Nick, I have to say, I was never interested in body building until I found your channel. The professional and fair manner in which you address many body building topics makes it the best channel in TH-cam by far. Congratulations.
I also agree. Nick's topics are always interesting, his commentary and images are always informative and entertaining. No matter what Nick's personal opinions are he rarely allows them to be known or show in the direction of his material. Great content and a great personality have made this channel the success it is.
I love how for some of these "letting their physique go" just meant that they ended up with the body of someone who is fit and lifts, just without the juice.
Kidney and or liver failure is *not* by any means a common outcome for professional bodybuilders. For those unfortunate enough to have such drastic outcomes, yea I'd say death is one form of retirement. But going bald is reversible and testicular atrophy doesnt even need to happen at all and most likely doesnt with professional bodybuilders. The completely safe drug called HCG, or human chorionic gonadotropin, completely reverses such atrophy as well as maintains fertility while on exogenous testosterone.
Ronnie trained with the intensity and insanity like no one else, while still maintaining a full time job. After one of his many back operations a reporter asked: would u have done anything different if you could turn back time? Ronnie said; I would've done one more rep. In my opinion the best of all time.
. - Coleman used gear... Not Natural, Not Fair... A Fraud. - He lifted so heavy that his back is now fucked to the point that he now uses crutches or a wheelchair to get around. - Was He Talented... Yes. - Was He Gifted... Yes. - Was He Skilled... Yes. - Was He Intelligent... No - He's an idiot. Do all those 'Mr. Olympia' trophies help you out when you need to get up in the middle of the night to go to the bathroom?. They sure as hell don't prop you up to walk do they?.
ofc he wouldn't say that he would change things.. but obviously he would being on a wheelchair for 5 years now and having back&legs operations worth it? lol. he's gonna be disabled for life. he's dumb and a great a example why you should not lift for ego.
CORY BROMWICH I think you and the guy who commented below miss the point of life. He did what he loved up until the point he could no longer do it. Living a mundane life isn’t for everyone. “Live while you’re alive” is something I think we all forget to do. Doing what he loved cost a lot, but I bet he still would do it over again. It’s just like any other goal.. people get hungry for what they want in life, and they may end up broke, dead, ect. pursuing it, but I bet they had a hell of a life.
No these freaks are just disgraceful look at the guys from the golden era like arnold and Frank columbo they still looked strong and healthy after retiring arnold still looks good now and his over 70
The steroid use, for many others, resulted in death. Some featured here such as Flex had to have organ replacements. Natural bodybuilding may result in smaller muscles but is obviously far healthier in the long run. Steroids is a Faustian deal.
No such thing as natural bodybuilding. It's very rare when someone is into competitive bodybuilding and is clean and always was clean. Even on the natural bodybuilding competitions most of the guys take all kinds of shit during their training, they just know when to stop so it doesn't show up when they test them.
its not always the steroids if u ever did top level u would no that is the worse on your body dropping all the fat and then all the water but yes some of these guys really over did the steroids and other drugs t3 hgh igf-lr3 oil shots dnt clen slim do i need to put more down steriods are the least of the dangerous drugs but orals steroids are bad too but injectblies are not bad on health for most unless u do shit loads
No, if they carry on the training they stay big like Cutler but most choose to go a different path...what the fuck is wrong with that? How many boxers, footballers, athletes carry on in their sports when they retire??
Man I laugh when I see the small steroid crew at my gym. Yeah they big and strong but let them stop the roids and they'll look like shit. Props to all you natural bbuilders!
PeterMookSculpture Agreed. Natural guys look terrible and they never keep the tiny gains, if any, that they get either. I see guys working hard for months and even years, but getting nowhere. Truth is I see guys on steroids who don’t make gains. Steroids are not magic. You still have to be on point with diet and workout or you won’t see anything regardless.
I think amateur bodybuilders and most other people should stay off steroids but the appeal of bodybuilding is to see people at the highest possible level.
@@fivebooks8498 I look great and I've never touched that shit. I have people always assumed I use smthn cause I'm swole&cut not as cut as I want to be but for 41yrs old and still do sets of 315×7 I'm fine with that. Fuk steroids
8:28 In my eyes that is the perfect body. Strong, natural looking and healthy. The bodies you see on stage are soooooo bad for health it can't possibly be called health and fitness.
Great video man. Yeah Jay looks and seems overall just better now than he ever did. Love his channel. His business is thriving as well. It's nice seeing him do well. Awesome dude.
Mustafa Mohamed was the owner of a gym where I was training when I was 14 years old. The gym was located in Vienna, Austria and he was a fun guy we called him Musti. Unfortunately he had to close his gym one year ago.
I love these Nick, it’s hard to track them down sometimes. I’m really happy that Kevin Levrone is able to take advantage of social media since he just missed that boat in his prime. Good stuff brother, good stuff.
Add Larry Scott. He left and came back many times looking great. Even old sick with alzheimer he looked hard and muscular. Unlike many people he lived a pretty clean life, especially for a bodybuilder. There is the video of him 16 to 73 years old.
Great video! I would add Lou Ferrigno to the list as someone that still keeps a great physique after all these years of not competing anymore! Look foward to more videos like this!
Hey man, I know I already asked but may you please make a video on whether having a big ribcage is good or bad for bodybuilding? And what do you think of ribcage expansion? Thanks man for all the consistent, great content.
Ruiji San , I remember back in the eighties pullovers and something called breathing-squats we’re fairly popular in an effort to expand the rib cage. Guys used to hit their side-chest with their ribs up, to accentuate the overall size, I guess.
You can’t expand your rib cage. Either you have a large rib cage or you don’t. It’s decided by genetics. You can do all the pullovers you want. Won’t make a difference. I would imagine it’s a positive for bodybuilding tho. Look at Arnold. Gives that tapered appearance
ViralGainz nah man you have been misinformed... He has retired and lives either in the states or on some European island....he still owns his gym in bham, his son now runs the joint.......
25 years of bodybuilding. Being a ifbb pro. Right now at age 42 best I have ever felt. Great video by the way. Bodybuilding done right can be of benefit to a man. It has to be done right.
I used to work with Franco Santoriello doing bridge construction in St. Augustine, FL. His story is pretty interesting and might make good content for your channel. Either way, love the channel! You always have compelling content that makes me want to watch. Keep up the great work!
Was 5'11 at 230 in my hey day but never used steroids and ate healthy and now I'm going on 55 and still weigh in at 220, the only reason I lost some weight is due to an injury that sidelined me for a year.
Not a good thing? For whom? The guys that went to the top of the bodybuilding world? The guys that made loads of money with their physiques? Why? Just because they are not in shape anymore now that they're old? Most of them still outearned my (and propably your) ass by a long shot. Will they die sooner? Propably. So what's better, living your dream and suffer later for it or never living your dream at all? It's very subjective what is and isn't a "good thing" and it differs from person to person.
I was pleasantly surprised at your overall tone during the video. It seemed fair and impartial, unlike many other videos where narrators seem to push their own biased agendas. Thanks
Keeps amazing me how the respons to juice differs so much. Some guys who seem to have terrific genetics respond only mildly, whereas some pencilnecks respond like crazy... Seems the effects can be totally independent from the apparent natural potential.
It's really good to hear that about Jay Cutler. I am not much into body building but I knew about him and just wondered what had become of him... A great champion, no doubt.
woho, not only this video is good but also very important, so important that one can make a series on this topic, and it will help us all to not make the mistakes that took out these behemoths. Its like time travel see yourself decline before screwing up and thus take caution.
Seems like Bob Paris (from your The Most Aesthetic Athlete in Bodybuilding History video) should be on this list since he seems to have slimmed down significantly from his competition days and remained fit into his late 50s.
I was a teen in the early 90s and idolized pro bodybuilders at the time. I bought Muscle and Fitness every month and had their pictures plastered all over my bedroom wall as inspiration. At a certain point in my early 20s I lost interest in following pro bodybuilding and stopped and for years never gave much thought about these guys I use to idolize. A few years ago my curiosity got the better of me and I wanted to see what these guys were up to currently and how they looked. I was shocked to find out many of them were dead and many others had serious health issues (e.g. kidney transplant). There is a pretty long list of pro bodybuilders from the 90's and early 2000's who died in their 30's and 40's, some even in their 20's. When I first started reading M&F there would be pretty regular articles claiming that most pro bodybuilders were steroid free and only a few bad apples. They would get offended and defensive when anyone would suggest otherwise. Of course being a naive teen I believed it for several years. What arrogance to print articles that they knew were complete bull shit.
Still love your show. I am 62 and have trained off and on since high school. I started to take a small amount of deca and test about two years ago and get alot of compliments.
my two cents as someone who trained naturally for 22 years, juiced for 5 and then came off. I have noticed that bodybuilders who have a couple decades of natural base before they juice can reactivate their former physique with minimal test cyp. I hadn't touched a weight from 43-53 and was feeling sluggish, low sex drive, etc.. so my doctor checked and it was 131. not good. he put me on 200mg test cyp per week and immediately half my old physique jumped back on me without touching a weight. I attribute this to muscle memory in the presence of sufficient testosterone. I would love to do some moderate training but I await lumbar back surgery and right knee surgery. I would appreciate suggestions of upper body work that won't harm my back further. thanks.
The purpose of weight-lifting is to make your muscles bigger and stronger to make you better than you were in any physical or athletic endeavor. So, what is the purpose of puffy, swollen temporary muscles which don't make you jump higher, run faster, fight better or live longer?
I lifted for 16 years... continuously. From the age of 19-35 yrs old. I stand 6ft and weighed 240 lbs at my biggest. All that work and after my injury in Iraq in 2006, it kind of stayed for 7 years but you truly lose everything you worked for. The good news is, I swell back up rather quick at the age of 50 now.
no point killing yourself unless you absolutely know you can reach the very top of the game. Even then you have to ask if it's worth it and that can be actually quite a difficult call if you're exceptional at what you do
I am glad I just use the words "workout exercise routine" but still do it every day at 75 years old. Walk, bend, stretch every day AND still lift weights 3 times a week with lower weights BUT higher reps. Could lift heavy STILL but NO THANKS to that...no drinking or smoking for years and try to still eat properly...5' 9" tall, 208lbs...KEEP LIFTING AND EXERCISING OUT THERE to all who still love to "LIVE" a little longer in their life.....MERRY CHRISTMAS, HAPPY NEW YEAR for 2020 KIDDIES!!!!
Great topic to cover Nick. I think of all the sports bodybuilding must be one of the hardest to come out of when it's time to retire. All that sacrifice and identifying with your body has to change as you are no longer competing. And as it's at a much younger age than say the average worker who retires after age 60, retirement must be pretty daunting for a bodybuilder too. Some have been successful in marketing supplements, running gyms under their names where I know for so many it must be a struggle. I think Dorian Yates has made one of the most successful, if not most interesting retirements with his focus turning towards meditation, yoga and functional fitness. Thanks for sharing.
I didnt start steroids till i was 47 yrs old. All those yrs of natural bodybuilding , everyone thought i was lying , but now i can say yes i do cycle quality Gear and no i didnt do steroids training at the Mecca from 1988 through 2002 when my friends kept asking what are you on , just clean eating and lots of cardio
It is a mix of several factors. They dont train 4 hours everyday 6 days a week, they dont eat 5-10.000 cal. 24/7. They dont compete anymore so they dont have the same motivation to put all that juice in their bodies, neither the competetive environment to push themselves through insane workouts to stimulate muscle growth. And dont forget the age of their retirement, 35-45 y. Others simply lose the interest. This is not a comfortable job which you can do 50 years straight. All that focus on diet and food and sleep etc. It takes it toll on you!
Great topic, very interesting and a reality check for folks who are pushing themselves and their health. All of those fellas who had to drop out for health reasons are lucky to be able to tell the tale. We all know about the guys who didn't get the opportunity to make changes and live new lives. What's a little shocking to me is the ones who have dropped competitive bodybuilding but also appear to have dropped fitness completely. I guess maybe it speaks to two things; first it goes to show that bodybuilding has nothing to do with health and fitness and second it maybe speaks of the minds of competitive athletes. Are these people so competitive that they have an all or nothing mindset? Can they not workout to simply stay fit and healthy? It's kinda crazy but entirely believable to me because we humans are strange frickin' animals. Terrific video Nick! ...........................PEACE!!
Sorry muscle is muscle there isnt steroid muscle... if you did a biopsy you would only see identical muscle. Steroids just allow you to go past your natural limit if you take enough. But once you stop taking them you will go back to your natural limit based on your hormonal levels. The cases you see where you think they lost all there roid muscle is actually true about anyone that stops working out and eats like shit. Muscle is only lost due to hormone levels or nutrition. Someone under weight or extreme case of muscle atrophy could benefit from steroids the under weight person could be brought up to his healthy weight in muscle mass fast and then be takin off the steroids and he would not lose any of his gains as long as he ate enough.
@@thegriffinsden3383 Gains made on the juice are impossible to keep without it...and no one can keep the juice going all their life unless they want to die early. Naturally gained muscle though less impressive can better stand the test of time. Even if one cant keep 100 percent of gains during the later years...around 70 or 80 percent can definitely be maintained for a lifetime
Are you an idiot! He uses a walker to move around! He is now addicted to vicoden and oxy. He eats pain pills literally all day long and still with the pain medication hes in extreme pain. You think that looks good. Your mind has a distorted view of what looks good and what looks bad. Hes a decreped dying rich man who is 55 years old looks like hes 96.
Its a dangerous business, the very opposite of healath and fitness..
Woot Woot , its the spelling police 👮👮 :D
This is true. Gosh I've been 2 years training at the gym. Sculpting your body is so expensive and soem of the supplements are bad for your health 😴
Idk, I could prolly bench you XD
Bill Ivory well said bro!
Bill Ivory .... Oh no no. Just over propaganda, steroids ain't that bad.
Bodybuilding is no longer a sport, now it’s lets see who can survive all the drug use
i wont consider it a sport
It was never a sport. It's always been a beauty contest.
It’s always been like that though
most sports at the pro level is just who can survive the bigger beating the drugs give your body.
Lol have you even seen their inhuman training and diet??
Nick, I have to say, I was never interested in body building until I found your channel. The professional and fair manner in which you address many body building topics makes it the best channel in TH-cam by far. Congratulations.
I also agree. Nick's topics are always interesting, his commentary and images are always informative and entertaining. No matter what Nick's personal opinions are he rarely allows them to be known or show in the direction of his material. Great content and a great personality have made this channel the success it is.
I love how for some of these "letting their physique go" just meant that they ended up with the body of someone who is fit and lifts, just without the juice.
Those that don't die simply deflate
Adam Demant reminds me of the death of a ‘star’ lol
Probably the best summary
They just take the air-pump out of their ass after the show, and blast off like an uncorked balloon.
15 years ago I used this stuffs...and much work. And now...I have on my back 2 heart attack. Fortunately I'm still here. Guys don't use this stuffs.
I will listen to your advice
Well then either you didn’t correctly dose and were abusing or you just made up a fucking lie
@@ciya5863 ummm.... It's not a vitamin supplement. There is no dosage. The effects of use accumulate over time.
@Dom LS1 yeah it's true
When young they dont understand, after some year they realise .
I would add Lou Ferrigno and his come back in 1992.. He was a monster......
Yea man, for real, he was ridiculous, I totally remember that one!
Good call!
007
Yeh, a big green one.
Made Dorian look small.
@@dereknapier836 fact
@@Jimmy-id5pq Jaimee, we're not talking about your mom... Calm down.
6:16 "at the price of a very high cost"- Nicks Strength and Power 2018
LOLLLLLL
Lmaooooo
At the cost of a very high price
that stuck out for me too. 😅
So basically they retire after kidney/liver failure , going bald , and nuts turning to small raisins.
Kidney and or liver failure is *not* by any means a common outcome for professional bodybuilders. For those unfortunate enough to have such drastic outcomes, yea I'd say death is one form of retirement. But going bald is reversible and testicular atrophy doesnt even need to happen at all and most likely doesnt with professional bodybuilders. The completely safe drug called HCG, or human chorionic gonadotropin, completely reverses such atrophy as well as maintains fertility while on exogenous testosterone.
Haha nuts the size of small raisins and Weiner the size of Vienna sausage when fully erect
then whats the point?
Buff Barnaby hahhaaaa
when they retire, its like the air being let out of a balloon. Pfffffffttttttttt!!!!
What I always thought. Like you stuck them with a needle. More than anything, why I never considered drugs. You end up smaller than a natural.
Ronnie trained with the intensity and insanity like no one else, while still maintaining a full time job. After one of his many back operations a reporter asked: would u have done anything different if you could turn back time? Ronnie said; I would've done one more rep. In my opinion the best of all time.
THE GOAT
@@lu8164 he is an idiot
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- Coleman used gear... Not Natural, Not Fair... A Fraud.
- He lifted so heavy that his back is now fucked to the point that he now uses crutches or a wheelchair to get around.
- Was He Talented... Yes.
- Was He Gifted... Yes.
- Was He Skilled... Yes.
- Was He Intelligent... No - He's an idiot.
Do all those 'Mr. Olympia' trophies help you out when you need to get up in the middle of the night to go to the bathroom?.
They sure as hell don't prop you up to walk do they?.
ofc he wouldn't say that he would change things.. but obviously he would being on a wheelchair for 5 years now and having back&legs operations worth it? lol. he's gonna be disabled for life. he's dumb and a great a example why you should not lift for ego.
CORY BROMWICH I think you and the guy who commented below miss the point of life. He did what he loved up until the point he could no longer do it. Living a mundane life isn’t for everyone. “Live while you’re alive” is something I think we all forget to do. Doing what he loved cost a lot, but I bet he still would do it over again. It’s just like any other goal.. people get hungry for what they want in life, and they may end up broke, dead, ect. pursuing it, but I bet they had a hell of a life.
"In prison he wont have access to those types of drugs"
Look hard enough and you can find anything anywhere.
True big drug dealer in Ireland got caught with loads in cell
I think BB is the last thing on his mind in prison
What about Markus Rühl?
He still weights 130kg!
Not for long lol.
Totally not healthy to be over 50 years old and carrying that much weight.
007
@@007stopjockin "007" as in James Bond?
@@007stopjockin He is not over 50 ;)
@@007stopjockin Markus is 46
@@007stopjockin lol says who?
The before/after is so dramatic and so terrifying, that it really underscores how unhealthy and abnormal BB is.
Arkady K. Stay small bitch
Lesson for all of us : our bodies are naturally healthy, don't pollute them with drugs and overeating.
Remind yourself of that if you ever get sick and need to go to the hospital.
@Re nato and money..
Krane you have probably misunderstood what he said...
No these freaks are just disgraceful look at the guys from the golden era like arnold and Frank columbo they still looked strong and healthy after retiring arnold still looks good now and his over 70
The steroid use, for many others, resulted in death. Some featured here such as Flex had to have organ replacements. Natural bodybuilding may result in smaller muscles but is obviously far healthier in the long run. Steroids is a Faustian deal.
Exactly right!
Well, the massive abuse of steroids yes. But the dehydration for the shows is actually one of the biggest factors.
No such thing as natural bodybuilding. It's very rare when someone is into competitive bodybuilding and is clean and always was clean. Even on the natural bodybuilding competitions most of the guys take all kinds of shit during their training, they just know when to stop so it doesn't show up when they test them.
its not always the steroids if u ever did top level u would no that is the worse on your body dropping all the fat and then all the water but yes some of these guys really over did the steroids and other drugs t3 hgh igf-lr3 oil shots dnt clen slim do i need to put more down steriods are the least of the dangerous drugs but orals steroids are bad too but injectblies are not bad on health for most unless u do shit loads
on Flex Wheeler's case, his organ transplant was not the cause of the "juice" use. It was actually genetic issue...
Could Paul Dillet's traps have been a mountain?
Yes, I believe they could. Would that be "Dillet Mountain" or "Trap Mountain" or maybe "Dillet Trap Mountain"?
You mean the title to say “when bodybuilders stop taking steroids...aka...retirement
No, if they carry on the training they stay big like Cutler but most choose to go a different path...what the fuck is wrong with that? How many boxers, footballers, athletes carry on in their sports when they retire??
Maybe their dicks grow back ?
Absolutely true. This is the only sport that can get you a felony conviction.
PeterMookSculpture Cutler is still on testosterone in small doses he would never be able to produce testosterone naturally
Jay Cutler the best ever, he ended his career and stayed big
jay cutler. and all the old school body builders who lived longed after retiring
He just keeps using exegenous hormones, whereas others just get of everything and stay clean.
He was smart, he only trained with weights he could handle safely...
Plus he looks healthy too
I met him earlier this year in FIBO Germany, he still looks very impressive
Also, he's one of the coolest dudes I've met, he really is inspirational
Didnt finish the video but i got the point: workout + drugs = temporarily succes then your life went in the drain.....got it
After they made millions they retired from the sport and have a great life...Remain a bitter little pencil neck...got it
Charlie Arms went pro at 60 years old after YEARS of drug use
@@MrJKS247 who hurt ya buddy
Man I laugh when I see the small steroid crew at my gym. Yeah they big and strong but let them stop the roids and they'll look like shit. Props to all you natural bbuilders!
All natural bodybuilders look like shit! And when they stop lifting their muscles go away as well...but you already know that but fuck the truth eh!
For reals... Want to see what REAL strength is? Watch Official Strongman, on TH-cam. Those guys are hell-a strong. And women too...
PeterMookSculpture
Agreed. Natural guys look terrible and they never keep the tiny gains, if any, that they get either. I see guys working hard for months and even years, but getting nowhere. Truth is I see guys on steroids who don’t make gains. Steroids are not magic. You still have to be on point with diet and workout or you won’t see anything regardless.
I think amateur bodybuilders and most other people should stay off steroids but the appeal of bodybuilding is to see people at the highest possible level.
@@fivebooks8498 I look great and I've never touched that shit. I have people always assumed I use smthn cause I'm swole&cut not as cut as I want to be but for 41yrs old and still do sets of 315×7 I'm fine with that. Fuk steroids
8:28 In my eyes that is the perfect body. Strong, natural looking and healthy. The bodies you see on stage are soooooo bad for health it can't possibly be called health and fitness.
They steal bracelets
could phil heaths thievery been a bodybuilder?
good luck with legal
adegiare Well done. Sometimes the period is too much. Nice touch
Loool too much 🤣🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂
Lmao
Bob Paris, there is an incredible “before and after”. He had such a beautiful symmetrical physique .
Me: I want to do steroids
Me after watching this video: nevermind.
Nick Bradshaw as if u gonna get that big just like that once u start roids!stop talking douche.
Nick Bradshaw never do steroids... never....
Either way u wont stay buff all ur life
its fine if you drink water and take small doses lol
Me it's 2 late😒 wish I hadn't
Add Lee Haney; he has maintained a great ATHLETIC LOOKING physique for almost 3 decades. Yates.......
Would like to see pictures of Lee nowadays because he he's totalee awesome
Great video man. Yeah Jay looks and seems overall just better now than he ever did. Love his channel. His business is thriving as well. It's nice seeing him do well. Awesome dude.
Mustafa Mohamed was the owner of a gym where I was training when I was 14 years old. The gym was located in Vienna, Austria and he was a fun guy we called him Musti. Unfortunately he had to close his gym one year ago.
I love these Nick, it’s hard to track them down sometimes. I’m really happy that Kevin Levrone is able to take advantage of social media since he just missed that boat in his prime. Good stuff brother, good stuff.
Great narrative, I always wondered what happened with most of them. Thank you for your research & insight.
Your content is phenomenal! You have really found your niche within this community!
i think it is awesome that you are telling about the health risks that are associated with bodybuilding... keep up the good work
Could Phil Heath have been a *retired bodybuilder* ?
KarmaInTheWater I hope he can
Nah Phil Heath will carry on bodybuilding as long as there's bracelets to steal
Nice one Nick. Always interesting to see these transformations and reformations.
I would add Lee Priest with his transformation of all the tattoos!
The ones on his face suck
Striods
Add Larry Scott. He left and came back many times looking great. Even old sick with alzheimer he looked hard and muscular. Unlike many people he lived a pretty clean life, especially for a bodybuilder. There is the video of him 16 to 73 years old.
Larry Scott, Sergio Oliva and Arnold kept great physiques long after their careers.
Great video! I would add Lou Ferrigno to the list as someone that still keeps a great physique after all these years of not competing anymore! Look foward to more videos like this!
Nicks Casting and Couch 🛋
Ronnie still works out everyday! Did you watch his documentary on Netflix??
I've seen some of his videos on TH-cam. The dude is still a beast with an amazing attitude.
Yes I feel for him in all that pain
Hey man, I know I already asked but may you please make a video on whether having a big ribcage is good or bad for bodybuilding? And what do you think of ribcage expansion?
Thanks man for all the consistent, great content.
Look as Wesley Vissers' huge rib cage. Aesthetic af.
What
Ruiji San , I remember back in the eighties pullovers and something called breathing-squats we’re fairly popular in an effort to expand the rib cage. Guys used to hit their side-chest with their ribs up, to accentuate the overall size, I guess.
@@jaya.2424 You're right, I can remember doing those exercises for that exact reason.
You can’t expand your rib cage. Either you have a large rib cage or you don’t. It’s decided by genetics. You can do all the pullovers you want. Won’t make a difference. I would imagine it’s a positive for bodybuilding tho. Look at Arnold. Gives that tapered appearance
jay is so underated
Hope y'all are having a great weekend!
Mike Matarazzo, RIP. When he had his heart issue, pics of him all slimmed down really was an eye-opener.
Dorian Yates became a Yoga instructor
ViralGainz ...and a psychonaute, I recently watched a video where he goes over his experience with ayahuasca...from gear to psychedelics!
ViralGainz nah man you have been misinformed... He has retired and lives either in the states or on some European island....he still owns his gym in bham, his son now runs the joint.......
Yes !!!
@@TheKing-tl8si yeah i think that live in Marbella Andalusia Spain.
Yeh he's in Spain, doing cycling, some yoga and more "functional" exercises for health - you can hear it from Joe Rogan podcast
25 years of bodybuilding. Being a ifbb pro. Right now at age 42 best I have ever felt. Great video by the way. Bodybuilding done right can be of benefit to a man. It has to be done right.
Great video, it goes to show you that natural bodybuilding is healthier And you can keep your physique for almost whole life.
foton77 agree but at least naturally you don’t have keep poisoning your body to keep it, you just have keep healthy life style. Most people anyway
@foton77 They don't keep 90% of their gains.
foton77 that’s the thing natural lifting keeps you living healthy and longer, I wouldn’t trade that for a short time of fame
PermanentHigh I agree that’s why to me steroids don’t make sense, bodybuilding should be a healthy sport not an unhealthy one
If your clean, you shouldn't be doing the training routines of a pro bodybuilder.
I used to work with Franco Santoriello doing bridge construction in St. Augustine, FL. His story is pretty interesting and might make good content for your channel. Either way, love the channel! You always have compelling content that makes me want to watch. Keep up the great work!
What about yates? He has dialed down his physique for the life he leads now and is still in good shape for his age.
Was 5'11 at 230 in my hey day but never used steroids and ate healthy and now I'm going on 55 and still weigh in at 220, the only reason I lost some weight is due to an injury that sidelined me for a year.
*When they stop taking extra vitamins
Mike Christian, Vince Tailor, Johnny Citrone, Rory, Mike Francois, Samir Benaut, list keeps growing
Maybe drugs and fake physiques (achievable only through drugs) are just not a good thing.
Crazy idea, I know....
Not a good thing? For whom? The guys that went to the top of the bodybuilding world? The guys that made loads of money with their physiques? Why? Just because they are not in shape anymore now that they're old? Most of them still outearned my (and propably your) ass by a long shot. Will they die sooner? Propably. So what's better, living your dream and suffer later for it or never living your dream at all?
It's very subjective what is and isn't a "good thing" and it differs from person to person.
I was pleasantly surprised at your overall tone during the video. It seemed fair and impartial, unlike many other videos where narrators seem to push their own biased agendas. Thanks
I feel like mustafa is like big ramy. He can get big but not conditioned lol
I had the same thought
Big Ramy could also place higher.
Body building is a lifestyle, maintenance forever. You need to be disciplined
Short time gains at the expense of long term consequences
*What Happens When Bodybuilders Retire?*
their balls grow back
they might not actually. misusing steroids for a long time can cause body to stop producing testosterone and might never go back to normal.
Adriana Kuzmikova ya pretty much one hundred percent will be on TRT for the rest of their life
Keeps amazing me how the respons to juice differs so much. Some guys who seem to have terrific genetics respond only mildly, whereas some pencilnecks respond like crazy...
Seems the effects can be totally independent from the apparent natural potential.
not one of them ever look like they were buffed,,,after roids,,,,i have yet to see one that have natural big frame
Lightbringer brock lesnar takes roids lmao stop being ignorant
Paul Dillett has a big frame.
Dave Draper
He still looks amazing in his 70's
Another great analysis of greatness achieved..so true about Cutler.. he's definitely a class act. Thank you 👍👍
Me: I want to do steroids
Me after watching this video: no that's right, I want to live past 30.
Never take your health for granted, I know what it is.
You always say it will not happen to me, but I wish I could go back before I started.
Jay cutler at 10:08 is the greatest bodybuilding picture of all time
jay cutler's a nice soft spoken guy in person...we bumped into him once a few yrs back
im only watching to see who gets the WWE contract!
The retirement gets the contract lol
@@ssadiq96 what a disappointment
Haha. I’ve already read it. Retirement got the contract
It's really good to hear that about Jay Cutler. I am not much into body building but I knew about him and just wondered what had become of him... A great champion, no doubt.
Missing the Black Prince Robbie Robinson in his 70 s and still looks good !
Amen, and Albert Beckles too. Ageless people.
You can say that again. 72 and lifting like a guy in his 20's. th-cam.com/video/sNG5xbF_9wQ/w-d-xo.html
For the amount of content you put out, your vids are consistently good
I feel so sad for Ronnie he's a really good person, humble and always stay positive. God bless him
And also Jay!!
woho, not only this video is good but also very important, so important that one can make a series on this topic, and it will help us all to not make the mistakes that took out these behemoths. Its like time travel see yourself decline before screwing up and thus take caution.
10 mins ago i was big as Arnold but then i woke up
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Lol stop
I don't know why so many idiots praise arnold like a god when there were MANY better and bigger bodybuilders than him...
Seems like Bob Paris (from your The Most Aesthetic Athlete in Bodybuilding History video) should be on this list since he seems to have slimmed down significantly from his competition days and remained fit into his late 50s.
What sort of a name is Creg?
I was a teen in the early 90s and idolized pro bodybuilders at the time. I bought Muscle and Fitness every month and had their pictures plastered all over my bedroom wall as inspiration. At a certain point in my early 20s I lost interest in following pro bodybuilding and stopped and for years never gave much thought about these guys I use to idolize. A few years ago my curiosity got the better of me and I wanted to see what these guys were up to currently and how they looked. I was shocked to find out many of them were dead and many others had serious health issues (e.g. kidney transplant). There is a pretty long list of pro bodybuilders from the 90's and early 2000's who died in their 30's and 40's, some even in their 20's. When I first started reading M&F there would be pretty regular articles claiming that most pro bodybuilders were steroid free and only a few bad apples. They would get offended and defensive when anyone would suggest otherwise. Of course being a naive teen I believed it for several years. What arrogance to print articles that they knew were complete bull shit.
Could a dad bod have been a bodybuilder?
Still love your show. I am 62 and have trained off and on since high school. I started to take a small amount of deca and test about two years ago and get alot of compliments.
Nick when are you gonna make a comeback...?
my two cents as someone who trained naturally for 22 years, juiced for 5 and then came off. I have noticed that bodybuilders who have a couple decades of natural base before they juice can reactivate their former physique with minimal test cyp. I hadn't touched a weight from 43-53 and was feeling sluggish, low sex drive, etc.. so my doctor checked and it was 131. not good. he put me on 200mg test cyp per week and immediately half my old physique jumped back on me without touching a weight. I attribute this to muscle memory in the presence of sufficient testosterone. I would love to do some moderate training but I await lumbar back surgery and right knee surgery. I would appreciate suggestions of upper body work that won't harm my back further. thanks.
Jay is a really smart guy💪💪
The purpose of weight-lifting is to make your muscles bigger and stronger to make you better than you were in any physical or athletic endeavor. So, what is the purpose of puffy, swollen temporary muscles which don't make you jump higher, run faster, fight better or live longer?
"Moderation in all things"
I lifted for 16 years... continuously. From the age of 19-35 yrs old. I stand 6ft and weighed 240 lbs at my biggest. All that work and after my injury in Iraq in 2006, it kind of stayed for 7 years but you truly lose everything you worked for. The good news is, I swell back up rather quick at the age of 50 now.
Before: buffed
After: wearing shirts
no point killing yourself unless you absolutely know you can reach the very top of the game. Even then you have to ask if it's worth it and that can be actually quite a difficult call if you're exceptional at what you do
This video highlights the power and influence of drugs on both the way up and way down.
I am glad I just use the words "workout exercise routine" but still do it every day at 75 years old. Walk, bend, stretch every day AND still lift weights 3 times a week with lower weights BUT higher reps. Could lift heavy STILL but NO THANKS to that...no drinking or smoking for years and try to still eat properly...5' 9" tall, 208lbs...KEEP LIFTING AND EXERCISING OUT THERE to all who still love to "LIVE" a little longer in their life.....MERRY CHRISTMAS, HAPPY NEW YEAR for 2020 KIDDIES!!!!
Didn’t know that bodybuilding is actually a steroid business
Great topic to cover Nick. I think of all the sports bodybuilding must be one of the hardest to come out of when it's time to retire. All that sacrifice and identifying with your body has to change as you are no longer competing. And as it's at a much younger age than say the average worker who retires after age 60, retirement must be pretty daunting for a bodybuilder too. Some have been successful in marketing supplements, running gyms under their names where I know for so many it must be a struggle. I think Dorian Yates has made one of the most successful, if not most interesting retirements with his focus turning towards meditation, yoga and functional fitness. Thanks for sharing.
"At the price of.. uh.. a very high cost." Lmao great video though
Yeah your right..retiring multi-millionaires after reaching the top of a sport they love..poor sods
I didnt start steroids till i was 47 yrs old. All those yrs of natural bodybuilding , everyone thought i was lying , but now i can say yes i do cycle quality Gear and no i didnt do steroids training at the Mecca from 1988 through 2002 when my friends kept asking what are you on , just clean eating and lots of cardio
2:50 "Very *T H I C C*"
It is a mix of several factors. They dont train 4 hours everyday 6 days a week, they dont eat 5-10.000 cal. 24/7. They dont compete anymore so they dont have the same motivation to put all that juice in their bodies, neither the competetive environment to push themselves through insane workouts to stimulate muscle growth.
And dont forget the age of their retirement, 35-45 y.
Others simply lose the interest.
This is not a comfortable job which you can do 50 years straight.
All that focus on diet and food and sleep etc. It takes it toll on you!
It’s just to many drugs and half the guys don’t even place wen they compete....
Great topic, very interesting and a reality check for folks who are pushing themselves and their health. All of those fellas who had to drop out for health reasons are lucky to be able to tell the tale. We all know about the guys who didn't get the opportunity to make changes and live new lives. What's a little shocking to me is the ones who have dropped competitive bodybuilding but also appear to have dropped fitness completely. I guess maybe it speaks to two things; first it goes to show that bodybuilding has nothing to do with health and fitness and second it maybe speaks of the minds of competitive athletes. Are these people so competitive that they have an all or nothing mindset? Can they not workout to simply stay fit and healthy? It's kinda crazy but entirely believable to me because we humans are strange frickin' animals. Terrific video Nick! ...........................PEACE!!
Any bodybuilder who took less gear and more hardwork early in his life, will retain most of his physique. Natural muscle lasts longer. Lifetime.
Sorry muscle is muscle there isnt steroid muscle... if you did a biopsy you would only see identical muscle. Steroids just allow you to go past your natural limit if you take enough. But once you stop taking them you will go back to your natural limit based on your hormonal levels. The cases you see where you think they lost all there roid muscle is actually true about anyone that stops working out and eats like shit. Muscle is only lost due to hormone levels or nutrition. Someone under weight or extreme case of muscle atrophy could benefit from steroids the under weight person could be brought up to his healthy weight in muscle mass fast and then be takin off the steroids and he would not lose any of his gains as long as he ate enough.
Any gains via 'roids would be very quickly lost when coming off the 'roids. There is no keeping the gains.
@@thegriffinsden3383 Gains made on the juice are impossible to keep without it...and no one can keep the juice going all their life unless they want to die early. Naturally gained muscle though less impressive can better stand the test of time. Even if one cant keep 100 percent of gains during the later years...around 70 or 80 percent can definitely be maintained for a lifetime
Not for everyone. I don’t take gear but lose my mass muscles with 3 months if I don’t workout at all. Depends on genetics as well I guess
@@zakbarakat6767 thats true..if you lifted /were athletic in your youth you will maintain more muscle
Jay Cutler is the best example of a retired, successful bodybuilder.
Arnold Schwarzenegger did what after his career in bodybuilding ?!
Did you say Ronnie stil has a “decent” physique? Are you yoking. Even now he looks better then 99% of the population
he said he cant even walk anymore what are you talking about?
Wat u actually mean
he can't even walk. so no.
Are you an idiot! He uses a walker to move around! He is now addicted to vicoden and oxy. He eats pain pills literally all day long and still with the pain medication hes in extreme pain. You think that looks good. Your mind has a distorted view of what looks good and what looks bad. Hes a decreped dying rich man who is 55 years old looks like hes 96.
disabled..... better than 99%. he can't even walk. being big but cant walk might be an achievement for you
Merry Christmas Nick! You're an ardent commenter on the sport!