maybe you guys could talk about the differences that make a feminine face either hot, pretty, or cute. idk if you guys have heard the saying all women fit under one of those categories but i feel like it would b an interesting topic. one person i can think of who fits all 3 is ana de armas, but maybe her "hotness" is more because of the way she presents herself. would love to know ur thoughts.
I genuinely think there are LOT of women who can be all three at different times, depending on how they dress/do their makeup. It takes a lot of work, but while I'm generally "cute" with little to no makeup, I can be "pretty" with a little more makeup, and if I really push it and wear the right outfit, I /can/ be "hot". I think a lot of women have this capability.
Fixing my slouching and bad posture definitely helped make my jaw line show how it should. Thought it was bad, but I just needed to get my health in order and stand up straight properly. The company I work for literally asked me to be the face of their company and I modelled for their website and advertising, one shot specifically being of my side profile. Can't slouch my potential away.
so fascinating. my jawline is somewhat strong but it does appear weak at times, likely due to facial fat and feminine features but it does appear stronger in a front profile as opposed to a side profile.
I would also like to mention I have noticed that the angular jaw as a sign of attractiveness is more prevalent in USA. There are countries that think a rounder face on women is more cute and feminine.
Marilyn Monroe, Elizabeth Taylor, Aishwarya Rai…all 3 considered ‘ideal beauties’ by Western standards and none have chiselled or angular jawlines. I don’t think it’s a sign of attractiveness on women anywhere on earth, atleast not by itself, but it is a desirable trait for super models and fashion models where androgynous faces and body shapes are sought after.
eyebrow height and shapes is a good topic too. I have low brow and hate it (as an asian with round eyes) but others say it's nice. I find high arched brow really beautiful.
Everyone wants what they can’t have! I have high, arched brows but have always desired the lowered shape because of how it shapes the eyes, it makes you look less surprised and innocent!
I think lower set, straight-ish brows on women look beautiful on faces with small or rounded ‘girlish’ facial features (like we see in some Asian female celebs), and high arched brows more beautiful on women with more lush ‘womanly’ features (like Marilyn Monroe and Sofia Loren for eg).
the higher the gonial angle the less sharp it looks, right? how do most of them have sharp jaws? is jaw augmentation (fillers) most likely they got done? south korea is no stranger to plastic surgery
can you explain exactly what makes some women like angelina jolie and margot Robbie pull off a square jaw whereas some women will look comical and masculine w it
I think it's has a lot to do with the other features combined with the square jaw. Say you had a square jaw, and your other features are also quite masculine like a strong brow bone, thick dark eyebrows, wide nose etc., that's going to give you an overall masculine look. But if you had a square jaw combined with more feminine features like thinner brows, wide eyes etc., it's going to make you look more feminine just with an interesting jaw shape like Angelina Jolie or Margot Robbie
@@jazbean but some women can have attractive features and still a square jaw takes away from their beauty whereas for some it adds to it. I want to know the reason for that bc I have "good " forward growth with strong square jaw and cheekbones but feel like it can take away from my looks haha
@@shivi3132 Yeah I get what you mean. I guess it's mostly to do with overall facial harmony, but I'm not sure which other anatomical traits can improve facial attractiveness because there must be more to it than masculine/feminine features. I'm no expert though, lol. Maybe look for more videos on the topic.
The only odd faces I have seen which I am assuming you are talking about , thoes that giveaway a very masculine and not attractive look, are the ones who go under the knife to do such drastic measures. But women who have it naturally look remarkable! Their faces always have harmony and feminine delicacy. Even though Margot and Angelina had cosmetic surgery, still both started with very sharp and feminine features. Also helps to have good doctors that good harmonize the changes to the whole face. Thats why it's important to know your face intimately. I would even go further and suggest to you to check out David Kibbe's body classification system. Where he mentions how body types can affect your overall appearance, including your face structure.
Yeah this serie is a lot easier to follow than back when i started watching. Its fun to refresh my knowledge tho and honestly these are very good videos
Id love to see a video relating orthodontics to facial shape, how much braces can do for your facial aesthetics. I've had braces for a year now and the changes in my face shape is so apparent already it's crazy, yet I'm nowhere close to finishing my treatment
She is the most beautiful face of all together with Adriana Lima, Monica even in her more ages, still put most girls ( including me lol ) under her foot.
Can you do a video on forehead sloping and how relevant it is for men's attractiveness? There are barely any men popular for being good looking that do not have high forehead sloping.
Forehead inclination is a dimorphic trait, so it does contribute heavily to looking more masculine. It also helps to present more forward facing dental features.
@@joe-ke7pu Yeah I know, I'm a man with a decently masculine face (imo) but very little forehead sloping, and I guess I wanted to know how relevant it is.
Hey qoves, i don't know if you are a gamer but the elden ring's character creation is quite interesting with the options given to the player to modify face structure. It would be nice to see you use it to showcase how to make a beautiful face.
@@seriousgamer4202 it is very confusing for me to determine which ethnic features I should aim for, I am a indian, but my face is more similar to Caucasian.
This is really great study. One small comment - there was no mention of how the length of the upper jaw also affects that gonial angle i.e. in the cases with long upper jaw growth which is why reductions in that vertical length produces a more desired gonial angle. I really enjoyed this video 😀
Mewing, lift your tongue to the roof of your mouth. By 2-3 years of lifting the tounge you will start to build the muscles around the ear (Ramus) down to the gonial-angle in correlation to how more natural it becomes to rest your tongue in the correct position on top of the pallet. Most people don't trust it because the thruth is being supressed. You can both bite upwards with the lower part of the jaw, which builds the mandible, and downwards with the upper side of the jaw which build the ramus ( the ramus is connected to the maxilla beside the ears). It takes some time because it is the same thing as building muscles through workouts/training. To build muscles it takes time and dedication, which most people don't have. Sure it doens't help either that people are not informed. There is a reason most of us don't have the ramus, because the ramus needs help from the tongues pressure to squeeze the bones into the right position as well as helping less stronger musculature to proceed in the official biting posture. This is why when people try to mew, it is uncomfortable, like they can't breath because the space is not developed, which also shows through how prominant your ramus is. It takes time for the mouth to form, but over time both looks and breathing through the nose feels absolutly right. Posture starts from your head/tongue, not the chest/shoulders.
@@OnePixL yup and 1 year I noticed a big difference. I was naturally mewing when the mask mandate started in 2020 because of course, when wearing a mask it’s hard to breath with your mouth. And I didn’t realize it then, but My face just looked better and was more angular. Recently, I realized I became more of a mouth breather after I stopped wearing the mask, and I didn’t even notice. And in just a year of not mewing, my jaw became a lot more lower and rounder. I’m back to mewing because I realized this, and hope to come back to my natural face soon.
can you do a video on Freida Pinto? Indians call her average but in the west she would be perceived as gorgeous. I always thought that there was such a thing as universal beauty. But it seems that I'm wrong. can you do an analysis of beauty and the perception of beauty in different countries and the reason for that?
She’s average to Indians? I find her pretty, but I’m also American lol. What do Indians find more attractive then? I’m curious, is there a certain Indian celebrity that you would say fits Indian ideals perfectly?
I’ll give you two of her features that work against her ( that sounds harsh because actually she’s good looking). First is her lack of pointy chin, she has a more square chin which is not valued in the East. Second is her deep-set eyes, if you compare her to other Indian beauties her eyes are much more deep set in the sockets.
@@drunkclouds888 Agree! From my observation, most younger gen in S.E.A prefered the softer-looking East Asian beauty standards meanwhile older generation tend to lean towards Masculine Western-like beauty standards.
One more thing, could you talk about the use of anabolic steroids to induce grow of the mandibule. I've seen that bodybuilders that use anabolics have a huge grow to this bone
I don’t think this guy will know about gear. But yes you can with prolonged use especially of hgh / insulin along with testosterone but it takes abuse to make a visible difference
You've mentioned afew times that western beauty standards is having'sharp' or 'angular' features but I'm not sure how true that is as people i know or know of will always think people with 'weak' features are attractive ie flat cheekbones recessed chin no jaw line ect. I have prominent cheekbones and angular jaw and people always think im ugly. Maybe I just live in the wrong place lmao
My nose is proportional and my lips are full... My eyes are round but I can make them look almond with makeup. I Dont know maybe I just don't have much facial harmony over all 🤷
Here’s a tip: People like him are irresistible because he combines symmetry with a combination of feminine and masculine features, aka androgyny. For example Eyebrows: horizontal (masculine), Eyes: soft, not deepset (feminine).
Say, I’ve already had braces to correct an underbite, and I still have a high gonial angle and short ramus, which makes my jaw a bit down turned. Is there a procedure that could fix this?
Mewing, lift your tongue to the roof of your mouth. By 2-3 years of lifting the tounge you will start to build the muscles around the ear (Ramus) down to the gonial-angle in correlation to how more natural it becomes to rest your tongue in the correct position on top of the pallet. Most people don't trust it because the thruth is being supressed. You can both bite upwards with the lower part of the jaw, which builds the mandible, and downwards with the upper side of the jaw which build the ramus ( the ramus is connected to the maxilla beside the ears). It takes some time because it is the same thing as building muscles through workouts/training. To build muscles it takes time and dedication, which most people don't have. Sure it doens't help either that people are not informed. There is a reason most of us don't have the ramus, because the ramus needs help from the tongues pressure to squeeze the bones into the right position as well as helping less stronger musculature to proceed in the official biting posture. This is why when people try to mew, it is uncomfortable, like they can't breath because the space is not developed, which also shows through how prominant your ramus is. It takes time for the mouth to form, but over time both looks and breathing through the nose feels absolutly right. Posture starts from your head/tongue, not the chest/shoulders.
I hope you make a video about black guys' haircuts because we tend to have way more rugged hair than anyone else (what type of haircuts that's suits us better ex twist or braids )
So should we play up or emphasise what we already have? For the longest time I thought I had a masculine gonial angle but it’s identical to Timothee’s now that you bring it up.
Do you know if we can be able to change the gonial angle with the right mastication? Or are there other factors? And of you lose weight, does that make the gonial angle more prominent?
@@QOVESStudio Ive noticed clear growth at the gonion from mastic chewing for a while. Still unsure if i liked ut though. I think i prefered my gonial angle to be slightly higher altho at the same time chewing strenghtened the bones in my midfsce slightly
Mewing, lift your tongue to the roof of your mouth. By 2-3 years of lifting the tounge you will start to build the muscles around the ear (Ramus) down to the gonial-angle in correlation to how more natural it becomes to rest your tongue in the correct position on top of the pallet. Most people don't trust it because the thruth is being supressed. You can both bite upwards with the lower part of the jaw, which builds the mandible, and downwards with the upper side of the jaw which build the ramus ( the ramus is connected to the maxilla beside the ears). It takes some time because it is the same thing as building muscles through workouts/training. To build muscles it takes time and dedication, which most people don't have. Sure it doens't help either that people are not informed. There is a reason most of us don't have the ramus, because the ramus needs help from the tongues pressure to squeeze the bones into the right position as well as helping less stronger musculature to proceed in the official biting posture. This is why when people try to mew, it is uncomfortable, like they can't breath because the space is not developed, which also shows through how prominant your ramus is. It takes time for the mouth to form, but over time both looks and breathing through the nose feels absolutly right. Posture starts from your head/tongue, not the chest/shoulders.
Can u do a video about how much orthodontist can change your face? I'm on invisalign and m jawline is getting more defined and my face is more symmetrical.
I would like to see the consequences on face length (that is usually unattractive) and face width. And what are the caracteristics of women with short, wide, cat-like face ?
I agree, but you can't separate mandible and maxilla. In theory, if you are aletring the ramus, you must alter maxilla also. E.g. picture in thumbnail. Maxilla grows at the joint, widens by apposition of the bone on the outside and removal on the inside. So for that ramus shape/position and gonial angle (pic.2) to happen,siginificant maxillar forward growth should have happaned before. That's why face in second picture looks unbalanced, flat, even looks like she has calss II div. I. You can't change gonial angle without changing maxilla.
@@ariesmry It's kind of true that they are infomercials but... This channel has been making videos even before they introduced the paid face rating. Being attractive is also very important... But you gotta live with what you can't fix
doesnt ear size matter, as to how much the ramus goes below the earlobe. For example cillian murphy who has a pretty square jaw (low gonial angle) but appears to have a small ramus length.
But like the thumbnail lengthening the ramus downward means that the mandibular corpus has to become longer to compensate correct? The altered photo on the right is more square but her face ends up more recessed
Would you mind clarifying which anatomical features should be used as the points along the ray extending from the gonial angle in both directions? For example it appears that you are using the most medial aspect of the tragus for the ramus but I am unsure of what to look for when analyzing the mandible. Menton, soft tissue menton? Please advise, thank you!
Watch again because he literally said " the features don't grow in isolation" meaning all these people have beautiful face structure because the base ,which is the jaw, is already well developed. If they had dental issues, they won't have such distinct beautiful features.
Wait....i never used a pacifier nor did i suck my thumb. My jawline is very soft. Meanwhile, my brother used a pacifier till he was around five, and has a really sharp jaw. Though he's also skinnier than me so maybe there's that.
But it's the OTHER times. He did nose breathing. Ate with mouth closed also. Probably no allergies. Offset the bad habits.and ue didn't do them through his growth phase.
maybe you guys could talk about the differences that make a feminine face either hot, pretty, or cute. idk if you guys have heard the saying all women fit under one of those categories but i feel like it would b an interesting topic. one person i can think of who fits all 3 is ana de armas, but maybe her "hotness" is more because of the way she presents herself. would love to know ur thoughts.
yessss
I use the, cute, fine, bad metric system.
Yessss
I genuinely think there are LOT of women who can be all three at different times, depending on how they dress/do their makeup. It takes a lot of work, but while I'm generally "cute" with little to no makeup, I can be "pretty" with a little more makeup, and if I really push it and wear the right outfit, I /can/ be "hot". I think a lot of women have this capability.
Would LOVE this! The first person that came to my mind was Jennie Kim
Fixing my slouching and bad posture definitely helped make my jaw line show how it should. Thought it was bad, but I just needed to get my health in order and stand up straight properly. The company I work for literally asked me to be the face of their company and I modelled for their website and advertising, one shot specifically being of my side profile. Can't slouch my potential away.
I've fixed my posture when I saw this comment.
How does back posture affect your jaw
@@divinegon4671 you could unintentionally be giving yourself a double chin if you don't lengthen your neck by standing up straight
@@divinegon4671 nerd neck
@@divinegon4671 tu maxilar está hacia abajo y malogra tu ángulo gonial
so fascinating. my jawline is somewhat strong but it does appear weak at times, likely due to facial fat and feminine features but it does appear stronger in a front profile as opposed to a side profile.
@Ezequiel Solaire I think that's the preferred way
Same. I know I got some real chiselled shit hiding in there somewhere lmao.
Same here.
I feel you, but w me if the lighting is wired from the front my jaw bones can look like they’re blended in with my neck
Lower 3rd of the face is so important in facial aesthetic imo. QOVES teach me a lot of things about my aesthetic
Jaw is law
That's why mask fishing is a thing now
It’s all important
@@notsocooldude7720 You're important
@@BitchChill I wish
What do you for in women?
Others: Eyes, lips, etc.
Me (an avid QOVES Studio follower) : Gonial angle, interpupillary distance... 🗿
I would also like to mention I have noticed that the angular jaw as a sign of attractiveness is more prevalent in USA. There are countries that think a rounder face on women is more cute and feminine.
You mean Asia.
European standards tend to be the same as US
Marilyn Monroe, Elizabeth Taylor, Aishwarya Rai…all 3 considered ‘ideal beauties’ by Western standards and none have chiselled or angular jawlines. I don’t think it’s a sign of attractiveness on women anywhere on earth, atleast not by itself, but it is a desirable trait for super models and fashion models where androgynous faces and body shapes are sought after.
@@fatoumfatoumeh agree
Say East Asia. Round and oval faces don't have hype anywhere except East Asia.
@@thanos8638bingo
eyebrow height and shapes is a good topic too. I have low brow and hate it (as an asian with round eyes) but others say it's nice. I find high arched brow really beautiful.
Would be an interesting topic is one of the few parts I do like about myself
Everyone wants what they can’t have! I have high, arched brows but have always desired the lowered shape because of how it shapes the eyes, it makes you look less surprised and innocent!
Maybe you can try to thin your eyebrows a bit? Then they can appear higher and will open your eye a bit
@@c1nder same
I think lower set, straight-ish brows on women look beautiful on faces with small or rounded ‘girlish’ facial features (like we see in some Asian female celebs), and high arched brows more beautiful on women with more lush ‘womanly’ features (like Marilyn Monroe and Sofia Loren for eg).
Interesting. A lot of women in east asia are more into "v-shaped" jawline(130-140 angle) to produce that oval, egg-shaped face.
Yeah it’s pretty common to for them to get surgery to get the v shape too
@@Autumn_xx1 so is the v shaped face higher or lower gonial angle..?
@@nopehaha3660 higher
@@Autumn_xx1 ooh okay thank you~
the higher the gonial angle the less sharp it looks, right?
how do most of them have sharp jaws? is jaw augmentation (fillers) most likely they got done? south korea is no stranger to plastic surgery
can you explain exactly what makes some women like angelina jolie and margot Robbie pull off a square jaw whereas some women will look comical and masculine w it
I think it's has a lot to do with the other features combined with the square jaw. Say you had a square jaw, and your other features are also quite masculine like a strong brow bone, thick dark eyebrows, wide nose etc., that's going to give you an overall masculine look. But if you had a square jaw combined with more feminine features like thinner brows, wide eyes etc., it's going to make you look more feminine just with an interesting jaw shape like Angelina Jolie or Margot Robbie
@@jazbean but some women can have attractive features and still a square jaw takes away from their beauty whereas for some it adds to it. I want to know the reason for that bc I have "good " forward growth with strong square jaw and cheekbones but feel like it can take away from my looks haha
@@shivi3132 Yeah I get what you mean. I guess it's mostly to do with overall facial harmony, but I'm not sure which other anatomical traits can improve facial attractiveness because there must be more to it than masculine/feminine features. I'm no expert though, lol. Maybe look for more videos on the topic.
The only odd faces I have seen which I am assuming you are talking about , thoes that giveaway a very masculine and not attractive look, are the ones who go under the knife to do such drastic measures. But women who have it naturally look remarkable! Their faces always have harmony and feminine delicacy. Even though Margot and Angelina had cosmetic surgery, still both started with very sharp and feminine features. Also helps to have good doctors that good harmonize the changes to the whole face. Thats why it's important to know your face intimately. I would even go further and suggest to you to check out David Kibbe's body classification system. Where he mentions how body types can affect your overall appearance, including your face structure.
@@user-iq9dd4kk9n thank u
Yeah this serie is a lot easier to follow than back when i started watching. Its fun to refresh my knowledge tho and honestly these are very good videos
Id love to see a video relating orthodontics to facial shape, how much braces can do for your facial aesthetics. I've had braces for a year now and the changes in my face shape is so apparent already it's crazy, yet I'm nowhere close to finishing my treatment
Are you a guy? What are the changes? Jaw /lips expansion?
I would love if you guys analyzed Monica Belluci’s beauty! She is so, so beautiful.
Yes and with a really High gonial angle. She is interesting indeed
@@leora2455 Meaning the jaw side profile is quite diagonal? That’s attractive
@@katpage9378 no. I have it and I hate it
She is the most beautiful face of all together with Adriana Lima, Monica even in her more ages, still put most girls ( including me lol ) under her foot.
@@lev1anus what's interesting about Adriana is that she has weak facial development yet she's so stunning
Can you do a video on forehead sloping and how relevant it is for men's attractiveness? There are barely any men popular for being good looking that do not have high forehead sloping.
Are you saying a sloped forehead, as opposed to a more vertical straight one is more or less attractive?
Forehead inclination is a dimorphic trait, so it does contribute heavily to looking more masculine. It also helps to present more forward facing dental features.
@@joe-ke7pu Yeah I know, I'm a man with a decently masculine face (imo) but very little forehead sloping, and I guess I wanted to know how relevant it is.
@@Tigo625Matt bomer, high forehead sloping means good forward facial growth
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I think this is a well-simplified video for those who didn't understand before!
Hey qoves, i don't know if you are a gamer but the elden ring's character creation is quite interesting with the options given to the player to modify face structure. It would be nice to see you use it to showcase how to make a beautiful face.
Bruh, Ive made some lovecraftian monstrosities with that game.
Please make some videos on South Asian aesthetics .
hes already done one
@@seriousgamer4202 yes but it is very short one, and he does not go deep down there.
@@seriousgamer4202 it is very confusing for me to determine which ethnic features I should aim for, I am a indian, but my face is more similar to Caucasian.
@@nicolatesla4876 If your face is more similar to Caucasians, you're very safe, as it will be more attractive, generally.
This is really great study. One small comment - there was no mention of how the length of the upper jaw also affects that gonial angle i.e. in the cases with long upper jaw growth which is why reductions in that vertical length produces a more desired gonial angle. I really enjoyed this video 😀
Mewing, lift your tongue to the roof of your mouth. By 2-3 years of lifting the tounge you will start to build the muscles around the ear (Ramus) down to the gonial-angle in correlation to how more natural it becomes to rest your tongue in the correct position on top of the pallet. Most people don't trust it because the thruth is being supressed. You can both bite upwards with the lower part of the jaw, which builds the mandible, and downwards with the upper side of the jaw which build the ramus ( the ramus is connected to the maxilla beside the ears). It takes some time because it is the same thing as building muscles through workouts/training. To build muscles it takes time and dedication, which most people don't have. Sure it doens't help either that people are not informed. There is a reason most of us don't have the ramus, because the ramus needs help from the tongues pressure to squeeze the bones into the right position as well as helping less stronger musculature to proceed in the official biting posture. This is why when people try to mew, it is uncomfortable, like they can't breath because the space is not developed, which also shows through how prominant your ramus is. It takes time for the mouth to form, but over time both looks and breathing through the nose feels absolutly right. Posture starts from your head/tongue, not the chest/shoulders.
@@OnePixL Strengthening the muscles won’t change the bone structure after someone is already done growing
@@notsocooldude7720 Sure it is harder when you are older, but that does not mean it does not work when you are older at all.
@@OnePixL Yes, it pretty much does. Any changes will be extremely minimal if there even are any
@@OnePixL yup and 1 year I noticed a big difference. I was naturally mewing when the mask mandate started in 2020 because of course, when wearing a mask it’s hard to breath with your mouth. And I didn’t realize it then, but My face just looked better and was more angular. Recently, I realized I became more of a mouth breather after I stopped wearing the mask, and I didn’t even notice. And in just a year of not mewing, my jaw became a lot more lower and rounder. I’m back to mewing because I realized this, and hope to come back to my natural face soon.
Your channel’s new and awesome of a rabbit hole to travel down! Love learning all this as I upgrade my looks lately
Analyze Monica Bellucci's face please.
YES. Monica has a really High gonial angle
Done
This is outta the vid content ,u once talked about ur interest in Fashion and YSL to be exact, i’d loveeee to hear u talking about such topics 💟💟💟💟
Let us more time (2-3 more seconds) to see and compare the edited faces. Doing pause and play reduce the experience
Other than that great video
agree, just a tad bit longer please
love your videos man. i always learn so much. keep it up as always
Could you talk about lips and how to possibly correct them without surgery?
can you do a video on Freida Pinto? Indians call her average but in the west she would be perceived as gorgeous. I always thought that there was such a thing as universal beauty. But it seems that I'm wrong. can you do an analysis of beauty and the perception of beauty in different countries and the reason for that?
She’s average to Indians? I find her pretty, but I’m also American lol. What do Indians find more attractive then? I’m curious, is there a certain Indian celebrity that you would say fits Indian ideals perfectly?
I’ll give you two of her features that work against her ( that sounds harsh because actually she’s good looking). First is her lack of pointy chin, she has a more square chin which is not valued in the East. Second is her deep-set eyes, if you compare her to other Indian beauties her eyes are much more deep set in the sockets.
@@song5341 aishwarya rai is indias ideal woman. Frida pinto does look weird to me, and im not indian at all.
Different cultures value different things.
I think that part of it is that, if her skin tone was different, she wouldn't look Indian at all.
As a south Asian in the west. She definitely fits into western ideal of beauty.
Can you talk about gonial eversion and how it affects the definition of the side profile, and reduces facial angularity from the front profile?
Can you make a video on how mewing can affect the ramus height and/or mandibular body (and to what extent)? thank you
Can you talk about South East Asian (S.E.A) beauty standards?
i think they are a lot like east asian beauty standards but maybe have more emphasis on sensuality than east asian beauty standards
@@drunkclouds888 Agree! From my observation, most younger gen in S.E.A prefered the softer-looking East Asian beauty standards meanwhile older generation tend to lean towards Masculine Western-like beauty standards.
@@draccuzer the younger gen prefer that bc of kpop i think
@@drunkclouds888 Yeah you're right 👍🏻
can you please talk more about forheads and what is the best forhead for women (SIDE profile) 🙌🔥
I do think a video on how a voice can "Match" a face would be interesting
Yes!
Thumbnail girl look like an angel
Facts who is she
And Richard Ramirez looks like a Devil
@@BitchChill Good looking devil😈. Like the villains in anime
One more thing, could you talk about the use of anabolic steroids to induce grow of the mandibule. I've seen that bodybuilders that use anabolics have a huge grow to this bone
I don’t think this guy will know about gear. But yes you can with prolonged use especially of hgh / insulin along with testosterone but it takes abuse to make a visible difference
Just do drugs bro
@@ididntaskratio2206 that is for cheekbones/hollow cheeks💀
that jaw bone comes with a price.. smaller D, aggression, bad skin, damage to your heart etc. just don't do it.
@@meladversity this isn’t correct at all lol you have no idea
You've mentioned afew times that western beauty standards is having'sharp' or 'angular' features but I'm not sure how true that is as people i know or know of will always think people with 'weak' features are attractive ie flat cheekbones recessed chin no jaw line ect. I have prominent cheekbones and angular jaw and people always think im ugly. Maybe I just live in the wrong place lmao
it could be your nose
or mouth
or eyes
Jaw is just one piece of the puzzle sadly
Do you happen to live in Asia?
My nose is proportional and my lips are full... My eyes are round but I can make them look almond with makeup. I Dont know maybe I just don't have much facial harmony over all 🤷
@@limpcheesestick I live in the UK... They seem to like very sexually dimorphic conforming faces here.. But that might be the same eveywhere lol
@@mstarburst weird
An Alaine delon analysis would be amazing
I’m surprised you didn’t really mention anything about jaw width
0:05 "... for, say, the last 3 years"
Damn Qoves... The shade 💀
My gonial angle is 137 degrees is that normal? I have a very short ramus but my jaw is very short too making my angle look rather square
Because this video my potrait drawing goes stonk🔥🔥🔥👍
I lost it when you covered Jeremy Meeks😆🤣
Loved it! Great vid!!!
Good vid
i memorized it in medschool 😂 it's about 125°, never thought it would come into aesthetics
I would love an Anya Taylor-Joy analysis! She's gorgeous!
I think a high gonial angle is a feminine trait but it honestly looks good on both genders in my opinion
What about the effect of having low set ears? Chalamet has low set ears which makes his ramus appear shorter.
Another banger
Please make one video on zayn Malik please 🙏❤️
You make it
Overrated ethnic
Here’s a tip: People like him are irresistible because he combines symmetry with a combination of feminine and masculine features, aka androgyny. For example Eyebrows: horizontal (masculine), Eyes: soft, not deepset (feminine).
What’s the solution for the skin under the jaw that makes it look like the jaw and the neck connected with no definition
have you found the answer?? if yes tell me 😭
Fat
@@aimandarwisy2736ara you fund?
Say, I’ve already had braces to correct an underbite, and I still have a high gonial angle and short ramus, which makes my jaw a bit down turned. Is there a procedure that could fix this?
Chin tucks
13:25 bro i laughed at this part becuz of the memes
How is the angle measured if you have a gonion notch? Is the angle measured at the point of the notch, or further down the mandible?
Also, how can you influence or change your gonial angle with surgery or other things.
Mewing, lift your tongue to the roof of your mouth. By 2-3 years of lifting the tounge you will start to build the muscles around the ear (Ramus) down to the gonial-angle in correlation to how more natural it becomes to rest your tongue in the correct position on top of the pallet. Most people don't trust it because the thruth is being supressed. You can both bite upwards with the lower part of the jaw, which builds the mandible, and downwards with the upper side of the jaw which build the ramus ( the ramus is connected to the maxilla beside the ears). It takes some time because it is the same thing as building muscles through workouts/training. To build muscles it takes time and dedication, which most people don't have. Sure it doens't help either that people are not informed. There is a reason most of us don't have the ramus, because the ramus needs help from the tongues pressure to squeeze the bones into the right position as well as helping less stronger musculature to proceed in the official biting posture. This is why when people try to mew, it is uncomfortable, like they can't breath because the space is not developed, which also shows through how prominant your ramus is. It takes time for the mouth to form, but over time both looks and breathing through the nose feels absolutly right. Posture starts from your head/tongue, not the chest/shoulders.
Mewing, Chewing harder foods fully, mastic gum, orthodontics for malocclusion too possibly
Mewing and chewing hard foods and lots of gum helps if you're still in puberty for an adult however, surgery is the only way
@@mehmesayed4234 what surgery? CCW rotation maybe?
I hope you make a video about black guys' haircuts because we tend to have way more rugged hair than anyone else (what type of haircuts that's suits us better ex twist or braids )
Can masseter botox for facial slimming affect the side profile of the jaw/attractiveness? And if so how?
Yes it affects that
8:17 Ryan kinda looks like Freddie Prince Jr.
Great video! It would be nice if you analyze Jacob Elordi face. Think somehow he has a lot to be talked about.
Completely agree!
Really nice!
Lol 12:14 is that the guy that Zara called out on social media because she wanted to date him?
Yes!
Can you analyze Stray Kids Felix's cat face and his anime boy face? Please!
Which are more important: gonions, or gonads?
Bruxism/nightly Teeth grinders. Where you all at? This is our moment to shine!
👍👍
So should we play up or emphasise what we already have? For the longest time I thought I had a masculine gonial angle but it’s identical to Timothee’s now that you bring it up.
Do you know if we can be able to change the gonial angle with the right mastication? Or are there other factors? And of you lose weight, does that make the gonial angle more prominent?
Theres surgery and with mastication it changes by around 1 go 2 degrees so not much to be significant.
@@QOVESStudio Ive noticed clear growth at the gonion from mastic chewing for a while. Still unsure if i liked ut though. I think i prefered my gonial angle to be slightly higher altho at the same time chewing strenghtened the bones in my midfsce slightly
Mewing, lift your tongue to the roof of your mouth. By 2-3 years of lifting the tounge you will start to build the muscles around the ear (Ramus) down to the gonial-angle in correlation to how more natural it becomes to rest your tongue in the correct position on top of the pallet. Most people don't trust it because the thruth is being supressed. You can both bite upwards with the lower part of the jaw, which builds the mandible, and downwards with the upper side of the jaw which build the ramus ( the ramus is connected to the maxilla beside the ears). It takes some time because it is the same thing as building muscles through workouts/training. To build muscles it takes time and dedication, which most people don't have. Sure it doens't help either that people are not informed. There is a reason most of us don't have the ramus, because the ramus needs help from the tongues pressure to squeeze the bones into the right position as well as helping less stronger musculature to proceed in the official biting posture. This is why when people try to mew, it is uncomfortable, like they can't breath because the space is not developed, which also shows through how prominant your ramus is. It takes time for the mouth to form, but over time both looks and breathing through the nose feels absolutly right. Posture starts from your head/tongue, not the chest/shoulders.
Mewing and chewing right goes a long way. Especially if you're a teen
@@OnePixL Thank you guys for the clarification, this is amazing insight! I will try mewing to see these results.
Who's the person in the thumbnail
Luma Grothe
Ahh, now I know why my face is so square shaped. So interesting!
13:04
wait, so if ur gonial angle is 130, it will be less sharp?
My gonial angke is low plzz tell me how to increase it😢
Can u do a video about how much orthodontist can change your face? I'm on invisalign and m jawline is getting more defined and my face is more symmetrical.
Hey qoves nice vids bro I suggest 3 people for you to make videos on next
Corey Campbell
Heir of Atticus / gauge
Rome Flynn
Can you do a face analysis of Juhi Chawla?
Weird, your website and most papers seem to say the ideal angle is 130 which is firmly in pretty boy range
Please please please do deepika padukone face analysis
I would love to know if its possible to change the gonial angle and if the literature agrees with mewing and all that
It’s possible if you’re still growing but as an adult you’ll see little to no results. At that point you’d need surgery
@@notsocooldude7720 what surgery? CCW rotation maybe?
@@seantarpey9459 Some type of jaw surgery (don’t know the name) and it can also be altered slightly with implants
Lol listen to subliminal
@@shariraja5309هل قمت بالتجربة؟
I would like to see the consequences on face length (that is usually unattractive) and face width. And what are the caracteristics of women with short, wide, cat-like face ?
Please can you make a video on what makes a face gender neutral or androgynous,i find it fascinating 😭😭😭😭😭
what program do we use to simulate those changes??
Are there any books that allow beginners to learn about facial aesthetics?
I agree, but you can't separate mandible and maxilla. In theory, if you are aletring the ramus, you must alter maxilla also. E.g. picture in thumbnail. Maxilla grows at the joint, widens by apposition of the bone on the outside and removal on the inside. So for that ramus shape/position and gonial angle (pic.2) to happen,siginificant maxillar forward growth should have happaned before. That's why face in second picture looks unbalanced, flat, even looks like she has calss II div. I. You can't change gonial angle without changing maxilla.
Yes you can if you have no significant recession
Is it possible to get surgically correction to get a more forward jaw and less of a flat face profile?
Yes I believe so!
How did Kylie jenner go from extremely masculine features and square jaw, to a more feminine heart shaped jaw ????
So what do you do if your face is downward grown? Just lay down and rot?...
Smash your jaw with a hammer 🔨
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@@MoreDatesMoreRapes Reasonable. If your face looks like shit break your bones and get free facial surgery.
@@ariesmry It's kind of true that they are infomercials but... This channel has been making videos even before they introduced the paid face rating. Being attractive is also very important... But you gotta live with what you can't fix
Mewing
This topic always makes me think about Coco Austin's very masculine jaw.
doesnt ear size matter, as to how much the ramus goes below the earlobe. For example cillian murphy who has a pretty square jaw (low gonial angle) but appears to have a small ramus length.
Also mads mikkelsen is another example.
But like the thumbnail lengthening the ramus downward means that the mandibular corpus has to become longer to compensate correct? The altered photo on the right is more square but her face ends up more recessed
On my online dating profile I mention my gonial angle. A woman once rejected me because my gonial angle is 1 degree off from perfection.
Would you mind clarifying which anatomical features should be used as the points along the ray extending from the gonial angle in both directions? For example it appears that you are using the most medial aspect of the tragus for the ramus but I am unsure of what to look for when analyzing the mandible. Menton, soft tissue menton? Please advise, thank you!
I have a question are both of your side ramus the same ? Or can your left side ramus be different from the other side?
can you do something to make it sharper?
All of these people still look very attractive no matter how you change their jaws
wrong
Watch again because he literally said " the features don't grow in isolation" meaning all these people have beautiful face structure because the base ,which is the jaw, is already well developed. If they had dental issues, they won't have such distinct beautiful features.
Will you analyse Hunter Schafer?
Fuck me, this video must’ve been recorded in a charisma vacuum!
Can you do a celebrity analysis video on Dua Lipa please? Please please please!!! 🙏🙏🙏🙏
Should do a video on thylane.
In Asia they tend to shave down their zygoma and mandible bone.
Wait....i never used a pacifier nor did i suck my thumb. My jawline is very soft.
Meanwhile, my brother used a pacifier till he was around five, and has a really sharp jaw. Though he's also skinnier than me so maybe there's that.
Genetic
But it's the OTHER times. He did nose breathing. Ate with mouth closed also. Probably no allergies. Offset the bad habits.and ue didn't do them through his growth phase.
Sir zayn Malik video please 🙏❤️
Hello,I would like to undergo a facial consultation with your company. How do I become a. Client?
Margot Robbie have an amazing jaw too
My adhd don't let me watch the whole video. Way too long for me 😅 no one can make everybody happy anyways
So angelina and kareena jaw consider beautiful or not ?
Yes, conventionally beautiful
@@requiem6960 I think it looks like trans
@@bababoyyye no?? 💀