I don't like "Student" oboes and I have my students drop that money on a very old professional oboe that works well and avoid the forked F conundrum. Student models on other instruments are not missing any of the keys. None of them. I understand it's to make them lighter and more durable, but a the keywork isn't any more durable, and the student is still gonna have to fight with it. They may as well fight with an old Rigoutat, which I can probably get them for les than a new YOB-241. It will take them a LOT longer. They won't need to upgrade ever unless they want to become a performer, in which case, they will have learned all the right fingerings on a professional model oboe.
I don’t think so, I read online that most companies that make oboes AND other instruments make pretty bad oboes, with the exception of Yamaha and Buffet Crampon
cdirth right you are. My bad. Tom makes excellent bocals and instruments, and very infrequently we see Puchner instruments that are not bassoons. However, Tom’s instruments are handmade, and relatively rare. The Puchner English horns I’ve tried at IDRS conferences have been first rate but extremely rare to see in the US. My point in making this video was to introduce the basics to those without much info. Neither Hiniker, nor Puchner are among the basics for those at that level that I have experienced over my 35 years doing this. Thanks for your on-point comments.
I'm also suprised he didn't mention Howarth, if Howarth oboes are the best, when I was buying my oboe I choose Howarth over loree and I have no regrets.
Hi Sam! That is a Heckelphone which is sort of like a bass oboe. There are actual bass oboes, and they have differences, but the pitch is the same. While unique, the Heckel company still makes these, although at a rate of one or two a year.
Hi Cynthia! They do come in from time to time. I list current stock at www.charlesmusic.com/cgi-bin/theo?action=category&main_category=Instruments,%20Bocals&sub_category=Used%20Oboes Thanks for asking! - Brian
Lots of great points for people new to the oboe.
I don't like "Student" oboes and I have my students drop that money on a very old professional oboe that works well and avoid the forked F conundrum.
Student models on other instruments are not missing any of the keys. None of them. I understand it's to make them lighter and more durable, but a the keywork isn't any more durable, and the student is still gonna have to fight with it. They may as well fight with an old Rigoutat, which I can probably get them for les than a new YOB-241. It will take them a LOT longer. They won't need to upgrade ever unless they want to become a performer, in which case, they will have learned all the right fingerings on a professional model oboe.
Strangely enough you don't mention the fully automatic one with Just one octave key
Thanks.
Fossati MB for me!
Excuse me! Can you consultant for me should buy product line oboe for beginner play good?
Hi! Is a selmer signet conservatory oboe good for a beginner?
I don’t think so, I read online that most companies that make oboes AND other instruments make pretty bad oboes, with the exception of Yamaha and Buffet Crampon
I read people reviews on reddit that it's bad
Interesting that you don't include Hiniker or Puchner in your recommendations. I would take either of those over a Loree any day.
cdirth considering that they are both manufacturers of bassoons, perhaps that would factor in to not recommending buying oboes from them.
Tom Hiniker only makes oboes.... and bocals. Are you thinking of Heckel? And Puchner makes one of the best English Horns on the market
cdirth right you are. My bad. Tom makes excellent bocals and instruments, and very infrequently we see Puchner instruments that are not bassoons. However, Tom’s instruments are handmade, and relatively rare. The Puchner English horns I’ve tried at IDRS conferences have been first rate but extremely rare to see in the US. My point in making this video was to introduce the basics to those without much info. Neither Hiniker, nor Puchner are among the basics for those at that level that I have experienced over my 35 years doing this. Thanks for your on-point comments.
I'm also suprised he didn't mention Howarth, if Howarth oboes are the best, when I was buying my oboe I choose Howarth over loree and I have no regrets.
Howarth is on his list
What is that red instrument with the peg in the beginning of the video
Hi Sam! That is a Heckelphone which is sort of like a bass oboe. There are actual bass oboes, and they have differences, but the pitch is the same. While unique, the Heckel company still makes these, although at a rate of one or two a year.
Do you have any used Laubin oboes for sale?
Hi Cynthia! They do come in from time to time. I list current stock at www.charlesmusic.com/cgi-bin/theo?action=category&main_category=Instruments,%20Bocals&sub_category=Used%20Oboes Thanks for asking! - Brian
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