Lots of people like to say that sisters are not weak. Like all the races are equally good and you can play all of them. Well, you certainly CAN play sisters (it's fun), but they ARE weak race. SoB is the weaker side in most (if not all) of the match-ups. There are certain builds you literally should not be able to win against if your opponent is not a potato.
I missed fast t2 build :( Rax, gen, t2 and the first celesta coming out at 2:50. Can be pretty strong. The real bane for many players though is 2x seraphims with armory delete. You usually don't place gen there. The idea is, after delete you have 35 power, which is enough to reinforce 7 models of sera. So you can get almost 2 full squads (which is insane fire power) without necessity to build a generator. I liked you chapter about immolator 😄 Very instructive 👍
Also the start of seraphims build could be optimized a bit. You start a rax and order a 2nd worker. When 2nd worker is 50% done, you order the 1st worker to build an armory while sending 2nd worker to finish the rax. In this way rax and armory are done exactly at the same time.
Great videos for all the build orders, really enjoying listening to you talk through them. I’m not sure how much effort it would take but I think it was commented on another video. Counters for each faction to other particular play styles or opening seems to something lacking from TH-cam. Example, how do Sisters deal with DE jet bike opening? Then maybe showing a gameplay clip the counter in practical setting.
@@jagusart need to ask,if the tanks for sister are so weak in general i have see you need more to relay on get fast tier 3,not at all for the angel, but the battle mecha plus the artillery seems the real spike point of sister, artillery shoot much more and a bit more precise than the one of space marine, battle mecha seems like an bit more powerful version of the battle mecha of space marine, at that point seems more good relay on fast upgrade to tier 3(sorry for names but can't rember them all) ,i say all this starting from what happened in a player vs ai whit a friend, was a 4v4, my friend whit royal guard, and battle sister, Eldar and space marine, as usual space marine go full nuts mod and rush enemy base, we chilled more but still seems like ai prefer attack more weak races, my friend closed in base received no attack, me and Eldar got fast raided, i started playing recently, i need understand difference in ai from dawn of war original and soulstorm, they improved the ai? i don't know, this thing of them rushing base i can't really understand it at all. God sorry message too long
Hey, thanks for the guide! I'm new to dawn of war and RTS' as a whole, do you have any beginners guides, like beginner-beginner, you could point me towards? Obviously, i'd prefer yours if you ever did one. Secondly do you use the standard keybinds, or did you change them? Thanks in advance, you definitely got my sub, i've been enjoying your content so far. :)
Thanks for the comment! Check out my "TOP 5 BEGINNER TIPS" video, that's as beginner-beginner as it gets for my channel. Let me know how it goes for you ☺
@@jagusart Just checked it out, there was some great advice in there, especially the ecenomy part helped me a lot with understanding more of how a usual game goes. Still hating the standard keybinds, looking into how to mod them.
@@MoonPoxX Downloading DoWstats will give you an option to change the default hotkeys to a gridkey system, similar to Age of Empires. I've never used it before but it should be pretty straightforward to integrate.
@@jagusart I've seen that you can change the .lua file for keybinds in the local game files, going to play around with that when i've got the time. Then it's just a matter of playing over and over and memorizing key presses. Thanks for the help. :)
I feel like it is the way it is because the devs were trying their best not to make it a spam-able unit. Which makes sense but boy oh boy is it terrible. I would definitely change the production time for starters. It just takes too long!! And it's cost is just too much. It's astronomically better to go rhinos or even Lightning Fighters. Even Exorcists are cheaper! So yeah, that's probably it. Production time and cheaper cost.
@@jagusartI think immolator is actually a really good unit, especially when getting celestials and playing against tau. Stealth suits don't do too much damage and your celestials can easily wipe them I played 3v3 mortalis against 2 necrons and tau, we had space marines and chaos, i was sisters Got 4 full fire warrior squads, all with shas'ui using immolator, killed his stealth suits My rhinos and immolators were keeping tau inside his base while we 3v2 necrons lol. Won in 15m, tau quit in 12m mark
@@shidonai9977 That makes less sense the *more* I think about it. Looking at the footage of the flamer in-game, it isn't setting the ground on fire, nor is it spewing burning fuel, so there's no reason that would be the case.
Dont be sad just expand the guides to the mod races like the unification mod, pro mod and UA. Thats alot of new content im im sore people would eat it like a hot bagel.. Anyway great guides bro
This is good stuff! Cheeky servitors ought to require a research imo, although that barely helps the necron against wraithtomb... Also, I recommend enabling high def shadows via El furretos shadow mod, which doesn't really consume much more resources and doesn't break multiplayer. Back in the day I was able to run this game with persistent bodies, high def models, persistent scarring, specular textures and the shadow mod with a cheapo Radeon 9500 with no slowdown (at least not before hundreds of orks die), so modern computers ought to be able to handle it! I don't remember if I ever used self illuminated models (because soulstorms shadows look a lot worse than in previous games) or the hdr plugin though. Don't ask me why some mods cause so much slowdown because I don't understand it myself. The base game runs fine with everything enabled and set to max!
Whats the best build against ork? I just started playing sisters and cant even win against hard ai as ork. They just rush me with a lot of melee units and I cant do anything
@Nagastudillo Ah OK, sounds like you need the camera mod, just do a quick Google "Soulstorm camera mod" there are plenty of tutorials to help people fix this issue 😄
Necron Lord with his abilities is just better than a lot of the faction commanders, including SoB. I do believe in T1 tho a Canoness with the Brazier of Holy Fire + Inferno Pistol can give the NL a run for his money.
Lots of people like to say that sisters are not weak. Like all the races are equally good and you can play all of them. Well, you certainly CAN play sisters (it's fun), but they ARE weak race. SoB is the weaker side in most (if not all) of the match-ups. There are certain builds you literally should not be able to win against if your opponent is not a potato.
Good to see you here Elise 😁I agree, there appears to be a fine balance between those who say they're weak and those who don't
I missed fast t2 build :( Rax, gen, t2 and the first celesta coming out at 2:50. Can be pretty strong.
The real bane for many players though is 2x seraphims with armory delete. You usually don't place gen there. The idea is, after delete you have 35 power, which is enough to reinforce 7 models of sera. So you can get almost 2 full squads (which is insane fire power) without necessity to build a generator.
I liked you chapter about immolator 😄 Very instructive 👍
@Elise_UA Ohhh yes how could I forget fast Celestians 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️ And I didn't know that about the fast Seraphims, this is good stuff. Thanks Elise!
Also the start of seraphims build could be optimized a bit. You start a rax and order a 2nd worker. When 2nd worker is 50% done, you order the 1st worker to build an armory while sending 2nd worker to finish the rax. In this way rax and armory are done exactly at the same time.
@@elise_ua6849Where can I see the scores of all the races to understand which are better and which worse?
Great videos for all the build orders, really enjoying listening to you talk through them.
I’m not sure how much effort it would take but I think it was commented on another video.
Counters for each faction to other particular play styles or opening seems to something lacking from TH-cam.
Example, how do Sisters deal with DE jet bike opening?
Then maybe showing a gameplay clip the counter in practical setting.
Really good idea! I'll definitely be doing that at some stage. The videos seem to be helping, so I'mma just keep spitting them out lol.
Sisters don't deal with jetbikes 👍 You make 2 sera and pray that your opponent isn't good. If he does the build properly, you just lose, period.
Yes, sadly this is true 😅
@@jagusart need to ask,if the tanks for sister are so weak in general i have see you need more to relay on get fast tier 3,not at all for the angel, but the battle mecha plus the artillery seems the real spike point of sister, artillery shoot much more and a bit more precise than the one of space marine, battle mecha seems like an bit more powerful version of the battle mecha of space marine, at that point seems more good relay on fast upgrade to tier 3(sorry for names but can't rember them all) ,i say all this starting from what happened in a player vs ai whit a friend, was a 4v4, my friend whit royal guard, and battle sister, Eldar and space marine, as usual space marine go full nuts mod and rush enemy base, we chilled more but still seems like ai prefer attack more weak races, my friend closed in base received no attack, me and Eldar got fast raided, i started playing recently, i need understand difference in ai from dawn of war original and soulstorm, they improved the ai? i don't know, this thing of them rushing base i can't really understand it at all. God sorry message too long
the goat with another video
Hey, thanks for the guide!
I'm new to dawn of war and RTS' as a whole, do you have any beginners guides, like beginner-beginner, you could point me towards? Obviously, i'd prefer yours if you ever did one.
Secondly do you use the standard keybinds, or did you change them?
Thanks in advance, you definitely got my sub, i've been enjoying your content so far. :)
Thanks for the comment! Check out my "TOP 5 BEGINNER TIPS" video, that's as beginner-beginner as it gets for my channel. Let me know how it goes for you ☺
@@jagusart Just checked it out, there was some great advice in there, especially the ecenomy part helped me a lot with understanding more of how a usual game goes.
Still hating the standard keybinds, looking into how to mod them.
@@MoonPoxX Downloading DoWstats will give you an option to change the default hotkeys to a gridkey system, similar to Age of Empires. I've never used it before but it should be pretty straightforward to integrate.
@@jagusart I've seen that you can change the .lua file for keybinds in the local game files, going to play around with that when i've got the time. Then it's just a matter of playing over and over and memorizing key presses. Thanks for the help. :)
@@MoonPoxX Oh yeah you can do that, hope you figure it out!
Such a bummer that the immolator sucks in this game, i love the voice lines of it! How would you change it so it doesnt suck?
I feel like it is the way it is because the devs were trying their best not to make it a spam-able unit. Which makes sense but boy oh boy is it terrible. I would definitely change the production time for starters. It just takes too long!! And it's cost is just too much. It's astronomically better to go rhinos or even Lightning Fighters. Even Exorcists are cheaper! So yeah, that's probably it. Production time and cheaper cost.
@@jagusartI think immolator is actually a really good unit, especially when getting celestials and playing against tau.
Stealth suits don't do too much damage and your celestials can easily wipe them
I played 3v3 mortalis against 2 necrons and tau, we had space marines and chaos, i was sisters
Got 4 full fire warrior squads, all with shas'ui using immolator, killed his stealth suits
My rhinos and immolators were keeping tau inside his base while we 3v2 necrons lol. Won in 15m, tau quit in 12m mark
19:25 I can't imagine it's hard to hit your target with a flamethrower, even while on the move, given that it's a constant stream of fire
Touche 🤔
@@jagusart flambeau*
If you think about it, if you started running with a flamethrower, you'd set yourself on fire.
@@shidonai9977 That makes less sense the *more* I think about it.
Looking at the footage of the flamer in-game, it isn't setting the ground on fire, nor is it spewing burning fuel, so there's no reason that would be the case.
Dont be sad just expand the guides to the mod races like the unification mod, pro mod and UA. Thats alot of new content im im sore people would eat it like a hot bagel..
Anyway great guides bro
This is good stuff!
Cheeky servitors ought to require a research imo, although that barely helps the necron against wraithtomb...
Also, I recommend enabling high def shadows via El furretos shadow mod, which doesn't really consume much more resources and doesn't break multiplayer. Back in the day I was able to run this game with persistent bodies, high def models, persistent scarring, specular textures and the shadow mod with a cheapo Radeon 9500 with no slowdown (at least not before hundreds of orks die), so modern computers ought to be able to handle it! I don't remember if I ever used self illuminated models (because soulstorms shadows look a lot worse than in previous games) or the hdr plugin though.
Don't ask me why some mods cause so much slowdown because I don't understand it myself. The base game runs fine with everything enabled and set to max!
Whats the best build against ork? I just started playing sisters and cant even win against hard ai as ork. They just rush me with a lot of melee units and I cant do anything
try seraphism rush
your game looks way different than mine. are you playing on steam?
Indeed I am
@@jagusartwhy does it look so different?
@@Nagastudillo I don't know. What does yours look like?
@@jagusart It looks very zoomed in even with 1920x1080 resolution and I can barely read cause the words are too small
@Nagastudillo Ah OK, sounds like you need the camera mod, just do a quick Google "Soulstorm camera mod" there are plenty of tutorials to help people fix this issue 😄
Cannoness better than Necron Lord?
Necron Lord with his abilities is just better than a lot of the faction commanders, including SoB. I do believe in T1 tho a Canoness with the Brazier of Holy Fire + Inferno Pistol can give the NL a run for his money.
Necron lord with lightning field, phylactery and phase shift easily beats any commander in a 1v1 even force commander.
darck eldar next? You mean the helion spam? x)
Can't forget Reaver Jetbike spam too!
Why not just use grid keys?
Which is the command to destroy an owned building?
Delete key on keyboard
For Immolator, just... no... haha LOL
Your standard buildorder has canoness and 1 squad? Thats not a proper buildorder, as you see you almost lost vs ai 😂 its hard to survive with that t1