In that case you can use Euler formula exp(2kPI) where k€{...,-1,0,1,...} - iterate through k from 0 to 4 and proof, that rest of ks will be the same due to periodical nature
If you are running a kebab "restaurant" or a gas station, then yes: you do not need to have anything in common with any university 😀 to be 100% honest when I saw this video graphics I knew the answer within 3s, but I would never propose such a solution! Chapeau bas to everyone who knows how to solve it without looking into any math books!
@@ashtheflyingjew9520 it is not useless - we wouldn't be writing to each other if not this kind of people who are able to solve complex mathematical problems. Someone will take a joy from running a gas station other from solving an absurd mathematical problems :) Both are needed :)
@@thedarthrage you won't be making money from studying in cambridge you will spend the rest of your life paying student debt, so yeah college is useless. On the other hand everyone needs food to survive so running a kebab restaurant is more useful and profitable.
Solutions of x^n-1=0 : Consider the unit circle and the point with maximum x value. This is a solution, trivially. Now divide 360 degrees by n. Move along the circle counter clockwise and select points evyer (360/n) degrees. These are all solutions. To convert to complex numbers , z = (cos theta + i \sin theta) where theta = 360k/n for 0
But he literally finds the sine and cosine of those angles in surd form. For example, the 4 key values are: sin(36⁰ ± 18⁰) = (√5 ± 1)/4 sin(54⁰ ± 18⁰) = √(10 ± 2*√5)/4 The solutions use these values in ± form.
(Typos forgiven.) Exactly, and even taking time to explain this a little more clearly this solution require much less time than the half hour devoted to the video. Besides which this is easily generalized for xⁿ = y and still takes essentially constant time to accomplish. God help me if I should have to spend a half an hour on a single entrance exam problem.
If you really intend to get in to Cambridge, you probably ought to know that exp(2kπi) = 1 where k ∈ ℤ. Then x^5 = exp(2kπi), giving the five solutions as x = exp(2kπi/5) where k = { 0 ... 4 }. The trivial solution is when k=0, giving x = 1. The principal root is therefore exp(2πi/5) = cos(2π/5) + i.sin(2π/5), and the other three are cos(4π/5) + i.sin(4π/5), cos(6π/5) + i.sin(6π/5) and cos(8π/5) + i.sin(8π/5). The time you save (about 23 minutes, apparently) will allow you to do several more trivial questions.
The solution on the video has a nice algebraic approach which is also useful and applicable to other algebra problems. Going for the complex exponential solution requires a whole background on the complex plane in order to render the final solution simple. Both solutions are useful in different moments of math instruction.
@@luisrocha26 The "nice" algebraic approach works in this case because we can solve quartic equations. Have a think about how you might extend the technique to the six roots of x^6 = 1 or the seven roots of x^7 = 1, etc. You may conclude that the complex exponential is a more general solution. I find the particular solution in the video interesting because it allows us to introduce the complex method and then check the results against a purely algebraic method. But beyond that, I'd be hard pressed to recommend that students should consider it. YMMV.
@@RexxSchneider I'm not talking about being able to generalize the solution nor demonstrate more complex things; it's useful as as didactic exercise on algebra
But he found the sin and cos of those angles in surd form. You're stuck with answers such as cos(72⁰) + i*sin(72⁰) and have to figure out how to go further.
@@oahuhawaii2141 But 99% of the time, nobody needs to go further. The trig form is an exact form, just like the surd form. We find that cos(2π/5) is generally just as useful as (√5 - 1)/4. To use it we're almost always going to use a numerical approximation, and either form will give the same approximation, about 0.309. I concede that if there is a problem where the result has to be multiplied by (√5+1), you can get a simplification, but those cases must be vanishingly rare. And finally, the question never specified that an answer in surd form was required. I assure you that when I took my Cambridge Scholarship exams in 1968, I never wasted time trying to answer questions I wasn't asked.
This comment section be like: 1. “Isn’t it just 1?” 2. “This video is stupid” 3. Actual solutions, that are a bit harder to understand for people who just stumble onto this video.
x⁵ = 1 so 5 roots. Angle between roots will be 360º / 5 = 72º. So, answers are: (1, 0º), (1, 72º), (1, 144º), (1, 216º), (1, 288º). EDIT: "Cheap way out?" Agreed. Why make things more difficult than they need to be? EDIT2: "How did u guess they'd have the same distance?" They always do! Look up: "Multiplying Complex Numbers in Polar Form" You multiply the magnitudes but add the angles. So, for a fifth root you need a set of angles that when multiplied by 5 will always end up with the same answer. So: 5 * 0º = 0º 5 * 72º = 360º or 0º 5 * 144º = 720º or 0º 5 * 216º = 1030º or 0º 5 * 288º = 1440º or 0º
@@autumn948 Irrelevant. They are still correct and root is still a root, no matter the representation you use. Radial coordinates can exist in ANY form of radial system be it degrees radians or the gradian system.
I've posted something like this before. You want to go to your neighbor's house, which is 100 feet to your west. You could walk 100' and arrive at your destination. OR you could travel East the entire diameter of the earth minus that 100'. ALL TOO OFTEN, the solutions shown take the long way to get there.
What does the "traveling" metaphor" means in relationship to math? You have a very naïve understanding concerning what solving a math problem means. Your 100' solution will give only a 1/5 of a correct score.
@@harrisorourke6926 obviously, he could have walked in expanding circles around his house that follow the fibonacci sequence until there is an interception with the backwards traced fibonacci sequence radiating from the neighbour which he then walks backwards. so naive
Except when you are in a polar Region, a bit south of the northpole where he w way eastwards May be the same considered he ist exactly on the opposite Side 180 degrees. Sadly o do Not know how far He must be south of the northpole. IT reminds me of a Joke when a carholic priett ate meat and someone reminded him it was friday, when eating meat IS forbidden for catholics. The priest walke some distance and remarked "Here IT IS still thursday!"
Anyone who knows complex numbers well can just write down all 5 solutions. But k only ranges from 0 to 4, any other integer duplicates one of those answers. (That is, if m = n (mod 5) then e^(2m𝜋i/5) = e^(2n𝜋i/5).)
Yep, so solutions would be 1; 1e^j2π/5; 1e^j-2π/5; 1e^j4π/5; 1e^j-4π/5 with k = -2, -1, 0, 1, 2. Didn't even watched the video just jumped from front picture to comment section.
The thing I don't understand is why do you keep explaining basic math (such as "-x+5 = 5-x") and spend several minutes to rewrite a bunch of obvious things when you're explaining a college level problem? It's like explaining how to build a rocket and then you spend half an hour talking about how the screwdriver works.
Is really funny for you to say that, because I don't know why this appeared in my feed, I was literally just watching a Minecraft video😂. All of a sudden I was here, watched half video and didn't understand nothing jajaj (I'm in Uni, I'm cooked).
@@suryanshvarshney111 "high school" level and "college" level are really subjective as it really isn't one type of math is higher than the other. I've taken Linear Algebra and wasn't required to take one statistics class. So saying this is grade 8th 12th or higher isn't a strong argument.
@@Marinealver i call bs, there clearly are levels to mathematics. You wouldn't go straight to learning Stochastic processes when you don't know shit about basic probability and statistics. And no shit you don't need stats for LA 🤦🏻♂️ two topics can lie on same level. So, no high-school level and college level isn't subjective. It literally implies that these topics were taught in high-school so you should know it🤦🏻♂️ imagine coping so hard that you try to say college level and high school level is subjective 😭🙏🏻
Cambridge exam questions are typically not difficult but there are too many of them in the paper to pass if you spend a lot of time on each. This is a good example, solve laboriously as in the video in 25 minutes and you may get the right answer but no time left to answer enough questions to pass. So the exam is actually testing your depth of understandingand ability use it to see the fast paths to solution. ( which is the euler relation shown by others here. 20 seconds, boom, done.)
Perhaps you are smarter than I, but I would have to disagree. Some of those questions really are just truly hard. This level of question isnt usually present.
Thank you for watching. A great question today x^5 - 1 = 0 (Finding all roots) Have a great day and take care! Wish you all the best in you life and career❤❤❤
It's great that you found sin(θ) and cos(θ) in surd form for θ = k*2*π/5 = k*72⁰ , k ∈ ℤ . Everyone knows the values when k = 0 , but few know them for k = ±1, ±2 . Most are stuck with answers such as cos(72⁰) ± i*sin(72⁰) and have to figure out how to go further. The 4 complex solutions use the following key values in ± form: sin(36⁰ ± 18⁰) = (√5 ± 1)/4 sin(54⁰ ± 18⁰) = √(10 ± 2*√5)/4
The idea is to provide the exact solution without recourse to the trigonometric forms. This also gives you a slick way to find sin(2Pi/5) and cos(2Pi/5)
@@paulbritt588 The trigonometric form is just as exact and usually more useful. The main utility of complex numbers is to describe rotation, and since this is also on the unit cicrle, it's even a subgroup of U(1) (under multiplication). In fact, this subgroup represents the same abstract group as Z5.
@@haakoflo I am aware of the complex solution and the ease with which it solves the problem. I think that the displayed algebraic solution is shown, as it would appeal more to a high school student who may not have seen the trigonometric method.
I appreciate you working through all the steps so methodically. It kept me from getting lost. Also, thanks for calling out all the formulas and identities you used by their proper names - it helps me look them up becasue I need to go reference them again.
But he found the sine and cosine of angles n*2*π/5 in surd form. You're stuck with answers such as cos(72⁰) + i*sin(72⁰) and have to figure out how to go further.
yes @@oahuhawaii2141 I am not an advanced student. I was fascinated and enlightened by the clever substitution that revealed a 4th degree equation as two "nested" quadratics. Even more satisfying were the algebraic expressions in the respective real and imaginary parts for the sines of the various angles n*18° or n(pi/10). Clearly, algebraic expressions for the trig functions are encoded in the complex roots of specific polynomials generally. More elegant ways to calculate them probably exist, such as whatever algorithms likely programmed into calculators, but this blows my mind. I'm old, so my high school math texts contained appended trig and log tables, both rendered to 4 significant digits probably. I may have imagined that some monastary dwellers had produced these in the 16th century using prohibitively laborious methods. I pulled a shit ton of inspiration and knowledge from this vid.
@@oahuhawaii2141From most cases I've seen is that if you have a angle that does not have a exact value like 72° you don't have to spend extra time rewriting it.
And then there are four more complex roots - appearing as two pairs of conjugates ( symmetrically around the real axis ) - at +/- 72 and +/- 144 degrees ( ~ +/- 2PI/5 and +/- 4PI/5 in radians ) around the unit circle in the complex plane. + of course all 360 degrees ( 2PI) rotations of these roots.
But he found the sine and cosine of angles n*2*π/5 in surd form. You're stuck with answers such as cos(72⁰) + i*sin(72⁰) and have to figure out how to go further.
@@oahuhawaii2141 you can use trigonometric identities to find em , also considering a regular polygon with five sides(pentagon) whose circumcircle has radius one with its centre at origin will help .
Z^5 = cos theta +isin theta, using de moivres, z = cos theta/5 + isin theta/5 theta = 2*k*pi substitute k = 0,1,2,-1 into z to get the final four solutions aswell as z = 1
@@boringsupernova4836 it is. In north america it's common to drop the s from maths, and in the UK they say maths ... one of those "no wrong answer but some people want to sound pretentious" and feign superiority. :D I do it sometimes too.
This is exactly what makes the difference between students in these exams, if you can come up with a solution that can help you solve the problem much more quickly than the intuitive solution as shown in this video, you can then answer much more questions.
But he found the sine and cosine of angles n*2*π/5 in surd form. You're stuck with answers such as cos(72⁰) + i*sin(72⁰) and have to figure out how to go further.
can i just leave them in the trigonometric form of complex no.? x1=cos0+isin0=1 x2=cos72+isin72 x3=cos144+isin144 x4=cos-144+isin-144 x5=cos-72+isin-72
Very good you got one of the five solutions to the problem in 15 seconds. What took you so long? However apparently you did not notice that the problem presents an exponent of 5 which leads to a solution with 5 answers.
@@robert.eduard Not imaginary, complex. Complex numbers are pretty essential to a lot of practical applications, so being able to find complex roots to an equation is significant. "Imaginary" is an outdated term for complex numbers.
On the complex plane, draw a circle of radius 1. The points in the circle that make angles to the horizontal of 72°, 144°, 216°, 288° and 0° will be your solutions.
x1 = 1 ; x2, x3 = cos ( 2 * PI / 5 ) + / - i * sin ( 2 * PI / 5 ); x4, x5 = cos ( 4 * PI / 5 ) + / - i * sin (4 * PI / 5 ) - tthe primary values. + all 2 PI rotations of these roots. Where 2 * PI / 5 ~ 72 degrees, 5 * 72 degrees = 360 degrees.
But he found the sine and cosine of angles n*2*π/5 in surd form. You're stuck with answers such as cos(72⁰) + i*sin(72⁰) and have to figure out how to go further.
If you know polar coordinates, the solution would be more simple and beautiful. By knowing the only real solution (1), the complexes would be calculated just dividing 360 degrees by 5. So, the other four solutions are 1
Depending on the time allotted for this, I would agree that the trig and complex exponential version "answers" for the complex roots might not get you far at Cambridge - as a mere demonstration of rote learning. Another approach is to notice that the roots are all unimodular - that is: taking x=a+i*b, (a & b Real), a^2+b^2=1. Substituting this in the quartic equation for x, we know both the Real and Imaginary parts must vanish. The imaginary part is i*b*(4*a^3+3*a^2+a*(2-4*b^2)-b^2+1)=0. As b is nonzero for roots of interest (we know from the monotonicity of x^5 there aren't other real roots), we can ignore the overall factor of b, so substituting in b^2=1 - a^2 elsewhere, and extracting a common factor of a (joining the b since a is nonzero too) leads to a quadratic for a : 4*a^2+2*a-1=0, roots of which are -1/4 +Sqrt[5]/4, and -1/4 - Sqrt[5]/4, and the corresponding Imaginary parts can be straightforwardly calculated (from Sqrt[1 - a^2]). Whether this is "cleverer" than the "completing the square" approach presented might be a matter of taste - a sharper eye there versus using more knowledge of the complex roots? Another connection with the presented solution is that for a unimodular complex number x, x +1/x is twice the real part, which is why the solutions above for a are half the presenter's "t" roots, indeed could use this instead of solving the second quadratic where the complex numbers first arise in the presentation. Of course for completeness one might wonder about the Real part of the x-quartic: after substituting for b^2 one gets a quartic for a - with four real roots, the pair above and two more (+1/Sqrt[2[, -1/sqrt[2]) that don't make the Imaginary part vanish - must confess that took the edge off a little.
Note that if we set x =2π/5, we can use the fact that cos(4π/5) = cos(2π - 4π/5) = cos(6π/5) to get the relationship cos(2x) = cos(3x). We can then use the Pythagorean identities. Hence cos(2x) = 2cos^2(x) - 1 is equal to cos(3x) = 4cos^3(x) - 3cos(x). If we set c = cos(x), we now have 2c^2 - 1 = 4c^3 - 3c. Therefore 4c^3 - 2c^2 - 3c + 1 = 0. A factor is c=1 giving: (c - 1)(4c^2 + 2c -1) = 0. The c=1 is when x=0, which also satisfies cos(2x) = cos(3x), so we just need to solve the quadratic, giving c = (-2 ± √20)/8 = (-1 ± √5)/4. Since x is in the first quadrant, we can see that cos(2π/5) = (-1 +√5)/4) which is also the value for cos(8π/5). We can see that cos(4π/5) = cos(6π/5) = (-1 - √5)/2. Similarly for sin(2kπ/5).
Decades ago, my 9th grade teacher gave a bonus trigonometry problem to find sin(θ) in surd form, for θ = 18⁰ . I solved it at my desk for sin(θ), cos(θ), tan(θ), cot(θ), sec(θ), csc(θ) . Nobody else in class figured out how to do it. At home, I did the same for θ = n*18⁰ , n ∈ ℤ . The next day, I showed my teacher the table, and said I'll work on θ = n*3⁰ during the weekend. I used lots of scratch paper for those calculations. When I showed her my completed table, she asked me to join the math team. I did and she gave me a CRC math book. The first thing I did was look at its trig section, which I saw only had θ = n*15⁰ . I submitted a copy of my table to the publisher. I never got a response.
For this specific problem there is an easier way by decomposing the result in an angle and radius in the complex plane. Then computing that taking an exponent is taking an exponent of the radius an multiplying the angle (r exp(i theta))^n is r^n exp(i theta n). The radius is then 1 and the resulting angle need to be 0 modulo 2pi. This give us 2 pi k/n. With k from 0 to n-1. Set n to 5 for this specific problem.
What? x = 1^(1/5) = exp(2ni*pi/5), n = 0; 1; 2; 3; 4 because other integers give the same numbers. So x_1 = 1; x_2to5 = exp(2ni*pi/5) = cos(n*72°) + i*sin(n*72°), n=1; 2; 3; 4
The roots must be of unit length, so either positive angle which lands on one when raised to the fith power, or 0 angle which is the real root, - 1/5th 2pi =4/5th 2pi in terms of angle so only 5 roots all unit lenght complex numbers of the form cos(n 2pi/5)+ i*sin(n 2pi/5) n; 0, +-1,+-2. Thats doable in the head.
Simple. Draw a unit circle centered on the origin of the complex plane. Mark 5 points on the circle at 72° intervals starting on the real axis at x=1. What do I think about the answer? All that is needed is to know how to evaluate sine and cosine of 72°, 144°, 216°, and 288°.
Why you don't just do " x = e^( 2 * k * pi * i / 5) for k = 0, 1, 2, 3, 4 "? These are the 5 solutions on the circumference of radius one in the complex plane. If you want the algebric version use sine and cosine to calculate the real part and the complex part.
Me, too. I've seen this guy before, giving ridiculously complex solutions to some very simple problems. Any first day algebra student would say, "What minus 1 is zero? Okay, 1-1 is zero. So x^5 = 1. Well, 1 to any power is 1, so the answer is 1. Duh."
@@Astrobrant2 You are doing naïve math. Actually you are not doing math. The solution requires determining the 5 solutions to the equation. If you submitted this on a homework assignment you might get partial credit and definitely a note from the instructor that says, "See me about this".
@@Shri For someone with any math background, this is still extremely trivial when using polar coordinates. Took me about 0.5 seconds to see the pentagon represented by this equation. Or to unfold it as the Z5 cyclic group.
You can understand it by considering the phase of the complex numbers with the exponential representation. Solving this equation is equivalent to find the phases for which when it is multiplied by 5 you get the phase equal to 2pi (rad) because the phase of the complex number 1 is 0 or 2pi. So first trivial solution is x=1. Second solution is the complex number which phase equal to 2pi/5 because 2pi/5×5=2pi. Third solution is the complex number which phase is equal to 2×2pi/5 because 2×2pi/5×5=2×2pi => same complex number =1. And then the same explanation you get x=3×2pi/5 and x=4×2pi/5 which are the 5 only possible solutions because then if x=5×2pi/5 and x=6×2pi/5 it is already the first and second solutions. CQFD 😊 (without to solve any complex equations I found the complex solutions 🤭)
He takes 24 minutes to solve a problem that can be solved in 30 seconds if you do it the proper way using de Moivre theorem's, which every pre University student should be familiar with
Specialist Maths in the Victorian (Australia) curriculum includes teaching students how to do operations with complex numbers in both Cartesian and Polar form. De Moivre's is bread and butter here.
There's 5 complex solutions because of the fundamental theorem of algebra. The real solution is obviously x=1. The complex solutions are all the rotations of n/5 of the unit circle in the complex plane. So e^(2n/5πi) with n equal to 1, 2, 3, 4 and 5. Notice that when n=5 this reduces to 1. Funnily enough we could let n be any integer and it would reduce to the same answer as n mod 5.
@@Anu_here_148Yes, but there are actually 4 more roots, that are all complex numbers. If you rotate the complex number ("point") "1 + 0*i " on the unit circle 72 degrees or 2 * PI / 5 radians , you will end up in the complex number "cos ( 2 * PI / 5 ) + i * sin ( 2 PI / 5 )", where i is the imaginary unit. This is pr. definition e^( i *2 * PI/5 ), since the "length" or modulus rather is 1 ( we are on the unit circle in the complex plane ;-) ). Raising this complex number to the fifth power then gives us ( rotating it to the argument ( angle ) that is 5 times larger ): z^5 = ( e^( i *2*PI/ 5 ))^5 = e^( i * 2*PI /5 * 5 (!!!!!) ) = e^( i * 2PI ) = cos(2*PI) + i *sin( 2*PI) = 1 + 0*i = 1 And we are back to 1 ;-) This also applies to the symmetric complex roots at - 72 degrees, and +/- 144 degrees on the unit circle in the complex plane - and to all full 360 degrees ( or 2*PI ) rotations of these 4 primary roots.
@@Bjowolf2, yeah and aren't we allowed to consider that the real reason for more than one root x = 1 is , that the equation is a fifth grade one . so there should be five roots as a full solution .
@@keescanalfp5143 Yes, precisely - a n'th order polynomium always has n roots ( complex or real, including multiple roots ), and if the coefficients of the polynomium are all real (as in this case!), then any complex roots will always appear as complex conjugated pairs ( symmetrically around the real axis in the complex plane ) 😊
a trick to this question is: draw a circle (radius=1) in the argand-gauss plane and inscribe a pentagon in it, each one of the vertices will be one of the solutions
I guess in other countries, not only Croatia where i am from, highschoolers are tought about the de Moivre formula (or atleast Eulers formula) , my God! Then it is trivial.
1, i^4/5, i^8/5, i^12/5, i^16/5 Nailed it. Joking aside, there's 3 factors that determine how I should answer: - What major am I applying for? - What is the question? - What situations will my answer be applied to?
Similarly, x^7 - 1 = 0 can be solved (you divide by x^3 instead of x^2) , but you will get a 3rd degree equation for t (beginning with x^3 + 1/x^3 = t3 - 3t) like t^3 + t^2 - 2t -1 = 0, which is difficult to solve but makeable! Of course, finding the solution by using the Euler formula is more elegant, but when I was in the 10th class Euler was not teached, so we had to workout everything algebraically! 🙂
I personally prefer the visual approach to this problem. First transform to x^5 = 1. There is a way to look at complex numbers as the vectors from 0 0 to (complex part, imaginary part) Then because multiplying something in the complex plane means multiplying the "lenght" of the number, and adding the "angles" of the number to gether First i know the len of all solution vectors is 1 Then i i know that the angle of all solution vectors is 0° -> 5 × n = 0° => the 5 solutions have the angle 0/5×360 1/5×360 2/5×360 3/5×360 4/5×360 And by knowing the lenght and angel of all solution vectors i can calculate theire real part with cos, and imaginary part with sinus
The function has only one real root x = 1. For complex roots there was some theorem (I'm to old to remember it :D ) I think the guys in Cambridge would want the person to know the theorem and use it straight away instead of doing algebra. The test should check whether the person knows something more than algebra.
They could use abstract algebra to solve this, and say that the solution is the numbers 0,1,2,3 and 4 in the cyclic Z5 group, just represented on a homomorphic representation of the same abstract group on the complex unit circle :) That MIGHT have scored full points, especially if the homomorphism was accompanied by an illustration.
As someone who went to MIT and is a contrarian both solution are valid. Actually any solution you can properly present is valid for solving the problem and can't be downgraded. This is generally true for all university exams and test makers generally make so you don't have enough able time to try algebraic solutions instead of theorems with easier solutions. In this case the theorem you would use is the "De Moivres". I would do algebraic solutions anyway because I am really fast at mental math and the teachers would always complain =D I was kind of able to get away because people still need enough time to try different theorems until see witch one solves the problem with an easy solution but you can just brute force. It always work.
But he found the sine and cosine of angles n*2*π/5 in surd form. You're stuck with answers such as cos(72⁰) + i*sin(72⁰) and have to figure out how to go further.
Boring, boring, boring... No higher mathematics. The five roots are obvious, no need for lengthy derivation. This problem is good for a "short" at best.
You are obsessed with leaving comments like this on every video of this guy’s channel. If it bores you so much, watch something else! It is THAT easy. Get a hobby.
1. x = 1 2. x = e ^ (i * (2pi)/5) 3. x = e ^ (i * (4pi)/5) 4. x = e ^ (i * (6pi)/5) 5. x = e ^ (i * (8pi)/5) These can also be expressed in terms of cosine and sine: 1. x = 1 2. x = cos((2pi)/5) + i * sin((2pi)/5) 3. x = cos((4pi)/5) + i * sin((4pi)/5) 4. x = cos((6pi)/5) + i * sin((6pi)/5) 5. x = cos((8pi)/5) + i * sin((8pi)/5)
Why just don't you use complex numbers and solve fast. Entrance examiner will give you zero for this step they want you to solve it using complex number which is way faster.
Could a person not just see that it's got a complex root, and just divide 360 into 5 equal parts? Like, single root would be 360 degrees from a circle split into (single root minus 1 because you need a starting point), so it's a full circle, you just remain on the x axis at "1". Two roots would be 360 divided by (2 roots, minus 1for the starting point, so 1 split) 360/2 is 180, and if we have a look at that, that's at "1" and "-1". 3 would be 120, so 360, 120 and 240. We've got to use sin and cos, but still, 1, sin(120) + -cos(120)i and -sin(120) + -cos(120)i. 4 is easy, cos it aligns with the x axis and y axis, so 1, i, -1, -i. 5 would be 360/5, so, draw a circle, split it into 5 parts, they will be 72 degrees from each other, and put it through some trig.
To simply put it for those who do not fully understand the math they’re referring to is in this video is for exploring variants, not the solution. they are not asking for the answers to the question they are asking for the variants to the answer of the questions.
Complex number theory is in college for us. I assume we go over things that you probably don't in high school and vice versa. I know that some high schools go over complex number theory but not mathematical induction and structural induction (to my surprise).
If this is 1 question for 1 exam. Do they really think we’re spending 25 minutes to solve 1 exercise? X = 1 and that’s that. Next question, moving on. They usually only give out 2 or 3 hours for an entrance level exam. There’s always like 100 questions in these types of exams
If you leave the question at X=1 , you're not getting any marks , cuz the answer is not yet completed. If you haven't learned about complex numbers, it doesn't mean they're non existent, they must be taken into account too
ok but why not just use the polar form and Eulers identity x^5 - 1 = 0 x^5 = 1 x^5 = e^i(0+2kπ ) x = (e^i(0+2kπ))^(1/5) x = e^i(2kπ/5) k=0 ; x = 1 k=1 ; x = e^i(2π/5) k=2 ; x = e^i(4π/5) k=-1 ; x = e^i(-2π/5) k=-2 ; x = e^i(-4π/5)
We can do simple algebraic manipulation: Add 1 to both sides and we end up with: x^5 = 1. What multiplied by itself 5 times is equal to 1? Since the power itself is ODD it cannot be -1 since -1 * -1 * -1 * -1 * -1 = -1 AND -1 Does Not Equal 1. It must be 1 since 1^5 = 1. This is the only answer within the Real Numbers. If we move to the Complex plane and we consider modulus arithmetic and the possibility of All Roots, then we can use a few various techniques either through vector notation, simple rotations around the unit circle, etc. and from there we can obtain the other 4 roots of unity that only exist in the complex plane. For example: we know that sqrt(-1) is the imaginary unit i. We know that i^2 = -1. Since i^2 = -1 then i^4 = 1 since -1 * -1 = 1. Thus, i^4 is also a root. In other words, 1^5 and i^4 evaluate to the same thing as they are equivalent. The rest is up to you to figure out.
x^5 -1 = (x-1)(x^4 + x^3 + x^2 + x + 1), since 5 is prime and its only divisors are 1 and 5, x^4 + x^3 + x^2 + x + 1 is the 5th cyclotomic polynomial, and thus its roots are the primitive 5th roots of one on the unit circle in the complex plane. 360/5 = 72, so we have the roots: cos 72 + i sin 72 (the trig arguments are in degrees, here) cos 144 + i sin 144 cos 216 + i sin 216 cos 288 + i sin 288 Note that the trivial solution x=1 is *not* a primitive root, that is, it does not generate the cyclic group of order 5 of the solutions.
But he found the sine and cosine of angles n*2*π/5 in surd form. You're stuck with answers such as cos(72⁰) + i*sin(72⁰) and have to figure out how to go further.
What is happening in the world guys for an easy question he did that long 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 Solution is x^5 -1 = 0 x^5 = +1 As we know that 1^n = 1 Therefore x^5 = 1^5 Cancellation on both side Therefore x = 1 😊😊😊😊😊
X=1 is also correct but not complete, there are other numbers too which satisfy the equation,hence the equation has mose roots. Remember an equation on x of degree n will have n different solutions
Getting all solutions in complex space is easy by simple visualization. I only keep struggling to find all in various higher dimensional spaces. 'complex' numbers are not the only possible extension of real numbers. The task should always include what context the searched solution is asked to be in.
No need to be sorry! You're correct that 0.2 x 5 = 1, but multiplication isn't the same as raised powers/exponents. The tiny 5 exponent means that 0.2 would be multiplied by itself 5 times. And decimals multipled by decimals will get smaller rather than bigger, so 0.2^5 is gonna be reeeeeal small XP
When there are multiple +-, it's extremely useful to tag them. That way one can have a single expression for all 4 of the solutions, and one doesn't have to futilely repeat the calculation and the scribbling. So one might have +- for the first case, and then +-* for the second case, or one might choose e.g. +-_1 & +-_2. Or whatever. I have never seen anyone do this notational trick, but it ought to be standard.
Why not just speedrun it with de Moivre's? For z^n=c,z=(nth root of |c|*cis((2kπ+Arg(c))/n)),k=1,2,...,n where z,c is an element of C, and n,k are an element of R. It never asked for Cartesian form vs polar so this would be a lot faster.
Couldnt you just use nth root theorum after converting 1 into cos(0) + isin(0) so x = cos(2kpi/5) + isin(2kpi/5) where k = 0, 1, 2, 3, and 4? The nth root theorum a lot faster i think.
if x to the fifth power minus 1 = zero, then x to the fifth power equals 1. x must equal 1 because 1 to the fifth power remains 1. so 1 minus 1 is zero..
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Oh you also want the complex solutions.
Ya it's simple
X⁵ - 1 = 0
X⁵ = 1
⁵√x⁵ = ⁵√1
x = 1
@@Zomsteve theres more to it than that
@@Zomsteve that's a solution.
What it isn't is ALL the solutions.
I mean, you have to find x, so you want all the solutions. If a equation have fifth grade that means that have 5 solutions.
In that case you can use Euler formula exp(2kPI) where k€{...,-1,0,1,...} - iterate through k from 0 to 4 and proof, that rest of ks will be the same due to periodical nature
The answer is either:
1. Don't go to Cambridge.
2. Never hire someone who went to Cambridge.
If you are running a kebab "restaurant" or a gas station, then yes: you do not need to have anything in common with any university 😀 to be 100% honest when I saw this video graphics I knew the answer within 3s, but I would never propose such a solution! Chapeau bas to everyone who knows how to solve it without looking into any math books!
@@thedarthragewhat the hell does chapeau bas mean talk like a normal person smartass
@@thedarthragewho cares it's useless anyways, also I'm willing to bet that a kebab restaurant owner makes more money than a maths professor.
@@ashtheflyingjew9520 it is not useless - we wouldn't be writing to each other if not this kind of people who are able to solve complex mathematical problems. Someone will take a joy from running a gas station other from solving an absurd mathematical problems :) Both are needed :)
@@thedarthrage you won't be making money from studying in cambridge you will spend the rest of your life paying student debt, so yeah college is useless. On the other hand everyone needs food to survive so running a kebab restaurant is more useful and profitable.
Solutions of x^n-1=0 : Consider the unit circle and the point with maximum x value. This is a solution, trivially. Now divide 360 degrees by n. Move along the circle counter clockwise and select points evyer (360/n) degrees. These are all solutions. To convert to complex numbers , z = (cos theta + i \sin theta) where theta = 360k/n for 0
de moirve theorem
But he literally finds the sine and cosine of those angles in surd form. For example, the 4 key values are:
sin(36⁰ ± 18⁰) = (√5 ± 1)/4
sin(54⁰ ± 18⁰) = √(10 ± 2*√5)/4
The solutions use these values in ± form.
(Typos forgiven.) Exactly, and even taking time to explain this a little more clearly this solution require much less time than the half hour devoted to the video. Besides which this is easily generalized for xⁿ = y and still takes essentially constant time to accomplish. God help me if I should have to spend a half an hour on a single entrance exam problem.
@@DaneBrookea
Indeed... The longest n-root ever seen. If I had to review this exam I would consider it as failed. What a waste
Why don't just x=1
Because an equation of the Nth degree has N solutions.
Its too easy for the Mathematics, they do not like Pragmatism. 😉
Because complex numbers exists
@@itzsoweezee9980😂😂
Because this is that 'new algebra'. Nothing is objective.
You see the answer here is; Strudel.
Don't ask.
In ten minutes, the answer will be cupcake.
If you really intend to get in to Cambridge, you probably ought to know that exp(2kπi) = 1 where k ∈ ℤ.
Then x^5 = exp(2kπi), giving the five solutions as x = exp(2kπi/5) where k = { 0 ... 4 }. The trivial solution is when k=0, giving x = 1.
The principal root is therefore exp(2πi/5) = cos(2π/5) + i.sin(2π/5), and the other three are cos(4π/5) + i.sin(4π/5), cos(6π/5) + i.sin(6π/5) and cos(8π/5) + i.sin(8π/5).
The time you save (about 23 minutes, apparently) will allow you to do several more trivial questions.
The solution on the video has a nice algebraic approach which is also useful and applicable to other algebra problems. Going for the complex exponential solution requires a whole background on the complex plane in order to render the final solution simple. Both solutions are useful in different moments of math instruction.
@@luisrocha26 The "nice" algebraic approach works in this case because we can solve quartic equations. Have a think about how you might extend the technique to the six roots of x^6 = 1 or the seven roots of x^7 = 1, etc. You may conclude that the complex exponential is a more general solution.
I find the particular solution in the video interesting because it allows us to introduce the complex method and then check the results against a purely algebraic method. But beyond that, I'd be hard pressed to recommend that students should consider it. YMMV.
@@RexxSchneider I'm not talking about being able to generalize the solution nor demonstrate more complex things; it's useful as as didactic exercise on algebra
But he found the sin and cos of those angles in surd form. You're stuck with answers such as cos(72⁰) + i*sin(72⁰) and have to figure out how to go further.
@@oahuhawaii2141 But 99% of the time, nobody needs to go further. The trig form is an exact form, just like the surd form.
We find that cos(2π/5) is generally just as useful as (√5 - 1)/4. To use it we're almost always going to use a numerical approximation, and either form will give the same approximation, about 0.309.
I concede that if there is a problem where the result has to be multiplied by (√5+1), you can get a simplification, but those cases must be vanishingly rare.
And finally, the question never specified that an answer in surd form was required. I assure you that when I took my Cambridge Scholarship exams in 1968, I never wasted time trying to answer questions I wasn't asked.
This comment section be like:
1. “Isn’t it just 1?”
2. “This video is stupid”
3. Actual solutions, that are a bit harder to understand for people who just stumble onto this video.
He wants the real and complex solutions
Didn’t say that
@@peterexner5979 who asked?
How is it called the identity?
x⁵ = 1 so 5 roots.
Angle between roots will be 360º / 5 = 72º.
So, answers are: (1, 0º), (1, 72º), (1, 144º), (1, 216º), (1, 288º).
EDIT: "Cheap way out?" Agreed. Why make things more difficult than they need to be?
EDIT2: "How did u guess they'd have the same distance?" They always do! Look up: "Multiplying Complex Numbers in Polar Form" You multiply the magnitudes but add the angles.
So, for a fifth root you need a set of angles that when multiplied by 5 will always end up with the same answer. So:
5 * 0º = 0º
5 * 72º = 360º or 0º
5 * 144º = 720º or 0º
5 * 216º = 1030º or 0º
5 * 288º = 1440º or 0º
You took the cheap way out and didn't calculate anything, these are radial coordinates and you didn't even convert to radians
@@autumn948I believe this is a genius method.
How did u guess they'd have the same distance?
@@erachmah all roots of unity are evenly spaced radially around the origin, and one of them is always 1
@@autumn948 Irrelevant. They are still correct and root is still a root, no matter the representation you use. Radial coordinates can exist in ANY form of radial system be it degrees radians or the gradian system.
I've posted something like this before. You want to go to your neighbor's house, which is 100 feet to your west. You could walk 100' and arrive at your destination. OR you could travel East the entire diameter of the earth minus that 100'. ALL TOO OFTEN, the solutions shown take the long way to get there.
What does the "traveling" metaphor" means in relationship to math? You have a very naïve understanding concerning what solving a math problem means. Your 100' solution will give only a 1/5 of a correct score.
@@harrisorourke6926 obviously, he could have walked in expanding circles around his house that follow the fibonacci sequence until there is an interception with the backwards traced fibonacci sequence radiating from the neighbour which he then walks backwards. so naive
It says people take the long way (this video) instead of the short cut (de Moivre's theorem in this case).
Except when you are in a polar Region, a bit south of the northpole where he w way eastwards May be the same considered he ist exactly on the opposite Side 180 degrees. Sadly o do Not know how far He must be south of the northpole. IT reminds me of a Joke when a carholic priett ate meat and someone reminded him it was friday, when eating meat IS forbidden for catholics. The priest walke some distance and remarked "Here IT IS still thursday!"
@@harrisorourke6926travell8ng means covering a distance.so IT IS math
Solutions (beyond x=1) are complex numbers :
e^(2k.Pi.i/5) with k being any integer.
Simple geometry in the complex plane.
True
how did you find
Anyone who knows complex numbers well can just write down all 5 solutions. But k only ranges from 0 to 4, any other integer duplicates one of those answers. (That is, if m = n (mod 5) then e^(2m𝜋i/5) = e^(2n𝜋i/5).)
@@agustincaiThese are the points that divide the circle into n equal parts
Yep, so solutions would be 1; 1e^j2π/5; 1e^j-2π/5; 1e^j4π/5; 1e^j-4π/5 with k = -2, -1, 0, 1, 2. Didn't even watched the video just jumped from front picture to comment section.
The thing I don't understand is why do you keep explaining basic math (such as "-x+5 = 5-x") and spend several minutes to rewrite a bunch of obvious things when you're explaining a college level problem?
It's like explaining how to build a rocket and then you spend half an hour talking about how the screwdriver works.
Is really funny for you to say that, because I don't know why this appeared in my feed, I was literally just watching a Minecraft video😂. All of a sudden I was here, watched half video and didn't understand nothing jajaj (I'm in Uni, I'm cooked).
@@gabrielcalvo2623 bro how tf you don't understand this? this is literally high-school level mathematics
@@suryanshvarshney111 "high school" level and "college" level are really subjective as it really isn't one type of math is higher than the other. I've taken Linear Algebra and wasn't required to take one statistics class.
So saying this is grade 8th 12th or higher isn't a strong argument.
@@Marinealver i call bs, there clearly are levels to mathematics. You wouldn't go straight to learning Stochastic processes when you don't know shit about basic probability and statistics. And no shit you don't need stats for LA 🤦🏻♂️ two topics can lie on same level. So, no high-school level and college level isn't subjective. It literally implies that these topics were taught in high-school so you should know it🤦🏻♂️ imagine coping so hard that you try to say college level and high school level is subjective 😭🙏🏻
Not even college level they teach us these things in +1 in india
Cambridge exam questions are typically not difficult but there are too many of them in the paper to pass if you spend a lot of time on each. This is a good example, solve laboriously as in the video in 25 minutes and you may get the right answer but no time left to answer enough questions to pass. So the exam is actually testing your depth of understandingand ability use it to see the fast paths to solution. ( which is the euler relation shown by others here. 20 seconds, boom, done.)
Perhaps you are smarter than I, but I would have to disagree. Some of those questions really are just truly hard. This level of question isnt usually present.
British school is amazing. I didnt have euler equations in school oO..
Thank you for watching. A great question today x^5 - 1 = 0 (Finding all roots) Have a great day and take care! Wish you all the best in you life and career❤❤❤
It's great that you found sin(θ) and cos(θ) in surd form for θ = k*2*π/5 = k*72⁰ , k ∈ ℤ . Everyone knows the values when k = 0 , but few know them for k = ±1, ±2 . Most are stuck with answers such as cos(72⁰) ± i*sin(72⁰) and have to figure out how to go further. The 4 complex solutions use the following key values in ± form:
sin(36⁰ ± 18⁰) = (√5 ± 1)/4
sin(54⁰ ± 18⁰) = √(10 ± 2*√5)/4
Polar plot. Radius =1. Rotate the vector 2pi/5. Project each stopping point with an X and Yi coordinate. Four complex roots and X=1. Done
The idea is to provide the exact solution without recourse to the trigonometric forms. This also gives you a slick way to find sin(2Pi/5) and cos(2Pi/5)
@@paulbritt588 The trigonometric form is just as exact and usually more useful. The main utility of complex numbers is to describe rotation, and since this is also on the unit cicrle, it's even a subgroup of U(1) (under multiplication). In fact, this subgroup represents the same abstract group as Z5.
@@haakoflo I am aware of the complex solution and the ease with which it solves the problem. I think that the displayed algebraic solution is shown, as it would appeal more to a high school student who may not have seen the trigonometric method.
@@paulbritt588depends on the education system. In Australia we are taught roots of unity
I appreciate you working through all the steps so methodically. It kept me from getting lost. Also, thanks for calling out all the formulas and identities you used by their proper names - it helps me look them up becasue I need to go reference them again.
Intelligence is knowing the answer is -1/4-(5**1/2)/4-i*(5/8-(5**1/2)/8)**1/2
Wisdom is recognizing the answer is 1
Many students cannot follow this long process. Simply apply De Moivres complex roots theorem. Much shorter and precise. Thanks.
But he found the sine and cosine of angles n*2*π/5 in surd form. You're stuck with answers such as cos(72⁰) + i*sin(72⁰) and have to figure out how to go further.
yes @@oahuhawaii2141
I am not an advanced student. I was fascinated and enlightened by the clever substitution that revealed a 4th degree equation as two "nested" quadratics.
Even more satisfying were the algebraic expressions in the respective real and imaginary parts for the sines of the various angles n*18° or n(pi/10). Clearly, algebraic expressions for the trig functions are encoded in the complex roots of specific polynomials generally. More elegant ways to calculate them probably exist, such as whatever algorithms likely programmed into calculators, but this blows my mind.
I'm old, so my high school math texts contained appended trig and log tables, both rendered to 4 significant digits probably. I may have imagined that some monastary dwellers had produced these in the 16th century using prohibitively laborious methods.
I pulled a shit ton of inspiration and knowledge from this vid.
@@oahuhawaii2141 finding the value of sin 72 using trignomatic identities is taught in highschool
@@oahuhawaii2141From most cases I've seen is that if you have a angle that does not have a exact value like 72° you don't have to spend extra time rewriting it.
(X^5)-1=0 -> (x^5)=1 -> x=1
Yes! Straightforward and took 2 seconds. Now if it had been x^4 (even number exponent), then x = +1 and -1.
@@thomasharding1838 x⁴ - 1 = 0 has four solutions: x₁=+1, x₂=-1 , x₃=+i x₄=-i. Both equations are not limited to real solutions.
@@thomasharding1838 x^5=1 ; Gleichung: (x^5=1)=1 ; (x^5=-1)≠1
And then there are four more complex roots - appearing as two pairs of conjugates ( symmetrically around the real axis ) - at +/- 72 and +/- 144 degrees ( ~ +/- 2PI/5 and +/- 4PI/5 in radians ) around the unit circle in the complex plane.
+ of course all 360 degrees ( 2PI) rotations of these roots.
@@thomasharding1838 And you only forgot four more principal roots 😉
X=cos (2n*pi/5)+i*sin (2n*pi/5), with n=0, 1, 2, 3, and 4 for the principal values.
But he found the sine and cosine of angles n*2*π/5 in surd form. You're stuck with answers such as cos(72⁰) + i*sin(72⁰) and have to figure out how to go further.
@@oahuhawaii2141 you can use trigonometric identities to find em , also considering a regular polygon with five sides(pentagon) whose circumcircle has radius one with its centre at origin will help .
Z^5 = cos theta +isin theta, using de moivres, z = cos theta/5 + isin theta/5 theta = 2*k*pi substitute k = 0,1,2,-1 into z to get the final four solutions aswell as z = 1
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x^5 - 1 = 0
=> x^5 = 0 + 1
=> x^5 = 1
=> x^5 = 1^5
=> x = 1
Why dont we do like that?explain me, please
Because more power=more values this only takes into account 1 probability
Is ⁵√ to both sides not just, ^, it would be wrong if it wasn't 1 for example
@@7g_21_louisdanendra9 study about complex numbers
@@nanagupta4499 The solution of x=1 is not a "probability". It is a certainty. We aren't flipping coins when we do maths.
Of course, as an entrance into Cambridge, you would have to realise this is Mathematics, not “Math”.
Or maths.
What's the difference? I figured math is just shorthand for mathematics
@@boringsupernova4836it is, i figure they're just an obtuse brit
@@boringsupernova4836 it is. In north america it's common to drop the s from maths, and in the UK they say maths ... one of those "no wrong answer but some people want to sound pretentious" and feign superiority. :D I do it sometimes too.
x^5=1=exp(i2πn)
hence
x=exp(i2πn/5) and using exp(iθ)=cis(θ)=cosθ+isinθ, for n=0..4
we have 5 solutions as required
This is exactly what makes the difference between students in these exams, if you can come up with a solution that can help you solve the problem much more quickly than the intuitive solution as shown in this video, you can then answer much more questions.
But he found the sine and cosine of angles n*2*π/5 in surd form. You're stuck with answers such as cos(72⁰) + i*sin(72⁰) and have to figure out how to go further.
@@oahuhawaii2141 Why are you copy-pasting the same comment over and over again?
can i just leave them in the trigonometric form of complex no.?
x1=cos0+isin0=1
x2=cos72+isin72
x3=cos144+isin144
x4=cos-144+isin-144
x5=cos-72+isin-72
I would used radians rather than degrees, but your answer is good enough.
If you can solve it in 24 minutes, why should you spend 15 seconds?
Very good you got one of the five solutions to the problem in 15 seconds. What took you so long? However apparently you did not notice that the problem presents an exponent of 5 which leads to a solution with 5 answers.
@@harrisorourke6926sry mate, he meant all 5 solutions in 15 seconds, which is pretty easy to do considering 1 equals 1.e^j(0+2kπ)
@@harrisorourke6926 imaginary solutions, hence "i".
@@robert.eduard Not imaginary, complex. Complex numbers are pretty essential to a lot of practical applications, so being able to find complex roots to an equation is significant. "Imaginary" is an outdated term for complex numbers.
@@ToasterPizzaFun “i” is still called an imaginary unit, but if it has real life applications, then it’s great. I didn’t know that, I’ll look into it.
On the complex plane, draw a circle of radius 1. The points in the circle that make angles to the horizontal of 72°, 144°, 216°, 288° and 0° will be your solutions.
x1 = 1 ; x2, x3 = cos ( 2 * PI / 5 ) + / - i * sin ( 2 * PI / 5 ); x4, x5 = cos ( 4 * PI / 5 ) + / - i * sin (4 * PI / 5 ) - tthe primary values. + all 2 PI rotations of these roots.
Where 2 * PI / 5 ~ 72 degrees, 5 * 72 degrees = 360 degrees.
But he found the sine and cosine of angles n*2*π/5 in surd form. You're stuck with answers such as cos(72⁰) + i*sin(72⁰) and have to figure out how to go further.
@@oahuhawaii2141 True, but I didn't bother calculating them or looking them up - I just wanted to illustrate the concept. 😂
If you know polar coordinates, the solution would be more simple and beautiful. By knowing the only real solution (1), the complexes would be calculated just dividing 360 degrees by 5. So, the other four solutions are 1
Depending on the time allotted for this, I would agree that the trig and complex exponential version "answers" for the complex roots might not get you far at Cambridge - as a mere demonstration of rote learning. Another approach is to notice that the roots are all unimodular - that is: taking x=a+i*b, (a & b Real), a^2+b^2=1. Substituting this in the quartic equation for x, we know both the Real and Imaginary parts must vanish. The imaginary part is i*b*(4*a^3+3*a^2+a*(2-4*b^2)-b^2+1)=0. As b is nonzero for roots of interest (we know from the monotonicity of x^5 there aren't other real roots), we can ignore the overall factor of b, so substituting in b^2=1 - a^2 elsewhere, and extracting a common factor of a (joining the b since a is nonzero too) leads to a quadratic for a : 4*a^2+2*a-1=0, roots of which are -1/4 +Sqrt[5]/4, and -1/4 - Sqrt[5]/4, and the corresponding Imaginary parts can be straightforwardly calculated (from Sqrt[1 - a^2]). Whether this is "cleverer" than the "completing the square" approach presented might be a matter of taste - a sharper eye there versus using more knowledge of the complex roots? Another connection with the presented solution is that for a unimodular complex number x, x +1/x is twice the real part, which is why the solutions above for a are half the presenter's "t" roots, indeed could use this instead of solving the second quadratic where the complex numbers first arise in the presentation. Of course for completeness one might wonder about the Real part of the x-quartic: after substituting for b^2 one gets a quartic for a - with four real roots, the pair above and two more (+1/Sqrt[2[, -1/sqrt[2]) that don't make the Imaginary part vanish - must confess that took the edge off a little.
Note that if we set x =2π/5, we can use the fact that cos(4π/5) = cos(2π - 4π/5) = cos(6π/5) to get the relationship cos(2x) = cos(3x). We can then use the Pythagorean identities.
Hence cos(2x) = 2cos^2(x) - 1 is equal to cos(3x) = 4cos^3(x) - 3cos(x). If we set c = cos(x), we now have 2c^2 - 1 = 4c^3 - 3c. Therefore 4c^3 - 2c^2 - 3c + 1 = 0. A factor is c=1 giving:
(c - 1)(4c^2 + 2c -1) = 0. The c=1 is when x=0, which also satisfies cos(2x) = cos(3x), so we just need to solve the quadratic, giving c = (-2 ± √20)/8 = (-1 ± √5)/4. Since x is in the first quadrant, we can see that cos(2π/5) = (-1 +√5)/4) which is also the value for cos(8π/5). We can see that cos(4π/5) = cos(6π/5) = (-1 - √5)/2. Similarly for sin(2kπ/5).
Decades ago, my 9th grade teacher gave a bonus trigonometry problem to find sin(θ) in surd form, for θ = 18⁰ . I solved it at my desk for sin(θ), cos(θ), tan(θ), cot(θ), sec(θ), csc(θ) . Nobody else in class figured out how to do it. At home, I did the same for θ = n*18⁰ , n ∈ ℤ . The next day, I showed my teacher the table, and said I'll work on θ = n*3⁰ during the weekend. I used lots of scratch paper for those calculations. When I showed her my completed table, she asked me to join the math team. I did and she gave me a CRC math book. The first thing I did was look at its trig section, which I saw only had θ = n*15⁰ . I submitted a copy of my table to the publisher. I never got a response.
For this specific problem there is an easier way by decomposing the result in an angle and radius in the complex plane. Then computing that taking an exponent is taking an exponent of the radius an multiplying the angle (r exp(i theta))^n is r^n exp(i theta n). The radius is then 1 and the resulting angle need to be 0 modulo 2pi. This give us 2 pi k/n. With k from 0 to n-1. Set n to 5 for this specific problem.
What? x = 1^(1/5) = exp(2ni*pi/5), n = 0; 1; 2; 3; 4 because other integers give the same numbers. So x_1 = 1; x_2to5 = exp(2ni*pi/5) = cos(n*72°) + i*sin(n*72°), n=1; 2; 3; 4
I've tried the same, but then, I remembered that I don't know the trigonometric functions of 72º
@@JoseFernandes-js7ep ... No big deal, u could (better still) leave ur 'x - values' in exponential form.
The roots must be of unit length, so either positive angle which lands on one when raised to the fith power, or 0 angle which is the real root, - 1/5th 2pi =4/5th 2pi in terms of angle so only 5 roots all unit lenght complex numbers of the form cos(n 2pi/5)+ i*sin(n 2pi/5)
n; 0, +-1,+-2. Thats doable in the head.
Simple. Draw a unit circle centered on the origin of the complex plane. Mark 5 points on the circle at 72° intervals starting on the real axis at x=1.
What do I think about the answer? All that is needed is to know how to evaluate sine and cosine of 72°, 144°, 216°, and 288°.
He does the evaluation in the video. It isn't simple.
Why you don't just do " x = e^( 2 * k * pi * i / 5) for k = 0, 1, 2, 3, 4 "? These are the 5 solutions on the circumference of radius one in the complex plane.
If you want the algebric version use sine and cosine to calculate the real part and the complex part.
In my head in under 5 seconds.
Me, too. I've seen this guy before, giving ridiculously complex solutions to some very simple problems. Any first day algebra student would say, "What minus 1 is zero? Okay, 1-1 is zero. So x^5 = 1. Well, 1 to any power is 1, so the answer is 1. Duh."
@@Astrobrant2 You are doing naïve math. Actually you are not doing math. The solution requires determining the 5 solutions to the equation. If you submitted this on a homework assignment you might get partial credit and definitely a note from the instructor that says, "See me about this".
@@Astrobrant2 the question is to find ALL ROOTS which includes finding complex numbers. It is not your naive math problem
@@Shri For someone with any math background, this is still extremely trivial when using polar coordinates. Took me about 0.5 seconds to see the pentagon represented by this equation. Or to unfold it as the Z5 cyclic group.
My first thought was: Am I so stupid and forgot the basics of complex numbers? Why 20 minutes, this is not a trivial problem?
You can understand it by considering the phase of the complex numbers with the exponential representation. Solving this equation is equivalent to find the phases for which when it is multiplied by 5 you get the phase equal to 2pi (rad) because the phase of the complex number 1 is 0 or 2pi. So first trivial solution is x=1. Second solution is the complex number which phase equal to 2pi/5 because 2pi/5×5=2pi. Third solution is the complex number which phase is equal to 2×2pi/5 because 2×2pi/5×5=2×2pi => same complex number =1.
And then the same explanation you get x=3×2pi/5 and x=4×2pi/5 which are the 5 only possible solutions because then if x=5×2pi/5 and x=6×2pi/5 it is already the first and second solutions. CQFD 😊 (without to solve any complex equations I found the complex solutions 🤭)
this video is actually good i have no idea why people feel the need to be so upset in the comments.
He takes 24 minutes to solve a problem that can be solved in 30 seconds if you do it the proper way using de Moivre theorem's, which every pre University student should be familiar with
@@julianbrown7976in which highschool do people learn about it? And im also pretty sure non stem uni students do not need it
Specialist Maths in the Victorian (Australia) curriculum includes teaching students how to do operations with complex numbers in both Cartesian and Polar form. De Moivre's is bread and butter here.
There's 5 complex solutions because of the fundamental theorem of algebra. The real solution is obviously x=1. The complex solutions are all the rotations of n/5 of the unit circle in the complex plane. So e^(2n/5πi) with n equal to 1, 2, 3, 4 and 5. Notice that when n=5 this reduces to 1. Funnily enough we could let n be any integer and it would reduce to the same answer as n mod 5.
Isnt the x just 1?
Exactly!!! That's what I'm thinking
@@Anu_here_148Yes, but there are actually 4 more roots, that are all complex numbers.
If you rotate the complex number ("point") "1 + 0*i " on the unit circle 72 degrees or 2 * PI / 5 radians , you will end up in the complex number "cos ( 2 * PI / 5 ) + i * sin ( 2 PI / 5 )", where i is the imaginary unit.
This is pr. definition e^( i *2 * PI/5 ), since the "length" or modulus rather is 1 ( we are on the unit circle in the complex plane ;-) ).
Raising this complex number to the fifth power then gives us ( rotating it to the argument ( angle ) that is 5 times larger ):
z^5 = ( e^( i *2*PI/ 5 ))^5 = e^( i * 2*PI /5 * 5 (!!!!!) ) = e^( i * 2PI ) =
cos(2*PI) + i *sin( 2*PI) = 1 + 0*i = 1
And we are back to 1 ;-)
This also applies to the symmetric complex roots at - 72 degrees, and +/- 144 degrees on the unit circle in the complex plane - and to all full 360 degrees ( or 2*PI ) rotations of these 4 primary roots.
@@Bjowolf2,
yeah and aren't we allowed to consider that the real reason for more than one root
x = 1
is , that the equation is a fifth grade one .
so there should be five roots as a full solution .
@@keescanalfp5143 Yes, precisely - a n'th order polynomium always has n roots ( complex or real, including multiple roots ), and if the coefficients of the polynomium are all real (as in this case!), then any complex roots will always appear as complex conjugated pairs ( symmetrically around the real axis in the complex plane ) 😊
@@Bjowolf2 Thank you 👍✨
a trick to this question is: draw a circle (radius=1) in the argand-gauss plane and inscribe a pentagon in it, each one of the vertices will be one of the solutions
I guess in other countries, not only Croatia where i am from, highschoolers are tought about the de Moivre formula (or atleast Eulers formula) , my God! Then it is trivial.
Clearly the goal is not to use de Moivre, but it should be stressed in the title indeed!
An explicit list of all solutions: X = 1, X = e^(2πi⁄5), X = e^(4πi⁄5), X = e^(6πi⁄5), X = e^(8πi⁄5)
*"x^n - 1 = 0" solution:*
*x = 1,w,w²,w³,w⁴,..., w^(n-1)*
*where w = e^i(2π/n)*
"Fast and quick video", the video length: 24:47!
1, i^4/5, i^8/5, i^12/5, i^16/5
Nailed it.
Joking aside, there's 3 factors that determine how I should answer:
- What major am I applying for?
- What is the question?
- What situations will my answer be applied to?
Similarly, x^7 - 1 = 0 can be solved (you divide by x^3 instead of x^2) , but you will get a 3rd degree equation for t (beginning with x^3 + 1/x^3 = t3 - 3t) like
t^3 + t^2 - 2t -1 = 0, which is difficult to solve but makeable! Of course, finding the solution by using the Euler formula is more elegant, but when I was in the 10th class Euler was not teached, so we had to workout everything algebraically! 🙂
I personally prefer the visual approach to this problem.
First transform to x^5 = 1.
There is a way to look at complex numbers as the vectors from 0 0 to (complex part, imaginary part)
Then because multiplying something in the complex plane means multiplying the "lenght" of the number, and adding the "angles" of the number to gether
First i know the len of all solution vectors is 1
Then i i know that the angle of all solution vectors is 0°
-> 5 × n = 0°
=> the 5 solutions have the angle
0/5×360
1/5×360
2/5×360
3/5×360
4/5×360
And by knowing the lenght and angel of all solution vectors i can calculate theire real part with cos, and imaginary part with sinus
The function has only one real root x = 1. For complex roots there was some theorem (I'm to old to remember it :D )
I think the guys in Cambridge would want the person to know the theorem and use it straight away instead of doing algebra.
The test should check whether the person knows something more than algebra.
Examinators usually look for a mix of knowledge and competences, so no, not necessarily
They could use abstract algebra to solve this, and say that the solution is the numbers 0,1,2,3 and 4 in the cyclic Z5 group, just represented on a homomorphic representation of the same abstract group on the complex unit circle :) That MIGHT have scored full points, especially if the homomorphism was accompanied by an illustration.
As someone who went to MIT and is a contrarian both solution are valid. Actually any solution you can properly present is valid for solving the problem and can't be downgraded. This is generally true for all university exams and test makers generally make so you don't have enough able time to try algebraic solutions instead of theorems with easier solutions. In this case the theorem you would use is the "De Moivres". I would do algebraic solutions anyway because I am really fast at mental math and the teachers would always complain =D I was kind of able to get away because people still need enough time to try different theorems until see witch one solves the problem with an easy solution but you can just brute force. It always work.
solutions:
x=1
x=cos(2pi/5)+isin(2pi/5)
x=cos(4pi/5)+isin(2pi/5)
x=cos(6pi/5)+isin(6pi/5)
x=cos(8pi/5)+isin(8pi/5)
X1=1
X2=cos(72°) + i*sin(72°)
X3=-cos(36°) + i*sin(36°)
X4=-cos(36°) - i*sin(36°)
X5=cos(72°) - i*sin(72°)
Please keep making these videos despite any negative comments. Really brings back memories of my past.
These kind of problems are trivial in polar coordinates.
Exact, j'ai réalisé en moins de 60 secondes.
But he found the sine and cosine of angles n*2*π/5 in surd form. You're stuck with answers such as cos(72⁰) + i*sin(72⁰) and have to figure out how to go further.
x=1,e^2πi/5 ,e^4πi/5 ,e^6πi/5 ,e^8πi/5
Boring, boring, boring... No higher mathematics. The five roots are obvious, no need for lengthy derivation. This problem is good for a "short" at best.
Completely agree.
Completly agree, can solve in 30 secondes with polar form, what i've done
@@kpdywo848 ... Yeah from nth root of unity approach when n = 5
So it's obviuosly not for you then, but it might make some math novices really curious ;-) - it did say "entry level", not "expert level".
You are obsessed with leaving comments like this on every video of this guy’s channel. If it bores you so much, watch something else! It is THAT easy. Get a hobby.
1. x = 1
2. x = e ^ (i * (2pi)/5)
3. x = e ^ (i * (4pi)/5)
4. x = e ^ (i * (6pi)/5)
5. x = e ^ (i * (8pi)/5)
These can also be expressed in terms of cosine and sine:
1. x = 1
2. x = cos((2pi)/5) + i * sin((2pi)/5)
3. x = cos((4pi)/5) + i * sin((4pi)/5)
4. x = cos((6pi)/5) + i * sin((6pi)/5)
5. x = cos((8pi)/5) + i * sin((8pi)/5)
Why just don't you use complex numbers and solve fast. Entrance examiner will give you zero for this step they want you to solve it using complex number which is way faster.
Could a person not just see that it's got a complex root, and just divide 360 into 5 equal parts?
Like, single root would be 360 degrees from a circle split into (single root minus 1 because you need a starting point), so it's a full circle, you just remain on the x axis at "1".
Two roots would be 360 divided by (2 roots, minus 1for the starting point, so 1 split) 360/2 is 180, and if we have a look at that, that's at "1" and "-1".
3 would be 120, so 360, 120 and 240. We've got to use sin and cos, but still, 1, sin(120) + -cos(120)i and -sin(120) + -cos(120)i.
4 is easy, cos it aligns with the x axis and y axis, so 1, i, -1, -i.
5 would be 360/5, so, draw a circle, split it into 5 parts, they will be 72 degrees from each other, and put it through some trig.
Oh, the graph was at the end. Well played.
To simply put it for those who do not fully understand the math they’re referring to is in this video is for exploring variants, not the solution. they are not asking for the answers to the question they are asking for the variants to the answer of the questions.
Exp(i 2/5 Pi n) for n from 0 to 4
X equals 1. I am aged 72
CHeater!
You missed the other 4 solutions, which happen to be complex numbers.
@@oahuhawaii2141 I am an orthopaedic surgeon, I deal with reality, not the fuzzy world of complex numbers
Actually the only thing you need tl know is basic complex algebra to obtain the five answers at once: exp(2piki/5) for k=0,1,2,3 4
For everyone saying "the answer is just x=1", did you ever go to highschool?? Jeez...
hiskool iz for loozers
sorry mate
my highschool taught me the answer is simply x=1, maybe it was college you were intending?
Complex number theory is in college for us. I assume we go over things that you probably don't in high school and vice versa. I know that some high schools go over complex number theory but not mathematical induction and structural induction (to my surprise).
Fascinating to see all the complex solutions for x
If this is 1 question for 1 exam. Do they really think we’re spending 25 minutes to solve 1 exercise? X = 1 and that’s that. Next question, moving on. They usually only give out 2 or 3 hours for an entrance level exam. There’s always like 100 questions in these types of exams
😂
There are more roots - 5 in all!
x can be a complex number.
If you leave the question at X=1 , you're not getting any marks , cuz the answer is not yet completed.
If you haven't learned about complex numbers, it doesn't mean they're non existent, they must be taken into account too
What numbef elevated at 5 th is 1? It is 1 . Simple . No need for equation .
Well, I guess I'm not going to Cambridge.
you are too intelligent?
I was a janitor at Cambridge and wrote the answer on a whiteboard in the hallway. Who says you can't get into Cambridge?
@@wes9627few years after got lost in mars
You could use the the n-th complex root formula. It takes 3 minutes…
I doubt if this is really a Cambridge entrance question...doesn't it too simple for anyone who have knowledge on complex number?😅
Well it's the 5th roots of unity which therefore means x = e^2pi.n.i/5.
1-1=0. Therefore X⁵=1. EIGHT GRADE PROBLEM.
What about complex answers?
You have to provide the other four roots, or show they collapse into fewer than four distinct roots.
There are 5 roots -- 1 real and 4 complex. Your answer is completely wrong, as you haven't even given a single root.
ok but why not just use the polar form and Eulers identity
x^5 - 1 = 0
x^5 = 1
x^5 = e^i(0+2kπ )
x = (e^i(0+2kπ))^(1/5)
x = e^i(2kπ/5)
k=0 ; x = 1
k=1 ; x = e^i(2π/5)
k=2 ; x = e^i(4π/5)
k=-1 ; x = e^i(-2π/5)
k=-2 ; x = e^i(-4π/5)
25minutes,eek!
bruh just move 1 to the right of equal sign:
x^5 - 1 = 0 x^5 = 1 5rt(x^5) = 5rt(1) x = 5rt(1)
Any root of 1 is just 1 so answer is 1.
You don't have to do all of this. I saw it immediately.
Did he get the right answer? If yes, why do you bother?
You saw all 5 roots immediately? Seriously?
x to the fifth = 1 if x = 1. 1 - 1 = 0
@Martha-jl6eu Did you watch, to learn how to derive the four complex roots algebraically?
@@Martha-jl6eu There are 4 complex roots. Everyone knows the real root is 1.
5 roots in the circle of radius 1 in the complex plane
This channel wasting my time more than my procrastination
We can do simple algebraic manipulation:
Add 1 to both sides and we end up with:
x^5 = 1.
What multiplied by itself 5 times is equal to 1?
Since the power itself is ODD it cannot be -1 since -1 * -1 * -1 * -1 * -1 = -1 AND -1 Does Not Equal 1.
It must be 1 since 1^5 = 1.
This is the only answer within the Real Numbers.
If we move to the Complex plane and we consider modulus arithmetic and the possibility of All Roots, then we can use a few various techniques either through vector notation, simple rotations around the unit circle, etc. and from there we can obtain the other 4 roots of unity that only exist in the complex plane.
For example: we know that sqrt(-1) is the imaginary unit i. We know that i^2 = -1. Since i^2 = -1 then i^4 = 1 since -1 * -1 = 1. Thus, i^4 is also a root. In other words, 1^5 and i^4 evaluate to the same thing as they are equivalent. The rest is up to you to figure out.
I thought it was obvious that x=1?
It was found early in the video, but the remaining 4 complex roots took the rest of the time to find.
x^5 -1 = (x-1)(x^4 + x^3 + x^2 + x + 1), since 5 is prime and its only divisors are 1 and 5, x^4 + x^3 + x^2 + x + 1 is the 5th cyclotomic polynomial, and thus its roots are the primitive 5th roots of one on the unit circle in the complex plane. 360/5 = 72, so we have the roots:
cos 72 + i sin 72 (the trig arguments are in degrees, here)
cos 144 + i sin 144
cos 216 + i sin 216
cos 288 + i sin 288
Note that the trivial solution x=1 is *not* a primitive root, that is, it does not generate the cyclic group of order 5 of the solutions.
But he found the sine and cosine of angles n*2*π/5 in surd form. You're stuck with answers such as cos(72⁰) + i*sin(72⁰) and have to figure out how to go further.
What is happening in the world guys for an easy question he did that long 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Solution is
x^5 -1 = 0
x^5 = +1
As we know that 1^n = 1
Therefore x^5 = 1^5
Cancellation on both side
Therefore x = 1 😊😊😊😊😊
X=1 is also correct but not complete, there are other numbers too which satisfy the equation,hence the equation has mose roots.
Remember an equation on x of degree n will have n different solutions
Yeah but given is simplest answer 😊😊😋
There are also 4 complex solutions, but there is a much easier way to find them using Euler's famous equation.
Erm 0:01
X⁵ = 1. Therefore, x is 1 since 1 x 1 x 1 x 1 x 1 is 1 and the same goes for division.
Yeah it's one of the 5 solutions, and if you did that at the official exam, expect 1/5 at best on your copy
X=1,1,1,1 and 1.
That was easy
I would love to see a geometrical answer to this question using the complex plane! Could you do a video on that way of obtaining the solution?
i^4 = 1, because (i^2) = -1 and -1^2 = 1, leaving 1-1=0. Pattern repeats to i^20
Getting all solutions in complex space is easy by simple visualization. I only keep struggling to find all in various higher dimensional spaces.
'complex' numbers are not the only possible extension of real numbers.
The task should always include what context the searched solution is asked to be in.
F(x)x^5 = 5x^4
F'(x)5x^4 = 20x^3
F"(x)20x^3 = 60x^2
F"'(x)60x^2 = 120x
120x = 1
x = 1/120
x = 8.33333*10^-3
We demostrate.
8.33333*10^-3*5*4*3*2 - 1 = 0
1 - 1 = 0
Isnt it js 0.2?
Cuz 0.2 x 5 is 1 and 1-1 is 0?
(IF I GOT IT WRONG IM SO SORRY)
No need to be sorry!
You're correct that 0.2 x 5 = 1, but multiplication isn't the same as raised powers/exponents. The tiny 5 exponent means that 0.2 would be multiplied by itself 5 times.
And decimals multipled by decimals will get smaller rather than bigger, so 0.2^5 is gonna be reeeeeal small XP
In 5:15 you could just add 1 and minus 1 so you get (x+1/x)² + (x+1/x) - 1
The amount of time they give you must be amazing if you have time to show all that work for an answer of 1
When there are multiple +-, it's extremely useful to tag them. That way one can have a single expression for all 4 of the solutions, and one doesn't have to futilely repeat the calculation and the scribbling. So one might have +- for the first case, and then +-* for the second case, or one might choose e.g. +-_1 & +-_2. Or whatever. I have never seen anyone do this notational trick, but it ought to be standard.
cos(2πki/5)+isin(2πki/5). Just simple logic operations
You didn't define k, so anyone can try k = √2 and say it fails.
Why not just speedrun it with de Moivre's?
For z^n=c,z=(nth root of |c|*cis((2kπ+Arg(c))/n)),k=1,2,...,n where z,c is an element of C, and n,k are an element of R. It never asked for Cartesian form vs polar so this would be a lot faster.
Cos(2xpi/5)+iSin(2xpi/5) for x = 1 to 5.
Couldnt you just use nth root theorum after converting 1 into cos(0) + isin(0) so x = cos(2kpi/5) + isin(2kpi/5) where k = 0, 1, 2, 3, and 4? The nth root theorum a lot faster i think.
if x to the fifth power minus 1 = zero, then x to the fifth power equals 1. x must equal 1 because 1 to the fifth power remains 1. so 1 minus 1 is zero..
fantastic 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
thank you for such a clear explanation)
Great! Now I know how to divide circle to five sectors with compass and ruler!
For x 2 and 3, Shouldn't b^2 be (1-√5)^2? There's a minus sign in x^1's coefficient.
If you use polar coordinates you can calculate it much easyer, 1 is e^(0j) and then you can calculate the rout. And yes, its j not i
Interesting - thank you.
But then you remember that 1^n=1 while n!=0, meaning, x=1