Since Occupy I have struggled to be multi-tenacdy in order to escape the limits of each, but lead into inaction by having all the limts imposed instead. I spent the last 6 years asrideof all this change doing a radio program to figure this out with media A 3, 'base build' with community media a 4. Being in the same spot, I'm back to Green Party work since that is also an org that does some of 1 while being clean of the dems. but suffer from the problems discussed. I'm trying to thread the needle of being a 1, I'm about to run for city council; many groups around me consider themsleves to be doing 4, just within their orgs, like DSA, pSL, SP etc
@ this case is particularly interesting. Momentum was by far the largest and most coherent caucus in the DSA. They won hegemony in the Philadelphia chapter. But they’re factionalism cause them to be widely distrusted, even within their own caucus. So momentum rebranded as “bread and roses” & excluded the momentum affiliates in Philly. My understanding is that solidarity helped initiate the new formation. Solidarity is, of course, the post Draper-ite organization that is the driving force behind Labor notes. Solidarity is very eclectic and include members of the Tempest collective who notably exited the DSA after their last convention.
These are great analyses and nice arrows to add to a quiver of analytical tools. I come from the Twin Cities IWW GDC milieu and think that's the most promising direction to go: a combination of all these tendencies except state participation, which (at this point anyway) only results in liquidation, wasted energy, and disappointment.
I and a few others were building a powerful, effective M4A commitee. DSA local voted us out of existence. Time to elect Democrats. 3 yrs ago. Sickening.
Maybe you already do this a lot and I just happened to have not seen it but I agree strongly with the choice to put the actual text you are reading from up on the screen in the vod.
@@yawnandjokeoh so like the literal 20th time someone has tried that by fiat. Like I agree… but how and why does everyone who has tried to do this in the US after 1940s fail and fail miserably
~34:40 Now that I think about it Thomas Sowell/Asmongold do very much fit the Mutual Aid/Self Care angle. edit: ~37:47 wow it's like there's all this audience out there you could be going for but instead people are doubling down on their captured audience.
"this is why they are sectarian" It's either that from the inside or a gross unwillingness to engage from the outside on a level of evidence as a matter of psychological hangups/propaganda. I mean if there's a willingness to do debates(/popular engagement/etc.) anyhow. (I will say I was quite disappointed in Non-Compete when he joined the Landback bandwagon and had zero interest in discussing how this isn't just noble savages for Bezos as opposed to land reform for us all to enjoy) edit: Thinking out in text.
As for how do I get disappointed well I sent em a main and they sent me lengthy copypasta that AI could easily debunk if you just asked the AI "so in how far does this substantiate the argument XYZ being progressed". AI is nice but we didn't have AI back then. Would've preferred an actual conversation. But yeah AI is nice. edit: I'd avoid the google one although using it might make that obvious (not sure about the new one they just rolled out).
@@francopalombo there is a critique of the tendency, I will eventually cover but Left Voice has all sorts of Trot tendencies I have seen published there
Since Occupy I have struggled to be multi-tenacdy in order to escape the limits of each, but lead into inaction by having all the limts imposed instead. I spent the last 6 years asrideof all this change doing a radio program to figure this out with media A 3, 'base build' with community media a 4. Being in the same spot, I'm back to Green Party work since that is also an org that does some of 1 while being clean of the dems. but suffer from the problems discussed. I'm trying to thread the needle of being a 1, I'm about to run for city council; many groups around me consider themsleves to be doing 4, just within their orgs, like DSA, pSL, SP etc
08:10 DSA Momentum = Bread & Roses Caucus
@@markpatterson3723 DSA caucuses are ever emergent
@ this case is particularly interesting. Momentum was by far the largest and most coherent caucus in the DSA. They won hegemony in the Philadelphia chapter. But they’re factionalism cause them to be widely distrusted, even within their own caucus. So momentum rebranded as “bread and roses” & excluded the momentum affiliates in Philly.
My understanding is that solidarity helped initiate the new formation. Solidarity is, of course, the post Draper-ite organization that is the driving force behind Labor notes. Solidarity is very eclectic and include members of the Tempest collective who notably exited the DSA after their last convention.
Expressive hobbyists have pretty much been the strongest left tendency since the 1960s unfortunately.
These are great analyses and nice arrows to add to a quiver of analytical tools. I come from the Twin Cities IWW GDC milieu and think that's the most promising direction to go: a combination of all these tendencies except state participation, which (at this point anyway) only results in liquidation, wasted energy, and disappointment.
I and a few others were building a powerful, effective M4A commitee. DSA local voted us out of existence. Time to elect Democrats. 3 yrs ago. Sickening.
Maybe you already do this a lot and I just happened to have not seen it but I agree strongly with the choice to put the actual text you are reading from up on the screen in the vod.
Have you had fun with Cy Borg btw?
Chris Smalls from the Amazon Labor Union just posted his bid to re-launch an American Labor Party.
@@yawnandjokeoh so like the literal 20th time someone has tried that by fiat. Like I agree… but how and why does everyone who has tried to do this in the US after 1940s fail and fail miserably
Speaking of competing book clubs, jean allen is now the editor of the bulletin of the Marxist Unity Caucus
~34:40 Now that I think about it Thomas Sowell/Asmongold do very much fit the Mutual Aid/Self Care angle. edit: ~37:47 wow it's like there's all this audience out there you could be going for but instead people are doubling down on their captured audience.
Would not the Campaign for a Socialist Party fit under the base-builders category by this definition?
@@theswoletariat3479 it might. It depends on how they go about it
"this is why they are sectarian" It's either that from the inside or a gross unwillingness to engage from the outside on a level of evidence as a matter of psychological hangups/propaganda. I mean if there's a willingness to do debates(/popular engagement/etc.) anyhow. (I will say I was quite disappointed in Non-Compete when he joined the Landback bandwagon and had zero interest in discussing how this isn't just noble savages for Bezos as opposed to land reform for us all to enjoy)
edit: Thinking out in text.
As for how do I get disappointed well I sent em a main and they sent me lengthy copypasta that AI could easily debunk if you just asked the AI "so in how far does this substantiate the argument XYZ being progressed". AI is nice but we didn't have AI back then. Would've preferred an actual conversation. But yeah AI is nice. edit: I'd avoid the google one although using it might make that obvious (not sure about the new one they just rolled out).
What about Leftvoice? The pure trotskist
@@francopalombo there is a critique of the tendency, I will eventually cover but Left Voice has all sorts of Trot tendencies I have seen published there
I personally prefer Marxist Leninism tendency