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Very sad , when you can't retain your structure then it is a wastage to work so hard and loose everything after-all , very very sad and disappointing !!
Dorian Yates was interviewed by London Real and he said that his testes stopped producing testosterone so he had to compensate by administering artificial testosterone
OMG people. This video isn't to debate whether or not any of them use roids. They all did, LOTS AND LOTS, as well as HGH... This video is simply to illustrate that fact by showing how deflated they get once off the gear...
Of course, I just think it's hilarious how they get all defensive when somebody brings up the fact that they're on it, saying it's all "genetics and hard work"............bullshit! No doubt it's hard work, but being willing to stick a needle in your ass is the key component
+jscottrockford most will admit use after their career is over. Anyone who admits while "in" the industry as a competitor seeking endorsements will be ruined. They HAVE to lie to keep the $ pouring in. The supp industry wants all the little Johnnies and Billies and Bradlies out there to think these guys are all natty and that it's actually possible to get this big just using supps and training hard. When the reality is most of the supps these monsters endorse either don't do shit, or aren't even being used at all. If Phil Health admitted he's on gear right now, do you think Muscle Tech or Flex Magazine whoever else is padding his bank accounts would keep sponsoring him?! HELL NO! The supp companies know anyone who openly admits to using isn't going to be believed as an endorsement. Rich Piana is only open and honest about it because he doesn't need the body building industry. He has $ pouring in from other sources and makes $ on his own supp line....
+Bob-A-Lou Anna Maria Excellent point.........all these guys are sponsored by half a dozen companies trying to sell you their shitty "pre-workout super blaster mass exploder" and a bunch of other garbage that doesn't do anything
+jscottrockford absolutely. I poured dozens of lbs of protein powder down my gullet over a decade and a half with zero real results. Then watched a friend who had done the same thing with same results, switch to a cycle of steroids and no supplements and put on 30lbs of muscle mass in about 8 weeks... Right then I stopped buying all supplements (except pre work out because I do have more energy on those) But BCAA's, protein, this that and the other, all garbage waste of time. Now if you're on steroids and growth hormone, those supplements may actually add to the mix and give you an advantage. But it's just ridiculous how MUCH of these guys physiques are because of the gear...
+jscottrockford I found a study once, I'll post the link if I find it. There were 4 test groups of around 1500 men each. Group 1 - given placebo (saline) injections and told to maintain usual lifestyle but not work out or exercise. Group 2 - given steroid injections (not sure which compound) and told to maintain normal lifestyle but not workout or exercise. Group 3 - given placebo (saline) injections and told to begin or continue a heavy workout regime. Group 4 - given steroid injections and told to begin or continue a heavy work out regime. Obviously the group who saw the least (or zero) change were the ones given the placebo injections and did not work out. And of course the group given steroids who did work out saw the biggest change by adding muscle mass as well as losing body fat. But, the surprising (not to me) thing for the researchers was that group 2, the men given the steroids who did not work out, saw a dramatic change. In fact ...
Probably because they aren't that dark out of stage and they are much leaner than normally when on stage too. The subtances could also play a role in it.
2 "stupid" comments, i explain: 1) ok, you 2 make maybe body building but.... it' the same if you say i'm football player and compare to... Ronaldo or Messi. Formula one with rally... Ok it's the same name for sport but not the same CATEGORY and taking nothing or just few injection can't give you THOSE results. Stay natty or use few steroids is NOT being Pro Bodybuilder ( Genetic, 5000cal+ or... 1700!!! , perfect diet, best products....) 2) You can take the bottle of what you want, without the 1) AND a very very very Hard training you will obtain zero result compare THOSE bodies! And final, i had the opportunity to see JAY for REAL and see video or be next to him is a HUGE difference 😄😄😄
Also full of studies showing zero side effects when done correctly, even better health since low T is a leading cause of many issues in older men. Low T in women is also a issue, our bodies kill themselves.. keeping levels up instead of letting them bottom out is what I would call foward thinking.
Does not have to be, why slowly let your body age, rot and destroy itself when you can slow the process. And in the next 50-100 years start preventing it altogether
Not even close to true, Mitochondria is the cause of aging and the low production of NAD. Until now the only way to slow this down was caloric restriction and working out. They have now doubled the life in mice by increasing production of NAD. Body cutting back HGH and TEST has nothing to do with it trying to "prevent cancer" lol. Actually low T is one of the leading causes of cancer in men, proven fact. People on test replacment/hgh are living wayyy longer than 65, test replacement especially now is very much a good thing. Pesticides etc are wrecking our levels, we now have 18yr old men with test levels of 40 yr old men and our highest sperm counts now are lower than what sperm banks would even accept 20 years ago. So no, test has nothing at all to to with Mitochondria or NAD, and the body reducing it is one of the many ways it kills itself.. not it trying to save its self from cancer, especially since cancer is just now becoming so widespread.
couldn't agree with you more neeli Flex wheeler is the worst out of all of them f****** gross Coleman and Cutler probably are the best and is that gay dude holding it to little dogs and see what they call Palumbo's stomach from this guy
Well, as one retired competitive bodybuilder told me, you just get tired of having to eat all that food to maintain your mass. When you figure that you have gotten about as big as you are ever going to get or if you are a powerlifter about as strong as you are ever going to get, there is no great incentive to keep up all that intensive training.
This is actually mind blowing. Like, I assumed these guys lose some of the size once they stop juicing... but some of these are just crazy declines in physique. Amazing content as usual, Nick.
But they look a lot more normal now and less freakish. This is how closer to how they would look like if they were never on the juice. It's a huge difference.
This doesn't only happen cuz of roids lmao. Change in diet and training makes the body consume more muscle in one case, and build up fat in some other cases(depending on diet and training ofc). Note: I am not saying they didn't do roids but I'm saying it's not just the roids in question here ;).
Whitout the steroids they are nothing. Here in Belgium a tv reporter started training for 6 moths to compete the national championchip. He trained hard, good diet an vitamines, no dope at all, he finished 8 out of 12. After a half year they called him to say he endend second because 9 of them where caught using steriods hahaahahaaa
well i guess this is rather rare tho. most get kidney problems from drugs, also for the kidney to suffer from protein, they will have to take too much. which wouldnt even help anymore building muscle, they only would start getting fat
Lewvrone's physique post retirement is the best proof of the extreme effect performance enhancing substances have on the human body. "Hard work and dedication" and yada yada yda, Levrone was one of the most gifted bodfybuilders and when he went off the juice he ended up looking plain ordinary. Mind boggling.
Steroids don't just massively increase your gains, they also allow you to train longer and harder, as well as to recover much faster between workouts. As a consequence, you are physically able to train so much more and not burn your muscles. Steroids also have your metabolism in over-drive, meaning you 're hungry and want to eat constantly, which is great for building muscle, so long as you eat the right stuff. When you get off steroids, all these start to demenish exponentially, so you end up not being physically or mentally able to train as long and hard and eat as much, so they naturally shrink considerably over time. From a scientific standpoint, steroids can do so much good to people who are suffer from fatigue, stress, weight issues (either over or under-weight), muscle waste for the over 60s. The medical applications for everyday betterment of life are so vast it's immoral that most societies refuse to legalise them because some people choose to use them for bodybuilding, a choice they make that only effects them and their health. It's exactly like food. It wouldn't be fair to ban pizzas, ice-cream etc because some people choose to eat to such a degree that it makes them unhealthy. Just let people be able to go to private doctors and get a proper nutritional and steroid treatment plan based on their needs and society as a whole will be mch healtheir, physically and emotionally.
Thank you Markus. I tried a cycle of oral D-Bol tablets when I was 25 after 6 years of training naturally and having reached about 90% of my natural peak in terms of muscle mass and size. With D-bol I was able to train harder and longer and gladly eat enough to make the breakthrough I had been trying so hard for, for over 2 years. I made such great gains in 6 weeks it was incredible. But when I went off cycle, I gradually ended up losing almost the entirety of my newly gained muscle and was left with a slightly higher bodyfat %. I knew then I naturally wasn't able to maintain a physique post cycle unless I cycled on and off pretty much all year round. Given the legal and social issues facing steroids and those who use them, I decided my career wasn't worth risking over it, so I was forced to make a decision about my body that effected no one else, based on social stigma and scientific ignorance. It's absolutely disgusting that I can smoke, eat and drink myself to death at everyone else's expense due to the drain my treatments would cost the National Health Service, yet wanting to enjoy life by recreationally taking substances that increase my zest for life and a healthy body are blocked because people today are pushing for overweight, immobile and physically unattractive people to forcibly be accepted as 'beautiful' and those of us who take pride in our bodies are labeled as 'criminals'.
Impressive reading! I have always felt very bad about steroids. Never used them, never even seen them in reality. I have just read about the catastrophical stories of some overusing individuals. I think the natural way is the best (getting all substances into the body strictly through organic food, no laboratory stuff - chemical or genetic) but still, what you have written gave me a more balanced and complete perspective on this topic. Thank you.
jakubkrcma You 'e welcome. I think the greatest problem surrounding steroids is people not engaging in conversation about them. You hear the word and immediately have this knee-jerk reaction to condemn them and criticise users as junkies when the reality is they are a drug just like ibuprofen and paracetamol, abuse them and you will hurt yourself, take them sensibly with proper diet and training and you can achieve your desired physique. If we can allow smoking and alcohol, there exists 0 reasons to not allow steroids for personal use.
pkScary you don’t lose all the muscle you’ve made after taking steroids. If you keep training, you can keep a lot of it so he doesn’t need the steroids to be that big anymore
love it when people say "yeah, they take steroids but they work their asses off and none of you could look like them." Look at these guys off the steroids. Look like average joes!!
Yeah because anyone can be a fucking bodybuilder given the right motivating factors and roids in very little time. You want to see feats that can't be done by anyone? Strength feats cannot be done by average joes and hold world records, it just doesn't happen. This is where the respect is genuinely earned, strongman/powerlifting/weightlifting. Bodybuilding is male pageantry and nothing more.
buddy I do powerlifting and my best total probably crushes yours based off how delusional you are... any person who has worked out long enough with any kind direction whther it be strength or show knows genetics are the determining factor, not steroids, not work ethic... list is as follows genetics food steroids hard work
ive always been very curious about the difference between steroids and genetics. if you take a look and see pictures of pro before and after competition you can see that when they have done taking them they look like ordinary people but they always want you to belive they were the most gifted person on the planet and the muscles came cause their genetics and not cause of steroids. bullshit , i give you an example ,if you see pictures of arnold freedrugs in the 80s he looked extremely skiny and arnold is for the majority of fans the most gifted guy in history but nobody realize he starter consuming roids in a very early age.
See anyone who looks non humanly big it's steroids....nobody just says steroids for no reason it's really obvious look how normal they look off steroids
You have Zero idea of what you are talking about dude.!!!He and a below knee amputation from Vascular issues and pain nothing to do with his kidney. The kidney was part of his vascular complications but that’s not why he opted to do a BKA. I’m an Orthopedic P.A and I know what I’m Talking about. Flex was in Vegas where I live and worked when this happened. Stop regurgitating nonsense you M O R O N!!!
Its almost compeltly from the Diuretics, it borderline puts them in the hospital how low they get for these shows. Some forget to drink water after, eat salty food and go into muscle lock down and must be taken to hospital. High amounts of protein have never been shown to cause kidney issues unless you have kidney issues already, 1-2g of protein per lb of bodyweight is perfectly healthy.
+Anvil Rubicon I liked Ruhl's big oil injected biceps lol they motivated me when I was young and naive about steroids. I wanted arms like Ruhl so bad lol
To your comment on strength, I contest that given proper training and dietary programming, it's not necessarily a foregone conclusion. Look at Jack Lalanne, Joseph Greenstein, Charles Atlas, Alexander Zass, Great Gama and just hosts of competent yoga and martial arts instructors. You wouldn't confuse any of these people as being either weak or unaesthetic in their advanced ages. True, none of them are as big as bodybuilders of today, but consider any of Jack Lalanne's feats at age of 60+ and there is a definite argument to be made that we don't necessarily have to be weak as we age. John E Peterson, someone I failed to name above, is able to perform 3-500 hindu pushups and squats in one set in his 50's. Pump out close grip pullups in sets of 20 and do a nose to the mat bridge, all while keeping very respectable musculature that quite honestly looks like someone in their 20's. This isn't really meant to be an argument, I just wanted to state that there's a big difference between what we as a society equate to strength, and what actual strength denotes. Also, all those people I mentioned trained and thrived in the pre steroid period.
def, there's lots of older dudes much more ripped and strong than lots people in their 20s. But elite level athletes and bodybuilders usually peak performance-wise and strength-wise when younger
Why do it call cheating? Even with anabolic steroids it is a big amount of hard work. They play in a league where everyone knows that they can´t be natural. I think people like Jeff seid are heating much more. They call themselves natural and getting their money by lying.
lol if u don´t put in the testo your female hormone will dominate what is the reason for loosing muscles and gaining fat. Your muscle growth goes hand in hand with the testo in your body. If u put in the juice by syringe your body stops his own production until you stop it. and than it takes some weeks or months until you get on a normal humans level. But i hope you don´t think that you can naturally gain these mass of muscles and i don´t support juice but u have to train very hard anyway to get that big. Or do you think that Arnold or other Mr. Universe and Olympia sit on their couch and watched TV?
Think it is mostly due to GH not steroids. GH gives enormous gains. Although, steroids are ever so often added to the mix but the biggest gains are from somatotropin. Main negative aspect of anabolic steroids (competition wise) is high water retention not taking into account other negative things though fat and water is easily negated with thyroid hormones and diuretics so it comes down to how much of a walking lab you wanna be and whether or not ones liver and kidneys can take that much punishment not to mention the hormonal and other phisiological disbalances caused by the abuse of peds.
most of them still need steroids because their bodies stop production or minimize production of his own testosterone for life...if you are on testosterone for many years your body wont produce their own testosterone..... but the first thin and the most important is psychology of steroid users...?their confidence is build on how big they look and shock at the end is incredible.... and if you like to lift weights ir is the best to make your own gym in garage and train by yourself and don't look at posers and don't look pictures and videos online.....maybe read good articles about food...buy some proteins and creatine....don't use so high rep range as in the most articles because 12 reps is for steroid users....lift in 6-8 range sometimes for strength 5,3 or even 1rmax ...
Shawn Louis dude really why do people always care about color that what you noticed about the guy is he stopped tanning so his skin isn’t dark wow you’re fucking pathetic
Not for the use of making bulk I used to take steroid as therapy to cure skin allergy for about 20 years. I was 14 when my skin was heavily damaged from allergic symptom. I remember I got 100mg to stop the symptom. I got extremely stimulated and confident that could't go to sleep in the nights. Hair and muscles grew and my character changed to the wild one. I was like an angel before the start. I used to be real good in any sports. However I became really tired and weak and allergy started again when steroid level dropped down so I went to the doctor and it repeated again and again. The amount I ate was amazing but I was still lean and ripped because I was still young at that time. However in the age of 30 I became a big guy literally due to heavy work load, lots of drinking and eating with lacks of exercise. Moon face and barrel belly I got. Most of all the I suffered with Cushing syndrome. Bones got weakened and skin got thinner so got stretch marks and blood vessel shown.. I put my best effort to quit for long years. My body condition is not on the peak but I look better now. I have got my handsome face again and skin looks much better now. Thanks God, I have got two lovely children as well. Do not use steroids at any circumstances. To whom suffering with fatal skin allergy I recommend 'Tofacitinib'. Any itchiness stops in 10 seconds.
Anyone know why these guys that lose all the muscle/weight end up avoiding stretch marks? If you go from skinny to real fat you are likely to get them, a lot of these guys dropped what appears to be 100+ pounds
WOW!!!! After seeing that what is the point of working out? Some of those guys didn't look like they had ever been to a gym before in their lives after just a few years of not competing, and they were at one time massive dudes! Why spend the time to get big, spend the money on supplements, and the effort and sacrifice just to see it all disappear without a trace? I guess the moral is to work out for health, not for vanity.
BCB the journey and lifestyle u live as a bodybuilder is beyond imaginable but u cannot get too greedy and thats why u eventually have to get off unless u risk dying early bcos of it.
BCB the moral is to live exactly how you want not caring about what other people like you think rather than be like them and live average lives complaining about others
I'm not complaining about others; but rather am expressing my own opinion that the choices and sacrifices necessary to become massive are not choices and sacrifices that I would make. If someone wants to go down that road they certainly can. If a person wants to do anything with their life that doesn't infringe on someone else I see no problem with it. I work out, eat well, and try to get an aesthetic body; but my goal is for health and longevity. I don't care about the stage personally. If someone else does, that is their prerogative.
BCB so your talking like you dont care about what they do which is good but yet you question why they make the sacrifices they did/do which compeltely contradicts your point. It comes down to a simple question of "was it worth it?" for you it may not be but just because it isnt for you doesnt mean it isnt for them, personally no matter how many people question what they do, the fact is that not everyone can get to their level with drugs or without drugs. I'm only commenting because I am a die hard fan of bodybuilding
Its amazing how significant roads are in this game When i got out of the Army i was in great shape after training for all the years that i was in. So many people would ask me; dude, what are you taking? i took fried chicken, doughnuts and protein drinks and trained heavy. I won power lifting contests at Ft Riley Ks.Well, after getting my hands on some anadrol 50, within 3 weeks my bench went from 315 for maybe 3 reps to 8 to 10 reps. Its crazy, If you train hard and take gear you will get way more than the 10 percent people talk about but yes there is a down side, Big time!
I think the down side is based in genetics, some of these guys just look like normal aging men, some of the guys look like they were taking party drugs along with the roids
+thomas grim that's why I'll never do them. Because when I cycle off and see all my gains go away I'd probably get depressed and hate my body and go back on them. Which would start an addiction to them.
I banned you so all that time you spent commenting all my videos was wasted they were all automatically hidden. And when you try to reply to this it will be hidden.
Well Ronnie had so many injuries its still shock he is alive and doing some lifts even today barely standing. Probebly the only bodybuilder who loved more lifting weights than anything else.
Ok, they stopped working out,the pump is gone ,they stopped taking steriods,they stopped eating 8-10 meals a day ,so what do you expect ? To look same? Lmao !!!
u wot m8 Is it though? I've never heard a champion bodybuilder mention anything about what you just said? They freely admit that you have to take steroids etc. They're chasing their dreams. Get on with your own life.
Everyone knows that guys at that level are juicing. No great secret revealed. It looks to me that most are in better shape than the average person that's their age. My question is why do you care to watch a vid like this if you don't understand that. Most all of us abuse something. Hell too many biscuits and gravy is bad for you! They hate us cause they ain't us!
Hey Nick. Hope you didn't think I was being a troll. I didn't quite understand your reply. I wasn't trying to hate on any of these guys. I've used and not used most of my adult life. I'm impressed by all the guys in your vid weather they juice or not. For the most part I think they look good in the now pics.
To be fair Jay is probably one of the only guys on the List who is still living the bodybuilding lifestyle, using gear, training hard, eating good, still grinding. He does look good though. Ronnie idk, I thought he hasn't trained in months because of his recent surgery, didn't think he'd be looking too good these days.
ya jays def still a beast lol , as far as ronnie he had his shirt on when I saw him so it was hard to judge, but holy fuck was he huge LOL, even with a bunch of ~220 guys around him
He had two kidney transplants and could not train for years. A lot of people trolled him after this video and other images were made public, so Flex started training again, which caused complications with his blood pressure and now he's lost part of his leg. Sad.
@@dantheman4838 sad to hear that Flex was one my favorites when I started working out when I was in the Navy, I liked Flex,and even though they didn't compete I liked the Barbarians👍💪😎🏋️♂️
I assume you don't like GMOs and vitamin supplements? Because they aren't "natural" Mate Mercury is very natural but also deadly so natural doesn't make it good
@@MFper4mance Yes but you can take some supplements that make your muscles take it a bit more water which i believe make them bigger or stronger or some shit.
ObjectDefiance Steroids are a certain type of molecule. When people say being natural it just means not taking any steroids, taking a multivitamin or creatine or some shit from a gnc isn’t going to make you not natural just because it might make you stronger.
Flex is a little different from the others from what I know. He retried because his liver was giving out... did any of the others retire from health issues?
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I look like a retired bodybuilder and I've been training for 5 years :(
thats actually really good.
that is if you arent on gear.
means you are not taking any roids which is good
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It depend wich one you are looking like.
Jay cutler still looks great despite his downsizing.
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Very sad , when you can't retain your structure then it is a wastage to work so hard and loose everything after-all , very very sad and disappointing !!
Dorian Yates was interviewed by London Real and he said that his testes stopped producing testosterone so he had to compensate by administering artificial testosterone
I believe it
If they're alive and in reasonable health, that should be considered an achievement. A lot of their peers are six feet under well before their time.
I do agree with that
Amen god rest their souls.
Amen ⚠️
Jay still look pretty good
I bet he still does the occasional cycle
@@robbuchheim6478 never stopped I think
Kevin still looks good too, Jay looks like he can still compete
Yea levron to
he is still training with less roids or none idk..
This video should be titled "Unhealthy Substance Abusers Become Healthy Again"
Ronnie Santo Has to be said.
Ronnie Santo hahahah best comment I have EVER seen 😂
Ronnie Santo a jackass simple minded comment. You must be head of your special ed class
Ronnie Santo
What about the ones that look they stopped working out completely and got fat?
OMG people. This video isn't to debate whether or not any of them use roids. They all did, LOTS AND LOTS, as well as HGH... This video is simply to illustrate that fact by showing how deflated they get once off the gear...
Of course, I just think it's hilarious how they get all defensive when somebody brings up the fact that they're on it, saying it's all "genetics and hard work"............bullshit! No doubt it's hard work, but being willing to stick a needle in your ass is the key component
+jscottrockford most will admit use after their career is over. Anyone who admits while "in" the industry as a competitor seeking endorsements will be ruined. They HAVE to lie to keep the $ pouring in.
The supp industry wants all the little Johnnies and Billies and Bradlies out there to think these guys are all natty and that it's actually possible to get this big just using supps and training hard. When the reality is most of the supps these monsters endorse either don't do shit, or aren't even being used at all.
If Phil Health admitted he's on gear right now, do you think Muscle Tech or Flex Magazine whoever else is padding his bank accounts would keep sponsoring him?! HELL NO!
The supp companies know anyone who openly admits to using isn't going to be believed as an endorsement.
Rich Piana is only open and honest about it because he doesn't need the body building industry. He has $ pouring in from other sources and makes $ on his own supp line....
+Bob-A-Lou Anna Maria Excellent point.........all these guys are sponsored by half a dozen companies trying to sell you their shitty "pre-workout super blaster mass exploder" and a bunch of other garbage that doesn't do anything
+jscottrockford absolutely. I poured dozens of lbs of protein powder down my gullet over a decade and a half with zero real results. Then watched a friend who had done the same thing with same results, switch to a cycle of steroids and no supplements and put on 30lbs of muscle mass in about 8 weeks... Right then I stopped buying all supplements (except pre work out because I do have more energy on those)
But BCAA's, protein, this that and the other, all garbage waste of time. Now if you're on steroids and growth hormone, those supplements may actually add to the mix and give you an advantage. But it's just ridiculous how MUCH of these guys physiques are because of the gear...
+jscottrockford I found a study once, I'll post the link if I find it. There were 4 test groups of around 1500 men each.
Group 1 - given placebo (saline) injections and told to maintain usual lifestyle but not work out or exercise.
Group 2 - given steroid injections (not sure which compound) and told to maintain normal lifestyle but not workout or exercise.
Group 3 - given placebo (saline) injections and told to begin or continue a heavy workout regime.
Group 4 - given steroid injections and told to begin or continue a heavy work out regime.
Obviously the group who saw the least (or zero) change were the ones given the placebo injections and did not work out.
And of course the group given steroids who did work out saw the biggest change by adding muscle mass as well as losing body fat.
But, the surprising (not to me) thing for the researchers was that group 2, the men given the steroids who did not work out, saw a dramatic change. In fact ...
Dave Palumbo looks like he's been hanging out in a gay bar in San Francisco
+mrwideboy wouldn't surprise me if he has lol
he's the proprietor
wouldn't surprise me lol
Nick's Strength and Power I'm not saying there's anything wrong with being gay, its just he does look quite gay in that photo
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Why most of them look younger after they retired ?
Probably because they aren't that dark out of stage and they are much leaner than normally when on stage too. The subtances could also play a role in it.
Because during training water level very low after retirement they got freshness more liquid in body
Cause drugs
Exercise is good for you
Quitting chemicals it's a brilliant choice !!!
1:31 Mr. NoTriceps
+bloodcorer it's because his biceps were so damn huge and overpowering lol
bloodcorer lol dead😂😂😂😂
Uncrown Mr. Olympia!
Apart from that he is still quite massive, unlike most of the other guys in the vid. No big difference to the left pic imo
I'm even more inspired to stay natural.
Yeah. I don't like the idea of most of my gains coming out of a bottle.
2 "stupid" comments, i explain: 1) ok, you 2 make maybe body building but.... it' the same if you say i'm football player and compare to... Ronaldo or Messi. Formula one with rally... Ok it's the same name for sport but not the same CATEGORY and taking nothing or just few injection can't give you THOSE results. Stay natty or use few steroids is NOT being Pro Bodybuilder ( Genetic, 5000cal+ or... 1700!!! , perfect diet, best products....) 2) You can take the bottle of what you want, without the 1) AND a very very very Hard training you will obtain zero result compare THOSE bodies! And final, i had the opportunity to see JAY for REAL and see video or be next to him is a HUGE difference 😄😄😄
Most of them still look better than most men their age
uh been taking them for 15 years and everything is fine with me, what are you talking about stupid?
Also full of studies showing zero side effects when done correctly, even better health since low T is a leading cause of many issues in older men. Low T in women is also a issue, our bodies kill themselves.. keeping levels up instead of letting them bottom out is what I would call foward thinking.
Soul Vein its called aging and its normal
Does not have to be, why slowly let your body age, rot and destroy itself when you can slow the process. And in the next 50-100 years start preventing it altogether
Not even close to true, Mitochondria is the cause of aging and the low production of NAD. Until now the only way to slow this down was caloric restriction and working out. They have now doubled the life in mice by increasing production of NAD. Body cutting back HGH and TEST has nothing to do with it trying to "prevent cancer" lol. Actually low T is one of the leading causes of cancer in men, proven fact. People on test replacment/hgh are living wayyy longer than 65, test replacement especially now is very much a good thing. Pesticides etc are wrecking our levels, we now have 18yr old men with test levels of 40 yr old men and our highest sperm counts now are lower than what sperm banks would even accept 20 years ago. So no, test has nothing at all to to with Mitochondria or NAD, and the body reducing it is one of the many ways it kills itself.. not it trying to save its self from cancer, especially since cancer is just now becoming so widespread.
2:17 what I think I look like in a mirror vs what I really look like..
David Grenalda do you are African right?
@@KingRailZ LMAO
NICE GRAMMAR HAHAHAHA LOL
"Do you are african"
Hahahaha i just cant 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Timmy Boss nah bro, I’m not African
KINGRaiLZ ur dumb bro
mexican savior15 yo don’t call me dumb
3:21 looks younger now 40 to 25😁
Exactly
In the black tshirt he literally looks like the son of the other guy lol
@@johnatonstephen8186 yep
Flex Wheeler, dude, very disappointed the way you look . At least do something to keep in shape
He is in shape now. That photo i think was taken when he was having kidney complications but now he is in very good shape.
Ok thanks for the update
Nelly C. He went from beast to Mr potato head
he has kydney surgery, now he is in better shape
couldn't agree with you more neeli Flex wheeler is the worst out of all of them f****** gross Coleman and Cutler probably are the best and is that gay dude holding it to little dogs and see what they call Palumbo's stomach from this guy
*When bodybuilders stop using juice.. ✅😛*
Obviously a good chunk of them stopped lifting too. It's not just the juice
@@erinbutler1255 lol 🤣🤣🤣 ronnie doesnt stop but lost his muscle
You can say again its not just juice ?
@@loooooooooool58 ronnie is barely mobile and you think he even attempts to do the same exercises he use to? What a joke 🤣
@@erinbutler1255 loooool barely mobile and ? look video of him after stop roids*
Not now, but before this operations, it s logic, idiot
Well, as one retired competitive bodybuilder told me, you just get tired of having to eat all that food to maintain your mass. When you figure that you have gotten about as big as you are ever going to get or if you are a powerlifter about as strong as you are ever going to get, there is no great incentive to keep up all that intensive training.
When bodybuilder stop using streoids
basically
That should be the real name of this video.
Most of them never took steroids
ady nails they look so natural u cant see dumb ass
ady nails lolol its is imagine im srs
Some of them are still ripped as fuck
ronnie is really really shredded but he also had one of the best metabolisme :3
Bastian thoning what is the 3 for?
its a smiley :3
Bastian thoning ohhh!!! Haha... pfff duh! Yea metabolism helps a lot in muscular tonage
+Sophia Kopasakis kinda
Well duh they are retired and its a ton of work to keep all that muscle. First time in years they can whipe their own ass.
+Mason Feary lmao
This is actually mind blowing. Like, I assumed these guys lose some of the size once they stop juicing... but some of these are just crazy declines in physique. Amazing content as usual, Nick.
must have stopped the protein powder hey kids? hahah what a joke.
Corz Illa not enough bcaa
That's what happens when you come off steroids go back to been normal
But they look a lot more normal now and less freakish. This is how closer to how they would look like if they were never on the juice. It's a huge difference.
+nugent milicent someone got butthurt Hahaha growup
This doesn't only happen cuz of roids lmao. Change in diet and training makes the body consume more muscle in one case, and build up fat in some other cases(depending on diet and training ofc). Note: I am not saying they didn't do roids but I'm saying it's not just the roids in question here ;).
Whitout the steroids they are nothing. Here in Belgium a tv reporter started training for 6 moths to compete the national championchip. He trained hard, good diet an vitamines, no dope at all, he finished 8 out of 12. After a half year they called him to say he endend second because 9 of them where caught using steriods hahaahahaaa
+passie29 cool, is there a video of this?
damn. never thought i'd see the day where i look better than kevin leverone or flex wheeler
if you didnt know.. kevin is back and will compete in mr olympia 2016..
azzorzer that's awesome, i hope he wins...now i gotta get juiced up if i wanna kick his azz
Owen Daniels xD I hope so too. Doubt he will tho.
azzorzer idk about that. the dude is 51
he will place last
Anybody else think jay cutler looked better when he retired
+Cam Bolten better is a relative term bro
Nick's Strength and Power Did you mean to say subjective?
he looks happier
at least he is able to put his shoes on without help
Cam Bolten he had too much muscle
I pick things up, I put them... Oh shit, my kidneys just failed!
Tyrone Williams that's from steroid use which nearly all body builders take now a days
High protein consumption leads to kidney failure too.
well i guess this is rather rare tho. most get kidney problems from drugs, also for the kidney to suffer from protein, they will have to take too much. which wouldnt even help anymore building muscle, they only would start getting fat
soppoi123 not true, my wife's kidneys are fine
the only thing that can't be transformed to fat is protein
Lewvrone's physique post retirement is the best proof of the extreme effect performance enhancing substances have on the human body.
"Hard work and dedication" and yada yada yda, Levrone was one of the most gifted bodfybuilders and when he went off the juice he ended up looking plain ordinary.
Mind boggling.
Steroids don't just massively increase your gains, they also allow you to train longer and harder, as well as to recover much faster between workouts. As a consequence, you are physically able to train so much more and not burn your muscles. Steroids also have your metabolism in over-drive, meaning you 're hungry and want to eat constantly, which is great for building muscle, so long as you eat the right stuff.
When you get off steroids, all these start to demenish exponentially, so you end up not being physically or mentally able to train as long and hard and eat as much, so they naturally shrink considerably over time. From a scientific standpoint, steroids can do so much good to people who are suffer from fatigue, stress, weight issues (either over or under-weight), muscle waste for the over 60s.
The medical applications for everyday betterment of life are so vast it's immoral that most societies refuse to legalise them because some people choose to use them for bodybuilding, a choice they make that only effects them and their health. It's exactly like food. It wouldn't be fair to ban pizzas, ice-cream etc because some people choose to eat to such a degree that it makes them unhealthy.
Just let people be able to go to private doctors and get a proper nutritional and steroid treatment plan based on their needs and society as a whole will be mch healtheir, physically and emotionally.
John Smith one of the best comments on steroids ever read.i salute
Thank you Markus. I tried a cycle of oral D-Bol tablets when I was 25 after 6 years of training naturally and having reached about 90% of my natural peak in terms of muscle mass and size. With D-bol I was able to train harder and longer and gladly eat enough to make the breakthrough I had been trying so hard for, for over 2 years.
I made such great gains in 6 weeks it was incredible. But when I went off cycle, I gradually ended up losing almost the entirety of my newly gained muscle and was left with a slightly higher bodyfat %. I knew then I naturally wasn't able to maintain a physique post cycle unless I cycled on and off pretty much all year round.
Given the legal and social issues facing steroids and those who use them, I decided my career wasn't worth risking over it, so I was forced to make a decision about my body that effected no one else, based on social stigma and scientific ignorance.
It's absolutely disgusting that I can smoke, eat and drink myself to death at everyone else's expense due to the drain my treatments would cost the National Health Service, yet wanting to enjoy life by recreationally taking substances that increase my zest for life and a healthy body are blocked because people today are pushing for overweight, immobile and physically unattractive people to forcibly be accepted as 'beautiful' and those of us who take pride in our bodies are labeled as 'criminals'.
Impressive reading! I have always felt very bad about steroids. Never used them, never even seen them in reality. I have just read about the catastrophical stories of some overusing individuals. I think the natural way is the best (getting all substances into the body strictly through organic food, no laboratory stuff - chemical or genetic) but still, what you have written gave me a more balanced and complete perspective on this topic. Thank you.
jakubkrcma You 'e welcome. I think the greatest problem surrounding steroids is people not engaging in conversation about them. You hear the word and immediately have this knee-jerk reaction to condemn them and criticise users as junkies when the reality is they are a drug just like ibuprofen and paracetamol, abuse them and you will hurt yourself, take them sensibly with proper diet and training and you can achieve your desired physique. If we can allow smoking and alcohol, there exists 0 reasons to not allow steroids for personal use.
Jay cutler was the original Broly
Ryū Ben right!
@Walter White bruh
Ever heard of Greg Kovac?
Walter White go cook meth or something your ignorance isn’t tolerated here
Brock Lesnar was
Cutler looks better after imo
Drai fly searching for this
I have a hard time believing the after photo is anywhere close to natty.
Drai fly my thought also
pkScary you don’t lose all the muscle you’ve made after taking steroids. If you keep training, you can keep a lot of it so he doesn’t need the steroids to be that big anymore
@@vicknelonis3094 he obviously still uses just much smaller amounts
love it when people say "yeah, they take steroids but they work their asses off and none of you could look like them."
Look at these guys off the steroids. Look like average joes!!
Yeah because anyone can be a fucking bodybuilder given the right motivating factors and roids in very little time. You want to see feats that can't be done by anyone? Strength feats cannot be done by average joes and hold world records, it just doesn't happen. This is where the respect is genuinely earned, strongman/powerlifting/weightlifting. Bodybuilding is male pageantry and nothing more.
shut up fatty
buddy I do powerlifting and my best total probably crushes yours based off how delusional you are... any person who has worked out long enough with any kind direction whther it be strength or show knows genetics are the determining factor, not steroids, not work ethic... list is as follows
genetics
food
steroids
hard work
everyone in the youtube comments does powerlifting.
ive always been very curious about the difference between steroids and genetics. if you take a look and see pictures of pro before and after competition you can see that when they have done taking them they look like ordinary people but they always want you to belive they were the most gifted person on the planet and the muscles came cause their genetics and not cause of steroids. bullshit , i give you an example ,if you see pictures of arnold freedrugs in the 80s he looked extremely skiny and arnold is for the majority of fans the most gifted guy in history but nobody realize he starter consuming roids in a very early age.
See anyone who looks non humanly big it's steroids....nobody just says steroids for no reason it's really obvious look how normal they look off steroids
@Brandon Yarckin genetic 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
They stop training the same too it’s not just because they’re off gear
Holy shit! Flex looks totally different. He actually really let himself go.
The doctors had to amputate his legs because of kidney infections. That man wasn't even allowed to get off bed. But now he is in a much better shape.
You have Zero idea of what you are talking about dude.!!!He and a below knee amputation from
Vascular issues and pain nothing to do with his kidney. The kidney was part of his vascular complications but that’s not why he opted to do a BKA. I’m an Orthopedic P.A and I know what I’m
Talking about. Flex was in Vegas where I live and worked when this happened. Stop regurgitating nonsense you
M O R O N!!!
2:03 Damnn!! He really lost all his gains!
Lmao he is still probably top 5-10% most muscle on earth
Compared to normal humans he still looks pretty muscular
@@ok-sj7bx yes but when you stop using steroid you don't become natty, you still keep a higher level that if you were natty all your life
@@theRaw6 that is not true
@@davidreuters8509 it is, make some research, and look some testimony
The after pictures look like actual human beings. Sure I'd love to be 180 of pure muscle but professional bodybuilders look freaky
+Jones Smith lol
180? Are you like 4'11"?
Um..no? I'm not a meathead I want to be good at sports not just looking huge.
Joe Blow natural limit of someone 5"8-5"9 is around 160-165 at 8% body fat if I'm not mistaken give or take a few pounds.
W Benslimane It's depending on frame size. I'm in between 5'8" and 5'9" and my max weight at 8-10% body fat is around 180.
So they go back to looking normal, what would anyone expect lmao
+Dylan Hamm lol
the difference is amazing and someone cares about this people ;)
they are not nobodys which lift ;)
+Boris Ironfist ah yes, I definitely understand what you just said
Dylan Hamm so dont be so negativ dude :P
+Boris Ironfist I was not being negative, just an objective observation lad
they turn all natural, some of them actually look healthy!
They never can be natural again. They have to stay on TRT forever.
They are not natural, the roids damage will stay.
@@PrepaidKreditkarte81 everyone Will eventuelly use Trt for life if they plan on living past the age of 50
@@hrachmovsesjan3122 you are clueless
the kidney failures causes.. water intake are too empty.
Not sure what you mean by that?
maybe that they cut water weight for shows and that's what leads to all the cases of kidney failure.
capcacin 99 No their kidneys are already fucked up from all the steroid intake and the lack of water is the icing on the cake.
John Roberts no the liver gets fucked which affects the kidneys cause they work together to remove toxins from your body
Its almost compeltly from the Diuretics, it borderline puts them in the hospital how low they get for these shows. Some forget to drink water after, eat salty food and go into muscle lock down and must be taken to hospital. High amounts of protein have never been shown to cause kidney issues unless you have kidney issues already, 1-2g of protein per lb of bodyweight is perfectly healthy.
When retiring makes you whiter
THEY USE FAKE TANS and shit. it helps definition
Lizard nah they stopped the black face
yeah cuz they got oil and fake tan on their body lmaoooo
They look like basted thanksgiving turkeys.
They use a tanning spray called bronzing
That definitely wasn't Flex wheeler, they disrespected him on that picture, that wasn't even him.
Yea what was that about, that's a fake picture...
DD Gang8o3 I agree...that look like a whole different dude....they did Flex Wheeler bad on that one
DD Gang8o3 it is flex wheeler. on both pictures
It is Flex... Plus you can see that surgery line that he had for his kidney huh! Used to be my model bodybuilder back on his hey days.
Well if you look at recent videos of him, he's an awesome shape today.
Thanks for telling us which is before and after. 😂
Lololol
Lmao
This right here will really make a man question if it's worth it or not.
you son of bitch
if you build muscles naturally then you claim you don't lose muscles after u quit?
steroids? it's not.
+Nick's Strength and Power that's what I meant. I'd like to see a natty vs juicy version of this vid.
They're probably living much healthier lifestyle's now.
they have too otherwise theyll die lol
Dorian and Jay retired the most gracefully
when hackers decided to play legit way again.
hahahahah
Markus Ruhl - the worst and weirdest arms in bodybuilding. And what in the world happened to Flex Wheeler???
+Anvil Rubicon I liked Ruhl's big oil injected biceps lol they motivated me when I was young and naive about steroids. I wanted arms like Ruhl so bad lol
+Anvil Rubicon flex wheeler looks a little bigger now you can tell he's back on the sauce. He's definitely using synthol on his arms these days
yea his biceps do definitely look terrible
yea his biceps do definitely look terrible
I know right and did you see Yates. Dorian lost all his size.
lol most of them look better now. anyway, it's inevitable to lose strength past certain age
aldown and when you get off steroids...
To your comment on strength, I contest that given proper training and dietary programming, it's not necessarily a foregone conclusion. Look at Jack Lalanne, Joseph Greenstein, Charles Atlas, Alexander Zass, Great Gama and just hosts of competent yoga and martial arts instructors. You wouldn't confuse any of these people as being either weak or unaesthetic in their advanced ages. True, none of them are as big as bodybuilders of today, but consider any of Jack Lalanne's feats at age of 60+ and there is a definite argument to be made that we don't necessarily have to be weak as we age. John E Peterson, someone I failed to name above, is able to perform 3-500 hindu pushups and squats in one set in his 50's. Pump out close grip pullups in sets of 20 and do a nose to the mat bridge, all while keeping very respectable musculature that quite honestly looks like someone in their 20's. This isn't really meant to be an argument, I just wanted to state that there's a big difference between what we as a society equate to strength, and what actual strength denotes. Also, all those people I mentioned trained and thrived in the pre steroid period.
def, there's lots of older dudes much more ripped and strong than lots people in their 20s. But elite level athletes and bodybuilders usually peak performance-wise and strength-wise when younger
Wheeler and Palumbo look like they don't even train at all anymore .
well i guess everyone has different standards of beauty lol
How fruity does palumbo look holding those dogs ha
+J D lmfao
LMAO
J D I know right
J D Will Dave Palumbo please come out of the closet!
Title should be when bodybuilders stop taking huge amounts of steroids
no roids --> human looking.
TTundPP I want don't want be human
Dorian Yates is the only one who is in shape
Thats true but he is nowhere near weighing the massive 300lbs but then again Baseball great Mark McGuire lost his size too.
He's still on roids, no?
mtl blues nope none of them are not now Dorian lost all his size a Mark did too when you stop working out you lose muscle fast.
Check out kevin levrone
Mill Wurray yeah he does
Stop the juice, lose the goose!
Rick James lol funny shit,
well your body gets used to every day life and loses the muscle is does not need
lol
Their muscle was like "finally some long rest"
That's what happens when you cheat your whole life. Back to reality.
Why do it call cheating? Even with anabolic steroids it is a big amount of hard work. They play in a league where everyone knows that they can´t be natural. I think people like Jeff seid are heating much more. They call
themselves natural and getting their money by lying.
Roger Buschmann get tf outa here
mimimi
lol if u don´t put in the testo your female hormone will dominate what is the reason for loosing muscles and gaining fat. Your muscle growth goes hand in hand with the testo in your body. If u put in the juice by syringe your body stops his own production until you stop it. and than it takes some weeks or months until you get on a normal humans level. But i hope you don´t think that you can naturally gain these mass of muscles and i don´t support juice but u have to train very hard anyway to get that big. Or do you think that Arnold or other Mr. Universe and Olympia sit on their couch and watched TV?
I don't know if you saw the same vid that I did, but most of those guys are in their 50' s. All but one or two looked great for their age.
normal guys!
by bye roids
Silversurfer they have be normal again unless they wana die early
amazing the effects of roids and hard train in human body
agreed
Think it is mostly due to GH not steroids. GH gives enormous gains. Although, steroids are ever so often added to the mix but the biggest gains are from somatotropin.
Main negative aspect of anabolic steroids (competition wise) is high water retention not taking into account other negative things though fat and water is easily negated with thyroid hormones and diuretics so it comes down to how much of a walking lab you wanna be and whether or not ones liver and kidneys can take that much punishment not to mention the hormonal and other phisiological disbalances caused by the abuse of peds.
i understand you have reason
+remrk011 well put.. i think to become a bodybuilder you must have incredibly strong organs ablr to withstand a lot
They look healthy now
Ronnie Coleman took his picture in a hospital bed.
Why wasn't "I'm half the man I used to be..." by Stone Temple Pilots the soundtrack?!? Someone dropped the ball on that one.
Markus Ruhl still looks huge!
He is still round about 120kg at 14% body fat.
johnnytuffguy he is also still on roids, as most of the decent looking ones in this vid are. Just no longer on 2g test a week and not on trenbolon.
johnnytuffguy he quit competing, he didn't quit juicing!
....and stupid.
Markus looked like shit when competing AND after retiring. I'm willing to bet he's got some synthol in him too, yuck.
**when bodybuilders become natty again**
@1:19 It's like Captain America's Super Soldier Serum wore off
And he contracted AIDs...
name of music please?
When bodybuilders stop using roids*
2:02 my Eyes goes on the left side - Fuuuucccccckkkkkk😂😂😂
I retired from gym after 2 days where's my picture?
most of them still need steroids because their bodies stop production or minimize production of his own testosterone for life...if you are on testosterone for many years your body wont produce their own testosterone..... but the first thin and the most important is psychology of steroid users...?their confidence is build on how big they look and shock at the end is incredible.... and if you like to lift weights ir is the best to make your own gym in garage and train by yourself and don't look at posers and don't look pictures and videos online.....maybe read good articles about food...buy some proteins and creatine....don't use so high rep range as in the most articles because 12 reps is for steroid users....lift in 6-8 range sometimes for strength 5,3 or even 1rmax ...
+Sašo Saigon decrease in dosage and stack has the same effect as getting off completely when you go from extreme to very low dosages
I train high volume and I’ve been making all kindz of strength gainz I actually plateau lifting 6-12 reps
Sašo Saigon Great advice man!
When I was a teenager, I wanted to get bigger than Dave Palumbo, and now I am... Cause he got tiny.
Hell, they still look better than me lol.
+Florida Corvette Owners not all of em lol
2:13 yoo he lost so much gains what a waste...
2:36 nigga when from chocolate to vanilla
+SHAWN LOUIS lmfao
Shawn Louis dude really why do people always care about color that what you noticed about the guy is he stopped tanning so his skin isn’t dark wow you’re fucking pathetic
3:23 on the right looks like if limp bizkit had a baby with john cena.
Shit that's gay, son.
Cutler looks great.
Flex Wheeler looks terrible.
That flex wheeler one hit hard
Not for the use of making bulk I used to take steroid as therapy to cure skin allergy for about 20 years. I was 14 when my skin was heavily damaged from allergic symptom. I remember I got 100mg to stop the symptom. I got extremely stimulated and confident that could't go to sleep in the nights. Hair and muscles grew and my character changed to the wild one. I was like an angel before the start. I used to be real good in any sports. However I became really tired and weak and allergy started again when steroid level dropped down so I went to the doctor and it repeated again and again. The amount I ate was amazing but I was still lean and ripped because I was still young at that time. However in the age of 30 I became a big guy literally due to heavy work load, lots of drinking and eating with lacks of exercise. Moon face and barrel belly I got. Most of all the I suffered with Cushing syndrome. Bones got weakened and skin got thinner so got stretch marks and blood vessel shown.. I put my best effort to quit for long years. My body condition is not on the peak but I look better now. I have got my handsome face again and skin looks much better now. Thanks God, I have got two lovely children as well. Do not use steroids at any circumstances. To whom suffering with fatal skin allergy I recommend 'Tofacitinib'. Any itchiness stops in 10 seconds.
Keyser Obel A different kind of steroids are being discussed here, not those used to treat autoimmune disorders or asthma attacks, etc.
Keyser Obel I'm glad you were able to transition to a more tolerable therapy for you, though
"Honey, I shrunk the guns..."
Jay Cutler actually looks better now
Anyone know why these guys that lose all the muscle/weight end up avoiding stretch marks? If you go from skinny to real fat you are likely to get them, a lot of these guys dropped what appears to be 100+ pounds
WOW!!!! After seeing that what is the point of working out? Some of those guys didn't look like they had ever been to a gym before in their lives after just a few years of not competing, and they were at one time massive dudes! Why spend the time to get big, spend the money on supplements, and the effort and sacrifice just to see it all disappear without a trace? I guess the moral is to work out for health, not for vanity.
BCB agreed bro
BCB the journey and lifestyle u live as a bodybuilder is beyond imaginable but u cannot get too greedy and thats why u eventually have to get off unless u risk dying early bcos of it.
BCB the moral is to live exactly how you want not caring about what other people like you think rather than be like them and live average lives complaining about others
I'm not complaining about others; but rather am expressing my own opinion that the choices and sacrifices necessary to become massive are not choices and sacrifices that I would make. If someone wants to go down that road they certainly can. If a person wants to do anything with their life that doesn't infringe on someone else I see no problem with it. I work out, eat well, and try to get an aesthetic body; but my goal is for health and longevity. I don't care about the stage personally. If someone else does, that is their prerogative.
BCB so your talking like you dont care about what they do which is good but yet you question why they make the sacrifices they did/do which compeltely contradicts your point. It comes down to a simple question of "was it worth it?" for you it may not be but just because it isnt for you doesnt mean it isnt for them, personally no matter how many people question what they do, the fact is that not everyone can get to their level with drugs or without drugs. I'm only commenting because I am a die hard fan of bodybuilding
Its amazing how significant roads are in this game
When i got out of the Army i was in great shape after training for all the years that i was in. So many people would ask me; dude, what are you taking? i took fried chicken, doughnuts and protein drinks and trained heavy. I won power lifting contests at Ft Riley Ks.Well, after getting my hands on some anadrol 50, within 3 weeks my bench went from 315 for maybe 3 reps to 8 to 10 reps. Its crazy, If you train hard and take gear you will get way more than the 10 percent people talk about but yes there is a down side, Big time!
I think the down side is based in genetics, some of these guys just look like normal aging men, some of the guys look like they were taking party drugs along with the roids
+thomas grim that's why I'll never do them. Because when I cycle off and see all my gains go away I'd probably get depressed and hate my body and go back on them. Which would start an addiction to them.
Plenty do take 'party drugs' when contest time is up to cut up, even on drugs not easy to drop to 3% BF
lots of them partake in recreational drugs as well as steroids. deadly and stupid combo
I banned you so all that time you spent commenting all my videos was wasted they were all automatically hidden. And when you try to reply to this it will be hidden.
This shows you how much of a difference drugs make
Well Ronnie had so many injuries its still shock he is alive and doing some lifts even today barely standing. Probebly the only bodybuilder who loved more lifting weights than anything else.
This video needs to be titled when bodybuilders come off of steroids.....
Flex wheeler took life very seriously after retiring.
He lost a part of his leg.
@@JD37 oh ok then
Ok, they stopped working out,the pump is gone ,they stopped taking steriods,they stopped eating 8-10 meals a day ,so what do you expect ? To look same? Lmao !!!
The point of the video is the visual representation of that process....
u wot m8 Is it though? I've never heard a champion bodybuilder mention anything about what you just said? They freely admit that you have to take steroids etc. They're chasing their dreams. Get on with your own life.
Ronnie looks good even after going through 17 surgery and not taking juice.
Everyone knows that guys at that level are juicing. No great secret revealed. It looks to me that most are in better shape than the average person that's their age. My question is why do you care to watch a vid like this if you don't understand that. Most all of us abuse something. Hell too many biscuits and gravy is bad for you!
They hate us cause they ain't us!
+John Kempton not everyone knows what goes on in pro bodybuilding
Hey Nick. Hope you didn't think I was being a troll. I didn't quite understand your reply. I wasn't trying to hate on any of these guys. I've used and not used most of my adult life. I'm impressed by all the guys in your vid weather they juice or not. For the most part I think they look good in the now pics.
John Kempton *they hate us cause they anus
jay looks great ( only been a year or 2, and is obv still training, I saw ronnie a couple days ago in toronto and he was massive still lol
To be fair Jay is probably one of the only guys on the List who is still living the bodybuilding lifestyle, using gear, training hard, eating good, still grinding. He does look good though. Ronnie idk, I thought he hasn't trained in months because of his recent surgery, didn't think he'd be looking too good these days.
ya jays def still a beast lol , as far as ronnie he had his shirt on when I saw him so it was hard to judge, but holy fuck was he huge LOL, even with a bunch of ~220 guys around him
jay has no choice but to use gear for life...zero chance he will ever produce natural test ever again
0:58 The one from the Bears right?....
Thanks for sharing. This also depicts the transformation of people before and after COVID. Time to open the gyms.
Roids roids and more roids!
emkplayboy6 No shit, dude, that's not what this is about.
Reeeaaaallyyyyy, I thought they were all natural, not sarcastic at all
emkplayboy6 yet you know nothing about them. Stop getting your education from Nancy grace
guest what christiano ronaldo is also on steroids
When steroids retire😭
lol flex flex wheeler
He had two kidney transplants and could not train for years. A lot of people trolled him after this video and other images were made public, so Flex started training again, which caused complications with his blood pressure and now he's lost part of his leg. Sad.
@@dantheman4838 drugs are bad for ya mkayy
@@dantheman4838 sad to hear that Flex was one my favorites when I started working out when I was in the Navy, I liked Flex,and even though they didn't compete I liked the Barbarians👍💪😎🏋️♂️
He lost a part of his leg. Laugh at that.
These guys are all hyper responders to gear and training and used things most people wouldn’t imagine.💪
stay natural is the best thing u can doo
Natural or not, when you stop working out you lose muscle. Period.
I assume you don't like GMOs and vitamin supplements? Because they aren't "natural" Mate Mercury is very natural but also deadly so natural doesn't make it good
@@objectdefiance4027 that's true but I think he specifically meant "don't take steroids".
@@MFper4mance Yes but you can take some supplements that make your muscles take it a bit more water which i believe make them bigger or stronger or some shit.
ObjectDefiance Steroids are a certain type of molecule. When people say being natural it just means not taking any steroids, taking a multivitamin or creatine or some shit from a gnc isn’t going to make you not natural just because it might make you stronger.
Song?
should be titled,,when bodybuilders go off steroids..its pretty obvious
That picture with the golf shirt doesn’t do Shawn Ray justice...he still looks quite muscular.Great video!!👍💪
Cutler still looks big.
Markus still on the gainz
How do these guys get so much attention when their muscles are fake?
Where tf are there muscles fake? I bet u can't even do one push up so stfu
Flex is a little different from the others from what I know. He retried because his liver was giving out... did any of the others retire from health issues?