC Kid is nearly as good as original. And that's not a small achievement. Pushover is amazing, No Step Beyond is very very good too, and a spiritual successor to Pushover. And the best thing about them is that they constantly introduce something new so they never get stale. They're really worth a try. Anyway, thanks for watching buddy, I'm glad you enjoyed it. :)
Absolutely love this series! Just to mention, despite what some areas of the internet state, Flashback actually came out in 1993. I remember playing it in the summer of '93 while waiting for Frontier's release. As evidence for this, Amiga Power reviewed Flashback for the first time in Issue 25, May 1993. Only lending further weight to your stance that 1993 was the greatest year for the Amiga, something that I've always believed too. Can't wait for the next episode! Cheers
Thank you very much! It means a lot! Really! Well, even if I'm off when it comes to FB's release date, the list for 1993 is really just a bomb! I fear I may have to include all those games I have on it and that would be a monster. Both in terms of the amount of these and length. I may need to shorten it to around 50-ish games but we'll see. I may go crazy but then I'd need few more days for it...
@@OldAndNewVideoGames Sounds amazing. Really appreciate the work that's gone into these videos, especially that you have given your succinct thoughts on each game too rather than them just being video montages. Some of the best Amiga content available on TH-cam in my opinion. Thanks again!
@@amigacompilations1599 Thanks! I kinda always thought that those 100 games in 10 minutes videos were missing something. I mean not only you got just a couple of seconds each but if someone hadn't played a particular game then without just a couple of sentences it was hard to figure out not only what it was about but sometimes even a genre. Not that I didn't enjoy them, but I played a lot of Amiga and PC games in the 80-90, so I kinda at least have a passing knowledge on many. Not all obviously, that's just impossible. But if someone let's say, just played few games on a friends system as a kid, and now played with an idea of getting A500 mini or a real Amiga or even playing some games on emulator, it's better if they at least get a very general understanding on what each game is about.
I've missed it it seems. 1992 under DOS and 1993 on Amiga. I may consider a separate video for it? It seems to be equally as popular on Amiga as on PC.
I wish you'd speak a bit faster, I keep having to alter the speed of the video. They send me to sleep. I reckon this is a bot or some kind of artificial intelligence doing the voice over.
Well, clearly I'm an automated oddly-accented AI sent from the future to put everyone to sleep in your present, so my past. When I succeed in my mission, we will all move back in time and take over all your resources. Or, hold on, what was the quote again? "All your base belong to us" ;)
Thank you! Glad you liked it! I've started working on 1993 and it's gonna be an even better year. Or it was, depends how you wanna look at it. ;) Regarding Jim Power, you may very well be right. It looked as 32 for me but perhaps it's HAM and 64.
The second peak year, and another great collection of classics. Monkey Island 2, Civilization, Flashback, Pinball Fantasies & Pinball Dreams, Eye of the Beholder II, Dune, Sensible Soccer, Apidya, BC Kid, Shadow of the Beast III, Lotus III, Agony, Jaguar etc.
Yep, true but I've already slowly started working on 1993, and I gotta say it has the best selection of games so far. Nearly every single one I've picked is either timeless classic or genre defining title.
The unfortunate reality is you spent most of your time waiting for the games to load. Even if you were lucky enough to have a hard drive, very very few games could be installed to it. Playing games from floppies in the mid 90s was a joke.
It was all I knew until we got a hard drive. It wasn't that bad to be honest, as I say it was all we knew so we didn't mind it that much, even to the extent that we enjoyed adventure games like Monkey Island and Indiana Jones before getting a hard drive. No offence, but to say you spent most of your time waiting for the games to load is a gross exaggeration for any game on the Amiga- on the Speccy, now that was different; I seem to recall twenty or more minutes was common! When we did get a hard disk for the A1200 (probably 1995 or later) I don't recall many games not being hard disk installable. Mind you, by that time I think a utility to make most games installable had been out for a few years, plus developers were more likely to make them installable by that time too. It was mostly the very early 90s/late 80s games that were frequently uninstallable. But anyway, it really wasn't bad if you weren't used to having a hard disk beforehand, or maybe a console. I never felt the urge to buy a second disk drive, and was a bit bemused to read in magazines that they were so popular.
I moved to Amiga from C64. Until I got my PC, Amiga floppies seemed very fast to me. With an obvious exception of multi-disk games and those that required multiple swaps in quick successions (like Mortal Kombat II).
@@danyoutube7491 Same here, maybe not 20 minutes but coming to Amiga from C64 seemed like a monstrous upgrade when it came to everything, pace of game loading included.
@@OldAndNewVideoGames The only computer we had before the Amiga was either a Commodore 16 or Plus 4, and I can't remember what media it used but it must have been tapes I think. My memories of slow Spectrum load times came from visits to my best friend's house. I remember one occasion when we were listening to some chart hits while waiting for the game to load, it was Kylie Minogue in a duet with Jason Donovan :)
@@danyoutube7491 Good music, good times? ;) And yeah, moving to Amiga from those earlier machines was like rediscovering gaming for the first time again. The games actually could have fully fleshed game worlds and stories that span thousands of dialogue lines. It was magic.
Yeah, I was supposed to note that it's CDTV version but forgot about it... The video was so big that the software kept crashing my PC, so when it finally rendered in full I was overjoyed that it did at all. ;) That said, since in 1993 there were many more models of Amiga, games in that video will have clear indication for what systems they were available for. Or clearer.
Streetfighter 2 amiga was the first timewe ever played the game! figuring out the moves with all your mates was so much fun, we loved it! However after encountering said game in the arcades I made up my mind to buy a SNES! Good times! Cheers for the video!
Same here, well similar. Perhaps I didn't drop it after seeing it in arcades cause I saw it there first. I was just overjoyed that I could play it at home. Regardless of how choppy the port was. :) And thanks for watching!
@@OldAndNewVideoGames I appreciated the Amiga version too, even knowing its flaws. Single button joysticks were the standard on the Amiga so I didn't mind the convoluted movements required to perform special moves. The choppiness was a bit disappointing but like you I was simply glad to be able to play it at home. Overall I definitely preferred a home computer to any of the consoles I had briefly watched/played on and so never lusted after a console, but of course it was clear that the SNES had an enviable, brilliant version of SF2, almost arcade perfect.
@@danyoutube7491 Yep, and Hyper Street Fighter 2 on the Genesis/Megadrive was pretty good too as it was de facto a Turbo version of the game. I did really like Super Street Fighter 2 The New Challengers on the Amiga, the one that played in very short but wide screen and had tiny characters. Sure, it didn't look great but it played so good...
@@AlexMenchi Thank you very much! I always credit the original creators in both video and description but I'm sure that you've noticed that already. And yes, sometimes it's time, sometimes it's skill that I lack now, years after playing some games last, and sometimes I just don't have a game or can't get it to run... :)
@@OldAndNewVideoGames One is some kind of arcade space ship(i think?) thing that collected some kind of balls or circles in pretty colorful setting. I really vaguely remember this game. It was not a side scroller but some kind of top down view and you had square levels or something like that. It sort of kind of gave me atomix vibe but it was not a puzzle game I think. The other game was like silkworm but it had plane I think and there was this huge train fight level. I remember you shooting down big berthas on train.
When I first payed Wing Commander at a friend's PC it was so overwhelming to me, that I didn't really want to play anything at home on my Amiga 500. Wing Commander then on the 500 had good music and sound but fewer colours than the VGA version and was too slow on an Amiga 500. Later on the 1200 with HD it was good. I sadly didn't play the CD32-Version but when that came out, I was playing the even better Wing Commander 2 at that friend's PC. Ultima 6 was nearly unpayable on a standard Amiga 500. But it had the best music of all versions and the same problem as Wing Commander: When it was playable on my Amiga 1200 Ultima VII and Underworld were out on the PC... . Good list but in my opinion you missed some quite good titles like Alcatraz, John Madden Football, Legend of Kryndia, Pacific Islands and Shadowlands/Shadowworlds... . And Red Baron was unplayable. Even later on the Amiga 1200 it was nearly unplayable. But best wishes and keep up the great work! I am looking forward to your next videos! At least one great year for the Amiga still to come and many very good gems from the next two years up to the mid-90s, - at least if you had decent Amiga Hardware then.
Around mid 90's I started noticing a pattern that all the games I was getting for my Amiga usually either looked worse or played worse than on PC. Sometimes both. And it was time when I seriously started thinking about moving to PC and when I finally did, I gotta admit, I loved it. Sure, it was less intuitive at first but in short time I got used to it and even started learning new things and tinkering. And despite World moving to x86 platform near entirely and me loving the platform now, I think I have a very soft spot for the Amiga and the time I spent on it. I had my first serious gaming experiences on it, in various genres, some of which didn't even exist earlier when I had C64. Btw. I already started slowly working on 1993 and it's looking better than the last few videos. At least games-wise. But I'm not sure I'll manage to have it out in a week cause many of the bigger/longer games have no footage on YT meaning I may have to record those myself and they usually have something to show for themselves few hours in. I will obviously be aiming for 7/8 days but up to 10 is not unlikely it seems.
@@OldAndNewVideoGames Take all the time you need. Your videos are great! And I do not want to create any Spoilers for the "upcoming" Amiga years, but with an 1200 and HD and maybe extra RAM I think some Amiga games had superior versions to the PC back then, for example UFO, Dune 2, in Parts Colonization (Music and the creative Workbench 3.0-like windowed interface on the Amiga), and let's not forget Ambermoon, a great RPG which was Amiga exclusive. I am also looking forward to Cannonfodder and surely some others. Older games like Wings by Cinemaware also were even much besser with an A1200 and HD. And at least in 93 there were many more fine games. Later when I had a CD-Drive for my 1200 "Oldtimer" (in english it was called Motor City) was a really gerat Game and even better than the PC version. I even started to enjoy old games like Their Finest Hour - Battle Of Britain by Lucasfilm on the Amiga 1200. It was finally smooth like hot butter. And some AGA versions showes what the 1200 was capable of: Alladin, Banshee, Roadkill, Pinball Illusions, Slamtilt Pinball, which to me was the best Pinball game on the Amiga. And as eberybody wanted First Person Shooters, of nearly all were crap on the Amiga, Alien Breed 3D was great and to me by far the best one on the Amiga. While it didn't have the best graphics ist was very playable and had a great level design.
@@DerDude1977 As much as I agree about Dune 2 and Colonization, the latter I loved especially as it was just awesome and that music... But UFO? Are you sure that it run better on A1200 than on PC? Cause I remember playing it on PC and being just awed how incredibly prompt and near instant everything was. Cannon Fodder is incredible. I play it from time to time even today. It's just a timeless classic with super fun intro tune. Oldtimer = Motor City? Cause according to HOL Motor City was never released. And I'm not sure I can cover Oldtimer when I know nothing about it, literally. I read some comments on Lemon Amiga but never played it. I don't speak German sadly. Wish I would but it is what it is. The only full German game I ever played and can honestly say I know a lot about is Vermeer. But that's cause I played it since I was a little kid (starting on C64, then Amiga and PC) and I just learned everything as I played along. The five A1200 games you mentioned are all very good indeed. I agree. But too little too late, I'm afraid. Commodore failed all of us. And since we're on our faves, then Pinball Fantasies will always be my 1st choice when it comes to 2D pinball and Gloom Deluxe best Amiga FPS. It was just so playable that not being very advanced technologically was not an issue for me.
@@OldAndNewVideoGames I played UFO with 6MB and a HD and it was fantastic and to me the AGA graphics were better than the DOS graphics. I played ist till the mid 2000 when my Amiga HD crashed and always prefered it over the PC version. Oldtimer was a great game with great graphics. You had to invent the first commercial cars up into the 20. century, build an car empire all over Europe and on AGA-Amigas you even could do races to test your new crations. It had good voxel graphics for the time. Surely not as good as Comanche on the PC but very lovely and professional done on the Amiga. It also had a kind of Sim City vibe as ypu could build your factpries, store rooms and so on. It had many historical informations and like in Vermeer and so on you had to do calculations, had many statistics. It was perfect for what it was. You are right that when it comes to really good AGA games it was "too little too late". You are right that Gloom Deluxe was a good FPS. but I liked AB3D more. I even liked AB3D more than Doom as I appreciated its gameplay more. But I wasn't really hyped by the First Person Shooter Genre until Duke Nukem 3D was released on PC.
@@DerDude1977 I read about Oldtimer somewhere as I always wondered if it was similar to Detroit. But it seems that it may have actually been released for PC as Motor City in English, so I might end up giving it a go at some point anyway. Anyway, one thing's for sure, as long as Amiga did live, that long games on it always had better music than what was available on PC. :)
I can never get tired of hearing about some of these games, they're just so fascinating. :) I've played Dune and Lotus 3 on the PC of course and it's interesting to hear the differences in music. I do prefer the Dune Ad Lib, it's more sci-fi than the music with close to natural sounding instruments (which make the game sound more like it's in an Earth Arabian setting). Two pinball games and my favourites too. My flipper fingers are itching. :D Did you notice how many times the very beautiful and atmospheric arcade games are often very difficult too? You're sitting there ready to throw your keyboard out the window, but still watching the demo playing, hoping to do a bit better next time to see the next levels, because you expect them to be fascinating. Or is it just me? :D
Flipper fingers, eh? Is that like Carpal tunnel syndrome but for pinballs? ;) Well, given how limited the storage was back then, content was quite minimal too (not always naturally), so to prolong the game's stay, a certain level of difficulty was a must. Or perhaps it was something that graduated to our home systems from arcades. A relic of older design... Who knows? ;)
@@OldAndNewVideoGames You know, itchy flipper fingers with a need to be scratched. ;) By playing some pinball of course. :D I think in those days the difficulty was a combination of both arcade legacy and limited resources. Even for games that weren't ports from arcades. :) Even the players expected the higher challenge.
@@OldAndNewVideoGames I'd never actually played any arcade games until I was an adult. So the arcade ports with their "continues" and "coins", but no saves were very confusing to me as a kid.
@@TeaAndFloppyDisks Makes sense. Kinda like a diskette, for most teens now is nothing more than the save game icon, with no other meaning behind it. xD
somehow praising Street Fighter 2 is much of an offense for the beloved Amiga. This port is very poor and it already was back then. 4 fps grey in grey fights with - afair - only 2 different stage music wasn't worth 4 empty discs to copy this title on them. This game (here only the Amiga port) is trash and should be treated like that.
And I didn't. In fact, I feel that I've belittled it quite a bit. All I said that it was a proof that it was possible if it was in better hands and that Super Street Fighter 2 The New Challengers was pretty good. :)
As bad a port as it was, and we knew it wasn't comparable to the fantastic console efforts which got 'proper' versions, it wasn't grey and the frame rate was far better than 4 FPS. There's no need to exaggerate. It was still good enough for many Amiga owners to enjoy for a while, even though we could see it wasn't smooth and as colourful as we would like and overall a shoddy port (apparently the person doing it was not given much help, had a tight deadline and little experience), and the awkwardness of the moves using a joystick was something we just accepted as unavoidable (one could hardly blame the person doing the port that joypads were a rarity among Amiga owners). The Amiga often got shoddy ports, which I think was partly par for the course in those days (often one platform or another got a bad port because not enough was invested in doing the port, the publishers knew a big title would sell), partly due to the Amiga being a bit difficult for some devs to get the best out of, and partly because the Amiga was plagued by piracy which didn't make it worth the dev's time to do a proper job. But many people prefer to praise the crackers as if they were doing something great, even now.
@@danyoutube7491 I played it quite a lot actually, until the Mortal Kombat came out that is. And later on Super Street Fighter 2 The New Challengers. Well, Shadow Fighter also kinda took some time off the classic SF2 but the three were just bangers on the Amiga. So, there's no surprise there really.
Warning, in Civ your cities of Orleans and Lyons are too close together and will have to share resources, resulting in limited growth for both.
Oh, yeah, I know, I've been playing Civ for the last 30 years. And had all versions through out the years. And the gameplay in the video is from another TH-camr's channel.
My favourite was Civ 5 with Vox Populi mod that made it just insanely good. Now, most people play Civ 6, so I'm also kinda on that. But haven't given it enough time yet, even though I own it with all DLC and expansions.
Finally catching up with the videos.
This is already such a pleasure to watch, you're making some great historical stuff imo.
I'm sure i'll come back and watch all these over again in the years to come.
Thank you so much! :)
Stunts is technically so impressive but (& I know this is controversial) I don’t find it that much fun. It’s just not responsive enough to play as a sim, rather than an “arcade” racer.
Alien Breed SE was a great service pack but that lead to piracy even by people who preferred to buy their games legitimately, because a lot of people objected to buying the same game again, even with the improvements & extra content.
I plaid the Bonk series on PC Engine & haven’t played BC Kid on the Amiga, I really should. I must take a look at Pushover too.
Flashback is incredible & on the Amiga & thankfully lacks the truly horrible voice acting of the MegaCD version. 😄
Sim Ant was a surprise because it’s so good, Street Fighter 2 is the opposite.
CD32 Wing Commander is not hardware sensitive the way the PC version is & it would have been the best choice if you actually had the choice at the time.
Great video with some recommendations I haven’t played again, thanks.
I'm not gonna lie, I played much more Stunts on PC than on Amiga. It's because of the power difference. And my mates and I spent weeks just making tracks and racing on them for the records. On Amiga, since I had A500, I only ever played it alone, before I had said PC. Amiga's version of BC Kid is nearly as good as original. And that's not a small achievement. Pushover is amazing, No Step Beyond is very very good too, and a spiritual successor to Pushover. And the best thing about them is that they constantly introduce something new so they never get stale. They're really worth a try.
Anyway, thanks for watching buddy, I'm glad you enjoyed it. :)
Those constant "can't reach" notification in the Eye of the Beholder 2 segment hurt my soul :D
LOL :)
The fact that I completed Monkey island 2 on amiga, while juggling 11 game disks, says all about the quality of that game. 😁
And about your patience, but yeah, it, the first part and both Indies are really worth it. :)
Haha! Yeah. I suppose it does.
Great compilation. Nice work.
Thank you very much! I appreciate it! :)
And I hope you don't mind I used around a minute of your video in it?
@@OldAndNewVideoGames you're very welcome.
Absolutely love this series! Just to mention, despite what some areas of the internet state, Flashback actually came out in 1993. I remember playing it in the summer of '93 while waiting for Frontier's release. As evidence for this, Amiga Power reviewed Flashback for the first time in Issue 25, May 1993. Only lending further weight to your stance that 1993 was the greatest year for the Amiga, something that I've always believed too. Can't wait for the next episode! Cheers
Thank you very much! It means a lot! Really!
Well, even if I'm off when it comes to FB's release date, the list for 1993 is really just a bomb! I fear I may have to include all those games I have on it and that would be a monster. Both in terms of the amount of these and length. I may need to shorten it to around 50-ish games but we'll see. I may go crazy but then I'd need few more days for it...
@@OldAndNewVideoGames Sounds amazing. Really appreciate the work that's gone into these videos, especially that you have given your succinct thoughts on each game too rather than them just being video montages. Some of the best Amiga content available on TH-cam in my opinion. Thanks again!
@@amigacompilations1599 Thanks! I kinda always thought that those 100 games in 10 minutes videos were missing something. I mean not only you got just a couple of seconds each but if someone hadn't played a particular game then without just a couple of sentences it was hard to figure out not only what it was about but sometimes even a genre. Not that I didn't enjoy them, but I played a lot of Amiga and PC games in the 80-90, so I kinda at least have a passing knowledge on many. Not all obviously, that's just impossible. But if someone let's say, just played few games on a friends system as a kid, and now played with an idea of getting A500 mini or a real Amiga or even playing some games on emulator, it's better if they at least get a very general understanding on what each game is about.
Where is Legends of Valour? It was literally my favourite game of all on the Amiga, and I've been eagerly awaiting seeing it covered.
I've missed it it seems. 1992 under DOS and 1993 on Amiga. I may consider a separate video for it? It seems to be equally as popular on Amiga as on PC.
I wish you'd speak a bit faster, I keep having to alter the speed of the video. They send me to sleep. I reckon this is a bot or some kind of artificial intelligence doing the voice over.
Well, clearly I'm an automated oddly-accented AI sent from the future to put everyone to sleep in your present, so my past. When I succeed in my mission, we will all move back in time and take over all your resources. Or, hold on, what was the quote again? "All your base belong to us" ;)
gezz whar a year! and what a video!
however, jim power has much more than 32 colors on screen.
Thank you! Glad you liked it!
I've started working on 1993 and it's gonna be an even better year. Or it was, depends how you wanna look at it. ;)
Regarding Jim Power, you may very well be right. It looked as 32 for me but perhaps it's HAM and 64.
@@OldAndNewVideoGames neither. its clever copper tricks and such so i believe its in 32 color mode and with tricks its up to about 90 colors on screen
@@takedeepshhh Still, it's pretty amazing for a machine that most though 32 colours was absolute celling for.
The second peak year, and another great collection of classics. Monkey Island 2, Civilization, Flashback, Pinball Fantasies & Pinball Dreams, Eye of the Beholder II, Dune, Sensible Soccer, Apidya, BC Kid, Shadow of the Beast III, Lotus III, Agony, Jaguar etc.
Yep, true but I've already slowly started working on 1993, and I gotta say it has the best selection of games so far. Nearly every single one I've picked is either timeless classic or genre defining title.
I played stunts.. holy crap, I'm old..
But wasn't that fun back then though?
Today, when we have Forzas and such noone would give it a thought but back then...
The unfortunate reality is you spent most of your time waiting for the games to load. Even if you were lucky enough to have a hard drive, very very few games could be installed to it. Playing games from floppies in the mid 90s was a joke.
It was all I knew until we got a hard drive. It wasn't that bad to be honest, as I say it was all we knew so we didn't mind it that much, even to the extent that we enjoyed adventure games like Monkey Island and Indiana Jones before getting a hard drive. No offence, but to say you spent most of your time waiting for the games to load is a gross exaggeration for any game on the Amiga- on the Speccy, now that was different; I seem to recall twenty or more minutes was common! When we did get a hard disk for the A1200 (probably 1995 or later) I don't recall many games not being hard disk installable. Mind you, by that time I think a utility to make most games installable had been out for a few years, plus developers were more likely to make them installable by that time too. It was mostly the very early 90s/late 80s games that were frequently uninstallable. But anyway, it really wasn't bad if you weren't used to having a hard disk beforehand, or maybe a console. I never felt the urge to buy a second disk drive, and was a bit bemused to read in magazines that they were so popular.
I moved to Amiga from C64. Until I got my PC, Amiga floppies seemed very fast to me. With an obvious exception of multi-disk games and those that required multiple swaps in quick successions (like Mortal Kombat II).
@@danyoutube7491 Same here, maybe not 20 minutes but coming to Amiga from C64 seemed like a monstrous upgrade when it came to everything, pace of game loading included.
@@OldAndNewVideoGames The only computer we had before the Amiga was either a Commodore 16 or Plus 4, and I can't remember what media it used but it must have been tapes I think. My memories of slow Spectrum load times came from visits to my best friend's house. I remember one occasion when we were listening to some chart hits while waiting for the game to load, it was Kylie Minogue in a duet with Jason Donovan :)
@@danyoutube7491 Good music, good times? ;)
And yeah, moving to Amiga from those earlier machines was like rediscovering gaming for the first time again. The games actually could have fully fleshed game worlds and stories that span thousands of dialogue lines. It was magic.
Xenon 2 is 1989, CDTV version is sometimes wrongly credited as 1992 but is 1991 indeed. Anyway great video and waiting for 1993
Yeah, I was supposed to note that it's CDTV version but forgot about it... The video was so big that the software kept crashing my PC, so when it finally rendered in full I was overjoyed that it did at all. ;)
That said, since in 1993 there were many more models of Amiga, games in that video will have clear indication for what systems they were available for. Or clearer.
dude, point and clicks have NOTHING to do with logic
I disagree. Many of the puzzles in most adventure games follow some kind of logic to a solution.
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Oh, no no no... Thank YOU! :)
Streetfighter 2 amiga was the first timewe ever played the game! figuring out the moves with all your mates was so much fun, we loved it! However after encountering said game in the arcades I made up my mind to buy a SNES! Good times! Cheers for the video!
Same here, well similar. Perhaps I didn't drop it after seeing it in arcades cause I saw it there first. I was just overjoyed that I could play it at home. Regardless of how choppy the port was. :)
And thanks for watching!
@@OldAndNewVideoGames I appreciated the Amiga version too, even knowing its flaws. Single button joysticks were the standard on the Amiga so I didn't mind the convoluted movements required to perform special moves. The choppiness was a bit disappointing but like you I was simply glad to be able to play it at home. Overall I definitely preferred a home computer to any of the consoles I had briefly watched/played on and so never lusted after a console, but of course it was clear that the SNES had an enviable, brilliant version of SF2, almost arcade perfect.
@@danyoutube7491 Yep, and Hyper Street Fighter 2 on the Genesis/Megadrive was pretty good too as it was de facto a Turbo version of the game. I did really like Super Street Fighter 2 The New Challengers on the Amiga, the one that played in very short but wide screen and had tiny characters. Sure, it didn't look great but it played so good...
great video thank you :)
Thank you too! Both for watching and for being partly responsible for the footage I was unable to get otherwise. :)
@@OldAndNewVideoGames You were right and don't hesitate to use the videos on my youtube channel if it saves you time
@@AlexMenchi Thank you very much! I always credit the original creators in both video and description but I'm sure that you've noticed that already. And yes, sometimes it's time, sometimes it's skill that I lack now, years after playing some games last, and sometimes I just don't have a game or can't get it to run... :)
@@OldAndNewVideoGames you're welcome :)
great, was looking forward to this..
Awesome! Thanks! And in that case, I'm happy to deliver :)
Im just hoping to find 2 games i've been playing as a kid but i completely forgot the names of them. Eventually maybe :)
What were they about? Perhaps I know of them and could help. So, describe them.
@@OldAndNewVideoGames
One is some kind of arcade space ship(i think?) thing that collected some kind of balls or circles in pretty colorful setting. I really vaguely remember this game. It was not a side scroller but some kind of top down view and you had square levels or something like that. It sort of kind of gave me atomix vibe but it was not a puzzle game I think.
The other game was like silkworm but it had plane I think and there was this huge train fight level. I remember you shooting down big berthas on train.
@@cpypcy Still thinking about the first one but is it possible that second was either Wings of Fury or Jetstrike?
@@OldAndNewVideoGames not a chance those 2 games are such obscured rare games that I have no clue where I even got them from as a kid.
@@cpypcy And I suppose nothing else comes to mind about them?
When I first payed Wing Commander at a friend's PC it was so overwhelming to me, that I didn't really want to play anything at home on my Amiga 500.
Wing Commander then on the 500 had good music and sound but fewer colours than the VGA version and was too slow on an Amiga 500. Later on the 1200 with HD it was good. I sadly didn't play the CD32-Version but when that came out, I was playing the even better Wing Commander 2 at that friend's PC.
Ultima 6 was nearly unpayable on a standard Amiga 500. But it had the best music of all versions and the same problem as Wing Commander: When it was playable on my Amiga 1200 Ultima VII and Underworld were out on the PC... .
Good list but in my opinion you missed some quite good titles like Alcatraz, John Madden Football, Legend of Kryndia, Pacific Islands and Shadowlands/Shadowworlds... .
And Red Baron was unplayable. Even later on the Amiga 1200 it was nearly unplayable.
But best wishes and keep up the great work! I am looking forward to your next videos! At least one great year for the Amiga still to come and many very good gems from the next two years up to the mid-90s, - at least if you had decent Amiga Hardware then.
Around mid 90's I started noticing a pattern that all the games I was getting for my Amiga usually either looked worse or played worse than on PC. Sometimes both. And it was time when I seriously started thinking about moving to PC and when I finally did, I gotta admit, I loved it. Sure, it was less intuitive at first but in short time I got used to it and even started learning new things and tinkering. And despite World moving to x86 platform near entirely and me loving the platform now, I think I have a very soft spot for the Amiga and the time I spent on it. I had my first serious gaming experiences on it, in various genres, some of which didn't even exist earlier when I had C64.
Btw. I already started slowly working on 1993 and it's looking better than the last few videos. At least games-wise. But I'm not sure I'll manage to have it out in a week cause many of the bigger/longer games have no footage on YT meaning I may have to record those myself and they usually have something to show for themselves few hours in. I will obviously be aiming for 7/8 days but up to 10 is not unlikely it seems.
@@OldAndNewVideoGames Take all the time you need. Your videos are great!
And I do not want to create any Spoilers for the "upcoming" Amiga years, but with an 1200 and HD and maybe extra RAM I think some Amiga games had superior versions to the PC back then, for example UFO, Dune 2, in Parts Colonization (Music and the creative Workbench 3.0-like windowed interface on the Amiga), and let's not forget Ambermoon, a great RPG which was Amiga exclusive. I am also looking forward to Cannonfodder and surely some others. Older games like Wings by Cinemaware also were even much besser with an A1200 and HD. And at least in 93 there were many more fine games. Later when I had a CD-Drive for my 1200 "Oldtimer" (in english it was called Motor City) was a really gerat Game and even better than the PC version. I even started to enjoy old games like Their Finest Hour - Battle Of Britain by Lucasfilm on the Amiga 1200. It was finally smooth like hot butter. And some AGA versions showes what the 1200 was capable of: Alladin, Banshee, Roadkill, Pinball Illusions, Slamtilt Pinball, which to me was the best Pinball game on the Amiga. And as eberybody wanted First Person Shooters, of nearly all were crap on the Amiga, Alien Breed 3D was great and to me by far the best one on the Amiga. While it didn't have the best graphics ist was very playable and had a great level design.
@@DerDude1977 As much as I agree about Dune 2 and Colonization, the latter I loved especially as it was just awesome and that music... But UFO? Are you sure that it run better on A1200 than on PC? Cause I remember playing it on PC and being just awed how incredibly prompt and near instant everything was.
Cannon Fodder is incredible. I play it from time to time even today. It's just a timeless classic with super fun intro tune.
Oldtimer = Motor City? Cause according to HOL Motor City was never released. And I'm not sure I can cover Oldtimer when I know nothing about it, literally. I read some comments on Lemon Amiga but never played it. I don't speak German sadly. Wish I would but it is what it is. The only full German game I ever played and can honestly say I know a lot about is Vermeer. But that's cause I played it since I was a little kid (starting on C64, then Amiga and PC) and I just learned everything as I played along.
The five A1200 games you mentioned are all very good indeed. I agree. But too little too late, I'm afraid. Commodore failed all of us.
And since we're on our faves, then Pinball Fantasies will always be my 1st choice when it comes to 2D pinball and Gloom Deluxe best Amiga FPS. It was just so playable that not being very advanced technologically was not an issue for me.
@@OldAndNewVideoGames I played UFO with 6MB and a HD and it was fantastic and to me the AGA graphics were better than the DOS graphics. I played ist till the mid 2000 when my Amiga HD crashed and always prefered it over the PC version.
Oldtimer was a great game with great graphics. You had to invent the first commercial cars up into the 20. century, build an car empire all over Europe and on AGA-Amigas you even could do races to test your new crations. It had good voxel graphics for the time. Surely not as good as Comanche on the PC but very lovely and professional done on the Amiga. It also had a kind of Sim City vibe as ypu could build your factpries, store rooms and so on. It had many historical informations and like in Vermeer and so on you had to do calculations, had many statistics. It was perfect for what it was.
You are right that when it comes to really good AGA games it was "too little too late".
You are right that Gloom Deluxe was a good FPS. but I liked AB3D more. I even liked AB3D more than Doom as I appreciated its gameplay more. But I wasn't really hyped by the First Person Shooter Genre until Duke Nukem 3D was released on PC.
@@DerDude1977 I read about Oldtimer somewhere as I always wondered if it was similar to Detroit. But it seems that it may have actually been released for PC as Motor City in English, so I might end up giving it a go at some point anyway.
Anyway, one thing's for sure, as long as Amiga did live, that long games on it always had better music than what was available on PC. :)
i had crushez on that dune Channi drawing back when i was a kid
Ha ha ha :)
I can never get tired of hearing about some of these games, they're just so fascinating. :)
I've played Dune and Lotus 3 on the PC of course and it's interesting to hear the differences in music. I do prefer the Dune Ad Lib, it's more sci-fi than the music with close to natural sounding instruments (which make the game sound more like it's in an Earth Arabian setting).
Two pinball games and my favourites too. My flipper fingers are itching. :D
Did you notice how many times the very beautiful and atmospheric arcade games are often very difficult too? You're sitting there ready to throw your keyboard out the window, but still watching the demo playing, hoping to do a bit better next time to see the next levels, because you expect them to be fascinating. Or is it just me? :D
Flipper fingers, eh? Is that like Carpal tunnel syndrome but for pinballs? ;)
Well, given how limited the storage was back then, content was quite minimal too (not always naturally), so to prolong the game's stay, a certain level of difficulty was a must. Or perhaps it was something that graduated to our home systems from arcades. A relic of older design... Who knows? ;)
@@OldAndNewVideoGames You know, itchy flipper fingers with a need to be scratched. ;) By playing some pinball of course. :D
I think in those days the difficulty was a combination of both arcade legacy and limited resources. Even for games that weren't ports from arcades. :) Even the players expected the higher challenge.
@@TeaAndFloppyDisks Perhaps, yeah. :)
@@OldAndNewVideoGames I'd never actually played any arcade games until I was an adult. So the arcade ports with their "continues" and "coins", but no saves were very confusing to me as a kid.
@@TeaAndFloppyDisks Makes sense. Kinda like a diskette, for most teens now is nothing more than the save game icon, with no other meaning behind it. xD
somehow praising Street Fighter 2 is much of an offense for the beloved Amiga. This port is very poor and it already was back then. 4 fps grey in grey fights with - afair - only 2 different stage music wasn't worth 4 empty discs to copy this title on them. This game (here only the Amiga port) is trash and should be treated like that.
And I didn't. In fact, I feel that I've belittled it quite a bit. All I said that it was a proof that it was possible if it was in better hands and that Super Street Fighter 2 The New Challengers was pretty good. :)
As bad a port as it was, and we knew it wasn't comparable to the fantastic console efforts which got 'proper' versions, it wasn't grey and the frame rate was far better than 4 FPS. There's no need to exaggerate. It was still good enough for many Amiga owners to enjoy for a while, even though we could see it wasn't smooth and as colourful as we would like and overall a shoddy port (apparently the person doing it was not given much help, had a tight deadline and little experience), and the awkwardness of the moves using a joystick was something we just accepted as unavoidable (one could hardly blame the person doing the port that joypads were a rarity among Amiga owners). The Amiga often got shoddy ports, which I think was partly par for the course in those days (often one platform or another got a bad port because not enough was invested in doing the port, the publishers knew a big title would sell), partly due to the Amiga being a bit difficult for some devs to get the best out of, and partly because the Amiga was plagued by piracy which didn't make it worth the dev's time to do a proper job. But many people prefer to praise the crackers as if they were doing something great, even now.
@@danyoutube7491 I played it quite a lot actually, until the Mortal Kombat came out that is. And later on Super Street Fighter 2 The New Challengers. Well, Shadow Fighter also kinda took some time off the classic SF2 but the three were just bangers on the Amiga. So, there's no surprise there really.